Why is the manga allowed to have violence and blood in it but not the games or anime?
>>56889725That's edgy garbage
>>56889725Because the anime is made for literal toddlers and the games are made for 8-12 year olds. The manga is for teens.
>>56890050They're all made for 7 year olds retard. the reason why the manga gets to do it is because it's NEVER permanent. A pokémon ALWAYS fixes it, death is never lasting and horseshit arsepulls happen constantly.You know, like the anime killed Ash in the first movie, only for bullshit to fix it?
>>56890271It's about the presentation, anon. Impaling a teenager through the stomach, her coughing up blood only to get blasted away with a hyper beam with her being stuck in a wheelchair is a notable difference to>Run between attacks>Get stoned>Cry over it, literally>Everyone forgets about itThe manga might not make deaths permament but it takes advantage of its media a lot more than the anime did.
>>56890050pokemon special was serialized in shogakukan's third, fourth, fifth, and sixth grade magazines which is literally exactly an 8-12 age range. you are as precisely wrong as possible; no more and no less.
>>56890297Then the question is why the games don't go as far, really. Although SV did feature death, child neglect and a kid having a mental breakdown so maybe we're getting there.
>>56890441>Although SV did feature death, child neglect and a kid having a mental breakdownAnon, this has been a fairly consistent part of the series since at least gen 4.
>>56890441Because the entire point of the premise ISN'T "Hyper Violent Death Monsters GOI!" you braindead shitbag.
Archie and Maxie's second deaths were permanent
>>56890466Nowhere near as close as SV depicted it.>>56890479Why are you attacking me? I'm not saying that it should be that. It's not like the manga is hyperviolent either. I have no clue why people always pretend that PokeSpe is super edgy.
>the amount of people in this thread who didn't read the mangahere is my personal favorites>Lorelei freezing Red and leaving him fr death>Norman being an incredibly abusive father whose aggression is so publicly known that any who battled him regretted his extreme actions. >The well known slicing of an Arbok>The overused panel in the OPThe manga always had shit like this. Just you lazy fucks are to damn lazy to actually read and just spams the "BUT THE BLOOD AND RAYQUAZA" image.How about before coming back here to make this thread again read the manga and get more evidence.
>>56891094>Norman being an incredibly abusive fatherRuby deserved it
>>56891094Forgot to mention the Magmars
It doesn't damage the brand image because it's boring as hell and no one reads it
>>56890441>child neglectWe have stronger examples of that in previous gens.At least a pokemon professor studying a world changing phenomenon is about as good of a reason as you can get for leaving your kid alone at the house.
>>56889725>GamesMarowak’s Ghost thingy with Team Rocket. Plasbad kicking of that foetus Pokémon (a parody of PETA killing animals?).>Animé Death of J. Giovanni shite and the rampage of Mewtwo.
>>56889725Tanked btw
>>56891604Do we? Arven very likely has been completely on his own since he was 10 years old tops, probably younger.
>>56891536...unlike the Ashnime which resulted in them dropping their next Lucario-level hit for three years.
>>56889725Because the board of standards & practices for manga isn't run by puritans
>>56890441>Lusamine>Lysandre (nigga's dead)>Ghetsis>More or less SilverIt's just that the games didn't really have much of a story before gen 5
>>56891536>>56891702The animator behind Ashnime reads it btw. He drew artwork of characters like the original Team Magma/Team Aqua or Mask of Ice.I’m currently in the process of archiving all of that stuff.Makes you wonder why only the first gag manga predating Pokémon Adventures was ever referenced there.https://www.serebii.net/anime/epiguide/houen/362.shtml
>>56891731>LusamineHer bad parenting is excused by jellyfish brain poison.>Lysandre (nigga's dead)I don't think it's ever spelled out that he died. Also he's basically unironically "literally Hitler" so it feels deserved.>GhetsisComically evil to the point where it feels ridiculous.>More or less SilverOnly vaguely implied. The only game that actually explains his family situation is Masters, I think.In SV, they just straight up say the professor was killed by a Pokémon. They're not even sugarcoating it.
