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MaCHAD edition

Previous: >>56917754

>Friend ID Survey
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/vp/ battle passwords to battle with other anons (might want to say in thread which one you wanna battle under so others can join you)
>/vp/ anything:
vp
>/vp/‘s own meta (no coin flips of any kind, no ex, no Dragonite):
vpnx
>meta decks or high level play:
vpmeta
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>>56920112
Keep in mind, the Mew reward isn't going anywhere.
You'll get it eventually, since later sets, promos, events will all have Gen 1 here and there.
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Weezing gang thread. Weezing gang general.
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>>56920108
Finally a good choice of OP
Hoping I get 2 of him eventually, ideally I get a god pack on Charizard one day that just contains a double
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First time seeing a 4 hourglass pick.
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Three in a row, top right truthers rise up
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>>56920141
>>56920142
SAY IT WITH ME
TOP
RIGHT
IS
ALWAYS
RIGHT
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top left bros
we made it
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>Have machoke and machamp ex
>No machop
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How much of the early/tutorial rolls are automated and stuff?
I did the first pack and got marowak EX, then another dead pack, then a wonder pick where I got the "good" one some bulbasaur sparkly card, and finally another pack gave me a dragonite holo and a thing about 16 cards with some dragonite fact relating to it (which made it seem scripted)

Are these all essentially guaranteed results or could I reroll if I wanted? Idk if I wanna build a deck around these
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>>56920135
FUCK MISTY
- WEEZING
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>>56920150
The 1st pack and 1st Wonder Pick (ones you mentioned containing the EX and Full Art respectively) are guaranteed results, yes. The forced Mewtwo pull is not guaranteed of anything which is how you got it dead.
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>>56920108
Can you get that art for Machamp? Also any word on when trading will be available and it's just shit wonder trades or if you can just trade cards with friends like normal
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>>56920163
>Can you get that art for Machamp?
Yeah but it's very rare
>Also any word on when trading will be available
January
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Is the game bugged or something?
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Fun and interactive turn 1 gameplay, killing me instantly
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>>56920150
First pack and first wonder pack is always predetermined

I had a pretty good routine to get my rerolled gold card
>Roll first pack (predetermined)
>Roll mewtwo (this can be anything, even immersives, god pack etc)
>Do the free wonderpack (predetermined)
>Go back to the wonderpack
>Find a 3 or 4 star wonder (more exp)
>claim the shit
>rollrollroll
>claimclaimclaim
>rollrollroll
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>>56920169
Yeah your game is glitched, you should delete your account so your phone doesn't get hardware banned.
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>>56920154
Has anyone drawn an instant loss 2-koma where Misty fails her coin flips and then proceeds to get mating pressed? I feel like people are missing a real opportunity here
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>>56920169
I AM GOING TO DEVOUR YOUR SOUL IATHJISDJISGISGJSOITGNOS
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>>56920169
Nice grab another, grats
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>>56920172
the local shill will defend this
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>another charmander immersive but no moltres
AHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>56920169
Pulls like these make me want to go back and reroll more accounts, but I'm not doing that again.
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>>56920193
Rate up is, was, and always will be a lie
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>>56920177
https://x.com/dummy070088/status/1857378261183131675
Does this count? The kid gets 10 tails in a row, she taunts him, he says he'll come inside her every heads he gets, she says it's fine since he'll never get any.
Then the fanbox only reply has him hitting 10 heads in a row
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This is like the Brawl of cardgames. All the card flip mechanics are like tripping and mewtwo is metaknight
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>>56920212
Mewtwo isn't even close to dominant enough to be called metaknight.
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>>56920212
I already made the Brawl comment last thread, bro. Except you're wrong. Going first in this game is like tripping in Brawl.
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is this the first tcg lite game for a lot of anons here?
far as I can tell most of the tcg bros are all used to this kind of shit, hell master duel had a problem with OTK bots and had to ban cards because they were winning too much games, and that shit was way more consistent than misty high roll, pocket is a really chill game outside of getting misty skill issued
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>3 Gardevoirs but only one Kirlia
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>>56920212
Metaknight was low B-tier?
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>>56920212
but people told me the smash of card games was commander
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>starting hand absolutely bricked
>vs a pika deck nonetheless
>nearly lost the match
>ENTER LAS VEGAS BONEHEAD
>came in clutch with double heads
>drew another one and an xspeed and tanked another zapdos hit
VIVA LAS VEGAS BONEHEAD BABY
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I may have a 6th sense. I also picked a Zapdos EX but I didn't take a screenshot.
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How much would I want to kms rerolling for pic related?
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>>56920324
It's only like 1-2 days of rerolling.
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>>56920156
>>56920175
Thanks
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>>56920324
I mean it's not the highest rarity so it shouldn't be too bad but everyone's luck is different, you could be the (un)lucky loser that rolls the dice in such a way that it takes over 50 account rerolls but you wouldn't know until you get in there and try, especially when the real dilemma is going after the 2nd (since you just know sitting on 1 copy will only keep you content for so long before you want the playset)
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>>56920324
2 gold stars are hardest to reroll for because theres 10 of them
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>>56920352
This. Your odds of pulling a crown rare are about as good as pulling a specific. 2star. I’d love to have a set of the few that I have (moltres ex and blaine), but it’s obvious whale bait.
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I missed my Wonderpick for Charizard EX, why would Gamefreak do this to me?
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>>56920332
>>56920352
>>56920364
Alright I'll give it a shot anyways. If I get lucky with a godseeded account along the way I can just stop there. I exclusively want it for the art anyways
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>>56920392
If it were me rerolling, I'd really want two Sabrina ones. It's a card that will probably always retain relevance after all, and is very universal.
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>>56920392
Chuck up a few instances in mumuplayer + sync it, saves you some time if you reroll a few accounts at the same time
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>I want another Misty for my water deck, not even full art, just a misty will be enough.
>Open just charged pack, gets a fucking immersive Pikachu EX
>ANOTHER immersive Pikachu EX and I haven't gotten the normal one either.
I don't know what to feel and the fucking immersive animation crashed the game, my phone is too weak.
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>pikaniggers conceeding if they don't draw any ex on their starting hand
Lmao
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>>56920206
Dead link, bro
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Couple dumb questions please and ty
1)the part where you pick a pack and it lets you scroll through the wheel of packs and pick which individual one - that's just window dressing/fluff and doesn't actually make a difference right?
2)is there any strat/technique to wonder picking or is it just a flat 1/5 chance where you pray?
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>>56920446
There are no tricks, just pick your shit
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>>56920446
>1)the part where you pick a pack and it lets you scroll through the wheel of packs and pick which individual one - that's just window dressing/fluff and doesn't actually make a difference right?
No, the cards are decided the moment you click open pack.
>2)is there any strat/technique to wonder picking or is it just a flat 1/5 chance where you pray?
Pick any card on top. It has 60% of chance of being there compared to 40% on the bottom cards.
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>>56920453
the illusion of free choice
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>>56920453
>No, the cards are decided the moment you click open pack
Oh, that explains why if the game crashes while you are on that wheel menu you still GET THE CARDS even you didn't open a pack.
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I am at 4 copies now
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>>56920151
I've been trying to catch a Misty fag highroll whole day now, and they either whiff of get like 2-3 heads max. My Jynx is thirsty for blood.
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>>56920439
No it isn't.
I wonder what shithole you're from for it to not work.
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>>56920476
SELL HIGH AT VENU DROP EVENT
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so is this just mewtwo deck simulator until they release a new set?
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There's no way to like, "dust" duplicates is there? I have a couple marowak ex's and I could use some other shit.
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>>56920108
How's your collections coming along?
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>>56920503
only if you want to flair them, for cosmetics
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>>56920519
gay. unless I can get the op's machamp with machamp ex.
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>>56920154
POST THE RESSSTTT
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>f2p
>don't want to buy monthly
>haven't activated the free pass yet, because I don't like all the Mewtwo stuff in the shop
>I also want to save it for maximum jew efficiency
>I might not even be playing 45 days from now
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>>56920143
Explain my curse. I've picked nothing but top right since day 1 and I've never gotten a single fucking thing.
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how crippled it would be to make a venusaur deck with just one ex copy
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>little shing sound effect when you open a pack with a full art
actual soul
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>>56920569
It's such a slow fucking deck that it might be okay.
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>>56920568
You just got the slapper of leeks.
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>>56920564
>spoiler
Wait so is that how long it takes for the premium to change? Pretty lame
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>finally got second lapras ex
>don't have to put up with starmie ex faggotry anymore
Thank god
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I have 5 or 6 of every promo card other than Lapras which is at 0.
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>>56920578
Not that guy, but what's a good substitute for a single Venu EX in the deck?
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>>56920645
No idea. I do have 2 Venusaur EX, but I have never played that deck, and I've only run into it maybe 2 or 3 times. 2 were Lilligant, which I beat. The one I didn't beat was a Butterfree one that just built up a double Butterfree wall building Venusaur EX in the back. I don't remember if I had a bad draw or not, but the wall was thick even if it took a while to assemble. I was playing Pika. I don't know what you or that guy are running with the Venusaur, but my only comments on the deck are that it's slow, the only one I've seen that I didn't beat ran Butterfrees, and it becomes an impenetrable wall if the Butterfrees can get online.
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>>56920645
regular venusaur
exegg
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>Fighting Lapras AI
>Use Sabrina on their only benched mon
>Game pauses
>'Thinking...'

>Next turn uses double X Speed but doesn't switch out
Has the AI gotten dumber?
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>play pika with full bench on open
>oppent goes first
>plays Articuno
>fails Misty coin flip
>conceeds
Too easy
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I don't really get how the rates work. In game if you look at the offerings it says cards 1-3 are guaranteed to be common slop. And then card 4 has a low-ish chance to be something rare. And card 5 has a slightly higher chance to be something rare.

