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Oshioki Edition

>Livestream link (Fridays @ 9:55 AM UTC):
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>Latest episode:
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Next episode:
>November 29th: PM2023 075 - The Future We've Been Entrusted, the Shine of This World

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Thoughts on Amethio's girlfriend?
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Did this gigantic rakurium cluster kill Lucius?
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>>56963119
Holy shit!

I want to sniff it with my Umbreon!

And we will wake up the next day in the forest next to some nekkid little girl and wonder what dafuq happened!

Yeaaaaah!
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>>56963129
Shit, who left the company bar unattended? Spinel chugged an entire bottle of whisky again!
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https://nyaa.si/view/1902925
Subs are out. Don't forget to seed your torrent
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>>56963176
Thanks
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>>56963176
Thank you, anon.
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>AmeLiko might be blood relative
On one hand, incest W.
On the other hand, Liko can call him uncle lmao
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>>56963119
It could be possible.
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>>56963119
Shiny Doggie must've blasted it to bits
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Iris won
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>OH god, Liko will make another shrine alongside Alex's.
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>>56963197
If Rystal is Gibeon's sister, that means Diana and Amethio are literally cousins. Kek this is so fucked up.
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>>56963218
I find it funny that the Likonime is potentially the result of a guy breaking the bro code.
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>>56963119
That place must be a crack hotspot.
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>>56963224
>Likonime is potentially the result of a guy breaking the bro code.
That's kinda messed up if that's the case.
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>>56963218
Second cousins, correct.
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Way too many reveals on this week's episode, no?
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>>56963267
Many are saying that.
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> Three regions third legendary pokémon monopolize by a single family.
> After the anime insist them as forces of nature too strong for a human to own.
Pokémon 2023 has the most garbage writing out of all the past pokemon anime series.
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>>56963119
>Did this gigantic rakurium cluster kill Lucius?
Maybe, or one of their own Pokemon went nuts from the pink mist and accidentally blasted him to bits.
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>>56963109
She should show up again soon
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>>56963224
>I find it funny that the Likonime is potentially the result of a guy breaking the bro code.
Agreed. That would additionally leave Liko in a position where she will watch her steps to not accidentally replicate that mistake.
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>>56963176
Thx
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>>56963119
Nah, Lucius tanked that
>>56963176
Thanks, was waiting for that one
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Ash x Dawn
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>>56963129
Kek
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>>56963197
>Liko can call him uncle lmao
Uncle Amethio. That's one way to send him into a frenzy.
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>>56963129
>>56963166
>Tfw I can make drug shitposts
God I love Liko's show.
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>>56963218
Gibeon has a funny sense of humor for sending family members at each other.
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https://x.com/omoi_moyora_nai/status/1860131216823120250

Do you agree?
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>>56963119
That or Gibeon did it.
>>56963197
Second cousins isn't as bad. In the 3d era of FE you can pair up first cousins. (And the 2nd gen unit from it is actually profiting of it statswise lol.)
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>>56963267

In-universe, yes. But for the audience, I'm not sure if they revealed much that we didn't already assume or speculate. I am curious if the next flashback will give us the full picture, or leave out some details. Like the purpose of Rakurium.

It would be wild if they explained every single remaining mystery in the next episode.
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>>56963375
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https://x.com/mayona1poke/status/1860156307862683989
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>>56963386
I think next week's episode will cover Lucius's fate which was left unattended since Lapras's flashback. The effects of Rakurium seem to be natively set Pokemon into a aggressive state and Spinel didn't had to mess around with it to get those results, he just wanted to see the effects of it first hand for future usage.
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>>56963176
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>>56963392
cute
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>>56963393
>The effects of Rakurium seem to be natively set Pokemon into a aggressive state
If that's true and Rakua is covered in that pink most from Rakurium then it's fucked.
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>>56963415
hhmmmm
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>>56963415
idk anon he doesn't even affected by it.
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After having to deal with the absolute fucking autism of imaginationfags, every time they beat another hammer into their coffin I experience the most potent euphoria. FUCK ALL OF YOU I WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING
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so, to summarize our possibilities:

1) lucius fucked gibeon's sister
2) lucius fucked gibeon's love interest
3) lystal fucked gibeon's love interest

or

4) gibeon is asexual/aromantic
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>>56963485
Option one please.
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>>56963485
I fucked them all
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>>56963415
Pokémon have been recently adding more NTR in their franchise lately, ingame with Ogerpon, now this..
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>>56963204
Based.
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>Lucius is Liko's great-great-grandfather
>Gibeon is Amethio's grandfather
How the fuck did Gibeon skip two generations? Both him and his son must've been in their 50s when they fathered their sons. Is Gibeon somehow really ~120 years old or is there some sort of permanent time displacement involved?
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>>56963753
Forgot pic
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I no longer watch.
Good bye.
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>>56963781
I'll see you again when they feature her a second time in the DLC skewl.
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>>56963485
1, 2 and 3 at the same time.
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>>56963753
Either he's bullshitting about being the grandfather, or the time displacement section is on point.
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>>56963794
Poor man just wanted an incestuous bisexual threesome...
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>>56963415
Threesome scenes when?
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>>56963817
Oh man, I should draw that...
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>>56963839
I kek'd
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my forehead is augmented
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Call an ambulance...
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because animalfags are dropping like flies
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>>56963105
Sango's cute smelly stuffy stinky fermented feet!
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they might be dead already
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Turtle nomming on Liko's donut was cute. You could hear it if you were paying attention.
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>>56963847
>Prickly skin
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>>56963843
My sides are in orbit
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>>56963865
That little shit only does what it wants.
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>>56963883
fuck it, here's a webm
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>>56963894
Amazing
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where is kieran
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Yoink
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>>56963601
Kieran honestly had it coming.
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SOVL
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>>56964080
Mind blown
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>>56963894
Literally got its ass kicked kek
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>>56963415
Is this real?
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>>56963976
Who?
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>>56963415
>Gibeon's backstory is all about what happened between him and Lucius
>not a single mention of Rystal, not in the leak documents
>Gibeon himself is still obsessed with Lucius, not with Rystal, even after 100 years
Starting to think they really DID mean to write him as having feelings for Lucius without explicitly mentioning it. I mean if he's mad that Lucius ended up with Rystal cause he was interested in Rystal himself, surely his hatred would've gone towards her (as well), right?
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>>56964096
I'm sorry
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>>56964149
>not *even in the leak documents
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>>56964102

Nah, just a funny edit. They'd never show adults kissing in a children's anime.
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>>56964150
FUCKING KEK'D
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>>56964149
It's classic Japanese admiration autism. You see it all the time in shonen. We still don't know why he is angry at Lucius. Perhaps he wanted to be him or Lucius did something that broke his spirit
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>>56964080
Garbage fanfiction .
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>>56964214
>Perhaps he wanted to be him or Lucius did something that broke his spirit
I'd think that it's about the Rakurium or about what he did that made him and Rystal panic.
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>>56964191
10/10 edit
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>>56964214
>It's classic Japanese admiration autism. You see it all the time in shonen.
Yeah, just like thinly veiled homoerotism.
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>>56964288
I thought Liko already knew that Lucius is her ancestor?? Is she fucking stupid? Why else did she think his shit was in her grandma's childhood home?
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>>56964288
Galarian Moltres is the one doing the dramatic effect speedlines btw
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>>56964359
Gmoltres is the spectactle
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>>56964344

Diana didn't know either.

