The original 151 just don't look like Pokemon anymore; with the art evolution of the series they suffer majorly from early-instalment weirdness. They need redesigning to fit in with the modern art direction.
>>56934658You've turned it into a temtem.
>>56934658you can just smell the seething genwaring bort stench comming from op
They should never have made more than 151 Pokémon; Then there wouldn’t be a problem.
>>56934673>They should never have made PokémonFTFY
>>56934670Actual unovafag here, OP's a faggot. You're half of one also, as is anyone who brings up Unova out of no where to stir shit up.
holy fuck i almost crapped myself
>>56934667No, I turned it into a Pokemon instead of a half-baked prototype design from before the series knew what it was doing.
>>56934658Prefer this honestly.
>>56934780That's pretty good.
>>56934667Anon, thank you for helping me realize why I hate Temtem designs.
>>56934780Whoops posted my shiny variants this the really colors.Artist is on Twitter, named Redouille
>>56934658https://archive.palanq.win/vp/search/text/early%20installment%20weirdness/
>>56934809They understand modernization while staying true to the pokemon design philosophy
>>56934850Alright, what term would you use to explain Kanto's Pokemon no longer looking like Pokemon due to the artstyle having evolved?
>>56934853Like look at this vulpix and ninetales. You can tell instantly what it's supposed to be while adding more Post Unova design and more Asian mystical ideas.
>>56934866It's not Gen 1's problem that the rest of the series became worse.
>>56934884But it didn't, it became better and left Gen 1's designs obsolete. They need to be fixed.
>>56934894What do you think of this Pikachu?
>>56934913That's great! Adds some nice visual interest and modernizes him well.
>>56934916Here are the Nidos
>>56934923How dare they steal her titties
>>56934955Well modernization has Its flaws ya know one of them is desexualization of women
>>56934658>early installment weirdnessFiltered
>>56934955Beedrill line.Fits more with the armor and poison
>>56934658>the early-instalment-weirdness-schizo is at it againI thought I already told you to kill yourself? What do you need? Instructions?
in my honest opinion these are all terrible
>>56934850Dude's unhinged. Also retarded, but this everyone could clearly see already.
>>56934999Post better then.Have a Clefairy line.
>>56935020I do not have any redesigns because I think the originals look fine
>>56935029That's not the discussion now is it.So post better or leave or I am flagging you for off topic
>>56934658>They need redesigning to fit in with the modern art directionMore like the new shit needs to be taken back to the drawing board
>>56934990Not gonna happen, boomer. Sorry your KANTOOOOOOshit doesn't hold up.>>56935043No, the old shit needs redesigning. They don't look like Pokemon anymore.
>>56935043Shoulda coulda woulda they are as they are and it makes more sense to remaster originals.
>>56934988>it's le heckin poison type so it has to be le heckin purpleNot saying those redesigns are bad but that's just retarded
>>56935051We'll bury you, kiddo.
>>56935053Here is the Butterfree line.Softer lines compared to the Sharper design of the Beedrill line.
>>56935034The OGs are perfect as is. Now what?
>>56935051>>56935052>We must remaster the original Pokemon because they don't look like Pokemon anymoreYes, making them into odious blasphemies is totally the right idea here.Alolan/Galarian/Hisuian/Paldean forms already exist to fit that niche, so go be obnoxious elsewhere and make new forms that will never happen.
>>56935075Prove it.
>>56935080You're seething over their superiority so hard you want them changed. Checkmate.
>>56935079What makes them blasphemous?Besides YOU don't like them?
>>56935090In the contrary I enjoyed them as their old style but you can't say they have not altered the OG's say Pikachu from Fatchu to its more sleek design?
>>56935096way too busy
>>56935053Try voicing your thoughts again, but in a less profoundly stupid way.
>>56935102They have indeed downgraded Pikachu.
>>56935051>They don't look like Pokemon anymoreOn the contrary, they're the only ones that still look like pokemon
>>56935103How about the Fearow line.
>>56935096Overcomplicated for the early route bird Compare that pidgey to a rookidee or a fletchlingIt's a redesign more akin to the braviary line rather than the traditional, elegant early route birdThat's the problem with a lot of these redesigns, they're overcomplicating it. >>56934876>>56934913These are the only decent redesigns you posted
They better not have ruined the Slowpoke family
>>56935117But the designs continue to follow a theme the old ones by Sugimori where simple because they had to be, as the games and the machines became capable of more colors pixels and polygons the designs became more complex as consequence.It's not hard to think that the originals would be just as complicated if they where designed now with no technological limitations.
>>56935096>Besides YOU don't like them?Do you really want me to list them ALL? I'm pretty sure I could create a wall of text for each individual one shared already.I can summarize it by saying that all of them are completely overdesigned, but that would be insufficient to you, I would wager.
>>56935131>Besides YOU don't like them?Still makes it personal.
