Name a single better era for pokemon
>>56917411that's it. it died after this
>>56917411>>>>>DSzoomer
Genwar thread
>>56917411>Best story: BW, PMD>Best gameplay: HGSS, B2W2>Best map: Ptyeah it doesn't get better than this
DSfags are the most obnoxious people. Not even gameboy boomers are like this.
>>56917411Either of the eras directly before or after it
unova out of nowhere
>>56917545it's right in OP's image doebeit
>>56917536GBA is strictly worse in every conceivable way to gen 4 and 5
>>56917598>has better performance>has better battle facilities>has actual exploration>isn’t balanced like shitno
>>56917614>shit story>shit graphics>shit map>shit postgame>shit scripted facilitiesthe only good thing from gba is pinball
>>56917456It was a lesser Pokemania. You had to be there.
>>56917411>DP and the rangers cut outSharty thread
>>56917801Not OP but DP are some of the worst games in the franchise eventhough platinum is one of the best, makes sense why they wouldn't include it
>>56917456yes they are, don't lie to yourself
>>56917456You clearly leave out the gba kids who run this board, which are just as annoying, but you are likely one of them that's why you leave them out.
>>56917775>>shit story>>shit graphics>>shit map>>shit postgamebut enough about the games in the OP
>>56917428>>56917418>>56917456>>56917536>>56917855Discordie sisters...
>>56917536wake up babe new schizo just dropped
>>56917807Thanks for proving my point shartroon
>>56918034nah it's just yawnfag again
>>56918042ah son of a bitch
>>56917536I think your IP just gets nuked on sight yawnfag, no one likes you guy, go post your usual bait from a library or something and see if you still get banned.
>>56918123you really gotta stop eating those paint chips, yawnie
>>56918123You have yet to criticize the Pinball or TCG games
>(Dead)yawnclitty sisters. . .
>>56917411I simply can't, this was the summum of the 2D era in gameplay and ambiance.Pokemon never recovered since.
>>56917411Emerald is the only good game prior to gen 4 so this is accurate
>>56918323they're not 2d
>>56917807>but DP are some of the worst games in the franchiseSo is Platinum.
>>56917807>but DP are some of the worst games best*Gamefreak should restrict distributions more.
>>56917411Gen III/GBA era was peak Pokemon. Best mainline and best spin-offs. Also Rescue Team shouldn't be on the collage, its a Gen III game.Everyone think about PMD for the DS era but most of the spin-offs released during that time were mediocre.
>>56918354>>56918374hush, yawnie
>>56917411There are better games outside of these, but as a set yeah this is probably the set with the highest average quality.
>>56917411Gen 3. What do I win?
>>56918654A gen isn't an era. You win nothing.
>>56918654you get NOTHINGyou LOSE
>>56918644literally the only good game there is hgss
>>56917443>Best story: BWNo.
>>56917411Pokken and Pokepark are better than any Gamefreak garbage
>>56917802Time did like six or seven special issues when Pokémon GO came out, nothing special
>>56918960Thats wild man, did you come up with that all by yourself? Impressive stuff.
>>56919409Why are you pretending that screeching “LE DS ERA IS LE PEAK!” over and over has any more substance?
>>56917411should be Gen 3 instead of 5
>>56918497>>56918654It's not gen 3. They look great, sound great, and have a nice postgame, but there is more diversity on the DS, they changed the game in gen 5, they look better, sound better, and they both (gen 4 and 5) have as good as a postgame if not better. FRLG doesn't even have a BF
>>56919572>but there is more diversity on the DSdiversity of what? NPCs railroading you? Pointless time sink mechanics?>they changed the game in gen 5How? By removing all the exploration and making the sprites worse?
>>56919572>they changed the game in gen 5fucking lolll, it’s a stagnant gen4.5 at best. gen3 mogs both.
>>56919599The DS has DPPt, HGSS, BW, and BW2. If you don't count the remakes, that's 3 different games with 3 different stories>making the sprites worseThey revolutionized the sprite work and made it more modern, and thus better. I personally prefer the stagnate sprites, but you have to evolve, and moving sprites was the way to go. For their first time doing it, it was very good. 80% of the pokemon showed emotion with those animations. They showed more character than with still sprites, which made you want to catch them>>56919606You don't know what you're talking about
>>56919686>The DS has DPPt, HGSS, BW, and BW2. If you don't count the remakes, that's 3 different games with 3 different storiesand every single one of them is worse and has more stagnant repetitive gameplay than Emerald.>They revolutionized the sprite work and made it more modern,fucking GBA games have better sprite animations.
