Rest Week EditionWhat is Pokémon Sleep?Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.FAQ:>How do Shinies work?If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, you only need to feed it a single Poké Biscuit to befriend it.>What should I spend my diamonds on?Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, only get half of max for items and max 100 for Pokémon.>When should I use my items?When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.>What should I spend my sleep points on?Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?Nope! Pokémon retain the level of progress they were at the last time you fed them.>How do dream clusters work?The higher your research rank, the more you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.>Official Pageshttps://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/>Unofficial Pokémon Sleep Wiki[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.https://pks.raenonx.cc/en>Simple Candy Calculatorhttps://candy.blspnm.com**Back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. If you change phones, or factory reset, your account may be lost otherwise. At the very least copy your Support ID on the first Pokémon Sleep screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**Previous: >>56890278
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>>56978345>>>56978026Thanks anon. I only have two bfs pokemon that are useable so I'll train those guys up
How was your Eevee week?
>>56979180it was always going to be a weak week, eevee just isnt that interesting in my opinion. got two shinies though
>>56979180>got a new PB at Taupe, 3m strength without a GCT>got some new sleep styles>got a really good Skeledirge the week before when I was prepping for the event>all my event mons were trash and I didn't even find any shinies>also didn't find the Entei I left with 1 biscuit left to fullI wanted a perfect Eevee to make into an Espeon but I just cannot find one. The mandatory gold skill sucks because I do not care about BFS on it. Pic is the one I caught on the last sleep session, which I won't be investing in.
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>>56979180Bad. I found nothing of note.
>>56979180found my fifth eevee evo shiny. now i have a complete team, though only 2 of them are actually good.
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>>56979180It was okay. Got a decent shiny Leafeon out of it. A few good Eevees and I finally got to use my lvl 50 Vaporeon and he popped off. I can't believe I wasn't using it sooner, he can stock up your ingredients by himself with the amount he procs.
>>56979180I got one shiny Eevee the sunday night/monday morning before the event started, and then nothing the entire week despite using an Eevee incense every day.She's been added to my team now at least.
>>56979180Not a single female Eevee
Apparently theres a bug with the bag and mission rewards so possibly stay out of those
what's the best curry dish to make with 69 pot size?is it the butter curry?
>>56980892Ninja.
>>56980865Not always seemingly. Works for me so far...
>>56981669I've not encountered it either, it might only affect certain devices or app distributions, or maybe locales like non-English players.
T-thanks...
>>56982107Least it's female!
>>56979180Besides all the Eevees that I don't particularly need, spawns were mostly junk and evolved pokemon. And none of the 3* or 4* Eeveelution styles showed up. Only thing that came out of it is maybe 1 Eevee that's just decent, but not worth an immediate invest.
Well, I didn't really need another BFS 'chu, but that added Sleep EXP Bonus sure is nice.It uh, would also give me the choice of Egg, Apple, or Ginger focused gathering at level 60?
>Eevee week over>find a decent (?) eeveeI have no clue what to make of it. Jolteon?
>>56983335Jolteon for sure, since its main skill is just whatever. Vaporeon, Espeon, Sylveon you actually use for their main skills.Flareon, you use to provide milk at Taupe Hollow and some added cooking pot support.Glaceon is a similar deal but at Snowdrop Tundra.Leafeon you maybe consider at Lapis Lakeside since Energizing Cheer isn't half bad, but you really want a good Meganium for LL anyway.Umbreon, there's sadly no reason to consider it. It's too slow and giving Charge Energy S to a skill specialist makes no sense. Updating its main skill to a variation called Moonlight doesn't fix it.Note that Raenonx's estimate of Jolteon's performance here has to factor in the efficacy of its team mates, since Extra Helpful S has to pick a team member at random and get a number of helpings from them.Instead, examine each Eeveelution's helping speed and berry contributions. Jolteon hella fast, which compensates greatly for the lower strength of grepa berries. Umbreon's stronger wiki berries aren't enough to stand out.Plus Jolteon can be used in a Raikou team, added perk. A good Raikou team will consist of Raikou, Raichu, Luxray, an E4E healer, and then your choice of Dedenne, Ampharos, or Jolteon (or maybe a Pikachu).Helper Boost teams in general work best if everyone has BFS however, since you're bypassing helping speed and getting a number of helpings that roll for berries or unlocked ingredient slots.
>jolteon with a ton of help speed and no main skillLmao, no. Jolteon is already stupidly fast and the skill is really solid if you actually invest into it.
>Glaceon proc'd once 13 hours ago, and still hasn't done so since. Fuck this RNG.
>>56984704I still saw that and i hope you feel bad for admitting you play that shit game.
>>56984836I like it, and I don't feel bad at all.
>>56984722Apparently the pity trigger for skill types is 60x helps, so faster skill Pokemon actually end up having a higher activation floor.
Is this useful without any ingredient pluses?
>>56985328Actually, yes.A speed-maxed Dragonite versus an ingredient-maxed Dragonite looks to be a bit better if Yache berries are a favourite, and only slightly worse if they're not.Lack of BFS however holds it back a ton. BFS gives a huge boost to Dragonite due to how strong Yache berries are coupled with Dragonite's superb helping speed, and main skill that keeps its performance at peak.
>>56985427Oh but this is also ignoring that corn and herbs can be used to make some of the best recipes in the game.Raenonx's team analysis tool isn't great for considering recipes because it assumes you're making or aiming to make Spicy Leek Curry 21 times a week, and only lets you change that if you go premium.
>>56985427Wow niceI’m becoming more down on the full helping speed stuff since it starts making helping bonuses worse though.
>>56985445Not really though? Like sure that one Dragonite can't get faster, but helping bonus is still making the rest of your team faster.It's also not likely that your full team is going to run helping bonus or max/near-max helping speed boosts.It's a virtually unattainable level of optimisation.I guess a perfect level 50 spread would look like BFS / Helping Speed M / Helping Bonus with speed+ nature on all helpers? Just as raw berry gathering goes. This may not pan out well if you need ingredients or a skill specialist.
>>56985484Well sure but I do have a team that includes a guy with helping speed +31% by default and 2 helping bonuses, so in those cases I’d prefer basically any other skill instead of helping speed S, especially on an ingredient finder. I guess it’s a good problem to have.
>>56985328After having a Dragonite as one of my main Pokemon, it's fast enough and has a decent enough ingredient rate. The only thing is that I probably wouldn't use one that didn't have BFS as there are still stretches where it only picks up berries. Not to mention after it fills up its inventory, it provides a lot of power mainly through sneaky snacking overnight.
>>56985523With no ingredient boosts, Dragonite gathers ingredients about 26% of the time, but with maximum ingredient boosts that jumps to nearly 49%. That's extremely reliable if you get one.With or without ingredient boosts, BFS is the best thing a Dragonite can have, no doubt.
>>56985562Dragonite stands as the top ingredient gatherer in terms of quantity and ingredient power with the combination of its base rate and speed. Interestingly enough, Raichu and Suicune make it onto this list as a decent source of Apples.
Is this Eevee worth investing in as a F2P? Into a Vaporeon, Espeon, Sylveon, or other? I've heard that main/sub skill seeds are rare so they should only be used on perfect skill Pokemon.I've only been playing for about 3 weeks so I have no healer whatsoever.
A reason to go to Snowdrop now.
>>56986171That it would want both Subskill and Main Skill seeds makes it not worth actually putting those resources into it, but it you could still use it at its base strength and it would be decent at best. Unfortunately skill pokemon are hard to use early since they want at least 2 (often 3) subskills unlocked to really get going. That, plus main skill levels or Berry Finding to make up the difference.The problem with Eevee in particular is that since it only has 2 stages, it won't get up to Main Skill level 3 with just evolutions, which is when most skills actually become decent. Also what that Eevee has going against it as a healer specifically, is that an energy down nature gives it a pretty rough handicap compared to other skill types. The point of E4E healers is to be at high energy for as long as possible and chain its skills together so that it's always at high energy.But given your progress in the game, I would just say go for it. You would get more out of training an Igglybuff if you had the option, but I caught at least 20 of them before giving up on the line entirely. So in short, while it's not very optimal, you basically just have to take what you can get.
