the most forgettable rival
More like the rival that forgets you exist the most
I remember his rage
hey, heads up.
>>56924884...is from XY
he's handsome doe
>>56924884These literally who
>>56925034I hate that loser FAT fuck so fucking much and the whore and the twink should have been the same character
>>56925034the fatass is known for having the weakest theme team possible and the girl i think you fight more than twice, what the fuck is the middle niggers deal? hes gotta be the most forgettable thing in xy, even more than the flare admins
>>56925057At least Tierno has more identity than the dwarf and the nigga together
>>56925079jump off the prism tower tierno
>>56925113Envy?
>>56925034people remember shauna for being a potential love interest
>>56925034From Bulbapedo:>From then on, Trevor occasionally engages in his own kind of battle with the player, comparing how much each has completed the Pokédex and losing every time.>losing every time
>>56924884He's the most memorable NPC in Gen 5.
>>56924935>>56925034you seethe about them so much that they aren't forgettable
>>56924884Did he ever actually get that Pokemon they stole from his sister back? Even she was like >Dude, chill, it was no big deal.
>shadow triad literally cuckolded hugh before his very eyes>it only made him angrier and stronger
>>56925194>people remember shauna for being a potential love interestHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>56924884Gen 5 is the most forgettable Geneven Gamefreak forgot about it and it got SKIPPED!
>>56925249No, she'd arguably be more memorable than Serena if it wasn't for the anime. As it stands Calem is genuinely discussed way less than Shauna. Doesn't make her good, and it doesn't make the rest of the crew any more memorable.
>>56925249>ashnimefag detectedLMAO
>>56925396>pathetic coomer detectedI don't know where you got that Shauna was remembered for a stupid and ridiculously inoffensive scene, but to top it off you put an image of the gayest pokeboy with more crossdressing art
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>>56925034I remember them quite clearly because of how fucking shit they wereHugh is more just kind of there, especially since he's so massively overshadowed by N and sort of Cheren given he turns into a gym leader which is pretty coolTHIS is the actual most forgettable rival though. No one remembers this nigger. He's just Blue if he modern pokemon.
>>56925065He wanted to fill out the Pokedex and always tried to challenge you to catch more Pokemon than him, except he was scripted to always lose no matter what.
>>56924884Rivals ranked from coolest to least coolestNSilverMarnieGladionBlueCherenBiancaWallyBede BarryBrendan/MayKlaraAveryHauHopAll those faggots from X and Y
>>56925617I forgot to put Hugh on the list I'm gonna fucking kill myself
>>56925583no one remembers him because no one played his shovelware
hugh is my favorite rival, I know he's the subject of a lot of bait threads so it's hard to discuss him but he still makes me smile
>>56924884Wouldn't hop be the most forgettable? Does anyone even have anything interesting about him or wally but wally doesn't feel like a rival? also I hate cherrim and Bianca but they're not forgettable I guessBlue is the OG and a likeable dickheadsilver is an edgy dickheadWally and may/brendan genuinely forgettable except for the ORAS butterfly sceneBarry brash rival that's cool, has a dad that runs the battle towerCheren and Bianca, I can't say anything nice about themN, Saving grace of the bw rivals also having a legendary is cool in the final fight.Hugh I like him because rage and also having a rival that doesn't really care about the league is uniqueKalos quartet: bad but infamously badHau: has a cool grandpa and reverses the gen1 rival thing where you're a step ahead of himHop: has a legendary? idkMarnie: girl that people find hot definitely one of the more popular modern rivals for better or worseBede: shittier blue and silver and somehow more faggy then both of themNemona: WAKU WAKU yandere memes are all she's known for Kieran: Kekhold
>>56925640Even if they didn't, if he had literally anything at all going for him then he'd at least make his way into the public consciousInstead he's a complete nothing character. All the pacing beats of Blue but his character is just smiling and waving blankly. Don't know what they were thinking
>>56925617>>56925624>hugh confirmed the most forgettable rivalthread's over, go home
>>56925659I forgot about gladion somehow: he's the classic tough guy but actually nice trope and runaway from a powerful family trope into one. He's not bad imoAlso the gen 8 dlc guys are not rivals imo but here's my ranking:BlueNHughBarry SilverGladionBrendan/MayWallyHauKierenMarnieNemonaHop?BiancaX Y quartetCherenBede
>>56925617>N>Top of the listHe's a huge faggot twink bitch who got manipulated all of his life and has severe autism, he's got stupid hair, a shit outfit, and isn't even a rival (Cheren and Bianca are the rivals in BW1), he's an evil team admin.Real list:SilverHughBlueEveryone else who gives a shit
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>>56925954Yeah and Silver is just some edgelord with daddy issues that follows around a stranger and gaslights himself into thinking getting his ass beat makes him better than them
>>56925979>bulbapedo
>>56924884Literally who?
