Its over for you boomerkeks, time to step aside.
>>56938223If selling well meant something was good then onlyfans whores would be the cream of the crop, cigarettes and alcohol would be the best drugs known to mankind, etc. Selling well doesn't equate to quality. If anything this just proves that GameFreak can continue to be as lazy and unoptimized as possible and still rake in money like it's nothing, it's a sad state of affairs and just further proof of stupidity and massive consumerism. Now fuck off faggot.
>>56938232holy cope
>selling like shit = quality gamesInsane mental gymnastics
>good sales = not allowed to criticizeinsane mental gymnastics
>>56938247Parroting is an admission of defeat.
>>56938232This is /vp/, Quality = sales has been and forever will be. "I was only pretending to be retarded" don't exist.
>>56938223Japs are such npcs this and ACNH are horrible games and arguably the worst in their franchise yet sold extreamly wellclown world
>>56938350Japanese know quality when they see one.
>>56938355i guess their eyes aren't as good as i thought then
>>56938223>Nintendo Switch is the best selling console in Japan, and one of the best selling in the world >Pokemon game comes out during peak market saturation>/vp/edos are mad that a Pokemon game sold like hot cakes on a widely available platform
>>56938369The problem is that the Pokemon games on switch are fucking garbage iphone poster
>>56938369People are also surprised Animal Crossing: New Horizons sold like hotcakes when it had the benefit of COVID, which gave the normally outgoing people of Japan an outlet to feel like they're living a social life while being forced to live like hikikomori for the duration of coof lockdowns.
People on /vp/ unironically think that GameFreak reads forums for feedback on their gamesSales are the only metric they look at to figure out if the games are good or bad
>>56938376They also listen to letters received from Japanese parents sent on behalf of their children, which is where the notorious "we didn't release the Azure Flute because it was too complex" was revealed to actually be "kids are so retarded that they can't handle Mt. Coronet, so we didn't want to make them have to climb it one more time" and that's subsequently why the pre-open world regions got increasingly linear with fewer and fewer optional side-areas.
>>56938372that’s a subjective opinion, retarded contrarian. SV is a buggy mess that runs like a PowerPoint presentation, but it’s genuinely the most fun I’ve had in any Pokemon game ever, and it helps that the stories this time around are actually good.You got any more stupid shit to say?
>we only sold 30 million copies of this game>people must've not liked it
>>56938381idk what games you played itoddler but SV is considered to be trash by most players.
>>56938415nice fanfic
>>56938416You mean like SV's story
>>56938234He has a point though, just because it sells good doesn't mean its a good game. Plenty of high selling games exist that aren't actually good, just as plenty of low selling games exist that aren't bad. Just as the reverse exists, some games sell bad because they're bad, some games sell well because they're good. SV is a step in the right direction, but the graphics and performance are major issues.
>>56938381>but it’s genuinely the most fun I’ve had in any Pokemon game everThat's honestly pretty sad. SV isn't even a terrible game, but that's just sad.
highest selling pkmn games>open world tech demo with gamecube graphics>a slow buggy 8 bit mess held together with duct tape that came out 30 years ago>polished kusoge pokéfags sure have great taste
>>56938436More like dreamcast graphics, there are definitely gamecube games that look better
>>56938415I played blue (hated it), silver (loved it), emerald (loved it), went through my big boy phase with the “Pokemon is for kids” mentality, got back into it with Sword (meh), emulated gen 5 (fun, but not great) and borrowed Ultra Moon (mediocre) from my sister before Scarlet/Violet’s release. Your opinion isn’t representative of the majority, stop deluding yourself.
>>56938441That's an insult to the Dreamcast, the graphics are N64-tier.Literally, they even have to employ an egregious "low poly mode" for all the graphics whenever they're a few cunt hairs too far from your player character.
>>56938451He's correct, a lot of people clown on the performance and graphics hardcore. The general consensus even among average players is that Arceus is the best 3D Pokemon game by a large margin, and even that gets clowned on for performance and graphics too.
>>56938455nice fanfic
>>56938454Never forget the trees in SwSh were ripped from Ocarina of Time.
>>56938455Criticism =/= hatredI enjoyed SV, and I both stated and acknowledged the poor performance and awkward graphics. The gameplay is solid, and the characters and stories are great. My initial perception of the game was negative, but the more I played it, the more invested I got.
>>56938457
>>56938471botted
>>56938457>>56938467They are literally the lowest rated Pokemon games of all time across the board.
>>56938481nice fanfic
>>56938481Ratings mean nothing if consoomers will consoom anyway. And as we see now, Japan just consoom.
