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TOTAL
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Which?
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>>56872671
zard
top middle
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>>56872671
Zard
Top Right
MINCCINO TIME LETS GOOOO
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>>56872671
neither
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So expansion 2 will just be Johtowank, right?
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>>56872671
toise
top middle
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anyone been experimenting with fossil recently? been seeing it crop into tourney play and such, curious.
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>>56872686
I assume so simply because there's no Johto mons in the game other than Noctowl as a popup when you get 180 cards
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How's your collection coming a long?
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>>56872684
At least it was a card I didn't have
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>>56872696
It's coming along pretty dogshit why do you ask
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>>56872670
Just realised you mean Pikachu
I thought you'd been seething over Raticates
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>>56872696
>4 Marowak ex
>4 fancy Golbat
justice for this anon
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>>56872718
I wish
I'd play a Raticate deck with nothing but Shellders and Cloysters, it would be a nice change of pace
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>>56872711
Because threads usually do better when people ask pointless questions near the beginning.
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I don't even get EXs in my wonder picks anymore to give me false hope I'm going to get full Wonder Stamina in 7 hours
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Why do I have such bad luck? I can't get the main Pokemon of my deck in my hand until the end of the match and I lose because of it. And it keeps fucking happening.
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Thoughts and prayers about this one?
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>you're going first!
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>>56872732
post deck
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I WANT my Meowth playmat and I want it NOW
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Is this a bug? Or is there some guaranteed rare pack after some pulls?
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>>56872659
fuck you misty i'm sick of your shit
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>>56872736
The Mewtwo deck from the last thread
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>>56872740
fuck you
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>>56872733
Looks solid
As far as Primape goes, go for it
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>>56872740
>all of them sleeping except for the hyperactive rat
kek
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>>56872733
>2x red card
there has got to be a better use than that
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>>56872740
Die
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what deck are you grinding the event with?
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>>56872740
Look at the fine print on the offering rates
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>>56872742
Maybe try using Meowth to draw more cards
I use a deck that's really close to that, and yeah if you get fucked by bad draws you get fucked by bad draws
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What's your favourite full art card? This one or Slowpoke is mine.
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>>56872754
I like the thundercloud zapdos and the pidgeot
too bad I have neither
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Could've used X Speed instead but given that every single mon takes 1 energy to swap out I thought it'd be better to roll the dice on a couple of red cards
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>>56872740
EXPLODE
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>>56872750
Tried Dragonite and Arbok Pidgeot and a couple other gimmicks like Steel or Misty Lapras
Gave up on funny weird decks and slaughtered my way to the top with Mewtwo
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>>56872747
>>56872756
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>>56872659
Love/Hate relationship with Misty?
https://strawpoll.com/2ayLQ1OV3n4
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>>56872668
You're misunderstanding my post.

The risk reward for TPC is not large enough to warrant the legal shithole they will be in if they get caught fucking with the odds. It's also something that would be painfully easy to prove with a code audit, so it's not even a battle they could realistically try fighting.

It's not "they won't break the law because it's le-bad!" They aren't going to break the law because the financial and repetitional damage are too large to warrant just following the law and sticking to the odds they are representing on the gacha table. I've seen this same cope from people for pretty much every single gacha game. It's not some huge conspiracy, you're just not as good at gauging small probabilities as you intuit. When you're a company as big as TPC, your lawyers simply won't let you make such a reckless move in the name of a little extra profit; the game will already make fuckloads from the whales regardless, potential reward for breaking the law just doesn't even warrant considering.

Feel free to stick to your conspiracy theory for the day the scandal breaks loose and TPC is forced to pay fines as well as suffer the repetitional damage that comes with lying to their fans, who also play other Pokemon games with gacha mechanics and will have to question the validity of those probability tables as well.

If they aren't following the probabilities listed on their tables, it means their lawyers were asleep, multiple people higher up in the org thought it'd be a good idea despite having a large target on their backs due to the size of TCP, DeNA agreed to breaking the law with them, and all for the benefit of tricking customers who would have already poured money down their throats if they just followed the published table.

Pokemon is the largest grossing IP in the world. They don't need to stoop to breaking the law and lying on gacha tables to make money. You're just angry that you can't intuit low probabilities. Most humans can't.
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>>56872743
>>56872746
>>56872749
>>56872751
>>56872758
Well there goes my luck for this year
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>>56872756
Honestly I think the X Speed's best use is low energy decks
Let's you keep your energy momentum which is super important
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>>56872767
I give you my blessing for another god pack, just to make them seethe even harder
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>opponent red cards me
>gives me everything i need
>concedes 2 turns later
thank you :)
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>>56872763
HATE.
LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE MISTY SINCE I BEGAN TO PLAY TCGP. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY PHONE'S COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR MISTY AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT.
FOR COINS.
HATE.
HATE.
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>>56872756
x speed is so stupidly overpowered it's incredible. you should always have 2, bar none.
>>56872750
my 2x mewtwo, 1x jynx, 1x gard evo line :^)
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>>56872778
Till the room STINKS
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>>56872764
So very naive.
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>>56872768
>as anon posts this I find myself in a situation where x speed would've let me win the game 3 turns earlier
I'll swap those red cards out.
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>>56872763
Intimate, passionate, soulmate love
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>>56872734
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>>56872750
All of my decks are partially incomplete, the closest I have to a full one is MewtwoGarde deck but I don't really like it, so I'm just going with a Dubwool/Wiggly/Weezing one. I don't really mind losing a lot.
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>>56872734
Just use Mewtwo + Gardevoir line too.
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>>56872763
Hatefuck until the sun rises.
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>>56872750
Still going with my Dragonite/Vaporeon/Jolteon homebrew, at least its main objective have been met - I've yet to get fucked by dual energy
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>last 3 dragonite decks have all conceded against me
jfl
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>have all the ex pokemon
>play almost exclusively non-ex decks
bros... am i doin it right
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>>56872807
Utterly based
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>>56872807
Based
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Arbok with Pidgeot is so fucking funny
>counters all the mew2gard faggots
>can control the entire tempo of the battle by forcing retreats or blocking them
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>going first
kill me
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>>56872814
Shame it gets so utterly fucked by the plague rat
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>>56872807
Only if you're play Weezing Arbok
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>opponent on turn 2 and 3 uses misty
>tails both time
>jap whaler
it's so funny
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>>56872817
What doesn't though? May as well play what's fun and accept every rat fight as a loss
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>your opponents draw into two Oaks and two Pokeballs
>meanwhile you draw into other trainer cards and lose from there
Oh, also all your stage 1 being tucked in the last 5 cards of the deck. I'd hate to play with streaks in mind
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Arbok Pidgeot deck is one ex card away from being consistent
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>>56872834
Explain. I have 2 each if Weezer, Arbok and Pidgeot and I want to be as annoying as possible to retards that paid money for this game.
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>>56872827
Basically this. No ranked, no consequences for consneeding. My opponent gets heads on Misty? Whatever, I'm out. My opponent plays Oak and Pokéball on the first turn while I open with bricks? Already onto the next game. Caring about meta right now is actually pointless.
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>Kingler denied Mewtwo EX setup
Fucking KNEEL
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Wigglytuff EX is Weezings best partner.
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>every other card in the game has to wait on energies to use their big unga blasta move thus being restricted by them
>"what if we make this one card get to rely on benched pokemon instead to power up so they can power it up entirely in one turn, removing the restriction every other card in the game has! Genius that won't be broken at all!"
Great minds over at the pokemon company
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>>56872827
True.
My last Arbok Pidgeot game was BRICKED and I'm lashing out
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>>56872846
>every other card
But that's wrong
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>>56872844
i really like how wigglytuff is essentially a "weighted" marowak ex in some ways with them losing one cointoss being 160 damage and 80 just being good enough in a good number of scenarios thanks to poison chip damage from weezing
really fun deck
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I just got my third full trainer card and it's another dude.
How are people pulling waifus? I feel like I have some waifu repellant active.
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lucario when
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>>56872863
Do not talk shit on Blaine.
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From 0 MewtwoEX to this.

I opened 2 pika packs later and got my first Full Art Gyarados in one and my first BlastoiseEX in the other
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>>56872871
lucky bastard
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>>56872740
>all shit 1* cards besides pikachu
I'm so sorry
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>>56872871
Explode, luckshitter
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How come exs aren't showing up in my Wonder Picks :(
I JUST WANT EXS I DON'T CARE ABOUT FULL ART SHITMON
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>seething bitch can't take his loss like a man, decides to run down the clock
>I proceed to do the same without attacking dragging the entire duel out
>finish him off when my deck is on the last card
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is it worth buying trainer cards with shop points? i have 300 and 1x of every ex, give or take. would rather just buy 2 blaines so i can save my pack hourglasses and rely on wonder picks to draw ex, then use blaine deck rapidash/ninetails for awhile
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>>56872817
Just need to outplay the opponent
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How can I make Melmetal work? I’m having a lot more trouble since they nerfed Sabrina
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too many fuckin misty decks in the event, i wish i had my own starmie ex
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>>56872881
I spent mine on sabrina and giovanni, so I would say yes
that or basics/stage 1s you are missing
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>pack point shop prices
good lord
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it was probably a bit disrespectful to use a potion on my arcanine before swinging for the win, wasn't it
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>>56872857
At least she's restricted by coin flip RNG
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>Opponent didn't get Gardevoir on time
>"Waiting for opponent to return"
Holy salt, kneel before your coin-tossing water CHADS
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>>56872897
using arcanine in the first place is probably disrespectful
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>>56872871
I'm convinced they're throwing out Mewtwo EXs to get even more fags spamming the deck. There's no way the majority of the playerbase doesn't have at least two of the card by now
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>>56872659
Why do they hate Gen 2 pokemon?
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>>56872902
Been playing since launch and I only have one.
But I pull from all 3 packs in a a cycle to fill out the dex.
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>>56872901
yeah fair
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>>56872909
They don't. See you in March when the next 3 packs are Tyranitar, Scizor, and Celebi.
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When are they introducing resistances?
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promo mankey deck is fuckin hilarious, just completely shits on thunder decks
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>>56872923
also why are so many people running two zapdos EX and then filling their deck with garbage instead of making pikachu EX easier to draw
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When new packs?
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>>56872880
>>finish him off when my deck is on the last card
Decking out doesn't end the game. You just continue with all your cards in your hand. You can get red carded. Deckout is not a wincon. Your max handsize is 10 - trying to draw with 10 cards in hand stops your draw with a notification to use cla card to draw next turn.
It's weird.
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>another game with shit draw luck while my opponent has a full pika bench on turn 2
oh yay i am having so much fun
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I think a game where it's normal and expected that somebody just concedes after 4-5 turns is not very good.
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>>56872943
>my opponent has a full pika bench on turn 2
Every rat match is like that, get used to it
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>>56872955
you make it sound like i'm not used to it, i'm just bitching

