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>>56943312
kek, it gets better

>>56943312
>Most popular Galar gym leader Acemons are KANTOOO
What did they mean by this?

>>56943312
that's a weird pic of sinnoh

>>56943349
>Sinnoh has the most shillmons that are original to its own region than any other region
>B-bros 151 it's totally Kanto...

>>56943312
That's johto

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>>56943312
That's a weird picture of Kalos

>>56943320
Is there a story or explanation behind this?
Like, what if they Polled the UK on their favourite pokemon, and these really are Galar's (UK's) most popular Pokemon?

>>56943406
>Sinnoh has the most shillmons that are original to its own region
Really? I couldn’t tell from all the Geodude, Machop, Zubat, Ponyta, Psyduck, Tentacool, and Magikarp encounters.

>kanto is le bad
cope

>>56943466
>Shitmons in basically every generation

Meanwhile Sinnoh has Piplup, Buizel, Croagunk, Lucario, Garchomp, Weavile and the boxart legends all before the NatDex by the way

Name any other generation with this many shillmons, please. Or are you so bad at the game that you're just going to deflect like most Johto criticism with "I can't find them anywhere!!"

That's Paldea

It has so many godawful character/Pokemon designs it'd make you want to be a genwunner

>>56943534
I don't think that's what's being criticized when the same images get brought up in these threads.
People want a pokemon game that can stand on its own without having Gen 1 shoved in their face.
The pandering makes it feel like they have no faith in their own games if they don't include Gen 1 pokemon.
almost like the one time they actually tried that, the games sold really poorly.

>>56943553
nigga them aint shillmons, that's your furry gooner list
>lucario, piplup, garchomp
and maybe eevees and rotom max

>>56943572
>People want a pokemon game that can stand on its own without having Gen 1 shoved in their face
So you agree DPPt is the worst game in the series, right?

>>56943589
I agree that you're using strawmans to try to flame a thread for your amusement.

>>56943466
Anon, that's not shilling. That's "we don't want to make new Pokemon that fill these niches."

>>56943605
Why are you changing the argument to “shilling” when you originally said “shoved in your face”?

>>56943573
I listed Weavile because it was like the only pre-Sinnoh new mon shown off that wasn't a Baby, Lucario or Manaphy. Buizel and Croagunk were heavily featured in the anime too, that's why I listed them and not their evolutions

And you can't say Garchomp isn't a shillmon when it's one of the most accessible Pseudos in the franchise let alone one of the only Sinnohmons to get a Mega and the ace of the most popular Champion next to Blue and Steven. Like you wouldn't disagree with Metagross being a shillmon despite being LESS featured in RSE than Garchomp is in DPPl

>>56943612
NTA; I'm just pointing out that GameFreak didn't include those Pokemon to prop them up, they did it because they didn't want to have to make more Pokemon to serve the role of obligatory cave bat, obligatory Rock-type, obligatory annoying Surf encounter, and obligatory Fighting-type.

>>56943312
>Behold, The most KANTOOO pandering region
Kanto pandering is a good thing, because Kanto is objectively the best region

>>56943622
>I'm just pointing out that GameFreak didn't include those Pokemon to prop them up
source?

>>56943616
i was saying garchomp IS a shillmon, but fucking buizel and weavile aren't. sure they were featured before DP released, but they're not as ubiquitous in merch and stuff today like lucario, glaceon, or piplup

>>56943648
In the Sinnoh games, the Pokemon are placed in such a way that they are meant to be an obstacle to be overcome rather than solely a reward.
In Galar and Kalos, they are put front and center as either desirable things and unavoidable in your face advertising.
To put it another way, in Sinnoh I can use a repel to avoid almost every single Pokemon you listed. In Kalos I can't avoid the first Pidgey or the Kanto starters, I can't avoid Lucario, and in Galar several of the most important boss battles are Kanto Pokemon. Interestingly, Sinnoh has two examples of unavoidable Kanto Pokemon. One is the Shiny Gyarados at the Lake of Rage being one of the first things mentioned in the game, however this is referencing multiple Pokemon titles and more importantly tells you when the game is set in relation to the others. The second is your Psyduck example, which ranges from shitty in being a lazy roadblock where you can't even catch them to being actually brilliant in that it puts a Pokemon in the world doing something it supposed does and has a solution reference something relevant from the franchise's history. It's why Lillie going to Kanto to cure Lusamine at the end of SM is really great and probably the single best element of Kanto pandering in the game (the second best is Alolan Oak being a great joke, it's a shame it's too fucking literal with every regional form being a Kanto Pokemon where only Exeggutor and maybe Ratticate really benefit from it lore wise).

>>56943648
I don't think you realize you're talking to multiple anons.
I also don't think you know what a strawman is.

>>56943312
Another reason why Galar is based as fuck.

>>56943817
>Galar
>Based
KEK

>>56943725
>In the Sinnoh games, the Pokemon are placed in such a way that they are meant to be an obstacle to be overcome
So you agree Kanto Pokemon are an obstacle, and therefore, purposely shoved into your face more.

>>56943767
>I also don't think you know what a strawman is
Stop projecting.