>>56938483Keep living in your delusional world then. >>56938492And as many have pointed out, consuming something doesn't inherently make it good. The fact that trash is being consumed at such a rate says enough. If people had brains the issues with SV would cause sells for Gen 10 or ZA to be massively lower by comparison.
>>56938350There's a good reason why a lot of the legacy Japanese titles are dying. In the 90s, Japanese games companies were basically untouchable. Now? Nobody really cares about them outside of boomers who like games by Konami or Capcom titles and troons.who play JRPGs that are past their best
>>56938481I don’t doubt it. However, despite the game’s most glaring flaws that bring it down, its strongest traits are THE best in the series. If a game is truly irredeemable unplayable trash, it wouldn’t be the best selling Pokemon game of all time.
>>56938497I never said it was good, I said quality literally doesn't matter because CONSOOMERS WILL CONSOOM ANYWAY.
>>56938506yes people will continue to buy good games like pokemon
>>56938501That isn't how sells work. Half of the sales were within 3 days before anybody had any real hands on experience with it, by December it had hit 20 mil. Meaning within 2 weeks it had hit those numbers, and while for some people they definitely knew of those problems before hand, most probably thought the average person was exaggerating, which as we see in numerous reviews and thoughts on the game, they were largely wrong and clown on it. Sure plenty of people can still have enjoyed the game for what it was, but don't act like people weren't disappointed in what could have been as well. So it selling that well has nothing to do with its quality. Are some of the features good, sure, but that's not saying much, but past games also does features better too, even Arceus and SwSh do and those came right before it. >>56938506Which is the sad state of affairs.
>>56938249Posting this unironically is an admission that you're a faggot
>>56938522Ad hominem.
Hopefully how bad SV actually was will stop people from buying ZA and Gen 10. You can only shit on your customer base so much before sales begin to drop, that's even been true of Pokemon in the past.
>>56938532Sales already dropped at Gen 5 which was the lowest point but thankfully they actually made a good game after that (Gen 6) and the sales got better.
>>56938536Ok this is bait for sure. I enjoyed Gen 6, but don't even act like it was better then Gen 5 by any means.
>>56938532ZA will probably do significant sales in 2025 due to the junkies not getting a hit this year, and then Gen 10 in 2026 will effortlessly hit 25 million sales due to being the debut game on Switch 2, Pokemon's 30th anniversary, and of course, the big 10th generation of the franchise.
>>56938544/pol/raiders just cant stop losing, total pokeGOD victory
>>56938544ZA will probably sell, but I don't see Gen 10 selling as much, let alone being a Switch 2 launch title.
>>56938532now that GF realized they can just call daddy nintendo to sue the competition they won't have any choice but to only consoom pokemon
>>56938578Palworld only got bitch slapped because the other big names were interested in making it into "THEIR answer to Pokemon", multimedia franchise and all. Other monster collectors will remain untouched as long as they stay strictly within the realm of videogames or pledge allegiance to Nintendo.
>>56938578The lawsuit is barely anything worth a damn anyway, it's just a message and nothing more.
>>56938223I'm a boomer and I loved SV. I'm glad it's getting the recognition it deserves.
>>56938223back in the day only kids played gameboy gamesnow the gaming market has expanded to include adults so modern games selling more doesn't mean much
>>56938223Well deserved.>>56938232They're the best games in the franchise and that equated to the best sales.
>>56938735Yup, back then adults just didnt exist at all.
>>56938598Based
>>56938578Palworld didn't exist when SwSh launched and it's still the 2nd highest selling game
And 5 years without a new battle facility. Wtf were Lamefreak thinking? I swear sometimes they are actively trying to kill the brand but it just somehow keeps growing dispite their efforts.
>>56938877>he is over 40 and still scared to battle onlinegrow a pair
>>56938885>He's unaware the most people used battle facilities to practice for onlineBased retard
>>56938910weird way to spell showdown
>>56938911>He plays showdown
>>56938928Yes
>>56938381>the stories this time around are actually goodHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*breathes*AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>56938223it can sell trillions and will still be a 5fps scamware trash made for retards who just consoom to support brand
>>56938951Yes.
>>56938958Fuck off trannysaur
>>56938223>>56938958it is also worth mentioning that RGB were released in a time where video games were a niche hobby mainly for geeks and young teens, unlike now where even grandparents play them.numbers don't matter without contextthis pokemon board doesn't even post anything about its gameplay, lore, pvp, or anything, just coom trash for the cat and Nemona which is enough to tell you that the game is garbage and not even its defenders play it.dead franchise floating by retarded coomers
>>56939055nice fanfic
>>56938232>If anything this just proves that GameFreak can continue to be as lazy and unoptimized as possible and still rake in money like it's nothingBased and agreed, but i do have to say it was the first game in a long while i ACTUALLY finished storywise. And the graphics... i play on emulator, i don't get performance problems kek
>this pokemon board doesn't even post anything about its gameplayyeah if we ignore all the shiny hunt and wifi threads sure>loreyeah if we ignore the millions timetravel vs imagiantion threads sure>pvpyeah if we ignore all the smogon threads and vgc threads surewhat a retarded post
>>56939055Coomers hate Nemona cause she's not a sexualized loli. You're coping hard.