dont ever respond to my posts ever again. if you do, it's on sight frfr
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>>56872937
Well that's good to know.
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I've finally reached the bottom of the freebie barrel outside of Solo mode missions. Got a couple of good decks at least.
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Are people actually saving hourglasses?
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>>56872953
If I go first and my opponent pulls a Articuno I quit on the following turn
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holy fuck
I finally got my first sabrina, after like 35 charizard packs
I got it from a wonder trade
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>jap level 27 whaler with misty uno deck gets 3 misty heads on his first turn and summons another misty
this anon cursed me
>>56872965
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>>56872953
boy if you think 4-5 turns is bad never play YGO
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>I'm just not having fun anymore
Well, it's been a good time since release. Thanks pokemon tcg pocket. You're just too flawed of a game to play long-term. I hope you have a better time in the afterlife of deleted apps.
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>go against someone who throws out articuno EX right off the bat
>they use misty in their next two turns
>first flip for each of them is tails
>they immediately concede

i understand
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>>56872978
Get misted nerd
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>Went from 0 Venu EX to 2 thanks to dwo Wonder Picks in a row
Maybe my booster luck is shit but at least Wonder Picks don't fail me
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OSHIT
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>>56872985
you either live by the misty or you die by the misty
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>>56872929
Because that deck relies on a full board to be good
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>>56872785
Not naive, I'm in my mid 30's and work in the financial sector in a position that deals this sort of thing on the regular. I know more about shady underhanded deals, legal loopholes, and corruption than you probably will ever know.

There are situations that warrant what you're suggesting here. This isn't one of them. It's -EV to make this kind of move. They aren't JPMorgan manipulating the price of Gold because they make more money than they'll lose in fines and it actually comes off as a reputational positive for them that they're willing to do whatever it takes to make their shareholders more money in a ruthlessly PvP environment of commodity trading. Corruption that you're suggesting is rampant, but this is a scenario in which is just logistically makes no sense to even try fighting.
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i wish i was having more fun but i'm really not. the card collecting aspect is OK, but the pvp is just abysmal. fighting the same 2 cheese decks over and over and over and over (with a random mewtwo sprinkled in) ad nauseum is just boring. either the games are conceded within the first 3-4 turns or they all play out the exact same way. one in every 10 might be something fun, but christ is this grim.
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>>56872989
I jerked off to misty like 3 times in anger since the start of the week. Take my hydro pump attack. Skyla when.
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>took the Koffing/Muk pill with a side of Arbok
>just destroying Mewtwo decks and doing pretty well against everything else despite having no EX in my deck

though it does suck when I go against a fighting deck but they're relatively uncommon right now
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>>56872867
It's so weird that Lucario isn't in but Gardevoir and Greninja are, you'd think they want to add all the fan favorite mons at the start
Unless they had an obligation to only have gen 1 EXs and they really want Lucario do debue as the chase EX
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>>56873028
>you'd think they want to add all the fan favorite mons at the start
That's a good way to kill your game before the next set arrives.
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>>56872963
long term it's a good idea actually, to have a head start when new packs drops, but honestly I can't see myself playing this game for more than 1-2 months max, so I just burn everything the very moment I'm allowed to
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>>56872989
>caught a Starmie with my Arbok and killed it

stay the fuck STILL you little SHIT
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>>56872750
I keep switching decks every now and fbwn so I don't burn so I've been through like every deck I can make right now besides Marowak I actually despise that deck I think.

So I've done
>Dragonite Weez / Moth
>Gengar EX
>Mewtwo Gard
>Pidgeot Arbok
>Arbok Weezing
>Starmie Articuno
>Articuno + Lapras 17
>Ditto meme deck
In the final stretch and simply switching between mewtwo and Misty for fast wins; Mewtwo isn't particularly fast but he does make people concede
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>>56873045
I think some people forget you don't have to play this game 24/7 forever. It's totally fine to play it a lot for the first couple days, then drop back to just logging in for packs until there's another big release.
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>>56873062
>game so bad that after a few days you are checking it once a day for the next 2 months
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>>56873069
Yeah it's a casual phone game, not a lifestyle choice.
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>>56873058
what deck have you liked the most and why?
Also how the fuck can you build decks this fast? I can't get a single Dnite let alone multiple decks
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>>56873069
>zoom zooms STILL don't understand that the game was designed to be opened at most once or twice a day to open your packs and maybe play a couple of matches
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>>56873080
if your casual phone game is spending 1 minute on it a day for 2 months straight after opening weekend then you are not making the case you think you are right now lol.
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>everyone's building multiple viable decks
Meanwhile, me, an intellectual.
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>Use Sabrina
>Opponent brings Fossil out
>Oneshot fossil
>Get a point
>They bring EX Mewtwo back out
>Poison + tackle chips him so even when he kills my Weezing a fucking basic Pokemon attack is enough to finish him off
>Win

How does fossil counter Sabrina? Am I missing something or did my opponent fuck up? I always see fossils in pro deck builds without any fossil mons, just to "counter" Sabrina, but if I'm using Sabrina it's usually because I want to score an easy point/kill someone in backline. Is the "counter" just eating the loss?
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>>56872929
The rat needs benched pokemon to calculate damage, so they fill their bench with slop.
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>>56873028
It's not weird. I can 100% guarantee that they're holding out on a Lucario event to introduce him.

Right now they're opening up by catering to waifu lovers. Premium card sleeve + playmat + coin set? Gard. Gold shop set? Erika. They're going after waifu lovers first, they'll go after bara furries later. They have plenty of content to drip over time.
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>>56873094
fossils are basic mons that aren't forced to be in your starter hand
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How many years before trading gets added?
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Current deck.
>Anon, you have too many evos!
>Bro, your eggs???
>Sabrina, Erika, AND Koga

Don't care. It's fun. I can definitely streamline this to be more min-maxed but it's so much more satisfying to stall my pieces together. That being said, feel free to suggest any changes you'd make. I'd probably put Eggbois in if I had them, but my luck unfortunately has not permitted that. I was thinking of putting a second Koga in but already have a lot dedicated to my Weezing stall and I rarely need to do more than one switcharoo per game before I reach checkmate. Though it can definitely be extra frustrating and triggering for my opponent if I did. The best part of my deck is when I get that checkmate. Even if my win is still 5 turns away from me charging my Bulba up while Weezing soaks damage and Butterfree keeps him healthy, there are so many times where it becomes obvious there is nothing my opponent can do in those 5 or 6 turns to win.
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>>56873114
How does that counter Sabrina? And is the idea that you can stuff your deck with fossils as filler so that your single Articuno EX can be in your first hand 100% of the time but also have some backups to soak damage while it charges or something?
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What should I be using this on? Please assist.
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>>56873082
I like Dragonite and Weezing the most, I did one tourney and got top 32 with it only 1 misplay here or there and a couple brick hands.

What I like about that 'nite build is that you have both the fun of Weezing Loga shenanigans allowing for 200 IQ plays, and Draonite as a win button board nuke is super satisfying, plus you live Giovanni-less Mewtwos.
I usually have good success with it against all the top meta decks actually, Pikachu probably being the worst match up, then Mewtwo.
However it can be a little slow and repetitive doing it too much, as you are always just stalling until you click Draco.

Naturally Weezing and Arbok and Arbok and Pidgeot are all fun together too, and I would say it's because it's a pretty interactive deck where you're trying to find the path to poison and trap the right mon, and it naturally beats Mewtwo as well.

Gardevoir is one of m favorite mons so I'm happy to use her, and Mewtwo is kind of similar to Dragonite in that you have to strategically build up to your win button, though while Dragonite can be slower with more bricks Mewtwo I think can end up frailer and a bit finicky due to the lack of room to fit in stall mons.

For this event I like Mewtwo the best as it's a mix of fun and speed.
Misty is a complete meme but it's funny to dip my toes in.

Now for your second question:
I spammed Mewtwo packs only until I got 2 M2 EX, wondered a Gard and crafted the other.
I wondered a 2nd Dragonite.
Wondered both of my Mistys since I don't think I'm ever pulling Pika.
Also wondered 2 Starmies since that's the the most fun seeming water card that isn't cancer (only have 1 Staryu atm)
I simply pulled 2 Gengar EX 2 Pidgeot and 2 Articuno naturally
I am pulling zard now and aaving glasses, which allowed me to pull Sabrina after failing many wonders with her
I am around 93 packs deep at this point.
I bought all the cheap hourglasses in the shop and a good deal of the monthly ones
Pull hard on 1 set + strategic wonders + luck
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Should I do it for the second Gardevoir or a second Weezing? I'm still opening Mew2 packs for second copies of Articuno EX and Kirlia as well.
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>>56873150
pack timers
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>>56873121
5
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Feels great!
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>You are going first
>Opponent opens pokeball + prof oak
>Drops molt/char, ralts/m2, or pika and two other electric types
Nice game.
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>>56873170
Specifc ◇◇◇ are rarer than the immersives, and maybe specific EX due to EX having a smaller pool, but I would need to look at the rates again.

EX are the best value for Wonder at 3 cost and how expensive they are to craft (500 vs 150 for equally as hard if no harder ◇◇◇), but 3 diamonds are really hard to get you will probably have to either wonder or craft some of them, so unless you're running low on wonder glass you should Maybe top right it, otherwise save you wonder for EX
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>>56873150
That thing that costs 300
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Oh fuck me I thought this was the leak thread and that I missed some shit go down
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>>56873132
Why Porygon over another pokeball?
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>>56873164
Additionally I am using the free premium stuff otherwise completely F2P zero rerolling.

It's a pretty limited pool but deck building is still pretty fun and it's makes me excited to see how these cards will interact with future sets.

As for the deck I am most wanting to build now I would say a Grass deck but zero Venusaur zero Egg zero Erika is a long way to go.
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>>56872670
I've played about 25 games in the pvp event and have only run into 2 Pikachu decks. I've faced more than 15 Mewtwos, 3 or 4 Articuno decks, 1 Blaine, and few odd balls. My Venusaur deck walked right over them all. Maybe I've just been lucky, but none of them seem like a major pain in the ass so far. The Blaine deck destroyed me, but otherwise I haven't had any problems. I don't know what you're talking about.