It's currently a weird plot hole because how did Diana not know, but people are assuming Diana's mom died before she could tell her anything about Lucius. Still weird though.
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>>56964439
Maybe if Lucius is thought dead they don't want anyone pursuing Rakua because of danger caused by Rakurium, so they decided to not inform Diana/Lucca/Liko - but then again Alex wrote a book so who knows
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>>56963414
>If that's true and Rakua is covered in that pink most from Rakurium then it's fucked.
That's the gist. Rakua either at one point was a paradise but fell to some dark shit or it was a deathtrap from the start.
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>>56964439
That's ridiculous. Every single viewer knew, how did they not figure this out? Not even mentioning Lucius looks like Liko after 3 years of HRT.
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>>56964450
I think they wanted to remember Lucius's character, so Alex was only getting a hold on stuff vaguely summarizing Lucius and what he did, he wrote a book for children about it.

But you have a good point in the "who knows" part. I'll just wait until next week since Rystal seemingly is gonna talk about it anyway.
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Ending Satoshi's journey was a mistake.
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>>56964493
Many have said that.
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>>56964450

This would maybe make sense. If Lystal decided to put away all the Lucius/Rakua stuff behind her, for the protection of her family, that would maybe explain why Diana's mom/Diana had no idea about it.

>>56964493

Ew. Even with all of HZ's problems, ending Ash's journey was a necessary evil to allow anipoke to actually try for once. The door has been opened, and maybe the anime after HZ can try to improve on HZ's formula.
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>>56964501
>If Lystal decided to put away all the Lucius/Rakua stuff behind her, for the protection of her family, that would maybe explain why Diana's mom/Diana had no idea about it.
It's probably not even a pretty story to begin with even if she has told them about their fate. I mean how would you tell your family that one of them got killed over the thing that brought them together and how one of their friend went missing or rogue or whatever else has happened afterwards? If she thought she could take it to the grave then she would take it.
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>>56963850
>>56963852
>>56963858
Animalbros....
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>>56963753
I still think it was summoned by a Terapagos. It would explain why his chamber is hotboxed with the pink mist.
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>>56963481
Timetravelgods, we won
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>>56963385
>Second cousins isn't as bad.
>>56963385
>In the 3d era of FE you can pair up first cousins
Wtf, really?
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>>56963119
>Did this gigantic rakurium cluster kill Lucius?
Yes, he's in PokeHeaven
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>>56963176
Thank you anon
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>>56963415
LMAO
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>>56963485
>lucius fucked gibeon's sister
That would be so fucking cruel if it was without him getting told about it. Kinda want that to happen now
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>>56963197
>Liko can call him uncle
If they were to fight and she starts that, it would probably kill the atmosphere.
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>>56963418
>>56963424
>Why are they so close to each other?
My bro is unable to comprehend human affection, he probably felt more at home with Pokemon
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>>56963185
Got more Yellow?
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>>56963203
And into another world.
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So is the Friede twist still gonna happen or not?
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>>56964592
Honestly not sure. What was presented in the documents has a notable difference in tone to the finalized episodes that have aired. I mean the relationship of Liko and Lucca is notably different than what is described in the docs.
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>>56964592
Maybe
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>>56964080
>SOVL
Agreed,
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Liko in Pokeland when?
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>>56964592

Wouldn't make any sense. HZ has been pretty direct with its setup for the future and foreshadowing, but there's nothing indicating Friede would do anything shady except the leaked documents.
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>>56963105
>A Fierce Fight Against Entei! A Noble Roar of Flame!!
Interesting choice in the naming of the title.
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>>56964618
Yeah, plus there is also the stuff he did with Liko, Roy and Dot. Plus why he stab by proxy even Lucca in the back? There's also the part where Liko gets called in by Friede about what he has found out. He could've just not called and gotten away with it but that's not the case. That twist is probably scrapped.
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EP: 123
What!? Mischievous Hoopa!!!

>Liko and Roy are having a small adventure in the woods
>Suddenly, Hoopa appears, he seens to have an interest in Roy and Liko because of their encounters with Mystical and Rare Pokémon.
>He decides to prank Liko and Roy, he surprises Liko and Roy and use his rings on Liko and Roy.
>Liko and Roy are both half-warped.
>The rings are up to Liko and Roy's waist height, without them knowing, Hoopa uses its power to distort space and time, while Liko and Roy are worried trying to get out of Hoopa's rings on the other side of the clearing, their bodies are being fattened by Hoopa using his powers.
>They are unaware that they are being fattened up to extreme sizes but soon Hoopa will release them.

>Half of their bodies start getting fatter and heavier by the second
>Liko and Roy are unware of this situation
>The rings start getting up slowly until thei reach their faces, as the rings goes up, their arms, torso get fatter
>Hoopa laughs and wait for the big moment for a big surprise

>Hoopa finishes the warp and they are back to the forest but now they are completely useless ball of lards, unable to adventure and Pokébattle.
>Roy and Liko are completely embarassed and confused, but one thing for sure they are certain: They are very hungry.
>Hoopa leaves laughing at the two trainers.

>Their clothes are barely containing their girth and they are having trouble to walk back to the Brave Asagi
>As they walk they complain, feel hungry, sweat and feel totally weak, they need to take a rest for two minute of walking
>Soon night approaches and they start to hear the cries of night Pokemon who mighty be tempted to eat them due to their big meaty succulent bodies
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>Exhausted and only 1/2 way to the Brave Asagi, Roy and Liko decide to rest near a cave, they are so hungry, but they already ate their energy bars
>Even worse, it seens that Hoopas magic also blocked them of using their Pokéballs, they don't know if it's forever or just for a time...
>They complaing about being hungry, helpless, dirty from all the walking and being totally useless 300lbs Pokémon Trainers.
>They hear a cry of a certain...Pokémon?