But opening packs I've gotten rare cards on card 1 or 3. What gives?
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>>56920108
i really wanna get that card
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Trading will make or break this game for me.
It feels much stingier than the other mobile TCGs I've played, since we don't have a card crafting by sacrificing dupes. Flairs are a meme in comparison.
When is trading coming again?
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>>56920716
next year bwo...
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>>56920716
>When is trading coming again?
They say Jan in the latest news post. With some things excluded (here's hoping they just mean promo stuff)

I would say it would coincide with the big main set release (Jan29)
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>>56920716
The most fucked up thing is that I only have the meta decks (Mewtwo and Pika) because I'm missing random trainers or 150 cost rares, or even 35 cost Pokemon from every other deck that I want to build. I'm out of Wonder Trade points too.
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Arbok and Weezing? Or Arbok and Pidgeot?
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any fun and cheeky grass type decks?
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>>56920729
Wigglytuff amd Weezing
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>Got my first Immersive Rare (Pikachu EX)
YAY!
FUCKING FINALLY.
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>>56920752
basado!
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>>56920751
>poison and sleep
evil
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When are they gonna let you pick a Pokemon trainer to play as
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TEHRES NO WAY MISTY IS 50/50 LYING FUCKING CHINKS
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>>56920751
That sounds fucking diabolical, and I love it.
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>>56920142
Add this to the list fellow top right Chad. Together we can make pokemon great again
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Guys how do I finish the Lapras shitty event mission advanced level ( win using deck where all pokemon are *,**,*** rarity) mission.
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>>56920142
>>56920767
Are we ever going to figure out if this shit is predetermined like the tutorial wonder pick is?
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>>56920737
Bug aggro with venomoth and beedrill. If you curve out properly you can kill pretty much anything. We're talking 130 damage by your second turn, 140 if they pass back, 150 if you have Giovanni, fantastic numbers.
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>>56920782
post deck
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>>56920782
>>56920789
I am also curious.
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Is there a way to reset wonder pick list if my only options are 1 cost crap?
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>>56920805
go to sleep.. haha!
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>>56920782
nice meme bro i just lost 4 matches with it
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Should I buy another garde to complete my mewtwo deck
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>>56920805
exit the game and go back in?
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>>56920782
whats the point of venomoth
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>>56920716
>Trading will make or break this game for me.
it will be absolutely needed in the future but now it's useless because i didn't pay a single time and i already have tons of cards and multiple EX of the same pokemon.

BUT... imagine if you are some normie that will join a 1-2 years later when there are shit ton of cards. There is absolutely no way you will be able to build a deck easily. you'll have to trade for that.
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>>56920737
Victrebel eggboi plus like 1 or 2 kang/farfetched, ran into it earlier and it looked good, that guy was playing the poison moth but not sure how to fit all that
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>>56920142
Why would you lie like that…
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I can't beat Mewtwo/Gardevoir deck, it's too powerful
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>>56920850
If you haven't rerolled for a meta deck by now then you deserve it.
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>>56920819
High damage stage 1 that you can retreat into Beedrill or an Exeggutor or something. 30 damage plus poison adds up to like 60+ damage for 1 energy, but you need something to swap to since you can't poison them twice. Beedrill and the Exeggutors are your highest damage options that you can access the next turn after poisoning them.

It's the more aggressive version of Weezing.
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>>56920789
>>56920801
This is what I was running tonight and it feels really powerful but I think you want Aerodactyl because otherwise it's impossible to beat a set up charizard. In place of the eggs you could play 1 fossil, 1 aero, 1 sabrina and another gio, maybe.
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>>56920894
well all I need is a kakuna to fill that out. I'm at the end of my freemium shit, so I might as well just to give me a variation on my parasect and exeggutor, luckily I got 2 ex's.
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I think opening packs while getting some dope head from a woman you plan to spend the rest of your life with sounds like a good time
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>>56920854
I don't own every cards you dimwit
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>>56920854
>want to reroll for a meta deck
>all want to reroll for cards I like
>can't have both
sad times
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>>56920914
lucky
all i got is some fat chubby girl who identifies as gender fluid giving me mid head
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Did the free bonus Meowth/Chansey/hourglass/event currency wonder picks dry up or something? Used to see 'em by booting the game every few hours or so, but got zero yesterday and so far seen none today too.
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>>56920972
No I'm not lucky yet just praying for a good outcome
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>>56920990
Also curious, I'm 3 away from the meowth mat.
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>>56920990
Yep event ended on the 14th
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>>56920996
Fuck, I just started yesterday too.
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>>56920134
Idk if that's even true. Like do we know if promos that are in the game now count for Mew or do we specifically need the Genetic Apex versions of the Pokemon? Just because they add different Kanto cards later doesn't mean they'll count towards the Mew
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>>56920996
Damn, guess I'll just play a quick battle for the dailies then. Fuck spending hourglasses on a wonder pick if there's nothing really good on offer.
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I can't fuxkin bring myself to grind this out man... Auto mode when
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>Exeggutor player using the Erika paypiggy coin hits heads four times in a row
really makes you think
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>>56921002
The idea is obviously that you complete the Kanto dex for Mew, there's no reason to make it so that you need specific versions for it.
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>>56921011
All skill btw
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Wonder Pick stam takes too long, if they're expecting us to waste it for a daily. It should recharge every 8 hours instead, so you can gamble for an EX once a day.
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>>56920134
>>56921002
>>56921014
>later sets, promos, events will all have Gen 1 here and there.
The mission is part of the Genetic Apex themed collections which only consider A1 cards
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>>56921018
They don't expect that at all.
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>>56921018
Just save your two free packs for your dailies.
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>>56921018
Once you pick one pack, daily can be completed with 1 battle, a second pack or a wonder pick
So I assume WP isn't expected every day
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How much am I bricking myself if I don't reroll for meta shit and just try and reroll for an Eirika or Sabrina sexo instead?
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>>56921068
You can buy Eirika and Sabrina with points. The same cannot be said about a meta deck.
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>>56921068
Don't be dumb and just roll what you want.
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>>56921078
The sexo versions of them cost 1250 though. Idk how fast you get these points by playing
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>>56921086
f2p you're not even getting one sexo version.
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>>56921018
Listen here niggatron, you can get your damn dailies by just opening one pack and doing one battle (it not only counts CPU battles, but even concessions).

You're not SUPPOSED to wonder pick every day, you're supposed to do it like once every 2 days or so.
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>>56920716
>>56920728
spark or wonder pick.

I already have numerous decks.
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>>56921091
Hence why I'm wanting to try reroll for one
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>>56920770
I used weezing deck I think and got it or maybe a jolteon deck.
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>>56920811
post your deck
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>>56921113
Yeah, you were saying that you're not sure how fast you get the points, and the answer is "not at all" because it's 5 points per pack.
I guess you could get one if you're really diligent the full 3 months or however it takes for the next set.
That said, picking them from Wonder Pick is a possibility, just not a very fast or consistent one.
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>>56920894
So I don't know if it's luck or it's just aggressive. But it's been a pretty smooth ride to 50 wins so far, close to 40 wins from 25.
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>>56921123
Oh I see what you mean. Then yeah fuck it I'll pull for it. Full art trainers are more kino than mons
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>>56920108
So far I've use;
Pikachu ex
weezing/arbok
weezing/nidoking
moltres/arcanine
moltres/centiskorch
Omastar
gyarados
Wigglytuff
primeape/sandslash
frosmoth


And all of them feel incredibly weak compared to my Starmie ex decks I've been building since recently unlocking my second Starmie ex.
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>>56921095
What's the fucking point of a feature if I'm only "supposed" to use it every two days, fuck off with that bullshit, it's the same complain everyone has with this barebones game: it's nothing but a waiting game. WP is supposed to help people complete collections, but even waiting a whole 24 hours doesn't give you enough stamina to attempt for a full art or EX without spending dripfed hourglasses, and we're still at the mercy of a random pick so 80% of the time you'll be getting a common duplicate.

We get ONE WP hourglass per day as a login reward, that's just a fucking insult.
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>>56921136
Agreed.
I wish I rerolled at the start for some, but it's too late now.
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>>56921068
If you're rolling for them it means you're rolling on Charizard packs, where the two best decks are probably Charizard ex + Moltres ex and Blaine, both of which are reasonably good. Sabrina is a staple card for everyone but Erika is only used in Grass decks so you'll need to get other cards from other packs to use her effectively, although Zard packs do Exeggutor ex. It's about a 1/400 chance of getting a specific FA trainer card in a pack
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>would like another alt Charmander
>already have 2 alt Rapidash
>will probably roll Dubwool anyways since it's technically the same odds of rolling those 2
>would have to use Gold instead of hourglasses for the refill
Should I give up? Just try pulling the Charmander normally?

>>56921010
Yeah, even if it results in me losing when I could've won by piloting, pvp needs an auto mode.
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>>56921150
absolutely not worth it imo
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>>56921150
What else would you use them for?
Sure, you may have 2 Rapidash already, but once trading is out, it MIGHT come in handy, so it's better than nothing at elast.
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Which account should I stick with? I pulled 30 packs in account 1 and 2 while in 3 I used up everything then I realized I only need one deck and I should be saving to pull for something I actually like.
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>>56921166
use one as a main, use the other two as trade fodder(see how trading works) and just pull packs on em

obviously keep 3 as a main tho... 2 golds wtf..?

im rolling 2 accounts on the side via mumuplayer
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>>56921139
quit the game.
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>>56921166
Stick with 3, trade everything from 1 and 2 is possible when trading drops.

>>56921155
I'll heed this.