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>>56943312
Another reason why Galar is cringe as fuck.

>>56943836
>So you agree Kanto Pokemon are an obstacle, and therefore, purposely shoved into your face more.
Dude did you fail debate what kind of response is that. You're literally giving him the win by trying to spin his point into your favor. Embarrassing shitposting, you get an F and should probably kill yourself

>>56943864
Not an argument.

It's another episode of zoomers trying to cope with Kanto having, by far, the best designs. Gen 2 comes in 2nd. Gen 3 in 3rd. Sorry, but this is legitimate one of the clearest examples of new bad old good.

>>56943572
which game was that?

They could expand on sister regions (Kanto-Johto/Unova-Kalos-Galar/Gaia-Alola?) but I don't expect them to put in effort at this point

>>56943436
>tell him no
>leave

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>guys look it's that thing from your childhood again what a nostalgic reference (even though we've already milked it to death by shoving it into every game back to back), do you rike it?

>>56945061
good shitpost sis

>>56943312
I'm so glad gen 9 stopped that shit. It was embarrassing.

>>56945064
you can't say no, retard

>>56945154
>I have NOT played the game
Weird way to out yourself

Ratio of Gen I Pokémon by Generation

Gen I: 151/151 (100%)
Gen II: 151/251 (60.1%)
Gen III: 151/386 (39.1%)
Gen IV: 151/493 (30.6%)
Gen V: 151/649 (23.3%)
Gen VI: 151/721 (20.9%)
Gen VII (Alola): 151/807 (18.7%)

Ratio of Gen I Pokémon by regional Pokédex
>Hoenn Pokédex (RSE): 47/202 (23.3%)
>Hoenn Pokédex (ORAS): 47/211 (22.3%)
>Sinnoh Pokédex (DP): 32/151 (21.2%)
>Sinnoh Pokédex (Platinum): 46/210 (21.9%)
>Unova Pokédex (BW): 0/156 (0%)
>Unova Pokédex (B2W2): 38/300 (12.7%)
>Kalos Pokédex: 110/457 (24.1%)
>Alola Pokédex (SM): 87/302 (28.8%)
>Alola Pokédex (USUM): 98/403 (24.3%)
>Galar Pokédex: 51/400 (12.8%)
>w/ Updates + DLC: +64
>Total: 115/584 (19.7%)
>Hisui Pokédex: 52/242 (21.5%)

Kanto bloat goes
SM > USUM > XY > RSE > ORAS > Platinum > PLA > DP > SwSh > B2W2 > BW

Honestly I'm pretty shocked by Galar's results, but Kanto Pokémon do get an exorbitant amount of attention with Gigantmax and major character usage relative to all the other regions.

>>56945483
galar has mostly unovamons i think

>>56945483
>>Galar Pokédex: 51/400 (12.8%)
You'd expect a lot more with how much people screech "CHARIZARD FROM KANTOOOOOOO!!!"

>>56943436
XYbros.........

>>56945534
ew. that's gay

>>56945483
This doesn't take into acccount the actual encounters per route. DP is honestly the second worst in spamming Kanto encounters (after GSC, arguably), yet unlike GSC, which at least had a lot of variety, DP spams the same small set of Rock Tunnel Kanto shitmons throughout much of the Sinnoh map. Geodude is in both the caves and the grass. Zubat is in both the caves and even the water, etc. Sinnoh might as well by Mt. Coronet DLC to Kantooooo's Rock Tunnel.

>>56945559
so what? gen 1 mons are good.
only zoom zoom trannies seethe about gen 1 catering because they aren't being pandered to

>>56943312
>>56943320
It's like it doesn't have its own identity.

>>56946101
I guess it's lore-accurate lol

>>56945700
kys, fucking retard

>>56943436
XY is Kanto's bitch

>>56943349
Bot post

>>56943641
>Weavile
>Not a shillmon
Just say you’re underage

>>56943312
>furshit
>barashit
>Gengar
what did they mean by this?

>>56945065
Green Hill Zone appearances in mainline Sonic games:
>Sonic 1
>Sonic Adventures 2
>Sonic Generations
>Sonic Mania
>Sonic Forces
>Sonic Frontiers
6 out of 16, meh

>>56943436
YAWNFAG GONNA FREAK

It's not genwar if it's pro unova

>>56946267
Why would he freak? According to the Sinnoh fans in this thread, Kanto Pokemon appearing in the game doesn’t actually count as Kanto pandering.

>>56946314
wtf u cant just talk about yourself in the third person like that. go back to sleep

>>56945065
If it were Pokemon, at some stage involving a city and some NPCs, the city would have a street that would simulate Green Hill, there would be a museum in honor of Green Hill, and they wouldn't shut up about the magnificent trees and loops in the region and how they wanted to visit it. Even Tails and Knuckles would mention it.

>>56945064
>tell him no
Thanks for reminding me of that story

>>56943312
>>56943320
Weebs.

>>56943436
XY is the Cuck Generation

Strange how Urshifu isn't popular in Galar despite Mustard having been champion for decades

>>56946543
>Barashit isn't popular
imagine my shock

>>56943636
I have nothing against kanto, but it's not a good thing for games to go overboard on it because then that means they're using old things a crutch to make their games "good" instead of letting the game be its own thing

>>56946580
but Machamp is popular

When you hit up the galar league you see the starters and perserker in all the promo materials ingame.

