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>>56907337>>56907331Poison keks...
buff gengar
NERF PIKACHU
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>>56907377haunter should do 20 or 30 dmg and sleep frlwhole line is so weak
>run into Mewtwo deck>one shot Mewtwo for 160 damage>guy brings out Gardevoir>one shot her tooI LOOOOOOVE GAMBLING
>>56907361>articuno ex 52% win ratebased coin flippers
>>56907389UNGA ME THROW BONE
>>56907361i have fucking zero of these decks
>>56907361The new raichu tech is insane, 140 damage slap after swapping out your pikaexbusted shit
>>56907361I've seen people try to post "ummm actually starmie ex isn't that good, haven't you looked at the tournaments?"
>>56907361Nope, pika isn't op, it's just usually played by intelligent people who like the deck for it's overall consistency (as opposed to only retards playing mewtwo)
>>56907361Articuno having a positive win rate is disgusting.
>>56907361I was wondering why mewtwo was so low, it has the most enters out of every deck there 23% of the players compared to pika 9%No wonder there isn't more fighting decks entered, there's too many mewtwos killing them off before they run into Pikachu kek
>>56907407its the most braindead retarded deck bruh at least with mewtwo you have to think a little if you dont get gard quick
>>56907361I feel that I've made a huge mistake exclusively opening mewtwo packs after seeing this.
>>56907361>Dragonite not even on the listits over
>>56907361Tournament meta =/= ladder meta btw, play what you like and if you aren't shit you'll climb eventually
>>56907361>Highest fire deck is ArcanineTHEY ALL CALLED HIM THE WEAKEST EX. NOW WHAT SAY YOU?
>>56907389Cool, I got double tails 3 times in a row the one game I played her.
>took 3 tries but nidos somehow beat fighting deckGG's my dude
>>56907444>>56907389I beat a marowak netdecker with my dogshit dragonite deck, that had both oaks and dragonites as the bottom 4 cards in my deck, he rolled 3x tails THREE different times
>>56907421kek, kinda same, I'm 29 packs in and questioning if I should start opening some rat packs for variety's sake at least.
>>56907322>no letterCome on, anon. Do betterhttps://x.com/PokemonTCGP/status/1856819952713453683
>playing Misty deck>"if I get 3 heads Misty will make out with my sister and force me to watch>get 3 headsFucking slut
>>56907442it's weird how much bad rep it gets while having a good matchup against pikachu
>>56907413Mewtwo needs that setup and it's hard to come back when the opponent starts dishing out 90 starting turn 2
>>56907458the one time I saw arcanine used in a tourney it killed itself and then lost the match
Whoever recommended the arbok/pidgeot deckFUCK YOUevery opponent can turn 1 basic EX or turn 2 stage 2 EX while the time it takes to gather pidgeot and arbok can take 10 turns or more. And then the ability doesnt do shit for when the opponent has 3 benched mons with 1 retreat cost, defeating the whole purpose of being able to move themThe only thing that can stop a EX turn 1 or turn 2 is energy removal but the goddamn game isnt balanced for that
>you have to skip through like 5 different animations every time you get a new cardfucking stop
>>56907361>mewtwo at 50%>literally wins or loses based on initial coin fliplmao Fuck you and your helmet deck. Mewtwo is (sadly) the most boring thing to play against, and it’s fucking everywhere.
>>56907442Arcanine got glow-up when most figure out that it's a PITA to get a Charizard deck going while you can start throwing punches with Arcanine as early as turn 2
Running a fire deck in: vpnxNo coin flips no ex no dragoniteNidobro I felt bad running type advantageAlso I should have saved that giovani
>>56907449post list
>collect/achieve everything I want until next drop>start conceding turn 3 in pvp to give away winscommunity service
>>56907483>Running a fire deckdid you steal my fire deck
>>56907466yeah weezing with arbok is faster. also I don't think you need to be gusting that often anyways. two sabrinas will be more than enough.
>>56907488I just play my solo Slowpoke deck. Sometimes they even concede.
>>56907499It would help if i could choose the pokemon
THAT IS ITCURSE LAPLAPIM BUILDING A PIKA DECK
>>56907498Nah it’s just a junker with a charizard and rapidash, though, if that’s what your deck was, I’m sorry
Will the chansey pick come back?I dont see how one would be able to get 10 meowths for all the flair before it leaves
theres no ranked ladder in this game?
>>56907485Not him, but I think he’s onto something. I’ve been running a very competitive pikachu deck, and the mewtwo matchup is a pain in the ass if I have to go first. If I go first and my opponent opens with two mewtwo ex, the game is effectively over. I’m starting to think raichu may be the most viable build for pikachu decks, but that still runs into the issue of needing gio / surge plays.People are still figuring the meta out.
>>56907525Pay up, piggy
>>56907361>tfw Marowak positive personal winrateGuess I am lucky.
>>56907361>Made a Mewtwo deck>got the entire Pika deck a day after making itKek guess i'll switch to the rat
>>56907533What's the decklist for Raichu?
>>56907533I should've been more clear, I do actually want to see the list.
>>56907553spent 5 minutes thinking about it and then ask again
>>56907559>thinking
I put surges into my deck instead of Blaine’s, need a rematch: vpnx
>>56907535nbo.....................NONONONONONOAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>56907361Charizard is severely, severely undervalued due to shit players who don't understand stall and probably filled their decks with garbage like Centiskorch and Heatmor instead of Rapidash, and then concede when they miss a couple of coin flips. Big deal. I use it exclusively and my winrate is probably around 80%, and I only have one Moltres ex. I can hold my own without ever drawing the damn bird. Rapidash can take one shot of full power Pika ex, and regular Moltres can tank one hit from Starmie. I then have enough flexibility to let them both go down, or retreat them with X Speed, as long as I can keep supplying Zard with energies. The longer the game goes, the more likely it is that I have Zard on the bench already with enough energies to sweep the whole enemy team, and a number of X Speeds to counter any Sabrina plays. In essence, despite being based around coin flips, the odds are in my favor. The only real threats are Jynx and Alakazam which punish overizealous energy hoarding, and Blastoise who also relies on stalling, has type advantage and doesn't lose energy on attack.
>>56907553Haven’t ironed mine out since pulling 2 copies of zapdos ex. I’ll probably try 2 each of pikachu ex, zapdos ex, pikachu, raichu, and (maybe) pincurchin. I’m thinking pincurchin needs to be at least at 1 copy for pikachu consistency. Might try 2 copies of gio for mewtwo ohkos. Surge might be a 1 of.
>>56907553Idk about what he’s talking about, but this is what I run with 2 raichu and a single megneton with 2 pika ex and a zapdos ex, and it’s really good, let’s me stall or rush, and keep my back line full for ex’s
Metal is treating me well.Think we'll get mega evolution cards? If I could buff up Mawile somehow, then I may take it over Bisharp.
>>56907578MY SHINY MEOWY AAAAAAAAA I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE IN GETTING THEM AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>56907525There is already a better meowth with kino full art of him looking out over [place], Japan.
>>56907617oh, ok......guess i'll cope with that once I collect ten of those... somehow
Open the trading, I have so many ex duplicates and not a single fucking Blaine.
>>56907470an autoskip feature would be gigabased
>>56907601>>56907587Very similar to the counts I was trying to describe (only with magnemite over 1 copy of pincurchin and 2 surge instead of 2 gio). Should be good. My only worries are in running two different stage 1s in a deck that wants to go fast + surge being a dead card in hand. I might also run another x speed over potion.
>>56907442Just bad card evaluation in a new game. Happens all the time. Arcanine's the first pokemon you see and it reads as really bad until you know the game better. People dismiss it, never take a second look, and never think about it again.The fact that it easily goes over Pikachu and Starmie while being fast and consistent enough to go under Mewtwo and Charizard is something People naturally wouldn't notice until later. I definitely didn't.
>>56907607>Will we get mega evolution cardsDefinitely yeah.They might even try to time it to match the release of Legends Z-A for the whole 'Return of Megas' thing they're using as part of the marketing for that game.
>omastar is so shit no one uses the evo line in the misty deck even though it guarantees you get articuno on turn 1
>>56907607>end turns on MegaIs it really worth it to skip an attack?
>>56907585I think it's really funny that Charizard beats Venu and Blastoise "beats" Charizard, but Venu doesn't beat Blastoise.
>>56907659>6 card slotsJust because they can't attack doesn't mean they can't just switch out
>>56907644Surge and raichu are needed for hot swapping to and then surging and you can do that 2 turns in a row insulated if you wait to gen with magnetite on the turn you surge. That’s how you mainly take out the big problems I’ve noticed. Pikachu EX can’t really handle them unless he’s got the speed advantage. That deck could also use another x speed and I only have 1 magnetite still, I’d like to be running 2 with raichu.
>>56907466this, i have a bunch of ex mons so i've been playing blain only but got tired and decided to play this shit. either im always bricking or my opponend ex mons have so much hp for my amazing 60 damage arbok
>>56907673>6 card slotsthat's the point, isn't it?
>>56907466Most of the niche decks, especially ones requiring stage 2 require your opponent to do nothing to work, so I don't know why you are surprised at all
>>56907687That's not a squid, anon. That's a birb
>>56907700yes but the concept is the same>mulligan guarantees articuno because you aren't running any other basics>2 pokeballs only hit your other articuno>actually have a backup revenge attacker for 1 energy if things go bad
>get bad hand and draw>just concede turn 3 and jump to the next gameit's faster this way.
