Kicked out of the Active Zone Edition>Friend ID Surveyhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScx82fFuZO5JSneihERecx5UKEJv42EGQKYZM3flPh_ERIa-A/viewform?usp=sf_link>Friend ID Sheethttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGhOfaMX6D_YUR-P39_OJdVmAl0uacohIRstE9oN9SQ/edit?usp=sharing>Tournament results/decklistshttps://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET&format=all&platform=all&type=online&time=4weeks>Upcoming events/datamines/schedule:https://pocket.codex.gg/news/schedule//vp/ battle passwords to battle with other anons (might want to say in thread which one you wanna battle under so others can join you)>/vp/ anything:vp>/vp/‘s own meta (no coin flips of any kind, no ex, no Dragonite):vpnx>meta decks or high level play:vpmetaPrevious:>>56951339
It's funny because Sabrina is sending the bottle cap to the bench.
>open 10 Mewtwo packs>not a single card I wated and all I wanted was specific commons
>>56953792First for stop using this gay tag
>>56953739First of all, 4 Hourglasses a day from the missions is 3 days.Second, you're not including Hourglasses from the monthly shop.
Pocket Monster Trading Card Game Pocket
>>56953807Pocket MTCG Pocket
>56953802We get it. You can stop yelling at clouds now. It won’t make you any luckier
>>56953810ポケポケ
>>56953802Literally all my pulls yesterday and today were dead, the idea that basically my whole week could be dead is so grating
Finally at least something. (Regular) Charizard EX.
When are we getting a new event, I'm bored.
>work really hard to build a deck with venusaur>lose every matchsorry for trying to have fun guys
>>56953829Tomorrow
>last few days went top right 3 times in a row on a Mewtwo EX wonder picks>it was top center every time
>>56953838>free Blaine deck if you turn notifications on and obsessively check your phone for a week straightCool event.
>>56953842Holding a steady course is clown food. Roll a die.
>>56953802I was drowning in gold. I pulled like.. 8 alt arts from mewtwo alone, and yet I didn't manage to pull a single muk.
Just pulled a rare pack but I'm not sharing, no one here is allowed to be happy
>>56953871You just shared about it
>>56953871He turned of sharing in his settings so you must be mistaken.
>>56953885 4 >>56953880
>>56953844You don't need to do either.
THERES NOTHING TO DOTHERES NOTHING TO DOTHERES NOTHING TO DO
>>56953867>using gold on packs>unironically putting money in a gacha gameNGMI.
>>56953902I'm literally deck testing a new brew rnSounds like a skill issue
>>56953902I am saying this aloud right now
>"""nothing to do""">refuses to play tourneys or even just versus with /ptpg/ friendshmm
>>56953902THERESNOTHINGTODOHERESNOTHINGTODOTERESNOTHINGTODOTHRESNOTHINGTODOTHEESNOTHINGTODOTHERSNOTHINGTODOTHERENOTHINGTODOTHERESOTHINGTODOTHERESNTHINGTODOTHERESNOHINGTODOTHERESNOTINGTODOTHERESNOTHNGTODOTHERESNOTHIGTODOTHERESNOTHINTODOTHERESNOTHINGODOTHERESNOTHINGTDOTHERESNOTHINGTOOTHERESNOTHINGTOD>>56953913
Why do people always want something to do in 5 minute toilet games.Do you really want to have 5+ hours a day of content in a game like this? Isn't there other stuff to play?
>>56953917I'm busying doing the expert solo battles.
>>56953917wow yes can't wait to sign up for a tourney where i get to play against>misty/uno>mewtwo>pika>occasional zard/moltreshow exciting!!!
>56953902You do know that there’s a button you can press to play an infinite amount of games of Pokémon Trading Card Game: Pocket, right? You DO know how unusual this is for a mobile game, right?Fuck you and fuck your (You)
I finally fought an Omastar deck. Omastar seems decently strong, especially against decks that try to build up one strong pokemon like Dragons/mewtwo/Charizard. If I ever get a second one, I'd run it but I'm not sure what to support it with, the guy I was fighting used bruxish.
>>56953926is that supposed to be different from playing online? Or are you just not playing any sort of pvp?
Guess I'll die then
>ah yes play the same 2 decks you paypigs bought every gamekys
>>56953924I'm not one of the people complaining, but I think there's plenty to do if you have all the cards. The issue is that you don't have all the cards unless you whaled, and you probably only have a couple actual decks that even can be played in a format where Pika and Mewtwo are rampant.
Goalpost? Moved.
>>56953902you can buy cheap gold tomorrow
>>56953931I'd say Pidgeot would pair nicely but it's also another Stage 2
Sabrina should bounce on my cock
>>56953958hi im sabrina
>>56953940I don’t know what kind of “rampant” you guys are always talking about. I play 10+ games in the event queue per day with a 70-80% winrate using stuff like venu/eggs, Koga, and Blaine, and see pika and mewtwo a combined total of 10% of games at the very MOST. Your tier 0 boogeyman is all in your heads>muh tournamentsTournament meta percentages only apply to tournaments and not the in-game ladder. Even so neither Pikachu nor mewtwo are unbeatable. The gap between those and the absolute bottom of the barrel isn’t as wide as you might think
>>56953958It's not Sabrina but here's soemthinghttps://e-hentai.org/s/b0d5f4ebc7/1316075-1
>>56953964>event queuedrop in to TCG player queue, you'll start seeing more meta decks. I haven't run into that much pika but out of the 5-10 games I play every day, I ALWAYS see at least one mewtwo deck.
>>56953931Personally I'm running golduck for early game pressure. Omastar is basically a hard counter to build up decks like charizard and mewtwo, but only if they don't get the opportunity to build another one to swap in and one shot you. You can't be passive while you wait to set up Omastar, you want to pressure them early until they're forced to bring in their wincon to stop you, and then answer that wincon with Omastar.
>>56953964>I don’t know what kind of “rampant” you guys are always talking about.>Your tier 0 boogeyman is all in your heads>Tournament meta strawmanUhh... most of the decks I play against are Pikachu and Mewtwo.
>open game>check wonder pick>nothing>repeat>finally get an interesting wonder pick with 3 cards I'm missing>get a card I already had>packs have been nothing but cards I already had for days>nominated for game of the year
>>56953805But the reward for doing 3 daily missions is 3 hourglasses, not 4.Oh, you're right, I did not include the shop. So with the shop that would be 1 pack per 2,29 days. Considering that on average you need to open 3687 packs to get all cards, you would need to spend around 1610 days opening packs at this rate.
>>56953909no a metaphornot actually buying, what I mean is I kept getting diamonds when I wanted iron. y'feel me?
>>56953935INTERACTIVE GAMEPLAYNTERACTIVEGAMEPLAY
>>56954004>But the reward for doing 3 daily missions is 3 hourglasses, not 4.False. I know it says "3" in the little picture with the progression bar, but when you claim it, you get 4. The same thing happens in the new account Advanced mission where you get 120 hourglasses. It says only "9" or something. That's a progress bar that indicates how many missions you must complete, not what the reward is.
>>56953993>loving girl x tentacle monster relationship
GamersPidgeot + FearowTrust>but anon the coin flipYesTrust
>>56953926This is Bird Keeper propaganda and I will have none of it
>>56954003What, anon? This is an award-winning experience!
>>56954004The little 3 in the picture means you need to complete 3 missions. When you redeem it, it gives 4 glasses. Do people simply refuse to use their eyes or are you being purposefully obtuse because you've been caught being blatantly wrong?
>>56954014Gotta check this tomorrow. I feel like I also completely fucked up the calculation there, lemme try again.2 per day from timer+1 per 1,9 day (or 0,52 per day) from hourglasses that's a total of 2,52/dayAt 3687 packs needed on average to get all cards that comes out to 1463 days or almost exactly 4 years of opening packs.
>>56953934what the fuck are you talking about? i'm saying those are the decks used in every tourney match or Versus match in the app.
>gacha sperg seething so hard it's spam samefagging it's bait postsKek
>>56954023It's only a coinflip if you don't decide you'll hit heads every time.
>>56954023In theory might work against people trying to stall, but I'd still rather go Pidgeot + Arbok to trap and kill the venusaur/zard/whatever is hoarding the energy.
>>56954042Are you ready to open Pikachu/Mewtwo/Charizard packs for 4 YEARS F2P players? Oh yeah, it's gonna be so exciting! At least we're not as bad off as Diablo Immortal, where F2P need to grind for around 40 years to max out their character.
>>56953926I remember back when CawBlade was the undisputed best deck that ever existed, I was tired of playing against it online so I went to my old high school LGS thinking there's no way that it would just all be CawBlade, and it was all CawBlade and one (1) Pyromancer Ascension.
New to this kind of shit, am I missing something with the the shop and the ,"refreshed monthly" header or whatever? Seems like it's the same shir as above that but more expensive for no reason.
>>56954067The one without the "refresh" notice is a one time thing, for when you first start, so it's cheaper. The one that is refreshed monthly will, well, be refreshed monthly.
>>56953926You know, he even included playing against friends as an option for the casuals like you who can't handle a little competition and need their "fun"
>>56954067Once the cheaper permanent one is gone, its gone. The monthly one can be re-purchased each month.
>>56954056>Implying I want every card I'm just trying to get Mew
>>56954093Don't feel like making my own calculations, so I'll just steal some reddittard's... I mean, this is obviously a calculation I made myself :^)In order to get Mew you need to open 381 packs on average, which comes out to 151 days, or almost 5 months. That is assuming you are not crafting or wonder picking, which should cut down that time to around 4 months. This is all assuming you are only opening Charizard/Mewtwo/Pikachu packs, as new sets/mini-sets would make it take longer.
>>56954056oh noo how will I manage without full art lt surge
>>56953993Hail Lord Helix
>>56953924I don't want a ton of stuff that NEEDS to be done, but I like when gacha games have some stuff you can whittle away at whenever you're bored. There's the solo battle missions, but I'm almost done those and aside from them, there's only dex completion which you can't really do much about unless you're a whale. There's not much reason to grind PVP without the added incentive of event missions, but lots of people have already gotten all the necessary wins for those. I don't want to be overloaded with stuff I need to do in x days, but some more long-term missions I can whittle away at whenever I'm bored and have time to spare could be nice.
>>56954003I'm too scared to use my stamina on minor missing stuff since every time I do something I actually want appears
>>56954093same i need 27 cards left...
>>56954111546 packs or a bit over 216 days (7 months) to get all 1-4 diamond rarity cards.
>>56954120I’m 14 away and it feels hopeless desu. I don’t want to spend money on it since it’s not a relevant game piece. If the new set comes out and I don’t have it yet I probably won’t ever get it lol
Never have I ever seen someone running a Seadra even though it seems like a great partner to Articuno.
>>56954113>Praise the HelixHoly based
Worth mentioning Mew is unlocked after ANY card from the original 150 pokémon is obtained.If a new set contains Gen 1 pokemon (it will), then those will also count.
I have over 40 cards left to get for Mew and I keep hitting repeat after repeat, most of the cards I'm missing are the slightly higher rarity cards like Kangaskhan and Jolteon, it feels like every day is wasted
>>56954136Seadra won't sea play until Kingdra is out.Too frail when better stage 1s like Vaporeon exist
>>56954140>dena is going to be generous with a secret unlockableFunny joke, anon
>>56954111You wanna take one of mine? I have lots of shit I'm missing still and I don't need two of the smug fuckers.
>>56954142are we getting new pack leaks tomorrow or not until december?
>>56954147If the literal free promos from the Lapras event packs count, why wouldn't a new set count?
>>56954140We don't know which gen 1 mons and how many of them will be included in future sets. It is quite possible that the ones you are missing will be left out.
>>56954156I wish I knew since I'm really tempted to just start dropping my HGs on this pack at this point but I fear something I want coming out next month
>>56954156tomorrow is the blaine event
>>56954142This is normal. The more cards you have, the lower your chance of getting new cards.
>>56954159Yeah, of course. That's expected. I'm just saying that, as long as the game keeps going, you'll not be forever locked to Genetic Apex to unlock Mew.