>>56938223boomer here, after I took my pills for hypertension I got enough strength to kneel to our new overlords Scarlet and Violet
>>56938471Oh no no no Fucking kek
>56939112>shiny huntingautism>wifi/pvpnot exclusive to SV>smogonnot svheck, people still post about Mega evolution more than the terra hats that aren't even shilled here>time travel / imaginationstheories that were carried from leak season aied shortly after the game's releasewowGen1's Lavendar Town plus millions of theories in Gen2~Gen7+PLA lived far longerterra leaks didn't even bring any interest for SVpeople were just talking about Typhlosion kek
>>56938223Scarlet and Violet is trash its arguably worse than sword and shield because of the lack of a battle tower, thats not even talking campaign
>>56939175This but Dynamax Adventure equivalent instead of Fag Tower
>>56939175SVs campaign is the best we had so far tho?
SVCHADS WON AGAIN
>genwuner tears
>Palworld received like 7 major updates that added lots of new things and improved the performance in under 1 year>SV's still isn't fixed years later
>>56939179>gym order that requires you to use a map found online>TM's are single use for some reason>ugly npc's >game is piss easy>n64 graphics
>>56939191all false btw
>>56939191all true
>>56939191>>gym order that requires you to use a map found onlineWrong, you can ask at every Pokémon center where to go next>>TM's are single use for some reasonIt's the best system we had so farInfinite TMs are bad because you only get total shit tier TMs early on so TMs are worthless until the 7th gym or something which is really lameSingle use TMs with no way of getting new ones are obviously also bad since getting literally 1 TM of Stealth Rock per save file is absolutely idioticWith craftable TMs, you avoid both problems. You can get a strong TM early on, but you can only use it once since you need to learn how to craft it or can't get the material yet to craft it. So it feels good if you find a good TM early on and can give one of your mons a significant boost. And in late game you got tons of mats and can just make whatever you want as many times as you want to grind forIt's the perfect system>>ugly npc's Who the fuck cares if you don't want to fuck nameless NPC #527? Retarded coomer argument. The actual characters look fine anyway>>game is piss easyEvery Pokémon game is piss easyThe final fights are also actually pretty challenging, especially in the DLC>>n64 graphicsTrue, but has literally nothing to do with the quality of the campaign
>>56939185Genwunner here, those are afterbirth tears, as only afterbirths are invested in their childhood games still being received better than their modern counterparts.I've been sitting here waiting for sacred cows to go to slaughter, RG getting outsold is welcome news just as GS getting put into third (now fourth overall) was delightful in Gen 8, despite /vp/ wailing, gnashing their teeth and stamping their feet. Because it's still full of afterbirth bastards who CAN'T accept anything but their own specialised headcanon about the series (like posting review-bombed averages as if they weren't anything but evidence immature adults can't accept the status quo of the kiddy game series not giving a shit about adults and selling gangbusters regardless). Remember, to you lot, this is the first time pokémon's popular enough to sell over 20m, to me it's a return to the reach and power the marque had before GBA killed it.
>>56939248>Remember, to you lot, this is the first time pokémon's popular enough to sell over 20m two Gens in a row***
>>56939235>Infinite TMs are bad because you only get total shit tier No they arent its a total ass to craft more than one for competitive and a step back from gen 7>Who the fuck cares Sorry I only like to look at pretty things not ugly things and most of gen 9's npcs and gym leaders are dei troons>especially in the DLCLmao when did GF become Bethesda >the quality of the campaignThe quality is trash and the fact I have to do circles around the map to reach the next gym or battle is bad game design
>alphabet soup boogyman>still thinks her opinion is anything but a delusion of adequacy
>>56938223>a new videogame from a series of literal rehashes *that's not recycled garbage for once* sells good Crazy how this is somehow considered a radical notion nowadays…
>>56938380you speak the truth sadly, despite SV being “open world” the game is actually quite linear in terms of actual design. All the routes from point A to B were basically just turned into open fields with a cave or two to give the illusion of exploring because people think “open world = freedom/good”
>>56938454sad part is the Switch could have handle better graphics too with a bunch of shit going on on screen. GF is literally ran by idiots who can’y optimize for shit
>>56938223I'm so glad we can stop pretending Sword & Shield were good.