>>56907669I actually managed to lose a game to Venusaur once but I've only seen that deck used that one time, so I can't assess whether that was bad play on my part, bad luck, or did it actually have an advantage. Charizard beats water decks like Lapras and Articuno pretty easily if stalled properly. It's just that Blastoise is the only thing in the game that can one shot the ultimate one shotter, Charizard.
>>56907451>he rolled 3x tails THREE different timesThat might have legitimately been me.>marowak netdeckerWhy do you feel the need to put "netdecker" here? Marowak is a mid tier deck at best, it's just kinda fun for the lulz. Also, this game has 20 fucking cards in the deck. You just put 2 Pokemon lines, maybe 3, into a deck, and then you add Sabrina and Giovanni, or Misty if it's water. That's literally every single deck. 2 or 3 Pokemon and then trainers. "Netdecking" cannot even possibly be a thing in this game. You could just use your 2 favorite Pokemon in a deck and accidentally "netdeck" by your standards.
>>56907711Aerodatcyl only occupies 3 slots at most. That's why most decks have been teching in it and Amber Fossil for chance to win that coinflip
>>56907737yeah but that guy is wasting slots on double red card double scope cause he's specifically trying fill his deck with crap that isn't articuno, not because >scope is good
wonder picks are so useless
>>56907466I run that deck and I mentioned here before, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you wanna fuck around and get funny meme wins. It might be better with rare candy or something, I dunno.
>>56907759Wonder Picks should recharge faster
>>56907585Guess I should post the deck. Regular Moltres is a necessity in my case, but there are upsides to using it instead of the second Moltres ex.For one, it's only 1 retreat cost instead of ex's 2, so I can scoop it up from active with X Speed without spending that turn's energy, which could be crucial to powering up Charizard.Second, 100 HP is usually enough to withstand the same number of hits Moltres ex would've. From my experience few people run Starmie ex with Giovanni, but I could be wrong.Third, regular Moltres awards only one point so it can be sacrificed to buy more time for Charizard.Basically, stalling is a viable alternative to having increased chances of drawing Moltres ex, whose role is just to wall and give energies to Zard. Obviously, the earlier Moltres ex is drawn the better the odds of winning the match, but it doesn't need to be relied on.Oh, and FUCK RED CARDS. But you guys are obviously welcome to use them and unbrick my hand.
LETS FUCKING GO NOW I ONLY NEED 1 CHARIZARD EX1 MOLTRES EX2 CHARMELEON1 CHARMANDER2 SABRINAWE ARE SO IN THERE
>>56907783>2 charmeleonI hope you get them before the year ends
>>56907783Fire event is coming up in a week or so so you have a good chance.
>corner someone's ex pokemon with Arbok and put them in a lose-lose situation no matter what they>watch them panic as they try to figure a way out but they eventually concede god, I've had more fun with Arbok than any of the big flashy ex pokemon I have
>>56907361Pidgeot Arbok is an honorable deck
The event Mankey is a beast. I'm straight RAPING all these meta game weezing fags. And of course the pussies rage quit instead of playing to conclusion.
>>56907361>>56907816Pidgeot ArbokThat's all, folks!
>>56907783That deck is already obsolete.
>>56907778I have 1 moltresex from wonder pick. Haven't pulled any char packs but I might try and make a centiscorch varient. He's basically budget charizard.
>just won a kino match where I got 0 energy from 2 Moltres EX coinflips while staring at a field of 2 Gardevoir and 2 Mewtwo EXThat was fun.
I lied about getting full art Japanese Sabrina earlier.
Incredible how watered-down and babyfied Pocket is.
>>56907828>rage quitIt's just faster, bro. Conceding means that you are aware enough to know that you can no longer win, and it's a sign of respect to not waste everyone's time playing it out. The true rage quit is when they just AFK and it says "waiting for opponent to reconnect" until the timer runs out, and then you're left there still needing to play out the game while their timer counts down.
how come there's no ingame messaging in this game, i want to call the coinflip relying fag a tranny
>>56907847>i want to call the coinflip relying fag a trannythis is why there's no in-game messaging
>>56907841Pocket is much better. This is the way the TCG was always meant to be played.
>>56907841I'm hoping they won't keep this "only EX get 2 moves" policy for too long.
>>56907407Pikachu is literally this game's baby aggro deck. Then they fuck it up by making stall options really weak. We have Sabrina at best for disruption and stall.
is there a pidgeot deck other than arbok pidgeot
>>56907629Trading and how they implement it will be the make or break factor on whether or not I decide to stick with this game or delete it.Getting the cards you need is unreasonably difficult in this game. And the situation you described is exactly why. I'm sitting on a bunch of unneeded copies of full arts and ex Pokemon, but can't get many lower rarity cards I need for deck building, let alone the high rarity cards I actually want like Full Art Sabrina, Zapdos ex, the Immersive Charizard. Meanwhile, I've got like 5 full art Alakazam, and like 7 full art Glooms. And this is after 300 packs opened.This is why other games have crafting systems where you can dismantle junk. That way when you open a pack of complete garbage, or high rarity garbage, you at least get points toward being able to craft what you actually wants. Given how greedy the Pack Points system is though, I don't have a lot of confidence trading won't be some extremely Jewish crap as well.
>>56907864Somehow I didn’t even notice that. I really hope they tweak the cards a bit, and don’t just repeat what Pokémon did irl and just powercreep the hell out of it.
>>56907863Maybe if you're a 5 year old or a woman
>raichu on a wonder trade>failI'm sad now.>>56907361>Raichu focusOk, I'm curious.
I wish the cards were real and I could hold them in my hands.
>>56907828>weezing>meta>conceding = ragequittingbait or just gargantuan faggot?
>>56907887But they are
>>56907801Do we have any more details about this? Reading that previous datamined stuff about a fire event making things easier to acquire is why I haven't bought my 2 charmeleon from the store yet despite already having 2x zard and 2x tres. Hopefully I haven't wasted my time waiting.
>>56907837Centiskorch is to Charizard ex what Cinccino is to Pikachu ex, more or less. What makes Charizard so good is that it's the only card that can one-shot every other card in the game, AND can tank every attack including from Mewtwo ex, and up to two full-power strikes from Pika ex (the only things that kill it in one shot are boosted Blastoise ex and in some cases Alakazam and Jynx). Even the meme Marowak ex can't handle the almighty Zard. You could see some success with Centiskorch, it doesn't even really need Moltres ex since once it's up to four energies, it can go on as long as it's active/alive. Expect trouble from Articuno and Lapras, though.
>>56907877Yeah in Magic: Area duplicates over 4 give you a token of their rarity that can be exchanged for cards and then full art cards take like 4 tokens of their rarity or something. It works really well in that game. It seems like everything Pokémon constantly suffers from being both geared towards kids and also massively popular with adults. Like world championships have been decided by coin flips, it’s absurd af. This is why we need to keep the vpnx meta strong. Refuse coin flips, refuse EX cards, the more people that do, the more difference it will make.
>>56907864I didn't connect that it's EX only, just that it's very limited.I doubt it'll stick though, you already have Abilities on non-EX and even non-fully evolved mons.Just a way to ease newbies to the game, really.
>look at some of the teams on the pocket tracker website>read up on a primeape+kabutops team>oh that sounds neat>immediately run into one online>know the strats and how to counter playGet fucked BrendanFrasier
>>56907322So is Pokepoke going to be like Standard where they rotate cards after 2 years? Or will it take the Yugioh approach and let you use any card that has ever been released? Also they need to hurry up and release more expansions fast, Pocket feels too shallow to be entertaining…
>>56907913>>know the strats and how to counter play...this game has pretty much the least amount of strategy that a card game could possibly have.
>>56907879Pikachu and Starmie are already so obscene. Immense power creep is the only way forward.
>irl TCGs>It's standard to concede when you see an unwinnable boardstate instead of having them go through the motions of going about their turn >Somehow people think it's ragequitting if people do it onlineI don't get it. It's also faster for people to go about their turns irl than in this game and even then people just concede.
>>56907837Centiskorch is just a regular Charizard downgrade. If you're missing Charizard EXs, just run Charizard(regular one), Fire Blast does 150 damage which is the sweet spot for one shotting the meta EX. You also won't dilute your PokeBall tutors with another basic card.
>>56907901https://pocket.codex.gg/missions/?schedule=SC_EV_0002010_MI_03I woke up I found it that's all I know
>play a non-meta deck for fun>opponent Gets 4 heads in a row with an Aerodactyl im going back to pikachu
>>56907922>>56907893You got somewhere to be? Play to completion nd take your beating like a good boy.
>>56907922I think it's just a mixture of underageb&, third worlders, and chronic shitposters who have that disposition themselves and project it onto others.
>>56907877This game lives and dies on the trading system and how they handle new sets coming in. If they fuck up either then Pocket is gonna find itself having the Duel Links problem, where picking the game up late feels like utter dogshit because it's hard to get your hands on any cards outside of whatever the current focused packs are. Imagine someone joins in January and they have to come back to GA to hard-pull Pikachu Wonder pick as a system will get worse too if we have to split our attention across packs, come to think of it
>>56907922I’d argue that it’s bad etiquette in locals and in funsies, unless you don’t have time or simply have an issue with the person / their deck. Online play is closer to that than a bigger tournament.