>>56891805Didn't Lusamine just lose her mind because Mohn got abducted by ayysGhetsis might be comically evil, but it's just a dude that groomed some orphan into being a terrorist only to toss him out when he had second thoughtsHGSS had some event with Silver and Giovanni that made it more obvious
>>56890050>The manga is for teens.LmaoAnyways, that's because the anime got stupidly popular and even if that didn't last it still served to promote new games and GF didn't want to look violent because they unironically thought only kids played their games
>>56889725no one reads the mangathey are desperate
>>56891834>Didn't Lusamine just lose her mind because Mohn got abducted by ayysIt might've contributed, but it was mostly Nihilegos neurotoxin that made her crazy.>groomed some orphan into being a terrorist only to toss him out when he had second thoughtsYeah, which is comically evil. It's kinda hard to take seriously like that.>HGSS had some event with Silver and Giovanni that made it more obviousI think even then it was just implied, but I don't remember HGSS well enough to say.
>>56891702>which resulted in them dropping their next Lucario-level hit for three years.Is this the Zeraora thing in the new anime? I thought that was because both sides were retarded and didn't comunicate on what to use and when
>>56889725The manga isn't one of the faces of Pokemon, and it's also on a medium that isn't as overwhelmingly accessible and popular as a cartoon or video game.But if they did try to adapt the manga, you better fucking believe all of the violence is getting toned down massively, and the blood is completely disappearing, because a Pokemon cartoon will ALWAYS be geared towards toddlers, even if what it's adapting was meant for a slightly older audience.Take Dragon Ball for example, Super had to tone down the violence a LOT because the franchise was a staple among young children now, and they wanted to maximize how many people they could advertise their toys and blu-rays to.
>>56889725>animeToo kiddy to be really violent but there was something about a Snubbull burning to death if I remember right.>gamesWe do have that kind of stuff. SV had environmental storytelling where you find the aftermath of where Arven's mom/dad got brutally killed by the second 'raidon of the game and it get outright stated that was how the Professor died. Lusamine as a whole is complicated because they really backpedaled on her character in every other piece of media she appears in an attempt to redeem her but she did freeze some Pokemon into trophies and abused her kids. Pretty sure Guzma's dad almost definitely used to beat him, Kalos directly references Pokemon being used in wars in the past, Team Rocket did awful shit to lots of Pokemon, and so on. It just isn't obvious in-your-face stuff because Game Freak has an image to keep and a quota of family friendliness to meet. You just have to read between the lines.
>>56891858i think he's referring to them removing anything referencing ash-greninja or greninja in general during gen 8
>>56889725AIEEEEEE
do toddlers even watch pokemon?
>>56891934In Japan? Absolutely, because it's the main vehicle that Pokemon advertises its merchandise with the intent of making the toddlers piss and shit themselves crying until mommy buys the toys.
>>56891834>I think even then it was just implied, but I don't remember HGSS well enough to say.Oh that?That's just the Celebi event. It also showed that Giovanni was actually on his way to answer the call of his Rocket members at the radio tower but the time traveling MC battled and stopped him from doing so.https://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/celebi.shtml
>>56892008Woops. Meant for >>56891857 but I guess it's still an accurate reply.
>>56892008Oh right, completely forgot about that because I obviously never played it, lol. Fucking mythicals, man.
>>56891877>>56891877Anon the game tells you not to get angry raidon blah blah and they just say deceased is not very different from the movie koko with the Father Child monkey The betas put Father Guzma was an average person and Guzma left home because he didn't fit in and we know his fight with his dad was a Pokémon battle, you got that out of your ass The things you put here are pure shit. Like that, they took the fanatic ass out of the clothes, Lillie, it's based on nihilego.