>They suddenly are found by a pack of Pokemon Hunters who are puzzled by the weak obese Trainers, they easily steal their Pokémon.
>Roy and Liko tried to struggle only to hear insults about their size

>Roy and Liko spend the night crying about their stolen Pokemon and how horrible they are feeling, not only they have been insulted by the Pokemon Hunters but they are completely dirt and smelling bad from walking so much being 300lbs Pokémon Trainers
>Next morning, the duo decide to continue their journey back to the Brave Asagi, maybe reaching their friends they will help them
>Unaware to them, Hoopa is watching them

>Each step they take, Roy and Liko bodies jiggle, their fat shows as their shirts and shorts can't contain their girth
>Sweat pour from their round faces, exhausted, they keep going steady, but slowly
>Their bellies grumble as they want food that they don't have
>They feel pain from their feet to their head, a 300lbs body is not suited for such long walks, they moan in exhaustion

>Hoopa decides to give them a relief from their stress in his own way, the Pokemon smirks eagerly imagining the perfect scenario.
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>Liko and Roy moan, shout and laugh as their put more and more food in their mouths.
>Their hands are full of food crumbles, sauce and cake forsting.
>Driplets of food fall from their mouths, they don't care, the bliss of eating food is too much for them to hold back.
>Their faces get rounder, their arms plumpier and their bellies heavier and heavier.
>Food simply appears, probably a work of a Ghost Pokémon, but our Pokémon Trainers are too focused on eating to care.
>They have breaken the 400lbs mark a while ago, how bigger they can get?
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>>56963374
>Gibeon has a funny sense of humor for sending family members at each other.
Part of me is thinking that he deliberately send Amethio after Liko's family to begin with.
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>>56963218
And funny.
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>>56964592
It going to be the Roy twist.
Roy eventually feel insecure and realised he doesn't have special bloodline so Rayquaza will choose Liko. Hamber and Gideon will use this to manipulate him until he pulls a "Kieran" and join the Explorer.
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>>56964618
>there's nothing indicating Friede would do anything shady except the leaked documents.
That should've ended it. Find it weird to even assume that with all that is presented. >>56964628 is highlighting the contrast pretty well. Friede ain't gonna mess with Liko, except for rubbing his forgetfulness off on her.
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>>56963393
>The effects of Rakurium seem to be natively set Pokemon into a aggressive state and Spinel didn't had to mess around with it to get those results
So he just tried to see a use for it? That's definitely gonna end up being weaponized in the future.
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>>56964813
Yeah, would be amazing to Spinel flood a city or even the Paldea Region with that mist.
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>>56963166
Spinel faked being drunk so that he could get with smuggling the Rakurium
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>>56964080
The different phrasing at the beginning makes me think that he's talking to either Rystal or Gibeon, probably in an effort for them to open up.
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>>56964493
>>56964501
I got to say without Ash forcing a certain demographic of Pokémon to be casted, I get to see Pokémon I actually like for once and they're finally evolving as well.
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>>56963843
>>56963844
Arcanine didn't had a good day in that episode.
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>>56964618
I see, thanks.
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>>56963109
I want Anne to show up again.
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>>56963853
Onyx....
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Obese
Liko
Roy
Dot
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>>56964612
Soon
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>>56963166
>Spinel chugged an entire bottle of whisky again!
...is what Spinel want others to think
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>>56963839
>>56963843
>Women's Self-Defense Program
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>>56963224
As long as my AmeLiko folder grows, I'm set.
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>>56964897
Heh
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Where is Xavier-sama?
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>>56964899
Wanna translate but don't wanna get out of bed
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>>56964918
Take your time.
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>>56964150
Where is the webcam of Armarogue vs Ceruledge? Poketoon just had the best fight of the year and you didn't bother making a single webcam for it? Are you so scared of Poketoon overshadowing Pokémon Horizon that you refuse to make any wedcam of the best battle of this year?
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>>56964612
Maybe one day, anon.
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>>56964887
That's a predator
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>>56965000
Who the hell are you and why do you feel entitled? Have you tried being the change you want to see?
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>>56965020
Just ignore Gagnon, that homeless phonefag is obsessed with serieswarring.
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>>56965028
*Just ignore Fagmon
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>>56964628
>There's also the part where Liko gets called in by Friede about what he has found out. He could've just not called and gotten away with it but that's not the case. That twist is probably scrapped.
This. Too deep in to make sense.
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>>56965028
>yet another resident schizo on the board
Not surprised, but sad that they exist in such numbers. I just come to this general once every week or two if I have screens to share lol
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>>56964150
Thanks for that webm, saved.
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>>56963756
>Four generations to Liko doing anything for money
Too accurate.
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>>56965044
NTA but shit happens. I like the webm of Arcanine asskicking funny regardless. Stay that way, Anon.
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>>56963887
And that's ok. Because Terapagos following his own whims end up with the most devestating results.
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>>56964149
Eh, been there seen that before. Even if Rystal's name wasn't thought of at the time, there's also the whole aspect of Gibeon potentially being more obsessed with Pokemon, which probably plays a notable role with Rakurium. He saw potential in that stuff.
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Liko can't run away forever.
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>>56963865
>Leeches off his human servants
TurtleGOD
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>>56965051
>>56965072
Thanks anons.
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>>56965098
I killed this Dot, does this appease the Terapagos?
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LiWhore?
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>>56965086
I guess we'll see. Gibeon has been obsessed with whatever beef he has with Lucius for 100 years, so it's definitely something that runs very deep.
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>>56965106
Draw out the blood, then Terapagos shall judge your offering.
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>>56965121
I think it's that they both had the same goal/endgame in mind, just that the way they went over it as they traveled together was which created a tension between them. Depending on how long they tried to search for Rakua (Assuming they searched for it their whole lives), it was probably something that Lucius wanted to do was pissing Gibeon off.
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>>56965128
Blood?
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>>56965144
There is "being pissed off" and "holding a grudge for 100 years". But maybe it'll all make sense towards the end.
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>>56965086

Rystal is actually mentioned in the documents as Lucius's wife. Her and Lucius's name were unchanged. It's only Gibeon whose name was changed. Originally he was to be called Eldora (?). Lemme see if I can bring up her mentions.
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>Third Legendary Pokémon has become mere accessories to shill garbage OC.
Replacing Ash was a mistake.
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>>56965154
>There is "being pissed off" and "holding a grudge for 100 years".
Still lining into the aspect of being pissed off. But yeah, I'll await the moment it comes clear.
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>>56965218
Eldora sounds weirdly fancy.
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>>56965086
>He saw potential in that stuff.
I think that's the part that matters to the situation. They probably had an argument over how to use it. Or it extended to Rystal and Gibeon having the argument in place of Lucius's dissappearance.
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>>56965312
Probably the latter part.
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>>56964150
Arcaine tanked that big time. With a lot of asshurt.
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Found this in the document:
>VerneMTGメモ221215

From December, 2022.

Machine translation:

>New questions that have arisen with the addition of these characters (probably of the same nature as viewers) include:

>"Why was the necklace so treasured by the family, about which no accurate information has been passed down since Ristal died early (if Diana knew she was being targeted by someone, she would have prioritized the safety of her family and either given it away or hid it)"

>"The character relationships have become more complicated with the addition of these characters, but are there plans to explain this to viewers in an easy-to-understand way in the video?"