>>56935145Red is not here.I am just snatching his art on Twitter.Bam, Charizard.
>>56935130Thank fuck they had such limited hardware then, because the old designs still look great.
>>56935130But not all Numons are 'complicated'The main difference between numons and oldmons is that numons have the tendency to stick closer to a theme rather than being monsters For example, there's nothing complicated about Cyclizar. What stands amout about him when you compare him to something like Nidoking is that he sticks closely to a clear idea, he's a lizard motorcycle. He's not a lizard monster with some patterns on his neck that looks like a wheel, he's an actual motorcycle lizardA more "modern" Squirtle line would be leaning in to the idea if a turtle with an artillery platform on it's back, not growing a beard like in this>>56934853
>>56935165charizard if good
>>56935166If Creatures went to GameFreak and Said it's time to change designs to be more modernized by order of Nintendo, what would they do?Even Digimon have the same issue you can 100% look at the originals for the first series compared to say New Heros line.
>>56935145I'm not the OP. I just want this board's posters to use their own fucking words for once, instead of resorting to meme templates, buzzwords, and stock phrases like they do with everything, because people like you have been conditioned to just parrot shit instead of thinking for themselves.The only one that should fuck off is you, and people like you. What people like you give isn't "criticism," nor do you care about giving it - you're just ridiculing, and shitposting, because that's all your braindead ilk know how to do anymore. Go outside. Read a fucking book. Do literally anything else until you can form your own opinions, and use your own goddamned words, you absolutely worthless parasite.
>>56935190They'd tell them to fuck off or they'd make new forms. They're never going to change the originals because gen 1 nostalgia is a very profitable thing.
>>56935198>sudden meltdown>saying a design is "too busy" is apparently a meme/buzzword/stock phraseJesus fucking christ. And I'm the one being told to go outside? How fucking ironic is that? Isn't it more like any sentence (You) don't like is a stock phrase?
>>56935204You don't understand corporate will, especially in Japan.The Redesigned 151 would be more plushes and toys, while the Nostalgiaic designs would now gain more Value for Antiquity this also means they can forever dip into the old ideas with out having to make new dexes. A win win for a Corporation that makes buoku bucks with JUST merchandise.If it fails it just becomes a novelty idea like New Coke was.
>>56934809>BulbasaurChibified is putting it lightly. Changed the bulb on its back to be [UNDECIPHERABLE]. Fewer pattern splotches>IvysaurAlso somehow chibified. Bulb on its back is more predominantly weed-like. Made it goth, while doubling up the markings and eyeliner?>VenasaurProbably a derivative of its mega's design. unnecessary eye-shadow. 7 different colors to the OG's 5, all of which are mixed around carelessly to give it a yokai appearance>>56934853>SquirtleChibified, but with unnecessary detail modifications and simplifications. This is a recurring theme.>WartortleOh look, more markings and simplified shapes. The shell showing the evolution of the shell is arguably the only nice touch about it.>BlastoiseAre you trying to compete with Chesnaut's design with this? And heaven forfend, why the hell is the shell smooth as it is? Does the artist have an aversion to adding details like that on top of the added fluff they added for no real rhyme or reason?>>56934876>VulpixIt's just Alolan Vulpix but Fire. Adding the off-color underbelly is unnecessary here. And what the hell gives with those tail spots?>NinetalesThis is why people are rejecting modernity. It's literally just a kyubii at this point.>>56934913>PikachuModern Pikachu, but a retard was allowed to add unnecessary markings to it.>RaichuGave it the chibi treatment and then added more needless markings.>>56934923>Nidoran(M/F)Literally just a pallet swap, save one has angry eyes and one doesn't, and the ears are changed very slightly. Made them into rabbits.>NidorinoTraded details for markings. >NidorinaTraded details for markings, and somehow became more chibified in the process>NidokingNot a terrible design, but by sticking to the rabbit philosophy in Nidoran, it betrays its predecessor's intents.>NidoqueenWhat the fuck is happening with its arms? Also what in the ungodly hell does it need all these shit markings for?Character limit reached. Designs are dogshit.
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>>56935198>What people like you give isn't "criticism"It absolutely IS criticism, you trembling fuck. The difference is you're on fucking 4chan looking for people to be respectful and gentle with telling you why [thing] is bad, when the reality is that nobody has the fucking time to put up with your bullshit.No. You're going to get unfiltered criticism, and you're going to like it. If you don't like it, go back to your hugbox on Twitter/Bluesky and stroke your ego elsewhere.
>>56935251>Nooooo there's actual visual interest! It's too busy, my crusty boomer eyes are giving out! AAAAAAAAA!Genwunners get the rope.
>>56935119>>56935165It's incredible how much cooler these look>>56935020This is cute but I like the original too
>>56935185It's a throat sac that looks like a wheel.