>>56926413literally hugh!
>[Character] rival is forgettable!!! Then why do you retards remember it?
>>56925241Yeah he gets it back after you take on the shadow triad and beat them
>>56924884Hugh's not a rival. He's just a guy who knows you and happens to appear now and then. He doesn't care about you in that way and evidently neither do most players
>>56924884He looks like his name would be Werner
>>56924884XY rivals
>>56925236hi yawnfag
>>56925617>Marnie this high up>Hau above HopThat alone means you have bottom of the barrel taste holy shit
>>56927108Hop IS just a Hau clone to be fair but yeah, Marnie barely had a presence in game and didn't do anything particularly "cool"
>>56927186No, Hop and Hau are nothing alike>Hau: dude malasadas lmao also I am very chill I don't care about anything :) except malasadas yum>Hop: I really look up to Lee and thought I could follow in his footsteps but turns out I'm shite at battles :( Guess I'll become a professor instead :)They look similar and have a similar name but they have completely different personalities and stories (although Hau doesn't even have that)
>>56927862>although Hau doesn't even have thatCorrect, because Hop exists. Up until the very end of SS they act exactly the same.
>>56928083They really don't.
Do you guys not know what forgettable means? It doesn't mean "I forgot it". it means "this is able to be forgotten moreso". It tends to boil down to being uninteresting, shallow, and/or unoriginal relative to other rivals.
>>56927862One is an annoying hawaiian pandaring.The other is an annoying pajeet pandering.Both of them are unsufferable, Game Freak never had any clue how to write a "friend" rival and that's why they started by making 2 motherfuckers with Blue and Silver and spoiler, even 30 years later they are both the most popular rivals not even close.All the rivals the games present you as your "friends" are gigantic faggots and I could never be friend with any of them whatsoever. Barry jumps you like a spaz at any occasions, May has no personality, the gen6 crew are literally "the loser kids" they look like they escaped from Big Bang theory, Hugh is a gigantic edgelord even if his revenge quest is understandable the fact it's the only thing driving him forwards makes him feel like bejita. Hop and Hau don't have anything going for them except "im smiling and trying my best".The only exception are Cheren and Bianca who, despite being a bit bland, seem very friendly and level-headed in my opinion, also they don't gang up on you with their broken ass team out of nowhere like Barry does.
>>56925034Sina and Dexio should has been the XY's rivals, damn even Emma could has been a WAY more interesting rival, what the fuck they were thinking?
>>56926449>13 hours later >Not a single rebuttal
>>56929122see>>56928129
>>56928129Forgettable doesn't mean shallow/uninteresting or whatever negative connotation you wish to assign to it. It literally means something that is easily forgotten.Concord was a flop of the century. It was shallow and uninteresting. We're not going to ever truly forget it though. Same with Morbius.Hugh isn't any more shallow or unoriginal compared to other rivals. If anything he's better made than them: he has an actual motive and a violent drive. He stands out compared to all of them.He's forgettable for other reasons. Reasons like him not really caring about the player like other rivals do, which stands out because every other rival is either choking on your dick or hating your guts. He also only exists in the "third version" of the game, B2/W2, making him a tad bit more forgetful compared to the rivals who were present in all versions of their game.We can think of plenty of reasons for him to be forgettable, but none of them are because he's shallow/uninteresting/unoriginal.
>>56929589>forgettable stems from other descriptions>but not those, other onesThose don't mandate forgetability either. There are many memorable third version characters, characters that don't care about the MC, and probably all the other "reasons" you can come up with. This is, after all, the same standard you used to judge my forgetability indicators (finding an exception). Obviously, exception don't disprove tendencies. And it tends to be that the most bland, shallow, unoriginal, uninteresting, and unoriginal ones are the ones to be forgotten, exceptions be damned.I'm not even applying any of these to Hugh per se and a view him relatively favorably. I just seek some definitional clarity.