>>56892031Don't blame you.Lots of weird mythical events out there that make things just weird.With most of them just being one off moments that are cool but barely amount to anything.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ica2n3JaNU8
Ash has died so many times.>Chandelier fell on him>Turned to stone when Mew and Mewtwo's beam struggle hit him>Digested by a non-pokemon ooze>Violently assaulted by numerous pokemon>Drowns deep under the sea>Freezes to death in spaceThen there's Team Rocket>Got brutally slain by the fake Groudon>Also eaten by the sludge that got Ash>Turned to stone by Yveltal, which was ACTUAL death and not just some silly bs. They straight up had their lives taken and stone husks left behind.>Meowth was on the verge of death after looking under Mimikyu's costumeAnd let's not forget Marowak, who some Team Rocket grunts violently killed. To date, Team Rocket has been the only villain team to kill innocent people and pokemon. Every other team just consists of bumbling fools following a retarded leader, or just kids and social rejects following another kid and/or social reject.Pokemon definitely scratches that itch for violence every now and then. I can't remember any times the anime showed blood though. Just bruises.
>>56892047>Anon the game tells you not to get angry raidon blah blah and they just say deceasedThe fuck are you talking about
>>56891094It's because it's so fucking edgy it comes off as hilariousAlso it's fug firing his razor at the most hated character from ORAS, of course people will not just remember but cherish that moment
>>56892137>>56892137the game tells you not to get angry raidons and puts it as a or even mentions the deceased It goes into the background and there are already examples anime Pokémon the Movie: Secrets of the Jungle we see Professor Coco's parents when his car overturns A and the games sm Father Guzma wants to go back to his house and the beta that was leaked says that Guzma left because he didn't fit in and. His parents were average people, I don't know where you got that from Father Guzma since even their fight was a pokemon battle
>>56892195>the game tells you not to get angry raidons No it doesn't? What the fuck?>and puts it as a or even mentions the deceased?? It literally tells you the professor died after being hit by the Raidon's attack.
>>56892195What in the god damn?This is a bot isn't it? Or just copy and pasted from a bot this made zero sense. Maybe proof read before posting shit like this.
>>56891696>Lusamine was once a good parent>lost her husband in an experiment>at some point was exposed to Nihilego venom>becomes more controlling of her kids, dictating what they eat, how they dress, how they behave, all in the name of "perfection">Gladion eventually can't take it anymore and runs away with one of the Type: Nulls>Lusamine becomes obsessed with Nihilego>with Gladion gone, Lusamine devotes all her attention to Lillie>becomes more controlling, more insulting, and grooms Lillie to resemble Nihilego>Lillie eventually runs away with Cosmog>when they reunite, Lusamine makes it clear she doesn't care about her kids at all anymore, only Nihilego, and she considers them ugly and worthless>after losing a battle while fused with Nihilego, unambiguously tries to kill Lillie and the MC with her bare handsGee, anon, I can't think of anything worse in this series that was worse than accidental parental abandonment.
>>56892251lillie looks like nihilego Anon that's something fans got out of their asses
>>56892251You(?) said that we had worse examples of child neglect specifically than Arven. Child neglect is not the same as child abuse, even if it falls into the same category. Arven is the worst parental neglect victim, while Lillie is the worst child abuse victim.Also>accidentalLol, lmao. The professor was fully aware how alone Arven was. They just thought their work was more important. Plus they went full on crazy towards the end and didn't give a single fuck if Paldea would be destroyed as long as their dinosaurs/robots would be around. They are not good people.
>>56891857>which is comically evilHow is child and animal abuse "comically evil"? Comically evil is more wearing a mask and robbing a bank with some goons that talk like this>EY, BAWS EYES GAWT DA MONAYOr trying to steal a building, locking a kid away and literally grooming them is just plain evil.
>>56891094>The well known slicing of an ArbokThey retconned that Arbok's death by bringing it back later with a healing factor. I suppose some editor felt bad enough about the death they felt the need to fix it after the fact.
>>56892338I mean he literally goes "muhahaha" and has nothing else to his personality other than "is evil". He IS evil and DOES evil but I can't take his evilness seriously. He doesn't feel human.
>>56892409The Arbok death was chapter 14 in Red, and the retconned "Arbok can't die guys" was chapter 72 way later in Yellow. They probably got feedback telling them to try not to kill Pokemon after the early chapters.