>>56921157
I guess if I got enough Rapidash I'd make Blaine.dek with flaired horses, but I would really hope that my luck isn't so bad that I have enough horsies to hit flair *two* of them.
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>>56921119
Post deck If it's not a problem, thanks in advance.
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>>56921192
2x weezing
2x arbok
1x muk
2x koga
2x Sabrina

Try not to start with grimer. You want to have weezing out, Koga into arbok or muk for kills.
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>>56921199
How much better will this get once Dark gets an EX that actually dishes damage?
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Deoxys can change forms
>Normal = cost / early attack
>Attack = big dick dmg
>Def = tank
>Speed = attack bench
KINO INBOUND
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2 days until lapras event is done lads, make sure to spend all your stamind for free trannie tix
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>>56920169
You have a 1/200 of opening a god pack like this
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>>56921221
1/2000*
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bent corner chads we win again
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>>56921217
I'm honestly debating on spending the rest of my hourglasses for chances at Lapras. I imagine nothing in the next promo set will be as valuable as a meta EX, especially if we can trade it.
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>>56920169
ive been playing and paying since global launch and still yet to pull a god pack, what am i doing wrong?
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>>56921233
it's 1/2000, some people are just getting lucky and pulling theirs early

you'll get yours soon (copium)
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Golduck has to be one of the most underrated cards/evo lines right now.
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>>56920108
Machamp should be Planet-sized.
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>>56921246
90HP is just too squishy
Maybe if it only needed 1 energy
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Is there any basic QOL stuff you guys can think of? For me, it's turn markers in the Battle Log, as well as it outright saying what turn it is somewhere on the screen. Match History as well as Pack History would be nice too.
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>>56921232
how many do you have? I have a ton of packs I haven't even opened yet.
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>>56921255
>Maybe if it only needed 1 energy
That would make it the best card in the game
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>>56921256
being able to fully skip dex stuff when getting new cards. more search opens through your cards.
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>>56921265
I would've had 5, but I used one for flair without thinking they could be traded.
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>>56921273
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I'M GONNA DO IT
I'M REALLY GONNA FUCKIN DO IT
EAT SHIT AND GO FUCK YOURSELF, TOP RIGHT CULT
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>>56921276
Damn, you barely have any cards. What holos do you have?
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>>56921280
thank you goy I'll be taking your 3 wonderpoints
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>>56921280
CLOBBED
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>>56921280
Non-believers get what they deserve.
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>>56921281
it only shows how many cards you are searching for
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>>56921205
a lot, especially if it's a basic so you can get rid of x1 grimer x1 muk which is the shittiest part of the deck
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>>56921290
>>56921205
Idk if an ex would make it stronger. One of the things that's great about the deck is there's no exs so each KO against you counts for less and let's you win by attrition. You can often ko two of their guys before they can get 3 of yours and you can afford to trade 1v1 against their ex.
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>>56921289
Can I have your Zapdos? The one on the top left?
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>>56921298
I would imagine that since it's a slower deck, it won't have issues working around getting the ex killed.
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>>56921280
shit's predetermined bro (but every card is actually 1/5)
you just play an animation like the coin flips or the revolving card packs
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how hopeful are you that the next expansion is going to improve the meta? personally I'm optimistic because the added variety alone will at least make it less boring even if it doesn't end up balancing it
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>>56921306
If the ex gets killed there would be lots if opportunities to Sabrina in an Evans or arbok and one shot it. Idk I would only want to use an ex with this deck if it had ridiculously high health, low retreat cost, and something like
>omastar's ability
>arbok's ability
>muk+grimer ability to poison and also deal bonus damage to poisoned targets
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>>56921232
>meta EX
Misty is the meta. Lapras is just one device among many to come.
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>>56921316
>improve the meta
kind of wish you dumb fucks would shut up about that since 80% of you are just copying decks you saw on a tournament list anyway. I don't think there's a real meta yet as the game is just a few weeks old.
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>>56921282
FOUR
IT WAS FUCKING FOUR
I USED HOURGLASSES FOR THIS
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>>56921316
Don't get your hopes up. The way the game is design, the meta is only going to get faster and faster.
>>56921322
>80% of people are using the same few decks
>there's no meta
Ramblings of a drunk. You just need to play a few games to know there's a meta. It's evolving quickly like Arca9 going into favor but it's settling.
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>>56921316
this game is not mechanically consistent enough to have a real meta
you have a bunch of top decks which are "varied" enough by requiring a bunch of different cards and I think this will only get worse as time goes on but the lack of competitive leaderboards etc is nice and I hope it stays that way
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>>56921316
>improve the meta
it will never get better
enjoy it while you can
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>>56921334
>Ramblings of a drunk
Do you want to battle, you theory nerd?
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>>56921322
I've played a thousand tcgs and I've always liked building decks more than piloting them, but it's abundantly clear that the cardpool is too shallow to hide a different metagame than what we're having now, especially considered that 80% of it is just different variations of vanilla mons. then again this is precisely the reason why I look forward to the cardpool bulking out a bit more
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>>56920324
How does that body curve so well
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>>56921353
>thousand tcgs
name them all.
>>56921346
also love when you retard theorists dodge. All of your dumb ideas are just that. Dumb ideas. You aren't battle tested
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>2 points
>opp sends out no energy wartortle
>haha, easy win, I can oneshot this little guy
>misty comes up
>6 heads
>wartortle evolves into ex blastoise
>get hit for 160
>instant death
I fucking hate this card
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>>56921394
Yeah it's stupid but it has meme potential. Considering Lapras was the event, they knew what they were doing.
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>>56921394
>turn 1
>opp sends out Articuno EX
>only have a Charmander
>they use Misty, first flip is tails
>they immediately Red Card me
>I'm bricked for the rest of the game because I can't find the Charizard that was in my opening hand
When I play Misty.dek, I never hit my coinflips and all I do is run into Mewtwo decks with the fastest setup I've ever seen, but when I switch to Charizard, all I find are Pika and Misty decks.
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>>56920758
Try using Jolteon sometimes and see how tossing 4 coins averages out to 1 heads per attack.
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>>56920324
Lapras event is almost over. It's too late to reroll. It's over.
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The game becomes entirely pointless to play once you realise 80% of games are against Misty or Pikachu. Both so ovetuned that they're leagues above everything else in power-level.
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7566630617977143
Add me if you want to try becoming a Weezingchad.
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>>56921232
Isn't the next one Venusaur?
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>>56921011
To be honest, me Exeggutor also always rolled heads.
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will there just be really heavy restrictions on trading?
otherwise what is to stop people from just making a second account and rerolling for stuff to trade to their main for commons
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>>56921170
>>56921173
Why do you think they'll let you trade freely? I've played some gacha games but this game is like the stingiest of them all, they don't let you save anything at all that's why I made 2 alts in the first place.
Also 3rd account opened 80 packs while 1st and 2nd opened 30 packs, so those 50 unopened packs could POTENTIALLY have better result than 3rd account, but I think getting 2 golds from opening 50 packs is probably never gonna happen if I'm being real here.
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What's the best Pikachu deck? What are the other best decks? What are the MOST FUN decks?
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>>56921010
>>56921150
>pvp
>wants auto-pilot
>by definition is no longer pvp
You guys are retarded.
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>>56921316
Look at it this way: currently the meta is the way it is, because a few EX are just way too strong/fast. If they don't release something that's stronger and faster than them, then meta won't change. If they do, it will only get worse.
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Mewtwo
(All have 2 fossile, no Gio)

2 potion 2 Sarbina
1 potion 2 Sabrina 1 Aero
2 potion 1 Sabrina 1 Aero

Koga is a pretty difficult match up and in testing I won a game due to having Aero tank a hit and denying them the point from ko-ing the fossli.
It wasn't that amazing though and only lets me live 1 extra turn really as a meat shield, which is what having 2 Sabrinas does too, allowing the use of early Sabrina as a tempo play for better stalling,though there are definitely games where the 2nd Sabrina is dead weight, potentially the first one too. They are definitely kinda bad against Koga given everyone is strong, but it's good against Pika to help stall early game and to help secure prizes or easy kos later game if you need it, which Aero doesn't help with due to the lightning weakness.

I don't know how well aero techs against other decks but he is potentially around the same use as a second Sabrina in the misty match up, better if it's a Starmie variant forcing them to have a Gio.

I think I'll probably keep it better suited for the PIka match up, which also means double potion since if you can stall out long enough to have both copies then it forces Pika to have a Gio to 2 shot, same goes to Starmie which is, scary, honestly. Even just for single potion use having 2 ups consistency, though potions also have a tendency to not mattter in a lot of games.

Ultimately I see that including Aero, losing a Sabrina, improves the match up against Misty and Koga (and other random dark shit), at the expense of the pika matchup, and it probably doesn't fare too much better against Charizard unless you try to gust him back into the deck which is two turns of precious energy that Mewtwo isn't receiving, and same goes for A9 but the statistics say that M2 is the favored match up here anyway.

Just theory crafting and fine-tuning.
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Based Grimer dabbing on Mewtwo Ex shitters. He was my first and only active pokemon this game.
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>>56921483
https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-TCG-Pocket/archives/481340
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must feel humiliating to get beaten up by a 0 ex Pokémon deck when you're playing the meta
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>>56921483
>What are the MOST FUN decks?
The ones that use cards you like the most.
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>>56921316
I think the meta is fine for the most part. I doubt it will improve much; that rarely happens with games like this. If you’re hoping for variety, the best thing that can happen is to receive fighting and dark support that would put those types on the level of mewtwo and pika now. Those decks then become riskier to run, so you see them less often.