>>56929627They do though. I was giving reasons for them to actually be forgotten, while you were mutating it to "thing bad = thing forgettable"We are not the same.
>>56929633>I was giving reasons for them to actually be forgottenHow are your reasons any more valid than mine? Your only gripe against mine are exceptions, while yours also have exceptions. It would take a fool to say "no characters from third versions are memorable" and "no characters who don't invest in the MC are memorable". These are obviously just as wrong. My reasons are also reasons to be forgotten on an equal scale. If something is uninteresting and boring you literally tend to think about it less and therefore remember it generally poorly.
>>56929658>Your only gripe against mine are exceptionsNo, my gripes are that you don't understand what forgettable is.If it's easily forgotten it's forgettable. Not whatever nonsense definition you apply. We can come up with reasons for something to be forgettable depending on context, but those reasons then and of themselves are entirely context-sensitive.These "exceptions" are important in context. The reasons I've listed are plenty valid for Hugh to be forgotten, while the reasons you've listed are not only rife with exceptions they're just plain wrong. Hugh has a lot more going for him in the "uninteresting, shallow, and/or unoriginal" departments.
>>56925194>people remember shauna for being a potential love interestA garbage one she's not at all attractive
>>56924884apparently not forgettable enough to warrant someone making a thread, thoughever
>>56929692Again, not talking about Hugh specificallyTry to see if you can follow my chain of logic:Pure definition: Forgettable means more likely to be (or more able to be by more people) forgotten/misremembered etc.Step 2: This can be caused by attributes of the subject (in this case characters)Steps 3 and 4 are interchangeableStep 3: What you said. These are "exposure" factors, so to speak. I happen to disagree with the "third version" reason. I interpret the original definition as "if you're exposed to it, how likely are you to forget it/how easily will you forget it". It's sort of like a "per capita" of what percent of people who experienced the character remember it. Step 4:For whatever reason, you seem to maintain that no attributes of the character itself can make it forgettable, I disagree. I'm not just saying "bad = forgettable". If something is more actively repulsive, it strikes your brain more and so you remember it, but it's in a negative way so the character is bad. What I've been arguing is that there are ways to execute a character that literally strike your brain less and make you remember it less. Nothing to do with being bad even if there's overlap. Movies, for example, might have a specific nameless character always alongside the main one that will be les memorable, but doesn't means he's a bad character. If there's just nothing to the character, there's no reason for the mind to store extra memories of it relative to characters that have more bearing.So I don't really see the issue with what I said. Boring characters intrinsically are tougher for more people to remember for longer since there literally isn't so much material to remember. Same with shallow and unoriginal characters. The brain simply remembers unique things better, Unique could be bad too while still being more memorable.Please tell me exactly what point you still lost me.
>>56929747>I happen to disagree with the "third version" reason.It's not a "reason" in the way you imply, it's a contributing factor which when contextually combined with the others adds up to a character people see but don't really care for.>What I've been arguing is that there are ways to execute a character that literally strike your brain less and make you remember it less.And these are context sensitive. What makes one character forgettable might make another memorable. You can't point to any one reason and say "that's the definition of forgettable".Hugh isn't shallow, he has more motivation than the majority of rivals who are just along for the ride. Neither is he unoriginal, because his motivation is wholly unique and his violent tendencies are only shared with the GSC rival. Uninteresting is down to personal taste, but his large disregard for the player compared to other rivals can certainly make him uninteresting since there's no narrative link between the two of you.Zinnia, for example, was something like a third version character. Unlike Hugh however this played out in her favor thanks to context.
>>56928129A forgettable character is someone who has no impact, therefore they don't leave a mark, you just delete them and everything stays pretty much the same. It doesn't matter if they're charismatic, interesting, shallow or attractive. Almost no one remembers BW2 because of Hugh unlike Silver with GSC, but I still wouldn't say Hugh is forgettable but rather a small niche character like Wally. Truly forgettable characters are Trevor, Shauna and Tierno in XY and maybe Chloe in the anime Journeys.
>>56924897FPBP
>>56924884Gen5 is flop forgettable gen