>>569174113ds
>>56919708One B level game vs 3-4 C+ level games does not make that gen the best gen, especially each of the games provides an entertaining post game (gen 5 has two good post games)>fucking GBA games have better sprite animations.Keep in mind, that was their 3rd time messing with 1-3 framed animations. If pokemon continued with animated sprites in gen 6, they would have surpassed gen 3
>>56919756> One B level game vs 3-4 C+ level games does not make that gen the best genIt does, actually. And DPPt and Gen 5 are worse than a C+.>m-muh postgamerailroading and making the game more linear to arbitrarily lock content after the credits makes the game worse, not better.>they would have surpassed gen 3instead, they made something dramatically worse than gen 3.
>>56919774>And DPPt and Gen 5 are worse than a C+.Thanks for confirming you're just a blind hater>fucking GBA games have better sprite animationsThat wasn't the objective of GF. You're effectively strawmanning because you don't want to admit that gen 4-5 has a better postgame than gen 3>instead, they made something dramatically worse than gen 3.I agree, the 3d models were bad. Pokemon really peaked graphically in gen 4-5. And if I'm going to be a little spicy, I might even say it peaked in gen 5 specifically
Ok kids, which is better: this or a little stupid kick and jive?
One of my favorite animations for one of my favorite pokemon. It looks better the gen 3, graphically and animation wise
>>56919441Oh you almost had a point there, if I had said that. But since I didn't, you just look stupid. What I said was that taken as a whole and averaged together, the DS era has a higher average than others, even thoughnother individual games have been better.
I notice you didn't include DP in your image. Good, it was fucking dogshit and would have dragged down the list more than Platinum already does. It's a real shame Platinum is still the best way to experience Sinnoh, but with BDSP being made in Unity at least there will someday be a version of it that properly addresses the many, many, many problems with the fundamental game design and especially BDSP itself.
>>56919853>many, many problems with the fundamental game designlist them
>>56919853Worst game on there is HGSS without a doubt.
>>56918960literally the only bad game on there is hgss>>56919599>Pointless time sink mechanics?>arbitrarily lock content after the credits makes the game worse, not better.Jej why are johtrannies so fucking retarded? Shit games do this more than any other
>>56919869that's not how you spell mystery dungeon
>>56919875>JejFucking paldea scum
>>56919869Arguably the best game on there, but I strongly dislike the Mystery Dungeon titles personally>>56919862Mediocre encounter design from wild to trainer battles (not quite Gen 1 midgame bad on the latter but it's still not great) that mostly comes down to the 150-ish dex DP went with (Platinum improves this to the point where it's not especially an issue but it probably still needs a once over), map design that is medicore at best and genuinely wastes your time for no reason on multiple maps, unnecessarily punitive time-based mechanics for side content, a shitty minigame in front of musicals in an attempt to make it more action orientated for some reason, the fucking HP drain bug from Gen 2 for some reason on top of shitty slow gameplay in multiple places (and the multiplayer ones that exist to support the lowest common denominator of DP), and to top it all off BDSP added a ton of new unique issues, notably the affection system completely ruining any attempt at balance the game has, and their "solutions" to things like HMs don't really solve the problem as much as waste your time for no reason (oh look who it is it's look who it is). Like, Pokemon is easy, but BDSP is like getting the Return to Dreamland remake and booting it up to find there's mandatory Epic Yarn mechanics in it, it's not what you signed up for. There is a universe where a lot of it can be fixed, but I'm sure you'll have somebody bitch "actually I liked getting stuck in swamp and snow, and berry growing being worse is kino", but I do think improving the maps is hardest as good map design is hard and making a bad map good while retaining the aesthetic identity is really fucking hard especially in 3D. There's just too many little problems overall, it's not like USUM where the only thing stopping me from replaying it is the endless awful cutscenes wasting my time. It's also not like XY or SS, I can see a world where there's a solid video game in it, it's just going to take a lot of work.