>>56891767He started reading it relatively recentlyAfter he saw a bunch of Rocket Sabrina fanarts
>>56892453Are you confusing Ghetsis for Giovanni?In any case, I don't think you know the difference between comically evil and just evil. You could describe a character like Frieza or DIO exactly like that but no one would call them comically evil because they aren't there to make you laugh and neither is Ghetsis which is why he's the only character in the series to actively attempt murder and on a child at that.And you say he has no personality other than "evil" but he's a cold, calculating, callous person.There's probably only one character that's comically evil and that's Giovanni, even the rocket execs in gen 2 have more personality since they're pining for their leader.
>>56892589No I'm not. Giovanni is a scheming scumbag, but Ghetsis is straight-up as evil as someone in Pokémon could be. Giovanni also has something like honor since he does disband Team Rocket after being beaten, while Ghetsis is the kinda faggot who gets his ass kicked and comes back 3 days later blabbering something about how that was just a setback or some shit.Maybe comically evil is the wrong word. What I mean to express is that he is so evil that it becomes ridiculous and unrealistic to the point where it's not believable anymore. He feels like a joke, but not in an intended way.
>>56892483I see, that certainly clarifies things. Quite intriguing. Honestly, I wish my Japanese was better, to understand the context of his tweets more.After TCG artist Tokiya hid entire own Twitter profile, I feared for the same happening with his art.
>>56892648>who gets his ass kicked and comes back 3 days later blabbering something about how that was just a setback or some shit.You are literally describing Giovanni here. You meet Ghetsis throughout the story but only fight him once and the closest thing to that setback line is this after you beat N.>"This doesn't change my goal. My plans have not been disturbed! In order to rule this world utterly, in order to manipulate the hearts of people who know nothing, I will have N be the king of Team Plasma. But, for that to work, you-- since you know the truth-- You must be eliminated!"Then you have Giovanni after beating him twice saying he was just holding back, complete with evil laugh >"Fwahahaha! Welcome to my hideout! It shall be so until I can restore Team Rocket to its former glory. But, you have found me again. So be it. This time, I'm not holding back! Once more, you shall face Giovanni, the greatest Trainer!"You really are confusing the two.>What I mean to express is that he is so evil that it becomes ridiculous and unrealistic to the point where it's not believable anymoreThat doesn't really mean anything. Like, did you want the story to involve the pokemon more? Or be more like previous villains where they don't really know what they're doing?
>>56892648>that he is so evil that it becomes ridiculous and unrealistic to the point where it's not believable anymore. He feels like a joke, but not in an intended way.What does that even mean?It's like you're saying he's unrealistic because he being portrayed as realistically evil.
>>56890271You're wrong though.
>>56892171People that think the manga is edge either need to broaden their media consumption, or more likely, know exactly one of the few moments that are always parroted here, which make maybe 2% of the manga.Man the comedy trio having a comfy jaunt through the region and converting the villain with the power of manzai sure is edgy as fuck .
>>56892723The losses up to Silph genuinely are minor setbacks for Giovanni though. Losing a fossil or hostage Mr Fuji or a safehouse that had already gotten too hot before Red found it isn't a good reason to disband an entire criminal organization, but losing Silph after a citywide takeover is a pretty big defeat considering the resources put into it and the heat it draws.
>>56892778Bro I have a friend that is ridiculously into it even in his late 30s, I refuse to believe aging millennials aren't the intended audience and not tweensI read it with him when Brendan was still a little bitch, It's edgy as fuckThis is pokemon the squeaky clean franchise that appeals to kids suddenly portraying dumb stuff in an honest attempt to tell a story, what makes it edgy is people thinking it makes it mature or so much better than any other pokemon mediaIt's just shadow the hedgehog with good PR
>>56892723Maybe my memory is foggy because my last interaction with both of them was in Masters.>>56892746It's not realistic at all. It's too over the top.
>>56889731fpbp
>>56892746My idea of realistically evil is having goals that a human would realistically desire. Rocket makes sense to me as standard Yakuza organized crime. They want to launder money out of a casino, they want to obtain the master ball to catch Mewtwo, whom they had a hand in creating in some adaptations. All this to get money and be powerful unbeholden to any laws. It makes sense for Giovanni and his followers to want that end. Unrealistically evil is retard shit like Maxie wanting to blow up the ocean or Lysandre just wanting to kill everything. A goal which the leaders and their followers gain nothing from upon completion. Cyrus is a weird one that also works because he's a loner sociopath who desires the void and successfully fooled his followers. He wanted the void and got it in the distortion world.