Dragonites are fun to face. I've fought 3 of them and all 3 fell flat on their face, those poor guys.
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>>56873193
every time. I fucking deserve a good starting hand, damn it.
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>>56873208
Bro you just don't get the joy of knowing the card you are going to draw next but not actually getting to play it, only for you to end up sacking it to a Sabrina next turn.

I wonder if any future card can make Porygon not absolute trash.
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>>56872884
Just go up against Kabutops players. My friend and I chose random decks to play against each other and he completely dicked me.
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>>56873208
I used to have another Pokeball and often found myself drawing it when I have no more basic Pokemon left. Having Porygon scout my next card so I can make a more educated move has been more valuable to me.

So many times where I'm like
>Hmm, do I allocate this energy to my Ivysaur in hopes of getting Venusaur next turn, or put it on Weezing so it can do some more damage while I wait?

Porygon makes me rely less on the heart of the cards in my decision-making. Plus he makes for a good meatshield if I'm forced to sacrifice someone for a Sabrina, instead of them forcing out my Ivysaur or Metapod while they're still charging. He's not pivotal to my setup, definitely the part I'd replace if I had to, but in practice he actually works out very well. He isn't single use, you get to use him the entire game, so his value adds up over time since you can more reliably calculate your next moves. My deck is all about long term strategy so it makes sense having a scout.
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>>56873219
yeah its called porygon2 and porygonZ
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Oh cool I didn’t have any Sabrina cards yet
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>>56873219
>Porygon not absolute trash
Is he really trash? I think there's just no point to using him right now. If there were some kind of top deck mechanic, Porygon would be amazing. That, and with only 20 cards, you don't have to really worry about consistency as much. It's much easier to be consistent with fewer than 2 dozen cards.
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>Opponent tries getting Venusaur ready
>Been whittling down his Bulbasaur with a Blitzle from the start
>Evolves his Bulbasaur to Ivysaur as I evolve to Zebstrika
>Drop him down to 20 HP
>He gets a Butterfree online, Ivysaur is back to 40 HP
>Zebstrika KOs it with a Giovanni
Bro, your Erika? You just gonna let me horse around like that? Well, my victory counter went up, so clearly he chose to throw. Surely he didn't brick as a Venusaur ex player.
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>>56873132
2 pokeball is just an absolute must, not only does it tutor a basic, which at your low numbers will usually mean either a guaranteed koffing or guaranteed Caterpie/Bulba, but it thins the deck for future drawing just making everything else more consistent, and you aren't having it be a dead draw that often.

Besides that the main issue is consistency, having a Koga when you need a heal, not drawing Koga when you desperately need his stalling utility, etc.

Porygon isn't really contributing anything beside being a body, which if you want could be a fossil to help play around Sabrina without polluting your pokeball/starting hand basic pool.

I also wonder about dropping Sabrina for another Erika.
Xspeed is God and you don't really want to drop that.
Sabrina is also God but Venusaur is built around stalling and survival so one you are built up you shouldn't potentially be worried about gusting out a problem or needing to quickly nab some prizes?
Your lack of consistency mainly makes me worry about your early game but ai do quite enjoy what I am seeing here, butterfree looks cool but Caterpie line is Pikachu right?
My grass lacks right now anyway.
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Bros, I'm saving hourglasses, but it's rough. My only Exs are Articuno, double Marowak, and double Mewtwo. I don't have enough of any Type of Pokemon to make a dedicated team and have just been running mixed stuff. I don't even have Ralts or Kirlia yet, just doing my two free pulls a day.

Could I have some FCs to add?
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>>56873272
>I also wonder about dropping Sabrina for another Erika.

I've considered this as well, but I don't have another Erika. When I get one, I'll probably put her in there. Sabrina is mostly used defensively to force an X Sneed or energy if I somehow don't have Weezing and they can potentially take out my Koffing. But she's not as strong in my deck.

Consistency is definitely the weak point of my deck, but it's more consistent than relying on coin tosses from my experience. My issue with Pokeballs is with my luck I'd usually be starving for an evo rather than a basic. I used to run 2x balls but my luck just made it so almost every match I'd get it after I'd gotten all my basics on the field. The first one is great though. I may introduce it into my deck again, I just got maybe a bit too salty from getting it again and again within my last 5 cards when I no longer need it.
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>>56873232
Oh yeah
This set is making me so Kanto-brained I straight up forgot about those two little guys.
Porygon2 would be fun if he had a top deck mechanic so you used Porygon power, evolve, then benefit from Porygon2's top deck mechanic.

That way it's balanced around only doing it once, unless you have a second porygon on the bench and then th fun begins
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>Brick with Pika ex, only have Pika on field AND I go first, worst combo
>Play it out anyway
>He's playing Blastoise ex, starts with Staryu but gets Squirtle and Froakie benched.
>Draw based Pincurchin, bench him. Staryu goes down after hitting me for two turns.
>Swaps in a Froakie, evolves to Frogadier and plays Lapras ex
>I get Blitzle, Pika ex can now oneshot Frogadier
>He sends in Lapras, puts an energy on Lapras, ends turn
>I play Sabrina, he concedes
BRICKS ARE MADE FOR BUILDING, NOT QUITTING.
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>>56873288
I guess the only other thing I would say is that you also seem pretty susceptible to early game aggro or a well-timed Sabrina, since if even a single bulba or caterpies dies you know have either 2 dead cards, or an entire dead deck with no way to recover, which is one of the greater risks to only running 1 basic.

You must truly protect that 1 sole copy at all costs or its all over.
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I'm sick of this 3D "art", bros. Why did they have to make the rare card look so garbage compared to the weaker cards?
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A question to Pika players:

Why the pika packs?
Is there anything you like in them besides Pikachu deck?
What drew you to the Pika packs?
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Whats the optimal way to use pack hourglasses? Just use them or is there any upside to saving them up for the next set?
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>>56873290
OP here, I really love Porygon too so my bias is most likely influencing my decision to use him as well lol. I'd really love for 2 and Z to be added.

Pic related is the bootlogo for my Switch. The rest of the Switch is themed similarly.
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>1 win away from 45 wins
>Keep bricking
JUST LET ME GET MY DAMN RIBBON
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>>56873320
Misty sexo
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>>56873094
They are bench fillers that you can choose as Sabrina targets that will both protect your game winning cards and will be killed pretty quickly to put moment back in your favor without spending resources on retreating.
And if they don't kill it? Just discard it.

And like the other anon said you don't have to worry about them polluting either your opening hand nor your pokeball pool.

In the best case scenario too if you have only a single gamewinner mon, then you can simply discard any fossil still on the field to remove any and all Sabrina targets to deny the points late game.

They have a lot o versatility, but they aren't always useful
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What the fuck would they even use to shill Johto? It has fuck all for popular hard hitters. Do they just skip to Hoenn?
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Giovanni is a scam, right
When is 10 extra damage ever going to be worth more than infinite Water energy or forcing a switch
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If they ever add new Porygon upda... I mean, evolution, they should name it Porygoon, the final stage after PorygonZ downloaded all the porn from the internet
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>>56873354
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>>56873320
I didn't know specific cards were in specific packs
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>>56873101
I'll admit as a Gardelover I am a little tempted, but 20 dollars is outrageous.

If it was 5 dollars I probably would for cars sleeves alone, 10 dollars would be max, butbeven then I don't think the art is that amazing, plus since it's basically the only shop customize option right now it doesn't feel like repping Garde it feels like repping being a paypig.
Sadly this will probably be the only Garde cardsleevs I get and I will have to pass them by, but still it's unreasonable and I refuse to mark myself as a paying to my opponents.
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>>56873349
Better than making your opponent get a new hand in a 20 or less card deck
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>>56873273
Play the Las Vegas Bonehead with the new Mankey/Primeape. It'll carry you.
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>>56872758
What are you doing here, you should be farming meat for GW
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>>56873349
Specific damage threshold threats, such as Dargonite with Mewtwo.

Can turn 3 shots into 2 shots and 2 shots into 1 shots.
His worth really depends on both the meta and the type of damage your deck dishes out, but he can give you points and cut down on the number of turns by virtue of killing faster.
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>>56873369
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>>56873343
Actually...
What if Johto is the miniset?

Far too barren and devoid of shillmons, I think it's the miniset actually
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>>56873309
>if even a single bulba or caterpies dies you know have either 2 dead cards

This is what Porygon helps with as well. I was running into that exact issue. Now it's more likely I'll have at least a Koffing or Porygon benched to take a hit instead. I could use a fossil, but fossil has no other utility outside of that and 10 less HP. Alternatively I ran it with an extra Bulba, but then I'd get frustrated when I get 2 Bulbas on turn 1.
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Should've had this earlier, but got gold. I'm done with this shit, don't care about flairs or shine dust.
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>>56873343
Umbreon is like a top 10 mon at the very least on any given poll.
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>>56873374
Edit the attack description to say:
"Flip 2 coins. This attack does 0 damage."

Seriously hate this bitch glad TR killed her.
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>>56873341
This makes more sense, thanks for the explanation.
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>>56873349
When Misty flips tails.
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>>56872750
Haven't played too much but I'm at 15 wins with Primeape. I'll probably get to 25 with it and swap to a Misty deck to farm the rest quicker.
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>Open pack, no rainbow effects or anything
>Rotate the cards to see if anything wasn't 1 diamond rarity
>See shiny border
>It was just Machamp ex
Man, had me excited for a moment. Oh well. One step closer to the Mew card at least.
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Oh my
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>>56873369
Primeape is in the Charizard pack, isn't he? I haven't even pulled on that yet; all of my daily pulls have gone towards Mewtwo's pack to try to get Gardevoir line. What's in Charizard pack besides, well, Charizard and Primeape?
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>>56872807
I could be playing EX but why miss out on all the fun.
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>>56873391
Forgot your pic anon?
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>>56873414
Kangaskhan, which is almost required in most decks
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>>56873414
Sabrina arguably most important.
Then Erika for Grass decks, same with Eggy.
Also Moltres and Blaine.

