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>>56906640it's not fair
I'd probably consider LGPE a sidegrade, honestly.
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isn't bdsp just an uglier dp
>>56906640>>56906659These remakes is more than DPfags deserve
>>56906684im gonna dp your mom you fat nigger
Legends: Arceus was the DP remake though>buh-buh-buh#Yeah, that's the point. Game Freak are finally finished with making remakes. They'll still get made, don't get me wrong but Game Freak won't be shackled to them any longer. Which is why they re-purposed the basic story of DP, after culling out all the modern-day concessions and re-used the DP protag to further hammer the relationship home.
Where does Arceus fit on the line? It's a garbage alpha test and the reason BDSP turned out the way it did.
>>56906720Legends: Arceus is fucking awful and only shit out as a tech demo because GameFreak can't do remakes like they did in the handheld era.
>>56906672Golden. Era.Golden.ERA!
>>56906720>remake>can’t walk around sinnoh in 3dnah more like a spinoff
>>56906640FRLG are worse than ORAS you can already play RBY on the GBA
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>>56906741I think the idea was to bridge the gap between GB and GBA trading. The remake was secondary to catching them all. But then it sold well, and they made one for Gen 2, and before you knew it, we had a pattern of unwanted remakes.Resources that could have just gone into the main games.
>>56906721They announced L: A as a new direction for the series dude. It's its own separate set of games within the overall series (as evidenced by both L: A and BDSP not replacing SS as the VGC qualifing games of the Gen), thus doesn't qulaify for a ranking of remakes, given it's not a remake even if it had remake elements (villain looking to disrupt the natural order of the universe, protag from DP).
>Kusaka didn't write a BDSP or Hisui arc for Pokemon Adventures>Awful demakes outsourced to people that never released a game before who refused to update or modernize anything that wasn't basic QoL stuff (first time that was ever done)>The 'REAL' revisit is an ugly ball chucking tech demo on maps that belong in Majora's Mask with 95% of the mechanics from the mainline gutted or removed>Apart from the hideous Hisui variants of Dialga and Palkia, no Gen 4 pokemon received any gimmicks or new forms forms >Both PLA and BDSP have no online connectivity to the other games aside from Mystery Gifts and Home supportWhy did Sinnoh get so fucked over?
>>56906760They should have had all the johto Pokemon in Hoenn instead of spiting in between the 2 gamecube games and FRLG
>>56906761that's gay then. legends is sucked and a total waste of a revisit if someone was expecting a good remake
>>56906756L:A should be under mistake too
>>56906734L: A is the best thing they released in the first 25 years of the series history dude. As well as being the first time since Tajiri was calling the shots they created something original.
>>56906739You can keep shouting that all you want. As long as it still gets listed here, it'll never be what you're saying.
>>56906803bait used to be believable
>>56906796It's the best Pokemon Switch game, though. That should count for something.Also, PLA is not a remake, it's a spin-off.
>>56906803kek god no, it's a middling shitty beta test with too much removed so gamefreak can test new catching methods (the most boring fucking shit in pokemon games). fuck off retard
>>56906823I really couldn’t care. The game is still shit and shouldn’t have taken the place of a remake
>>56906823PLA is so fucking boring and the game has so many issues its not even funny The only thing good about it is the music because its a remix of good old DS music but they even fuck that up with the encounters
>>56906771Wow, it's almost as if Nintendo wanted to promote the game cube and tried to use kids and Pokémon to do so.They had events ready to run to allow you to catch Johto pokémon in FRLG, but strangely didn't add them, instead having to cater to a set of games they in no way recognised as legitimate because it was home hardware.
>>56906833It didn't though. BDSP were still made, as garbage as they were, they exist and are the remakes we got.>>56906836I'm not arguing away anything wrong with it, I'm just stating the fact that it is the best pokemon game 'on the switch'. Unless PL:ZA is better.Or we get older games on the Virtual Console, then technically those are 'on the switch'.
>>56906861>PLA is the best switch pokemon gameehhh sword and shield had a batter tower
>>56906861Lmao you said it yourself, dumbfuck .>>56906720 BDSP isn’t a remake either; more like aa asset flip rushed out in 1.5 years by a no name studio so GF could shit out a dogshit tech demo.