>>56954164Blaine is a painAnd that's the truth
feels like the only way to gets thanks out of my opponents is to attach and attack with some off meta pokemon and pretend that I've completely bricked
>>56954140Do EXs count for mew, or is it like the mewtwo icon mission where I'm still stuck at 0/5 because I have 5 mewtwo EX but not a single regular mewtwo.
>>56954193ANY Pokémon card that has one of the original 150 Pokémon. Yes, EX counts, Full arts counts, Crown Rare counts.
>>56954193EX cards are different cards. You need, for example, a poliwrath and not a poliwrath ex.
>>56954198Promos don't thoughever.It ticks me off that I need to find a normal Butterfree
>>56954188I thank only two kinds of players:- those I beat, as a form of BM- those that play decks with no Ex, as a form of respect
>>56954208Wrong. For Mew specifically, either one would work.>>56954210Are you sure? Someone claimed not long ago that the Promo Lapras did it for them.
Why does grass have no energy support? Its not low cost at all aside from the tree. I tried running shit like butterfree and venu and it just doesn’t work, too slow
>>56954223Lilligant.
I always thank everyone because I also return the shopping cart every time.
>>56954223>Why does grass have no energy support?*yet>ts not low cost at all aside from the tree. I tried running shit like butterfree and venu and it just doesn’t work, too slowRight now grass is all about healing with erika, butterfree, etc
>>56954232Based and same.
>>56954232based
> Been playing gyarados in my water deck for shits and giggles since I need something to use my mistys on> Wonder pick an articuno ex somehow> Drop one flop boy for itIt's a fun fish, but by the time you charge it (if you manage), the energy removal doesn't really do shit. I wish there was some other non ex water card that takes a bunch of energy and does something cool. Blastoise could be it, but it's stage 2.
>>56954223Beedrill
>>56954261it also doesnt make sense flavor wise so that kind of kills it for me
>>56954232I sometimes borrow shopping carts for transporting things not related to shopping, but I always return them.
Assuming promos and EX count, I still need 55 more kanto mons for mew. I wanna pull on other packs so bad but I still haven't gotten the card I'm aiming for......
>>56954223Im clapping cheeks with exeggutor ex and butterfree atm, very cheesy and fun>>56954232if someone lost and doesnt thank i just assume theyre butthurt
playing battles puts me to sleep
>>56954261Actually, if you hit a Mewtwo that is not yet charged you could deny it a oneshot.
>>56954261Gary Ex for the miniset, trust the plan
>>56953792>playing vs dragonite>shit game for me>score is 2-2>playing my only out>I have three mon on the field>only one of them can survive a hit for 100+>dragonite proceeds to roll his only lose conlmao>immediately after>wonder pick featuring full art dragonite + gardevoir >snag the dragonite for 13 hourglassesThe game just wanted to demonstrate how bad the card is before giving it to me.
Misty players have 100% winrate. If we win we win, if we play first it doesn't count, and if we flip tails we concede and try again.
>>56954285Old-school anime tie-ins would be the dead giveaway that they’re pandering to the genwunners
I like how this deck can still somehow win after stalling for 10 turns to finally draw my Charizard. Once it's out, you're fucking toast.
>Collectable Game>No NFTsBoycot this shit, No NFT No Play
>>56954287Dragonite is one of the best "coinflip" pokemon, the major problem with it is getting it evolved with the energy it needs in the first place. Once he's actually out with 4 energy its very difficult to lose with. Nothing beats going down 2, switching in Dragonite and getting 3 points in one attack.
>>56954283In theory, but in all my games I managed to do that maybe once or twice. Timing needs to be just incredible, plus getting lucky with misty and whatnot
This drought of thanks from battles is honestly absurd. I literally give thanks ever single match unless my opponent disconnects when he's dead on board and wastes my time. I'm prepared to gut my friend list and then do the thanks for the showcases everyday if we get a group of 6 dedicated anons or whatever. Mewtwo Gard but draw? ThanksDouble Pikachu going second? ThanksLas Vegas Bonehead always hits? Nice man, thanksMisty flip 3 heads on turn 1 Sharticuno? Thanks, nice draw.What's so hard about this.
>>56954140>ANY card from the original 150 pokémon is obtained.This needs a source about with someone unlocking mew with promo cards, because the mission is part of Genetic Apex themed collections and has no reason to include non-set cards.
>>56954320>thanks for the showcases everydayThis isn't returning the shopping cart. This is walking around the lot putting away other people's carts. Cuckoldry.
Mewtwo Fossil fag here.After playing lots with Pika, I am. Convinced Pikachu is just not great. Even against matchups like zard that supposedly are bad for Mewtwo, I just win more with Mewtwo than Pika. Only the Dark matchup feels significantly improved. Pikachu is sort of a Jack of all trades (matchups) but a master of none. I keep waffling back and forth between Raichu and Zebra. Raichu feels a lot more powerful but way less consistent. At this point I think I'll just be back to playing exclusively? Mewtwo until the next set.
>>56954280Opening 200 packs only gives you a 40% chance to get a specific 2-star card.
>>56954320>if we get a group of 6 dedicated anons or whateverYour issue might be that you're friending anons. I think I only have 1 anon who likes my showcase, the rest are random Japanese people I played against in the event queue. I get 5 thanks every single day, and I always like all of my friend's showcases.
>>56954325They will need to also put my carts away for me or I'll stop, sir
>>56954285You'll get Liko EX.And you will be happy.
>>56954331I agree with you that Mewtwo is better/more consistent, but if you never got a 2nd Zapdos then you're not actually playing Pikachu. Also, are you ready to admit yet that it has more lines to consider than Mewtwo?
>>56954320I'm very liberal with my thanks. It's only truly infuriating shit that makes me not give one, win or lose. For example, I hate having matches decided in one coinflip, but if a Bonehead manages to decimate me with all heads? I gotta give them props.
>>56954113are fossils playable? iirc you cant find helix/dome (from melony)/amber off pokeball which screams inconsistency issues + being stage 2 in a big basics metagame, but i do want to make them work
>>56954306https://www.reddit.com/r/PTCGP/comments/1gwk0nk/
>>56954344I just want the immersives, man. You can keep your crownslop and whatever.
EVENT TODAYPRAY FOR A MEATY PATCH IN HOPE FOR DATAMINES
>>56954305Aren't NFTs already a bust? Can't wait for bitcoins to do the same.
>>56954301Unless you get Jynxed, Alakazamed, put to sleep, Omastared, Sabrina'd or Aerodactyled.
>>56954324all the item cards are in the promo set yet the genetic apex deck missions include them.
>>56954223BEHOLD! Is this good? No. Is it consistent? No, but it's funny to beat Charizard an Pikachu when you get Victreebel.
>>56954357They're still useful for money laundering.
What's the best way to play Machamp EX? From what I'm seeing people run Marowak EX with it but that just seems disjointed and inconsistent/lame. Is the deck just waiting for future support?
>>56954357>Can't wait for bitcoins to do the same.t. 2016 Biden
>>56954373You can just rawdog Machamp EX and nothing else. You can play it with something like a Kangaskhan or Farfetch'd. You can play it with Golbats for the Mewtwo matchup (since you already rape Pika). Up to you. I do recommend playing Pokedexes in any deck that runs a threevo though, especially if the threevo is your wincon. That might just be personal preference, but it's way better than a fucking Red Card, especially if there is shit that you need to be finding.
The latest cook, I tested it a bunch into the expert pika and did fairly well, but I actually don't have the second pidgeotto rn so I can't actually play it on ladder I'm saving my craft for gengar ex If someone actually tries this tell me how it feels, I do think rapidash Blaine has potential to build around, but I haven't tried the dual color version yetX speed is a flex spot rn, could be a sabrina or second kang
>>56954389>putting "control" into RDWWhy?
>>56954360Mew mission counts EX but not promos https://ptcgp.raenonx.cc/en/mission/card/MI_CC_0002010_01_CARD_016Owari da
>>56954338Sar, I was waiting for 2nd zappy to try it. Work on reading comprehension.In response to your spoiler, lol. Absolutely lol. Raichu version had the most depth to the gameplay of all the versions, but the deck is far more forgiving of mistakes IMO. Also, Mewtwo having both better nut draws and more consistency is hilarious to me. I thought going in that Pika would have more consistency, but in reality it somehow how MORE games where you can't even play than mewtwo. Only reason it dominated early tournaments was because people were still learning how to play Mewtwo at a high level and Pika is much simpler to pilot, and more forgiving of mistakes.
>>56954344Fossils are playable, but not the ancient Pokemon. Those are unplayable.Not getting found by pokeball is a feature, not a bug.Pretty damn sure Charizard should play 2.In Mewtwo I'm constantly teetering between 2nd fossil and 2nd potion. Basically, drawing 2 fossils is not great, but drawing two potions is excellent. On the other side, you REALLY want to have a fossil in tons of matchups and gamestates.
>>56954389>Pokemonmeta
>>56954369Does Victreebell let you decide what to pull in? Literally just read that card for the first time kek. Never seen a bellsprout in play.
Would you ride a magic Mewtwo themed dildo to completion if it guaranteed you a god pack for every other pack you pull until this game's EOS?
>>56954400The idea I had was rapid tanks a pika hit and still pumps dmg + Blaine and softens up all their mons so pidgeotto can come in and one shot anything it drives off, and at 100 hp helps stall like Kang for you to find the stage 2Lots of kill pressure on its own to for easy prize points with all the extra burn, I also don't believe pidg is a control mon since you have to be able to kill what you swap in or they'll just swap it back out, and unless you hit pidg on curve you're not going to be delaying much swapping shit
>>56954331>>56954338I hate you two the most in these threads
Do you guys always thanks people when you do wonder pick regarless of the result or only if you get what you want?
>>56954424It's the best Dkayed could get. The pocketmeta.com domain was reserved 11 years ago.
>>56954432depends:>why is it magic?>how big is it?>would it destroy the function of my colon?>will the god packs give me the cards I'm actually looking for?
>>56954344Omastar is strong enough to build a deck around. Aerodactyl can be put into any deck but it's a big gamble of either losing a pokemon for nothing or taking their big damage dealer off the board instantly. Kabutops seems not amazing with low damage output for a stage 2 and not enough health for the healing to really be worth it.
>>56954373I think the best fighting build is Marrowhack Ex + Primeape.Machop line seems too weak to justify playing a stage 2.Also, it should be apparent by now that everyone should be packing a red card, but I'm glad people still don't.
>>56954432Setting aside that I'm not gay and how much of a bitch that would pulling three-diamond cards that don't have full-art variants, wouldn't DeNA notice suspicious activity on my account and ban me?
>>56954428Yes, but it can only target basic Pokemon and Victreebel has to be the active Pokemon. Don't worry, most people I play against don't know how it works either.
>>56954357>Cant wait for bitcoin to bustYou would have sounded less retarded if this was still 2011. NFTS are stupid scam tied to crypto, but crypto itself isn't going anywhere
>>56954449I saw a deck from megamogwai of weezing + kabutops I want to try, I can't fucking roll a kabuto for the life of me and I really don't want to craft them
>>56954408>Sar, I was waiting for 2nd zappy to try it. Work on reading comprehension.You didn't say anything about finally getting the 2nd Zapdos in your post. I'm not here 100% of the time, and even if I was I don't read every post. If you got your 2nd Zapdos, then congrats.>In response to your spoiler, lol. Absolutely lol.>Only reason it dominated early tournaments was because people were still learning how to play Mewtwo at a high level and Pika is much simpler to pilotKinda getting conflicting messages here. I think Mewtwo is better, more consistent, and also simpler to pilot, because it only really has one gameplan. My spoilers ask if you're ready to admit that Pikachu has more lines to consider (i.e. is "more difficult"), and you said "Absolutely", but then your last statement says that Pikachu is simpler to pilot, which I don't think is the case at all, and if you agree with my spoiler, then neither do you. Whatever though. Because I got shitposted for 2-3 days, and because you said things like "I've been playing [a different card game] for years so I don't actually need to play a deck to have an opinion about it" I'm just gonna throw in a cheeky "I told you so" and leave it at that.
>>56954439>free ticketsalways thank, it's not their fault I got my 7th heliolisk
after two weeks the game finally opened a charmeleon for me inside a pack, I claimed my second moltres with points and my charizard deck is complete. I'll now open pikachu packs because I got the lapras and starmies from my charmeleon hunt. If I'm lucky, I might get a wiggly ex.