What will likely happen? We’ll receive something that btfo’s everything we have right now.
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>>56921522
I think the meta will change in who the most popular EXes are every so often, but otherwise I think it'll get faster and nothing else will really change.
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>>56921280
Pretty sure that's my pack you're picking from
If it helps, I don't even have a second copy, missed my last 4 WPs
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Wigglytuff/Vegas tree has been fantastic
Beats pika with plant, sleeps mewtwo
I feel like I have speed and bulk it's just low damage but I've found the bulk to be enough to offset the issues.
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>>56921316
the only way to "improve the meta" is to add more cards that create different strategies to play/win. but the game is intentionally simple so I don't think it will change much from how it is now.
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There needs to be a better way to buy flair for cards. Needing to melt copies of some of the rarest cards in the game is criminal
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>>56921471
that's a regular Venusaur
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>>56921483
>fun
Something like Greninja Seadra. Basically one that requires you to make choices and adapt instead of having powerhouse win condition.
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>opponent puts a Moltres EX on the field
>uses a pokeball, gets nothing
>concedes
??
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>>56921199
Unfortunately I don't have muk is there a replacement for muk.
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>>56921483
>What's the best Pikachu deck?
The one that runs Raichu.
>What are the other best decks?
Statistically
- Mewtwo + Gardevoir
- Marowak + (Primeape is better than Sandslash)
- Blaine Ninetales
- Arcanine + (Moltres?)
>What are the MOST FUN decks?
The ones without EXs. Or Marowak for coinflips.
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>>56921490
I think it's a bit more nuanced than that
basically the way the game currently is all pokemon below 100hp may as well be 10hp, that's almost all pokemon that would be good going first
which means there's no reason to build your deck in a way that takes advantage of going first and puts early pressure on the board, because it's gonna immediately get invalidated by pikachu and starmie going second
all the strong stage 1 beaters except for weezing are not in the game right now, there's no reason to play them; you'd be better off playing farfetchd, it's gonna die all the same

in theory they could release a bunch of strong stage 1 pokemon that can reliably trade hits with these guys and shift the meta in a way that'd allow more ≤90hp cards to breathe, even something small like giving non-ex marowak an extra 10hp could already shift the meta in a significant way
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Creating a card that works only against Pikachu Ex would probably the easiest.
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>>56921618
Arcanine EX without Moltres runs but you need Moltres to have it pick up any sort of speed. Otherwise you need to sit on Growlithe for three turns and that's not great.
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>>56920141
>>56920142
Nice edits
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QUICK PROVE TO EVERYONE YOU ARE A FREE THINKER POST YOUR OFF META DECKS!
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>>56921630
I run a double Nidoking deck because Nidoking is a cool pokemon.
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>>56921622
Sabrina stonks through the fucking roof
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>>56921641
Isn't it great? Both strong and risky.
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>>56920108

I got the fucking EX version of Venusaur, Charizard, Articuno, Gengar, Marowak, Wigglytuff (both EX cards), a bunch of rare cards including TWO mewtwo EX, but I got no fucking good basic cards. Trying to build a grass deck and I don't have a SINGLE butterfree.


I gotta say, collecting cards and battling is fun and all, but the game is heavily luck dependant.

PS: You can sub for 2 weeks for free. Do it then unsub straight away.
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>>56921624
I've been having success with my half ass Blaine deck with my Arcanine.
I have the 2 Rapidash 2 Arcanine and 1 Magmar.
But instead of waiting on Ninetails it's Arcanine. If you can snipe a mon they invested even a single energy with a Rapidash + Blaine combo you probably already won.
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>>56921647
>PS: You can sub for 2 weeks for free. Do it then unsub straight away.
I'm waiting for the new pack to drop before I claim the free subscription.
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>>56921316
>how hopeful are you that the next expansion is going to improve the meta?
The absolute best deck in the format only has a 55% winrate. This game is decided by the initial coinflip, which is an allegedly 50% chance; whoever goes first loses. The best deck in the game barely beats the coinflip. I think the meta is fine. What really needs to change is how going first works, but I genuinely believe that going first fucks you over so much on purpose, and that this is how the devs are "balancing" the game.
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>>56920108

>put moltres EX on the field
>give him an energy
put sizzlipede on the field
>flip the coin to generate fire
>in 2 turns get sizzlipede to 4 energy and moltres EX to 2 so you can back out
>get scolipede card
>evolve it
>switch out moltres EX
>130hp and 130 damage card
>If you're lucky you stuck moltress around longer and you have given rapidash, flareon or ninetales enough energy to switch scolipede out if need be and sustained moltress with healing items to ensure this happens while keeping it alive
>can win basically any game if the coin flip rng is good (three good turns in a row of 2 or more heads guarantees a win).
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>>56921316
Adding new supporters and items to the pool will will shake things up, unless they make a second back of specific supports like Koga/Blaine etc and we're stuck with Sabrina and Giovanni as general use
Personally I hope they add some energy removal
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>>56921658

I considered this too, but there are a few annoying cards I really want that would be very beneficial for my builds. There is no guarantee that the deal will be there later, either.
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>>56921630
I'm having fun with Machamp + Dodrio
soften everything up with the birds and Hitmonlee, then send in the champ to sweep
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>>56920324
This card is a meme, I should have used my points to get Erika instead.
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>>56920108

Starmie EX is so fucking busted. It's really hard to beat the last level of the lapras challenge.
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>>56921630
I am...a Gengar holder (still waiting for the 2nd copy)
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>>56921647

I just feel like I have so many really good cards but I am just missing one or two cards I REALLY need for the decks to shine.
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>>56921630
Gengar EX with Fossils + Kanga
I experimented with Psyduck before but you really want the extra meat shield.

I might even try a build with an Aero in it for extra survival + alt win con

It's honestly pretty fun and cool knowing your opponent can't Gio or Sabrina you, and if you manage to get him out quickly AND your opponent bricks then gg Misty.
He will only get better and better as we get stronger and stronger supports, and potential rare candy support too..
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>>56921630
Still trying to optimize it.
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>>56921617
you can just use it without muk and use 2 retreats or 2 gios instead
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>>56921647
>no butterfree
Buddy, we've been having an event for like 10 days that gives free butterfrees.
>>56921689
>missing one or two cards
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuy theeeeeeeeeeem. There's a shop specifically for this situation.
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>>56921630
Melmetal and aero are highly based and fun
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>>56921698
What do you run alongside the Melmetal and Aero?
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>>56921696

eh? what event that gives free butterfrees? Is it still on? I didn't see anything about that anywhere

>>56921696

You mean the one where you trade in the currency you get from getting cards? Yeah I have been doing, but you don't get that much. I need a gardevoir, butterfrees and some trainer cards. A magmar would be good too cuz I got the rapidash/ninetales and blaine already.
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>>56921720
>no fossil
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>>56921724
fossils are too meta
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Which pack do I open for Darks?
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>>56921719
If you can't buy a couple of cards from the point shop, then you're probably very new to the game, which also explains why you didn't know about the Lapras event.
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>>56921630
Alakazam.dek enough said, this thing is an unofficial ex
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>>56921630
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>>56921720
>doesn't even run 3 points worth of pokemon
it's genius, your opponent will never be able to win
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WHERE IS SHE
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>>56921726
Lord Helix doesn't approve of this.
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Always middle
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>>56921728

but I'm doing the Lapras event and I did all of it except the final one and I didn't get any butterfrees. Do you mean the promo pack card rewards you get? Those are one time only, right?
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>>56921630
I love him.
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>>56921739
There are 5 cards in the promo packs.
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>>56921749

Yeah I didn't get any butterfrees lol. Can you do the fights again for more cards? Guessing not.
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>>56921755
Yeah, man. Of course. How do you think I got like 20 Mankeys?
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->>56921755
>Can you do the fights again for more cards?
Yes, you absolutely can. The more difficult stages make getting a promo pack more likely.
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Misty? Pikachu? Mewtwo?

Yeah, no thanks for you.
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>>56921630
It's pretty nice and consistent.
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>>56921774
Sorry, bro. I rerolled for meta, because that's how you play gacha, and then the game never gave me any other cards. I'm not even joking.
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What are fossils for
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>>56921782
They evolve into the fossil pokemon. Alternatively, they're used as protection from Sabrina.
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>>56921782
You either use fossils to protect your EX poks from Sabrina (you can discard them from active spot if they don't get KO'd for free switch in) or just play off meta fun deck with Omastar/Aero. Kabutops is kinda meh.
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>>56921630
enjoy your 30% win and 20% draw rates
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>>56921630
>free thinker
I copy decks someone else figured out
>post your off meta deck
promo mankey saved itself but hopefully, we get a promo primeape or primeape ex, even though a no ex deck is nice
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>>56921788
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>>56921358
just like in real life
inorganic pose and camera angles
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>>56921788
Arbok/Weezing is considered “off-meta” and yet my winrate is 70%+ with it
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>>56921786
>>56921784
How many should I include? Will one suffice?
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the reward for achievements being shinedust and not pack points or even timer reducer things is fucking horseshit.
i really hate how much the game doesn't want you to play the game portion. no way to dismantle cards to craft new ones, you rely solely on opening packs for crafts and the rate is pretty slow for the useful cards.
i get they want to facilitate the trade function they plan on adding but i just think trading in a digital tcg is cringe. i dont know. i just want to make fun decks but my luck is so poor i have like 60% of any functional deck.
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>>56921720
>off meta
>articuno
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>>56921782
In most decks that they're in, they're "basic" fodder Pokemon that do not get tutored with Pokeball, making your Pokeball more valuable while also being a fodder body if you feel you "need" it.

They also evolve into the fossil Pokemon, but the only one that seems to really see any play is a one-of Aerodactyl.
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>>56921806
You don't really need them unless you run EX heavy decks, like double Articuno.
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>>56921759
>>56921758

Ahh I see, so every time you do a stage there's just a chance for a card to drop and the harder the stage the more likely

I still haven't beaten the most difficult one. All those EX cards are brutal and starting EX especially is fucked. Was thinking of maybe using snorlax and then chansey to just tank hits while I fuel up mewtwo ex
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>>56921706
1 kanga as i want meltan in hand as close to 100% as possible
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So how do I find the upcoming tournaments? I'd rather play in the larger ones.
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>>56921806
My opinion is that you should not use any fossils in your deck unless you also are playing Aerodactyl/Omanyte/Kabutops. Personally, I do not think the "fossil tech" is very good, because it only protects you from turn 1/turn 2 threats against bad decks.
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>>56921782
Free retreat mons that pwn Sabrina without fucking up your opening hand and pokeballs.

Some people play aerodactyle but I see no need for that in Mewtwo at all.

I'd really only play it in Mewtwo and Moltres decks though. Maybe Veno I could see them being OK.

I still can't believe how many people play an extra basic in Mewtwo. It's so so so so so so bad lel. I have NEVER not once EVER wished I had another basic in my deck.
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>>56921825
Join some discord, like pokemon zone one.
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>>56921829
Fossils are literally required in Mewtwo thoughbeit. Regular m2, Jinx, Khan, lmeowth are so fucking bad.
t. Mewtwo faggot
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>>56921841
>tranniechord
Ew... Sad what life has come to, but I wanna battle. Which ones have the 1k+ person tournaments? Just Pokemon Zone?
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>know that I can’t really complain
>past few dailies have been decent
>got two full-art rapidash in one day, for example
>yet I still seethe at the all common, dupe packs
The worst part is that I desperately need vulpix/ninetales, yet the game won’t shit em out. Budget deck, my ass.