>>56983453Thanks.
>>56986201My guess>skill specialists with a new skillWhat it'll be>berry specialist with a better skill than HoundoomOh and it's time for a new evolution item baby!
>>56985523I hate feeling like I have to hold out for such a rare skill but yeah, my blastoise with bfs ends up doing as much in sneaky snacking as some of my berry finders sometimes.
So here’s my berry finding ingredient down venusaur, is this okay? I can get helping speed m pretty soon, basically just a regular berry bro but occasionally has a good ingredient drop
>>56986310It wasn't explicitly announced, but we know that it's almost certainly a dark type due to dozing sleep.Ice types have slumbering sleep.The only fully evolved dark type berry specialist is Houndoom, whereas we have Meowscarada, Tyranitar, and Absol for ingredient gathering, whilst Umbreon and Sableye are skill specialists (but not ones you'd want to run).It's honestly 50/50 if we get a dark berry or skill specialist, it needs to have a really good main skill to justify the speciality though.
>>56986515I mean... you can do whatever you want but it's not how a ingredient specialist would play to its strength
>>56986534>and Sableye are skill specialists (but not ones you'd want to run).Speak for yourself.
>>56986539Sableye is good but not the top choice of dream shard magnet users.Especially not due to the scarcity of Sableye candies, compared to the much more common Lucario or Gulpin candies.Analysis shows it loses out to Swalot which is much easier to set up.Lucario has the worse version of the main skill so can't produce as much, but has better strength gains.
>>56986655I don't care though. I like the lil bugger.Besides, Dream Magnet is a waste of an ability, especially for max research level players since higher power leads to better sleep styles leads to more dream shards (or research XP which converts to dream shards).
>>56986201is it though? it's not like they announced an event for it, just that they're going to start spawning therei don't really want to spend time on a shit island when i have OG to farm
>My entire party collectively decided to not produce a single ingredient todayGrim
>>56986910>he tries to speed grind the game
4th shiny chikorita and it was so close to being good.
>>56988183How can they even compare
>>56986854Yeah I kinda don’t understand that skill, using a mon with it and skill trigger m left me with waaaay less shards than if I’d just used a regular berry bro
Can anyone else not access the shop? I missed yesterday's daily gift and I haven't seen it brought up in the bug reports.
>>56988266Works for me
>>56986854>>56988212A good Dream Shard Magnet user that actually has its skill levels could double your Dream Shard gains per week. And swapping a single Pokemon out of your team shouldn't cripple your spawns and level ups that harshly. If you're actually looking for Dream Shards, Magnet is currently the best way to get them.
>>56988373I’m now seeing that my Persian with skill trigger M is pretty low tier when it comes to dream shard magnet, is that right? I’m lucky to get 2 procs a day
>>56986310>>56986534Given core game abilities, one would need to consider how Pickpocket or Pressure might translate into Sleep. Pickpocket would probably be Ingredient Magnet, but the closest I can think of for Pressure would be Extra Helpful. I'd be curious if they made Pressure an EH variant that racked in more resources but at the expense of more energy, kind of like bullying its fellow helpers. Egg is going to be one of the ingredient options though.Sneasel was one of my first favorites in gen 2 so I'm happy to see it in the game.
>>56988519Pokemon don't necessarily have their pokemon ability as their main skill. Basically only Mimikyu has a skill named after its ability. Stockpile and Moonlight are just moves.
>>56986655>Especially not due to the scarcity of Sableye candiesNot to mention the actual worst parts: trying to get a good Sableye to begin with (they really need to adjust how shitty it is to try getting a good single-stage poke), and not getting a free skill level up from evolution.I've camped Taupe for two weeks now and not a single one spawned.
>>56988506I mean, it's good for a Persian, but not entirely optimal with the lack of a skill nature, as nature ends up being stronger than the S skills. The raenon calculations also typically has the pokemon at high energy, so if your healer isn't keeping your team over 80% energy, it's not going to reflect the averages very well.The tippy top percentile of skill shard pokemon will activate 6-7 times per day, but yours may only be around 4-5 if you also keep its energy up. 2 more main skill seeds would also double the shards it gathers on every activation, so there's that too. If you're actually intent on running a Dream Shard Magnet pokemon, it's still probably better than most other things you would be able to find for a while.
Why is it always a good skillset + nature on the wrong pokemon? I got a Ralts with great ingredient skills+nature a week or so ago and now this Stufful.
>>56989443and the only Sableye I found was shiny.and like all shinys, they suck
I really have 1k Quaxly candies...
>>56988266Same with present items. Started happening yesterday
>>56990143Seems like they just released a patch that fixed it. I better get compensation for my missed daily gift.
>>56985822Dragonite is stupidly OP like that.Funny that you mention Raichu, I have a BFS Raichu that also ended up having maximum ingredient finding rate due to nature and subskills, and it's actually up there with my other top ingredient gatherers.
Never seen this version posted. This one is actually probably more relevant in many cases, even though level 60 unlocks are still really important for ingredient pokemon.
>ingredient finding nature>ingredient finder M>ingredient specialist>on 100+ energy all day>produces 2 measly ingredients a dayFucking HOW
>>56991824i need some explanation since i cant read moon runes.
>>56991838>he fell for the ingredient schizobet you got a single ingredient mon too
>>56991838What it’s level and what are the ingredient counts it claims to gather?
>>56991838Gengar's base ingredient gathering rate is pretty low, so boosts have less of an effect.Compared to Dragonite, that has such a superb base rate that maximum boosts virtually give it a 50/50 chance for ingredients or berries on each helping.Also if a helper goes into sneaky snacking mode by hitting carry limit they only gather berries.
>>56992381My Gengars were shit until they unlocked ingredient finder... just my bias tho
>>56992716Yeah, Gengar's base ingredient rate is only 16.10%. It's likely to counterbalance its very fast helping speed, but Dragonite is also faster than Gengar.
>>56993720does that make gengar a decent berry farmer if it has Berry Finding S?
>>56993930Yeah, it puts Gengar just above Banette when both have just BFS.Banette is a fair bit slower, and the difference in ingredient quantities gives Gengar the edge.
What should I look for in a Shinx? How's this? Skill triggers a bit too late, but usable?
>>56991846Just use your brain a little. The information is all there. Visually.This just lists all of the daily average ingredients for each ingredient combo for qualifying species at level 30.>>56993720Dragonite isn't actually faster than Gengar, but it's close enough on top of the polar opposite berry powers and near double the ingredient rate.>>56994016You can actually ignore Skill Trigger on 99% of non-skill types since their activation rates are low enough that trigger bonuses don't make all that much of a difference. That Shinx has a good first few subskills, but the nature is mostly just negative unfortunately. Unless you need tomatoes right away, I'd keep looking.
>>56994016Preferably no speed penalty, but this one is otherwise pretty nice.Luxray's main skill trigger rate is only 2.74%, and will only cap out at 4.39%. It's pretty pointless, but the Skill Level Up M has a very tangible benefit since it has a great main skill.Best Luxray is just max ingredient rate, maybe BFS for OGPP, maybe Skill Level Up M.Ingredients should be mono-tomato or tomato/tomato/coffee like you have there. tomato/oil/coffee or tomato/tomato/oil may also be good, it depends on what you need on a given week. Tomatoes are great for hidden power perk-up stew, butter curries, greengrass salads, and cross chop salads.Your Shinx is well suited to making hidden power perk-up stew on a regular basis, because it's a 92 ingredient dish that needs 25 tomatoes and 16 coffee, also 28 beans and 23 mushrooms.A single Cooking Power-Up S Lv. 5 proc takes a 69 capacity cooking pot up to 91; just 1 ingredient short but you could give it a main skill seed or wait a while for a future cooking pot upgrade.A level 60 Golem can gather both beans and mushrooms, so a two-Pokémon setup for making lots of perk-up stews exists.
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>>56994035>Dragonite isn't actually faster than GengarYeah I was mistaken on that.Reason was I that I read the frequency on raenonx team analysis and didn't realise that it was display a day-long average factoring energy levels.Dragonite's main skill means it's faster than Gengar on-average if you don't have an E4E healer running. Otherwise, Gengar is faster because of its base helping speed.
