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We need a stall shillmon
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>>56939746
No one likes big and bulky pokemon
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The absolute state of Unova
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bait used to be believable
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>>56939746
No way Greinja has this much porn
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>>56939746
>"we need a stall shillmon"
>shows snorlax, who's best competitive showing both official and unofficial is in a stall-heavy format
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>>56939746
Why is Ho-oh not there? It's the first Gen 2 shillmon.
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>>56939746
haha, imagine... tiny Cinderace with giant Lucario girlfriend...
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>>56939787
Snorlax is bulky offense. A stallmon is something like Toxapex.
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>>56939746
God, the OG Kanto art was so ugly.
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>>56939746
With how much they're still pushing Cinderace even in Gen 9, I'd make him the size of Incineroar, atleast until I know for sure they give up on him as a shillmon
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>>56939746
>Typhlosion
>shilled in any capacity
It was missing from the anime from Gen 3 all the way to Gen fucking 7 when it was in a single scene in the Zeraora movie.
>b-but it’s Gold’s signature mon and-
In GSC/HGSS Sugi’s art never paired Gold/Ethan with Cyndaquil, only Chikorita and Totodile. Fanart finally began to sway some spinoffs like Masters and a figure to pair him with Cyndaquil but traditionally it’s ironically been the least shilled Johto starter.
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>>56939746
Add Goodra in Gen 6
Goodra made the jannies loose their minds

and Aegislash
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>>56939746
No we don’t, nobody likes stall
Also Chansey, lol
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>>56939746
snorlax
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>>56939746
oh, this pic is back, let me fix it
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>>56940359
add gen 9 while you're at it
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>>56939746
what does this mean
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>>56939746
>>56939840
it's sad how hard they're trying to shill shitderace when it was dead on arrival
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>>56939746
>Typhlosion
What did OP mean by this?
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blue are odd generations
red are even generations
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>>56940580
>Inteleon higher than cinderace
?
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>>56940580
Forgot Scizor, it has 36.9 points and it's surprisingly higher than Umbreon

>>56940605
Inteleon is in Café ReMix, if it weren't for that, Cinderace would be a little ahead.
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>>56939746
A stall shillmon is only possible if it has 150+ HP and Defenses, a signature ability that reduces all incoming damage on a multiplier basis, renders it immune to damage from ailments, hazards and secondary move effects, and lastly the ability also serves as a free Leftovers and a never-ending source of Leppa Berries.
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>>56940580
Can you explain further? What gives or takes shillpoints?
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>>56940482
Kids are buying his merch and he's a mascot for Japan's National Football team, he's not going anywhere for awhile.
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>>56940580
why is incineroar so low he's hot af
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>>56939746
>size dictates how responsible fans of the respective pokemon are for the fall of the franchise.
It's all really obvious when it's laid out like this.
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>>56940788
Barashit is niche appeal
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>>56940732
This chart doesn't have fan participation, like in Pokemon of the Year positions, or E6 pics.

>Mega forms (5 points if you have 2 mega forms, 4 points if you have one)
>Gmax forms (5 points)
>"Non-debut" alternate forms (5 points if you can use them on battle; 3 points if you can't; 1 point if it's an exclusive spin-off form)
>Exclusive Z-Moves (same thing as mega forms)
>mainline games dexcuts (SWSH and SV; 5 points if it's in both regional dexes; 4 points if 1 regional dex+1 DLC; 3 points if it's in 2 DLCs; 2 points if it belongs to 1 regional dex; 1 point if 1 DLC)
>"prequel" dexcuts (PLA and ZA; 3 points if you're in PLA, I won't count ZA points yet)
>Paradox forms (5 points if you have 2; 4 points if you have 1; 3 points if your paradox form is a fusion)
>Regional/convergent forms (5 points if you have 2 or more; 4 points if you have 1)
>Anime role (from 1 to 5, depending on relevance)
>It's in Pokken (5 points if it's a main fighter; 4 points if it's a support)
>It's in Smash (5 points if it's a main fighter; 3 points if it's a boss; 2 points if it's a pokeball species; 1 point if it's a spirit species)
>It's in Unite (5 points if it's a main fighter; 4 points if it's a prevo; 3 points if it's a background species)
>It's on Pokemon Masters (5 points)
>It's on Café ReMix (5 points)
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>>56940903
Ah I see, I was a bit confused how the owl had more points than roar and how psyduck even got that many but that is because I completely forgot about Unite
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>>56940621
Even being in Cafe I still can't see Inteleon being a bigger shillmon than Cinderace, but sure.
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>>56939746
blaziken and rayquaza are both still shilled harder than gardevoir, gardevoir has only been catching up recently because of the mobile games and tcg
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>>56939746
Where the fuck is lycanroc
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make them start shilling gliscor then.
>stally, but can still function well in offensive sets with SD and acro+fling
>poison heal is an op of an ability
>cool design, appealing to the mass
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>>56939787
>>56939813
Counting everything in the picture, Umbreon's the only thing I'd consider stall.
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>>56942814
His face is dumb and he has twizzlers for arms
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>>56940744
I literally live in Japan and never see anything about Cinderace.
I mean I live a short walk away from a fucking Pokemon Center.
No one likes him here.
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>>56939746
Charizard should be the same size as Pikachu give or take a pixel. Mewtwo should be slightly smaller
Diglett, Koffing, and Voltorb are not shillmons
Vaporeon isn't shilled anymore than any other Eevelution
If Umbreon counts so does Espeon
Its pretty much been confirmed that TPC, or at least Game Freak,does not want Typhlosion to be shilled >>56940537 >>56940253 aren't even the full story but if Typh counts then Decidueye, and Samurott should count to.

>>56939775
>She thinks porn=shilling
touch grasss
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>>56939746
Theres no way Gengar and Eevee get lumped together in that smaller group.
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>>56939824
how do you feel with your bait getting 0 replies until this one?



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