Seems like they ended up changing some things for this reason. In HZ, the pendant is hidden away rather than being some family treasure. Also I guess this means Lystal may have died young.
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>>56963843
>Missing red streaks across the face to change the context
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>>56965329
That's an interesting part. I think Rystal probably thought that with Terapagos falling dormant that Rakua would stay inaccessible to outsiders after what went down there. Which would explain the low amount of notes on what happened there, no need to write down instructions on how to potentially unleash that pink PokeCocaine.
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>>56965218
>>56965308
Eldora from El Dorado, I assume. Huh.
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>>56964592
It would be great if Friede BETRAYED Liko, but I don't see it happening. We should have known about his "brother" by now if they wanted to maintain that course.
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>>56965218

I made a slight error. They don't really mention Lystal by name in the early documents. Seems like only Lucius and Gibeon (originally Eldora) were named early, but she's exclusively referenced as Lucius's wife when they describe the backstory of Rakua and what happened.

>About the original Legend Group (tentative name) *This is just for reference, as it is still under consideration
>A group of adventurers from 100 years ago, centered around Lucius, Lucius' wife, and Eldora.

I guess it makes sense since this was never about her, but the two men.
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>>56965446
That's only fueling the fact that Gibeon only admired Lucius rather than the romantic notions.
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>>56964693
Poor Liko was having an aneurysm figuring out what Rystal was to her. Her INT is so low.
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>>56965480
Liko scaled dex and faith.
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>>56965480
Don't forget how long it took her to figure out that Dot is Gurumin. She's very dumb.
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When will Liko finally get her "comeuppance" (from behind)?
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Some fun details about Lucius and Gibeon, from February 2022 doc.

Gibeon
>Although he was not loved by Pokemon, he was good at interacting with people

Lucius
>Although he was well-liked by Pokemon, he was a free-spirited loner and was not very good at socializing with others.

I guess they meant Liko to inherit Lucius's qualities.
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>>56965523
So in a way both were meant to complimenting one another in a ying-yang manner.
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>>56963109
>>56965003
Ann is NOT cute.
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>>56965555
Lmao
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>>56965480
>>56965500
you are the retards here
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>>56965674
Not cute.
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>>56965702
Stop posting on 4chan Liko, you're too young!
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>>56965508
Roy will step up
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>>56965329
neat
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>>56965371
That's cool I guess.
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>>56963481
I still think the paradoxes are created simply going by the fact none of them are fossils. We aren't even sure if this Rystal is real or a recreation.
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>>56966229

Not gay, but I wanna get railed by Friede.
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>>56966261
Paradoxes are from alternate timelines.
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>>56963105
This is your PokeDoko guest of the day and ED singer. Maya Sugawara.

Say something nice about her.
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>>56966262
That's quite gay, anon.
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>>56966276
She's ok.
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>>56965523
> Ash is good at interacting with people and draw them toward him.
> Ash is well liked by pokemon.and capable of understanding them.

Ash > Lucius and Gibeon
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>>56965345
>Rystal probably thought that with Terapagos falling dormant that Rakua would stay inaccessible to outsiders after what went down there. Which would explain the low amount of notes on what happened there, no need to write down instructions on how to potentially unleash that pink PokeCocaine.
That's a good guess but I'd wait until next week for anything further than that
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>>56965480
Liko exclusively puts her stats into dexterity.
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>>56965144
>just that the way they went over it as they traveled together was which created a tension between them.
He wanted the pokecocaine
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>Rystal is Diana's grandmother
>Diana is Liko's grandmother
Next major character will be Lucius' grandmother.
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>>56966592
Liko's granddaughter when?
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They changed the color of Land's Wrath to match the games. It was green in XY season.
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>>56964906
Friede is not that orange.
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>>56964149
>>not a single mention of Rystal, not in the leak documents
Not by name, but IIRC there were mentions of "Lucius' wife".

>>56964439
>>56964450
>so they decided to not inform Diana/Lucca/Liko - but then again Alex wrote a book so who knows
The line of information broke before Diana; she figured out things from Lucius' journal, and then Alex wrote the book inspired in Diana's stories.
I guess the journal stops before actually reaching Rakua, At that point he and Rystal were probably not a couple yet (let alone parents), so there would be no mention of Layla to connect the dots.
Still it's weird if Layla never name dropped her parents to Diana, even if Lucius died/disappeared while she was still inside Rystal's womb. For some reason either Rystal or Layla never passed the information, maybe something went really wrong that they never wanted to talk about it, or couldn't.

Worth noting that Rystal gets tense at the mention of Rakua (picrel), hinting it's not a happy memory. At the point she was picked from the timeline, Terapagos is already in pendant form, and she's relieved to see Lucius' pokémon are fine.
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>>56963481
>After having to deal with the absolute fucking autism of imaginationfags, every time they beat another hammer into their coffin I experience the most potent euphoria.
Well this aged like milk after actually watching the episode, didn't it? It's the exact same thing we already see happen at the crystal pond which confirms imagination lol
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>>56966768
Everything was green in XY, looked like a fucking laser show.
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>>56964848
As much as I like HZ and welcome the end of the ashnime...

Pikachu and Charizard are still there
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History always repeats. Liko and Roy will end up together, and Dot will begin her villain arc some time soon.
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>>56964501
>Even with all of HZ's problems, ending Ash's journey was a necessary evil to allow anipoke to actually try for once
You call it trying? The characters still lacks compelling personality and motivation, their interactions are dull, there is no humor, no competition, no actual rival, no league arc , this series has practically nothing to look forward too and instead shoving a dumb lore that is basically wish fulfilment fanfic. At this point you behaving like those who still insist Yugioh 5ds was a good series and not a wish fulfillment fanfic about a self insert with zero expression.