>>56907943Duel Links real problem is nearly all of the monsters suck and no one has any attachment to any of them unlike Pokemon.
>>56907922Almost every card game general has newfags thinking conceding is rage quit. That's because the newfags lack the game sense to realize if they still have an out, so they relate concede to rage quit.
>>56907922Unironically just zoomzooms playing their first TCG
>>56907960>the newfags lack the game sense to realize if they still have an outPeople routinely scoop way too early in online play. The lack of game sense cuts both ways. And are we seriously pretending that people don’t get salty in games like this? lmao
>>56907879pikachu should be a 20 damage attack that does 20 more for each benched electric so that he tops out at 80. Starmie you could just drop it to 80 too. 90 HP is a big threshold for non-EX pokemon who can get online at the same speed so it'd be a significant nerf. I dunno if that's possible though. There's probably some law about nerfing something someone paid money to get.
>>56907918>Also they need to hurry up and release more expansions fast, Pocket feels too shallow to be entertaining…Lucky for you they just announce a nameless expansion coming in before the year ends.
>>56907977The people that get salty over casualized pokeTCG are actual newfags to TCGs, yeah.
>>56907977not the guy your responding to but the games are so short, and there's a decent amount of rng and coinflipping that it feels hard to get mad before the game is already over. It's not a grindfest like some formats of magic or endless combo FTK shit like yugioh. babys first TCG moves fast and feels low stakes
>>56907984In normal gacha there's not really a culture of nerfing. But in digital cardgames it's absolutely on the table.
>One shots all of Pikachu EX deck>Giovanni makes it one shot all legendary birds, Executor EX (160HP!) & Starmie Ex deckTrue meta stomper
how the fuck is Pikachu ex and raichu a good deck
>>56908002Agreed. I can't fathom anyone conceding out of salt here with how the game plays if they had any experience with YGO or Magic.
>>56907977It's still not salt though, it's being bad at the game.No one should scoop at this stage. Inexperienced players don't know when they've actually lost, and inexperienced players will make misplays when they should've won, so even good players shouldn't scoop.
>>56908007I've tried running this thing without moltres and it's suffering to get it up and running.
>>56907863>Stage 2s viable>Basic Energy don't take up deck space>ex as the only rule box cards, no GX-Star-Ace Spec-Shining (yet)>No deck search cards, only RNG card grabbers in Professor and Pokéball>Supporters not as potent as main TCG counterparts (Draw 2 vs. 3 or you choose the opponent's new basic).I even think you could get away with a 30-card, 6-prize format (keeping the 2x card restriction).You could even bump the bench size to 5 in that mode if Do The Wave/Circle Circuit drop to 20 damage per benched mon.
So what's the most fun deck? I've played Mewtwo, Pikachu, and Marowak. I wanted to like Marowak, but it's too flippy, and I think I like Mewtwo more than Pika
>>56907984>There's probably some law about nerfing something someone paid money to get.There isn't, but it's a popular misconception that they're not allowed to. The reality is that it's just very rare for a gacha to make balance adjustments because it can set a bad precedent and discourage people from rolling for strong characters/cards in the future.
>>56907940Everyone has somewhere to be, anon. Sorry they don't want to devote 30 more of their seconds of life to you
>>56908007And if you don't go over four energies, Alakazam can't kill it without Giovanni. It also awards only one point. Charizard is still preferable but it's a good alternative if you're on a budget or need to clear some of those missions in solo.
>>56908032>I think I like the strongest meta deckyeah you and everyone else bud.
>>56908043I'm asking what the most fun deck is because I probably have enough pack points to buy it if it isn't Mewtwo or Pikachu.
>>56908032Dragonite, because you can get double or triple or quadruple kills and it is hilarious when it happens.
i play pikachu because i like to win
>>56908033>they're going to fuck it upDROPPED! So glad I didn't paypig this shit game.
>>56907999>>56908002I’m with you. The only thing that has gotten under my skin so far has been bad luck with the initial coin flip in the pvp event. I’ve heard the matchmaking gets tougher as you progress, and that seems to be true based on my experience. So when I have a play session where 5/6 games have me going first against nothing but mewtwo / pika decks, that rng starts to teeter on the line of funny and annoying. Even worse when I manage to brick on top of it all. Makes for long, difficult games.
>>56908053Double hypno on any psychic deck. Forces an obnoxious amount of coinflips to your opponent.
>>56908058seething mistycuck
>>56908009Pikachu kill everything, if Pikachu can't kill it Raichu kill it.
>>56908033Thank you, it's so rare for people to actually point out that no, there is no laws for this shit.
>>56908032I like Arbok/Weezing, just because it's hilarious when something like a Zapdos gets stuck in the active position and just has to sit there until it dies.
I'm too nervous to play real people. I hope they ass more solo missions.
>>56908099just play in the normal queue instead of the event one. There's plenty of people in there with suboptimal stuff who don't remember weezing can attack besides applying poison.
>>56908085I'm running it too, but I also have a 1-1 Muk. I'm conflicted about it because it's not terribly useful a lot of times, but sometimes I surprise my opponents that take out my Wheezing by throwing out a grimer and evoing him to nuke them. Sometimes holding back the evo can make a nice jumpscare.
>>56908040It's a lot easier to set up than Charizard too because it's only 1 evolution, so if you get lucky with a triple Moltres heads it's GG
>>56908102>just play in the normal queue instead of the event one.Do you only get event points in the event queue though?
>>56908033>The reality is that it's just very rare for a gacha to make balance adjustments because it can set a bad precedent and discourage people from rolling for strong characters/cards in the future.not a gacha but this happened with helldivers 2. The devs nerf based on usage stats because none of them play the game much thus the game had a pretty harsh nerf cycle. A lot of weapons were used not necessarily due to their strength but because they didn't feel like shit to use. So when new premium weapons come out and keep getting nerfed shortly after their release players stopped buying them as much. If your shit isn't even going to function the same at the end of the month why bother paying to get it faster?
>>56908099Go and play a few rounds and it'll get better.
>>56908103koga makes that deck a lot better because you can grind them down with weezing and then pull him before he dies to finish the job with grimer.
>>56908109obviously? You don't get anything for the event besides the little ribbon, it doesn't do anything.
>>56908109yes
So the nips came up with this. Are you gonna try it or remain a spot loyalist?
>>56908124Incorrect.
If Marowak is Las Vegas Bonehead what are Zapdos/Jolteon/etc's funny nicknames?
>>56908124And a big sack of stardust for 50 wins.But I think all of the pack hourglasses are just playing, no wins necessary.
>>56908129Retarded nonsense.
>>56908136You just need to participate 10 matches for the 24 hourglasses
>>56908129Fake and gay just like bent corner packs
there's koga and sabrina are the 2 trainer cards that can meaningfully change the board state so of course playing weezing is more fun
>>56908129i'm too tired of doing this schoolyard make believe bullshiti'm just gonna pick whatever
>>56908134Compulsive gamblers?
>>56907361Grasslads? H-hello?
>>56908136oh yeah you get the hourglasses for playing but you can instant concede to save time. The dust is basically useless because the game gives you so much of it and you still need the actual cards if you want to get flairs.
>>56908099I'm like you, it gets easier the more you play. Take it as a personal challenge, there is nothing on the line. The game doesn't even track losses.
>>56908153No I want them to have their own nicknames!I'm gonna call Jolteon Las Vegas Perro.
the gigaleak is finally over it seems, so now we get /ppg/ all to ourselves
>>56908129>card counting in a digital card gameis this the secret knowledge you unlock when you learn moonrunes?
>>56908129I will never abandon my allegiance to Bottom Right.It's gotten me too much good shit.
THAR SHE BLOWS
>>56908099as someone who hates ranked in games and just got to 45 wins in the event, you should not be nervous. There's no win/loss ratio, no chat, no real interaction besides the thanks you autoclick after the match ends. It's frankly the most chill versus mode I've seen in a while. They're barely better than the lapras AI and half the time their decks are worse. If my jank half complete pile can do it without much trouble, you definitly can.Just pretend you're playing against solo bots.
>>56908196How many cards total in that account?
>>56908196>level 48this guy is farming flairs for his favorite full arts, good lord.
>>56908160We don't play comp. We'll beat your meta decks in the Versus, the real jungle.
Think we'll be able to trade for chancy cards?
>>56907361WEEZINGSISTERS??? OUR RESPONSE??
>>56907361moltres arcanine is better than charizard?
The Pokemon Pocket experience.
>>56908129Nah, I've had a full art Dragonite shown in WP as bottom right, and after shuffling it stayed bottom right
>>56908175Zap and Jolteon flip too many coins to be las vegas. The gambling part only comes into play when you need to hit 3-4 flips to get a KO. Something like "The Pling Kings" would be a more apt moniker.
>>56908219Weezing's matchup against Pikachu isn't great.
>>56908111Balance is such a funny thing where it's not easy (and may be totally impossible) to get everything in a game in perfect equilibrium, but at the same times some devs are so fucking retarded and know nothing about their own games that they make it look a million times harder than it actually is to get things reasonably close. And that's not even getting started on Blizzard Balance where devs just randomly nerf and buff things not because it's going to increase the overall balance, but because regularly changing what's strong and what's weak drives engagement as people hope to get "their turn" at being King Shit.
>go first>loseHow do we fix this?
