Do forms like Primal forms (Kyogre & Groudon) and Origine formes (Dialga & Palkia) count as regional forms?
no, they're just held item-induced form changes. these have been a thing since the original DP
>>56947010Was it intentional to make these origin forms look weak and pathetic. Imagine this amputee trying to fight lmao, a slight breeze and it would flop all over like a magikarp.
>>56947010no you fucking zoomer
>>56947016they're some of the weakest legendaries in the series so probably>take dialga out of the spinoff>it still doesn't have items or abilitieswhat did they mean by this
>>56947010yeah, primal kyogre is hoennian kyogre, and origin dialga is sinnohan dialgia
>>56947010Why did shitsui desecrate sinnoh like this
they had an opportunity to make cool unique forms for dialga and plakia but instead they went heres arceus but worse
>>56947042This. And they made a faggy goodra and enamorus.Who was pla made for? Faggots and troons I guess
>>56947042>Palkia origin>Looks like a centaur with arms amputated below the shoulder
>>56947016It seems that's the point>Dialga's signature move is Roar of Time>Has a fleshlight blocking his throat>Palkia's signature move is Spatial Rend>No arms
>Giratina Origin formCool ass worm dragon>Palkia and Dialga Origin formsAbortions
>>56947010>Primal forms>Origine formes>regional variantsall of these were a mistake
>>56947245but variants can help give new life to existing pokemon while accommodating for the fact that Eviolite exists and is so overwhelmingly powerful all pokemon design has to warp around it and be very careful about adding cross gen evos, since the ability to use eviolite might end up completely eclipsing anything the evolution might add.
>>56947837>Eviolite Scyther>Eviolite Porygon 2>Eviolite Dusclops>Eviolite Vigoroth>Eviolite Dunsparce>Eviolite Piloswine>Eviolite Rhydon>Eviolite Dipplin
It sucks their signature moves didn't get new behaviors in these forms.
>>56947837>but variants can help give new life to existing pokemoni don't want this when it often just means slapping a beard on it or slapping spikes, eye liner and skin teeth.>Eviolite exists and is so overwhelmingly powerful all pokemon design has to warp around it and be very careful about adding cross gen evosyou say that like this is a bad thing but this is actually somewhat valid defense for adding evos if anything. there's a problem however>since the ability to use eviolite might end up completely eclipsing anything the evolution might add99% of fully evolved pokemon have higher HP and/or defenses than their pre evolutions, so using and NFE with Eviolite is kind of a waste when you could achieve similar or better results with the final stage (especially if it also happens to be compatible with an item that aids it defensively like Leftovers or Assault Vest). I am aware that some NFEs have higher HP, Defense, and/or Special Defense than their final evolved forms, or sometimes a useful ability that they upon evolution, but these are rare cases
>>56947924*lose upon evolution
>>56947033KekUnderrated post
>>56947042>>56947238>Giratina gets a dank new form in Platinum>Dialga and Palkia get new forms 12 years later and they're fucking abominations>the excuse is that they're meant to be "closer" to Arceus which is why they look like shitThen why doesn't Giratina-O look like shit huh Gamefreak? You fucking hacks. Primal Groudon and Kyogre look cool as fuck and then we get whatever the fuck Dialga-O and Palkia-O are supposed to be.
When will they make the gen 4 remake without the tranny goyslop and shitty origin forms
>>56948212Enamorous fucks your bitch