At least past Ashnime had Ash catching new Pokémon, taking on new challenges, meeting new companion, facing off new rivals and shipping to keep me hook.
>>56964848
Pokémon 2023 still pandering Pikachu, Charizard and new starters.
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>>56966788
>For some reason either Rystal or Layla never passed the information, maybe something went really wrong that they never wanted to talk about it, or couldn't.
Hmm... Alternate timeline shenanigans perhaps...?
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Lucius and Liko being related is old news, and I've made peace with it, but man does it feel emblematic of Pokémon's worst writing choices. Inheritance stories, chosen one stories.. we've been getting too much of it.
>TrAsh is the chosen child of destiny in like half of the movies
>Gen 7 protagonist is chosen by Tapu Koko
>Gen 8 protagonist is sponsored by the fucking champion
>PLA protagonist is chosen by God
>Gen 9 protagonist receives a legendary immediately and is the object of the region's best trainer's constant admiration
>Liko is inheriting legendaries and destinies left and right
They're so fucking scared of keeping it simple. These stories don't escalate anymore, the protagonist is given immense status without having to overcome anything. It feels tailored to a generation of brats who need to be celebrated just for wiping their own ass. I'd celebrate Roy's relative simplicity by contrast, but he's just a passenger on this ride.
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>>56967005
HZ being lame doesn't make TrAsh good either. I'd rather watch HZ fail than watch another year of stagnant Ash winning battles and shouting onomatopoiea
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>>56967047
The sad thing is, in spite of Roy being my least favorite of this trio, his connection to this whole thing is much more compelling than Liko’s. By making her Lucious’ descendant, this whole thing just becomes everyone getting sucked into Liko’s family drama that only happens because he’s her ancestor. Take away that connection and her story never happens because she’d never get the pendant. With Roy though, he was inspired by Luscious’ story and got Rayquaza’s pokeball purely by chance wanted to follow in that path. Nothing about his bloodline is required to facilitate his story, it’s purely his choice. Essentially he’s making his destiny while Liko simply inherits hers
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>>56967125
This would be hot if it was a futa TBQHWY
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>>56967131
>received Rayquaza from grandpa
It's the same inheritance bullshit but Roy was never designed as the protagonist so he's seemingly not important for the grand conflict. I wonder if we already reached the point where Roy gets sidelined.
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>>56967288
His grandfather literally found it on the beach and gave it to him. He’s got nothing to do with Luscious’ story. To even try to say that’s remotely the same thing is being intentionally disingenuous
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>>56963197
>Liko can call him uncle lmao
So if he marries Anne then she can call her aunt
Neat
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>>56967288
>Roy was never designed as the protagonist
He’s literally been advertised as the duel protagonist since they announced the show. What are you talking about?
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>>56967131
Yeah, it's a shame. Pokemon really needs to reclaim the basic tenet that anyone from anywhere can go on a fun adventure because Pokémon are cool. There is inherent wonder and motivation in this world. I actually really like Liko, and I think a story where someone like her finds her own way is a great idea.

But Horizons has fundamentally failed Liko, because the core concept of her character, "taking her first step with Nyahoja", is a lie. Every meaningful decision she's made has been in reaction to things out of her control. She leapt off a building to escape Amethio, she joined with Friede because he was hired to bring her home, she's seeking the heroes because of the pendant that was left in her care by Diana. Liko may occasionally do cool things and demonstrate her growth, but she is an extremely passive protagonist who constantly defers to authority and lacks a strong sense of purpose. Even now it's hard to tell what it is she wants to do, exactly. I think it's kind of fucked up that Pokémon decided that the first female lead protagonist should be indecisive and have her journey dictated by a bunch of adults. This increased focus on Lucius pisses me off because I'm a day one Liko supporter and everything about Lucius just screams 'follow in my footsteps, Liko, emulate me.'

What a sad fucking misstep.
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>>56967495
>Even now it's hard to tell what it is she wants to do, exactly.
She wants to find Rakua?
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>>56963197
Incest always wins when Liko is involved
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>>56963481
Carlos you lost the moment the actual game showed the professor having a backstory that doesn't fit with ours and confirming the tera power takes stuff from other timelines not just the past and present. You lost so long ago you already forgot or what?
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>>56967506
And even that was only facilitated by Luscious being her ancestor. Without that, her story never happens
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>>56967558
Being her ancestor or not doesn't matter in how that story started. What's virtually the difference from her picking up the pendant at a flea market or finding it elsewhere? Also
>Luscious
I know Lucius is quite luscious and got that bice ass but lay off with the misspelling that only fuels the allegations.
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>>56967506
Of course, but that doesn't represent anything. It doesn't say anything about the kind of person Liko wants to be. When she gets there, she'll have successfully gone to the place that her great-great grandfather was. She'll have successfully imitated a dead man.

And then, more than likely, the series will end with Liko proclaiming that she wants to go on her OWN adventure. An adventure we will never see.
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>>56965312
>Rystal and Gibeon having the argument in place of Lucius's dissappearance.
Probably. The flashbacks have not shown Gibeon altogether so maybe he wasn't showing the signs of being a bad guy at the time. What happened in Rakua probably must've been big enough to send him nuts.
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>>56967495
We've already had 25+ years of that shit with Ash/Red/Every other spinoff lead. Variety is the spic of life. It's fine to play the "special bloodline" trope with a one-off series like Horizons. And I for one appreciate that we know far more about the protagonist's family than we ever did about Ash and his mythical father.

Also disagree with you that Liko's entire life was predetermined. She's only the first in five generations to even awaken Terapagos, let alone make any progress towards finding Rakua. She could've easily chosen not to follow the RVS and stay with her family in Paldea, and accomplished nothing like her mother and Layla. But she chose to go out in the world, train and and find her own path, just like every other protagonist.
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>>56967719
Coming to think of it, was it even Liko that woke Terapagos up? That little shit popped out at the beginning when a Psycho cut was heading at them, which is what was described about it by the official website defending itself in that state when it senses it's life is in danger. Diana probably didn't thought of hurling a move at it to get a response.
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>>56963109
>girlfriend
QRD?
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>>56967719
Ash sucked lol it's not like that was better, but Liko has not 'found her own path' at all, and I say this as someone who rooted for her. Her 'path' is retracing Lucius's footsteps and listening to Friede, or Diana, or whatever expositional character happens to show up to point her way. This story feels like Liko is getting to the bottom of something that has nothing to do with who she is.
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>>56967597
The fact that the pendant was literally an item that was kept in her family’s possession going back to him. At that point, the whole thing is a destiny that’s been handed to her. At least with it being her finding it it’s a matter of random circumstance rather than being forced on her by her bloodline
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>>56967787
I don't get your usage of the word bloodline. It doesn't really hold any weight with how it's shown. Diana didn't said:
LIKKKOOOOOOOOO TAKE THIS PENDANT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHY ITS WITHIN OUR FAMILY, YOU MUST DO OUR BLOODLINE PROUD
She gave it to Liko for some encouragement about facing her fears and that it MIGHT become important, that's it. She searched for years trying to figure out if Lucius was even real and by the time before she even gave the pendant to Liko, she stopped looking for answers. Aside from being jewelry at that point in time, there's not much weight behind it. Even Rystal in the latest episode seemed resigned to Terapagos only staying as a pendant, it probably wasn't expected to be in its walking form again.
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>>56967872
Because the entire story only happens because the damn thing was in their family in the first place. It doesn’t matter what Diana’s intentions were when giving it to her, their family’s legacy came for her because of that connection to Lucius. She didn’t choose to set out on a journey, it was forced on her because she had the pendant. Take away the connection to Lucius and she never gets the pendant and the story never happens. The problem is that the story they’re telling hinges on that blood connection
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>>56967917
>because the damn thing was in their family in the first place.
That's really a moot point with how Terapagos works. The story could've started in many other ways. Liko could've said no thanks when she arrived in Paldea and shove it on Lucca or even back on Diana. I wouldn't be so hung up on something that is more semantics altogether. It staying in the family was just the easy way to introduce the can of worms that is Lucius. Having it getting washed up on a shore like Fugs pokeball on Roy's home island could've been that too, or the explorers fucking up and having land into Liko's hands could've been that too.
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>>56967755
Nothing, it's just a cute joke. It relates to the theory that she's in league with the Explorers.
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>>56967982
Problem is that you’re talking in what ifs. Yes, it could have happened that way but it didn’t. The story that the writers crafted for this series that they wanted to tell was what happened in which her bloodline dictated that her entire story happened. And frankly, the things you suggested would have been more compelling since that’s a matter of random chance that leads to her journey as a trainer rather than a family destiny that came calling because of her connection to Lucius
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>>56967748
Eh, it probably awakened due to her "strong feelings".
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>>56967982
>>56968029
You're both right, in a way. One the one hand, making the mystery man a descendant of the main character, and having her retrace his steps to Rakua does indeed reinforce that her bloodline is "important" in a way.