>>56979180found the first remotely usable eevee ive seen in several months
>>56994605It could barely be better, congrats.
>>56994605>maleonly use is for cannibalism
>>56994605didn’t expect to see a great 3 gold skill eevee so soon after discussing them
>We are currently developing a challenging new modeThis better not be some kind of competitive mode. The moment they decide to add competitive features in this game is when it will truly start to die.
>>56995990It might be something you can use other pokemon on that aren't on your sleep team I strongly doubt they're going to add competitiveness to a sleep app.
>>56995990>that allows various kinds of Pokemon to shineProbably making a space for the less-optimal Pokemon and not fully evolved ones.
>>56995999I have no doubt that they will add competitive features eventually, as competition is one of the main things that make whales spend mountains to make them feel better about themselves.But I doubt they are going to do that anytime soon. Probably only when the game starts making less money than TPC would like and enters the "milking" phase that all long-running mobile games go through.
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>>56996314should note that this coincides with the full moon on dec 15mega xp
>>56995990>Transform (Skill Copy)>Mimic (Skill Copy)Interesting, sounds like metronome, but it can only pick from main skills on your current team.This could therefore allow Ditto and Mr. Mime to use Helper Boost sometimes.It's probably implemented so you can't copy Skill Copy itself.>Addition of a mode that allows various kinds of Pokémon to shineWho knows what this'll be, but I wonder if it means entirely new metrics for existing Pokémon, something separate to the Snorlax strength-gains main mechanic we've played with so far.I've mentioned an idea for a nature mint farm before, maybe it can be a side-map where a separate team works to cultivate mints, and team formation influences crop growth and results.>Development of a new event, stylistically different from existing events>We are preparing a new event where all researchers' Drowsy Power will help complete itSounds like a "Global Mission" type thing to me, like in Sun and Moon's Festival Plaza, or Pokémon GO's Global Challenges, where it simply measures all connected players' general participation. So, not really a competitive feature as such, nor should the game be treated competitively because progress is largely just time invested, and sensible team picks, and a load of randomness if you go to Greengrass.Global missions rarely fail because they purposefully tailor the goal to measured data, so the goal is realistic and achieved ahead of a deadline but not too early either.The event is also explicitly encouraging you to maximise your Drowsy Power instead of any other focus like farming dream shards, levelling helpers after hitting Master 3, etc.An event like that will push Good Camp Ticket sales, Helper Whistle sales, etc.
>>56997476would be wild if you could just pick which skill you're copying. but it's not on skill mon so it's not going to be a very relevant change even if you could pick it
>>56998252Yeah, now the question is who else could get "Skill Copy" type main skills?Smeargle certainly jumps to mind.I also like this trend of more meaningful main skills that are variations of other main skills, like Stockpile, and Disguise.
>>56995990It seems obvious what Skill Copy would do. The real question is what makes Transform different from Mimic? I could see a "Crit" skill that adds extra levels onto the skill, but unsure of other ways it could meaningfully change.
>>56999724I guess Transform is just a higher tier, or they might have some sort of special mechanic due to the fact that they're not skill specialists.
>>56999724i feel like Transform would just change Ditto into the mon it's mimicking. which would be cool.>>56999159I think of smeargle too. Zoroark if gen5 can get in and Mew.
>>56986201What skill do you think it'll have?
>>57002458Could be interesting if Sneasel is a berry or ing mon with Dream Shard Magnet. And it would kind of fit since they have those yellow gems in the body.
>>57002458I would have just said Charge Strength S (or M even), but it looks like they're making specialized offshoots now. So I guess it could still technically be those, but with a new twist. Sneasel/Weavile are very offensive-oriented, so I figure more direct power over ingredients or energy.
>>57002929I could see Sneasel's main skill being something like Beat Up (Berry Burst).>Lv.1 Gets 8 Berries plus 1 of each of the Berries other Pokémon on your team collect.It's a really close approximation of how Beat Up works in main series battles, where each team member pitches in a small attack using their own strength.
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Full week of trash per standard.
So is anyone actually going to Snowdrop next week? Growth week is on the following week, so it would be nice to have anything worth training.
>>57006961I already have a good Abomasnow, so I ain't going to that shit map unless Sneasel is crazy OP. I still have to secure a good coffee mon in power plant.
>>56996147Are these the diamonds from Magikarp Jump?
>>57006961We don't even know what Sneasel does or how good it will be, so I'm sticking to the Powerplant.
>>57006961I've been going to Snowdrop for the past 2 weeks and will keep doing so until Christmas. Merely looking to max out the area bonus as much as I can. Weavile line being added was a happy coincidence.
>>57006961Sure, why not.
This fucking pebble is surprisingly servicable.
>>57006961I'll be going, since I'm still lacking in Abomasnow or Delibird, or exclusive sleepstyles like Lucario and Glaceon.Plus it'll be nice to have a raised area bonus if there's a meaningful event there, but otherwise it's mostly Sneasel motivated.>>57007166Yeah, actually the berries are the same graphics from Magikarp Jump too.>>57008695Main skill chance boosts don't do anything for it, but it's at least got a couple of ingredient boosts even if they're late ones.
>>57008867Yes anon, I know it isn't minmaxed. The point was that it was servicable for a shiny.
>>56986201the only way I could see myself using it is if it's an extremely fast ingredient pokemon with slot 1 oil.
>>57009140Poison types need a big buff in general, and we need a better oil gatherer than Toxicroak.That might happen when we get the Dragon / Bug / Poison island.
>>57009734Toxicroak is pretty terrible. I don't have any other ingredient pokemon that constantly comes up short when I'm trying to make high level recipes.And using Dragonite as a late oil pokemon would be a terrible idea.
>>57009840I have no issues with Toxicroak's Oil gathering. It's really easy to get one to level 50 thanks to how common Croagunk candies are, and then you're still getting high value berries thanks to its level and the strength of Chesto berries.What we really need is more Cacao and Leeks mons, but I doubt we'd get another Dark type with Cacao or a mono-Leek mon at this point.
>>57009902I'm just not seeing it. I have a pretty good Toxicroak and again, it's the only ingredient Pokemon I have that underperforms. I remember a previous poster doing the math and showing it's because the oil amounts are low compared to other ingredients of similar power. A mono leek Pokemon doesn't seem unlikely but I bet it'll have a terrible drop rate, or be incredibly slow. Something like... Sunflora.
>>57009734>>57009840>And using Dragonite as a late oil pokemon would be a terrible idea.I have a level 60 Gengar with Oil and it won't stop dumping it. You don't actually need that much oil to make recipes anyways, even if it is a decent filler to pad out the pot.
>>57009939Yeah, that was likely this graphic here and Oil gathering is low in both quantity and value for levels 30 and 60.Toxicroak is so poor at its role that it just barely gets beaten by a Tomato/Oil/Oil Luxray, and only outperforms a Herb/Corn/Oil Dragonite a little bit.
>>57009966Some of the best dishes need oil anyway.Explosion Popcorn is a great option for ease of making, provided you have any oil gatherers.Slowpoke Tail Pepper Salad is strong for being a low ingredient count dish, but it requires Slowpoke tails.Greengrass Salad is an excellent dish for Lapis Lakeside if you have a good Bewear and Victreebel / Mr Mime.Defiant Coffee-Dressed Salad is the current highest value dish, needing 100 ingredients including coffee, sausages, oil, and potatoes.I have passive oil gathering because of the level 60 Wigglytuff I'm always running (Honey / Oil / Cacao).Whenever I'm at Taupe Hollow, my Entei also gathers a considerable amount of oil somehow.I've rarely needed to swap in my Toxicroak to stock up oil, but that's usually because I have better paths to making other recipes like corn, milk, cacao.
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Let's say i have access to the perfect Bewear and Comfey for Corn gathering.Why would i use Comfey over Bewear on Cyan Beach if i just want the most corn in the shorted amount of time?Is the berry strength gain of (unwanted) berry helpings from Comfey that much better compared to Bewear's ability to better gather corn?