>>56908242weezing or exeggcutor ex for the turn 3 evolution and 1 energy attack
>playing for my 35th pvp event win>take turn 1>opponent plays a lone staryu>evolve blitzle on turn 3, x speed it in>game endsThat’s rough.
>>56907922I only concede if it's early in the game and I know I'll lose. Otherwise, I let my opponent enjoy winning outright.
>>56908242give energy on turn 1 but no attacking or draw.
>>56908230That's not funny though...
>>56908221I wouldn't have thought it before, but I see it.>only one evo>only needs 3 energy and can get it in one flip>120+giovanni will kill most things early>solid 150hp buffer to take the self damage and then someI would run it but I can't give up doing 200 damage
>>56908221No, it can't even one shot Mewtwo. I don't know why they keep memeing that deck. Evolution really is not that big of an issue. Unlike Mewtwo Gardevoir, you can set Charizard up before it evolves, and the longer the game, the more likely it is that it evolves. Arcanine's recoil and low HP is a problem, but you can probably set it a bit faster so impatient zoom zooms like running it more.
>>56908160It's rough out here in the grasslands>If you don't want to use a normal type your closest equivalent to a fat basic is Eggs ex (hexs good but it's entirely possible it can get kiled before evolving>Our energy acceleration is tied to a stage 1 mon and needs two energy to get going> Venusaur doesn't do big dick damage like the other two in favor of bringing in the age of fatsoAt least we have nuts healing thanks to Erika
>>56908242pack misty and your choice of EX lapras or EX articuno
>>56908129I've picked top right every single time and I've never gotten a single fucking thing I want but I'm still not going to change because I'm just going to end up seething no matter which spot I pick.
>>56907940It's a game I'm probably playing while taking a shit or on a break I'm not going to wait for you to play a bunch of cards when you could have killed my mon when the turn started. No extra points for you, slowmo.
>>56908230so why is two coins vegas then?
>>56908230Not him but "it's more coins so it doesn't count" is stupid if anything it makes MORE sense
what are all the Promo-A cards?it looks like i have all of them but theres empty spots still
>>56908318There's more promo events planned. Check the OP for the data mined events
>>56908318Missing a premium pass mewtwo, another drop event that has 5 cards and a chansey-like event with 2 cards
>>56908318turn on the missing cards toggle then go into search and go all the way to the bottom, there's another toggle there that'll show you all the missing promo cards
>>56908298>>56908312the more coins you flip the more likely you are to land somewhere in the middle. With say seaking it's all or nothing, maximum vegas. Marowak is 2 so getting double heads or double tails is very possible and the damage is big so even 1 coin can make or break a match. With Zapdos and Jolteon you will frequently get two heads, sometimes get 1 or 3, and almost never see 0 or 4, so you take that into account and usually don't end up in a situation where you're solely depending on luck.
>>56908346Stupid reasoning and you don't know how statistics work.
This is a fun deck. You should try it if you have the cards.
>>56908274both fighting and grass heavily suffer from not having a basic EXdark only survives cause it's non EXs are real good
>>56908323>>56908329>>56908339oh so the next update will still be called Promo-A?i thought it would change to promo-B
>>56908367it's promo pack A series 2
Im cumming
>>56908359What's so fun about it?
>>56908357>flip one coin to do some or no damage, flip 2 or 3 or 4wow I wonder which option gives me the highest likelyhood of some kind of return on investment. Doesn't take a stats major to figure that one out.
>>56908357He's semi right.The chances to 50/50 dont change between number of coins.What becomes less likely is hitting the edge cases.
>>56908274Liligant barely even counts as energy acceleration. It's more like a slightly stronger version of Rapidash that doesn't work going first.
>>569083821. bugs2. no ex3. fastt
>>56908387Exception single coin flip is true gameble since you have only "edge" cases.
>>56908381can't wait until they add crobat and he's not complete shit
>>56908129truck mew type of shit
>>56908398I really want to see some more tertiary evo's added. Would love if they put in steelix and scizor to flesh out metal more.
>>56908381that art is better than some ex
When you lose during the lapras event does it consume the stamina? Also this thing using a 12-hour stamina system is kinda dogshit. Everything in this game taking 12 fucking hours is dogshit in general, this is the kind of stingy shit gacha games release with then get heavily reduced when the devs realize it's far too insane.
>>56908415>When you lose during the lapras event does it consume the stamina?no
>>56908382crashing and burning, it seems
>>56908412brock could also really use onix having a useful evo instead of being ass too
6 cards left>5 of them are 2x mewtwo, 2x oak, 1x pokeball
>>56908415it doesn't, you can keep retrying till you win. >12 stamina sucksthey want you to whale. not really for the event though, that's pretty easy to get through normally unless you're desperate for that ex lapras.
>>56908428good bait
>>56908426Trust the plan.Comes Jan, people will call NERF BROCK...
>>56908437nvm all the steelix's are basicsRIP BROCK
>>56908381With a hole that big?
>>56908450brock only gives one energy anyway. They could change steelix for pocket and make him an evo
>>56908437why does pokemon love coins?
>>56907389>wizards are nerds you can easily punch
>>56908395>gets destroyed by any half competent deck of any typeIt sucks actually.
Honestly, I don't think pika needs to be nerfed. It's won percentage is so high because it mops the floor with bad decks. Mewtwo and Pika are solidly tier one IMO.
>>56908477no need for nerfs if it gets power creeps within the next main set
>>56908477does it beat bad decks or does it beat most decks that don't also get started immediately?
>>56908477I also think that Mewtwo and Pika don't need nerfed. I think they're a good baseline for top tier decks. Just print similar power level decks of other types. In doing so, there might also be better anti-meta decks created.
>>56908386"Return investment" means nothing if you don't get the kill, retard. It's also more exciting when you get 4 heads over 2 heads.
>>56908501>more likely to kill if you manage to do any damagefancy that
>>56908129This would be so much harder to build as a dev than actual random. Same as the coin flip. Fake as fuck.
>>56908474Not if you kill them first
>>56908129Top middle, like a fiddle.
>>56908477The problem is that "bad deck" means "deck that loses to a 90 damage attack on turn 2",
>>56908507Except that the coin flip both literally works, and would be harder to code to be truly random while also making it obey the flip like it does now.
>>56908032You're missing the point of the first post, my dude.>doesn't bother trying the deck>wants other people to just give them their experiences so he can skip to the finalized productI'll say it again, redditor. Try the deck for yourself. Throw whatever shit you want into the deck and find out what works. Try thinking for once. What felt good and what didn't? What slowed you down? Are there any alternatives that are faster/cheaper/stronger? What are the trade-offs? Figure this shit out instead of asking for strangers to spoonfeed you. Holy shit, how do you even enjoy the game if you don't want to play it? Are you honestly telling me that pro-players never try their own shit out and just wait for a bunch of nerds on /vp/ to theorycraft for them, Mr. "Professional TCG Cicle"?There, I even put breaks in between each sentence to help with your reading comprehension.
Are we excited for Gen 3?
>>56908506I wouldn't expect you to get it
>>56908530Do all dragon mon have stupid energy requirments?
>>56908526You're retarded. The flip animation has no bearing on the result. It would be so much harder to build that.
>>56908527Stop posting this shit
>>56908538Yes
>>56908538they be the slow endgame decks
>>56908538Yeah it's their gimmick
>>56908521Fair enough kek. It really does feel like Pika and m2 are the only playable decks.
>>56908532cynthia please stop getting eaten by the pokemon...
>>56908527>reddit spaced shitpostThis would be a great post if this was a game where everyone had every card unlocked by default. However, this is a gacha game, not everyone has every card, and some people (like me) have to pick and choose what they buy with their pack points.
>>56908538Yes. In the Pokemon TCG Dragon is a meme type that is basically just multi-color, rather than being an actual energy type of it's own.
I wanna see where they go with water types in the future. Feels like Misty would be a spectre to all future water type designs.
Thanks to whichever one of you watched my gay stream, even though I punted that one game and we lost a lot. The beginning of the stream I was 5-0 then a viewer came and I lost a ton :(
>>56908543You can literally see the flip animation. They had to code it do work the way it does, and making it somehow force itself to be heads or tails instead of just following the result the flip naturally leads to would be way harder.
>>56908557my charizard+moltres has been shitting on mewtwo decks recently but it still goes even against pika decks. not having a good starting hand really hurts against pika
>>56908571Why does everyone suddenly want to fuck Misty?
>>56908571Misty and Starmie ex are so fucning good. It's just sharticuno and Lapras ex suck
>>56908579>suddenlybeen that way since the 90's
>>56908530Not if this is the level of quality we can look forward to.These cards are fucking terrible.
>>56908571blasting all my energy into misty
>>56908586>>56908574.... Sir they just start a predetermined animation with an RNG. Are you trolling me?
>>56908538Yes. Even before the Dragon type was added, that was the gimmick Dragon Pokemon had (although they went back and forth on it a few times). They just made it an official type so they could do dragon-specific support, like Rainbow energy that only work on Dragons.
>60 damage for one energyPikafags, your response? KNEEL.
>>56908580Lapras EX has exploitable weaknesses but is a tanky guy.Dude is like water venusaur
>>56908591And yet, players can have a near 100% success rate if they know what they're doing. Curious.
>>56908577I wanna battle you. I've been doing fly well against zard with m2, but people are fucking awful, so ot doesn't mean much. Same goes for the average m2 player. This game is quite intricate.Inb4 we rehash this conversation and someone says it's le simple play chess.