>>56938223This is disgusting, but I'm not surprised. Pokémon will NEVER be good again since people have trash standards and will eat up anything nowadays. Sad.At least I don't feel bad for moving to another franchise.
>>56939263>I have to do circles around the mapChrist, you are literally retarded.
>>56939248 >le afterbirths Hello again beakerfag, shouldn't you be making fun of zoomers at /v/ for not being able to download virus-free torrents from russian cracker websites without ruining their parents' computers?
>>56939618as impressive as Xenoblade is for running their games on the switch, their polygon models aren't nearly as detailed as pokemon ones
>>56940502That's the fault of Pokemon for not designing for their target hardware.
>>56940505or maybe nintendo shouldn't be so cheap on the hardware uh?
>>56939191>I have to use a guide to play the game>the game is piss easypick one
>>56938223Mediocrity is rewarded once more. Rejoice!
>>56940511The hardware came first, it's their job to make a game to run on it. Other devs don't have near as much problem dealing with how weak the Switch is.
>>56940505Only a company like GameFreak could commission high-demand models meant to be futureproofed in basically every game going forward at the expense of the 3DS Era running like absolute shit... Just to replace them all with even HIGHER demand models come Switch Era.
>>56938249You just parroted this very sentence.
Reminder that Japan does not care about you, will never care about you, they think it's cute you like their stuff but they will never think of accommodating you. And that's a good thing because western gamers are the smelliest most miserable faggots on the planet>bbb-bb-but SV is pure D-D-DEI!!!!1!Traps and reverse traps have always been a thing in modern Japanese media, there's like 2 of them in the game not counting the autistic kid, kys tourist
>>56940515most games aren't open worldI think GF adapting their games to what the market demands is more importat than the limitations of the console
>>56940535>most games aren't open worldAnd the people who tried were able to do a way better job. Fucking Rockstar was able to do a better job back in the PS2 days. Game Freak has no excuse for their garbage programming.
>>56940546>Fucking Rockstar was able to do a better job back in the PS2 days.may I see it?
>>56939191>game is piss easyWhich is a grand step up from the shamefully easy previous toddler games (gen 7 is the only one that gets a pass)
>>56940550Yeah.
>>56940557My apoligies, I thought you were serious
>>56940561I am. That game looks and runs way better on weaker hardware. Because it was designed with the hardware in mind. Something Game Freak has NEVER been able to accomplish.
>>56940569
>>56940590>high poly count = betterRetard.
>>56940569It doesn't though. San Andreas is one of my favorite games ever but you're being retardedly obtuse to say it looks and runs better when the whole city is literally cardboard boxes and CJ has as many polygons as he does braincells.The switch is literal garbage. It's unbelievably embarassing that a home console can be easily emulated during its own life cycle and that the emulators run the games way better than the switch could ever dream of. It's beyond shameful
>>56940595you want good graphics but when you get them >i-it doesn't count!
>>56940601The Switch uses off-the-shelf parts, of course it's going to be easy to emulate. The Switch has weak hardware, but it's not Nintendo's fault that Game Freak can't program or optimize worth a shit when other devs have released way better open world games on the exact same hardware. And if you want to compare to a similar power level, all of the open world games on 7th gen consoles.
>>56940533This. And it's a good thing. Japanese games are the last bastion of AAA gaming. Western games went completely to shit outside of very few indie titles.I hope they'll never pander to Westerners.
>>56940620West has good strategy/sim games, and BG3 can contend with the best Japanese titles, but it has been slim pickings since the golden age. Squeenix has been going through their own AAAIDS syndrome for like a decade now though so they're not immune but I do have confidence in their artistic integrity
>>56940620Name 5 good AAA games that have come out of Japan in the last year.If it has microtransactions, it is not good.
>>56940535GF’s problem is not having enough time to actually polish their games. Other open world games like BOTW and even Xenoblade run and look better on Switch despite most locations in SV are just flat areas and towns lag like crazy. It’s very clearly a lack of optimization
>>56940695They delayed Diamond & Pearl and it still ran like garbage.
>>56938223We became doomers and we're right.
>>56940769Sounds like a (You) problem. I am enjoying the current era of Pokémon a lot.
>>56940700first gen on new hardware. Compare that to Gen 5. Meanwhile SV was their 4th Switch game
>>56938223>best selling gen debut game is the worst game>worst selling gen debut game is the best gameyou deserved it
>>56938232Same with Animal crossing really. Breakable golden tools is just plain bad but its the best selling game of the franchise.