>cancelled free trial>catch the very last pack extra pack as it expires>error occured, back to title screen
>>56954444>why is it magic?Hoopa ring magic. So it's literally just a real Mewtwo from the universe where pokemon are real. Hoopa is technically selling your ass to Mewtwo as a Fleshlight.If you try to make the ring bigger to enter the pokemon universe, you get immediately vaporized.>how big is it?7 inches, and less girth than a 16oz water bottle>would it destroy the function of my colon?No, you would have an incredible orgasm though.>will the god packs give me the cards I'm actually looking for?Yes, until you're satisfied with your holo collection.>>56954452DeNA would just assume you're an anomaly and let you proceed.
>>56954439Why the fuck wouldn't I? I doubt Niggermeister personally chose not to let me pick his rainbow Zapdos. It's DeNA's fault, not the pack player.
>>56954463Mogwai's got some spicy cooks. I think he cottoned on to the fossil tech before other streamers too.
>>56954439I can't when I don't get what i want, i feel so bitter that i want some catharsis, yeah, is petty and pointless but I can't help it.
>>56954454Well, it's gonna stay here for as long as people want to buy it. It's all a huge ponzi scheme anyways.
New solo event when?
redpill me on fossil tech
>>56954484Ice type Iono?
Wasn't the arcanine event supposed to start today?
>>56954451You should always include scopes with your red card to avoid fixing you opponent's dead hand.
Some niggas have all the luck
>>56954348surprised it isnt 4 seperate pings
>>56954483drooling retard, I bet you think credit cards are a "scheme" too
>>56954486Its a free retreat Mon with 40hp. Negates Sabrina. >>56954491Nah just git gud. Handscope is a waste of a card.
>>56954486Are running a stall deck? Include fossils to play around Sabrina. You can also Include a solo Aerodactyl to sometimes wall with 100 HP or clutch a game with a coin flip. But mostly it's just to play around Sabrina and then discard itself when it turns into a liability.
Official tier list by longtime ex-pro TCG player :Tier 1: MewtwoTier 2: Pikachu CharizardTier 3: Marrowhack People's, Articuno Starmie, Weezing Arnold, Arcanine EX, Blaine aggro.
>>56954499While credit does accelerate inflation and puts everyone and their successors in an ever-increasing debt death spiral, I wouldn't say that credit cards are the ones at fault here.
>>56954499I work innthe crypto industry and NFTs are pretty crazy. Many times they are used to extract liquidity from following, similar to memecoins. Other times they develop an actual appreciation like art does. And still other times, they are complex money laundering operations (physical art does the same shit).
>>56954486>usable as meat shield to take hits for your high energy requirement pokemon>can't be searched by pokeball making it easier to guarantee you'll pull the pokemon you need to enact your strategy>can be taken off the board at anytime allowing for easy switch in's>can be put on the bench so Sabrina can't actually pull your important bench pokemon into dangerThey shine the most in decks that only run 1-2 important pokemon since you can pretty much guarantee you'll open with something useful
>>56954506How often do you get Sabrinad when your opponent can only attack for less than 40 damage?
>>56954509Data driven tierlist
>>56954509Marrowhack Primape*
I want to try my luck on this but I don't want to separate them :c>>56954432I'd give it a shot. Nobody would know and I'd never have to spend a cent on this game if all of my holos are guaranteed. People would just think I'm a whale.
>>56954520Not very often. But giving your opponent a free point is better than losing a Charmander or Ralts
>>56954521Data is flawed bc it counts small tournaments the same as large tournaments. Also very fkawed because it relies of results when people are bad at playing this game. A deck like Pika is much easier to pilot and more forgiving of mistakes than Mewtwo
>>56954486If your opponent plays Sabrina the fossil can die for your benched Pokemon's sins.
>>56954520The answer is almost never. I think the thought behind it is just that you don't want to include another Basic that get cuck your opening hand or your Pokeball, and that the Fossil can (occasionally) protect something that you value you more.
>>56954509>weezing arnoldHasta La Vista, baby*farts on you*
>>56954521Where's Cinccino Ditto?
>>56954530>the data is wrong because.... it just is!
>>56954520I'll very often do it turn 1/2 vs pika or the like and put them on have x speed or lose a turn swapping it back in
>>56954539>high energy cost deck with no way to build energy>worse pika exbelow D tier where it belongs
>>56954539Don't even see such combo.https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=pocket
>>56954509>longtime ex-pro TCG playerThis is a hindrance in this game. People are only just now realizing that this is a 20 card deck where (random, it multi colored) energy is given to you every turn and that a 20 card deck, with a starting hand size of 5, where one of those is guaranteed to be a basic plays vastly differently to a 60 card deck with lands.
>>56954546it's the same baiting retard from the past 6 threads, ignore him.
>>56954554https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/671abb150947ec3b5d18a375/player/bearishion/decklist
>>56954546Correlation does not mean causationJust because it shows pikas have a higher win rate does not mean they're automatically better than the mewtwosOn the chart mewtwo is like 22% of all the decks and pika only has 6%, so triple the entrances and shitters weighing down the average
>>56954564>On the chart mewtwo is like 22% of all the decks and pika only has 6%, so triple the entrances and shitters weighing down the averageAre you retarded? The reason Pika has a lower percentage of the metagame is because each Pika variant is its own category. Mewtwo is just always Mewtwo/Gardevoir, so there is no such issue there.
Ermmm???
>>56954557The tournament rules don't ask for energy generation as part of the decklist. Were they allowed to switch it between games?
When there are enough cards, I will make a deck with all female trainers and a few gardevoir typesAnd I will play it so other people can enjoy the art, even if its not competitive.
Every Basic Pokemon that evolves should have an attack for 1 energy, and no evolution should have an attack that costs more than 1 additional energy than its previous form. Evolution is already a huge disadvantage. Not only does it set you back but it just plain feels bad to evolve a Pokemon that can't attack.
>>56954488Nah, that is sango doing an iono cosplay.
>>56954575Tabs.>>56954582Wait to evolve it. What are they going to do, Red Card you?
>>56954572He's baiting, anon.
>>56954582>non-EX Charizard haverI think it wouldn't kill them to give more low cost, low damage attacks to evolutions
>>56954575yjk
>>56954575
>>56954582>basic has a 1 energy attack, but must discard an energy (basically it can't attack)>evolving makes it require 3 energy to attackcharmander is true suffering
>>56954589Are you sure? He's definitely wrong, but he's trying to explain his completely wrong takes with logic that almost makes sense, and the mistakes he's making are definitely the types of mistakes a retard would make.
>>56954579Oh wow I've been in tourneys and there is no way you can say what energy you run in the deck list, and never been asked, I thought about potentially running dark in my dragonite deck and then not in others, and if anyone would think ill of that, but with open decklist maybe ditto can actually shine like this and have a different energy depending on match up.Not every deck and do it but it can be a clutch option for Mewtwo and Zard, even eggy.Now I want to join some smaller tourney with a ditto deck and do just this.
I only installed this game for Charizard, but now I'm at the crossroads of deciding if I should spend my HGs (20 packs' worth) to try for a 2nd crown Charizard or hold to be able to pick up future support for the Charizard deck
>>56954575I don't know how I could be a delinquent if I had such a cute dog as a friend. Mightyena is like a German Shepherd/Hyena mixed thing. It's so cute!
>>56954585>Wait to evolve it. What are they going to do, Red Card you?Worse, they'll just kill the Basic leaving me with a 2 dead cards in hand. Red Card would be a blessing.I actually get that the game is designed so Basic EX are the best decks, I don't even care about beating them, I just want to play my cards. Let my Alakazam die with honor on the Active zone.
>>56954572 I looked it up again and I'll take that backI do think mewtwo is the stronger deck, but pika is overall better into most decks and doesn't get utterly shit on by the counter typing
>>56954614As someone just like you, but with Charizard, just hold. Charizard is one of my favorite pokémon, but I'm fairly worried about the power creep that may or may not be introduced with the next set. There are other pokémon I like that I'm worried I may have to whale for when they're inevitably introduced. Also the Crown Charizard is ugly anyways.
>>56954637You know, and I mean this in the kindest way possible, but it takes you a very long time to eventually arrive (loudly) to the same page that everyone else is already on, so I hope the other anon is correct about you baiting.
>>56954614That's probably not enough unless you get supremely lucky, I'd hold off
>>56954614Crown Charizard is in all three packs. Worry about it later, you might get lucky.
>>56954645Nah but I have seen another guy baiting metafag pika players into seething, so I'll suppose you'll have to look out for them too
>>56954641Whoa nice on the double. How much did that take to get? I rerolled for the 1st and have a 2 star version I use for the 2nd. I also have double of the immersive too I use sometimes over the crown and 2 star.But sure I'll hold. It's just that it gets boring as the days pass with nothing else that's 'easier' I care to really work toward with my account.>Also the Crown Charizard is ugly anyways.I'm not a fan of the 3D modeling being deemed the best since artists are able to show more effort for 2D, but I just wanted to bling out the deck as I use it most often. I hope we get FA Charmeleon eventually for the same reason. I have the double FA Charmander.
>>56954641holy shit i thought i was the only one thought those gold themed EX pokemon looked awful
>>56954575My two wives
>>56953803Agreed, it needs to be /tcgp/ and all other options are retarded
>cant see missing alt arts in the collectionthis annoys me to no end
>>56954672Nah they're gaudy as fuck, the FAs in the 2* with their colored backgrounds are better (except pikachu, pikachus is still lightning/goldish)But it's super rare, so kino!
>>56954432who's completion ? The dildo ? Mine ?What if I cant cum from my ass ?
>>56954486Let's say you have a moltres up front and a little charmander in the back. Your opponent can nab the little shit with sabrina and kill it, fucking your entire gameplan. If you place something else on the bench, you can switch it instead to protect your little charmander. If you use any random pokemon, that pokemon will make your opening hand and pokeball searches less consistent. A wall like snorlax could be taken advantage of if your opponent decides to leave it there while they set up and you can't retreat it. A fossil has none of these downsides. You slap it down early to save your backline, and if it's still there late game you can discard it so that they can't Sabrina to get around your big EX win condition and kill the useless mon on the bench for that last point to win.So any deck based around a big stage 2 pokemon can use fossils.
Parasect is underrated.
>>56954686
Fuck off, I already had 2 of you. You're not even good.
>>56954691damn being objectively worse than kingler is rough
>>56954703typing matterns
>>56954439eh, no, fuck them if they made me bet and lose.
>>56954702I've won a fair few games with a blastoise EX/frostmoth deck. It's really not a bad card just not an instant game winner like charizard or venasaur.
>>56954432I mean, I'd do that even if it didn't guarantee me any god packs, so yes definitely.
>>56954709counterpoint
>>56954709Yeah but can you 1HKO faggots?
>>56954492>implyingThat is his 5th and 6th Pikachu EX while having no other EX cards from the entire pack I guarantee it.
>>56954492This is probably a guy who already had 4-5 Pikachu exs across the different rarities and can't get any of the other ex cards to drop and is missing several commons
I have multiple copies of all the ex birds, two of them the fancy version and I do not have a single non ex of them yet, make it make sense.
>>56954676Exhibit collection > click on the search button (magnifying glass) > scroll to the bottom > you'll find options to show ALL base set cards and all promos.You can't have that as permanent, because DeNA sucks in all possible ways, but it's there if you just need to check things out.
>>56954739Probably more like "STOP GIVING ME FUCKING PIKACHUS YOU NIGGERS I NEED FULL ART MISTY SO I CAN STOP PULLING THIS FUCKING PACK"
>>56954691I just realized Kingler is a better marowak EX
>>56954670I used 10 pack rolls I was saving for Lucario on the Charizard pack because I'm an impatient fuck, and I got rewarded with picrel on 11/11. I got the second immersive from a free pack on my birthday 11/16, and the second Crown I got from a free pack on 11/18. So I got them all from free rolls.>It's just that it gets boring as the days pass with nothing elseThis game is in dire need of some content that's more rewarding than 15xp per won battle.>I just wanted to bling out the deck as I use it most oftenSame, but the gold Charizards are kinda gaudy. I only use the immersives. >I hope we get FA CharmeleonI want that too. I hope if they ever bring Megas into this game, they'll do a better job with the art than how M-Charizard-Y EX looks. >>56954672Yeah they're fucking terrible. I'm not even sure it would be a flex to use them unless your trying to impress 9 year old Timmy on the other side of the screen.
