Is he evil?Kidnapped an innocent child to send them to an ancient land to do their bidding. The child remembers its parents, friends, loved ones but can never meet them again, the loved ones remember the child too and will forever grief over it without ever knowing what happenedWhat is wrong with him?
>>56936694Literal god complex
>he>him
>>56936706The Abrahamic gods are referred to as male despite being genderless
>>56936694She is based
>>56936719>this one series of gods that Arceus doesn't even take direct inspiration from is considered male, so Arceus is male
>>56936706yepyes
>>56936751I just said they're genderless, like Arceus, but I still refer to them with male pronouns, try to keep upAnd the pokemon world is clearly monotheistic and Arceus is very much inspired by the abrahamic religions
>>56936759I use femalePronouns because it makes people angry
>>56936759>Pokemon world is clearly monotheistic They literally talk about how other legendaries were prayed to and you even see shrines built to them. Arceus is the creator diety but that doesn't mean he is the only thing worshipped. By your measure Ancient Egypt was monotheistic becuase Atum made all the other gods. Also for refference what bits we do get of poke religion is understandibly primarily based of off shinto with "gods" being physical beings and being confined in domain to a particular region or even to specific forests or mountains.
>>56936854Then do that I don't mind, but you shouldn't derail threads to criticize people using the most context probable pronouns
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>>56936898Legendary pokemon aren't gods or deities, otherwise all pokemon would be gods since they're made by arceusSome being more powerful than others doesn't make them gods, the only church we see in Sinnoh worships Arceus.That's like saying Christian prophets are "gods" in Christianity
>>56936910He lost btw
Arceus is an attack helicopterWhat do you think the plates are for after all.
>>56936759>Arceus is genderless, but I refer to it with male pronounsAnd never once in context to the games has Arceus been referred to as male, not in the Teraleak lore drafts, not in the Canalave Library, and not in its Pokédex entries.>the pokemon world is clearly monotheisticThe entire region and observable culture of Johto, the sacred nature of the Cave of Origin, Mt. Pyre, and Sky Pillar in Hoenn, alongside repeated themes of reverence for the Weather Trio, and Eterna City having a golden/brass idol of fusing elements of Dialga and Palkia in their town square, conflating them for the same Pokémon, and the heavy themes of Dragon-clans spanning multiple Generations since the very first, carrying relevance in the series, even to this day, would all beg to differ with that statement.>Arceus is very much inspired by the abrahamic religionsyeah man after those leaks where we have direct confirmation that for the development process of Gen 4, they pulled folklore and myth from their own culture and the religions largely represented within said culture in order to build the myths and culture of Sinnoh, the creator god Pokémon, that has a fucking wheel of life on its back is inspired by Abrahamic religions>>56936913>the only church we see in Sinnoh worships ArceusAnd the kimono girls in Johto worship Ho-oh and Lugia with the tradition that they practice. How is that any different? There are sacred monuments that they built for Pokémon that they recognized were great, powerful, and above many others, as a form of reverence. That's a religion.
>>56937013Do none of you people know how to read? I never said he was male, I said he was genderless i.e. not male. But I use male pronouns as is custom for deities, specially the ones he resembles. God you people are retardedAll of what you said is seen in the catholic church, from clans to certain saints to statues for those saints, doesn't make them gods. Your only basis for other pokemon being gods is "but they're powerful", just like saintsI'll agree with you that gen 2 mixed in some japanese traditions with kimono girls and ho-oh/lugia, still doesn't make them gods, specially Lugia. And we get no indication they see them as gods. Many of the japanese traditions related with kimonos aren't even to worship gods anywaysAlso talking about gen 1&2 games when the lore about the pokemon world was barely a thing is quite disingenuous
Arceus is an upside down hand opposite of Eternatus.