Oh yes, and Staryu/Starmie.
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>>56873407
that deck with dugtrio to stall is a sleeper against pika spam
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>>56873086
nta but it’s a reasonable argument. Games like this are meant to be enjoyed over time, not nolife’d for a couple weeks until you get burned out on it and quit playing. As it stands the gameplay is simple enough and varied enough that i understand both wanting to grind it and play a game or two a day and move on with life
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>>56873414
All the good trainer cards bar Misty are in the Charizard pack. Granted I used points on both my Sabrinas but I pulled everything else.
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?
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>>56873343
Choose between:
Umbreon
Togepi
Tyranitar
Lugia
The three beasts
Feraligatr
Typhlosion
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>>56872871
FUCK YOU
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>>56873414
https://gamevlg.com/pokemon-tcg-pocket/cards/pack-genetic-apex-charizard
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>>56873349
Youd be surprised at the number of times a 1hit kill is possible thanks to giovanni or even just negating a potion is good enough.
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>>56873433
Wait and see what it's for.
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>got pissed off and decided to pull a couple of packs
I finally might have a chance against Lapras...
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>>56873433
You will use those tickets to trade. You get 1 a month or you can purchase them with paid gold bars.
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>>56873343
Go the meta breaking route
Make a Smeargle EX that after you attach 3 energy can use any attack on any mon in your deck
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>>56872884
>since they nerfed Sabrina
What the hell are you on about
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>>56872884
I sometimes use a metal deck for fun. It won't do much against a meta deck that gets a good starting hand, but otherwise I've racked up a few wins with it. The basic strategy is to stall until you can play Melmetal with 4 energy attached to it. If you don't have any Ex Pokemon in your deck then you can effectively afford to use two Pokemon as fodder, or use one as fodder, let Melmetal die then finish off with another Pokemon. And I fill the rest of the deck with the other metal Pokemon, as well as a Snorlax which basically acts as a meatshield with 150HP. Pawniard and Bisharp do decent damage with just 1/2 metal energy. Mawile will remove the opponent's energy if you land a heads with Crunch, which can be useful for delaying attacks that require multiple energy. I rarely bother trying to use Meltan's Amass attack, most of the time I'm better off just evolving into Melmetal as soon as possible because it's ability gives it extra protection even against bench attacks. Although it could be useful on the first turn of a match if you have limited other options.
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>>56873343
These two. Specifically, if you get a Jasmine in your pack you are 100% guaranteed to get at least 1 Houndoom (with multiple Houndooms being the norm).
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>>56873433
With the Advance name it could be related to some future upgrade mechanic
Could be like
>trade 2 copies of one card to a higher art rarity + use ticket
>upgrade one normal mon into it's EX version
>spend one ticket to flair any card without needing dupes
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>>56873432
You do NOT diss Koga like that
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>bent a1
>backwards pack
Which one, help me right fucking now
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>>56872754
I keep picking the Charizard pack hoping to complete the set.
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Promo Mank is fucking amazing
holy hell
SSS tier deck
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>>56873320
after my first two days of mewtwo packs I chose pika packs next because its cute :3
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>>56873464
What does A1 even mean
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>>56873468
Promo Mankey is a fun deck because it actually makes you play the game in a different way than other shit.
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>>56873456
Giant forehead erotic...
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>>56873470

Its the logo on the top right. He's asking which pack to open.

>>56873464

A1
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>>56873483
>too impatient
>went for the backwards pa
I should've gone for the bent A1. I failed you.
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When you guys open backwards packs, do you flip them frontfacing first, or just open it backwards?
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>>56873456
Bro, your Steelix???
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>>56873464
bottom right skip
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>turn 1
>Mankey vs Voltorb, empty benches
>play a fossil, pass turn
>he concedes
Pikabros, you guys okay?
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>>56873503
I do a little ritual where I will flip it forwards, and then go around the entire selection flipping them backwards. Then I'll go to the OG and flip it backwards again before opening.
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Tier list
>S
Pikachu
>A
Mewtwo, Articuno
>B
Charizard
>C
Venusaur
>D
Everything else
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Honestly, I'm happy that Pikachu gets to be competitive
For the face of the franchise, you don't see that very often
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>>56873537
Pikachu Zekrom ruled the tcg meta for like 3 years
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>>56873537
I am not, I hate rats
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>>56873531
t. butthurt Mewtwo fag
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Tier list
>S
Porygon
>D
Everything else
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Reminder that the cards you pull each pack are already determined as soon as you click Open a Pack. There’s no difference when you pick a backwards or bent pack. The app sends and receives packets and which cards you get before you open a pack.
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What’s the point of using auto mode when the AI makes such stupid decisions?
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Is Pinchurin actually good? He looks kinda shit. I get the feeling that the only reason people are using it is because it's an electric type that can replace Zapdos for Pikachu.
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>>56873577
Zero effort way to grind simple content of you just want basic rewards
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>>56873531
Charizard is not better than Venusaur
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>>56873577
Gachatards don't actually like playing games, they just want to collect jpegs because they secretly like NFTs without the benefit of being able to sell them later, even if for a loss. So the "gameplay" to them is just a means to an end.
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>>56873585
Yes it is, Venusaur is pretty ass. The heal doesn't fix any numbers, any poke that can two shot it can do it after it heals and it's too slow for the damage it does
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>New packs come out
>Genetic Apex is still available to pull from but now there's a symbol there denoting that it's a second edition print
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>>56873602
>let's just pretend that every venusaur player doesn't run two Erikas and two potions
>oh, and forget that hit can two shot literally every card in the game
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>>56873333
Fellow Porygon bro. Z in the actual TCG has some funky mechanics so I'm hoping that in a year when we get to Sinnoh 'mons we have some fun abilities like Downgrading Beam.
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>Went mad and spent wonderpick recharges like crazy
>Didn't get a single card I wanted
goddammit
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>>56873611
This seems real fucking good
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>>56873602
>>56873606
>Lets also forget Butterfrees ability
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is pidgeot/arbok control a thing and how would i go around making it
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>>56873624
2x pidgeot line
2x arbok line
add staples
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The Lapras event AI is unable to deal with losing an EX card first
It seems to be have like you only took one point, for example retreating an ex that can withstand 2 hits for a 50HP basic that will die next turn
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>>56873611
He is using Tri Attack in that art but none of his attacks are Tri Attack
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I swear if he's not in the next pack I'll lose it
speaking of how would you change his moves? a lot of his effects deal with discard but I doubt we'll get mill in this format
discard opponents/your energy?
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>>56873606
>>56873620
Let's pretend a deck full of stage 2s doesn't take ages to setup and requires Erikas to survive long enough to see half of those setup if you haven't lost already
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>>56873611
Holy fuck I want this
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>>56873602
Bro, your Erika???
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>>56873636
I didn't mention Butterfree in this post (>>56873606) because it's completely unnecessary. The only times I've lost with my Venusaur deck are to a fast Blaine deck and the very few times I've had a shit opening hand. I thought about adding in Butterfree, but it's completely unnecessary and would just slow me down.
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>didn't get a thanks after this
outskilled
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>>56873630
Here's your tri attack porygon bro
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>>56873591
Sure. Go ahead and manually play the 20 Lapras battles vs the computer then. Have fun.
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>>56873652
Still too slow and gets owned by the above decks listed.
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Is this build correct for Dragonite?
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>>56873692
1v1 me. tbkt0h. That's tbkt(zero)h. No one else jump in. I want this guy's ass in my mouth. Bring a fire deck if you want an advantage. Bring any other deck if you're not a pussy.
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>>56873712
Based. He’s talking a lot of shit without providing anything of substance
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>>56873582
he paralyzes, which is the third best status effect but still a good status effect
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>bought all store hourglasses
>20 days till I can get new ones
>until then there's basically just nothing
this is gonna be the point at which most people quit
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>>56873712
7436499731064181
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Feels good making Mewtwo/Garde pussies concede with my dark deck
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>>56873729
those are some mighty huge badingalings
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>>56873733
*once every 15 matches
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>type advantages in a game where you actively get cucked for trying to cover your mons weaknesses with another type
anyone who takes this game's battles seriously is retarded.
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>>56873708
i swapped one sabrina and one potion for meowth and red card but otherwise yeah
just be sure to not run dark energy even if it seems backwards because the RNG with 3 energy types can absolutely fuck you over
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>>56873745
More like every match. I swear I’ve seen so many shitters use that deck
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>>56873752
It's just a card collection game. The battle part is extremely forced to incite spending among mega try hards.
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>>56873745
Arbok absolute rapes all psychic pokemon and prevents switching
I play dark deck and destroyed every meta deck even if I only have 1 Arbok
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>>56873753
It's hard enough with two, I've had matches where I only get water energy and can't attack
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>>56873518
>mankey
>with fossil
intredasting
which fossil
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Tell me all of your pack open rituals.
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>>56873712
Cucked game has terrible features.
Private battle code e0v3gz I want to see Venusaur
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>>56873769
Oh no! The 150 HP mewtwo that is about to blast you for 150dmg can't switch out! Whatever will he do?
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And fuck Dragonite too no SKILL
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>>56873729
I fucking love fat titty pokemon OC artists so much, that one is amazing. There's something so good about the combination of fat titty artist OCs and Pokemon. I think it appeals to both my love of seeing girls having to deal with their fat tits being fat and my love of cute Pokemon
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>>56873779
none. i click on the thing and take the exact first pack in the carousel. the contents of the packs are decided before the carousel. if you need proof, close the game during the carousel. when you turn it back on it'll already have given the cards to your account.
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>>56873782
Usually get fucked by poison and they don’t have enough energy to one shot faggot
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>>56873752
Every game has strengths and weaknesses for their main archetypes. The Pokemon Tcg just makes it blatantly apparent instead of hiding it behind "understanding the meta." As a shitty example, in Magic, simply put, Green's main strat is to have a bunch of big monsters. Black strategizes around removing monsters with kill spells. Blue likes to remove those threats with card control. In Pokemon, instead of having these advatages hidden, they just say, "RED KILL GREEN, BLUE KILL RED." It's no different.
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>>56873779
>it’s booster pack opening time
>tap the pack I want
>tap on the pack right at the front
>swipe to open it
I’m not a superstitious retard. The cards are set in stone well before you morons start checking for bent edges and shit
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>>56873783
kek imagine thinking anything in this game is related to skill. it's a hard numbers game.
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>>56873775
Dome, of course.
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>>56873781
Coming hot. It's been about 20 minutes and the other guy hasn't taken up my offer.
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Even: spend more on this game
Odds: save money for that yurishit gacha coming out next week
Trips+: never spend money on gacha ever again
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>>56873782
You realize Arbok needs only 2 energy to attack and mewtwo needs 4?
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>>56873793
if you don't have enough energy as a mewtwo that means you don't have two gardevoir yet. dark deck doesn't do jackshit against mewtwo unless the gardevoirs are at the bottom of the deck
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>>56873786
Based
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>>56873806
>yuri gatcha coming out next week
Anon you can’t just drop this info and not give us the name
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>>56873779
I just pick a pack with its behind facing me. If none of them are backwards I just spin it around and pick one to flip back.
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>>56873809
You seem like a bitter mewtwofag
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>>56873807
you realise mewtwo gets 3 energy in 1 turn?
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>>56873811
Heaven Burns Red
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mankey beats mewtwo deck :)
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>>56873814
You don't get to set up garde against deck that constantly dish out damage
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>>56873813
>explain why you're wrong
>n-nuh-uh
can we stop pretending anything in this game is up to more than luck? unless you play like a literal retard (like the ai) all that matters is if you have the correct cards and draw them at the right time. if we assume an optimal draw order for both, then dark deck gets fucked by mewtwo, you can simulate it yourself if you want.
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>>56873822
pray tell what prevents someone from setting up garde on the bench unless they don't pull the evo line
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I'm having trouble finding baby's first decklist online
The tutorial packs got me an exeggutor ex and a full art charmender but I still haven't used the 30 free packs I got offered on the side since I don't know what to build
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>>56873823
Using Sabrina to switch in ralts immediately makes them concede and if not it’s a slow death of mewtwo by weezing and arbok/Muk. Again fuck off Mewtwofag
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>>56872523
>Charizard/Moltres
>Moltres/arcanine
>Machamp/sandslash
>Venasaur/eggecute
>Mewtwo/garde
>Weezing/anything
>kabutops/onyx/Brock
>articuno/lapras
>beedrill/other grass
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>>56872659
Is there any card in particular you are saving craft points for?
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What is your opinion of Charizard + Las Vegas fried chicken players? It's what I play because it's all the game wants to give me.
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>>56873845
I don't think that's any of your business
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>>56873838
you're an idiot for thinking I'm a "mewtwofag" when a mewtwofag would likely downplay the deck's power, not say it's better. quit your tribalism you fucking troglodyte. you're the same kind of retard who probably gets into console wars on /v/
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>>56873792
>>56873795
Both of you are bitter and hate fun
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>that complete lack of Venusaurs from my deck
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Good game, Nite.
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>>56873845
I don't think that's any of your business
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>>56873829
The amount of turns it takes to evolve 3 stage. Remember you are getting hit with disadvantage attacks from the very first energy.
150 hp isn't as much as you think
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>>56873816
Oh it’s finally getting an English release? Been long enough.
>>56873851
I don’t hate fun. I’m just not the target audience for collecting culture. Cards are cards, sure some look prettier than others but I don’t see the point in doing inane bullshit that literally cannot make me any luckier. People do this with physical packs all the time and it baffles me
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>>56873850
I don’t really care i just answered your question on how it can beat mewtwo. You can keep seething.
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only thing my mank deck loses to is if someone is playing rapidash/blaine and gets rapidash out turn 2
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>>56873863
idk sounds like you're seething
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Fucking finally got the damn Butterfree. Now I can stop stressing and start planning flairs and stuff.
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>>56872844
takes too much energy. Arbok is still really good in most situations. very fun to trap things while they're poisoned.
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i prayed to god for a single muk, but he's not answering me
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I only just realized Mew is the only one that's not in.
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>mini set release
Do you guys think it'll use the same booster points?
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>>56872884
>How can I make Melmetal work
I went against a melmetal. He put in fearows to sac while tossing all energy on melmetal. Bisharp also is pretty much a metal sandslash. once he got 4 energy my deck had nothing that could take a hit and he swept me.
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>>56873887
>he hasn't looked under the truck
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The first two times I tried Expert Lapras with this deck I beat it on auto, now I've spent the last two hours trying and failing against it. What can I do?
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>>56873887
No one tell him.
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>>56873852
Ggs
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>>56872994
I can't ever get a side look like this. i managed to tilt a pack once but it just never tilts.
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>>56873887
>she doesn't know
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>>56873783
>skill
>when 90% of decks rely on coinflips