>>56908594is this dude top tier in the tcg too?
>>56908532Not even in the game yet. If you're going to spam, get your catchphrases right dumbass
>>56908589Ill show you something even worse
>>56908594this specifies -EX, pikachu in this game is ex, they're completely different
>>56908543It did until a few days ago. The Japanese found a way to always flip heads, so they quick patched the coin so there's always variation in its velocity now.
>>56908594You mean 10, because my active isn't an EX when this thing is in front.>>569086072015, I didn't play at that time but seems kinda mid to me.
>>569085953 to retreat and 3 to swing is baaaad. Sabrina drawing one out is always game.
>>56908612>>56908614What's the difference between EX and ex... dafaq
>>56908594>weakness x2 to electric
>>56908609>This is what passes for a 'legendary' pokemon in the tcgLiterally weaker than the leek slapper.
>>56908613>It did until [headcanon]
>>56908607Not that one. Pick related was absolutely meta for a while a decade ago, though.
>>56908603Proofs?
>>56908622This is 2004. EX from that era would be weaker than the ones we have in Pocket.
>>56908620theres 3 different "ex" types throughout the tcg, ex, EX and, like your rayquaza-EX shows, -EX. the attack on rayquaza specifies "Pokemon-EX", which is not "Pokemon ex"
>>56908628cant wait to see our boy in pocket bros...
>>56908609Not as bad as the crystal cards at least. How embarrassing!
>>56908628>Guaranteed 120 damage MINIMUM for 2 energyI can see why it was meta.
So as somebody who only played Yugioh i just got into this game recentlymy question is, whats stopping people from just having an all EX deck since it's the quickest way to kill your opponent?most EX only need 2 energies to do 40+ damagewhy waste your time with a 1 energy chump that does 30 when you'll end up only doing 60 at best and your opponent will have an end game 80+ monster in 3 turns?
>>56908594You're three generations of keywords ago pal. EXs were a Gen 6 TCG thing, we're in Gen 9 and back to ex cards in the real tcg. Gen 7 was GX, and Gen 8 was V/V-MAX, so I can understand being a bit confused.
>>56908628Seems quite strong kek but the new cards are like 1 colorless energy draw 7 cards kek
>>56908032I like Exeggutor EX and Venusaur EX for relatively easy set-up and constant healing
>>569086066869169271546237it's late my timezone but if you friend me we can run a ft3
>>56908650For consistency, you'd need those EX to be the same type.
>>56908357>>56908501More coins = more 50% chances = more likely to land somewhere in the middle. Law of averages and all that. For something to be considered "las vegas" it needs to be volatile. A low number of extreme outcomes. The more possible outcomes you have the less likely you are to get all or nothing. For example, a Marowak that flipped 16 coins for 10 damage each wouldn't be nearly as fun. Because if you had to flip 16 heads to kill something, the odds would be astronomical. 16 heads in a row is basically pointless to try, you'll never do it outside of maybe one crazy lucky day. But 2 coins? Now you've got a chance. Now you can actually roll that dice and have a feasible chance of coming out a winner. With that only happens in the few occurances where you need exactly max damage to kill something, and the more likely chance to hit an average means you naturally play to avoid these situations since you can somewhat reliably expect around 40-80 damage, and you'll only risk the slim chance at 4 heads if you're forced into a position where you have no other choice.
>>56908650EX Pokemon give two prizes. So non-EX decks like Blaine or Weezing/Arbok can win just by killing two Pokemon before your opponent can kill three.
>>56908650ex losing two points when they're ko'd can fuck you if you're just spamming those without any normal cards
>>56908641Can you tell me about the barcode thingy on these cards? I won a MTG tournament for FNM and they were out of MTG packs so I cracked 1 pack of thise set. Obviously this was ages ago. The pack had charizard and foil charizard
>>56908673That's an ereader barcode. You could scan them on a gba with the ereader attachment to download dex entries, minigames, and some other shit.
>>56908653what is the difference?
>>56908676Sorry I'm so retarded, but what's the name of that set? I wanna see if these zards have any collector value
>>56908673nigga do you know how expensive crystal charizard is
I wish trainer cards had flavor text
>>56908682expedition or skyridge
>>56908673I had an e-reader as a kid. Basically, you swipped the card with the GBA e-card reader and it would give you a program. The bottom barcade just gave you a Pokedex entry. The side barcode did all sorts of crazy shit. From coin flipping programs to minigames to a weird "build your own 8 bit platformer" thing. A few cards even had secret attacks you could only see if you scanned the card (like when you scanned it, it would show a 2 energy attack that did 50 damage and applied a random effect. You pushed A every time you used it to see what the random effect was).
>>56908682If you're talking about pic related it's the crystal charizard from skyridge. One of the rarest zards of all time.
>>56908650EX Pokemon deal like 20-30 more damage than non-EX, while having 20-30 more HP than non-EX Pokemon. In exchange for this 20-30 HP advantage, they give the opponent 2 of the 3 points they need to win.As was already mentioned, something like a Blaine card (+30 damage) gives you one turn of "EX" power. Ninetales, for some reason, does 90 damage already, which is Pikachu EX levels of damage, but Ninetales isn't EX, and if you use a Blaine card with the Ninetales, you can one shot a Pikachu EX with a non-EX card very early. When your Ninetales dies, you only give up 1 point, compared to the 2 points Pika gave up. There's also Alakazam, which essentially one shots every threat in the game other than Exeggutor.I'm not saying this is god tier busted or anything, but an argument can definitely be made for not playing EXs. There's also more "honor" in not playing EXs.
>>56908684I have the basic shiny char, but unfortunately it's slightly played condition. It was like 100s of dollars last I checked. I traded a kid in summer camp a poptart (not both but just one of the 2) for it kek. I love that story
Weezing deck is kinda fun. Needs a big attack though.
>>56908692>>56908641I hope they fired whoever came up with this idea.
>>56908702put it with nidoking
>>56908692Oh no, it's expedition zard. Looks to be worth like 75 bucks for the foil tho
>>56908650>whats stopping people from just having an all EX deckNothing. Articuno, Pikachu, Charizard, and some starmie decks are almost entirely EX. The game is just in it's early stages so there aren't a huge number to choose from, so people are using normal pokemon to stall while they set up the big EXs since they can afford to lose 2 of those.
>>56908704They literally unironically did since skyridge was the last WOTC printed card. TPC took full control shortly after their release.
Am I getting jewed out of my hourglass if I burn 2 with 1.5 hours to go, or does it carry the minutes over to the next
>>56908710you can optimize those EX decks with fossils so you can throw those up as meat shields when necessary and unlike basic cards, pokeball doesn't search for fossils so your more likely to pull the EX's you need.
>>56908704You've gotta remember 2 things: The E-reader cards had a VERY low power level compared to other sets (it was meant to be a hard reboot, but shit happened) and weakness was 2x at the time. A Pokemon who could exploit multiple weaknesses worked as a fun gimmick, even if they saw no tournament play.
>>56908717it doesn't carry over the minutes, it resets back to 11 hours 59 minutes. Don't get tricked into wasting hourglasses to save 5 minutes
>>56908727No it doesn't?
>>56908678EXs were all basics, but exs have to be built up to. Comparing two on-meta decks in the real tcg, the core card for both is a Gardevoir, but you could get the EX online and blasting much faster than you can the ex, in my experience.
>>56908648>or
>>56908717yeah the minutes carry over
>>56908236Things they should patch>make the promo Mew card one colorless energy to use, so people can put it in any deck like meowth>make Bulbasaur’s attack 1 energy, 20 damage, heals him for 20>Meltans gather energy should do 10 damage>remove all coin flips from the game>Make scyther and hitmonchan do 40 damage or nerf farfetched down to 30 or make farfetched 2 retreat cost, it makes no sense that little bird is better than 2 actual cool moms and they have maybe a slight hp edge >petlils heal has never ever in a single game ever come into play or made a difference, make its move do 0 damage but give it an energy, or do 20 damage, or just heal itself for 20 and do no damage.>vulpixes tail whip should do 10 damage>desu Moltres’ inferno dance should do 10 damage>charmander should not discard energy with its move, it could even stay 30 to make it not a shitmon, or go down to 20 and be fair>I want to say buff poliwrath nuts it has so much and it still sucks somehow, maybe give it 10 more hp.>Cloyster is easy, it’s shell armor should do -20 damage, and maybe more hp/ either or>seadra’s water arrow should do 20 damage to the active Pokémon along with its damageLots of mons would be fixed with lower cost attacks, omastar is a good example, give it the watergun attack that omanyte has and it’d fix it.This is because of the going first disadvantage, because of shitty evolution jumps in energy and game pacing, it becomes impossible to attack for 3-4 turns sometimes, Bulbasaur is a good example of that, you can either choose to evolve and not attack, or risk it, your opponent doesn’t have to make that choice.
>>56908635Okay, that's nice.When will they release PokemonS-EX as a card type in the tcg though?