Doesn’t help that I’ve been burned by several wonder picks with 60+% odds of a positive outcome, all within the past 48 hours.
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Why does Giovanni not deal 10 damage to enemy Pokemon when your attack flips a double tails for 0 damage?
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Should I go for Starmie EX wonder picks? I feel like it's a waste of 36 hourglasses to try and fail 4/5 of the time.
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>>56921848
https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/pocket-legends-league-7/details
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>>56921855
Don’t spend hourglasses unless you spot a really good pack (40-60% chance of success, minimum). I would try to pick up starmie ex through some means. The card will age very well if we get solid stage 1 support.
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>>56921842
>thoughbeit
Please stop using your reddit language here. This is not reddit.
>Fossils are literally required in Mewtwo
Nope. Regular Mewtwo is better (a bigger wall that you can also use as an attacker), Jynx is better (a bigger wall that you can also use as an attacker, which can randomly blow up decks), and even replacing that card with something that isn't a Pokemon is better.
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>>56921812
I am indeed a Mistycuno fag (2 artis lapras)
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>>56921863
>>thoughbeit
Ohhhhhhhh is that what it is? I keep seeing this shit here and just assumed that they were all esl-retards. It's even worse than I thought.
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>>56921810
yes it is off meta. you posted a different deck
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>>56921867
Then slot 2 ambers and 2 aeros and have fun.
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>>56921805
It's literally a mew2 counter
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>>56921870
>Ohhhhhhhh is that what it is? I keep seeing this shit here and just assumed that they were all esl-retards.
To be honest, I don't know, but it came to 4chan out of the blue sometime earlier this year (or maybe late last year), and it just keeps gaining traction, and it sounds very Reddit to me. I have a very hard time believing that one retard somewhere on 4chan typed that word and then suddenly an army of retards also picked up the word. 4chan just doesn't work that way unless it becomes a meme.
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>>56921874
different?
it's the same you fucking nigger
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>>56921880
read the cards anon. they are literally not the same
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>>56921861

Wait for a pack? Aren't packs constantly the same until opened?
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the premium pass should include a free wonder pick each day
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>>56921630
>QUICK PROVE TO EVERYONE YOU ARE A FREE THINKER POST YOUR OFF META DECKS!
I like this deck. I got someone playing charizard/moltres to rage quit after I healed all the damage I took in one turn.
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>>56921879
>>56921863
>>56921870
en wiktionary org/wiki/thoughbeit
>Originally used by the basedjak community on the 4chan spinoff imageboard basedjak party, it is now broadly disseminated across 4chan and internet as a whole.
inside job
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>>56921898
>it's soijak, not reddit
Thanks for the info, but what even is the userbase of soijak? It's absolutely post-ironic "unironic" """ironic""" shitposters, but are they edgy redditors or ESL zoomers?
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>>56921630
I finally got my second greninja, crafted the rest of the line to test it out. Still testing the.... *ahem*, waters. I've tried with potions instead of gios but now I'm gonna try this.
>>56921720
kys
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>>56921890
He was asking about wonder picks. There’s no point in spending your wonder pick stamina unless it’s almost full or you spot a pack in wonder pick menu that has high odds of success. I would strongly advise against using hourglasses for picks with a 20% success chance at this time.
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IF THEY'RE TELLING YOU NOT TO WONDER PICK THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU SUCCEED LIL BRO
NEXT TIME WILL BE THE RIGHT TIME
DO IT, DON'T LET IT PASS OR YOU'LL KEEP LETTING IT PASS OUT OF FEAR
GET IT
AND BELIEVE
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>>56921904
You probably don't need Xspeed with how cheap the frogs are.
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>>56921870
>>56921879
>>56921898
"thoughbeit" is /qa/ bullshit
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>>56921911
Yeah, I was thinking that too. Red card?
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>>56921930
>Red card?
Why not Pokeball?
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*clears throat*
Ahem
We need more Wonder Hourglasses
I'm actually kind of livid that I kept pulling unnecessary event tickets to hear they just get deleted since all 40 extra I pulled could've been auto-converted to WHGs at the end of the event
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>>56921930
>Red card
Very situational. Funnily enough it's often a dead card in my hand because people brick themselves.
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>>56921936
Wait, I think I did have a pokeball? What the fuck were my cards again? I did this from memory. Will check later, I've gotta go rn.
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how the blazes do I beat the final level of the lapras event? Starmie is so fucking good
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>>56921941
That picture absolutely does not have Pokeball, and I otherwise think it's a decent list. I don't know the breakpoints of that specific deck, but it's possible that Giovanni doesn't really do much either.
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>>56921937
they should've automatically converted all remaining tickets into like x25 dust each before wiping the event.

also, no in game warning that the event was about to end was cheap.
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>>56921863
I'm from the newfag generation 07, so if you're not a certified oldfag, lower your voice when talking to me. Call me a bigger, Jew, and faggot and you're my friend, but call me a Redditor and I will hate you forever.
Your opinions on m2 are bad too for obvious reasons. Enjoy not hitting m2 and gard as often as possible with your trash. Enjoy getting raped by Sabrina. Never EVER have I needed another basic or wanted one, and I have like 75 percent win rate against the field, mainly losing to exclusively weezing arbok and Blaine. I almost always win my mirror matches (usually because I play better than my opponents and because their deck has useless basics added). I almost always get Pika into a spot where they have to flip 3/4 heads w zappy ex. I win consistently going first despite the large disadvantage. I am so confident in my list that I'd bet large sums of money on it being the best deck in the game if you could somehow develop a bot that simmed millions of matches w every possible deck. Only thing I'm not sure of is to play 1gio or 1pot.
>>56921870
I saw it on /g/ and have added it to my vocabulary. Cope and seethe but it's actually humorous zoomer-slang.
>>56921898
I picked it up from /g/ and knew it was zoomer-language. Thanks for the history lesson.
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>>56921946
>how the blazes do I beat the final level of the lapras event?
tourney capabale pikachu ex/zapdos deck I assume. I get rinsed every time and I have a mid electric deck.
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>missing only a few cards
>could craft them
>if I do I won't be able to craft Special Art Sabrina
>but I'd then be able to hyperfocus the pack she comes from
Thoughts?
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>>56921956
Flip a coin
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>>56921956
>Thoughts?
if you're looking for one cara to finish your first elite capable deck, just get the one or two cards. the full card cards are ridiculously expensive.

if you've already got some elite level decks, then try to clean the missions out so you can get pulls for what you want.
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>>56921953
>I'm from the newfag generation 07, so if you're not a certified oldfag, lower your voice when talking to me. Call me a bigger, Jew, and faggot and you're my friend, but call me a Redditor and I will hate you forever.
This is the second time this week that I've had to read your copypasta. No one cares, man. It's an anonymous imageboard. Literally go to reddit if you want prestige for being a long time user. If you really have been browsing 4chan that long, you would know that we're all equally retarded. No one cares.

>humorous zoomer-slang
Bit of an oxymoron, doncha think?
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Can someone explain why my Dragon deck gets stuck on one type of energy?
It's so embarrasing I can't even take the deck into versus like this.
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How fun is a dragonite deck
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>>56921954

my electric is kinda shit too. I was thinking of just putting the zapdos out on the bench and changing between a chansey and snorlax as need be as both shields and ammo for the zap
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The rate of hourglasses in general is too low, they should be multiples of 12 every time and then gradually lessen after months pass, that's how other gacha do it, launch is supposed to be very generous since if it's this meh now then walking things back later on as gacha naturally do is going to get unbearably dry
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>>56921968
did you manually add the other type in the deck builder?
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>>56921969
>>56921968
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>>56921953
>I'm from the newfag generation 07, so if you're not a certified oldfag, lower your voice when talking to me.
I am genuinely and sincerely an olderfag than you. If you are truly an oldfag, then I don't know why you so quickly adopted what sounds to be clearly zoomer Reddit language. I'm an actual oldfag and I don't even wanna say shit like "cap", which has been around for much longer and at least has roots in the "boomer" lexicon.

>Your opinions on m2 are bad too for obvious reasons
I disagree, but post your exact list. I'll start playing yours instead of mine. I'll make a post in a day or 2 if I think it's actually better. I've already tested the fossil tech out and every time I had a fossil on field I always wished it was any other card, but maybe your list is different or I had a bad run.
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>>56921968
because the energy you get is random. which means theres a chance you get nothing but water energy for several turns. just how in the non pocket TCG you can draw nothing but energy for several turns
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>two zoomers trying to convince the other they're oldfag
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>>56921969
sometimes you get bricked because you're missing a lightning/water energy
sometimes you can kill an ex and a benched mon in a single turn and win the game
sometimes you'll deal 200 damage to a benched basic shitmon and your opponent's ex proceeds to 2 shot you
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>>56921989
I have old 4chan pics on an external, but they are from 2008 at the earliest, not from before 2007, so they wont prove that I'm an olderfag than this fossil guy is claiming to be.
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>>56921971
>my electric is kinda shit too. I was thinking of just putting the zapdos out on the bench and changing between a chansey and snorlax as need be as both shields and ammo for the zap
i don't even bother. I just stick to the intermediate deck and one of the two matches a day i get a promo pack.

even the advanced deck is too cheap to beat easily. my best deck is zard/moltres so there's no way I can use that in it.
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>play 4 matches
>only one thank you
jesus christ, what happened?
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>>56921977
I deleted the deck and will remake just in case; it didn't always have such a weird problem.
>>56921985
It was predictible like clockwork for most of my time running it through all the solo battles.