lmao
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>>56873914
Buy a newer phone. If you have a newer phone, buy new nerves and fingers; yours are shit.
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>>56873094
I've been winning the same way. It's a free prize to me.
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I've taken the Meowthpill
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>>56873214
I also see way more mewtwo than Pikachu decks although my first two battles during this event were pika
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>>56873889
It better, otherwise we’ll all look like fools for hoarding hourglasses
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Hot period, open a pack NOW
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>>56873933
Pika is harder to build ftp, and it’s harder to pilot than mewtwo, where your wincon is a lot more straightforward. Not saying pika is rocket science, but it’s slightly less beginner friendly.

Also doesn’t help that pika packs kind of suck outside of cards for the pika deck.
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>99 friends
>snap
>50 friends
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>>56873094
I don’t think it’s as strong as people think, at least not in every deck. I certainly wouldn’t run that tech in a mewtwo deck.
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>>56873953
>it’s harder to pilot than mewtwo
in the same way that it's harder to figure out that the pig goes oink than it is the cow goes moo
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>>56873320
>drew you to the Pika packs
Arcanine and jolteon are two of my favorites. In addition to that I knew that the 3 meta choices were mewtwo deck, charizard deck, and Pikachu. So I went with Pikachu even though at the time I kept hearing that mewtwo was the best deck.
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>>56873960
Stay butthurt. Pika occasionally gets to roll decks in the early game for free, but it takes thought and positioning to pin the opponent in the mid/late game. It’s a little more complicated than sitting on mewtwo’s fat ass while praying for the right draws.
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I should be farming meat for GW...
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>>56873953
>it’s slightly less beginner friendly
I don't see it. Pika only needs two energies and bunch of yellow cronies behind him. At least Mewtwo needs a stage 2 jerking him off every turn on top of every energy available. One misstep and Mewtwo's fucked. Once Pikachu is online, you can't fuck it up. The only "beginner friendly" thing that Mewtwo has over Pikachu is that he hits harder and has a larger hp pool.
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>>56873852
>It's another "Bricked on second stage so your secondary attack has to hold the fort" episode

I became an Egg believer because of games like that. That 80 damage usually comes in clutch when it needs to.
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>>56873977
>Once Pikachu is online, you can't fuck it up
You haven’t piloted the deck. Pika can’t just swap in a clean house if your opponent has a decent setup, and the bench isn’t guaranteed to be full. You have to set up some kind of trap or pin through positioning / chip damage (zebstrika is mandatory for the deck in my opinion). 90 damage isn’t that great a few turns into the game, and pika’s 120hp starts to become a bigger liability the longer the game goes on.
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>>56873582
>Pinchurin actually good
As a Pikachu pack main, I thought he was the worst card in the game. Until I went against a deck that I've only seen a Japanese whale play that's imo the most broken deck in the game that used Pinchurin. Absolutely disgusting. I recreated the deck but only used it twice because it's so nasty to use.

It's a decent card with a lot of potential.
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>>56873976
Still in the mines, sis? Drop that pos game already, the people in charge already have.
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>>56873852
>pokeball in hand
Thin your deck grassbro.
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>>56873652
>>56873692
You two should battle. best out of 3.

Whoever wins was right.

Shutup or put up. Enough of the theory crafted bs. For the record I faced a vena deck and killing one is a chore. too much heal and so much damage once it's on board.
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>>56873998
He’s good. I run two in my pika deck at the moment. Two energy cost isn’t my favorite, but you can make it work with smart energy distribution. I do think pincurchin is filler for the deck at this point, though. Give me a free retreat cost / low energy attack on a basic lightning, and he’s off the team.
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I like all my friends community showcases: 4953253533743001
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>>56873838
>>56873823
Battle Each other. Enough schzio theory. Best of 3 was right all along.
>in before but I don't have that deck
Then maybe keep your mouth shut.
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>go first
>brick with only Hitmonlee
>opponent Red Cards me, unbrick
>now have Cubone in bench and Marowak at the ready
>Red Cards me again
>brick
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>>56873823
yeah there's variance in cardgames, that variance has a strong impact on the game's result, and that's why consistency boosters are powerful (like the damage bonus from a weakness) are actually a big deal in a matchup table
you're a dumb retard who doesn't understand shit about dick
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This game has the spirit of Pokemon
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>>56873886
I have muk but no grimer.
have 2x weezing
2x arbok
2x full Nido male and female lines
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>>56873899
Get rid of the helioshits, double up on the eevee/jolteon and get yourself another zapdos, my dude.
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>>56873899
remove the wiggly. put in more electrics. either build energy on zap while someone else tanks or let zap tank while you build energy on the jolteon or helio then sweep.

Use Sabrina to pull out her bench to either oko or beat up while she has no energy.
>mfw i see no Sabrina (the most powerful support card in the game)
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>>56873782
What 150 HP Mewtwo? What damage?
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>>56874029
the card giveth, the card taketh away
This is why i usually only red card after my opponent has used an oak
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>>56874001
The two pokemon he took off me were a Petilil after a Sabrina play and my other Bulbasaur. I just kept it in hand to bluff. The only thing I could think to drop the pokeball for would be a red card, but that's just a meme card for pseudo reddit intellectuals. I'm okay with having extra consistency for the off game where it sits in my hand. I guess I could throw in a Giovanni, but having 5 trainers in my deck seems a bit too much.