>>56954712Yeah, I know. I'm just really annoyed at getting another one.
>>56954703Cheaper retreat.
>>56954720>only 160 damagelol, lmao even.
>>56954771>>56954670And if you were wondering what it looks like, it looks like this. They'd better introduce some really cool looking art for my boy. I don't want some CGI 3D slop to do him dirty.
>>56954783190 with Blaine
>>56954771The only thing they're really good for is the 64x special shop tickets you get for trading in 2 of them.
>>56954770It trully is.
>>56954787He'll get a cool immserive bro.. TRUST THE PLAN
>>56954783>only 100 damage
>>56954743The ex is literally more common. Let's take a look at the offering rates in game for Articuno Ex vs regular Articuno from the Mewtwo pack for example. For the 4th card in the pack you have a .055% of pulling the full art Articuno ex, a .055% chance of pulling the "Rainbow rare" full art Articuno ex, and a .333% chance of pulling the normal Articuno EX, for a combined total of a .443% of pulling Articuno ex, vs. a .357% chance of pulling the 3-diamond standard Articuno card. For the 5th card in the pack, the chances of pulling either of the full art exs goes up to .222% each and the regular Ex goes up to 1.332% for a total of a 1.776% chance to pull an Articuno ex vs a 1.428% chance to pull the standard Articuno card.
>>56954788>I play counterspellNice try faggot
>>56954641>>56954670PLANETA full art CGs are fucking uggo as hell. It's a shame that some of the best or most rare cards are subjected to that, honestly. I have to believe that at some point we'll get based art exs and can put these in the binder to collect dust or use as bargaining chips.
do I have to stop rerolling now
>>56954770Kingler attacks a turn later, has 20 less health, and has a nastier retreat.
>>56954809>No crownNo.
>>56954800It's called typing and advantage/disadvantage. Every card has it's niche. Zard doesn't even need the extra damage to 1 tap literally everything in the game as of right now.
>>56954809Sure but you will need gard set
is it worth burning 1 or 2 stam on not-rare cards I'd love to have for decks but still don't have?like misty or greninja
>>56954783Fat fuck
>>56954803On top of this fact there is a .050% chance you will open a Rare pack with only one star or better cards and won't be able to pull a three diamond rare but now would have 5 chances to get a legendary bird ex across three different rarities
>>56954809no, crown is the best thing to start off withimmersives are whatever
C- CONTENT.... COOOOOOOONTENTTTTTTTTT
>>56954815why the fuck is the shittier gold art more rare than the unique illustration with a unique animation?
>>56954818Greninja is coming next promo event in like a week or two, hold until thenMisty you can prolly craft if you want it early
>>56954816>100 damage
I’m not playing online until Mimikyu is added to the game. I MUST use my ace mon in battle or I will NOT play.
>>56954825>ugly as fuck>about as rare as pulling a specific 2starBetter off chasing a set of 2stars if this is your brand of autism.
how the fuck am I supposed to build a deckI've been rerolling for days and I still can't even get the two ex's I need, much less anything else I can't even play the fucking game because of this gacha bullshit
>>56954827I, genuinely, couldn't tell you. It would've made more sense for them to flip the drop rates on them. >>56954807I can't stand Planeta of 5ban Graphics. Waste of cardboard if you asked me. I would play the TCG if they weren't so shit.>>56954799He'd better.>>56954791That's what it seems like they're for, but I can't see myself breaking them down regardless unless they make it worth it.
>>56954827No clue honestly. I didn't bother much with getting crown rares.
>>56954833I never claimed Venu is supper offensive, just thick as fuck, especially with all the healing/sustain. If you do near-max 1 turn healing (2 Pots + Butterfree + Erika + Bloom = 140HP), you can even survive two full crab hits, but that's exponentially less likely, that's for sure.
I accidental l learned you can go to the next card by sliding on the description at the bottom left and right. I always thought it was weird you couldn't do it because I tried to slide the image of the card. This app is peak Japanese obtuse design.
>>56954827idk how true it is, early NZ players can chime in herebut apparently the gold cards were a last minute addition for global launch, for the whalesmaybe upcoming super rares are better. they did datamine a rarirty rarer than gold in the datamines too, rainbow. but this might also be a mis-translation like a bunch of the datamined stuff tho
>>56954800>>56954833KINGler
>>56954856>rainbowGay. The rarity above crown should be two crowns.
>>56954843You can build working decks with no EX.>Blaine>Marrowak+fucking whatever>water had a bunch of good stage 1 mons>Bisharp is good, Melmetal is not bad>Raichu, Zebstrika, Electrode>Weezing, Arbok, MukJust fucking make a deck. We can work something out with what you have bro.
>>56954843stage 1 haymaker decks will wreck meta slaves as long as you know what you're doing. Cards like farfetch'd or kangaskhan are good to slot into any deck. Personally I built a deck revolving around Sandslash and Primape and it's given me more wins than losses.
>>56954843Save your wonder pick stamina for the event that starts tonight, you'll have opportunities to get cards for the Blaine deck which is very effective without any ex Pokemon, and you'll have chances to get Arcanine ex too, which is strong but not meta defining
Are you guys saving up on pack hourglasses for the mini set?I'm not getting shit anymore, so I might do that.
>>56954866but I want to play mewtwohe's my favorite pokemon
>>56954843Are you rerolling efficiently? You should be opening around a dozen packs or so before each restart. The decision point is generally when you're forced to play the tutorial + battle section to progress on packs. That's when you slow down, so it's good to reroll just before then unless you have SOME good cards in which case you can push more and do the battle to see if you're willing to keep the account if you get more good cards. It only took me some hours doing this on launch to get the account I wanted.
>>56954873Keep pulling then.
>>56954864pride flags>>56954872yes, since a while ago
>>56954856God, I hope not. My 'tism is already tearing me apart wanting the crowns for completionist's sake while hating the art and that I doubt I'll even get any with my luck. If they put another rarity in, I'll just implode.
>>56954871It's not a good idea to go for those at all, just go for the free ones to build the blaine deck.
>>56954872Most of my pulls have been shit recently. I'm at 50 hourglasses so far and saving until next major update so I can get a headstart.
>>56954771you just reminded me, instead of selling those Erika cosmetics that literally no one bought, they should sell Lucario cosmetics and they could make bank. I'm f2p out of priniciple of not wasting money on gambling but I'd buy that.>>56954803>have only gotten normal articuno on 2 different accounts well fuck me I guess. >>56954818>is it worth itfor highly uncommon cards like gardevoir its reccomended, I would check the pull rates for greninja. If you're trying to put together a water type deck and you're missing one misty, I would say it's worth it.
>>56954879god i love pikachonk i wish they'd make this the main design again
>>56954872I have 120 reserved glasses I don't touch and I use the rest here and there for a pack.
>>56954879If I get any fucking rainbow rares in this game I'm going to melt them down. Those are infinitely uglier than the Crown rares.
>>56954856Crown rares were indeed not in the beta.Though that doesn't necessarily mean they were added 'for the whales'.But it is DeNA, so I wouldn't put it past them.
>>56954883I understand your point of view but I'm 12 Kanto Pokemon away from getting Mew now and Arcanine is one of the last ones I need so I will be trying for him. I also haven't pulled the regular rare Charizard yet so if I I'm able to get one of those too I'll be happy
I like the rainbow rares.
>>56954876I don't have any more free packs...
>>56954889Are the 3-diamond rarity cards varying in their pull rates? like gardevoir is more rare than other same-rarity cards in its booster?
>>569548724th booster pack will share a bunch of cards too, so even a 10 pull would clear up the missing cards quickly
>>56954879Lmao I hope we get rainbow rares.It'd be funny to see people pull a faggot version of a card they wanted and then have to play it like a homo.
>>56954912Nope, and all of this information is disclosed in the game under the "Offering Rates" section. If you're ever curious you can see the exact pull rates of any card
>>56954872what's the mini set?
>>56954874I was doing that but it's just so fucking slow and the rates are so shitI don't know how I'm supposed to get 2 ex's I want AND all the other cards I need
>>56954914Yeah, the 4th booster is technically part of the current set right?Meaning it'll have the same pool of 'Global' cards?
Will they do stadium cards?
>>56954665>NahActually yes. You just demonstrated this quality with the tournament metagame percentages.
>>56954856well, the last cups in challenges (for 10k versus wins for example) are rainbow so it might be legit
I finally got 2 pika shits. How are you even supposed to build electric? I just realized i have no zapdos
>>56954926As far as I know yeah, it's an addition to Genetic Apex unlike the promo cards
>>56954872I did a ~200 HG splurge a while back and the best card I got was a 2 star FA out of it, so I'm not really tempted to do another, will just save
>>56954930I think they should, perhaps if and when a 30 card format is introduced
>>56954872I've got 600 saved up, and i'd have 700 if i didn't do a 10 roll for fun
how do you unsubscribe from the premium pass shit
>>56954933Electric decks have other good options like Pincurchin, Electrode, Raichu, Magneton. and the Lt. Surge card
>>56954933You don't need it. An extra x-speed and some pincurchins are good enough.
>>56954933>Raichu/Magneton (optional Surge support but he's on the worse end of trainers)>Pincurchin para hax>Electrode (/Raichu)>the obvious Zap ex>Jolteon if you hate yourself
>>56954946Click the pass at the top of the screen next to your profile pic. Hit "Tap here to cancel subscription"
>>56954950jolteon is fine as a budge zapdos.
>>56954930with how condensed the format is, i doubt it
>>56954953can I subscribe for the free trial and then immediately cancel or do I have to wait
>>56954924Focus on like the central 2-4 cards required for the deck. For instance, if you're building Charizard, reroll until you get 2 Moltres EX and a Charizard EX. If you're building Pikachu, reroll until you get 2 Pikachu EX and a Zapdos EX. If you're building Mewtwo, that's more trouble since Gardevoir line is harder to pin down but you'd just do what you can there. The rest of the cards to comprise the deck will gradually come together.
>>56954933>I just realized i have no zapdosIf you don't have Zapdos EX don't even bother playing Pika.
>>56954955Jolteon itself isn't the issue, the problem is that you need an Eevee and that's at least one turn you can't fully ball out because you have a non-electric mon on your bench.
>>56954959You can immediately cancel and will retain the benefits for the full two weeks
>>56954912No, but some mons available at 3-diamond are more common than others by being available in higher slots. e.g. 3-diamond Gardevoir and 3-diamond Dragonite are equally common but you can also pull 1-star Dragonite, so Mewtwo packs contain Dragonite more often than Gardevoir
>>56954960the best I've gotten for Mewtwo is a single ex mewtwo on one account and two Gardevoirs on anotherthis is impossible
>>56954967Is the optimal time to redeem the free pass amongus yet?
>>56954971There's no time like the present
>>56954970>this is impossibleIf you can't triple/quad box your rerolls, you're wasting a lot of time. I got a double Mewtwo EX and double Gardevoir reroll within like an hour or two, but I still needed to buy 2 Ralts and 1 Kirilia. And the trainers.
I HATE COINFLIPSI HATE COINFLIPSI HATE COINFLIPSI HATE COINFLIPS
>>56954977what does this mean
>>56954981You just might not be the target demographic for a trading card game
>>56954984>download MuMu12 or something>create 3-4 devices>download the game on the 3-4 devices>open them up>sync the inputs>reroll 3-4 accounts simultaneously
Lmao thanks Giovanni
>>56954879https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Ni0pEh_hY
>>56954984box as in computermulti-box as in multiple computerhe's saying rerolling is a waste of time if you don't have several copies of the game running
>>56954981boohoo
>>56954999>>56954996how do I do this on Linux
>>56955000>000Three tails.
>>56954989I mean, yugioh is pretty devoid of coinflips and dice rolls. he just hates rng i guess
>>56955001>how do I>LinuxYou're the one that signed up for the "how do I do this?" operating system. Figure it out, big boy.