>>56936910you knowthere's something really funny about visual braille. I can't quite put my finger on it though
>>56937066You keep repeating this "doesn't make them gods" statement that isn't true just because you keep saying it. What are the standards we're using for what's considered a god? Because the more I read your replies, the more inconsistent it sounds with real-life religions and mythology of the past and present.>Also talking about gen 1&2 games when the lore about the pokemon world was barely a thing is quite disingenuousJust because it was made at the same time as when real-world places were mentioned in Pokédex entries and NPC dialogue, doesn't mean it carries less weight. The first four regions largely stand on their own two feet while taking geographical and historical inspiration from different parts of Japan. The reason I didn't mention later generations is because they simply haven't gone that deep into Pokémon worldbuilding since Gen 4, outside of things like the Tree of Life themes in Gen 6, which aren't really represented anywhere in the region outside of the trio. Gen 5 is a whole other discussion. Its legendaries were inspired by Taoism, and they definitely attempted to expand on worldbuilding themes unrelated to mythos in the Pokémon world, but the games' polarizing nature among the community makes it hard to discuss without constant derailment. Everything after Gen 6 had little thought behind it outside of the geographical region and was ultimately designed to sell a product.
>>56937066Dialga/Palkia are considered Gods because they were worshipped, not seen as Gods in more modern times, but originally they were. The only definition of a God is whether its considered one through worship and has superhuman powers of specific influences. Which even Rayquaza does for instance, it could be seen as the God of the Skies by ancient peoples.
>>56937066You clearly only have a view of religion coloured by Christianity. Firstly, regardless of if the legendaries are actual gods it is obvious that they are still treated as gods, meaning the religion is clearly not monotheistic. But beyond that "god" is an incredibly flexible term and in context of being based on Japanese mythology, yes being powerful is enough to make something a "god". Japanese gods were frequently portrayed as physical, mortal, and even just big or magical wild animals. In legend Japanese prince Yamato Takeru even made a living off of going around slaying violent gods.Again, the Arceus church is not the only peice of pokemon worship we have seen before or since. Celebi, Landorus, and Calyrex all have specific shrines built and dedicated to them. And I should also note Landorus literally has the in universe title GOD OF FIELDS.
>>56937246NTA, but to be fair it depends entirely on the region and even the clan. Not every person in a region is going to have the same viewpoints when it comes to specific legendaries, and some legendaries will take higher priority on the totem pole than others. Like I can't imagine someone in Unova or Kalos worshipping Giratina for instance, but someone in Unova's past may end up worshipping Kyurem after seeing a giant primordial dragon fall from the heavens for instance. It's pretty much the same as our real life with how Gods are. Arceus is just a weird circumstance because we've straight up seen in game what it's capable of, so it has confirmed status as basically the prime deity in terms of like YHWH, Ra, Ymir, etc. Also with that said, even Christianity doesn't say there is only one God, only that one should be worshipped. It makes references to various other Gods even within its own stuff, such as Asherah, just as it also relates to other cultures Gods too.
>>56936719Isn't that weird?
>>56937273I mean yeah again that feels like it is very much reflecting Shinto. Often the focus is on ones local deities with specific rituals and practices varying from region to region. It should also be noted that the Japanese have always been pretty liberal in religious beleifs. The common joke being that a Japanese man is born Shinto, Marries Christian, and dies Buddhist. So yeah I'm not surprised pokemon is a bit of a mishmash.
>KidnappedWhere does it say that? Arceus could have saved Lucas from a plane crash which killed his parents in order to send him back to save Her universe.This would also be why She didn't send him back, there IS no "back" for him to return to. There IS another chance at continuing to live his life. Albeit removed from the modern world he was born into.
>>56936759Pokémon aren't genderless tumblrina.
>>56936910the arceus lore wanted him dead on sight
>>56937457stupid retcon
>>56936701>complexWell.... sorta kinda
>>56936694No>>56936854>Glory hunters>People who usually derail comfy threads>People who love talking about cocks more than actual faggots>People who have the most stupid headcanonsGee, I wonder why anon