>>56921969
I don't have much to run alongside my dragons while they charge up so I just have 2 payday meowths to grab me cards quicker and porygon.
Having a Persian would be desireable for extra delaying and maybe for the energy knockoff potential.
It's a very all or nothing deck. Usually only one energy is all that can be alloted to a 2nd mon.
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>>56922001
people are sick of losing to meta shit.
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>>56921946
Sis, your Mewtwo?
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>>56921946
Flip heads with Marowak EX or run a Pika deck.
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God, autoplay's AI is so fucking dumb.
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>>56922001
I've stopped thanking M2 players
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>>56921998
>still trying
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>>56922001
play in tcg queue
don't play misty or pikachu crap
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>>56922006

takes a lot of setting up though. I guess I could pray for chansey and snorlax and use them to soak up damage till he is set up
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I've been logging in less and less since the free sub ended and this doesn't help. Venusaur event is in 2 weeks right? Hope my interest doesn't completely die off before then.
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>>56922013
I'm not even the one who tried to pull the oldfag card, anon, the fossil guy did.
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>>56922017
If they don't improve hour glass rates I think a lot of people will stop playing. There's just not enough to do right now but open packs.
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>>56922011
>God, autoplay's AI is so fucking dumb.
>oh no, your mon took a little damage
>time to switch out to this starter mon that will get one shotted the next turn
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>>56922023
>If they don't improve hour glass rates I think a lot of people will stop playing.
Personally, I think pack hourglasses are fine.

The thing they need to change is Woner Pick hourglasses. That shit needs to regen much more quickly, and it also fosters growth/community/retention in the game. If you could Wonder Pick more frequently, you'd be logging into the game more often to check Wonder Pick, you'd be playing more PvP to acquire more friends, and the devs could even rig it to give you the EX less often and people would still gamble, because getting the good card on a Wonder Pick feels a lot better than pulling a card from a pack.
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>start of match
>Opponent puts down 2 cards
>i place Hitmonlee instead of Machop in the active slot
Pottery
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>45 wins complete
>Solo mode done
>Every deck worth making is made

Now what?
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>>56922023
>If they don't improve hour glass rates I think a lot of people will stop playing. There's just not enough to do right now but open packs.
yeah once you reach the wall in solo match rewards there's nothing to do waiting for free packs. I find myself only logging in 3 times a day. once for dailys twice for packs.

and since we only pull 5 cards, giving us 3 pulls a day or more hourglasses isn't gonna break the game
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>digging charizard packs for 1 more egg ex and starmie ex
>get 2nd immersive charizard ex instead
i dont even have 2 charmanders...
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>>56922036
>45 wins complete
You do 5 more wins to get the dust and then you farm the 15 xp per win
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>>56922036
wait for expansions.
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>>56922042
I wish I could trade my immersives for shit I'll actually play.
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>>56922046
i wouldnt be complaining if i actually had the deck completed, trading when???
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>>56922043
What the fuck is the point of dust? I have a trillion dust already, I don't have any worthwhile cards to use it on since getting Dupes of EX's is insanely rare
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>>56922049
>trading when???
i don't even think they know how trading is going to work. haven't seen anyone talking about data mining in regard to trading.
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>>56922043
>15 xp per win
this needed to be at least 3x what it is to be even remotely viable means of leveling up
and considering that there's a 50 level cap and you only get 1 pack per level up that's still extremely stingy
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>>56922023
If you pack open too much, you'll find that the game is boring as shit when you're not hunting for cards that you want

Grinding battles is not fun when the meta is shallow
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>>56922055
The only thing they've explicitly stated is that trading for rare cards will come at a later date...meaning the ACTUAL trading people will care about won't happen come January, we'll still have to wait.
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>>56922049
>trading when???
January.
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Your binder is popular.... Right anon?
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>>56922065
>The only thing they've explicitly stated is that trading for rare cards will come at a later date...
so trading for commons will come before that? so they're gonna stagger trades? lol

>meaning the ACTUAL trading people will care about won't happen come January,
I'd think much later. like we'll get trading starting three months after launch.

they already know they've got us by the balls and we'll wait for crumbs.
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>>56922001
why would you give someone who beats you more tickets?
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>>56922077
Normally it's a nice gesture for a good game, but if I'm being honest, good games are rare in either form of the PTCG.
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>>56922052
You might in the future.
There's also always the small possibility trading will use it, at which point it's immediately important.
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>>56921693
>Duel Energy
Oof
For my Koga deck I like to throw in Hypno at 1 because Sleep and Poison stacks on each other instead of being Either/or
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>>56922072
Not enough! The friends list needs more details like who liked your showcase. If you don't like my showcase you're not my friend and you need to be purged.
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>>56921967
Then don't call me a redditor, faggot.

>>56921982
2 M2 ex
6 ralts
2 fossil
2 pokeball
2 professor oak
2 x speed
2 Sabrina
1 red card
1 gio/potion (still can't decide but if inhad to play a tournament right now, I do gio to hopefully lucksac a win against dark)

Make sure you play your fossils intelligently. Use them to time walk your opponent when setting up m2 energy on bench. When you're down to just m2 and fossil obviously pitch it so Sabrina can't get them an easy point, etc.

Play like 5-10 matches and report back. To me, it's obviously the best way forward, mainly because you maximize your % of but draws while also protecting ralts from a sabrina, which is extra important against pika where piks kills kirlia one shot too.
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>>56921998
Old fags are from launch-07
07-10 are newfags. We are same generation, my brother.
What is the most impactful thread you've been in? For me it was that dude who strangled that woman and posted it on /b. Everyone said was fake and then he was arrested for murder like 6 hours later.
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>>56921621
>in theory
Shut the fuck up up retard. you don't even battle anyone and you very likely don't even a single deck assembled. You have no idea what you're talking about
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>>56922081
This game is quite skill intensive, but most people who say it's all luck don't realize the lines they should have been taking or the deck modifications they need to make. I have some games where one player just snowballs a nut draw with no way out, but mostly when I lose it was my fault or it was against a horrible matchup.
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>>56921678
>getting filtered by the a.i.
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>>56922052
>What the fuck is the point of dust? I have a trillion dust already, I don't have any worthwhile cards to use it on since getting Dupes of EX's is insanely rare
where do you even look to see how much dust you have? lmao
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>>56921719
lol. another fucking retard
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>>56921739
lmao look at this retard
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>>56922141
>he's still fucking going
>it's a double post, even
I am from 2006, fake oldfag redditor. I used the family computer prior to 2008, and my mom formatted it after I disabled the dogwatch safeguard program that she put on it, so I don't have anything from prior to 2008 despite frequenting the site since 2006.

>>56922137
I will reluctantly play your redditor list and comment back in a couple days if I like it.
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>>56922145
oh no, thinking about stuff, how horrible
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how do you get the potion card?
or the one that makes withdrawal cost 1 less energy?
ive been playing like a week and still have none..
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>>56921630
I run a Hitmonlee/ Hitmonchan/ Greninja deck with only fighting energy and 1 misty
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Piece of shit lizard fuckers. Wait until we get Snorlax ex and then see how you fucks feel about 200 damage a pop.
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>>56922195
Need to complete tutorial in the battles
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>>56922195
Shop, they're pretty cheap
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>>56922150
>>56922195
>how do you get the potion card?
get 1-2 from the tutorials. buy an extra if you need it.
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>>56922201
>Piece of shit lizard fuckers. Wait until we get Snorlax ex and then see how you fucks feel about 200 damage a pop.
Charizard EX already does 200 damage a pop
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>>56922210
>>56922205
>>56922204
thanks bros
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>>56922214
Exactly, and Snorlax will be bulkier than it, so the lizardfuckers will get taken down a peg when it drops.
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>PVP winstreak event leaked
>need 5 win streak to get an emblem
wow such riveting events from Pokémon© Pocket©
thanks DeNA©
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>>56922226
Actually not that bad
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>>56922150
>This game is quite skill intensive
I'm not going to say that you can't outplay your opponent because you definitely can... but this game comes down to whether or not you go first. If you go first, you lose. If you go second, you win.

Sure, your opponent can misplay, sure your opponent can whiff their draws, sure you can make the one clutch play that you could make to win you the game, sure you could get a lucky/fortunate/well timed Sabrina for the win, sure your opponent could lose all their coinflips, but generally, if you go first you lost, and that's the game balance.
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>>56922222
you just kill the moltres, then sabrina after to kill whatever shitter's sitting on his bench. it's not that hard
also checked
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Found out that flair unlock can only be used on one card.
Super shitty since you can have 2 in a deck.
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https://www.twitch.tv/ursiiday

Anyone else gonna enter? I really thinking about entering since I think my deck is probably stronger than most I've seen.
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>>56922239
yeah this game is so half baked it's crazy
I thought something was up when the obtain flair menu said "owned: 1"
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>>56922236
Not him. You’re being a little hyperbolic. Going first is generally very bad, and I do think a lot of games are decided by that initial coin flip. Just going from my own experience with meta decks, I think mewtwo wins just about every time vs pika when the pika player is forced to go first. However, there isn’t a single deck in the game that is consistent enough to always win based on initial turn order.

