>Broke: The dexcut was bad>Woke: The dexcut was good>Bespoke: The dexcut didn't go far enough
They NEED to have 1000 pokemon, but will use the same team over and over again, taking to you Gen 4 players.
It’s should have only dexcut gens 6+ pokemon, nobody would care thenBDSP is actually the game that handled dexit the best hilariously
>>56933033I have never repeated mons in any of my gen 4 playthroughs, outside of the starter because if you don’t pick Turtwig you’re a fag
>>56933028>Choke: The dexcut was b-ACK!
>>56933046If you don't pick Turtwig and box it anyway you're a fag
>>56933028this. whortless shitmons like ariados, avalugg and illumise still being in SV Is proof that they didnt do enough.
All legendaries should be dexcut unless they have some relevance to the region. They just don't feel special when shoehorned into every game, and it would be better for competitive.
>>56933037There's a reason why it outsold pla after all.
>>56933028It was the worst mistake in the history of the franchise and the fanbase has never recovered
I'll only find Dexcut acceptable when Pikachu, Eevee, Gengar, Lucario and Gardevoir experience it.>>56933033The real problem is the horrible distribution of this game, but the little kids who want to blame the fans for the problems Game Freak creates are not ready for this conversation.
>>56933111gardevoir already did with lgpe, you retarded monkey
>>56933110but enough about unova
>>56933028>dex gets cut>nobody murders gamefreak employees or burns the building down>random anime does something someone doesn't like>animation studio gets burned down and people diei wish more unhinged schizos would commit terrorism against corporations, it's always so fun to watch
>>56933129Unova was the peak of the franchise
>>56933129Only normalfags that left the franchise after Pokemania hated Gen 5.
>>56933106This.>>56933121>LGPEirrelevant game
>>56933200>>56933319It was so bad it nearly killed the franchise until Gen 6 saved it with the Pokemon Renaissance.
>>56933106the actual truth that nobody seems to get is that competitive killed pokemonEvery pokemon should be able to be transferred forward. Period.
>>56933761Only fans of whortless iredeemable shitmons(aka jothofags) think like this.
>>56933774>irredeemable shitmonsthis mentality only exists because of competitive.I see you're too far gone.
>>56933028Based and trueFuck bloatFuck "muh bros" fagsFuck people who don't even play the games anymore but are still mad
>>56933761PLA ignored competitive entirely and was a good game despite only 240 mons. Dexcutting has benefits for the casual side too.
everything past gen 4 should be dexcut
>>56933919>plass>good gamelol
>>56933928You think if Kalos was a Switch game, it would have actually been finished in DLC?Or would the DLC only take it to the unfinished game that we got? In other words, it would be the same. But you'd have to pay for the last three towns.
>>56933800post a picture of your hall of fame then anon. Surely if you defend those worthless mon you must have use them in your team then :)
>>56933968fine, I'll humor you. Not that it matters, because competitive =/= single player experience, and you'll move the goal post, because people don't just change their minds. You already have your opinion. But let me get my most recently replayed game.It will take a moment.
>>56934029>>56933968they bounce around at different rates. But you can make them out. Soul Silver replay; Hall of Famers.
>>56933028celebrating a thousand pokemon was stupid
>>56934099>pupitarexplain yourself now
>>56934122explain what? I wanted Tyranitar, because I like Tyranitar.But it takes forever to evolve. So I figured Pupitar was good enough. And he was.
Stantler wonGirafarig wonUrsaring won
The one thing about the dex cut situation that bothers me the most is that some people talk about the dex cut as if it was some inevitability that had to happen at some point. No, it did not have to happen and it won't ever need to happen, I never even thought of the idea of a dex cut until it was announced just over five years ago.
>>56934148anon you can’t get it before the postgame without cheating
>>56934329No, the Safari Zone is embedded in Cianwood. You can get a pupitar there at like level 10 or something. And it was a real pain in the ass to get leveled up with the rest of the team. And it grows painfully slow, too. Also, if memory serves you can just catch Steelix without having to evolve one, not in the Safari Zone, but somewhere in the caves or cliffs. But I didn't need a Steel-Type.I wanted a Tyranitar.
>>56934312I've been asking for dexcuts since gen 6. Not my problem you don't understand why bloat is bad.
>>56934454nta but It's not about bloat in a regional dex, it's about having all of the pokemon in the national dex. When people say they want all of the pokemon in the game, they want all pokemon obtainable, not scattered in the grass.I won't buy a SwSh game if I can't have all of my pokemon in it. I'm not paying for PokePrison ransomware.
>>56934469But you don't need all your Pokémon in it. No one does. It's content no one actually needs.
>>56934329Retard
>>56934480It's a game.about completing pokedexes and catching pokemon.>you don't need to complete the pokedex>you don't need pokemonI don't 'need' pokemon in general. I want them though. all of them. and I won't buy their games until they include them all. If that's never, fine. All that I've learned from SwSh and SV is I'm not missing much. Gamefreak's quality took a nosedive.