>>56946624
i seriously doubt it

>>56946735
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>>56945700
>Geodude was the only generic Rock-type
>Zubat was the only bat
Yes, how dare they use the only options they had.

>>56946759
Gen 1 had even fewer options and even the Gen 1 games didn’t spam Geodude and Zubat as much as Sinnoh retardedly did. Why not use Mawile or Sableye or Lunatone or Solrock or Aron or Cubone or Larvitar? Or invent a new Rock Pokemon if you’re going to flood the game with a dozen shitty cave areas? Oh right, it’s because they had to shove those Pokemon to shitty postgame gimmicks like dual slot and swarms so people can brag on reddit about how much postgame the game has.

We had this thread before.

>>56946725
Shhhhhhh you're messing up the narrative OP is trying to make.

>>56946725
Oh yeah the starters who didn't even get a gigantamax form in their own region but CHARIZARD did before the DLC

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>>56946852
that's not xy anon

>>56946875
>Gigantamax
>XY
Retard

>>56946875
>this kill the kaloskek

>>56946877
show me your mega delphox then (:

>>56946892
What that does have anything to do with everything i said

>>56946892
>XY
>DLC
Retard

>>56946908
show me your pokemon Z then (:

>>56946901
>its another "mega are not a gimmick" shitposter
lool

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Holy shit! it's leon! the unbeatable champiorino!! can you guess who's his ACE pokemon???

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>>56946943
Cinderace!!!

>>56946943
>gen 3 champion ace: gen 3 mon
>gen 4 champion ace: gen 4 mon
>gen 5 champion ace: gen 5 mon
>gen 8 champion ace: gen 1 mon

>>56946963
How do I get Gigantamax Charizard in gen 1?

>>56946963
Honestly the most arbitrary one of all

>Gen VI champion ace: Gen III mon

>>56946967
You trade your Gen I Charizard on 3DS Virtual Console up to Sword/Shield and get Gigantamax factor on it. It's pretty easy! Oh, you thought you had a point because Gigantamax doesn't exist in Gen I. Well, it's not like Gigantamax exists in any game outside of Sword and Shield. Which only unrestrained fluid brained animals bought. You didn't buy Sword or Shield, did you?

>>56946977
So Leon also uses a gen 8 Pokemon as his ace, since it’s not available in any other gen outside of 8. And his ace is actually MORE exclusive than any of the other champions. Good to know.

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>HOLY! IS THAT A CHARIZARD!? THE FIRE TYPE FIRST PARTNER POKEMON FROM THE KANTO REGION!? OH MY ARCEUS!!

>>56946996
>Unlike others of their species, Pikachu, Meowth, and Eevee with the Gigantamax Factor cannot evolve. Along with Duraludon, they are also blocked from transfer to games other than Pokémon Sword and Shield to prevent them from evolving in other games.

You might have had a point if it were one of these, but Charizard can be transferred out of SwSh into SV and back while not losing its Gigantamax Factor

Ergo, it is not native to Gen VIII

>>56946240
>4 out of 5 of the most recent mainstream 3D Sonic titles have had Green Hill
>the only one that didn't was lost world which had store-brand Green Hill (Windy Hill) instead

>>56945483
Ratio of Gen I Pokémon by regional Pokédex (minus new Pokémon introduced that Generation/game)
>Hoenn Pokédex (RSE): 47/66 (71.2%)
>Hoenn Pokédex (ORAS): 47/75 (62.7%)
>Sinnoh Pokédex (DP): 32/70 (45.7%)
>Sinnoh Pokédex (Platinum): 46/110 (41.8%)
>Unova Pokédex (B2W2): 38/144 (26.4%)
>Kalos Pokédex: 110/457 (28.6%)
>Alola Pokédex (SM): 87/221 (39.4%)
>Alola Pokédex (USUM): 98/320 (30.6%)
>Galar Pokédex: 51/319 (15.9%)
>w/ Updates + DLC: +64
>Total: 115/495 (23.2%)
>Hisui Pokédex: 52/227 (22.9%)

RSE > ORAS > DP > Platinum > SM > USUM > XY > B2W2 > SwSh > PLA > BW

To put it by region, and counting Kanto and Johto which don't have regional Pokédexes in the strictest sense
Kanto > Johto > Hoenn > Sinnoh > Alola > Kalos > Unova (B2W2) > Galar > Hisui > Unova (BW)

While >>56945483 is
Kanto > Johto > Alola > Kalos > Hoenn > Sinnoh/Hisui > Galar > Unova

>>56945483
>>Ratio of Gen I Pokémon by regional Pokédex
>>Unova Pokédex (BW): 0/156 (0%)
god this is too cool to read

>>56947215
This. It’s so cool how instead of using Kanto Pokemon, they used uglier more forgettable rehashes of Kanto Pokemon while copy/pasting designs to pad the dex.

>>56946875
Kalos got cucked so hard

>>56947226
now say this without crying looking at diglett vs drilbur

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