>>56874010
>best out of 3.
I'm down. Lemme know if you wanna go again, man. I'll go best of 5 or more if you want. I only had 4 cards left in my deck and 2 of them were my Venusaurs, so that clearly wasn't my best showing, but I was still able to beat a 4 energy Mewtwo.
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I know its deserved for playing M2 but I feel like I always brick and Gardevoir is always in the bottom 5 cards of my deck so I can never ramp against stuff like PikaEX
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>>56873922
I have a note 10+
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>>56873953
>Also doesn’t help that pika packs kind of suck outside of cards for the pika deck
I think so too besides misty.
>>56873977
>don't see it. Pika only needs two energies and bunch of yellow cronies behind
Do you have the deck? If not maybe that's why you can't see it because you have no experience with it. You can't always get a full bench and without it you deal no damage.
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>>56874061
iktf, anon
>Go first
>open mewtwo, 2x fossil, 2x ralts
>Opponent opens ball, oak, and every other card they can use to get maximum draw power
Simply outskilled
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>>56874061
(posted in wrong thread)
you wouldn't have time for gardevoir to be relevant against pika anyway unless you got her perfectly on curve
the deck needs a plan B against pikachu and if your deck only has mewtwo and gardevoir you're just accepting that you lose that matchup
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>>56874061
The Pikachu deck is simply the best in game right now, everything struggles against it.
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>>56874044
>>56874054
Should I get Sabrina like this? I don't have any.
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>>56874085
I'm playing the Jynx Kanga variant from the tourney list to give me a meatshield and an answer to energy stackers. Sometimes it helps me edge games out vs Pika, sometimes not
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>>56874106
Mind posting it anon? I'm playing the meowth version but would be interested to see a different version.
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>>56874097
Hard to say. Depends on what you're aiming to build and how far you are from getting it, and how many hourglasses you're willing to burn to get more pack points

FYI, I immediately sparked 2 sabrinas early on so I could do pvp and do not regret it at all. Although I was pulling from pika and knew id pull from mewtwo after charizard packs.
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Sure, Sabrina is one of the best cards in game.
No matter what you're trying to build, you'll probably want her in your deck.
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>>56873953
I don’t have Pika but the early game seems really strong and rng-resistant while the 1 RC mons give you a lot of extra life. Mewtwo ‘seems’ linear in that its win condition is pretty laid out but you have to take a very different route there if you brick, lots of trainer card usage, planning ahead and strategic sacs.
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How do you guys feel about Eggs EX + Victreebell? It feels really good into pika ex. Charizard feels like it should be a bad matchup, but you coin flipping in their face while they set up is quite a bit of pressure.
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>>56874136
>I don’t have Pika but the early game seems really strong and rng-resistant
So you don't have the deck but keep talking like you're an expert on it?
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>>56874097
>>56874134
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>>56873875
still seeking it, got 2 rats, 5 plesiosaurs and 7 monkeys
annoying bug
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game needs emotes
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Should I reroll? I made this account yesterday but I'm not feeling it. I have 54 hourglasses left.
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>>56874156
retard
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>>56874106
as long as you remember to remove red cards from any tournament list you netdeck
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>>56874160
redcards are good tho
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>>56874085
>the deck needs a plan B against pikachu
Honestly, I’m not sure what the plan B would be. I mostly play pika, and the game plan is
>Can I btfo them on turn 4/5?
>If not, how can I pin them?
The second question is more often than not where we wind up, and it’s not always easy to navigate. The game hits a point where I need to get mewtwo in the open AND have it within pika knockout range because losing pika is almost always a loss. Potions / sabrinas / x speed make that difficult to achieve before mewtwo gets stacked and/or gard goes online.

Pika is only the better deck because of consistency and options.
>>56874106
Jynx is pretty good. Kanga probably works well too, though I’m not sure I would use it over jynx (who is more reliable and threatening).
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>>56874111
Yea this is the list I'm running, how do you like having the Meowth in there? Ofc after I post bitching about it I get a starting hand of full Garde line and M2. Just gotta git gud at drawing I guess.

>>56874160
Don't even want one red card for when people are hoarding their hand?
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>>56874167
not in a closed decklist format they arent
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>>56874156
Idk are you just collecting or trying to make a particular deck? You seem to be pulling from every pack.
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>>56874071
>Do you have the deck? If not maybe that's why you can't see it
You got me there. I only have 1 Pika Ex and not enough electric types to support the deck, but his tourney results so far show that he's pretty strong. As of posting this, he's placed at least twice out of the top eight in the last five tourneys at worst, and five out of eight at best. He's got to be pretty brain-dead to be the most successful deck this early on into the game.
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>>56873852
They really need to fucking buff Ivy to have its attack cost only 2 energies. It's so much fucking bullshit that you need 3 energies on it for a fucking 60 damage attack. Bulba also has too high an energy cost for Vine Whip but I can at least chalk it up to being bulky enough to take a hit from any base mon it'll face turn 1.
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>>56874171
ya they are
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>>56874168
>Honestly, I’m not sure what the plan B would be
jynx going second, kanga going first
>Jynx is pretty good. Kanga probably works well too, though I’m not sure I would use it over jynx (who is more reliable and threatening)
jynx is not reliable going first
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>>56874145
I’ve played many of them and it reflects what I’ve seen, I didn’t claim to be an expert but when the deck’s entire core are bulky searchable basics with cheap damage then there are 0 bricks. I’m comparing that to a deck I know the ins and outs of that requires a lot of planning down to every energy equip because it has a slow wincon which also often has to act as its tank.
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Tempted to pull a 10 pack but idk. I think maybe waiting next pack would be better.
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>>56874176
Dragonite and Gloom I got from wonder packs, Exeggutor and Charmander for free, and the rest was about 300 pulls on the Pikachu pack.
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>>56874177
>You got me there. I only have 1 Pika Ex and not enough electric types to support the deck, but his tourney results
Please just shut up. You don't play the deck. You don't know what you're talking about. All you're doing is pointing your finger at a piece of paper or someone else's results without any experience or understanding of how the deck actually works. Worst of all you are speaking as if you're some kind of authority on it, when in actuality you don't even play the deck...

Keep your mouth shut. retard. All this theory crafted bullshit and no actuall experience....
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>>56874136
>Mewtwo ‘seems’ linear in that its win condition is pretty laid out but you have to take a very different route there if you brick, lots of trainer card usage, planning ahead and strategic sacs
That’s every deck, anon. I know it’s hard to see if you haven’t played pika, but you have to think ahead several turns if you want a good win/loss ratio. The deck’s damage output in the mid/late game isn’t good unless you luck into a zapdos high roll, and pika gets one-shot by a lot of relevant cards (and goes within range for a two-tap from very small attacks). Pika is very good. I’m not downplaying it. People just wrongly assume that the deck generates free wins when the reality is that good win/loss ratios only come to those who understand how to play around pika’s weaknesses.

Comparatively, mewtwo is easier to play.
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>>56874198
It's just a children's card game bro lol relax
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>>56874171
>Opp takes a billion years to get his basic stage mon in an evo line out
>Opp has a fat hand and gets his stage 1 out
>Opp has a big hand in lategame and hasn’t used many Gios, Brinas, Pots etc that he is likely currently planning on having
3 scenarios right there where it’s easy as shit to slap it down in random queue, not like there are many better options anyways
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I wonder if I fake my age to be 13, I'll get better pulls.
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>>56874198
>when in actuality you don't even play the deck...
I'd love to play the deck, but, as I've said, I don't have the cards to do so. Yeah, Pikachu has lower health than Mewtwo and therefore requires an iota more forethought to play, but don't act like you're calculating a rocket's trajectory when deciding when to use your Xspeed. Relax, man. Pikachu can't hurt you. He's just a mouse.
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>>56874209
and in all those scenarios the red card has a non negligible chance of amounting to nothing.
it's a gamble you can chose to take but unless you know for sure every card in your opponent's deck it's not an interesting / good one. I'd rather have a second kangashkan to edge.
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>>56874171
>Thins out hands during endgame board states when both boards are fully set up and people are holding onto trainer cards
>Lets you reshuffle their hand into their deck when they play a stage 1 after leaving their basic unevolved for a couple of turns (which means they are likely holding the stage 2).
The decks are so small, that you can have a pretty decent read of their hand just by watching their board states and what they're playing. Sure, it's not as powerful in a format where you can't see their list, but there's so little wiggle room in optimal deck building that you should be able to extrapolate what they have in their deck based on what you are seeing on the board and use that data to analyze their previous plays and make an educated guess as to what they are holding.
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there is more coin flipping than card playing in this game
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>>56874202
I’ve played a fair few other decks than M2 and it’s consistently the one that gives the most scenarios where I have to think because there’s only Mewtwo as your win con 99% of the time. I don’t think it generates free wins at all or I wouldn’t beat it but the high bulk/low rcs give so much more leeway than other decks have. This also lets you maintain more pressure; if M2 bricks he can’t build as the active Pokemon and fire off Psychic Spheres.
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>>56874238
depends what you want to play
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>Man this hand is fucking bullshit. Where the fuck is my stage 2 mon, I've been waiting all game to evolve it.
>Opponent red cards
>Get stage 2
This is how like 90% of the red cards work against me. If I have a hoard of cards in my hand, chances are it's because I'm fucking waiting on something that's at the bottom of my deck and you just helped me.
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>>56874224
The only gamble in those states I described is that they get it back but for potentially game-winning odds in your favor, I’ll take that every time
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>>56874026
I’ll play the mewtwofag. Send the code
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genuinely kinda funny that there's so little dark cards that they don't even bother putting a dark deck in for the highest tier of free battles
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>>56873251
>surely he didn't brick as a Venusaur ex player.
O-of course not. I n-never brick, h-haha...
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>>56874060
>I just kept it in hand to bluff.

Like, bluff that you have extra cards? Also, does your opponent see if you put down a Pokeball, but have no cards to satisfy it? Or do they just see the ball go down, shuffle, and are left to assume you picked a mon even if you have none left? Cause you can play some pretty cool mindgames with that if so.
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>>56874246
you're assuming they had them in the first place
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>>56874241
If you have a huge hand and little action then you have a pretty significant chance of just drawing those same 3 cards again. Red card says shuffle first, then draw
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>>56874224
Coin flip effects also have a non-negligible chance of amounting to nothing and they're still really powerful. Red card has risks attached to it, but the payoff when you win the gamble is immense. I can't say for sure that my red cards have helped me win games that I would have lost, but I know for sure that I've been fucked over by well timed red cards multiple times
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>>56874261
unless you're fighting a bricked stage 2 deck the payoff is not "immense" lmao
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>>56874232
>The decks are so small, that you can have a pretty decent read of their hand
And that's exactly why red cards don't mean shit. At that point in the game, both players have fewer than 8 cards in their decks. Playing a red card doesn't change anything. If they have more than 4 cards in hand, then all you're doing is giving them another shot at finding the card they need. If it's fewer than 4, then all you're doing is giving them more cards to play. I'd rather have a Gio or a potion to possibly give me the edge in gameplay. Red Card is just a card for pseudo intellectuals to circle jerk themselves over. In a 60 card format, sure. That card could seriously fuck someone over. In a 20 card format, it's just bait for people pretending they're 140 iq players.
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>>56874251
>20 card deck, opp’s hand is fat and he plays a Squirtle on his second or third turn with a non-Squirtle line mon as active. Any Oak’s or Pokeballs would have been used already
GEE I WONDER WHAT CARDS COULD BE IN THERE LET ME GET MY HAND SCOPE
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>>56874250
>does your opponent see if you put down a Pokeball, but have no cards to satisfy it?
They see.
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>>56872884
Pawniard x2
Bisharp x2
Meltan x2
Melmetal x2
Old Amber
Aerodactyl
Potion x2
X Speed x2
Poke Ball x2
Professor's Research x2
Sabrina x2