>>56889725Because nobody's going to throw a fit over a comic book having those things.
>>56892865>It's too over the top.You're saying that but you haven't said fuck all about how it is.>>56892932>Rocket makes sense to me as standard Yakuza organized crime.See, here's the thing, you're seeing the theme but not how they act. Sure, organised crime is a thing that happens but when was the last time you saw a yakuza or mafioso try to steal fossils, blow a hole in someone's house, get lectured by an old man or make a public display of taking over a building?Hell, when was the last time you saw something like that in a movie? You won't see something like that because it's unrealistic and goofy as fuck. Like shit you would see in Simpsons more than something trying to show how evil people can be.Not to mention there's a degree of verisimilitude. There's no way in the pokemon world, where just about everyone has a superpowered animal that they could take over a city, let alone a completely gated one. The other teams on the other hand at least don't try big outlandish acts without having something over the civilians or they stealth it.
>>56892932>Lysandre just wanting to kill everything. A goal which the leaders and their followers gain nothing from upon completionI know gen 6 is pretty forgettable but I don't get how people (and I mean a lot of people, from what I've seen) memoryhole Lysandre and Team Flare THIS hard. Lysandre is a philanthropist who got turned into a misanthrope by the existence of greedy people, and he thinks the world's resource scarcity can be solved by just nuking most of the undeserving populace and grabbing what they had for the remainder, who by virtue of being part of Team Flare were chosen as the worthy and virtuous (of course, Flare grunts and admins are some of the worst wealth-flaunting nouveau-riche bastards in the region, but Lysandre is blind to that). It's basic nonsensical fascist ideology, maybe directly inspired by Nazi Germany's actions, even, like the Hunger Plan for the Eastern front, peppered with some fixation on superweapons.
>>56892932>He wanted the void and got it in the distortion world.Youdidn'tplaythe game.
>>56893133>mafioso try to steal fossils, blow a hole in someone's house, get lectured by an old man or make a public display of taking over a building?Ever heard of cartels in Mexico?All of these happened, the old man that fought the cartel and killed two before going down is a legendTaking over buildings and bombing a place with drones has become kinda common in some areas
>>56893133>You're saying that but you haven't said fuck all about how it is.>"Hydreigon, KILL THIS CHILD!">adopted a kid, took care of him his whole life and still doesn't give a rat's ass about him, ridicules him even
>>56893333>All of these happened,No, no they didn't.They've never blown a hole in a civilian's houseThey've never taken over a building for obvious reasonsAnd no old man has lectured the cartel, you're confusing that for Alejo Garza Tamez who basically turned every window of his house into armored turrets and fucking died
>>56893287https://youtu.be/UOIPUi5k6MA>There's nothing here, and there is nothing to here.>What I seek is a world, one that requires no spirit. It would be a perfect world>Yes, this place of nothingness is what I sought.>Do not look for me.
>>56893407Careful, you're pulling from "anime fanfiction". He has to directly state this in the games for it to count, even if Generations is a much more direct adaptation of the games.
>>56893407Do you believe the BW1 protagonist arrived to stop Ghetsis & Kyurem in BW2 as well?
>>56893371>one example is a thing that never happened.Why am I not surprised, also we live in a world where people don't give a shit about their biological kids, let alone adopted ones. Hell I'm pretty sure some gay couples ran a pedo ring with their adopted kids.Seems like you're just calling it over the top because you don't like it rather than it actually being over the top like gen 4 was.
>>56893437Cyrus was definitely also pretty over the top. And yeah I can't say I'm not biased, I really dislike Ghetsis as a character and villain, he's so boring.
>>56893428He outright states that he wants to defeat (destroy) the guardian of the alternative world. Generations contradicts that and numerous other major plot points in the games, making it an unreliable source even when it abides to the games.
>>56893455>he's so boring.Let's be honest here, you only think he's boring because you grew up with sympathetic moral villains and you want characters to all have a tragic backstory that justifies their actions.