>>56906826You say too much removed, I say an era prior to the mass adoption of trainer battles and league structures. Garchomp doesn't need eufwake to hunt and feed, earth power and its movement does just as well. There's no great diversity of movesets, because in the natural environs, unimpacted by human interactions, they don't need to be am vewy bestest like no pogyemans ever wuz, because there aren't trainers looking for that extra edge to rise above being a shitty with cannon fodder for them to bond with and WANT to suddenly find that level above, to try to strengthen an attack and ultimately devise something completely new. The whole thing was presented as NOT the rehashed RG shite the series has always been and for the better, because it expands the scope beyond "8 plot tokens/18 plot tokens (need all 18 medals to progress SV to completion), evil team, catch the box legend, done" template. And frankly, I've been WANTING less RG retreads and more of that kind of shit. Remakes were old by HGSS and even that got remade to bring Johto to the transfer system. Hoeenbabs HAD to cry for one though, so here we are - sinnohtoddlers bitching because their remake wasn't an ORAS clone.
>>56906890yes, please tell me what "I" said.
>>56906907Yep, ORAS is better than both PLA and BDSP. Online, full dex up to Gen 6, actually a mainline game, etc. No one wants that shitty spinoff or copypaste in Unity but dumb faggots
>>56906861Tell me you don't own a Switch, without telling me you're a poor little fucker. There is no "Virtual Console" on Switch and even the emulators don't have any game Nintendo doesn't own rights to (even Banjo was originally funded by them). And Game Freak aren't giving up Pokémon series rights just so they can go up on the emulator (still had to pay to get VC editions, assuming you weren't poor and hacked your shit because entitlement). they made 15m selling a GOclone of Gen 1, why the everliving fuck do you think they'd willingly give their shit away for free when they can do some similar shit like that to the old games, sell it for full sticker price and still likely hit 15m sales outright.
>>56906914Either way, the shovelware Legends spinoff was GameFreak's shitty sinnoh "remake" and BDSP was never going to exist.
>>56906659Will ILCA ever get another run?
>>56906890Yoiu're a dumb little cunt, ain't ya?Also, if you could comprehend what I said, I said it was the DP remake, in as far as them re-using elements of DP to inform the L: A story. But it's not an ORAS-clone remake like you fuckers expected, which is the point.
>>56906956lol. why are you so mad? There's a virtual console for NES, SNES and GB with N64 and GBA for expansion pass. They add shit to it occasionally. But no, please share your schizo fan-fiction with the class.You clearly worked really hard on it.
>>56906979But it's not a remake faggot, it's low detail, empty, lifeless, gutted garbage, with a boring focus no catching pokemon in retarded ways.
>>56906920Sorry kid, but I can't agree, because the first half of your "bekuze" is irrelevant to me and the last is flat-out wrong.And by the very fact BDSP and L: A sold 15m (with L: A breaking the record for fastest-selling Switch title on launch) shows people very much DID want the look into Sinnoh's past along with the remaster.
>Leaks confirm that they didn't want to remake Sinnoh>Arceus was used as a "foundation" and experiment for future gamesSo what are the odds of getting an actual modern Sinnoh game? Is it just shelved from now on?
>>56906640ORASfags are so delusional.
>>56907015>And by the very fact BDSP and L: A sold 15mthat's not impressive on the switch. ORAS selling 14.5 million on a handheld with a much smaller userbase is
>>56906990They don't add Pokémon games son. In fact, they're actually more invested in getting a 30% publisher's cut of a full-price title of a new pokémon game than they are paying Game Freak yet more money for the privilege of trying to glean NSO subs. there's also the elephant in the room of no-one bought them on VC, why do you think people would play them on VC, when the series is constantly releasing new games? Unless (You)'re just looking an excuse to buy NSO.
>>56907014>in as far as them re-using elements of DP to inform the L: A storyYep, dumb little cunt. Not repeating myself, so I'll just quote it at you until you understand it.
>>56907016You got it in BDSP, a Sinnoh playable on modern hardware. If you mean "will we ever get the ORAS-clone remake I wunted", no. They've finally broken themselves from that ethos but since hoennbabs HAD to get a remake, they forced the trope on the rest you afterbirths as Game Freak roped in the whos to make BDSP. Meaning when DBVW time rolls around, we'll get something original and different from Game Freak and another ILCA-made recreation of Gen 5.
>>56907078Nope, that's not a remake especially not when the rest of the game is exponentially shittier and different.>>56907091>You got it in BDSPStopped reading there
legends sucked as a game and cus it made bdsm turn out like it did
>>56907047The two are one and the same, you dumb little cunt. The numbers stay the same, regardless what the consoles do, but on Switch 15m doesn't chart, on 3DS 14.5 is top 4 and given the other two were 16.xxm sellers, prove most people who bought a 3DS did so to play kids games or to give to a child. More than just kiddy game playing adults bought Switch, meaning there's an actual diversity of games in the highest seller positions.