>>57010881no, especially in the case of bewear and comfeyfairy berries are low power, comfy is a much worse ingredient pokemon than bewear and its ability never triggersI still use comfey but only because I like it more, otherwise you should use bewear or dragonair regardless of island berry
Let's have one of these since it's been a while, post:>your mvp>which mon you want to see added>what do you think the last island is going to be>what new feature do you want to see in the game
>>57011087>mvpBoth my Aggron and Meowscarada are good pretty consistently. >which mon nextHoping for Crobat, Scolipede, Volcarona, Centiscorch and Furfrou. Or Serperior and Delphox. Or Milotic. >last island predictionsIf it's not an abandoned ruins in some jungle I'll be very surprised.>new featureStill nature and ingredient rerolls. Holding on to a bunch of stuff that would be amazing if I could just change 1 thing.
>>57011087>mvpI'll pick my best per role.Skill specialist, easily my shiny Wiggly. Max skill trigger rate, team's never tired.Berry specialist, my level 60 Raichu for now. I have superb Meganium, Typhlosion, and Feraligatr each that'll deliver once they hit 50+.Ingredient specialist, that's my Gengar with near-max Ingredient rate, Helping Speed M, and BFS. Gathers herbs/mushrooms/mushrooms.>new monWe need Unova rep, Venipede, Drilbur, Scraggy lines would nice be. Munna line seems obvious.>last islandWe know it's Dragon / Bug / Poison, so ruins in jungle like the other anon says makes a lot of sense. I think we'll get a final random berries island after that.>new featureNature mint farm where it takes a week to grow a crop, and your own sleeping along with helpers picked help decide how good the harvest is. You might pick helpers specifically separate to your Snorlax feeding team, which'll mean they can't do both.
>>57011011Comfey actually only gathers as much corn as a Stufful. Despite how fast it is, it doesn't pick up ingredient very often at all. IMO the best Comfey would need BFS to offset its poor ingredient gathering capabilities.
>>57011087>mvpGotta be my Arcanine, consistently my first mon to reach all the milestones, and just really good overall, I love him>mon you want to see addedI really like bird mons so I wanna see the likes of Honchkrow, Corviknight, Ho-oh>final islandI'm still hoping for the abandoned castle area. Honestly, I was disappointed with how OGPP looks, it's too grassy for me>new feature100% mints, but I'm also excited for any new types of events or maybe stuff like sending mons on dispatch missions or somethingOn an unrelated note, I'm thinking of investing in this Aron (left), but I'm not sure. It's pretty good compared to the best possible spread, and I also have a subskill seed to spare, which would make it basically tie the one on the right, but on the other hand I feel like investing in one right now is kinda unnecessary, and I could save my shards for a mon I need/want more (I only have like 200k atm).
>>57012582Forgot my pic like a dumbass.
>>57011011Alright, thanks.
>>57011087My boy shiny raichuAlohan RaichuA swampI dunno
>>57011087>MVPGardevoir>want addedXurkitree or regional forms of Meowth>last island?a cave>new featuresoverflow xp for meals, better/different sleep streak rewards, regaining ressources from releasing mons you invested in, some way to make hunting better mons easier.
Is this Santachu good as a skill mon?Main Skill Chance Up with Skill trigger S and MHelping speed down but Helping Speed S and MAlso inventory up M
>>57011087>your mvpGardevoir, can't beat restoring energy. Shout out to Dedenne, skill trigger s+m, this little critter triggers once to twice a day>which mon you want to see addedVenipede, the Nido's>what do you think the last island is going to beI was thinking of jungle, it could open some paths for future legendary/mythicals.>what new feature do you want to see in the gameEgg hatching or breeding
>>57013447Would rather not use it
>>57013447You'll have a decent chance to find a better one soon enough.
When is sneasel coming out?
>>57005175Sorry anon, I just didn't feel like playing this week;_;
>>57013447I think it's the worst Dream Shard Magnet Pokemon just in terms of activations.Also when judging a Pokemon, you only really want to consider the skills that can be currently unlocked. So basically only the first 2 skills + nature matter, with a distant consideration on the 3rd skill at 50. So your Pikachu basically has no Skill Triggers except for the nature, which is not good.
am I supposed to do something when my pokemon have a candy icon over them? I just keep tapping them repeadedly but it doesn't look like the candy drops.
>>57015381As long as you tap them, the candies popping up above their head is you collecting them. You get 2 candies for that Pokemon whenever that happens and they go directly into your inventory rather than you having to scoop them up off the floor.
>>57015559good to know, thanks
Surprise Raikou on Power Plant.I left it at 15/30 from the original event, so I probably should have just given it my daily biscuit. Though I guess if it ever shows up hungry, I can grab it with an Ultra Biscuit.
>>57013929Good luck for the future.
I hate Desserts because I don't have a real Cacao, Honey, OR Apple farmer.
>>57016456Ironically the Go Plus+ Pikachu addresses all that.A good Wiggly support can pitch in Honey / Oil / Cacao, but no cacao until 60.Meganium is also a good source of honey at level 30 since it gets 3x.
>>57016456weirdly enough, right now the only good honey Pokemon is Bulbasaur. Pinsir also gets mono honey but your chances of getting a good Pinsir are low. The only other honey ingredient pokemon is Grubbin who only gets it in the 3rd slot.The best apple Pokemon is by far fuecoco. And the best cacao Pokemon is ... Blastoise I think. Even though it is only b and c slot cacao, unless you get a very good Absol. I got lucky so I just use Absol. Though the best dessert recipes don't even use cacao so Absol has been collecting dust lately.
>>57016913Honey and cacao is a good case for how non-ingredient specialists help with stocking certain other ingredients.A good Meganium can gather a surprising amount of honey thanks to having a 3x honey slot at 30, and a decent 17.50% ingredient gathering rate.Meganium together with Wigglytuff and Go Plus+ Pikachu is why I'm rarely short on honey when I go to Lapis Lakeside, and don't ever really need to bring out my Venusaur.
>>57016456Desserts are fantastic on OGPP. My two Raichu drop a billion apples and I also have a good Skeledirge should I need more. I also have a pretty good Pinsir, by some miracle of the universe.
>>57016913I got lucky with my first Pinsir. Useful on both salad and dessert weeks. Wiggly (Lv.57) A/A/A is my only E4E right now so I rarely need anything else but these two to pick up honey. Wish I had a better egg-mon to let me make Jigglypuff's Fruity Flan 3x a day.
>>57016512I have the go++ and no it really doesn't. It can passively help build up a bit when you don't need them, but the instant you do it won't last.
>>57016456I don't have anything good for those ingredients either, but fortunately I can make popcorn consistently now.
>>57014877>it's the worst Dream Shard Magnet Pokemon just in terms of activationsI got curious about that, so I went to check. I too thought it was the shittiest sharder, but turns out that Persian manages to be a little bit shitter than it (though I still consider Persian better due to free skill level). And they are probably going to give santa Pikachu a shitty buff during Christmas, just like witch Pikachu.I'm also surprised by Swallot. I thought he was just a bit better than Lucario, but turns out the difference is quite significant as he outputs almost 30% more shards.
What is known about Sneasel/Weavile, by the way.Berry Type. Tasty Chance. Sausage/Egg/Beans
>>57018801>Berry mon for the worst mapGood to know I still have no reason to go to that place again.
>>57018801>BerriesDisappointing, was hoping for ingredients or skills since we already have Houndoom.It would be an upgrade though as the 32x helping speed is much faster than Houndoom's 26.18x (though 32x looks like a placeholder)>Tasty Chance SFinally another Pokémon with this main skill, another good reason to upgrade over Houndoom.>Sausages / Eggs / BeansAwful ingredient spread though. Eggs are fine, but fucking sausages again? Why?Houndoom wins on ingredients, Herbs / Ginger / Leeks are far superior.
>>57018801>16 pips to catch sneaselxd
>>5701913032x works out to the absolute baseline of 0 energy helps throughout the whole day, but that's not really useful information. It also has the same help speed as Tyranitar, which I assume will be about as fast as you'll get for a Dark berry type though.It's hard to speculate since the data hasn't been nailed down for Weavile yet, but talking purely berries x help speed, it appears to be one of the strongest berry types so far, barely a hair behind Raichu. And I'm also assuming its mundane ingredient spread is to offset its usefulness as a very strong berry farmer. The issue of course, being that Snowdrop actually has the most on-type berry farmers available to it already: Raticate, Vigoroth, Walrein, Houndoom, and now Weavile. I guess you could just run full berries on Snowdrop though.