This works fairly well for me. It still has trouble with meta decks, but you aren't playing melmetal to have a high win rate.
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How do I run kabutops? I have 2x marowak keks
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will professor oak always be a core card in decks?
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>>56874264
potions ? x speed ? Sabrinas ? Giovannis ? some other stage 1/2 the deck is playing for some reason ?
you have no way of knowing because even netdecks aren't really consolidated and people are just either playing what they have or playing a random list they found that no one else is playing.
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>>56873320
>immersive Pika card
>Electric is my favorite type in Pokémon
>Pikachu is unironically one of my favorite mons
>immersive Pika card
Getting a Pika deck along the way's cool too.
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>>56874276
Anything that gives card advantage (for free) will be a staple.
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>>56874276
unless something better pops up yes
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>>56874285
even if something better pops up oak will not be the first cut
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Hell yeah wonder draws!
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>>56874276
It's pot of greed
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Would you? I really wanna save my hourglasses. There's also a different WP with both Charmander and regular Chari, neither of which I have yet.
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>>56874235
yes it's a coinflip simulator after all
traditional nip game
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>>56874293
I have 4 different charizards, so no.
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>>56874293
I'm only going to use dust if there's at least 2 cards in the draw that's worth it. I got a full art gyarados and misty in a wonder pull and pulled a fucking voltorb. Used energy for 1 energy, too.
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i only need 3 more wins but i've gotten so many tail flips on literally any deck im playing and constantly going first but even the """strong one energy mon deck""" naturally isn't working because there's nothing you can do when the opponent's pikachu EX has three on the bench and two energy by their second turn if you're supposedly using the viable one energy mons
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>Check tournament site in op
>Weezing ran a triple Pika gauntlet in the knockout phase to win a tour
WeezingGODS our time has come
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I need like 8 cards to get mew.
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>>56874291
what does pot of greed do?
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>>56874291
it's actually significantly worse than pot of greed
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>>56874311
Draw 2. It was the first card banned.
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>>56874275
My list is:
>2 event Mankey
>2 Primeape
>2 fossils
>2 Kabuto
>2 Kabutops
>1 Potion
>2 X speed
>1 pokeball
>1 red card
>2 Oaks
>1 Giovanni
>2 Sabrinas
I'm iffy on the red card. It just in there for fun because the deck doesn't need 2 pokeballs. I want to try a Primeape/Las Vegas Bonehead deck, but I haven't pulled any yet. Primeape goes fast and hard in the early game and gets most people to concede. If they don't, Kabutops switches the deck into a stall playstyle and can usually win out games. That being said, Primeape is usually my heavy hitter. I'm excited for the day that I get the Cubone line because I think it'll be even faster despite having to rely on the coin flips.
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>>56874291
wtf does this card do
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>>56874315
wow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuH84iNLJ8U
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>>56874287
>have 3 of these
What do I do with the third? Trade it in for the mystery ticket?
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>>56874314
The only draw back is that it locks you out of other trainers. However, ratio wise it's better. Since 2/20 is a higher chance of getting ehat you need rather than 2/40
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>>56874286
yeah thats true. it took awhile for professor's research to stop being used as often in the non pocket pokemon TCG.
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>>56874276
No. Eventually they will print a draw 2 that’s an item and not a supporter. It won’t be for a long time but quote this at EoS if you want, it will happen at some point
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>>56874311
No one knows, they really should put some sort of description on the card saying what it does
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>>56874311
Beats me
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>>56874325
Hold onto it for when trading is available. Or, if you really like Eevee, turn it into flair.
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>>56874332
I think people would just use both the item and the supporter unless you really needed the space for something else.
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I forgot about the fucking cointosses. Jesus fuck, why can't pokemone be good? :(
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>>56874237
I’m not trying to imply that a mewtwo player doesn’t think, but when you have a single win con that doesn’t have to fear much (at full hp), it streamlines the gameplan a bit.

Not hating at all. I just see a lot of butthurt directed at pika decks that isn’t entirely warranted. Some people aren’t capable of recognizing good play from opponents or bad play from themselves yet.
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Which one guys
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>>56874386
always bet on top left
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>>56874386
Center
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Are these last couple challenges worth doing?
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>>56874386
i always pick center like this anon said >>56874391
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>>56874386
Top right is always right.
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>>56874349
>why can't pokemone be good? :(
pureasu underustandu
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FUCK this bitch burn this stupid fucking cunt bitch glass fucker
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>>56874401
>>56874390
>>56874391
>>56874402
we were all wrong.
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>>56874413
>AAAAIIIIIEEEEEE
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>>56874263
> I'd rather have a Gio or a potion to possibly give me
Potion doesn't mean shit if it doesn't put you out of KO threshold. Gio doesn't mean shit either if their HP and your damage numbers don't match up in such a way that lets you KO one turn earlier. Red card has times where it's straight up useless too, but I'll take it over Gio on any deck where I'm not chasing a specific KO threshold for the reasons mentioned before. I don't take it over potion or Xspeed generally, but I manage to find a slot for it in most decks that I don't need Gio for.
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>>56874353
I have 0 problem with Pika decks, they are the best in the format but not at all broken. Anyways what I’m saying is that, although the wincon is the same, actually getting there or not losing is where it’s difficult. You have to be considerate about how much Mewtwo takes because you aren’t guaranteed another one even with draw power.
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>>56874390
>>56874391
>>56874386
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>>56874413
Bottom Left truthers will stay winning
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Flairchads... show us what you got
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So sorry to whoever i did this to
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is there a point to running arcanines in a deck where I've already got 2 arcanine exes
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>>56874442
>when opp gets tails
>"based game im the best"
>when opp gets pic related
>"lnao fucking trash game enjoy your gachaslop powercreep mobile game you faggots"
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stamina recharge is insanely slow in this compared to other gatcha

what the fuck
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>>56874399
Only if you don’t have 2 of each of the promo cards yet. If you do and you aren’t enjoying beating up the bot, don’t bother
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>just one shot a charizard EX with a double nidoking boosted lovestrike
THE POWER OF LOVE
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>>56874423
This is personal experience, so take it with a mountain of salt, but I've never been mad about getting red carded. It almost always helps me out of a shitty hand. Potions help me dodge lethal ~40% of the time that they're in my hand. I would much rather have the off chance of dodging a death blow than the perceived ego boost of possibly denying my opponent his strategy when he's almost certainly just going to pull 1 or 2 of the cards that he just shuffled into his deck.
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>>56874441
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>>56874451
this
but also when people brick and their opponent gets a god hand vs when the opposite happens
overly emotional subhumans aren't fit for card games and any game where chance is a factor in any way
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>>56873219
>Use Porygon to scout next card
>It's shit
>Use Caterpie to shuffle deck

Looks pretty good to me in this particular deck.
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Does Zard EX not discard energies if it kills the opponent? Either that or this game robbed me.
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>>56874469
Based
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>>56874460
Why do I need 2 each?
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>>56873219
despite having a full art, porygon is genuinely dogshit honestly, it's incredible
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>his misty 3 heads
>my misty 1 head
yeah sure "random"
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Is Dragonite+Magnemite a thing? Magneton being a 2 stage that makes energy seems good.
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>>56874483
is there a simple pokemon with 210 hp ?
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>>56874492
you can say that with a lot of cards in the pokemon TCGs
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>>56874488
To… to play the game? idk about you but I don’t want to be caught with only 1 of a card if it turns out to be playable someday and we have no way of getting more
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>>56874469
I've been thinking about flairing up the staples since you can just buy them with tickets, I saw a really cool Poke Ball with Poke Ball flair the other day
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>>56874510
this is a game?
i thought we just collect cards
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>>56874467
And my experience is that I've been fucked by red card too many times to ignore its usefulness. Both in fucking over my stage 2 and shuffling 4+ hands containing key trainers I could have used. Admittedly, I play Charizard most often so point 1 is more relevant to me while Gio isn't as relevant other than 2hkoing Mewtwo with Moltres and 2hkoing Pikachu through 2 potions. Agree to disagree, I guess. You can keep thinking it's bad, and I'll keep thinking it has a place in my deck(s) until it gets proven otherwise.
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>>56874469
>wasting tranny tickets
Come on, man.
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>>56874520
Believe it or not there is a game with rules that you can actually play with these cards. It’s quite fun
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>>56874531
>And my experience is that I've been fucked by red card too many times to ignore it
Sounds like your decks aren't consistent enough to ignore it. My Venusaur and Primeape decks are completely immune to it. Seethe harder, my dude.
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did you know you can concede during the sabrina choice? do your part and save a couple of seconds whenever you're about to lose thanks to that lucky card draw
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>>56874189
I did 10 packs and tbf I got some great pulls. Full art hidden rare charizard twice actually
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>>56874248
>putting a dark deck in for the highest tier of free battles
What do you mean by this? Wow never noticed there's no expert nidoking deck in solo battle for expert...
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>Red card a mewtwo fag turn one
>Primeape rapes his sole Kirlia into a win
Monkeychads ww@
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What's the slappingest card I can play alongside Fearor and Mawile? Something I can use when they try to build on the bench.
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>>56874570
aerodactyl if you want to go full villain
otherwise idk probably wigglytuff ex
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>>56874538
>It's quite fun.
>Mistyshitters
>Pikaniggers
>the thousandth Mewtwo deck in a row
>coinflip mains
It's occasionally fun.
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>>56874406
I'm carrying two sets of her to make you specifically mad, anon.
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Misty finally came through for me (even though the match was already in my favor)
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There's really zero moderation of player names. Very strange for a Nintendo associated product. I've seen the N word a bunch of times.
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>>56874238
if you get a moltres the arcanine or charizard could be serviceable. If you get another starmie ex, you can pair it with pretty much any other water type and have a solid deck, just because starmie is the best card in the game.
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Does the game have a forced basic in your first hand no matter what? I'm running double Mewtwo double Gardevoir with nothing else and I would've thought with only 4/20 cards being basics I'd have had a no-basic opening hand by now and had to mulligan. Guessing they just skipped that and force the RNG to pick at least one basic?
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>>56874500
No. He killed one of my mons and I was banking on the recharge to let me two shot him, but he quite simply did not discard and killed me next turn. I'm *fairly* sure I didn't miss him getting to 5 energy and using the next turn to go back to 4 like they usually do.
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>>56874623
he has another attack you know
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>>56874247
you are replying to the wrong person
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>>56874622
Yes, it will always force a basic.
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>>56874559
Nah. I'll wait out the timer and let it pick for me. I don't consent to having Sabrina used against me, so the game will have to force me to pick. I chose my active pokemon for a reason.
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Up until today I'd been getting a thanks from almost every battle but for some reason today I've only gotten 2 thanks from 10 battles. why is everyone suddenly an asshole?
I could understand if they were mad about losing but I lost most of those battles
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I've created the world's most insane misty deck. It has both early game burst potential, misty flip instant win potential, mid game pressure, and late game survivability. It doesn't even rely on Misty flips. that's just a bonus. But no, I will not be sharing my deck list sorry ;^)
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>>56874622
Yes, it does. In the OG cardgame you have to shuffle if you don't get one in your first hand
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>>56874639
Are you playing in the event queue? I get less thanks there than before the event started, even in ‘tcg player’ queue
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>>56874639
I give thanks even if I concede first (second) turn.
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>>56874628
I do know, but I was outta range for it. Well, one loss in disadvantage to begin with is nothing to lose my head over. I almost had them too, so I wasn't too mad, just confused. If I was just not focused enough, it is what it is.
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>>56874644
if the deck is actually good it will be seen at tourneys and people will get your deck list in that way
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>>56874648
What if you do have one but you say you don't just to shuffle a better hand?
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>>56874639
>thanks system goes to shit the moment pvp incentives are added
imagine that. once ranked ladder launches you will not receive a single thanks from the loser. The "thanks" will become an emote used only by the winner as a "fuck you"
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>>56874499
Nope, Lt Surge can't give the energy to dragonite and its mediocre on magneton. Same reason why Misty Dragonite doesn't work.
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>>56874648
I doesn't matter cause nobody plays the OG TCG anyway.
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>>56874650
Yeah that could be it
>>56874652
I give thanks every time unless the opponent spams their entire hand on their final turn when they are one attack away from winning. Fuck those guys
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fuck Marowak ex. i pulled more full arts than I ever did damage with him
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>>56874644
>dies to Helioptile
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>>56874644
Your deck is a cookie cutter deck with zero innovation. You can't refute this considering the card pool we have.
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>People thanking their opponents at all
I was only ever using the thanks button when I outskilled (flipped coins better) than my opponent. Why would I thank people who beat me through cheap tactics like misty or pika EX?
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>>56874553
not him but there's only been a few times where being red carded has harmed me or even slowed me down. most of the time it does nothing and a good amount of the time it helps me.