>>56954811Kingler is also subject to misty and doesn't give up 2 points. Still taking the snibbedy snap to dab
>>56955006my computer is a steam deck
>>56954997He said no Earth Badge for you today
>>56955010You can install windows on a Steam Deck
>>56955005you essentially roll dice everytime you draw a cardthe entire game is based around rng, "optimal" decklists just means the ones that play around rng the best
>>56954989stockholm syndrome: the postyou can have a tcg without having to place your faith in rng
>>56955005Lmao, is this a joke? Yugioh's entire meta revolves around if you flip heads or not
>>56955024Really? Can you tell me how that would work? Would we just agree not to shuffle our decks?
>>56955024>you can have a tcg without having to place your faith in rngNo.
>>56955026delete this, i thought i could escape my ptsd here
>>56955022not even counting the randomness of ladder matchups for digital cardgames specifically, where knowing when to use the right deck at the right hour of the day to get the best winrate is a skill in itself
>>56954955Raichu, zebstrika, and electrode are all better than jolteon
>2023+1>still can't create a card game where who goes first isn't a huge point of imbalance and contention
>>56955024Heart of the Cards, baybeee!
>>56955047kek
>>56955046What's sad is that they made it even worse than it already was irl by denying energy to whoever goes first. In a just world, BOTH players wouldn't be able to deal damage on their first turn but could do everything else. But that will never happen.
>>56953829why is gio grinning here?
>>56955046going first in a turn based game is always a huge advantage, card game or notthe only solutions for that are symmetrical turns with priority passing, but the only cardgames that did that bombed and died (because most people don't actually want good rulesets they want fast games where they don't have to think a lot)
>>56955030>>56955033you shuffle your decks but run cards that glue the deck together, ygo does this all the time with archetypes (and skills in duel links) and it gets easier with there only being 20 cards in tcgp so that you're not forced to run filler cards that can amount to a brick, hell tcgp already mandates by design that you open a basic so it's already on board to an extent with the kind of game design I'm talking about, the rampant coin flips are the most hazardous parts that destroy consistency
>>56954682>who's completion ? The dildo ? Mine ?Both>What if I cant cum from my ass ?You will. >>56954713Anon...
>>56955022fair enough
>>56955057please explain how that would not just make the first player have a huge advantage instead retardo
>>56955046>>56955057Just let the first turn player attach energy, but only to the bench
>>56955062>BothCan I trade that in for mewtwo only but it gets to pat me on the head afterwards and affectionately calling me a good boy?
>>56955069I don't like that just because if you don't draw a mon to bench it's a dead turn anyway
>>56955046Android: Netrunner
>>56955058This is all his fanfics and wet dreams realized. His most powerful creation and minion choking him, gazing at him with those "hatefuck" eyes? Mans is creaming right there.
>>56955060The consistency brought from Yugioh archetypes does reduce but not eliminate randomness. You can say you're in favor of reducing luck based elements from a tcg but you have to accept luck and rng are inherent aspects to any game with a shuffled deck or a flipped coin determining who goes first or second and thus ring can never be eliminated.
>>56955060you still have to draw those cards in yugioh retard, you're never removing rng from card games, it will always have some element of itYou just have to accept some games you won't draw that card you need or flip the heads you always want
>>56955080what on earth he's caressing Mew's chin this is weird.
>>56955067>letting both players get some setup going is bad>first player having a smaller advantage than second player has right now is bad>this fucking retard
How many times is the autist going to complain about rng and blame the game for it's spergouts before it just plays something else that has less rng?
>>56955089it would be an even bigger fucking advantage than second player has right now aka first attack and higher energy count vs only higher energy count you fucking double digit iq inbred
The starting player should flip a coin and either be allowed to attach an energy if they flip heads or be allowed to attack (if they can find a source of energy) if they flip tails.
>>56954022i wish I was a tentalced beast
>>56955085I never said anything about eliminating randomness to begin with, I said you can make it so you don't have to place your faith in rng, meaning you don't have to hope your moltres flips extract the heads to go ahead with your entire charizard strategyyou'd use something concrete instead of crossing your fingers for something to work
>>56953993for me its tentacruel and omastar, poison is a great way to disrupt decks because it tends to cause a ton of panic switches
>>56955088He's in an intimate, if threatening, embrace with the culmination of all his evil scheming and investments, the thing is full of hate as a fighting tool should and it's helpfully choking him out while threatening him. The only way this situation could be more sexually charged is if M2 actually had a stiffy.
>>56955086see >>56955106
The only way to remove luck from a tcg would be if both players played the same deck in the same card order with no shuffling and everything is always face up including hand and deck with simultaneous turns. Sounds like a shit game. Tic tac toe with extra steps.
>>56955092I think every card game player has to go through the stages of acceptance with the fact that the best deck building and strategies in the world will still have you losing in bad luck situations and that card games at the end of the day are kind of bullshit to not take too seriously, that the randomness is what makes them fun and engaging compared to something like chess which can be memorized and predicted by computers and autists.
>>56955096>lacks both reading comprehension AND basic understanding of game theoryWe're reaching levels of retard that shouldn't even be possible
>>56955122>doesnt understand shit>doesnt have an arguementmany such cases !
Is there an objectively worst/best type? Grass seems bad offensively, as most waters are weak to electric instead of grass, and half the ground types are fighting a who are weak to psychic. Steel also seems meh, and only beats a small subsect of purple cards while losing to the common fire
>>56955128Yeah I think steel is the worst type right now. No supporter card, a weakness to fire which is well represented by Charizard ex and Blaine decks, pretty rigid energy requirements on the limited pool of cards available (Melmetal only accepts one colorless energy) so you can't as easily integrate them with other types, and the ONLY Pokemon in the game right now with a steel weakness are Snom and Frosmoth.
>>56955096You realize that'd be the exact same as right now, only reversed, right? First player is on an energy deficit and second player gets to attack first (obviously depending on energy costs, but lets work with simple one energy examples).If neither get to attack their first turn, there's no energy deficit (except for who wins the coinflip attaches first but winning the coinflip should be a *good* thing in the first place) and they both get at least one turn of setup (less chance of a first hand brick/no bench death).A better solution to me would be letting first player attach but not hit (both get some advantage - energy surplus vs first attack) or neither get any energy (or both get energy but no attack) on their first turn for the above plus one turn of setup apiece.
>>56955127Humor me for a sec and expose your own ignorance. What does it mean to have an advantage?
>>56955128Steel is straight ass, it barely has any pokemon and the only one with something resembling an actual strategy is woefully less efficient and effective at making it happen compared to similair decks. We really need the next pack to add more steel types to make it a real archetype, it has no place in the meta at the moment. Hopefully they add a Jasmine card for additional support.
>>56955128Worst type right now is fairy
What's a good deck for venusaur? I dont' have eggs and pairing it with butterfree has been pretty underwhelming. I'm getting all my heals off but only slowing my doom. Should I be using liligant instead?
>>56954989There's like 60 coinflip cards in all of MTG and no one plays them
>>56955116The whole point of playing a TCG is about mitigating the effects of randomness.Like, that's what makes TCG's fun. Building a deck and devising a strategy that can win as consistently as possible DESPITE random factors.If someone doesn't like randomness in a TCG, they just straight up don't like TCGs in the first place.Those people should go play a board game or something, like chess or whatever.
>>56955139>and the ONLY Pokemon in the game right now with a steel weakness are Snom and Frosmoth.Clefairy/fable too, but that doesn't change the argument.
>>56955026whenever I see this thumbnail I always think this dude has giant sausage nipples
>>56955158butterfree
>>56955106There is nothing concrete about any strategy involving drawing random cards from a deck. You can only raise the consistency of decks, to the point they could reach Yugioh FTK levels of broken, and even then those decks can fail. You are placing your faith in end every time you draw a card
>>56955169DRAWMONSUTA CARDO
>>56955162Of I forgot about them, good catch. But yeah to add to my post if Steel gets a Jasmine supporter and Steelix ex, Forretress ex, or Scizor Ex they will be in much better shape
If you evolve from an EX, say Pikachu EX to Raichu, is the Raichu worth 2 points?
>>56955183Pikachu ex does not evolve into Raichu
>>56955077right now its always a dead turn
>>56955187Unless running Misty in which case the going first player can attack on turn 1. Turn 1 is also a great time to use red card
>>56955173This guy gets it
>>56955158This is what I've been using since finding a second Venu ex. I'm still not sure if I want to keep this as is or take out Gio for a second Pokeball but considering one ball has 2/3s chance of getting you the basic you didn't open with, I feel like this is better than the alternative.>Captcha: SMTXJHow do I even go about making an SMT-themed deck in this game?
>>56955214Actually, a second Pokéball or a Potion for even more sneaky healing, but I like having a bit more offense, personally.
>>56955214>How do I even go about making an SMT-themed deck in this game?Perhaps a Psychic type deck, Gengar and Hypno for example
>>56954490reset hasn't hit
>>56955214Wait for espeon
>>56954914>>56954926>4th boosterwhere does this come fromwe don't know the amount of boosters in the miniset
>>56955046Going first sucks in this game on purpose; other card games deal with it just fine, and for this game to have mishandled it so badly betrays the fact that it's on purpose.>>56955078I feel like Netrunner doesn't count, because it's asymmetrical. Netrunner is absolutely one of the better card games out there, but its solution isn't really applicable to 99% of card games because 99% of card games are symmetrical.
Zam and Fable deck is okay.If you can stall with fat pink lady, zam becomes an answer to pretty much everything.
>>56955214Arcanine ex dek. for pascal/cerberus
Liligant bad. 2 energy 50 damage is bad, the side effect is obviously good but its too slow to get going. I really wish this thing was better but it does such an awful job at buying time for venu to set up. Tree is so good purely for the 1 energy cost
reply to this post with features you want in the game NOW or your MOTHER will NOT DIE in her sleep
I want a fleshed out single player campaign like the gameboy games
I use your mom as a fleshlight lol
>>56955169it feels like you're running to hyperbole as your only means of pushing back, ygo's floor is much better than this game's without having to veer into ftk, you don't have to draw right every time to be concrete in duel links
>only have enough hourglasses to open 3 packs>want to save enough for a 10 roll>but it takes a whole month to save enough for them>but opening packs is the only content worth something in this excuse of a game
>>56955343>reply to this post with features you want in the game NOW1. better computer AI for playing decks2. be able to craft (but not use) decks that you don't have cards for and when you collect those cards, they're added to said decks.3. ability to actally search through the sets to see what cards are specifically in the packs (instead of that stupid slider bar on top of the packs)4. 6 hour wonder pick recharge5. in game event calendar
>>56955355we think there's event(s) coming soon and we're hoping there's incoming hourglasses.
Remove the basic in starting hand system and add real mulligan. If you don't draw a basic, you auto lose.
>>56955355lmao poor
NEW PATCH IN 4 HOURSDATAMINES IN 4 HOURS
>>56955363Yeah, a whooping 1 (one) hourglass per mission.
>>56955360#3 is already in the game from day one
>>56955355>too much of a brainlet to make decks>too much of a pussy to just play matchessounds like a skill issue
their plan is obviously to make more energy acceleration cards to balance the first/second disparity without making those cards too powerful otherwise you wouldnt be able to attack turn 1. the only thing about this game that feels unplanned so far is charizard being so fucking bad when its clearly supposed to be a powerful deck on the level of pikachu or mewtwo
>pika has WAY more tops AND 1st place finishes than mewtwo>dgayed's website lists mewtwo as a higher power level than pikaWhat's the deal here
just pulled this, fc in case anyone wants to try wonderpicking it7847323992600669
>>56955348I agree. I would actually pay $60 for a new game in that style
>>56955385>not rainbow borderPass.
>>56955380>#3 is already in the game from day oneI know about that but I'm more referring to a deck list ala the one you have for your collection. something where you can actually click on the card and see it. certainly something a little more user friendly.
>>56955382Duels are a waste of time and braindead as fuck, why should I even bother?
>>56955385my kingdom for an EX articuno
>>56955384>muh weekly tournamentsThat's the deal, that idiot has always been unreliable when it comes to card data.