Going first just doesn’t have a reasonable benefit in a meta where evolutions don’t have a lot of support. Might get a little better with time.
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>>56922241
why is she naked
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>>56922241
if you want to enter then go for it. she says you need to stream if you reach top 8 so have something set up just in case
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>>56922266
don't care. bout to sign up. I have a few deck ideas I think are really good
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>>56922270
How do we stream?
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>playing shit deck
>losing almost every match
>nobody thanking me

This system is shit enough to make me want to quit
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Oh look I fixed it.
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going first is a meta-problem not a game-design problem
I will die on that hill
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>>56922280
idk, Im not a streamer.
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>>56921877
and yet I play against mewtwo ~10% of the time. Curious.
I really think people are just bad, with time people will improve at the game. It's swarmed with casuals who don't actually know what they're doing yet, even in the event queue
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>>56922289
You’re halfway right. The game lacks consistency / firepower when it comes to stage 1 and 2 mon. Make that stuff better, and big basics have more competition. Most decks would really appreciate better turn one options.
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>>56922286
if you're silver or gold then sweaty nerds probably think you're wasting their time if you're not playing pika/mewtwo/zard
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>>56922287
I like this. Also Wheezing effect should be able to be used on the bench!
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>>56920108
GOOD LUCK FOR TOURNAMENT
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>>56922305
>Wheezing effect should be able to be used on the bench!
That would just make Weezing an auto include in every single deck.
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>>56922289
what meta exactly? your wincon for every single deck so far is draw beatstick, stack energy, opponent concedes
it's a meta in that you get to pick one of 3 or 4 beatsticks but everything else is the same save for a literal 10 point different in damage
this game is a gacha first and gachas barely require "skill" so much as financial illiteracy
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>>56922305
I knew brapfags were deranged but status never affects the bench, not even weakness.
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meta this meta that you ever met a girl?
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>>56922289
>we need to print a million more useable Pokemon that have >100 hp and an energy cost of 1, are playable turn 1/turn 2, possibly even with an ability (i.e. more Weezings)
>we need to print a Misty/Brock effect in every color
That's what you're saying. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but that's what you're saying.
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>>56922305
It'd become too easily abusable at that point.
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>>56922328
meta? I hardly know her
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>>56922289
I agree in the sense that I don't think they really need to change anything about the core system. It's just that the decks and options are so barebones right now that stacking energy on a basic EX mon is naturally the best strategy.
Evos and supports are almost irrelevant right now (except for a lucky Misty) and that's the one thing going 1st has over the other player. So as we get stronger cards and more options, going 1st is very likely to get better as a result, so I don't think it's a bad system.
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>>56922287
Somebody stop me from crafting muk. I feel like a one off in the Koga deck might actually be good as a final resort finnisher.
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>>56922350
I was waiting for Muk for a long time, finally got it, and winded up cutting it to just stick with Weezing/Arbok lines. Some people may use it, but I find it not worth it. It's hard to get into place and once you do, hard to get its energy up to attack. I'd rather use Arbok + Sabrina positioning for aggro pushes since Muk is too much of a sink to the point that it feels like a winmoar instead of a win con.
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>>56922350
Get Nidoking instead.
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>>56922313
you realize breakpoints are incredibly important, if pikachu did 80 the game would look a good bit different

>>56922331
not exactly more weezings, more exeggutors, something that can trade hits and not just die, maybe with a little less randomness
really, if all the stage 1 40 attack guys had more health, that'd do a lot

misty is a game design problem and shouldn't be replicated, brock is balanced due to his supported mons being shit
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>>56922370
>not exactly more weezings, more exeggutors
Weezing appears in the current metagame and Exeggutor does not. There is a reason for this.
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>>56922376
because weezing has type advantage against one of the most common decks in the meta

grass has the advantage against... marowak
he's also pretty hard to get off the board once he's there, which isn't always a positive
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Misty is balanced because you can just will the Tails to happen
If the opponent is trying to will the Heads, you just have to will harder
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>>56922398
>because weezing has type advantage against one of the most common decks in the meta
No. With every single post you are proving that you don't know wat you're talking about. First off, the problem *is* that going first is almost an auto-lose. I genuinely think this is what he game is "balanced" around.

Second, Weezing's type advantage has very little to do with its prevalence. There are decks that run Weezing and do not include dark energy, anon. He's a very good wall that either deals lasting damage or causes the opponent to switch out, and he doesn't even need energy to do it. And then, when he's low, you can Koga him out, deny your opponent of a point, and lay him back down, making him a reusable wall that denies opponents of points and also deals damage and/or forces a switch even in decks that do not turn Dark energy.

If you believe that going first is fine as is and that the real issue is a meta problem, then (as I already said), you are necessarily saying that there needs to be more energy-related Trainer cards, possibly even a "Black Lotus" effect, or there need to be more Weezing analogues. Or, they need to introduce something to the game that we don't have yet. If you do not agree with one or all of these statements, then you are forfeiting your position, because those are the only solutions to your position.
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>>56922407
>Need misty to win and get tails
She's trash
>Need misty to win and get heads
she's balanced.
There's no in between.
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Boy now that the premium ended I'm starting to really dislike the 2 pack a day cycle, I'd rather not get 2 free packs a day and instead get more storable pulls aka HGs, it feels like a nuisance to have to pull and then see I get nothing, when I could store what I want to do a committing dig when I'm ready
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>>56922437
>the gacha wants you to spend money
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>>56922437
Yeah I don't know why people say we should be grateful for 2 free packs a day when the devs could just give the same equivalence in the form of HGs to stockpile instead, which would be far more valuable since they could be directed and allow for tactical pack point buildup when you see something incredibly rare you want in the future.
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You fix Misty by only letting her target Starmie and Golduck.
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>>56922466
24 HGs for the daily login instead of 2 packs at opposite parts of the day would definitely make me a lot happier, feels like they don't want to allow us to prepare with how poor the HG trickle is
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>>56922479
This doesn't even solve the problem because you still die T2 to Starmie EX in that case.
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>>56922415
running weezing without dark is a giant meme, you're just setting yourself up to get swept by a charizard or something like that
your view on the game is wholly tainted by the current meta and you can't even get that right
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I haven't gotten a new card from wonderpick in the last dozen attempts and it's making me feel bad
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>>56922482
Regular Starmie, not Starmie EX.
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>>56922496
Wonder Pick is just a bonus roll for me, if I relied on it I wouldn't have anything.
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>>56922499
Then she would be an entirely dead card. Normal Starmie only requires 1 energy.
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>>56922496
There's a card I want in WP right now and I'm so scared to try for it because it costs 3 and I can already sense I'm going to wind up wasting the stamina after spending all that time regenerating it, already got burned failing a 4 stamina earlier that made me feel like shit.
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Is this deck still likely inferior to the one that runs Weezing?
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>>56922513
>Then she would be an entirely dead card.
Good, she can join Brock.
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>>56922483
>running weezing without dark is a giant meme
It is a viable strategy due to Weezing being good. Is it optimal? I don't think so, but it's possible, and it's not even bad to do it.
>you're just setting yourself up to get swept by a charizard
There are a million examples of instances where something is bad, just like there are a million examples of instances where something is good.

>your view on the game is wholly tainted by the current meta and you can't even get that right
I don't believe that's true at all. My view of this game is that it's a game that is literally designed for women and children to play, and that it isn't even trying to be balanced, and that the game is full of coinflips for a reason, all the way down to the coinflip that decides who goes first (and likely loses) each match. I think it is an integral part of the game, and I think that if you go into a match and you see that you flipped heads and you're going first, I don't think you should auto concede, but you should realize that you are fighting an uphill battle that is already against you, so when you lose while going first, you shouldn't feel bad because the game was literally rigged from the start.

I think that if you're playing Pokemon TCG Pocket as if it's the same as a "more serious" card game, you are doing it wrong, and you should just accept that we all live by the flip and die by the flip, and that the game is "balanced" around it.
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>>56922437
Speaking of, just got another dead pack of nothing but repeats
What a dumb system
Yeah I'm mad, there's reason to be
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>>56922352
>my opps flips
>my flips
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>>56922508
I only need about 20 more cards to get Mew and I'm still missing a lot of the rarer cards, but at this point nearly every pack is duplicates and not even any ex's or star rares. Hopefully trading makes things easier
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Reminder that when you’re sleeping you’re missing out on godly wonder picks.
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DeNA if you're here, please please create a system that converts unopened daily packs into like 6HGs as long as you're logging in and trying to save you still get something out of it.
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>>56922544
missing out on failing* godly wonder picks
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>>56922544
what do you think the rewind clocks are for?
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>>56922552
You don’t get to pick every expired wonder pick
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>>56920108
I lost my first round. First match did a bad Sabrina that costed me the match.

every match I never got pokeballs or a second basic so I'd just lose turn 2 or 3 to a Blaine boosted attack.

Not sure how many more rounds I can lose but this was some of my worse starting hands.
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>>56922526
How does weezing dragonite work? You just don't attack with weezing?
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>>56921811
>>56921836
Do they count as basic pokemon for Pikachu Ex's attack?
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>>56922570
You just stall with Wheeze Koga until Dragonite is ready.
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>>56922572
>Do they count as basic pokemon for Pikachu Ex's attack?
They aren't electric, so it doesn't matter either way, no.
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>friends are nearing completion of the Mew goal
>I'm over here getting bombarded by the same cards over and over again
I don't even think getting Mew would make me feel happy for too long since it's a hard 1 of that isn't even all that good, so I don't know what to do with my account anymore. Like some of you said, we're forced to open packs instead of saving toward the new ones, so it all just feels aimless.
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>>56922580
Pay 2 win babyyyyy
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>>56922570
Getting stuck with koffing while waiting for a weezing sounds pretty awful since there wouldn't even be any energies for it here.
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>>56922526
My opinion on Meowth is that he's nearly always bad. He's always used in some big setup deck that wants to build a Pokemon in the back, i.e. he steals an energy from whatever you're setting up. He can help you draw into your plan, but if you have your plan or were going to naturally draw your plan, he delayed it and gave the opponent a point, so at the end of the day, he steals an energy and gives the opponent a point. I don't like him.

This isn't a game like MtG. Meowth isn't an "Ophidian". Energies aren't the same as lands. If you could play Meowth on turn 1 for 1 mana, and then on the next turn draw a card while still being able to play 2 energy, that would be fine, but in this game, even 1 energy can be massive game-winning or game-losing tempo, and Meowth isn't just drawing a card in exchange for stealing energy, he's likely giving the opponent a point and he doesn't really take a hit, and he doesn't really deal damage, and I have personally never seen or thought about evolving him into a Persian.
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I love playing arcanine, somehow I haven't been curve stomped by M2 yet
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>>56922526
drop the snorlax and the pokedex, add another sabrina and a red card
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>>56922580
I get it. My game seems to think random 2-diamond (uncommons?) are the rarest cards in the set.
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>>56922604
The Persian is acting as deck filler, but also as a potential way to stall another turn for setup by evolving, especially if I have a potion. It has a unique ability built into the attack but realistically that would almost never see use.