>>56906967Honestly if Game Freak doesn't actively sabotage them again, I wouldn't mind seeing them get a proper shot.
>>56907043can't be more delusional than boomerfag having a melty itt
>>56907099>in as far as them re-using elements of DP to inform the L: A storyStill not getting it. And tough shit, haven't the last 15 years told you who Game Freak give a fuck about? Winter '21/'22 was when they made it blatant. They care about us oldfags who still hold that little spark of joy in their souls and kids who are going to be the focus of the next few years. Everyone else can get fucked.
>>56907127K, game is still terrible and not a remake.
>>56907119How so anon? They're not going to get more than what Game Freak took to shit out ORAS and even then, that was only about 2 years, even with surprising Ohmori with the project as a concern.And Nintendo won't pay them for anything more than what Game Freak can do it in, because why should it cost more or get more development time, when it's clearly meant to be checking a box Game Freak no longer want to bother checking.
>>56907136Didn't say it was though. But it's Game Freak's idea of one now, raiding their past canon for ideas to make new games out of (and ultimately a better use of their time than continuing a trope that was done with HGSS, but kiddy bastards couldn't accept).
Why are you so angry
>>56907169K, and if GameFreak's idea of one now is a shitty safari zone catching simulator in ugly flat fields, then they really went downhill.
>>56906640>the "better" it gets the more the game flops
genwar thread
>>56907209None of those games flopped, and BDSP/LGPE are by far the worst selling ones relative to the console they were released on.
>>56906720>another retard who think akari and rei are Dawn and Lucaswhy do plashills never play the fucking game?
>>56906640swap ORAS and HGSS
>thread about remakes>plafags enter the thread and try forcefully showing their spinoff alongside themeverysingletime
>>56907271Anon, the game starts with the player in modern garb, indicating they are not from Hisui's era. That completing L: A and proving himself worthy of meeting God's pokémon avatar sees Lucas receive the Azure Flute in BDSP, to ascend the stairs of the Hall of Origin to meet God's avatar just confirms it. Hell, even the wevbsite confirmed that, by saying if you played as the boy, you'd travel with the professor's assistant Akari (a girl who looks like Professor Rowan's assistant Dawn) and if you played as the girl, the professor's assistant would be Rei (a boy who looked like Lucas, the professor's assistant if DP/BDSP was played as a girl)I get it, time travel confuse munkey brian. That's why there's people like me here to think for the ones who can't. Lucas in L: A was about 5 years older than Lucas in BDSP because like the Hero of Time, he had to grow older to be fully unleashed to salvage humanity.
>>56906640>Bland DS remakes make original 8-bit charm obsoleteBiggest retarded lie ever told
>>56907091BDSP can’t be the “modern” Sinnoh game when PLA has stuff like ancestors to Battle Frontier brains who are missing in BDSP.
>>56906640I don't get why with HGSS they had the balls to add a lot of stuff like the pokeathlon and the pokewalker, but they couldn't be assed to improve the gym leader teams or the level curve even in any significant wayThey also lock some Jhoto pokemons behind the kanto post game which was always retardedStill easily my favorites games
>>56907417HGSS went out of it's way to mitigate some of the Pokemon availability stuff, although it's mostly a Slugma egg you have to get in a weird way. As for the balance it was bad in the easy way that's probably fine for a game targeted at children, so they didn't feel the need to fix it unlike if it were a Dragon Quest 2 situation where the endgame was jut fucked. Technically gym leader rematches and an actual upgrade to the E4 should help with catching up underleveled Pokemon for Red, but given how fucky getting the former can be it barely helps. Low levels are okay for lore but unfortunately not great gameplay wise, especially when it extends to some of the new encounters added in HGSS.
>>56907415But it is, cope. They're allowed to reference their lore (shit, Anabel was a post-game NPC who though suffering loss of memory references her time as the Salon Maiden by commenting on her feelings of nostalgia while in the Battle Tree) and that was a nod to the fans. But BDSP by definition IS Sinnoh playable on modern hardware. Not as if a Game Freak remake would have added the BF anyway (the battle frontier project has started!, remember? Because the new Gen pairs didn't have the RNG halls).