>>57019299Raenonx's site did warn that due to game data changes, new Pokémon's helping frequencies aren't known immediately, so it might still be incomplete data.However Houndoom is base 95 speed and Weavile is base 125, so it's a reasonable assumption that it'll be a faster helper.As you say though, Snowdrop isn't lacking in good berry specialists, also it's snowdrop, waking up to 5/6 Pokémon being Croagunk or Toxicroak with dozing sleep fucking sucks.
Should I bother? or instant candy?
>>57019552I would invest in that, because dragon berries are worth so much and dragonite is good enough to do it. The only "bad" skill is skill trigger which is way better than research bonus or some crap like that.
>>57018801>>57018966In a way it's a relief I never have to go to snowdrop again, but damn that's a shit set for Weavile. If you're runnning berry Pokemon why would you even care about tasty chance up? This thing would need to be extremely fast and BFS would be a must since dark berries are mid. They're going to have a hard time convincing people to use this over raticate (for the two people that go to snowdrop for some godforsaken reason).
>>57019552Lack of nature and ingredient spread isn't ideal, however BFS and access to Helping Speed M + Ingredient Finder M via subskill seeds is a boon. This is actually worth using if you never get something better.
>>57019619>dark berries are midNo dude they're tied 4th strongest tied with oran berries.Only better berries are dragon, ice, poison. grass, steel.
>>57018801Why did it have to be sausage? Even though it's a berry mon, there are way too damn many that find sausage first.
>>57019619>why would you even care about tasty chance upMeal crits are very desirable and easily translate to over 30k extra power. Even a single Tasty Chance UP trigger can bring in plenty of value (or at least placebo effect).I would gladly take that on a berry mon over the usual Charge Strength.>>57019712>they're tied 4th strongest>follows up by saying 5 berries are better than it?
>>57020335Wiki Berries are still on the high end of berry power.
development seems paused, I assume they're doing the handover to TPC internal team
>>57020335I goofed and referenced an old graphic, wiki berries (dark) are stronger than durin (grass).But yeah Rawst (ice) and Chesto (poison) are tied for 3rd place, behind Yache (dragon) at top and Belue (steel) at 2nd.>>57020421It's also not unusual for development to wind down in December, with lots of people taking planned holiday.They probably have a bunch of things scheduled that needs some basic maintenance, and then things pick up again in January.
quaquavel is probably the worst ingredient pokemon, at least if you're trying to use it as a leek Pokemon. 2 leeks is absolutely pathetic.
>>57020782Mine's finding enough to make 2-3 ninja curries a day, good enough for me for now.
>>57020782Leeks are nerfed by design, look at >>57009984Chasing leeks and Slowpoke tails is a mistake, low quantities even at 60 doesn't justify making the dishes that need them.It'll take an ingredient specialist with leeks at level 1 to actually justify them, and that's probably reserved for Farfetch'd.
Which salad is best investing into: Calm Mind, Ninja or Cross Chop?
>>57021106Calm Mind is easier to make because it only needs three types of ingredients, and the 48% bonus is stronger than the 35% offered by Cross Chop.Ninja Salad, though powerful, doesn't give flexibility compared to the Corn-based salads.Say you've got a really good mono-corn Bewear, you can alternate between Calm Mind, Greengrass, and Cross Chop salads depending on your available for Apples + Honey, Tomatoes + Potatoes + Oil, Sausages + Eggs + Tomatoes.Go Plus+ Pikachu supplying a handy amount of Apples, Honey, and Cacao on top of any team formation is also very helpful here. If you have a Wigglytuff as a team fixture, you can get an additional source of honey and oil.Lapis Lakeside salads weeks are great when you have these, and then also Meganium for even more honey, and Victreebel for tomatoes and potatoes. Bewear can also gather sausages and eggs, adding to Cross Chop salad viability albeit at the expense of corn.
>>57021406Thanks anon.The 48% and 35% bonus you described are for the additional ingredients? Or another boost altogether?I have a triple corn Bewear that I just got to Level 50 with Ingredient F. Currently at Snowdrop and both Calm Mind and Cross Chop are viable dishes for this week with my lineup (Absol, Abomasnow, Walrein, Wiggly)
>>57021632The bonus is for all ingredients added to the dish, the base strength for Cross Chop salad is stronger by virtue of having more ingredients, which are also stronger ingredients.Calm Mind has more space for extra ingredients which get a bigger multiplier, so in practice the Calm Mind fruit salad should have stronger results.
>>57019273You're joking... r-right?
>>57021657Sneasel is indeed 16.It's the same as Onix; single stage Pokémon that got a new item based evolution in a future generation.Scyther would be the same if they were to introduce it.
I forget that Mr. Mime is on both Cyan and Power Plant, but NOT Lapis. And let's go ahead and continue to ignore the incredible overlap of Mr. Mime and Victreebel. I hope they bump his activation rate up with the new skill he gets, because otherwise he's just going to continue being second fiddle to a Pokemon that's not only better, but much more common.
Think this could be a good espeon or should I try for more skill triggers
>>57022895It's just ok, but a lot better once it gets to 50 and after you upgrade Skill Trigger to M. That's probably the best nature for it, so while it could be better without having to use a Subskill Seed, there's also the possibility of you not finding a better one for a long time.
>>57022363I was thinking earlier that Sneasel is probably the worst mon added since release, but then I remembered Mime existed so it's a tough competition. At least Mime has the advantage of being significantly easier to catch.
>>57010327Added. I'm lvl 60 and I won't delete you after we hit Max friendship and I share useful candies. (Orneryboy)
>>57021685LOL that's ass.That would also lead me to believe it's as rare as the big rock snake...
>>57023710All single-stagers are rare, with the exception of the ones with baby forms (Mr Mime, Wobuffet, Sudowoodo). Sneasel and Onix I guess being classified as single-stagers that just later evolved.
>>57024021No wonder there's no event for it...
>>57018801>Incense Info>GISo you can use the Incense there? Wouldn't that mean you could also naturally find it there?
>>57025175Not necessarily. Like I believe you can still use Aron, Shinx, and Grubbin incenses on Greengrass.
>wake up>do things>leave for work>forgot to actually process my go++Whelp, time for the B team for today
>>57025518They said they won't work after the release event IIRC
added all the anons ittI have zero friends atm
It's just weird when all members of a certain type don't appear in areas that favor their berries. Also stuff like Cramorant being on Snowdrop, but not Lapis. Snowdrop honestly just seems like the most poorly conceived area despite the strong theme.
>>57027082I feel like Aggron should be there, and Absol should be more common than it is. Gardevoir is in snowy areas in SV, so it should be there, as well. I'm shocked driftloon and driftblim aren't there.Introductions should include Alolan Ninetales, Misdreavus, Delcatty, Metagross, Piplup, Oshawott, Lopunny, Snorunt line... There's plenty of Pokemon who would work there. Problem is that there's nothing that spawns there that people use over other stuff. Weavile is very underwhelming.
How good is Feraligatr?
>>57027263oran berry strong so it’s rather good
>>57027082>>57027141The issue with maps that aren't Lapis Lakeside or Old Gold Power Plant is they feature too many undesirable spawns.Imagine going to Snowdrop Tundra, getting Dozing sleep, and getting an onslaught of poison types instead of the good shit like Gastly, Bellsprout, Psyduck, Absol, Sneasel and Delibird.>>57027263Superb actually. Meganium, Feraligatr, and Typhlosion are all top-tier, and this Totodile here is amazing, congrats.Getting that to level 50 will be so gratifying.
>>57027263It'll take a while but it's good.