>>56955383Just looking at Misty and Brock alone the disparity is huge, either he needs a buff or she needs a nerf because they are two completely different levels of effectiveness. That's not even getting into assessing the balance between cards like Gardevoir, Lilligant, and Magneton
>>56954770>water deck in le pikachu meta
>>56955392>don't want to play the gamewhy are you here? why do you have it installed?
>>56955391You can already filter the dex by pack, unless you mean see the art for the cards you are missing. You can already get all the other details of the card just by clicking the empty space.
>>56955272You're moving the goalpost. It is >a card game where who goes first isn't a huge point of imbalance and contention
>>56955402Because I want to open packs, you dumbshit.
It should not take 17 turns to summon Charizard in Beginner level matchmaking. Buff Charizard NOW.
>>56955409>You're moving the goalpost.I'm not the person who asked the question, I'm just commenting on the answer. There are other TCGs where going first or going second isn't as massively imbalanced as it is in this game, and Netrunner is not a standard card game.
>>56955392what are you gay, why would i convince you that you aren't a pussy bitch, how is that my problem brainlet?
>>56955400its a trading card game, some cards need to be bad and others need to be good. Misty isnt even being played half the time in the topping water decks because using your supporter for the turn on a coinflip is way fucking worse than sabrina or giovanni half the timebrock is underplayed for how good it is, onix/machamp is legit
>>56955389that's what I'm after too, but a new cards a new card
>>56955410>gacha addict mentalityso sad
>>56955413>I'm not the person who askedOh my bad.>I'm just commenting on the answer.It is fair commentary.
>>56955412>turn 2: moltres attaches 3 energy to charmander>turn 4: moltres attaches 3 energy to charmeleon>turn 6: moltres switches out charizard can attack for 200 damage 3 timesskill issue
>>56955412shit gets funny when you've only been attaching energy to charmander and you're up to 6 energy, no charmeleon in hand, and moltres still only has 1 energy.
>>56955427>It is fair commentary.Respect. You are right though.
What does 'shop ending soon' mean?
>>56955453meowth event ending and the new event will start. (probably)
>>56955420Brock being restricted to only work for Golem and Sonic makes no sense when Misty works on any water type. I agree with you the cards need to be unbalanced for the game to be interesting though
>>56955453meowth shop will end in 4 hours, black friday shop will be up in 4 hours
>>56953829Midnight right?
>>56955460>>56955455>>56955464November 22 - December 2: Black Friday EventNovember 22 - November 28: Magikarp and Gyarados EventNovember 22 - November 28: Fire-Type Mass Outbreak Rare Pick
I've been having so much fun playing against gardevoir/moltres/misty decks just by suddenly throwing jynx out there and having it be able to attack instantly on the turn it comes out, destroying all their plans in one fell swoop. The "are you fucking serious" is practically palpable.
>>56955453The event that shop's currency was for has already ended, they just kept the shop open for a while afterwards to give people a chance to make sure they spend it all.
>>56955413going first is plenty fine, people are all on slow decks or pika that wants first attack, a lot of evos and stage 2s mons, greninja, victrebell, beedrill, pidgeotto, etc, want first evolve. the entire goal i had for this deck was around wanting to go first>>56954389There's obvious tradeoffs that you can deckbuild around, people tweak out about meta this meta that instead of just making better decks, even bug aggro bro is doing better than yall
>>56955470>>569554644 hours and we get 3 new things to do!!Will there be new stuff in the gold shop as well? Then in 1 week the Venusaur event.
Let the record show I'm not a Gyaradoscel who needed a pity handout
>>56955460Do we know what the deals will look like?
>>56955494Based. Me too.
>>56955495The gold deals30 + 30 = 5 dollars75 + 39 = unknown250 + 110 = unknownMight have more, won't known until it's uphttps://ptcgp.raenonx.cc/en/shop/poke-gold/SH_CG_PG_001
>constantly lose matches>only comes to my flips...which 80% of the time are tails>can't pull any cards to make decks that don't rely on flips. I'm just so tired, bros.
>>56955500>$5 10 drawOh no, my wallet. It's empty.
>>56955443Don’t make me post bottom 2 card Charmeleon pics.
>>56955494Based.
>>56953931>>56953993It's pretty much impossible to get am omastar on field. Fossils and stage 2 pokemon have so much going against them and unfortunately Omastar is both.
Reminder that I said Meetwo was the best deck in the format before ever having played a match and I was ridiculed and called an armchair theorist who underestimates Pika because I've never played it, despite me literally having played TCGs at the highest level for over a decade. Next revelation will be that fossils are good in Mewtwo, though humorously, I think I'd play 1 fossil and 2 potion if I had to register a list right this second.Now I just need to *checks notes"... win a tournament? Fuck, that's gonna be hard bros. Lots of variance and not a ton of events from now until the new set. Don't worry friends, I expect Mewtwo to be close to unplayable, or at least very significantly weaker, if the new set brings with it 30 card decks. I'll make sure to tell you guys the best deck again from my comfy armchair if I think I know. Unfortunately, this situation like with Mewtwo where it's super clear that I've broken the format only happens once every blue moon in my TCG career. I doubt I'll ever have the edge I had 3 weeks ago in a game for a long time. I could have won $50 maybe
>>56954261Articuno normal laprasblastoise + ex lapras exvaporeon Kingler
>130 hp, 2 energy 90 move and 0 cost retreatKill starmie
Also, I wonder if I could organize a high-end tournament series for this game.The rules are you gotta buy in with paypal, Venmo, Cash App or crypto. $50 entry fee. I'll make some sort of proportional payout at different thresholds for entries, hopefully to top 8 at larger numbers of entries, and then I rake like 5% to make it not a total waste of time. Would anyone here be interested in such a thing?Also, I have been thinking about the concept of sideboarding in this game. Would registering a 5 card sideboard that can be swapped for cards in your maindeck game 2 and 3 be a good addition to this game?
>>56955543Pikachu Giovanni
>>56955543mew2
>>56954261I just hope Kingdra is actually good unlike Blastoise because Kingdra is one of my favorite all time mons.
>>56955544>anon tries to do what multiple websites already doI appreciate the effort, anon.
>>56954449>Omastar is strong enoughI hate how people say shit like this but don't even have the deck or play it.
>>56955544As long as you're trust worthy>Buy inthis is where you lose people
>>56955553Ooooo there are real tournaments somewhere? (Real as is, with actual entry fees) I never see any in articles about results. I just see free to enter 8+ round tournaments with 50-200 bucks up top
>>56955503Blaine event is coming so you'll actually have a decent deckOr reset if your account is that bricked
>>56955559Limitless has tons of them already.
>>56955555Quints of truth.I suppose I'd probably have to dox. It could also be one of those things where it has maybe 5-20 people at first but then payouts keep coming so more people come as I gain trust only to rug it all in the end kidding, of course
>>56955528Pikachu is the best deck based on the data seen here >>56954521. If you have any data that suggests otherwise, please share it.
>>56955544Does regular poke tcg have sideboard?it'd be kinda cool to sub for extra gio/sabrina or farfetched over Kang maybe
>>56954612>>56954579This seems really niggerish and gross over sight that will surely get fixed once someone becomes too visible after doing it. better to have it fixed earlier than later I guess
So there's both an Arcanine event like the Meowth event, and also a Venusaur event like the Lapras event?
Without buy ins, then you have the retarded shit now: yo, play a 1k person SWISS event cut to top 8 for 100 dollars 2 days lel. Its also unsustainable bc it requires the Twitch thot to get more in viewers than prize pool
Hello? Content?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NgBMmMu8AcNow you know.
>>56955576Yes but the Venusaur event starts next week. However different from the Lapras event, the Venusaur event has the cosmetic options that the Meowth event had (mat, sleeves, profile pic etc.)
>TCG player larp again
>>56955564Sorry for spoon feed request, but any of these shit hit like 10k+ prize pool?Should be trivial at 50 bucks with all the interest rn in the game. Even 20% of the size of the free ones would do it
>>56955571>Does regular poke tcg have sideboard?No, but on the old old WOTC days they allowed you to swap decks between days on multiple day events.
>>56955571Hellminus 1 card of consistency you could basiaclly swap in starmie/misty and weezing kogaEveryone suddenly sides in Ekans/ArbokActually that's a good question, how do colors work with a sideboard?
>>56955590>but any of these shit hit like 10k+ prize pool?None.https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET&format=all&platform=all&type=online&time=4weeks
>>56955570How about you data DEEZ NUTS
>>56955590Pretty sure most are no stakes rnThat's why dragonite and 18t articuno is even on the list lol
>>56955591Neat lore. Idk shit about Pokemon TCG. Collected them as a kid but didn't play cards for money until ygo
>>56955573Lol wow the streamer whore (pro player BTW this one time once upon a time) didn't think of basic shit? It's OK BC shes pretty. Seriously though he commentary suggests to me she is nowhere near good at Pokémon Pocket, which has to be simpler than the actual TCG
>pulled second Marowak exHow do I improve my luck stat to get those coinflips?
>>56955586But I don't want Venusaur accessories, I want Arcanine accessories. Nobody even likes Venusaur he's grass type. And Arcanine is a dog.
>>56955608Why are you so rude anon? No need to call people names.
>>56955604To be fair, the WOTC era was "all gas no brakes", both in regards of game meta and organization (or lack of) from WOTC's part.If you're interested, check out the Riptide Feraligatr/Fire Recharge Typhlosion decks from the Neo era (Gen 2) and how the tournaments were structured back then. It's an interesting read.
>>56955610Switch your motto to "I'm confident in flipping heads!" or whatever
>>56955573>This seems really niggerishHow do you figure?
>>56955610Stop being a Lancer.
>Got 4 thanks from battles>Zero shop ticketsAm I missing something here?
what are the black friday deals whalegods
>>56955604>>56955623Oh, and the mistranslated Slowking. That was fun.
>>56954874>>56954924I told you dumb asses that it's not worth it to reroll. You are better off picking from a single pack, while using sparking and wonder picks to nmake initial deck, while doing all of the missions and solo battles to get more packs. You literally could have multiple decks by now if you weren't constantly rerolling
>>56955624I did that and I can't recommend it. It makes you go first.
>>56955628You can only become a tranny 5 times per day.
>>56955629See: >>56955500
>>56955611A lot of people like Venusaur. Bulbasaur is my favorite Pokemon and is the favorite Pokemon of many, as are Ivysaur and Venusaur
>>56955637I didn't stutter. Fire dog > dumb grass frog. And don't kid yourself nobody likes Ivysaur.
>>56954962This unless you have raichu and surge maybe.>>56954966>>56954955>>56955044Jolteon is more dangerous than zapdos because it gets online a turn earlier than zap and with comparable damage. Downside is the low hp and eevee nerfing Pikachu ex bench damage.
>>56955619Hey, I acknowledged she's attractive.Makes the hottest MTG girls look like shit. I was told she was a professional Pokemon player who was good, but then I watched her stream and she had the depth of a puddle when critiquing matches. Literally "he just did X, he just did Y" all day. To be fair it's not easy to actively comment on games while they happening for a ton of hours, but for a pro it should be simple. Hell, I was posting commentary in here on messed up sequencing by the 2nd place guy w ball and professor. Some commentators don't like to point out mistakes during a match, but I think that's retarded. Maybe you have to he a big hug box for Pokemon pocket, but they're two grown men playing M2 decks as best they can. There's no reason they should get offended at someone pointing out mistakes. In fact, they should be happy bc then they'll get better
>>56955634Ah, that explains it. I'm assuming this includes getting thanks from shit like your showcase?
This guy goes in all my decks
>>56955643You clearly never played Super Smash Bros Brawl or Ultimate
>>56955623>>56955630Based OG lore anon. I'll check it out. Seems like the game could be great, but obviously lots of really fucking insane trainers were printed early on kek
>>56955651If only he had free retreat he would literally be perfect.
>>56955646All sources.
>>56955185>Pikachu ex does not evolve into Raichubut what if it did
>>56955651If you want to show your opponents you're a silly guy not concerned with winning you could just put a single Slowpoke in each of your decks
>>56955656I hope we get Porygon2 and Z soon
>>56955214>1 pokeball no potion
>>56955659Whoa...