>>56893485unsympathetic ≠ the character has absolutely no nuance
>>56893539Clearly you have no idea what nuance means in this context.
>>56891877>but there was something about a Snubbull burning to death if I remember rightYou'd be right, that was in the movie, "The Power of Us"
>>56893485>sympathetic moral villains and you want characters to all have a tragic backstory that justifies their actions.Not really, that's pretty boring too and rarely well executed anyway. I liked Sada/Turo because they don't have a tragic backstory at all, but it's kinda ambiguous if they were simply evil, slowly lost their mind or pathological workaholics who should've never gotten custody over a child. They definitely did evil things and had questionable motivations, but somewhere deep down they really did care about their son.
>>56893548Enjoy your comically evil saturday-morning cartoon villain just because he's from a game you've decided to waste your life championing for.
>>56889725Manga is japanese and japanese media isn't so beta it has balls. The games are for the rest of the world and they're a bunch of pussies.
>>56893583Honestly? It's probably a factor. Just look at how many changed NoE/NoA demanded in the games, as seen in the leaks.
>>56893428>>56893470I like his Generations characterization. Game accurate or not his embrace of the nothingness he fell into is poetic, and chastising the lord of the distortion world like he's a misbehaving cat is perfect. They felt confident enough in that interpretation of his character to officially publish it in a game centric anime adaptation.
>>56893485Think of it this way>BW>Interesting concept for a villain that plays with the very basis of the game, brings something to the table for the series overall>BW2>Villain does evil things for powerI can see his appeal in a vacuum, but that shit was so lame in context
>>56893601Yeah and not just that but like when they censored the mentions of human-pokemon relationships in the global release of DPPt.Also, it's fair to mention how Pokémon games are OVERLY SAFE compared to other games of their demography.Meanwhile, manga is more open to show violence, sexy scenes and in more teen-oriented manga they can show straight-up nudes. And I mean sexual nudes not kids with their dicks out.
>>56893711>Also, it's fair to mention how Pokémon games are OVERLY SAFE compared to other games of their demography.That's Nintendo as a whole though innit? You won't see Mario, Kirby, or Zelda go notably far past PG either.
>>56893561>but it's kinda ambiguous if they were simply evilNo it isn't? They're outright not evil.They just slowly lost everything and went mad until they lost their lives too, also you're just proving the point.You absolutely need a character to have a backstory or hackneyed sympathetic angle, no matter how unrealistic it is. You're unable to just accept a villain who's just plain evil for the sake of themselves, like Kefka or Zanza seeing them as boring even though they have the most potential in what they can do since they aren't limited by morals. It's not about how deep they are, it about the reprehensible acts they do.I mean, you bring up the professors but all they really do is leave a time machine on and die. If they only cared for themselves when they went insane you could see some crazy shit like using a baby Arven as a test subject to send back in time being the reason they know humans can't return to the present. Experiments that have no limit are more interest than what he had.
>>56893742>KirbyOf all the series you had to pick you pick the one that literally DEEPEST LORE for shit like this.
>>56893562He's not defending RBY you know
>>56893770He fights elder gods and chimeric abomonations and shit, but it's still presented kid friendly. Like you're not gonna see blood, a corpse that's not a skeleton, or a titty
>>56893798Gio isn't comically evil. He'd never attempt to murder his son in any circumstance and in RGBY he's willing to disband Team Rocket after his grudge match with Red.
>>56893742Splatoon is about a racial war with a post-apocalyptic world where a race was used as cannon fodder for a psycho AI. Metroid also deals with space horror. And Kirby fought lovecraftnian gods.What do you want? Mario with a shotgun?
>>56893811Shit, Splatoon's the same, the lore starts with humans wiping themselves out with nukes and where we last left off, a mutant bear had tried to force everything alive on earth to forcibly turn everything into mammalian fuzzy ooze things. All packaged in a neon-bright, kid-friendly multiplayer shooter.
>>56893831>He'd never attempt to murder his son in any circumstance and in RGBY he's willing to disband Team Rocket after his grudge match with Red.Just like a Saturday morning villain.
>>56893811Weirdly enough blood shows up in kirby all the time.