>>56919599>>56919708>>56919774
>>56919875parroting is an admission of defeat
>>56919936>Mediocre encounter design from wild to trainer battlesWhat the fuck does this even mean?>genuinely wastes your time for no reason on multiple mapsI never had this issue and I've played platinum twice>unnecessarily punitive time-based mechanics for side contentsoulful, but I can see how you'd had it if you wanted a munchlax>a shitty minigame in front of musicals you have shit tastes>getting stuck in swamp and snow, just avoid them. they're a minor annoyance, so much so I forget they annoy meyou made it seem like the problems you had with the game were fucking awful
>>56919936It absolutely isn’t the best game on there by any means. The encounters are easily the worst in the series, 0 level progression from gyms 5-7, the absolutely worst most convoluted bullshit time-wasting safari zone ever, the retarded pokeathlon minigames which are impossible to play on mouse cockblocking evo items, still retains GSC shitfest mid-game rocket plot on an slower engine. I could go on, HGSS is easily the most overrated boring shit I ever played
>>56919708Emerald has worse tools for building teams and its roster of shitmons is even less fun to use than GSC's pokemon yet GSC is the one getting all the criticism. So no I don't think Emerald is better than those games because of your strange fetish for strength puzzles.
>>56919968Eat a dick faggot
>>56919983>What the fuck does this even mean?Almost none of the fights or wild Pokemon choices are super interesting for the point in the game in which they appear. DP is especially bad because the AI is just broken.>I never had this issue and I've played platinum twiceGood job on missing every swap tile and snow tile that slows you down, but I'm absolutely sure this isn't true because Defog is the biggest waste of HM in the entire franchise. It's like they saw nobody used Flash and wanted to punish them.>soulful, but I can see how you'd had it if you wanted a munchlaxSafari Zone has a similar problem, not to mention berry mulch is completely unnecessary as a complication. I'd say something deterministic or less time wasting would help in almost every listed case, there's no real compelling reason honey trees can't work on a berry timescale or Safari Zone can't be based on day of the week. As much shit as retards like >>56919988 shit on the Safari Zone it's entirely deterministic even if it takes a while and that works to HGSS's overal design philosophy of it being a game you come back to a lot.>you have shit tastesSorry, Gen 3 contests are the best and I will not apologize>just avoid them. they're a minor annoyance, so much so I forget they annoy meMust be nice to be normal>you made it seem like the problems you had with the game were fucking awfulThey were for me, personally. I'm not alone in feeling that on some things. I'm sure there's something you feel just as strongly about that's not a problem for me. Outside of a few cases, I don't think changing what I suggested would make your experience worse, you yourself said you probably wouldn't even notice the swamp/snow changes.>>56919988>the retarded pokeathlon minigames which are impossible to play on mouseI don't think it's really fair to criticize a game based on an unofficial method to play it. Like, I'm all for shitting on a bad port, but you kind of brought it on yourself. Get a flash cart.
>>56920040I should really rephrase my berry point because reading it again it sounds like an insane person statement. I should have probably said something like time to effort ratio, efficiency is probably the correct single word.
>>56920040>As much shit as retards like >>56919988 shit on the Safari Zone it's entirely deterministic even if it takes a while and that works to HGSS's overal design philosophy of it being a game you come back to a lot.I’m like 95% sure I could catch everything that shows up in the Great Shart (before the postgame shit shows up there) in the 3 hours it would take for Larvitar to spawn in the even shittier HGSS safari zone, lmfao. >Like, I'm all for shitting on a bad port, but you kind of brought it on yourself. Get a flash cart.God no, I couldn’t imagine playing this shit game on og hardware
>>56920040>swap tile and snow tile that slows you down, but I'm absolutely sure this isn't true because Defog is the biggest waste of HM in the entire franchiseThe tiles and the fog never pissed me off like that. Just teach that faggot Chatot defog and the Abra flash and be on your way
>>56919992BW2 has the best strength puzzles in any case
>>56920098If you get bad RNG, Larvitar would take about 3 hours, give or take the tutorial speed and actually finding Larvitar, which isn't amazing but might genuinely be faster than Crystal (I guess it depends on your gambling skill or saved up money). If you get bad RNG, Carnivine will take at least one day from whenever you visit Great Marsh, which is anything from 1 second to 24 hours, and that's assuming you don't get bad RNG again. Of course, you could just reset the time to be more favorable in the Sinnoh example, but that's tedious and very blatantly not an intended mechanic so I feel justified in saying it's a game design problem.>God no, I couldn’t imagine playing this shit game on og hardwareI could almost agree there, I'd have a hard time replaying DP simply for the miserable surf speed. Thankfully Platinum exists so I don't have to deal with it, and HGSS is mostly reasonably fast (shame about that HP drain bug still).>>56920132The two main problems with fog are that it has an unnecessarily punitive effect meaning you have to waste a team member at worst and a move slot at best to not be fucking miserable in every battle, and that it's basically mandatory exactly once with barely any use outside of that. Flash you can ignore if you really want to bump around in the dark and there can even be fun in that. Many other HMs have a larger number of uses across the game. Even if Defog only required you to have certain species of Pokemon on your team it would suck dick because there's nothing interesting about using it and not using it is fucking retarded and no reasonable human being would do it, while also not providing enough of a team building incentive over every other HM that already exists. It's why the BDSP solution for HMs is just pointless. Defog goes against every single strength HMs have as a mechanic and it pisses me off more for the waste of game design than any of the actual effects do.