>>56908765when you finally stop jerking off
>>56908753>moltres inferno dance should do 10 damage>charmander basic attack shouldn't discard energyI play this team and I'm telling you, that's way too good. If anything moltres or charizard could be nerfed. Nothing currently even has 200 health and getting to flip 3 coins for energy when misty doesn't give you shit 50% of time is kind of absurd. But rather than nerfing anything, I'd rather the other archetypes get better energy sourcing support. maybe some abilities for the lesser played basic mons
someone give me a dark deck to kill all mewtwo trannies
>>56908753there's so many completely dogshit cards that they would never do it, it's on purpose
>>56908793Arbok/NidoKING
>>56908793I've been having fun with Weezing/Arbok. Very funny when you Giovanni one of the Gardevoir, then Arbok ensures it can't retreat.
Arbok sucks.
i think its cool that a deck is made up of only team rocket pokemon like Arbok/Koffingvery cool
>>56908793the weezing arbok deck beats it handilymuk and nidoking are too slow usually
Weezing is the most flexible card in the game debate me
>>56908809Arbok is amazing. 2HKOs Mewtwo for only two energy plus prevents it from retreating to safety.
>>56908825If you keep it out to try and actually kill anything, it's not that good at that. It's good for forcing switches but against the heavy hitters it folds quickly.
Are there any Charizard EX decks that don't have Moltres EX? I just got the immersion art for my 2nd copy of it, but I have no Moltres and I really don't have any interest in a Charizard deck anyway
>>56908822even pikachuds bow before the king
>A lucky Wonder Pick sends me down the path of opening Zard packs for a second Starmie ex>A lucky Wonder Pick gets me a second Starmie exIt must be my birthday. OH WAIT, IT IS.
Picking the same one every time or random for wonder trade? My bottom left only strategy isn't working all that great.
>>56908111So booster packs are assumed to be limited time, meaning you’ll only be able to trade and maybe wonder pick these cards at some point? I wonder how the rotation will work with that, or if cards will every rotate but maybe just become not viable?
>>56908842happy birthday anon
>>56908793As a mewtwo tranny, arbok weezing is all you need
>>56908842Happy Birthday, Anonkun!
>>56908844I'm guessing you'll always be able to wonder pick or roll for the cards but they'll probably make it so you can't trade for cards from the latest booster pack
>>56908129Does he mean 3 places cuz the numbers he’s saying only makes sense if he means 3 places.
>>56908832Moltres is the best card in that deck and that color, so no
>>56908842Scorpiochads stay winning. Happy birthday anon, here is a Magmar Pepe for you.
>>56908854That’s gonna be fucking awful if you want a full art card that you might have to keep rolling instead of being able to buy it after a set amount. Literally pray that the people running this game and Pokémon company in general grow a brain someday soon.
>already have 2 Mewtwo EXs>get the immersion art Mewtwo EX>still don't have Koga or Weezing or Exeggutor or any of the other shit in that pack>don't even have GardevoirWhy can't I dismantle the cards I don't want and turn them into pack points? Even if this card only gave me half of what it cost in pack points, I would be cool with that.
>>56908753Make Misty only work on psyduck, starmie, and gyarados. Make Erika heal 70 but work only on vileplume, victreebel, and tangela then add in an aroma lady supporter who does what Erika did previously so Venusaur still works. Make pikachu deal 20 damage naturally but only gain 20 for each benched electric. Make golem only deal 20 damage to itself and let brock work on Geodude too.
>>56908874exeggutor is charizard pack, I should know'cause I can't seem to get a second one or any of the other good shit in that pack, goddamnit I just wanna move onto another pack
>>56908889I guess I meant Venusaur then. Just anything. I don't have anything at all from this pack except 2 regular Mewtwo EXs and an immersion art Mewtwo EX. It's very frustrating. No Marowak EX, no Koga, no Articuno EX, no Weezing, no Pidgeot, no Golbat, no regular Mewtwo, nothing. I really feel like I should be able to turn it into pack points or something. Hopefully the trade fixes this, but it's not coming until January.
Choosing the booster pack doesn't matter when pulling singles, right?I got a god pack sometime ago and my superstition was to always pick the 7th pack.
>>56908926yeah, each pack is different, when you pull 10 you're just opening each pack that would've been in the circle
>open 10 mewtwo packs>no Mewtwo>no Giovanni>no Gardevoir>no Koga>no Muk>no Weezing>no Venasuar >2 Aerodactyl>1 Articuno exFeels like a waste.
>>56908957Never open 10 packs. My schizo theory is that your RNG seed is rolled only once for the 10 packs. It's either god tier or shit tier, with like a 90% chance to be shit tier.
>>56908926No, the result is determined when you hit the button.
>>56908957>2 aerodactylit's a sign. Go forth and flip coins.
>>56908926No it doesn't matter which pack you choose.The cards are decided when you hit the 'open pack' button, before the 'pack wheel'.The wheel is just meant to create the illusion that you're picking a pack like in an IRL store.
>>56908129Crazy I have the exact setup the example gives right now.
>>56908129Forgot pic, let’s see if it works.
>>56908959That's not how seeds work anon.If all 10 packs used the same RNG seed, they would all produce the exact same result.Also no gacha company would ever be insane enough to use fucking system time for their RNG seed as it's one of the easiest for players to predict and therefore manipulate to get the pulls they want.Most gacha use a combination of unique variables to create a compound seed unique to each pull, this way it is impossible for players to manipulate or predict the seed in order to control their pulls. I can guarantee that this game almost definitely works the same way, though only the developers of the game would know what variables are used to create the seed.
>>56908999>>56909003Here we go..
>>56909006Don't care. Obviously I mean "good seed" or "bad seed". I play by feel, and that's how I feel.
>>56909010Wow he's cute good luck
>>56909015based feeler
>>56909015this is how I have everything I want on FGO. I believe esoteric things like hot periods and bad luck strings. It has no factual backing, the opposite in some cases, and yet it still works.
>>56909018>>56909010Big fucking waste and the position of the cards proves this doesn’t work cuz Squirtle was in the same place he started during the pick :’( I’m gonna puke
>found out you can turn packs before opening them Okay this is cool. I do that IRL too. I don't know if it means I'll be seeing the rares first though.
>>56909037
>>56909044>>56909037LolBottom Right for life.Never lets me down (except the times it does but those don't count).
>>56909038Myth, busted?
>>56909044even if it worked you picked the wrong one. It would be on the top right.
>>56909044>doesnt know bottom right is always right
>>569090543 stamina Liligantkek
I actually think the card is predetermined before picking a card and choosing it just a visual flair
>>56909066No shit.
>>56909044Just curious but what was Meowth position when you chose it?
>>56909052I'm a top right purist myself
I believe in the heart of the cards...
>free premium expiresWelp, guess it's time for 2 packs per day
>>56908842Happy birthday Anon !
>>56909085You had a 2/5 chance of a good card, but I think the Porygon is cooler
>>56909094I already had that Pory but didn't have Venusaur, my stamina was about to max out anyway so I just pulled whatever
>>56909096>completely empty benchI don't think I've seen this happen once to an ex pikachu player.
>>56909100Wow you really took a risk on a duplicate Porygon glad fortune favored the brave
>>56909092mr stark.. i dont want to go...
>>56909096>>56909101Should have a single ZapdosAnd Mewtwo should have a Kirla and Ralts or double Kirlia just acting like retarded children he needs to babysit, that or a Gardevoir waiting on a bus or something.
>>56909117I think the joke is that mew two is supposed to be more consistent because gardevoir always nets one extra energy, but setting up gardevoir is *slightly* harder than pikachu just having any other pokemon to sit on the bench.
Wheezing ability should work from the bench.
>>56909129But who else would be doing the tanking then?
>>56909092personally I'm waiting til the new packs release to start my free trial of winrar.
>>56909129that's why I love hypno, you can have two of them on your bench sleeping your opponent and if they use sabrina to swap in one, you still have a back up to keep putting them to sleep.
it's only a matter of time til we get this
>>56909135Your mon that gets a damage boost against a poisoned opponent.
>>56908903Same here, only difference is i got a marowakI want to build a dark deck but i already have a mew(2) deck ready. It is what it is, i'll save the secret t0 nidoking deck for last.
>>56909145if anything they'll only make it work with one specific type, I doubt they'll power creep x speed that fast
>>56909145No, that's why X Speed exists.It's this, but worse, because it would be disproportionately good.
>>56909145>>56909152YOU CALLED?
>>56909139Redpill me on the free trial
>>56909161Yes I am aware of Scoop up but dis nigga scoops up your koffing TOO and then you just play it down so it's like asdfghdsf its good we love Koga in this thread
>>56909161>gets rid of the grimer/koffing when shuffling their evos back into your deck yeah nah
What if the miniset is about the elite 4 but it's Johto's elite 4? Koga support and Karen to usher us into a dark age? Could be fun.
>>56909174It would make too much sense..
>>56909169>gets rid of the grimer/koffing when shuffling their evos back into your deck I think you mean healing back the grimer/koffing when moving them to you bench
>>56909168this early 2000s 3D weedle is so cute
>>56907322I miss back when the pokemen had levels
>>56909183weedle had a hard life
>>56909174Miniset is obviously Kanto E4, with a heavy focus on Dragons. Definitely a Dragonite ex. The E4 each get a trainer card too, definitely. Probably more Items as we're definitely lacking in deck building options.
>>56909160eh I don't think it would be that bad. X-speed is effectively a switch for most of the meta decks. switch would just make those heavy cards like gyarados, onix, lapras, and snorlax more viable.
>>56909101I have.It was hysterical.Then on turn 2 he played a second Pikachu EX to his field, this time a crown rare version.Then on turn 3 he conceded.I actually felt a little bad for the guy, bricked like a motherfucker. Was still fucking funny though.