>>56955554If I lose to it with my dragon deck does that count? Or would you accept nothing less than a Pika EX killer as "good enough"?
>>56955654>insane trainers were printed early onHaha, yeah... yeah....
>>569556612 maybe when we get johto focused sets. Z may take a while.
>>56955669>amogus oakwow kino..
>>56955631No idea why you replied to me. Rerolling is how I got an account of all the cards I cared for on Day 1. I've been better off.
>>56955652I have, and I like Squirtle and Charizard more. But it's ok I wasn't trying to start anything lol. Have an Ivysaur as a peace offering.
gust of wind doko
>>56955683*farts in your direction*
>oh your deck uses coin flips>well my deck uses my detailed thinking and planning for 84/85 seconds every turn.>oh you knocked out 2 Pokémon of mine and are gonna win the game next turn>time to close the game and cook some tendies I hope they understand why I have to think so hard about their coin flips.
>>56955544I would join something like this if the game improved, both in terms of battle system and in terms of card pool. I'm not throwing money away because I went 1st and got no Heads too many times.
>>56955669>red cardinto the trash it goes
>>56955669Counterpoint: bill, gust of wind, scoop up, pokemon breeder
>>56955544This but with the vpnx rule set.
>>56955608why don't you play her when she's on stream and show everyone how great you are
>>56955681kek, why is this poor ivysaur crosseyed?
>>56955681I accept your peace offering, have a Viridian City Arcanine and birds combo pack in return
>>56955626>How do you figure?Do you really need me to explain that? can you not figure that out for yourself?
>>56955703>Here's a peace offering>Doesn't actually offer anythingbaka..
>>56955703Forgot image
>>56955698Tell me about your special formats metagame? Always loved Pauper on MTGO
>>56955695>counterpointI don't think you understood my post, anon.
>>56955700Only if I get to take her on a date afterwards.>>56955698Blaine seems good. You lose nine-tails but can just play magmar and probably be alright. We need some more cards for this format tho.
>>56955668I would accept if you actually had the deck and played it. It's getting really irritating how everyone keeps giving worthless opinions when they don't act have experience piloting a given deck.
>like 70% of my pack pulls since launch have been from charizard>still 0 (ZERO) ninetales
>>56955702Let's pretend it's staring off at something in the distance. I probably didn't think about its eyes when I saved it lol.>>56955703>>56955707Thank you. Maybe one day he'll get a EX card that reflects his pseudo-pseudo legendary lore.
>>56955709vp/ anything:vp>/vp/‘s own meta (no coin flips of any kind, no ex, no Dragonite):vpnx>meta decks or high level play:vpmetaPauper pokemon sounds so fun actually, but Blaine would instantly be the best deck I imagine
>>56955709No coin flips (of any kind, paralysis, sleep, misty, kangasskahn, eggsexutor, etc), no ex cards no dragonite. (Dragonite is essentially a coin flip)It fixes the whole game and makes it way more fun.
>>56955702>grass players are slow it checks out
>>56955732>No coin flipsHow would that interact with Frosmoth?There's no coin flip on the attack, you just fall asleep. Would the coin flip to wake up count?
>>56955732>remove almost all abilities except for poison ensuring team rocket and blaine decks get to run rampant>this """fixes""" thingsI can't comprehend wanting to limit the game to basically only normal attacks without secondary effects. Is baby's first TCG too complicated for you?
>>56955732would you also ban blaine? he kind of jumps to the immediate best deck in such a format where if people run it you'd get to thinking 'oh this guy's being a meta asshole'
>>56955681>>56955702>>56955703It's the same guy that drew "Taillow with Airpods in".
>>56955645commentary isn't the same skill as playing the game. You fucking autistic retard.
>>56955728>>56955732Sorry. I was unclear. I understand the rules, but do we know what some of the best/most winning decks in this format are so far?Also, last 2 Mewtwo mirrors I played both had fossils. Fuqqqq people are figuring it out.To be fair, that Tricky Gym guy figured this out before even I did, which makes sense bc he's a pokemon pro who moved to Australia or whatever to play Pocket early kek. I should see what his other videos are about. I only saw the one about fossils some other anon posted yesterday (or was it 2 days ago)
>>56955751Color commentary is not.Strategic commentary is.But it's OK bbg, I'll take your out for a nice dinner and we can debate the benefits and liabilities of regular mewtwo and fossils.
>>56955707The legendary pokemon of Kanto.Moltres, the Legendary Bird of FireArticuno, the Legendary Bird of IceZapdos, the Legendary Bird of LightingAnd Arcanine was also there.
>>56955741No sleep>>56955744No I play mtg, coin flips in this game are out of control and kill the fun. >>56955746Maybe at some point other things can get banned, seems people think Blaine would be one of them, I haven’t played enough in the vpnx meta to figure it out. I did make a 2 minute vpnx water deck if any want wants to go as Blaine and see if you can beat type advantage, it’d be a good test.
>>56955707>arcanine but with mandibles and electric typeWhat did they mean by this?
>>56955741>Would the coin flip to wake up count?Yes. That's why paralysis is also out.
>>56955766>>56955762So you're banning all conditions except for poison. Gotcha.Trash idea.
>>56955760"Luke, did I ever tell you about the Legendary Pokémon Arcanine?"
>>56955760Nah zapdos is clearly leaf type just look at it, it's green
>>56955771No, because there are conditions like from Omastar that prevent attacking or Psyduck that prevent using trainer cards.Putting hypno in your back line and flipping coins for sleep 3 times a turn isn’t fun or fair, if you could switch them out, then maybe it’d be okay, but you essentially lose a turn, and I’ve been seeing more and more Hypnos in random decks already.
>>56955760it's a raikou
My biggest fear is the new boosters introduce Mega cancer
BTW guys, in my ex-proffesional nerd game player opinion, the next metagame shift will be Weezing Arbok placing higher, with at least 1 top 8 I think. We can also expect a tick up in Charizard decks, but they're not as favored vs Mewtwo as they think they are. If I wasn't allowed to play m2, I'd play Weezing Arbok for sure this weekend. No idea how to build the deck best, but I know that it is rough af as a m2 faggot no matter how they build it (except I never lose if they play pidgey but my sample size is like 3-5 only so my results don't mean much there)
>>56955783All the meta shit in this game your whining about hypno's? You'd shit your pants if you had to fight these status effects in the actual game.
I'm tired so tired of this faggot constantly sucking his own cock
OK guys I got a new formatRdpp (Reddit Pokemon Pocket) Every card must have the ability to flip a coin at some point. Everyone must play at least 2 ex pokemon.
>>56955651WOW I CAN SEE MY NEXT CARDis this useful?
>>56955790>tick up of charizard decksnah, if anything charizard stocks are going to drop in favor of arcanine EX decks with the new event happening next week.
>>56955705>Do you really need me to explain that?Yes. I do. That's why I asked. Stop hemming and hawing. Make your point, if you have a point to make.
>>56955790>plays mewtwo>thinks the only deck that can beat him because of type advantage is OPDark gets stomped by fighting and grass even, pikachu is a tossup.Running dark electric or dark water might be viable, water esp with misty, also I’ve been heavily experimenting with mienshao and heliolisk and golbat to try and make a multi-color meta killer deck, and I can say it’s almost there, with more cards multicolor dark will be the new meta, but not because of why you think.
>>56955800Arcanine is better in pika heavy metas and zard better in m2 heavy metas, no?Maybe I'm naive, but it doesn't look like access to cards is a big consideration to n these tournaments considering pika was most played for a long time with 4 ex cards.
>>56955790No one cares but your autism leaves you with the inability to recognize this so I'm asking you politely now to stop sharing your opinions this way. Don't preface every statement you make with some appeal to your own authority on the subject matter of children's trading card games as if you're the only one who posts here that is capable of rubbing two brain cells together.
the annoying part is that the meta is solved at allthere is no room for anyone to come up with some gigabrain innovative deck that splits a tourney wide open
>>56955783Para/Sleep/Confusion have been a staple of the TCG since the beginning. We just don't have a Full Heal card yet.If anything, ban moves/abilites that rely on coins to inflict those status, but don't ban the status itself.
>>56955778https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca8sejRrqP8
>>56955799Not really but I just like PorygonI just treat it more like a permanent item/trainer card in the bench
>>56955790>ex-professional tcg player>can't even read metagame percentage breakdowns correctly[x]
>>56955799It's useful if you have a shuffle effect.
>>56955792I don’t even know what you mean? Coin flips ruined paper Pokémon and have decided entire world championships. In the vgc they put limits on frozen and sleep because they’re Op, are you ignorant?vpnx is loved by all who try it, I do plan on funding a tournament for it at some point. I’d do more with it tonight but I’m waiting on the new stuff to release.
>>56955732>No coin flips (of any kind,Who goes first?
>>56955810new booster soon, new meta soon.
>>56955813kek
>>56955824>In the vgc they put limits on frozen and sleep because they’re OpNo they don't? Smogon does, but that's not VGC nor an official tournament.
>>56955805When did I say it was OP?If anything should be banned (nothing should) it should be Mewtwo or Pokeball).Note the above sentence I just shat out without thinking deeply, so is likely not super accurate.All I said was if I was playing a tournament this weekend, which unfortunately I cannot, and I couldn't play m2, I'd play weezing arbok because I expect like 40%+ m2 overall and 75%+ M2 in the 2nd half ofnthe tournament.
>>56955810Why are people even trying to make tournaments for this. It's deliberately designed to be extremely simple and basic as a quick diversion where you open a pack and have a 5 minute game while you're on the bus/train to work in the morning.
>>56955822i see the idea but that idea seems very gimmicky
>guy complaining about coinflips is a smogon fagit all makes sense. fanfiction meta is for goofs
>>56955835Human beings will compete over anything
>>56955835Its like the modern era's rule 34. If a game exists, there WILL be sweatlords that try and competitivize it
>>56955808That's fine. I post for myself, faggot.Also, I've had some great little talks over the weeks here with people who actually want to win. Its extremely faggy of me to keep saying "its me" but that seems less faggy than spinning up a trip. Besides, if I used a trip then I wouldn't be able to make you mad. Also some posts claimed to be me and weren't, which is fucking hilarious.
>>56955835>why are people gambling money on this RNG heavy gamegee anon, I dunno.
>>56955792NTA but the actual game has way better counterplay because you can actually play reactively, so you don't know what you're talking about. There's a Poison-type out on the opponent's side? I can switch in my Steel-type on their attack. There's a para flincher like Togekiss? Yeah THAT's especially shitty and could cheese a win but at least there are abilities, items, moves, and resistances that can better attempt to mitigate that lockdown way better than just letting things happen to you in TCGP.
>>56955811You completely misunderstand why we have made this meta if you think sleep and paralysis should be in it. I like pincurchin and wish he was in it, but it would be abysmal. Play omastar if you want to disable attacks, psyduck, gengar to disable support cards, more cards will come out that have different abilities. It’s a good format and lets you play lots of different decks.
>>56955835It was deliberately designed to have PVP too, dumbass. Talk about cherrypicking.
>>56955852I just don't understand why ban cards that have guaranteed effects.
>>56955810Yes, but everything will change if the next set brings 30 card decklists. I think only Pikachu will resemble itself once that happens.>>56955835Filtered by competitive trading card games after 30+ years of them being a phenomenon. >>56955819???? Wutchu talkin bout fren????
>>56955847I wasn't taking about poison, I was talking about >sleep>paralysis>evasionwhich can fuck over most decks if they get lucky enough. >itemsitems don't mean shit, most teams aren't packing fucking berries to deal with status effects when you could have actually useful items to deal more damage or save yourself from a OHKO
>>56955693oak and rockets trap would bring them down to 1 or even zero. not 3 like red card
>>56955854Nice reading comprehension, dumbass.