>>57027343The issue with most of the crappy pokemon isn't only that they're common in rarity, but the same group of pokemon are also on practically every island so you can't escape them. And again, putting aside the puzzling collection of Pokemon that are actually on Snowdrop, there are only a couple species that are exclusive excluding Greengrass: Delibird, Slakoth, Absol (I always think it's on Taupe), Mareep, Snover, Lucario (actually exclusive), and now Sneasel.These make sense to some degree since they have longer fur than most other species. Still surprised Lucario is a fully exclusive, but I guess training in the cold/mountains is a classic martial artist training thing. So there are only 3 multi-stage lines for Snowdrop, but it's also missing an exclusive for Dozing, leaving you with a slew of other pokemon that are available on most other islands. And not only that, but there are actually 30 fewer styles on Snowdrop compared to the next sparsest island, working out to about 3 fewer lines available in general. The island desperately needs to be rebalanced.
>>57028836One of the other issues with going to Snowdrop is the weekly mission that gives you a Pokémon incense.Lapis Lakeside can give you incenses like Ralts, Stufful, and Dratini. Old Gold Power Plant can give you Grubbin, Shinx, Aron. These are all highly desirable.Snowdrop Tundra this week gave me Raticate incense. Fucking Raticate. Whilst it can be a good berry specialist for Snowdrop, Raticate's sleep styles are not difficult to get nor are they particularly valuable in terms of research EXP or dream shard payouts.I'd like to know a full list of available weekly incenses per-map, but I couldn't find a resource. I remember you can get stuff like Chikorita somewhere, or Graveler at Taupe Hollow.
>>57028882Yeah, idk why they haven't fixed incense rewards.
>>57028969They can't be overly generous, either.Like Sneasel would obviously be a very desirable incense reward, but they're selling those in expensive bundles right now.
>>57028993Obviously that is okay but i would prefer a Geodude Incense over a Graveler incense for example.Actually, staying at a lower research rank is better since you get better incenses IIRC
>>57029186There's a very big payoff in hitting max research rank though, your dream shard earnings basically increase about 50% due to all research EXP overflow converting to dream shards.You also can't really intentionally tank research rank just for the sake of "better incenses".But yeah, incenses for evolved species in general don't make sense for team building, and only make sense if you're trying to get a missing sleep style or maybe wanting to get an added payout from sleep style research.
i think they stopped the new coloured hat halloween pikachus from counting as a sleep style seen, so everyone might have lost two stylesor i fucked up tracking it
Alright friends, I need 3 more dratini candy to finally evolve my dragonair. I'm counting on you.
This wiggly was my first shiny and she has been keeping my team energized for over a year, but I finally found one with skill trigger m + skill nature. Is it worth the 200k shards and every candy I have to put that wiggly to a usable level or would the difference be negligible?
>>57030566The new
>>57030566>>57030573It's better after you give it a subskill seed, but honestly at that point I'd just be looking for a better Gardevoir instead. It doesn't really seem worth it to spend the extra resources for what is likely to be maybe an extra activation at most per day.
>woke up today>got dozing>two floragatto and a bunch of Gastly/Ekans>one of the gatos is hungry>figure I might as well catch one by feeding the hungry one a bonus biscuit and using the other to fill the leftover happiness when it gets full>check it after catching>it's as close to perfect as it getsFucking FINALLY, I'm now free from my potato woes forever.
>>57030566>>57030573>>57030876Ran it through team analysis and it would technically be an upgrade, but wouldn't be worth the investment.Your current Wiggly already gets around 4.6 activations a day, and your prospective new Wiggly gets 5 a day.Either way, your team would reliable recover 72 energy a day, with 90 energy being slightly more likely, but that requires taking a new Pokémon all the way to 50 again and giving it both a main skill and subskill seed.In practice, this advantage won't really be realised because if you're starting the day at 100% energy, get a waking double skill trigger activation to get everyone at 136% energy, and get a couple more throughout the day, your team should still be over 80% energy around bedtime.Energy drops 1% every 10 minutes, so that 36% overflow takes 6 hours to return to 100%, and 4 activations means 12 hours of peak performance. The buffer from 81-100% itself is another 3 hours.In short it basically means you won't notice a practical difference despite the cost, but you might notice the slightly reduced strength gains for the lower helping speed, and you might also have fewer double-crits after waking because your current Wiggly's Inventory Up L is actually a very nice perk.>>57031151That's virtually perfect. Fucking congrats anon.Even if the nature isn't perfect it's highly ideal, thing's gonna be faaaast.
>>57030253I literally need 1 single dratini candy, c'moonn>>57031151damn, congrats anon, not a single one of these skills is wasted
>>57031514Did you use up every handy candy you got?You'll get some on Monday morning anyway.
>>57031690>Did you use up every handy candy you got?Yes. On Suicune.>You'll get some on Monday morning anyway.True, but I literally just need 1 more to evolve it. It's killing me.
>>57031727Have you considered putting a full team of Dratini on?You'll eventually get a +2 candy from one of them.I'm pretty sure a couple people in my research photos are doing that with stuff like Cyndaquil just to accelerate their best one.
>>57027343>>57028288I'll just upgrade pot size a little before giving it the candy stash then
>Plan on capturing one by giving it 2 Poke Biscuits, then my Daily>Catch one with a mega crit on the first biscuit>Catch the other with a regular crit on my Daily Biscuit>What I gotYeah...
>>57031826If you're gonna stuff something full of candies, do it earlier rather than later.Using 271 candies as an example (based on the weekly research mission you might get at rank 60), that can take a typical level 15 Pokémon to level 27 with a 20.8k dream shard cost.At level 30, it can take it to level 38 with a 36.2k dream shard cost.That's +12 levels for 20k or +8 levels for 36k.By the way, to get your level 11 Totodile up to a level 25 Feraligatr, you'll need 271+120 candies, and 19.5k shards.That's level cost and evolution cost.25 to 50 after that is 853 candies and 157k shards, you'll be in for the long haul but we should have a candy boost event coming up, if you're willing to let your candies go further at the expense of 4x or 6x dream shard costs. Candy boost is generally only recommended for stuff that's still low level when dream shard costs are manageable, but I'm personally planning to do this with my Entei so it can get to level 50 and finally unlock Skill Trigger M. Will be expensive as all fuck though, but last year's holiday event had a dream shard farming focus where Dream Shard Magnet S users generate twice as much.
>>57032002I'll let him wait a little longer. Just found it in my box, been chilling there since february. Didn't know Feraligatr was top-tier, glad I let it stay. I'm rank 60 and 60k short of the next pot upgrade, so that's my main focus. At least I know who to feed for the weekly mission now..My guess would be that the holiday event makes a return, but with minor additional bonuses.
>>57032225The main thing I'm curious about is if they're going to keep the 6x dream shard cost for Candy Boost, or 4x dream shard cost for Candy Boost mini.Both double the EXP gained, but candy boost mini is limited to 50 candies per day.I had my final pot upgrade months ago now so I'm sitting pretty on dream shards for the moment. I have a number of Pokémon I'm particularly keen to get to 60 like my Gengar, Victreebel, and Bewear. The costs for them will probably be infeasible though, so I'm looking primarily at my level 38 Entei, and maybe the BFS Dedenne I have that becomes an Extra Tasty beast at 50.
Found shiny Haunter this morning. First shiny in months. It completes my shiny Gengar family. It's decent but I already have two Gengar in use.Man, it's kind of bummer. My Gengar I found as a Gastly. Shiny Mareep line I found as is. One of the Dotrio was a Doduo (first shiny; used it for CB back when I started). The Lucario I evolved.
>>57033177Think my last shiny was also about 2+ months ago. Wish I had some more exciting ones, though not like that would make me any more likely to use them.
>>57033891where's Gulpin/Swalot anon when you need him...
Best island to spend growth week on? Is it better to do an easy island and get master 3 in the first day on GG? Or is it better to do the power plant?
>>57034375Depends on your priorities. If you can manage one day and one night team (as the night team is the one to receive the XP) then you might as well go to OGPP. However, keep in mind that the exclusive spawns there need a rather high power requirement.Personally, i will choose something i need spawns from and can easily reach a high rank.... that will be Taupe. I'm looking for a better Charizard and Cyndaquil as well as a decent Fuecoco to begin with.
>>57034393hmm alright. I'll probably do taupe as well since I still need a Larvitar that isn't shit.
>>57034419I thought about that too kinda but this one took a while to raise.