>>56893844>Mario with a shotgun?Well, now you've said it... Fuck, EVERYONE does a zombie game at some stage, I'd probably play a mario game for the first time since 6 Golden Coins if it was Super Mario Bros.: Zombie Uprising
>>56893831That's because he's a comedic villain, killing is too far for comedic villains as is any form of emotional manipulation and abuse unless it comes in the form of a mind control helmet or something.
>>56893844>What do you want? Mario with a shotgun?I'd kinda like some entries to go just a little harder like the GameCube era. Mario getting framed for eco terrorism, a town of thugs with a pianta mafia centered around a gallows, Mario getting kidnapped by ghosts, a gang that steals Pokemon getting their base blown up, Eggman's grandfather getting executed by firing squad of a corrupt military organization after creating an ultimate lifeform using alien demon DNA. Just a little less sterilized than what the main series has to offer. At least having an antagonist would help unlike Sword and Shield which had no antagonist at all.
>>56893850>Just like a Saturday morning villain.Remove the second half and you'd be right :)
>>56893940So you want comedic violence.
>>56893958That doesn't even make sense.
>>56893958Just like a Saturday?
>>56893964As in anything you've said so far to defend Mr. Dennis? >>56893973You're even slower than the other guy
>>56889731>>56892888Hello Gen X, College Humor and TFS will always be dog shit.
>>56893959I want the idiot responsible for hugbox "antagonists" like Team Yell and Team Star to lose his job.
>>56893996SA2 was written by a GenXer ;)
>>56894002>antagonistsIt's almost like they're not.
>>56893987Seriously what the fuck are you talking about?
>>56894009Then why are they calling themselves a team? Both of those games just have no antagonism at all because sterilized PG hugboxes. Rose is a fucking retard developer afterthought and doesn't count for anything.
>>56894061Because GameFreak refuses to let go of an old tradition from gen 1, even though the franchise no longer has a place for evil teams due to how globohomo sanitized it is.You WILL continue to get "subversive" teams that aren't actually the bad guys and you'll fucking like it.
>>56891870-the DBS manga has blood and gore-the SDBH manga is just as sketchy and edgy as PokeSpe-Toei keep the blood at minimum because of Fuji TV, they even did the same thing with Daima's first episode DESPITE having a late time slot.
>>56894114>mangasGeared towards the shonen demographic, not toddlers.
>>56894130Even the One Piece anime has blood/gore, and we just got past the Imu episode where we see Saint Charloss get hammered into a pulp.
>>56893684Ghetsis was always in it for power. What makes BW2 different is that not only is he no longer hiding it, since his plans were thwarted last time and he wasn't able to kill everyone to hide the evidence, but that previous defeat made him even more unhinged, due to his ego.
Currently reading XY and one of the team flare straight up said go throw Clemont in the incinerator, also the honedge tried to kill lots of people so far, and of course there is violence against humans too.Even human x human violence like Ghetsis beating the fuck of N
>>56893811>Like you're not gonna see blood, a corpse that's not a skeleton, or a tittyYou fool. You absolute buffoon. I'm a certified Kirby autist.>Dream Land 2Red Canyon has a level where blocks are arranged to resemble a smiling naked woman. I think it's level 5.>Dream Land 3Game is infamous for 0 (Zero), who has an attack where he slits himself to fire blood at you, for ripping his own eye out in a gory fashion just to have one last shot at taking you down when initially defeated, for bleeding every time he's hit in his second form, and when defeated, sprays blood everywhere before exploding.>Kirby 64The true final boss, 02, bleeds every time you shoot him in the eye. His wings are also coated in blood. Both of these are confirmed by art shown in the credits.>Triple DeluxeBoth Dark Meta Knight and Shadow Dedede produce blood at specific points during their boss fights: DMK when switching to his second phase, and Shadow Dedede when his belly splits open and turns into a mouth. Also, Soul of Sectonia is essentially an animate corpse that wants to die so she'll finally be at peace (more overt in Japanese).>Planet RobobotStar Dream Soul OS "bleeds" at the start of the fight. This one's kinda cheating, since as a machine it's likely just oil, but the intent is there.>Star AlliesVoid Termina constantly drops blood from the ceiling in his second phase. Also, while not something you brought up, Hyness performs a ritual sacrifice using himself and the Jambastian Mages to revive Void Termina.