>>56907361It's exactly how the other anon said, Pikachu is the most consistent strong deck and will win against luck based decks, aka the other 90%, on average. However, if they get lucky, you just lose without any chance to fight back as you cannot pull out a Misty or Moltres out the ass, or perfect Gardevoir lineup. It's the only deck that doesn't rely on energy stacking haxx and uses honest Lt Surge at most
>>56909214Futureproofing is a bitch like that.Now, I would expect they'll eventually do something like the ACE trainer cards, where you can only have one of those in a deck, Switch could be one of those. Having to pick between that and other ACE cards makes it a choice that would benefit those large cost mons.
Dragon needing multiple element is still weird in this game. Energy generation is more restrictive here.
>>56907601This looks so unoptimised, a line with just 2 cards is gambling.
>>56909209Is Gengar ex in the game?If each of the E4 get an ex, then what is it?Slowbro ex for Lorelei?Onix ex for BrunoGengar ex for Agatha Dragonite ex for Lance?
>>56909246it is but no one plays it
>>56909209I hope this happens. Dragons don't have any support and neither does Metal which is barely an archetype.
>>56909246Onix Ex isn't something they'd do, since it's not a final evolution.The rat is an exception.
>>56909246Gengar, Lapras and Machamp already have ex versions so if they add Dragonite the elite 4 is covered.
>>56909259Dragon, Metal and Dark are the types that are lacking in variety and support in the initial release set.So it wouldn't shock me if the mini set focuses on those 3 types with some bits and pieces for the other types.
>>56909246Gengar ex is in the game, but it's less optimal than mew two so you hardly see it. 3 energy to attack and only does 100. It is tankier and it's ability denies support, but denying support matters less in later turns when your opponenet has most likely played their prof oaks and shit already.
>>56909246each pack has 5 ex'si'd say dragonite and gary are locked in
>>56909267>3 of the Elite 4 already have EX cards of their ace pokemon>They're all terriblelollmaoHopefully Dragonite EX doesn't suck ass. It'd be nice if at least one was actually decent.
>>56909231Statistically they should brick way more often than they actually do. If I struggle to find my Stage 1s most games, Pikachu should be struggling to find 4x basics. I can only imagine that 90% of their bricks happen during matches against each other and they never happen against me.
>>56909259No shit steel doesn't have good support in the set based on the gen where it didn't exist. Skarmory, Steelix and Scizor will be here in a couple months.
Would you rather Immersive Dragonite or Immersive Gyarados?
>>56909274Dragonite is already a very good card, just lacking the support to make it consistent to set up. If they give EX a 3 or 2 energy attack on top of draco meteor that would be huge.
>>56909281Can't wait for Steelix and Scizor. Steel type has a bunch of cool pokemon but I really don't like mawile. >>56909285if they did a johto themed pack, we could get a lake of rage red immersive gyarados
>koga: always here before you need him>girl cards: never there even in a pinch
>>56909291>we could get a lake of rage red immersive gyaradosthat would be so cool man
>>56909294Sabrina has never failed me and Erika always seems to be there for my opponent. Misty can suck a dick tho
>>56909281I think it'd be cool if the steel cards had one card that used Steel, and one card that used their colour energy. So e.g. Scizor would have a 1 steel 1 colourless attack that did 70 damage, and a 1 grass 2 colourless attack that did 90.
>>56909285gyarados blows him out of the water no contest
>>56909269Metal and Steel are obviously gonna get a lot of support set 2. Which should be gen 2. It'll also likely introduce tools you can attach.
>>56909286>>56909274Personally, I feel that Dragonite ex should take dark energy somewhere instead of water and electric
>>56909294Erika is always there.
>>56909310>redo stadium>everytime you flip tails on your first flip a turn you may flip again and try for heads
>>56909271Slowbro ex also seems extremely likely to me.We also don't have a colorless ex. Yet either.We could also maybe see a viable Mew. Or Mew ex.
>>56909317>we also don't have a colorless exwigglytuff
>>56909317holypowercreepgive me it
>>56909262It happens occasionally
>>56909317wigglytuff
>>56909326They're trying to shill Sprig through the anime, right?Though to be fair, I'm not familiar enough with modern, so maybe it actually is something they do now.
>>56909326they might reserve these alternate pre-evo's for the promo cards instead of as proper EX cards.
>one more pack untill 500 pts>still mising my 2nd Zard EXI'm too tempted at this point. Trading when?
>>56909316Oh PLEASE!!!
>>56909317>We also don't have a colorless ex. Yet either.
>>56909333they announced trading is getting added in january. But the dataminers found the next event is going to be for firetypes and Arcanine, so it might be worth holding off on crafting
>>56909324>That card draw effectHoly AIDS that would be the fucking worst thing ever, it's a basic too so people could just plop it on the bench on turn 1 and cycle through their whole deck by turn 3.
>>56909326What a stupid name
>>56909326DUDE
>>56909341WEED
>try to theory craft a weezing kabutops deck to counterpick both the top decks>kabuto just cleanly dies to pikachu>kabutops just cleanly dies to raichuI'm not smarter than everyone else...
>>56909333>>>still mising my 2nd Zard EXHold out until black friday, that's when the new set of events dropAPPARENTLY the fire event has boosted fire mon rates
>>56908221No. That placement essentially invalidates the whole list
>>56909324>>56909338>free retreat cost too
>>56909326>heal 30 damage from this pokemonIs anyone else bothered by this wording?It just sounds really awkward.I feel like "Remove 30 damage from this pokemon" or something would be better. "Heal from" just sounds like something someone who doesn't speak english would write.
>>56909349ESL?Heal X from Y works fine and remove damage only sounds fine if they say remove X damage counters from Y
>>56909335>>56909328Forgot about this one.So then, Dragonite ex, Slowbro ex. Maybe Onix ex. Maybe Gyarados ex. Pidgeot ex also seems possible. All E4. Some form of trash interaction, like a Revive. Better draw/search. Maybe an Ultra Ball. Mew ex? Maybe something like Research.
>>56909349This one bugged me way more. >>56908735Back in my day, it definitely wasn't "This Pokemon recovers from all Special Conditions"
>>56909337>>56909345>Fire mon drop rate boostI'm happy and, yet at the same time, malding at this news desuI already used too many hourglasses
>>56909354Remember it doesn't need to all be Kanto.The first set contains pokemon from other regions.Actually now that I think about it are all the EX mons currently in the game Kanto?
>>56909360Yes, everyone with an ex or full art is KANTOOOOO
>>56909345>tfw the one pack I haven't been pulling is the Charizard packFucking based.I'm almost done with the Pikachu and Mewtwo packs too so I'm gonna go ham on the Charizard packs when that event hits.
>>56909344Kabutops is weird, it has a healing effect on attack, but doesn't do that much damage or have that much health compared to other stronger mons, and it's basic form is a fossil which for better and worse is not searchable by pokeballs. I honestly think it's the worst of the three fossils. Omastar hits harder at 70 and has the bonus effect of not letting the enemy attack, and Aerodactyl has a 50% chance to make the opponents 4 energy, 2nd stage wincon return to deck.
>>56909345I've been wondering what the fuck that even means. In the boosters? I hope they make a separate boosters for it so that you can still roll normal odds if you want.In Wonder Pick? Shit's supposed to be based on boosters, so no?
>>56909359you'll get more from the new singleplayer event, it's not that big a deal if you're out now.
>first time using zard deck>vs matches me with venu exIs the AI trying to please me and then show me endless pikachu and articuno decks?
>>56908450>>56908460This is not true Steelix EX and Steelix V are basics because all EX and V cards are basics. Normal Steelix and ex(Lower case) are stage 1s also if steelix got a GX it would have been a stage 1 aswell because GX function like ex's with a big super movie. So if steelix gets into Pocket it will evolve from onix
>>56909373>articunoit's only really bad if they get lucky with misty early, I find Articuno to be very tolerable with a charizard deck. Helps that charmeleon and charizard can both tank blizzard
>>56909371When is the new event dropping next week?
>>56908495I could agree to pika but mewtwo needs nerfs. It needs to lose 10-20 hp and its 2 energy attack needs to lose 20 damage
>>56908018>please let me get the last hitNo.
>>56909382according to the datamine it starts 22nd
>>56909366it duels the annoying EX basics over 2 turns, especially pikachuit's dogshit against tier 2 themed decksit also requires almost no energy investment, which is better than omastar and makes it work in a 2 colour deck, although oma is fine with multicolour toothat being said it's not bulky enough for it to actually pan out I think and I'm not crafting 2 kabutos to find out
>>56909344just play your normal deck but replace your kanga with mienshao
>>56909391I don't give a shit about that. I'm all for people conceding early, especially if they still have a chance to win. I'm just saying that they shouldn't. For their sake.
>>56909360The other non-Kanto mons are mostly filler it seems. So we will see other non-Kanto mons but who they are is impossible to guess.
TRIARchads, we win again.
>>56909408But the good card was bottom left.
>>56909413ideally you would have both
>>56909344Raichu is still an uncommon build so it's rare for Lightning to be able to burst it down outside of a lucky Zapdos flip. It's healing 70 every hit versus Pikachu EX, so the rat will mostly run away
You should be able to reduce any card of a specific rarity into currency to flair that specific rarity, i.e., reduce two 1* Rapidash and one 1* Squirtle to flair a 1* Charmander three times.