On the other hand, making Lucius an unrelated stranger, Liko randomly finding the pendant off the ground, and having the aid of history nerds like Diana and Friede wouldn't fundamentally change the story in any meaningful way.
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>>56968029
Her bloodline dictated nothing, you're now just going in circles. The part where it's her supposed "family destiny" also has no weight either because it's not like what happened in Rakua or by Lucius cursed their nanes or something prophecy-tier wise where it's literally dictated. By now it's about stopping the explorers and Gibeon from getting their hands on Rakurium.

Liko got her pendant from her grandma, didn't knew that it was more than that until episode two and she wants to find out about it and what it entailed. That's it. I know it's blows for (you) that it's found within her family but getting upset about it now one and a half years later is redundant, the milk is spilt and that's something we have to live with. They're gonna reveal what happened at Rakua anyway and that could basically void both of our arguments anyway so I'll play the waiting game until then.
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>>56966788
>Worth noting that Rystal gets tense at the mention of Rakua (picrel), hinting it's not a happy memory.
So that settles it, Rakua got fucked up by something and that left some damage.
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>>56968159
>Rakua got fucked up by something and that left some damage.
Rakurium. Probably got nicknamed like that by Gibeon too
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>>56967763
>Her 'path' is retracing Lucius's footsteps

That doesn't have to be a bad thing per se, if the anime staff is willing to play it right.

Hints point to something going wrong at the end of Lucius' journey, and Liko has the opportunity to show some agency and do right whatever Lucius did wrong.
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>>56968048
Which feels like a dig at Diana considering she was a lifelong adventurer while Liko at the time of awakening it was a passive doormat that didn’t know what she wanted. Are they really trying to tell us that Diana never had such “strong feelings” in her entire journey?
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>>56968048
>Terapagos protects itself using its power to transform energy into hard crystals.
Nah the anime took the page out of the game.
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>>56968175
It's less that and more >>56968184
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>>56968138
And again, you are ignoring that this entire story only happened in the first place because of her family connection to Lucius. What they’re after might be stopping Gibeon but that is the effect. You can talk in circles as well all you like as to how it doesn’t matter but it doesn’t change the fact that this story is only occurring for them in the first place because of Liko’s lineage. Take that away and Liko just remains as a regular student at Indigo Academy because the Explorers never come after her for the pendant, Roy never meets Fuecoco and sets off with the Rising Volt Tacklers and the Rising Volt Tacklers go about their lives with whatever they were doing before the story. That connection with Lucius is literally the cause to their journey’s effect
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Do you think Liko finished that donut Terapagos bit into?
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>>56968252
And what's worse is that the "effect" is also so much about Lucius. Liko finding new Pokémon to be her own 'heroes' would have been a better way to set her apart... considering she only currently has one Pokemon of her own.
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Did...they genuinely think Lucius being Liko's ancestor was an actual twist? He literally just looks like a genderbent aged up version of her. Most just outright ASSUMED he was her great great grandpa the second we got a clear look at him. They should've removed the hair spike and blue accents at LEAST.
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Most likely the anime is going to be switching up protagonsts each Generation a la Precure, but what are the chances we get a Gen 10 anime with Liko, Roy and Dot but aged up, either with or without the rest of the explorers where they tackle some new adventure? They definitely have a lot more freedom in the kind of stories they can tell since they're no longer just having characters tackle Pokemon leagues.
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>>56968252
I am not "ignoring" anything, not my fault you are refusing the comprehension skills to understand that the story could started under different circumstances. You shouldn't let the idea of a single item only laying around in a instead of on the ground or in a flea market get to you that much because blood only affects something that much. Sure it started the gateway to Liko getting found but ultimately her lineage matters jackshit in the runtime when she isn't even using any of the things that were originating from Lucius. If she was using Arboliva or any of the six heroes in her fights then your argument would have some weight but she didn't use them. You can give a kid something you had from your great great grandparents and tell them to fulfill something but if they are gonna act or not is on them. And neither Diana was shoving her own ambitions on Liko nor was Liko asking for it.
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>>56968373
Probably very low but the idea of a timeskip was humored so there's that for future entries. Whether they will follow through with it in even this gen is another thing.
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>>56966879
>>56967005
Yes, but if Ash was still the protagonist, mons like Tinkaton and Hatterene wouldn't even have the chance to be cast mons for being too girly and not something Ash would use, it would been a bunch of Kanto mons(Again), the convergents of said Kanto mons, and mons like Dudunsparce and Flamigo will be the casts mons.
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>>56968373
>chances we get a Gen 10 anime with Liko, Roy and Dot but aged up, either with or without the rest of the explorers where they tackle some new adventure?
Like a 0.2% chance of it happening. Lili sure, maybe but the others depend on whether they're traveling with Liko after the runtime.
>>56966800
Lasershow was one way to summarise XY.
>>56968431
Can you please follow the filenames advice in the OP and ignore the schizoid in the second reply who still has to find employment to get off the street?
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>>56968470
Every AmeLiko image feels weird now knowing that they could potentially be distant cousins.
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>>56968296
No, Terapagos stole it.
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>>56968522
Cute
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>>56968382
And as I said before, yes it could have but we aren’t talking about what could have happened, we’re talking about what did. The writers could have had this story happen in a number of ways but they chose the path in which due to Lucius being her ancestor the very object that started this entire story was in her family’s possession and came into hers. This entire path is something that only became available to her because of that blood relation. She had no actual aspirations before this heirloom caused the Explorers to come after her. In the iteration of the story that the writers have made not what it could have been everything ties back to Liko’s relation to Lucius. While you may find that it’s just a minor detail to the series, I find that it becomes less compelling especially when she’s essentially just following the same basic path as her ancestors being tied to Rakua to the point that she’s even gathering his team to find the place and finish whatever conflict started between him and Gibeon. I find it more compelling for someone to find the path of a legend by chance rather than to have that path available to them because of their connection to said legend
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>>56963105
Liko looks like she needs our help. Should we help her /padt/?
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>>56968583
I just wanna say that you're right and the guy you're arguing with is about to drop a fat paragraph of nonsense. If Liko was a random who became enamored with the tale of Lucius it'd be a lot more endearing than just being the descendant child who finished the job
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>>56968470
Source?
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>>56963353
Ultra mega super duper dead ship
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>>56967063
>HZ being lame doesn't make TrAsh good either
The original Pokémon series is one of the most popular kids anime and Ash managed to carry this series without a magical bloodline which already makes him better. Your opinion doesn't mean a squat, its like listening to trolls complaining about Goku being a manchild on Dragonball thread.
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>>56969086

Yes, Ash has no special bloodline, and yet he's the epitome of "special protagonist".