Pauper format would go hard, vpnx would be a bunch of decks you could play on ladder/rogue competitive, people shit talk the commons and uncommons but I'd argue pauper is about as hard as regular play
>>56955826Jej, we could just have a “goes second” tournament, where if you go first you forfeit, that would be fun.>>56955831Does smogon run video game championship ladders?>>56955832If pokeball and professor (card draw) would be banned it’s def change things up a bunch, maybe. What I’m saying is, koffing arbok is especially potent against mewtwo, so yes, it’s good against 1/3 of the meta, but some matchups it doesn’t do that well, pikachu it’s like 50/50, and I got stomped by any Venusaur deck that didn’t get screwed on the draw. Same with fighting decks, marowak and sandslash r8p it.Arbok/weezing with a splash of another color or two is nearly an “online” deck, it might be a thing once we get new cards.
>Jej
>>56955873>Does smogon run video game championship ladders?No. The Pokemon Company does.Whatever Smogon runs it's not at all related to VGC.
>>56953792sex with sabrina
>>56955871In addition to pauper format I think singleton has fun potential, but maybe with requirements for including stage 2 or 3 Pokemon so everyone doesn't just use the same basic Pokémon
>>56955859Ok and even for those things, there are intrinsic ways to direct a reactive counterplay effort, like switching in a Grass-type on a Spore user and an Electric-type on a Thunder Wave user. For evasion, you can resort to things like Taunt and Roar and non-accuracy check attacks and so on. The point is that the real game has many, many more components you can have in play at once to dip into like a tool box for the appropriate response. The same can't be said for TCGP.
>misty flips five coins on starmie first turn.guess I'll die
>>56955855Paralysis is never guaranteed (always a coin flip) because it’s an auto- no switch out- no attack- turn skipSleep is usually (always?) guaranteed because they get a coin flip at the beginning of their turn before it becomes an auto- no switch out- no attack- turn skip.That’s pretty much the same thing except you could potentially put sleep on and switch out, either way, they’re both absolutely horse shit and leave a huge advantage up to a coin flip. I like pincurchin and frosmoth too anon.
>>56955866Says the guy that conveniently left a major aspect of the game out while asking a retarded question.
>>56955885Well, then you'd have to ban poisoning an enemy that has 10 HP left, since they can't counterplay it.
>try to make a fun deck>get raped The power creep in this game makes it feel like pockets been out for 1 year. I wish we could chill and play with non ex stuff.
>>56955873I'd imagine pika is over 60% win rate over weezbok. Its a meta call though where if you can not lose the first like 3 or 4 rounds, you're gonna run into a ton of highly favorable matchups. In MTG I only played a deck that tried to prey on a metagame like this in one Pro Tour and I regretted it. I just always try to play what I think is strongest against the top x decks and not get too carried away. Other pros though have literally won Pro Tours off of just metagaming hard and getting their read on the metagame correct?
>>56955878Ok, but have you considered that the retards at smogon are universes less retarded than the Pokémon company? And that the Pokémon company has lost all legitimacy and authority over its own product, so if smogon bans freeze or sleep it’s a better example of why it should be banned than if the Pokémon company didn’t ban it?
I'm fucking arguing with a smogonfag.I though I'd be free from them on the TCG thread.My life is over, I'm out.
>>56955898>I realize I have nothing of value to say so I'll shut up now
>>56955887Keep working on that reading comprehension.
>>56955895I never played the Pokemon video games competitively, but my understanding is there's a shit ton of banned Pokemon and moves. Can you summarize what a completely unrestricted meta-game would look like? I think one of my friends into that scene said Wobuffet was like way way way too strong or something?I played the games growing up, of course, but never got into the high level comp scene. Is the issue that without bans it's too luck intensive or is it that only one team set is viable without bannings (or both obv).Teach me some anon-kun
>>56955904Maybe I shouldn't have posted this kek.Sounds like its a highly emotional conversation for you /vp/edos to have.
>>56955891You’re silly anon. Thanks for making me chuckle.>>56955893Yeah, that’s what I’ve been trying to do, including Mienshao gives you a slight edge over electric, heliolisk is kinda meh, I try swapping for Zapdos ex, which is good against moltres and articuno also. The trick might be to go fighting dark and run heliolisk?The main problem you run into is consistency, a little more card draw would be good, deck gets crowded. Pic rel is what I was playing around with, did decent but I had to accept getting rekt by rng every so often.
>>56955895the TCG and the video games are two different things. whatever smogon does doesn't matter for pocket ot the TCG.
>>56955902I mean if you're going to hollowly use "reading comprehension" to mean "cope" you shouldn't bother typing more than you need to.
what 1-3 daimond deck can i use to beat the final missions for solo expert challenges?is weezing good?
>>56955724I just started opening Zard packs for the first time today :^)
>>56955927I did weezing and arbok for like half of them and was pretty successful
>>56955927I used Sandsash and Primeape for a lot of those
>>56955931For the type missions do I just scum until my opponent bricks?
>>56955910Wow, anon, this is a crazy deck. It looks really bad, but I'm proud of you for thinking outside the box and trying shit no one else in the world will do. People like that in MTG often do horribly for years until they absolutely break it and warp the format around their list.Godspeed
>>56955910what ht efak
>>56955904>>56955907Lel, I have not the best idea, but freeze was banned because it was only a 20% chance per own turn to unfreeze, they made a clause you could only freeze 1 mon per game. Sleep and freeze fully disable your mons and maybe for multiple turns, this game is worse because you can’t recall them, they are OP and based on a dice flip, it’s like playing any game and then basing a huge advantage on a dice flip, it’s just weird.In MtG most dice flip abilities are see as kinda “kooky” and “random”. That works.
>>56955933yeah for the type missions thats basically what it boiled down to for me.
>>56955929*punches you in the gut and opens fist to ki blast you*I actually did just get a double Ninetales in my WP feed but since the new event starts tomorrow I ignored it
>>56955952>*punches you in the gut and opens fist to ki blast you*KEK
>>56955936That was the final iteration, which wasn’t the best version, but you get the idea. Was also experimenting with using misty or Brock as a source of water and fighting energy, but extra trainer cards made the deck crowded also.We’re so close.
Lol that Tricky Gym guy literally recommended the exact Mewtwo list I first built, except he had 2 gio and no red card. That guys gotta be legit. Idk what his results are but he both looks and sounds like a pro Pokemon player and he says things that are obviously true, but yet others don't believe like "you want fossils in Mewtwo" and "don't play more than 4 basics".A man after my heart. (No homo)
Stop pretending to be me.
>>56955936The OTHER thing that made this deck happen was the draw RNG, I noticed it kept giving me 2 weezing game after game, so I took it out, and it wouldn’t ever give me an arbok, so I put an extra one in, I think this deck was my best attempt at rng manip where every card it gave me would have to be “something”
>>56955892i just find the coin combat tiring
>>56955969While I hear you, it's also very difficult to get a large enough sample for something like that. Turn 1 stuff is easy to do math for, but harder a stuff like that like.
>>56955840Any Game People Like Will Be Taken Over By People Who Optimize The Fun Out Of It
Who's gonna bake?I refuse to because I'm lazy
>>56955966I was sold when he paired Gardevoir with Mewtwo. A true renaissance man like that could claim any bussy he wanted, mine included (no homo, just keeping it professional of course)
>>56955966tricky gym looks and sound like a pro player because he is a competitive TCG player. I believe hes been in top 8 of regionals before.
>>56955984Cope and seethe faggot.Fossils are rly good in m2.Regular mewtwo is bad.And we arrived at these lists pretty certainly from mostly theory too, which is a sign of someone who knows what they're doing instead of the copypasta fags
>>56955983I would like to bake it as /tcgp/ but I feel like I'm going to get yelled at, should I do it anyway?
>>56955993Do it
Im cool with vpnx banning sleep since it's meant to be more casual, but essentially you're coin flipping for extra dmg on a mon like this uncommon boy, but over several turns. Hypno you can't really interact with unless sabrina, but pinchkurin you can set up a mon to revenge kill it pretty easily if you have a decent deck, or at worst plan to trade one and a half pokemon for the status dealer, who will have less dmg to compensate for its effect. If it's on the board you can deal with it, and you have full knowledge that's its coming too, if your deck can't kill it, it's just trash
As an ex-professional trading card game player I have to keep it a buck one hundred emoji with you guys. Sometimes the losers would have to get under the table and suck the winner's dick. And full disclosure, it's very rare to go through a tournament undefeated.
>>56955993Straight up you should bake it as /ppg/ to piss off the schizophrenic leak thread dude lel But idk, mods might not like it? Idk if they care about those things.
>>56955998I'm also an ex-professional trading card game player. My lifetime winnings are in the six figures, and I can attest to the fact that what this anon's saying is 100% accurate. Sometimes, if you lose really bad to someone, they make you walk around the venue until you see a buttcrack, then you have to swipe it and lick the sweat off. It's not that bad.
>>56955998heah this is why TPCI made seperate age groups for their tourneys. so the adults weren't sucking off kids
>>56956007>>56956007>>56956007
>>56955991Next you will discover other tech we knew over two weeks ago, like putting Jynx or Meowth in Mewtwo, and you will be very proud of yourself
>>56955998The part you're forgetting is that many players are too obese to get under the table and then you get to plap their ass
>>56956012I'm not that guy, but Meowth in Mewtwo is dogshit. You are right that he's going to keep posting YouTube video shit and sucking himself off about it though.
>>56956012But those pieces of tech are bad?Meowth literally has an overall lower chance of m2 kek.
>>56955663I'm experimenting with 1 ball; not sure if I'll keep it. As for Potion, I'm actually doing alright without it. This deck isn't the omega stall-y Butterfree deck, so Potion would take a bit too much tempo away from, say, a Sabrina or an Gio KO. Nothing wrong with the Free-Saur sustain deck, but that's not what I want to play.
>>56955548That's still only 120, anon.
>>56956024>>56956025Second place deck from yesterday with two Meowths. Try it before you speak
>>56956074>Try it before you speakI tried it. That's why I'm speaking. Meowth just steals an energy from Mewtwo, and the goal of the Mewtwo deck is to put energy on Mewtwo every turn.
>>56956080Meowth gets Gardevoir pieces faster, which gets energy on Mewtwo faster. mind blowing I know
>>56955865How is oak bringing them to one?
>>56956087I know you love shitposting and that every post you make is a shitpost, but Meowth is not good in Mewtwo. He's just not. Why don't (You) try it out?
>>56955643>>56955611Sorry broseph, Bulba/Venu are actually my favorite mons and I am stoked about the new Venu stuff. I'm still not sure I'll break my sacred F2P vow, but if there was one thing that'd do it, it'd be that.
>>56956097How do explain the tournament results? Just a fluke? Also you never even argued why Jynx would be bad tech, which also isn't true. You're just being a contrarian when there's literal tournament winning decks using Meowth and or Jynx
>>56956121>How do explain the tournament results?Mewtwo is really good. >Also you never even argued why Jynx would be bad tech, which also isn't true. I didn't say this. This is me >>56956024>You're just being a contrarian when there's literal tournament winning decks using Meowth I'm not being contrarian. Mewtwo is good. Meowth is not good. I used Meowth in the first Mewtwo deck I ever built, played it for my first 25 wins, took it out, and liked the deck way more. There were so many games where I started with Meowth instead of Ralts or Mewtwo, put an energy on Meowth (no other basics and/or trying to find Gardevoir pieces) only to lose the match because I was 1 energy too slow.
>>56955757you are a fucking retard and I sincerely doubt you'd be able to cast anything in front of hundreds of people.Autistic retards always assume public speaking is easy but can't even talk to one girl.
>>56956140I'll consneed here because I'm tired of arguing with you and you're being pretty respectful. Your premise is logical, if the deck works better for you without Meowth so be it. I know I've played the deck a lot with many permutations and have been in situations where I did and did not want Meowth or Jynx in the deck, I've had success with them and with just the vanilla deck. I've playtested enough to say that Jynx is excellent in a Mewtwo mirror match when both you and your opponent are playing chicken with Mewtwo on your bench, and Meowth has been a lifesaver just as a Sabrina target like the way fossil would function, and for draw power in slow starting matches. I respect your opinion so let's just go to the new thread already.
>>56955904ubers
>>56956175I don't know how I feel about Jynx because I didn't test it a bunch, but I did not hate having a Jynx. I did hate having a Meowth. I respect your opinion as well because you're also being reasonable, and I'm also not whoever you were talking to about Jynx.
I bought the Black friday packs and got 2 FA Brocks