>dragonair goes from one of my shittier pokemon to one of my best dragonite is insane
>>57034375So to review the event bonuses:>Helper Pokémon Sleep EXP ×1.5>Candies gained from the first sleep research of the day ×1.5>If overlapping events trigger more than one of the same type of bonus, the larger bonus will be applied. That last part is important because we have the Good Sleep Day event on Saturday 14th and Sunday 15th.What this is expressly telling you is that you're not getting both a ×1.5 and ×3.0 Sleep EXP bonus on Sunday, but just the ×3.0 bonus.The total maximum base Sleep EXP you can expect to earn next week will be 1250, up from a typical 700. Your high level Pokémon will maybe gain one or two extra levels at best. The real focus should be earning candies, since you can realise much better gains through extra candies which should also allow for Candy Boost later this month.So basically pick the map that has the most appealing spawn pools.Also consider a map with a high area bonus, higher Drowsy Power will boost your sleep styles and appearance of evolved Pokémon, which reward much greater candies.I'm picking Lapis Lakeside for this reason, over Old Gold Power Plant.Whilst it would be tempting to go to Taupe Hollow to help focus my Entei team, with the likely upcoming Candy Boost event I want to minimise dream shard expenditure by not levelling my Entei too far.
Rate this lil goober /zzz/
>>57035736We need to know the nature.
>>57035799Hardy, so zero benefits and downsides
>>57035736Not good. It's role is to find berries and there are no skills that help it.
>>57035736As the other anon says, no good.Berry specialists want helping speed and BFS (virtually mandatory).Skill trigger boosts do nothing for things that aren't skill specialists, since the boost is multiplicative not additive.+14% or +28% on something that has like a 1.8% skill trigger rate is meaningless.
Sneasel is a little odd, because unlike Steelix, evolution doesn't really offer anything other than a straight upgrade. Also now there's ANOTHER evolution item because Pokemon is a poorly thought out franchise.
>>57037065I'm more surprised that weavile's help frequency is 45. I really expected it to be as fast as Raichu considering it's faster than Raichu in the mainline games.
>>57037077Mainline game stats aren't reflected very accurately in this game. And if it was actually as fast as Raichu, it would be leagues above all other berry farmers and quite a bit more pay2win with how hard it is to acquire single stages in the first place. It could actually be a bit faster for that reason alone, but it's already on the top end of berry types
Christ, why is a Raticate incense even a thing from Snowdrop? They really should change some of the reward incenses. Snowdrop is shitty enough as it is, this is just an extra middle finger.
>>57038379There doesn't appear to be a resource that actually lists which weekly Pokemon incenses are available for which area anymore. Though a lot of the higher research rank rewards end up being useless because they move to being stage 2 Pokemon. It can be argued that those are "better" or "more valuable", but the difference between Dream Shard, Candy, and Research EXP isn't very different until you get to 3rd stage Pokemon. There is also the possibility of the highest research ranks unlocking incenses for 3rd stage and single-stagers, but this midpoint more often than not, is a whole lot of nothing. Right now only Lapis and Power Plant actually have universally good incenses since they're the exclusive 1st-stage spawns for their respective islands.
>>57038903there were a couple of infographics made for the incenses, but it is silly it's not on a website somewhere
>>57039167A lot of that is either down to Reddit being used as a repository of information, or other sites just burying their stuff under SEO crap.I looked on Raenonx' Pokémon Sleep Wiki for this incense info too and it didn't seem to have it, though it did have a section on the available weekly missions and how they scale with your rank.
>>57039167How I think it should be for M3 incenses:>Greengrass IslePichuBulbasaurChikoritaIgglybuff>Cyan BeachTotodileSquirtleSlowpokeQuaxly>Taupe HollowCharmanderCyndaquilGeodudeGrowlitheFuecoco>Snowdrop TundraSlakothMankeySphealSnover>Lapis Lakesideas is currently plus Sprigatito>Old Gold PowerplantAs is plus either Magnemite or Palawan startersAlternately they could allow us to choose from a pool of incenses or allow us to make an incense with only mons from that area being allowed for dream shards and some candy.>>57039448This game is pretty niche despite its earnings. I'm surprised that there even is a site as autistic as raenonx.
2836-4180-3638 could really use a couple friends after removing 15 that haven't been active in a month
>>57039458Raenonx is clearly trying to carve out a niche so it can earn some cash on a new market, it's why they launched a new site for TCG Pocket too.TCG Pocket is absolutely huge though so it won't surprise me if their Sleep Wiki falls behind.
All I wanted was a Double or Triple Egg Delibird, but really happy I got this guy today.Now, if only there was some way of changing the ingredients...
>>57040213Guess you've got a nice Flying berry sub, but it would need more than just an ingredient change to be producing eggs in any competent capacity.
the game actually gave me what I want for once>mono ginger larvitar>BFS level 10>ingredient up nature>helping speed M at 25, helping speed s at 50>only one wasted skill trigger M at 75 I'll take it
>>57041303That's hella good, congrats anon.Skill trigger M arguably isn't that negative either, Charge Energy S is useful so slightly better odds helps it.
>>57041341good point, I'll take an occasional self heal over research exp or dreamshard bonusit's going to be nice to have a dedicated ginger pokemon now, you don't realize how many high tier recipes use it
>>57041356I've never needed a dedicated ginger mon myself though, due to the over-abundance of Pokémon that already gather it, including top picks like Raichu and Typhlosion.It's up there with over-representation like sausages.It's just a shame that Ttar's ingredients aren't as strong as Dragonite's, seriously. They did Ttar dirty.
>>57041596Ginger is pretty good on tyranitar, imo. Keema curry needs 12, so 36 a dayCorn scones require 20, so 60 a dayand spiced cola needs 20, so 60 a daymeanwhile you only need fiery herb for keema curry. So fiery herb is good filler, but ginger lets you actually make more good recipes.Corn is excellent, though.
>>57041596You can technically get a Tyranitar much earlier than a Dragonite, but yeah. Ginger is useful, but it doesn't help that it's not that high value of an ingredient and that its other options are very common too. I think the best spread is probably Ginger/Beans/Ginger or alternatively Ginger/Ginger/Beans to have some variety. You really only need so much of any one ingredient and Ginger is just OK for a filler.
>>57040213Even with a good ingredient list that Delibird wouldn't be good.Any ingredient mon without a single ingredient boost is trash, and Berry Finder doesn't account for much when Flying berries are the worst ones in the game (tied with Bug berries).
Balanced sleep has rarely ever been beneficial. Opportunity to get anything often ends up giving you the worst of what's on offer. Instead of 1 uncommon nice things, most of the time you just get the widest spread of nothing.
I don't even know where I'm going for growth week. I already have a Gadevoir and Dragonite from Lapis that are almost 60 so I'm not really throwing candies into them at this point.I actually perform pretty poorly on Power Plant, so that's probably not a great idea. The spawns there are also sort of just "nice-to-have"s rather than high priorities for me.I do need a lot of stuff from Taupe, though the event isn't really going to help me get something actually good from there either. Same could be said about just about any island.
>>57043080Taupe is cozy.
>>57043080Well consider this, by not going to Old Gold Power Plant, you won't progress your OGPP team or get many resources that help further that team.As you say though, you stand to get the best gains by going to Taupe.I'll be going to Lapis Lakeside again. My area bonus is 70%, my full BFS team is very strong, and I'm still trying to find a Ralts and Dratini worth running.Dratini will matter a lot for a future dragon/bug/poison island.
Are any of you fuckers still here? I'm losing hope...
>2 dozing and balanced sleeps since tuesday>0 sneaseli'm at master 10 if i see a weavile tonight i'm chucking a master biscuit at it
Unsure where I want to go for growth week, I have this Ninetales that really wants to get to 50, and a larvitar that I can sleep with at the same time to get a mono ginger farmer, but at the same time, while I don't nearly need to get to level 50 on this feraligatr, I do have this bfs cleffa I would like to invest in. So the choice is between taupe and cyan, both at 60% bonus.
>>57045056I deleted 3 of those guys awhile back.
>>57045056>they achieved eternal sleep
dragonite... yamete...
So close to being something...
Either of these two look good or should I keep searching
Damn, I didn't know that the weekly grade could go as low as F.