>has magical Aura powers for no adequately explained reason
>unlocked a special Greninja transformation that nobody else has
>has a Pikachu that is special and different from other Pikachu
>idolized by everyone, even has a romantic interest for some reason
>the final series unironically allowed Ash to beat all Champions he faced with a team of freshly caught Pokemon, even though said Champions were previously presented as untouchable.

Ash is a shit character, buddy. He used to be interesting, once upon a time, but following Liko's story, a story of an underdog who is still losing battles, is infinitely more interesting than whatever Ash degenerated into it in later series. Thank fuck he's gone.
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>>56969113
>>has magical Aura powers for no adequately explained reason
Everyone has them and it didn't affect him as a person nor were they the reason he started his journey
>>unlocked a special Greninja transformation that nobody else has
That was more on Greninja than Ash and that was after a lot of development on both sides, Greninja's backstory was also shown
>>has a Pikachu that is special and different from other Pikachu
What the fuck are you talking about? That was mostly TRio cope and even then it took them years to reach their current level, that applies more to Friede's Pikachu than Ash
>>idolized by everyone, even has a romantic interest for some reason
Everyone treated him like shit in OS, Max thought of him as a shitter, nobody else knew him from before and it wasn't until they interacted with him that opinions formes about him, it might apply in XY but even then not everyone did
>>the final series unironically allowed Ash to beat all Champions he faced with a team of freshly caught Pokemon, even though said Champions were previously presented as untouchable.
Pikachu carried most of the fights and they trained, shocking I know.

Nice try tho
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>>56969191
>Everyone treated him like shit in OS, Max thought of him as a shitter, nobody else knew him from before and it wasn't until they interacted with him that opinions formes about him, it might apply in XY but even then not everyone did
Even Goh and Sophocles talk smack about Ash, Kiawe even lash out on Ash and one time tried to kill him for losing an Z-crystal.
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>>56968431
>Tinkaton and Hatterene wouldn't even have the chance to be cast mons for being too girly
Wrong again as he himself and his companions had girly pokemon. JN was the only series when his team heavily focus on Kanto. While other series, Ash used pokemon from the region he was travelling.
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>>56968431
Forgot to mention, that one Hatenna that Ash met and bonded with on MPM had more personality and better interactions with Ash than Liko and her Hatenna had in the entire series.
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>>56969191
You stepping in for a schizo who is automatically calling everyone who isn't immediately cocksucking his tantrums a troll is one thing but seriously?
That kid spewed the usual about not backing down in the lusamine arc and then suddenly a z stone catered specifically to him and Pikachu appeared out of nowhere with no explanation and immediately they knew how to use it on the spot. All that Cap has is a hat and that's it.

Or Lucario beating Garchomp, barely months after it hatched took down a Pokemon with years of combat experience. That you seriously defend this shit says enough.
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>>56969228
>Lucario beating Garchomp, barely months after
Where is the proof that it only been a month since Ash's Lucario hatched before battling Cynthia. Burnett was pregnant when Ash left Alola and she already had a baby when Ash returns which mean at least more than nine months has been passed.
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>>56969191

>Everyone has them and it didn't affect him as a person nor were they the reason he started his journey
He literally defeated Cynthia because he had aura powers. Lmfao.

>That was more on Greninja than Ash and that was after a lot of development on both sides, Greninja's backstory was also shown
That doesn't explain anything. This is just special boy treatment by giving Ash a magical transformation nobody else has. So special even Lysandra wanted Ash because he perceived him as special boy.

>What the fuck are you talking about? That was mostly TRio cope and even then it took them years to reach their current level, that applies more to Friede's Pikachu than Ash
That was most certainly not TRio cope. Anipoke continuously emphasizes how special Ash's Pikachu is, it's the writers who keep pointing it out. Use your brain, please.

>Everyone treated him like shit in OS, Max thought of him as a shitter, nobody else knew him from before and it wasn't until they interacted with him that opinions formes about him, it might apply in XY but even then not everyone did
Not really? Everyone immediately realized what a cool, special kid Ash is. XY even retconned Ash into being a gentle, sweet boy in Serena's backstory, it's very bad.

>Pikachu carried most of the fights and they trained, shocking I know.
Nice cope. If it weren't for Ash's aura powers and magical Lucario (who took down both Garchomp and Togekiss), he wouldn't have even reached the finals.

Nice cope though. Anipoke treated Ash as special protagonist and this treatment got more ridiculous the more time passed, showering with him unique powers, transformations and fanservice-tier Pokemon, all of which ended up benefitting him in his goals of becoming "the strongest trainer in the world". (shit tier writing)

Ash really just became an empty vessel and a self-insert for pathetic losers like yourself to project onto. It's kinda embarrassing really.
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>>56969228

Lucario beating Garchomp was some top tier fanfic writing.

You're telling me that a recently hatched eggmon, Riolu, was able to *somehow* level up to the point it could be on the same level as Cythia's veteran Garchomp? Managing to beat *both* Garchomp and Togekiss in one battle? Against a Garchomp previously portrayed a powerhouse menace?