>>56893811>Like you're not gonna see bloodAnon there’s a reoccurring boss who bleeds. >a corpseEh, the Soul form bosses tend to be corpses. It’s excused because they’re cute little guys but we do see Marx’s yellowed, glassy-eyed corpse in a cutscene before he’s reborn.
>>56893766>They're outright not evil.>neglecting your only son for all of his life is not evil>letting extremely aggressive dinosaurs/robots who can easily kill humans run rampant in Paldea is not evil>making sure that the machine who transports said creatures to Paldea cannot be shut down is not evilAll right buddy.
Nice "edgy violence", dumbassNow check this out
>>56889725Very limited availability and appeal outside of Japan. Japan as you may guess has much different sensibilities than western countries - Pokemon Adventures is published in manga magazine directed towards elementary/middle school boys.
>>56894027Want me to pay for your lobotomy? >>56894061"Team" doesn't inherently have a negative connotation.
>>56896030>having a mental breakdown after your partner left you with a baby makes you evil.Alright, buddy.
>>56889731>EdgyKino. More edge = SOVL , less edge = soulless gaycore
>>56895451>Even human x human violence like Ghetsis beating the fuck of NHaven't you heard? That's too PG and comedic.
>>56896253"dan" from the Japanese name kind of has that connotation. There's no point in calling yourself a team or a gang if the grandest aim you'll ever organize to achieve is be a disorderly football fan or cut class. You can do those things easier without an organization and uniform desu. They learned the wrong lesson from Team Skull who did the fakeout gang concept properly and forgot that SM still had Lusamine and Aether to pick up the slack when greater conflict was needed to provide a climactic narrative.
>>56896388That's headcanon.
>>56897049>outlined in the journals>headcanon
>>56897119Please show us the part where it said they had a mental breakdown anon.
>>56889725Parents will often watch shows with their children, or glance at the cards they’re playing with, but not as often read what they’re reading. My parents always figured if I was reading, I must be learning, so they never checked my books.
>>56897216>I need more people. More time. That man walked out not long after the boy was born.>I need another set of hands, but could they be trusted? And how long would it take them to even understand?If you're that anon who thinks that they literally need to write >I'M LITERALLY HAVING A MENTAL BREAK DOWN RIGHT NOWthen you need to be shot between the eyes like a rabid dog.
>>56898316Absolutely nothing in these text even implies that their mental health went to shit. It's purely your headcanon.
>>56898316Anon only mentions that he wants help for his invention that's why he created the sada robot
>>56898316How much do you want to bet that they're also imaginationfags
>>56898439Anon the text only doesn't say why I think robot sada aren't you that retarded they think lillie clothing is based on nihilego although nothing game says that
>>56898454Brilliant English skills on display there anon.>they think lillie clothing is based on nihilego although nothing game says thatAfter this post I definitely do think you're that retarded.
>>56893399 #>They've never blown a hole in a civilian's houseGuerrero, they blew up a house with a rocket, granted you could argue it was less than the half of the house still standing but a hole is a hole>They've never taken over a building for obvious reasonsChiapas they took over CFE building while making a hit on one of the managers for daring to cut their electricity>And no old man has lectured the cartel, you're confusing that for Alejo Garza Tamez who basically turned every window of his house into armored turrets and fucking diedHe was one of the first to stand up and fight, the fact that an old man went down fighting is respected, in Mexico you don't lecture you go for the throat, chalk it up to cultural differences
>>56898336The fact that everyone ignores my post says enough. Again, absolutely nothing there implies that they're having a breakdown. They calmly describe their situation and problems.
>>56898495Then you'll just throw a tantrum. The others couldn't work or be as efficient working with machines as her husband who left her in the middle of her work, that's sad, angry idiot, not what you got out of your ass
>>56898551>>56898495It's literally not canon that Lillie's clothes are based on silly nihilego
>>56898580This has nothing to do with the conversation, fuck off.