>>56909388I don't agree. The game would be too slow and drawn out if so. Better to bring up the overall power level of the game to that standard. The biggest problem right now is the lack of consistency due to there being too little search and draw power, and every deck running the exact same suite of support cards since there's so few options.
>>56909427yeah having to pull dupes of rares to flair them is really annoying. I guess that's how you hook the whales to rip 500 packs so they can have their gold ex pikachu with hearts
>>56909427You should. But they won't let you. I agree it's moronic though.>Here, dust multiple copies of this extremely rare card for a cosmetic effect. >No, not the junk you've collected multiple dozens of copies off, that shit is literally useless.
finally ran out of wp hourglasses and I haven't gotten a single good card from wps. shit ass mechanic, 20% my ass.
>>56909429>too slow and drawn outevery game is done in under 5 minutes unless your fighting the rare stall deck. the pacing is very fast for a tcg. I would be interested if they added a ft6 format in addition to the ft3 we have now. Might lead to more comebacks and strategies that don't favor hyper rush decks like pikachu ex
>>56909443The deck builder seems to imply larger deck sizes will be possible. So we'll see. It's a possibility.
>>56908032I really like Lt Surge. Raichus, Magnetons, and Electrodes, no Pika EX. The engine is fun and swapping in the Raichu for the Lt Surge is fun, and Electrode has no retreat cost so its like running 4 X Speeds.
>>56909396>I don't give a shit about that>but please let me hit you for the winning blow
>>56909461I'll register you as a retard then.
>>56908692This shit is supremely ugly>captcha: TNDW2
>>56908793Weezing/arbokWeezing/nidoking
>>56909354Slowbro ex for Lorelei Onix ex for Bruno Arbok ex for AgathaDragonite ex for Lance.
you'd think they'd give you a special badge for getting all 226 cards instead of pack jpegs for profile pics
>>56909443Even the stall decks I run only take 10 minutes for games to finish. The only real matchup that will take 30 turns to draw is Kabutops vs. Kabutops and I've only been part of that once.
>if you go first, you usually lose>best deck in the format only has a 55% win rate>this barely outperforms >not to mention shit draw RNG
>>56909505you already have special pack themed badges in the shop
>>56909505The 3 bird emblems are kino
>>56909515just need articuno and I'll finally have this...
>>56908196for me it was seeing all the people with immersive mews on day 1
>>56908658>>56908606>>56908658WHO WON?
wheres the new thread? i aint posting my shit in a dead thread
>>56909244>This looks so unoptimised, a line with just 2 cards is gambling.elaborate
>>56909526umm page 10 bro...?
>>56909498>Slowbro ex for LoreleiPlausible. Slowpoke has a full art and the Slowbro we currently have is dogwater. A good EX would give us a reason to play those Skowpokes.>Onix ex for BrunoOr a Steelix. He gets those eventually.>Arbok ex for AgathaI could see that or a Crobat EX>Dragonite ex for Lance.Or a Gryarados EX or even an Aerodactyl.
Muk, Wheezer deck is pretty fun.
>>56909429>Mewtwo player thinks that making mewtwo weaker would make the game slowerIt would speed things up Mewtwo is the premier stall deck. The whole game plan is to not lose until you have a stacked mewtwo with gardevoir in the back. Mewtwo 150 hp makes it unfairly bulky for a basic no card benefits from potions like mewtwo does. Its 50 damage is down right obnoxious as it's in range to 1 hit a bunch of baby pokemon with and without Giovanni's help and it 2 shots almost all non ex stage 1s. The retreat cost could also stand to be nerfed, 2 is too low for what its capable of.I dont want hear any more mewtwo down playing I've played 100 matches with mewtwo, pikachu and starmie decks and I can say with complete confidence that Pikachu and Starmie half to get LUCKY to beat mewtwo, that deck just starts on the path to victory whether it goes second or first
>>56909515How do you get this?
>>56909541all 3 full art birds
>>56909548Just need Moltress.Too bad I'm not opening Charizard packs lmao.
>>56909538
>>56909360Come on bro you know how it is...
Pika EX is insane. Mewtwo deck is pure cope in comparison.
>>56909567I think they're basically the same power level, and some people might argue that Mewtwo is better.
I want to take a forever nap. Fuck this.
>>56909587yeah, wonder pick can be quite the headache
>>56909587>bottom lefterehexpected
Pikachu = aggroMewtwo = midrangeCharizard = stall
>last 5 matches, I have gone first>lost every match
>>56909615take the wheezing or kanghaskhan pill
>go first>red card
>>56909587>Wonder Picking for anything other than EX cardsYou SHOULD take a forever nap if you're this retarded.
>Zebrastrike a Staryu on bench>it doesn't apply weakness>evolves to Starmie next turn and kills ZebrastrikeThis is fucked up because weakness does apply when it's the active pokemon
>>56909626This got me early on because the real card game specifies that it doesn't apply to the bench on such an attack.
>>56909632THey're not very clear about stuff, like the status effects like sleep n shit, how are you spose to know baka..
>>56909586then you look at tournament results and pika shits all over mewtwo
update:>already have 2 mewtwo exs>pulled a immersive art mewtwo ex earlier>pulled another one just now>4 mewtwo exsi still don't have anything else that comes out of the mewtwo pack like koga or weezing or gardevoir or marowak or articuno or pidgeot or golbat or regular mewtwo
>>56909662Mewtwo is literally a FtM transexual look at those hips
>>56909669or it's just an animal that happens to have large thighs
>>56909669You seem to know a lot about this.
>>56909344Raichu deck already exists to ‘counter the too decks’. Those wr stats are scraped from tournaments and Raichu is playing other Pikachu decks, which it has a very good matchup against because it can ohko every card they have. Arcanine also does well in tournaments because it’s specifically anti-Pika meta
Finished the tutorials, when do I use my pack hourglasses?
>>56909639Did you not play the guides they give you? They tell you where to find status effects and the stuff about only active mons take weakness damage is said in the actual guides tooPut subway surfers away and read lmao
Do you get opponents that disconnect instead of concede?
>>56909697do the solo battles and advance missions
>>56909669What makes them FtM hips
300$ so far
>>56909713oink oink OOOOOOIIIIINKKKKKKKKK
>>56909395>Golbat beats Mewtwo>Mienshao beats Pika>Heliolisk beats Starmie
>>56909713W/L Ratio?
>>56909725how do you see L
>>56909701I've had maybe like 5 of them do that. They just close the app or walk away or something
Does the tutorial give you a guaranteed EX? I remember misclicking the pack I wanted and got Mewtwo EX in it, when I wanted to open the Zard pack.
>>56909735You are forced to open the Mewtwo pack as your second pack, but what you get is random. You got lucky and got a Mewtwo EX
I miss my 3rd pack anons...
>>56909755same...waiting for the black friday deal to see what it does tho
>>56909713My collection after only buying the Gardevoir cosmetics
>>56907322Anyone up for some battles? I don't mind Meta or no EX.
>>56909713MineI've only put $100, and I don't intend to put more. The game's refusal to give me full art trainers is also extremely irritating.
>>56909796>>56909762>>56909713>tfw literally everyone in the universe except me has immersive raresI'm gonna fucking kill myself.
>>56909799pay up lol
>>56908129>>56909003>>56909010https://files.catbox.moe/aqyoih.mp4didn't work for me
>>56907455damn im burning all my extra cards for the bling bling effects
GardevoirEX meta deck when? Mewtwo is fucking awful.
got the gold emblem using my based marowak
>>56909796>I've only put $100That is a lot anon, don't kid yourself
>>56909796>>56909713>>56909762>100>300>Only one purchaseYou guys need to get your numbers up, you wouldn't even be considered dolphins with those low amounts spent, let alone whales.
>>56907361>Venusaur EX is E-tierI fucking knew people were gaslighting when they said it was any good.
>>56909928Yeah it's ass.Way too slow for what you actually get.Gets absolutely blitzed by other decks most of the time.
>>56907361If you play any of these then you're a meta slave
>>56909925Problem is, that's not a Hoyoverse game. You barely need to spend 100-200$ to get the whole collection already. More if you really want to pick specific cards and you're an ultra lucklet I guess.
>Spending xxx on a few week old card gameIt's already losing players, game will be dead in 3 months.
>>56909952Not if they keep spending money
>>56909952It's actually earning more than it was at launch
How much Pokegold is it for 10 packs?
>>56909975601 Pokegold = 2 Hourglasses
>tfw trapped on 44 wins
Please tell me metal gets better. Also why is there not a single Johto Pokemon in this game, fucking hacks.
>>56910017the 2nd set will clearly go hard on gen 2
I hate the wonder brick!
I love the Wonder God!
>>56910046>>56910046>>56910046FRESH BAKED THREAD!
>>56909669I figured that tail wasn't natural, way too big and girthy
I'm sure any Fire deck can ruin it, but I'm surprised how resilient this deck can be
>>56909427It sucks for people that might like it, but thankfully I can't stand flairs. It feels like putting cheap stickers on them.
>>56909439You're only supposed to use WP hourglasses when a pack has two or more cards that you wantOtherwise, just use the stamina
>>56909669I am on my hands and knees begging to know who asked
>>56908658Just waking now. I'll add you but I gotta work for a few days sadly
>>56908658Snet. It I'm pretty sure we already battle kek
