Do they really need a new region for every single new game? They begin to feel trite and irrelevant particularly when they are just "based off France!" New gens should set themselves within established settings, but within smaller zones - e.g. I hear the new generation is going to be an archipelago style "based off Greece" .... well why tf don't you just make a set of islands that are adjacent to Hoenn and work within your setting. Insteed they create meaningless worlds again and again.
>>56928840I need new game set entirely within Johto, completely without Kanto. Having to share GSC/HGSS with Kanto meant it always lived in Kanto's shadow. Johto needs more TLC and attention to flesh it out so it can work as its own standalone region on par with every region since Hoenn. Let Johtomons populate Johto not as rare outsiders but as the main Pokemon of their own regionand give a satisfying payoff to the Unown mystery so they stop being worthless collectible shitmons
>>56928915I think the problem would be they feel the need, and perhaps the audience demands it, to introduce a new set of Pokemon every gen. So you need a way to facilitate that. So I can't see a mainline game ever fully going back to a region.
>>56928840>but within smaller zones - e.g. I hear the new generation is going to be an archipelago style "based off Greece" .... well why tf don't you just make a set of islands that are adjacent to Hoenn and work within your setting.Because then you couldn't have a Grecian setting since Hoenn isn't PokeGreece you fucking moron. It has it's own style.And smaller zones? Why the fuck would you want less game to play and explore?And just to drive it home, apply your logic to any other game series.
>>56929164You dont make the actual game smaller idiot, you just zoom in and expand the islands etc. >Because then you couldn't have a Grecian setting since Hoenn isn't PokeGreeceYeah I'm saying no one wants PokeGreece or PokeAnything it's all gay and hackneyed.
>>56929183>I'm saying no one wants PokeGreeceLiterally everyone wants that since it makes regions more interesting to explore than just gen 1 style grass and trees
>>56929164>Because then you couldn't have a Grecian setting since Hoenn isn't PokeGreeceIt kinda is, considering Santorini is in Hoenn. Kinda speaks to anon’s point that they should stop making blatant theme park regions and make something actually interesting like Hoenn again.
>>56930890exactly!
>guise they used Greek aesthetics for Yakuhima so they should use some random bumfuck islands instead of Greece cause I have severe autism
>>56928915This makes 0 sense and you're retarded.
>>56931819It'll make sense once you learn to read, retard>>56928947Johtomons are full of evolution potential, so a new gen set in Johto can be mostly evos to Johtomons and the rest are new Pokemon to take up the role of rare encounters left by the Johtomons who are now common encounters and roles left by Kantomons without a Johto counterpart to fill in their absence
>>56932039No, he's right, it makes no sense, because Johto isn't unique or compelling enough on its own. The Johto games folded Kanto in as a "bonus" but really showed how lacking Johto really was, the anime got executive-meddled to death to the point everone but the actual target audience dropped it and moved on due to how boring and uneventful it turned out.They never saw Johto as anything BUT a regional expansion for KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Crying about it won't change that.
>>56932039>>56932055You're both retarded. Every response just brings out more retards.
>>56928840I actually would love more " in past or future" games.
>>56932062I'd only want it if they aren't as unfathomably lazy as PLA was with most of its character designs.>look! It's Mars with a different name!>"Isn't that kinda hackneyed?">no 'cause see, she's Mars' ANCESTOR! That makes it okay to blatantly and shamelessly recycle her design!
>>56932055>Johto isn't unique or compelling enough on its own. The Johto games folded Kanto in as a "bonus" but really showed how lacking Johto really wasExactly why it needs a new game focused exclusively on it to solve that. Kanto in GSC wasn't a "bonus" at all, GF made (the stripped down) Kanto a necessary second half to the game. But doing so meant Johto had to share features with Kanto, resulting in it lacking the unique draws that Kanto and other full-fledged regions from Hoenn onwards had because they never saw Johto as anything but a minor extension to Kanto.And that's why Johto needs a new game without Kanto so it can be more than what it currently is and become its own standalone region on par with the rest.
>>56932060Too late, you're one of us now.
>>56932060Sorry son, Game Freak JUMPED at the chance to add Kanto, instead of expand Johto when Iwata compressed their shit for them.That should tell you EXACTLY how they feel about it. Instead, you're bitching that Game Freak see it as the hick baby brother to the Prime region of Kanto.
>>56932087Doiesn't matter, this is how they chose to present it, meaning that's how they ultimately view it - an also-ran to Kanto, not important or compelling enough to be sole focus. Why the everliving fuck do you think THAT would change?
>>56932094Replied to the wrong post, retard.>>56932096Thread is talking about how they dont need a new region for new gens in spite of their current and flawed view. Read the OP next time, retard.
>>56928915Let's Go Togepi in 2027!
>multiple regions bad!!I swear to God, I see the dumbest motherfuckers on this board.