>>57047463I think the Kirlia with an upgraded Helping Speed M would be a little better than the Ralts, but neither are really spectacular. You want Skill Trigger M accessible by 50 at minimum for anything that's going to use its skill.
>>57045108Growth week is really less about getting your team more EXP, but more about getting extra candies from your sleep research. 1.5x EXP really isn't all that important compared to the multitude of other candies you can get over the week, especially from rarer spawns. I guess you can actually plan that way as well. Which fully evolved lines and single-stagers do you really want candy from?Also berry power is exponential, so levels are actually really important for berry farmers even if they don't necessarily need further skills. A Pokemon with level 60 berries has 150% of the strength of a level 45 Pokemon, and 200% the strength of a level 30 Pokemon. And in line with this same comparison, while off-type berry farmers only perform about as well as a level 30 on-type one, they still usually end up providing a lot more power than most on-type skill or ingredient types if you're lacking enough members for a full team.
>>57048077>Growth week is really less about getting your team more EXP, but more about getting extra candiesYep. The EXP gains from Growth Week are a scam.>50 extra EXP/day for a week = 350 extra EXP on each mon>Meanwhile, Good Sleep Day is two days of extra 100 EXP + one day of extra 200 EXP = 300 extra EXP>The special GROWTH event only gives 50 extra experience over the event we have every month
>>57048272Having the event is still a bonus over not having anything, for what may've otherwise been just a gap week.They chose to have it overlap the monthly Good Sleep Day event though, which in this case reduces the overall bonus by having fewer days that award bonus EXP compared to avoiding the overlap.Sleep EXP in general is not where you gain levels, since only 5 active team members can get it.This is the third Growth Week anyway and it looks like it's gonna be a routine thing, and we'll have to see what events they may have planned for the weeks of December 16th, 23rd, 30th.Probably nothing on 16th, Dream Shard event for 23rd, New Years event for 30th.
Who else is cozy on taupe this week? Hoping to see a bunch of Tyranitar. I even got curry which is my best meal type by far.
>go to ogpp to find grubbin>don't see a single one for 2 weeks>get a perfect shinx insteadok then
I was really indecisive about where I was going to go, but ended up sticking to OGPP. I really would like a good mimikyu or drifloon, but since I got dozing for almost the entire last week, I doubt I'll get it again this week, so I'll probably not even see them.But that's the thing, even in other areas, the mons I want the most are also dozing (delibird, houndour, dratini), and I would absolutely hate going to taupe just to see a trillion Cubones and Geodudes again. At least at OGPP there's Aron.
I'm this close to just actively ignoring shinies from now on.
>>57049970It's not that bad, at least it's helping speed up and has an ingredient finder eventually. It'd be an alright bean pokemon.the real problem is that shiny quaquavel sucks
7923-3714-4424couple of spots open, removed inactives
>>57050023>not that bad>no ingredient finder before 50>nature directly counters the first two subs
>>57050066it could be worseit could have 0 ingredient finders, 0 helping speed, an ingredient or helping speed down nature, and sleep, research exp and dream shard magnetthis is a C pokemon, not a D or an F
>>57049774you will never long for tomatoes again, congrats>>57049870I considered OGPP but progress is a slog and I'm worried spending too many weeks there is going to kill my enjoyment of the game. I already have a fully evolved Vikavolt and Aggron anyway.
3 Balanced Sleeps and a final Dozing. No Sneasel or Weavile.
>>57050453I got Weavile on balanced. Most lucky I've been recently...
I’m purging. Please add me0315-3779-0495>>57045056Quinze bros…>>57050042We’re already friends
I currently have a fire stone and I'm wondering which of these two would be worth using it on (my current Flareon for comparison to this Eevee I'm debating on using)
>>57052078I would use it on the Growlithe. Arcanine is fast enough to be great with BFS and its ability is nice when it triggers.It's not worth switching to that Eevee, you'd want at least one skill trigger.
>>57052311Yeah i have a double skill trigger entei and a bfs typhlosion and Ninetales so having the Arcanine as another stacker to prepare for an event week sounds like a good idea
>>57052078Cooking Power Up really seems like a waste. Can you really gather that many extra ingredients per day to fully utilize the skill? I usually barely make out even with my pot and it's not even fully upgraded yet.The Eeveelutions aren't particularly great at gathering either, even with BFS. I would have suggested using them earlier in the game's life span, but now there are just better and easily accessible options.
>>57053556I too don't see much point in using a cooking power up mon the entire day.Outside of stacking it for a burst at the start of an important week, the real value of the skill is in leaving the user in your team until it triggers once to allow you to cook a higher tier dish, then benching the user right away until it is time to prepare for the next meal.
>>57053556There's generally two kinds of strategies to strength gains in Sleep, pushing your top line or bottom line.Bottom line is stable gains for consistency week on week, like reliable helping speed, BFS, ingredient finder, skill trigger, etc.Top line is riskier but potentially huge gains for when you're pushing for breaking records, like extra tasty chance, cooking power-up, slowpoke tail stockpiling, berry bombs, etc.Top line strategies aren't viable to perform every single week but bottom line strategies are reliable for keeping routine income going (shards, research EXP, encounters, candies) whilst helping you to prepare for an event week where you want to aim high.
Should I focus on levelling up this Ralts or hold out until I catch one with a good nature?It comes with Skill Trigger M and S at 50 but not much else going for it. Worth just evolving so at least the Skill improves?
>>57054942honestly, i've been considering to avoid any neutral natures unless the first 2-3 subskills are the best of the bestnegative nature feels too bad to use
>>57054942It's okay as a hold over but don't overly invest.
>>57045056>9 friends not logging for more than 7 daysDo I gut them
>>57054942evolve it into garde + get it to lvl 25 if you're in desperate need of an E4E healerIt will suffice until a better one comes along, granted you shouldn't immediately do the same to a marginally better one. I'd wait for at least a PR 97+ one before fully commiting to one
Cmon, just give me BFS already..I would have been happy to use that Cyndaquil.
>>57055715Depends. One of mine changed their name and honestly that's reasonable. Wouldn't gut that anon for example.
>>57055715generally yes, you only get 50 friends and considering the friend related rewards you get (suicune, raikou, entei manes) you should find 50 consistent players as soon as possible
CHRISTMAS EEVEE!
Also official announcement for double dream shards, but this is more exciting.
Also specific rules for the event.
>>57057216shit alolan ninetales is one of my favorites, I hope it's not a berry pokemon like the kanto one
>>57057254>five times Dream Shard usage for Candy BoostNot bad, that's an improvement over the six times cost of the original version, a good middle ground between unlimited usage and the four times costs of the 50-candy limited mini version.Annoying that the event is still limited to Greengrass but I'll live. Also Dream Shard Magnet S users having double Dream Shards again, very nice. Guess I'll roll out my Riolu and Lucario again like last year once I hit master 10 or something, and keep my Walrein running with all the ice type boosts and guaranteed rawst berries,>>57057284It probably will be even though they just gave us Sneasel line. However the Santa Hat Pikachu being a skill specialist instead of berry specialist does give hope.I wonder if they'll go the Go route of Kanto and Alolan Vulpix lines sharing the same candy pool?
>>57057216>PawmiFuck yes.>christmas eeveeFuck off. Give other pokemon a chance to have christmas forms.Yes, I know it's the first it's getting, but even Pikachu didn't need the two it got.
Dream Shard event bonuses.2x Dream Shard Magnet boost, same as last year.2x (or 3x on some days) Dream Shards from Sleep Research.Ice-type bonusesAlso the event will only be on Greengrass, with guaranteed Ice berries as 1 of the 3.
>>57057284Why would you NOT want a berry Pokemon? Snowdrop will still be pretty shitty even after the new spawns show up, but having berries for each type is always useful given how often events are Greengrass-only.
>>57058228>but having berries for each type is always useful given how often events are Greengrass-only.We already have an ice berry pokemon, even if it's slow as shit.But my personal reason is that I prefer making meals and never use berry Pokemon. So I'd like to use Alolan Ninetales, but won't if it's a berry Pokemon.I don't see it being an ingredient Pokemon, but I wonder if it'll have the same ingredients as K Ninetales.
At last, a chance to use my boy again.
>>57058854>>57058854>>57058854New Snorlax