With these dragons I find that there will be times where cat is just in the position to equip an energy to first and it can't be helped. So if I already don't have my dragon at least I can still do something to help me get one faster.

Weezing if I had another one to build with would certainly be useful but Koffing looks even more useless than Meowth.
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>>56922226
I had a 6-win streak when I started playing. Never got more than 3 after that.
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>>56922182
>talks about stuff you only think about and never did
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I feel bad for all my friends that get my dogshit packs as wonder pick, almost makes me want to unfriend people since I feel like I haven't contributed in ages
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>>56922580
Maybe start opening different packs and using your wonder picks on cards you don't have.
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>>56922264
Even if evolutions were more popular going first still wouldn't be worth it. If your evolved pokemon needs 2 energy to attack you're still fucked. Unless you do Misty.
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>>56922642
That sure would be something to start doing if I hadn't already started doing that long before you told me...
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>>56922308
Make it only usable if Weezing has dark energy attached?
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>>56920108
Is the Machamp deck any good? I kind of want a playset of this cool art version but I don't really want to chase it if it's bad given how rare it is.
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>>56922655
It's okay.
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>>56922533
look it doesn't even have to be a charizard, even the pikachu deck can just charge up it's zapods' and whatnot then run you the fuck over, whilst your fat blimp is sitting there farting for 10 a turn
it's bad against any sort of optimized list

successful gamblers play the odds, you don't understand the odds, you don't even know how the machine is rigged
I'm not saying this is serious, no children's card game is. you're annoying.
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>>56922549
This lmao
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>>56922655
Having to evolve twice to be a raw damage unit that only deals 120 is pretty bad, maybe a Bruno Supporter card could amp it up but as of present there are many better attackers.
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>>56921811
They are still a free point for the opponent. Wouldn't it be better to use any other stallmon?
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You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. That Wonder Pick with the FA you've been eyeing? It's not going to move into your inventory on its own.
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>>56922667
>even the Pikachu deck, which is already very good, can flip 4 heads on Zapdos and one shot anything in the game
>it can even throw away 3 energy to one shot Weezing with Raichu
>it can even, wait for it, it can even hit with Pikachu twice instead of just once
Wow... that's uhh... that's definitely an argument, yup.

>whilst your fat blimp is sitting there farting for 10 a turn
it's bad against any sort of optimized list
Why are you being retarded on purpose? Weezing is a multi-purpose wall that is reusable if you run him with Koga, and he doesn't even need you to play his energy colors in order to do what you want him to do, which can also cause problem Pokemon to switch out. That's why Weezing is good.

I'm going to remind you that this conversation what about whether the "issue" with the game is that going first sucks or if it's the meta. To anyone who has ever played a card game before, the issue is clearly that going first sucks and personally I think that's a design choice to "balance" the baby mode game made for babies. You're saying the issue is the meta. I said that if you think it's the meta, then you necessarily must also believe that we need more free energy cards in every color or even maybe better energy cards, and/or also more Pokemon like Weezing. Weezing is great, fits into any deck, is a reusable wall, and helps counteract the downsides of going first, because he also has 1 energy cost if you're running him on color. You offered up Exeggutor, and that's just not true, because Exeggutor doesn't see much play, because he's not as good as Weezing, and he gives the opponent 2 points. You need more Weezings, not more Exeggutors, but now you've lost what the conversation was, and you're trying to say... that Weezing is bad or something? I don't even know. You're lost.

>successful gamblers play the odds, you don't understand the odds, you don't even know how the machine is rigged
It's rigged that if you go first you are likely to lose.
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80% chance of fail btw
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>>56922714
>red card
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>>56922707
This. Don’t use your hourglasses for a 20% success unless you’re looking at a 2star that you need / want (completing a set). Pulling a specific 2star has about the same rarity as pulling any crown rare, and the 2stars are locked to individual packs.
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>>56922680
machamp's biggest strength is that he has reasonable power whilst ramping up, he doesn't have to hide on the backline. machoke is leagues above the usual intermediary stage 1.
you can also soften up big targets you can't oneshot with hitmonlee, those usually start on the backline
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Is venu weezing good?
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>>56922723
Weezing is best when used with dark energy. Better Pair Venu with some cheap bulky grass type like Egg.
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>>56922717
>unless you’re looking at a 2star that you need / want
I feel like just crafting it would be more efficient.
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>>56922716
Is red card bad? I have 600 cards so far but not a single Sabrina so maybe I’ll replace it with that card if it ever turns up.
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>>56922526
replace pearsian and meowth with chansey and or lapras
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>>56922723
I did my 50 wins for the medal with Venu/Weezing and it's pretty good. It has some complexity to it which makes it a real fun deck.
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>>56922701
yes, bad players exist, as is evidenced by your posts
there also exists a regular exeggutor if you didn't know, which would be the more obvious parallel

whatever man, you win, I'm done talking to you
going first is a 100% death sentence and weezing is an impenetrable wall, these are immutable facts
you've got it all figured out
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>>56922739
>requires 1,250 points / card
Do you?
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>going first
>land 3 heads on articuno
>win instantly
Going first bad?
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>>56922783
congrats on discovering the only deck that likes going first (and <10% consistency for that exact hand and combo)
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>>56922768
>there also exists a regular exeggutor if you didn't know, which would be the more obvious parallel
It's beefier, but you can't Koga it, and I think it's probably dumb to play it without running green energy, whereas Weezing just works and the poison (which doesn't require energy), is a lasting effect that requires a switch out on problem mons, lest they die to whatever you're cooking in the back or maybe even just die to poison.

If what you're saying is that the meta need more Pokemon so that going first doesn't suck, you need more Pokemon like Weezing that actually do things. For example, I think that Butterfree is kinda close to a Weezing, if it wasn't a threevo or had a different attack. I think Hypno is kinda close to Weezing. You could maybe even throw Magneton in there if his attack didn't cost 4 energy. If you think the meta is the problem, then I think you need more utility mons (or more trainer cards) like this to help the action/energy economy deficit that you face when going first. Exeggutor doesn't really do that.

>going first is a 100% death sentence and weezing is an impenetrable wall, these are immutable facts
I did not say either one of these things, nor are these things the premise of this conversation. You first said that you think the meta is the "issue" with the game rather than going first. No matter what you think, this statement reveals that you do acknowledge that something is "wrong" with this game, but through talking with you, I seem to have a better grasp of what you claim your opinion to be than you do.
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starting to think this game is not it
finished building a long project deck a few days ago but started feeling an emptiness again after playing with it for a bit, not really having fun after all that work
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>>56922825
What deck?
Hopefully new modes and cards breath more life into this game.
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>>56922822
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>>56922825
lmao same
i finally built a venu ex deck, played 3 games with it but feel and felt empty the whole period
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>>56922604
I've won a decent number of games thanks to Meowth. You do need to know when not to use him, though. It's the same with any frontline staller in a backline-heavy deck. I win the game if I get Blastoise to 5 energy, so I always have to weigh the possibility of that vs. the potential damage my Seaking or whatever can do in the meantime.
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>>56922832
charizard, just got the 2nd immersive recently
I like the cards themselves but when it comes to the playing it's not what I thought, especially since the best part of the deck in charizard has to wait on charmander and charmeleon (and moltres) to finally get going, meaning most of the time I'm not even enjoying the charizard but instead these other cards
the charizard portion of the battle is so small because he just comes out to win quickly, meanwhile being on the other cards makes up the main portion of the battle
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Hi. Question, the event stamina itens.
Should i use It, or i can save It for next event???
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>>56922868
Use it before it ends.
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>>56922701
It's not that going first sucks. It's that going second ROCKS. Every time you go first, your opponent gets to go second. 90% of the cards in this game are way stronger when going second. Even if you prefer to go first, your opponent is having the time of their life.

I have multiple decks that actually prefer to go first, but it's still easier to win going second, because my OPPONENT'S deck is going to fold like a wet blanket if THEY have to go first. I can build my deck with as many Rapidashes and Clefables as I want, it's still going to be easier to kill Pikachu and Mewtwo when they're 1 energy behind.
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>>56922868
Chances are we wont get the eventglass for the next even so unless you haven't gotten the cards you wanted I say save them. I spent all of mine when I was in the mindset we would get a new stack for the next event.
But >>56922871 is also a possibility, we don't have enough information to make the best decision.
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>>56922883
tldr: going first sucks
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>>56922888
For your opponent, not you. So it's better to go second to make them experience the consequences of their poor deck building.
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>>56922655
180 HP and 120 unconditional damage will tear through a lot of things, the problem is being a Stage 2 EX that you want to keep on the bench until it's time to evolve because even starting from Machop, they have high retreat cost. If you want to play Machamp, in my opinion, it's mandatory to have at least two sets, it feels really shitty having your only Machoke or Machamp at the bottom of the deck. Support them with Hitmonlee to disrupt the opponent's bench and maybe one copy of Primeape or Sandslash.
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>>56921617
You can use it without Muk, but it bears noting Muk is your heavy hitter. Weezing+Koga+Muk does 120 damage plus poison.
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>>56922749
Red card is good but it's the hardest card to play properly.
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>>56922655
Never played it, but it seems good to me in that every stage is useful. You're not stuck in a situation where you have to protect your mon in the bench until it's useful. Machop and Machoke both have decent hp and attack while having low energy costs. You can just keep ramping up.
As long as you draw in the right order, that is.
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>>56921483
You're missing the point of the first post, my dude.
>doesn't bother trying the deck
>wants other people to just give them their experiences so he can skip to the finalized product

I'll say it again, redditor.

Try the deck for yourself.

Throw whatever shit you want into the deck and find out what works.

Try thinking for once.

What felt good and what didn't?

What slowed you down? Are there any alternatives that are faster/cheaper/stronger?

What are the trade-offs?

Figure this shit out instead of asking for strangers to spoonfeed you.

Holy shit, how do you even enjoy the game if you don't want to play it?

Are you honestly telling me that pro-players never try their own shit out and just wait for a bunch of nerds on /vp/ to theorycraft for them, Mr. "Professional TCG Cicle"?

There, I even put breaks in between each sentence to help with your reading comprehension.



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