If I have cards in my hand it usually means they're not good enough to be played yet.
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>>56874648
memestrat: only putting a single basic in your entire deck so you're guaranteed to get it first turn
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>used to get a bunch of japanese friend requests after beating them
>ignored them
was this a mistake? what are the chances that one of them was a cute japanese girl that I could've married for japanese citizenship
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>>56874690
You say this as a joke, but my monkey/kabuto deck loves always having the shit flinger turn 1.
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>>56874657

When you don't, you must show your opponent your opening hand. Then you shuffle. Lying is considered unsportsmanlike in the TCG and you can be penalized for it.
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>>56874682
a win is a win friend. now shake my hand and record your loss
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>>56874726
Kill yourself nigger
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>>56874665
>unless the opponent spams their entire hand on their final turn
That's fair
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>>56874714
I agree, but won't that give the opponent card advantage given they'd know what you'd be playing?
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>>56874698
Couldn't you just marry a Japanese boy? You'd just have to roll the dice between twink and ugly bastard.
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>>56874570
bisharp and melmetal
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>>56874682
I'm not gonna create some dumbass mindset around it. I thank if the game brings up the thank option. I'm not gonna deny others the shop tickets, and anyone who does in any context is just being salty.
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>>56873628
I don't think the AI takes your points into consideration at all.
You can have 1 point, and It'll have its no energy Lapras EX tank, while it builds energy onto its back row Starmie or undamaged Lapras. Then just lose because it can't retreat or do anything.
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>>56874738

Yes, that's the penalty for having a mulligan. Your opponent knows what you're playing and they get to draw 1 more card for their opening hand if they wish. It's a downside to having few basic pokemon and makes having a consistent strong starter more difficult. For example, quad Iron Thorns ex is a deck right now in the standard TCG. It's 4 Iron Thorns ex and 56 trainers/energy. They always start it, which is crazy strong, but they often mulligan 5-6 times and give their opponent a very large opening hand to work with.
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>Wonder Trade showing the 2(?) star Articuno EX
>whooping 4 stamina
>decide to go for a Nidoqueen on another pack because I don't have her yet
>get Nidoqueen

Nice. I might regret it later but a new card is always appreciated.
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>>56874682
This says so much more about you than it does your opponent. I played YGO for about half a decade, never running meta decks. At best, I would run rogue decks. Never got salty about the opponent’s deck, only the opponent’s play/attitude. You’d be the biggest faggot at locals with your mindset.
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>>56874742
Ended up going with Bisharp. It's a bit touch and go. If you never hit that Bisharp, you're fucked. But those Fearow hits feel so good.
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Has anyone anyone know if gold prices change per region?

Like how in Pokemon Go you can get Poke coins for really cheap in Trukey.
Can you do the same with Gold here?
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>>56874755
Nta but I noticed same thing. it doesn't seem to be coded to take into consideration how many prizes you have. It will sometimes send in a golduck to sacrifice while it tries to build energy on a starmie or lapras but that will be game point for me.
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>>56874690
People literally do this shit with Articuno EX and Fossils. It's fucking retarded.
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Why the fuck is Starmie EX so comically strong? 90 damage for 2 energy, Stage 1, 130HP. Why does it have literally EVERYTHING?
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>>56874763
High risk high reward I guess
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>>56874781
And 0 retreat cost.
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I've turned on the sounds after a week, turns out the cards aren't voiced...WTF?
How hard is it to make my Pikachu go Pika Pika when I play the fucking card to attack?
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>>56874778
>>56874690
How to balance the game:
Put a fucking limit on how many non-mon cards you can have in your deck. Anything more than 50% of your deck is just against the spirit of Pokemon and encourages people to make braindead cookie cutter builds that maximize getting wincon on turn 1 instead of being creative with a variety of mons that synergize with each other. The meta would be a lot healthier right now if you could only have like 5-8 non-mon cards at once.
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So is this the ideal build for a grass deck? its either Liligant charge or butterfree stall and still figuring what i wanna cut to a quiet of for geo.
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>>56874740
Homosexuality isn't officially recognized in Japan and anon wouldn't have been able to acquire citizenship that way. Keep up, friendo.
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>>56872750
Meme Charizard ex/Moltres ex deck. I found the last couple of solo battles more difficult than most players I fought, and it's only because of lotten fluckin ruck. Interestingly enough haven't seen anyone use the promo Mankey deck yet.
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>>56874726
a win is a win friend. now suck my dick and record your loss.
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>>56874798
cards dont make sounds. just make the sounds yourself if you want
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>>56874802
>what is prop 15/3
Shut the fuck up, you have no idea what you’re talking about
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>>56874802
>5-8 non-mon cards at once.
that's stupid and you're stupid
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>>56874805
>homosexuality isn't officially recognized in Japan
Wait are you serious? On my trip to Japan last month I met a guy at the Pokemon Center and we've been e-dating ever since. He told me if he marries me and "registers as the provider" I would qualify for dual citizenship. Was he lying???
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>>56874809
The deep voiced pika pika doesn't sound good, try it.
Sounds like the rat is on steroids.
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Be honest. How many of you guys have never played a TCG before Pocket?
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>Oh, there's an Erika card sleeve set! I may be willing to get that.
>115 Gold
>Um...how much is that, like $5?
>$22

Get the fuck out of here. Are they smoking crack? Who the fuck launches a game with a fucking $22 skin?
>But anon, you get a coin, sleeve, and playmat with it!
>And if you get the 115 gold pack from the shop, you get an exclusive bonus Gardevoir bundle with your pack too! So it's like 2 for the price of one!

Absolute jewish marketing tactic. Are all gachas like this? Glad I never got into fucking Genshit and ZZSneed.
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>>56874855
other gachas are the same or worse
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>>56874803
This is what I'm running, still holding out for a second Venusaur. If/when I get it, I'll probably cut a Pokéball
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>>56874803
Looks solid.
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>>56874781
Water needed at least one card that can function without Misty.
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>>56874863
Then give the shit like 80 HP or something. It'd still function without being literally good at absolutely everything.
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>>56874845
Everyone playing pocket has played a TCG before.
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>>56874845
>TCG
I used to play yugioh. then later played hearthstone.
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>>56874803
Do people really do this? Have only 1 copy of evolution pokemon?
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>>56874890
I don't think he needs it since he has 2 copies of egg.
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>>56874845
Played a lot of it on the GBC. I don't really mind this one being more simplified.
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>>56874900
>>56874900
>>56874900
NEW
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>articuno ex hits me with the blizzard on turn 1
>win anyway
I love pikachu, bros.
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>>56874859
I wish I could get another venu ex just to have both type of builds desu
>>56874861
I thought so too, but any opinions on a 1 of cut for geo?
>>56874890
in a game like this yeah, you really only need 4 basics to fill your lead + 3 bench unless you're pika ex, and depending on the card having more than 1 3 stage evo line is just a brick compared to other cards in hand (in my case its still questionable to have more than 2 evo lines at all).
in my decks example the main stall card is egg since it only needs 1 energy and one evo to get it going so its worth having 2 of, venu is my back up plan to stack so its a 1 of each stage. butterfree is there to sit on the bench to heal so its only worth the 1 of each.
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>>56874469
Based chad card just saved me from a potential Sabrina loss vs Electric
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>>56874855
You also get a handful of Gold as well. So you get a few packs out of it.
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>>56874425
I lose significantly more games to Zapdos than Pikachu. Zapdos is the actually broken card.
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>>56874974
No, you get the gold from the Garde set and then spend it on the Erika set and you can maybe afford 1 pack with the leftover gold
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>>56874644
Double Starmie and a hypno for the bench, you ain’t slick
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>spend all my pack points on two kabutos
>pull one next pack
There is going to be a lot of this in this game isn't there?
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>>56872659
I need all your Misty flipping heads art
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>>56872696
I need to really, only missing a few, but point pack are retarded
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>>56874855
buy anon once you get the 115 gold you can buy gardevoirs set too

so its $22 for both



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