It's so goddamn cringy, I can't believe Ash cucks watched the writers shit out this turd of a development and then devoured it like it was the most delicious thing in the world. Fucking awful.
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>>56969237
Nine months are nothing against years of experience or arguing in a evasive timeline where it's only moving forward when it's convenient also undermins the amount, thanks a lot for killing your argument fucking moron.
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>>56969228
>spewed the usual about not backing down in the lusamine arc and then suddenly a z stone catered specifically to him and Pikachu appeared out of nowhere with no explanation and immediately they knew how to use it on the spot.
That's not what happened, at all, the Tapus powered his Z-crystal before the fight because they are the Guardians and knew about the UBs, did you also miss the times he trained Z-moves as a whole? Episodes started showing that
>All that Cap has is a hat and that's it.
And no backstory to justify that level since you seem obssessed with that he's super strong just because like you were claiming Ash's Pikachu to be

>Or Lucario beating Garchomp, barely months after it hatched took down a Pokemon with years of combat experience.
Ah yes, I forgot experience is what matters and not the bond and skills of trainers, with said trainer having tons of experience too since he was a professional battler with a track record of beating gyms or that he didn't start beating E4 from the beginning and actually went from last place to first Even if off-screen

I don't give a shit about your drama or your series but lying? Famon can suck a dick but you're not any better, if we go by the rules you want to play then Liko and Roy should be even more weak but somehow can put a fight against muh legendary heroes even if they lose or against Diana who is like 50 or more years old having more "experience"

Oh, and them there's fucking Poppy who is a E4 despite being 9 years old
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>>56969239
Oh the Famon copycat, done samefagging?
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>>56969239
>He literally defeated Cynthia because he had aura powers
Aura power had nothing to do with Lucario using Reversal on Garchomp.

>That doesn't explain anything
It already did.
Ash's Greninja was one of the few Greninja with Battle Bond ability. Many trainers tried to train Froakie but failed to tame it until Ash caught it which proves that Ash earned Greninja.

>That was most certainly not TRio cope.
It was TRio's cope, they couldn't accept that their big plan got screwed by a 10 year old and his Pikachu so they deluded themselves into thinking that Ash's Pikachu was special.

>Anipoke continuously emphasizes how special Ash's Pikachu is, it
Nope since Ash's Pikachu was more normal who couldn't even beat Electrobuzz, need Raichu to have a weakness to lose to him & even jobbed to a freaking Eevee.

>Everyone immediately realized what a cool, special kid Ash is
Only in XY series which got mogged by Youkai Watch.
Characters in previous series saw Ash as a dumb rush kid who often screw himself and they called him out for it.

>If it weren't for Ash's aura powers and magical Lucario
Lucario wasn't even used against Steven while it jobbed to a Dragapult against Leon.
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Man, this guy is having a meltdown..
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>>56969256
I said more than nine months, it could very well be two & three years since Riolu hatched. You have no proof of how much time passed since Riolu hatched, evolved to Lucario and battle Cynthia.
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>>56969218
>>56969225
Name 10 girly mons that Ash alone owns
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>>56969259
Then explain how the fuck he and Pikachu how to do the poses. Seriously must be one fucking convenient power up that it teaches them the moves.
>since you seem obssessed with that he's super strong
Nothing in >>56969113 said anything about Cap at all. Obsessed
>I forgot experience is what matters and not the bond and skills of trainers
Your own skills only mean so much if the team used is actually on the same level.

Take your projection with lying and shove it up your ass.
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>>56969280
>Then explain how the fuck he and Pikachu how to do the poses.
Everybody in Alola knows how to make poses. Professor Kukui had a class on Z-move and their poses. Do you also miss the part where Tapu Koko teaching Ash the pose for Gigavolt Havoc?
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>>56969274
>I have no proof that no more than nine months have passed
>But it's your job suddenly to do it.
You're arguing with a timeline where everything except the baby stayed the same age. You're dumb for trying to shove the burden of responsibility onto others despite it beign your job to deliver concrete shit when it ultimately Lucario never had the experience, skills or circumstances to beat Garchomp.
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>>56969278
Ash like had only 44 pokemon.
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>>56969290
Explain how Pikachu and him knew how to do the pose for that one z crystal in the lusamine arc on the spot? You can't even do that simple thing.
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>>56969272
That's why the filename in the OP exists. The threads are actually usable when it's followed.
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>>56969292
How do you know only one month passed in a timeline where nobody ages? Lucario's never having skills, experience & circumstance to beat Garchomp? Have you even watched the freaking show? Ash has been training Riolu from the day it hatched and he train it more than Pikachu which ultimately made Pikachu jealous.
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>>56969300
He wasn't doing a pose, he simply high-five Pikachu.
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>>56969335
>How do you know only one month passed in a timeline where nobody ages?
I said months. Fuck off Fagmon, defending dogshit writing with braindead goalpost moving won't help your poor case.
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>>56969356
How do you it been barely months?
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>>56969419
>ESL
Concession accepted.
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611 days since anipoke was saved.
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Thank you based Chuuni Executive for ridding the anime of a mistake
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Ash x Dawn
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>>56968314
Yeah I'm baffled. The worst part is that Liko is SHOCKED by the reveal. Like not even "Oh, I see, that makes sense" which would already make me wonder how she didn't figure it out yet. But no, she even goes full "WAIT HOLD ON HOLD ON WHAAAAT???" which makes her honestly look like a goddamn retard. I already hated how long it took her to realize that Dot was Gurumin (which stopped being funny after like 3 episodes) but this is even worse. It makes her look annoyingly stupid.
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>>56963129
Lol
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>>56969677
Floragato is a dick.
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>>56969677
No wonder why she's evil type.
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OK I got it.
Lucius fucked Rystal and impregnated her.
Explorers got disbanded
Gideon is still salty.
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How come none in Liko's family has blonde hair?
Is Lucius's genes just that strong?
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>>56969741
Yeah
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>Been out for a week
>Anons are talking about how Liko can call Amethio uncle
What the hell did I miss
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>>56969777
Rystal's face got revealed, showing a few similarities with Amethio and Gibeon. Not confirmed if its the case but it's fueling discussions a bit.
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>>56969797
So this is how they sink the Amethio x Liko ship.
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>>56969797
I just finished the episode but she doesn't seem to have weird eyes like Gibeon, Hamber or Ametio. The only thing I can think of that might connect them is the naming after minerals, but that probably has more to do with Terapagos (inb4 another cool bloodline)
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>>56969813
You think that's gonna stop them?
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>>56969677
>>56964150
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>>56969822
The Team's cocksleeve
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>>56969826
It's so painful to watch
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> New merch reveal fully evolved Paldea starter with ace of Paldea Elite 4 and Champion.
Pokémon Legends Z-A still haven't reveal its release date and Gen 10 probably will come out on the November of 2026. I am started to feel Pokémon 2023 going to end very soon.
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>>56969841
It's gonna end with the gen 10 anime which will come with new protagonists and all the copes in world aren't gonna cure your asshurt, Fagmon. Get a job
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>>56969841
>Pokémon Legends Z-A
They sure are taking their time, if it ends up being a buggy mess like the last game then there is no saving future games.
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>>56969841
This image is a year old.
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>>56969952
And this one is from july 2023, back when the series was 3 months old.
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>>56969952
>>56969961
https://x.com/soulsilverart/status/1860488536962560143

I was talking about the latest one.
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>>56970164
>pretending that we don't know
God you're fucking useless Famon. Get a job, hobo.
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ICHI!

>>56970208

Minna ni toraretakunakute!
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>>56969841
Gen 10 Ashfree anime here we come.



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