>>56934099>>56934386Absolutely based. Wish more posters were like this.>>56934480And when Game Freak cuts a feature you desire, you can think back to this very post you've written. Frankly, you don't NEED a Pokémon game at all, and I won't spend any more of my money on a product lacking features I value.Think outside your own head for once.
>>56934513You don't need to complete the Pokedex though, and you don't need over a thousand to complete it anyway, you can complete the regional 'dex with no problem.Besides, you'll never be able to complete the national dex in any game because there will always be more Pokemon coming out, which can't be back-traded to older games.
>>56934513You can complete the Pokedex though.
>>56933028>Ascended: Natdex minus 151
>>56934176>getting regional evolutions that will be unobtainable in all future games without transfer >ever being a good thing delusion at its finest
>>56934513The exercise and satisfaction of collecting is purely for smooth brains with ocd. I've never once felt the desire to collect everything of something in any game ever, completing the pokedex always seemed like miserable tedium
>>56934592>>56934565So I can have my favorites in Scarlet and Violet?Crobat? Mawile? Sharpedo? Spinda? Starmie? Lunatone? what about Absol? Roserade? Nidoking? Drapion? Oh hey>>56934626 didn't read all of that, but what's up.Did you know you can't play with Stoutland? OR Liepard? Gigalith? Steelix? Manetric? Scolipede? Darmanitan or Maractus? Or Or even Sigilyph? one of my top 10, btw. Can't use it post Gen-7, along with Archen and Archeops. Nor can I play with Drudiggon? Or Heatmor? or Pangoro? or Walrein? or Aegislash?Heliolisk? Tyrantrum? Not Carnivine? or Yveltal or Zygarde? or Wishiwashi or Pyukumuku or Drampa?
>>56934541>false equivalence>>56934698>moving goalposts>muh favouritesWhat do your favourites have to do with completing your fucking Pokedex
>>56934698You can complete the REGIONAL Pokedex. You can't complete the NATIONAL Pokedex in any game, and you never will unless the series dies and they stop making new Pokemon.
>>56934713in a post about dexcut, I thought you could use context clues to differentiate between National and Regional, and how this has always been a conversation about the NatDex>>56934716I'm older than you. Take a seat, son.
>>56934698Only Aegislash and she's kneecapped. The other shitmons I've never even thought about. My post wasn't even long, you just can't come to terms with being compared to the kinds of troglodytes too stupid and timid to engage with anything but completing a checklist
>>56934312infinite growth is unsustainable
>>56934732So you're saying your experience wouldn't be one pokemon better with Aegislash? If you could choose to have it or keep it out forever, you'd choose to keep it out forever?
>>56933028Bespoker: All Pokemon should be Dexcut
>>56933131Gamefreak and Nintendo have better safety measures than whatever random anime studio you're thinking of
>>56934723Yeah, but you've never been able to complete the National Dex, because the moment a new game comes out there will be new Pokemon you can't backport into the old game, and as there will always be new Pokemon, the retroactive-dexcut is a certainty. For instance, I can't (officially) play Cinderace in FRLG. And even if they did make a game with every Pokemon in it and then never made any more, you'd not be able to complete the Nat Dex because there's so many that are awkward (or outright impossible) to catch now, especially Mythicals.Gotta Catch 'Em All is an outdated mindset with so many Pokemon, especially given that was never the actual proper translation of the Japanese slogan (which was closer to "Catch 'em if you can").
Completing the National Pokedex would be fucking impossible in any new game for 99% of players because you need shit like "Mythical that was only distributed once in Japan through a movie ticket in 2005" or "You need to transfer this Pokémon from 5 generations ago through 4 different consoles to get it in the current game"Why do dexfags/collections autists not understand that? It's not just tedious, it's also literally impossible for the vast majority of players. Niggas really demand a feature that only 0.1% of players get any use out of, and I'm being generous here.
>>56934759No, you transfer forward. As has been the standard for 7 generations. Each time a game comes out, you can move pokemon you like forward, or decide that none of the pokemon introduced are worth the transfer. But that was always a choice that could be made. Until Gen 8. It may not matter to you, or anybody else if pokemon I like can't be used. But why would you argue for less content over all of the content, when it has no downside? Oh, and those mythicals? A lot of those got transfered over. Mew is given out so rarely, and yet it is included in the SV dex. So is Jirachi.
>>56934804>when it has no downside?It does have a downside though, more Pokemon to program in means less time to make the game good and add new cool features like Dynamax or good graphics.
>56934825bait
>>56934745It'll come back, no doubt, and this kind of retarded dilemma will never be presented to me or anyone else. In the meantime I have 734 pokemon to fill out 6 slot team. You're a retard
>>56934838How?Also BBNDfags ignore that having all the Pokemon in the game gives older players an unfair advantage as they will have more Pokemon to transfer over. Ideally they'd actually cut the transfer-forwards system altogether and make you catch new 'mons for every game to level the playing field.
LGPE and PLA did it rightRemove national dex entirelyRegional dex only
the dexcut is pointless since they reintroduce most of the old ones through paid dlc anyways and its not like theyre using the saved resources to make something special, just something that functions but even then there's buggy ass games like SV. They should just make a new stadium esque game with everything in it