>man [DS game] is good>NUH UH14 years and counting
>>56917411HG, SS, B2, & W2 got Ash's name wrong, quit living in the past redfag.
>>56920218>reset the time>but that's tedious and very blatantly not an intended mechaniclol cope retard, i don’t believe for a second you wait literal days for shit like the bug contest or pakeathlon events to rotate. the safari zone is objectively worse because you have to waste time waiting
>>56920237Yes, I wait for the day because unlike you I don't try to fucking speedrun the game and instead take my time with it. Genuinely, the only Pokemon games that are particularly good at being played that way are the Kanto and Hoenn titles. It sounds like you're too used to FotM games and never had to make a game last as a kid, this really isn't abnormal for people from my generation. I'm going to assume based on your talk of disliking games on original hardware you're probably a lot younger than I am, I guess tastes have just changed over the yeard. Maybe that's why games where you go for rankings are rated unfairly for having a short campaign most of the time, replaying the game to get a better score is the game in the same way HGSS (and by extention GSC) are about consistently coming back to a living world (or at least as living as they could get on the fucking GameBoy). As a question about your tastes, do you time travel in Animal Crossing too? I see that debate crop up a lot, I'd personally just get burnt out from doing everything in the game in the span of like a month.
>>56920274>n-noo the game isn’t meant to be played like that>i-i totally dont like wasting my time, but I’ll waste 50 hours to catch a scythercool retard i already got the leaf stone and beat the shit game without waiting days like a fucking idiot lol
>>56917411I can't, it's impossible......
>>56920302Okay, and you clearly didn't have fun. I waited for a thing I knew was going to happen, took advantage of it, and had a good experience in my opinion. I don't like waiting for something just to get told "eat shit retard", that's just not remotely fun, which is why HGSS consistently being deterministic is really nice. Probably just a fundamental difference between us at the end of the day. Or, maybe you could try playing it the way I do, see how it changes your experience, you might just enjoy it. Or just play Animal Crossing instead, probably the better choice overall, I'd personally recommend New Leaf if you haven't played it (or even if you have, it's a good game).
>>56920316>Okay, and you clearly didn't have funtrue the game still has many other issues plaguing it like the level curve shitting itself after the 4th gym to be fun, but at least im not retard who enjoys waiting literal days for things to happen. you’re not gonna convince anyone that watching the clock tick away for 48 hours is “fun”, faggot
>>56920344S'cool, there's a lot of Pokemon games I don't find fun, like DP or XY. Hell, even a game I really like for a lot of reasons like USUM is fucking miserable with all those cutscenes. They weren't great on the first run of SM, they were worse in my first run of USUM, I can't deal with that shit a third time. Doesn't matter how great the sidequests are or how the bosses are actually designed for once that isn't a GameCube title. I'm cool with Johto being a bit on the easy side, I like an easy game now and again, Kirby is always nice and I wish Pokemon hit that quality level more often. HGSS is probably the closest it's been, with compelling arguments for things like Emerald or B2W2. At least the Johto level curve is never really the DQ2 version of how it could have gone where the lack of playtesting lead to it being overly difficult and/or a grindfest, that's just fucking miserable. Worst it gets is Red solely due to the dedication to keeping Pokemon low level in Kanto (good lore, crappy gameplay experience in a game without EXP scaling) and HGSS does a lot to mitigate the few issues the original games had in that area (for example, actual E4 rematch teams in an appropriate lever range to bridge the gap, gym leader rematches would be here if they weren't so oddly specific even if I really like how oddly specific they are). About the only legit problem you mentioned is the overrelaince on Rocket exactly at the end of the low level period. Kanto's midgame was about as bad when it comes to how samey and shit the encounters were but most of it was at least optional.
>>56920387>blah blah blah dp xy usum sm something something kirby yeah im not reading this shit. you obviously have a fetish to waste the time of your own and others. get some help, sweaty.
>Yawnie got cucked againGrim
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