People are laughing but this would be kino as fuck, as B2W2 proved. What makes the Trails in the Sky games so iconic is how all three of them, 40+ hour games, are set in one region
>>56932271Multiple full-fledged regions good, multiple half-baked regions bad. That's not hard to comprehend, you dumb motherfucker.
>>56932135The OP ignores one crucial fact - the games and region are a product of a particular era. And how they get presented is ultimately how GF view them, considering they've abandoned the laughable modernisation of old games while still retaining everything else as presented originally to just port the old game wholesale and call it done.So yes kid, we do need new regions every Gen, because Game Freak see their presentation of past regions as definitive.And I replied to the post that quoted me, not my fault the fuck who quoted me is a manchild fuck seething his childhood isn't lauded by the world or Game Freak, despite being crucial for his development into the retard I see before me.>>56932271Considering you cunts cry Game Freak can't even do ONE region "right", much less the size and scope of the games has expanded exonentially since the days of coding in BASIC for a fucking 8-Bit system, yes multiple regions bad, because it's not a CYOA book, you glue-huffing troglodyte. Get out the dinosaur era with your expectations for the series, they cut the dex in 3D already, what honestly makes you think they'd ever do two again? They DID male a mini area Unovan-in-lore but still code the game to record the pokém,on as originating from Paldea.
>>56928840People expect the same formula in a fully new context, giving people a Hoenn side/up grade game may confuse them into thinking it's a remake / sequel, instead of a new generation. You could argue Gen 2 did it but it's been 2 decades and I doubt you could keep both GF and the fans focus off the nostalgia bait, as opposed to a majority focus on new content. That said I would still love to see an actual sequel game to an older generation as opposed to remakes.
Do we visit the other region? if not then what is the point of even arguing this? You're still expanding on the world no matter the distance, it doesn't just become more meaningful because said old region is hypothetically nearby. All we'll get is some random off references to it here and there, and some nostalgia pandering content.
>>56932351Get Masuda's dick out of your ass before you start typing, you retarded cunt. Lowering your expectations to gobble the slop they feed you only makes you more of a cuck than you already are.
>>56932351>you: Johto is Kanto’s hick baby brother >Johtofag not blinded by nostalgia: true, game freak should fix it >you: word salad of excuses and retardation on why game freak shouldn’t do something right for once and fix their mistakeKys shillfaggot
Yes. New gen and new region is already a franchise staple and part of the fun. You show your age and autism when you say shit like "i-it's just france!"
>>56930890>Santorini is in HoennThe closest thing to Santorini is Sootopolis and you know that's not based on Santorini, right?
>2 region gamesWouldn't happen anymore, at least not without being sold to you as DLC.
>>56932474That's another thing Gen 9 botched with having both its DLC being random ass places nowhere near the region, paldea which is already pretty soulless and empty, remains unexpanded upon as a place and suffers for it.
>>56932459>this is how it's been and will always beGF hates sticking to patterns, while it's an unlikely possibility that it will happen, it's more autistic to pattern fag and assume the pattern will never change.
>>56932537>GF hates patternsmost formulalically consistent franchise in existence by the way
>>56932429Johto is Kanto's baby brother in terms of what?
>>56932075I don't mind the recycling, I don't care if it's fan service it's fun to see and the franchise has too many characters as is. Plus it's following in line with an anime trope to depict ancestors as close copies of their modern counterpart, so it's not like there's no basis beyond laziness for doing this.
>>56928840New regions are necessary to introduce the highest number of new Pokemon and characters, which allows for the highest amount of new merchandise.Directly revisiting old regions raises the "worldbuilding only GameFreak and autists are worried about" issue of "Well where were these brand new Pokemon we've never heard of before in the last game but were apparently ALWAYS a part of this region's fauna?" because GameFreak's approach since Gen 3 has been "we've ALWAYS known about [insert thing here]" unless the plot demands it, such as UBs, Paradoxes, Legendary lore and the likes.Besides, just look at PLA. They didn't sufficiently answer the question of "Well where were these brand new regional variations we've never heard of before in DPPt but were apparently ALWAYS a part of this region's fauna?", and the fandom immediately took to a "OH THEY WENT EXTINCT" headcanon despite being objectively false, proven swiftly with SV's DLC, it's just that they want to sell more copies of PLA which is why only a select few can be found outside of PLA without relying on limited-time events at this moment.But no, Perrin having an alive and healthy pair of Hisuian Growlithe wasn't enough, the presence of White-Striped Basculin in Kitakami wasn't enough, Perrin saying Ursaluna are uncommon wasn't enough, indefinite amounts of Wild Kleavor existing in the Terarium surrounding what's obviously a chunk of Black Augurite wasn't enough, the anime having Perrin say Hisuian Forms come from Sinnoh (thus implicating they still exist in modern-day) wasn't enough. The extinction headcanon STILL persists and it'll continue to do so until all Hisuian form Pokemon are obtainable natively outside of PLA.THAT is why we're constantly getting new regions that are chock full of new creatures and characters, because there's no worldbuilding justification necessary.
