>Be Ash>Be the protagonist of Pokémon for 26 years>Don't catch a single legendary for your entire run>Get replaced by some random girl>She immediately catches a legendaryHow do we feel about this?
>>57001919Kinda weird that she waited 75 episodes to catch pagos
>>57001919Sounds like Mary Sue behavior desu like Goh.
>>57001942You didn't watch the show
>goh>likoNot canon
>>57001919i feel otherwordly
>>57001919The Pokemon animated series ended when Ash beat Alain and subsequently the League and fucked Serena
>>57002037
>>57001919so are we just gonna pretend that melmetal and poipole aren’t legendary?
>>57001919Liko and Ash are fucking dogshit, and the Ashime should be cancelled
>>57001919She looked after that little shit for the majority of the time once it was no longer dormant because in it's current state it can't even get up on its own when it falls on its back. Rystal the woman who looked after that turtle over one hundred years ago in the anime was summoned at the crystal pool in Kitakami to explain what actually happened with the main antagonist and why he's like this. The turtle turned into a pendant because it gave up most of its power to stop a substance from flooding the lands which turns Pokémon into aggressive beasts, never to wake up again in Rystals lifespan.Once the summoned Rystal was sent back, did the turtle started crying because it now knows it will no longer see her again, feeling alone. Liko only caught it as a gesture to let Terapagos know that it's not alone, even using the nickname that Rystal gave it all those years ago, "Pagogo".So when you ask me how I feel about it, I'll say it's done good taste.
>>57002074 (Me)Oh and before I forget about it, we don't even know if she will keep it at the end. So this could be another Cosmog case just with more steps and buildup."immediately" my ass
I'm 41 dude. I don't care for toy advert characters, much less ones just recently introduced to the newest members of the target demographic. Why do you care so badly?
>>57002045Yes because they aren’t
>>57002074>>57002079That's not bad on paper. I'll wait until the subs are out but if it's like that then I don't have a problem with it.
>>57002074>>57002079/thread
>>57002045They aren't.
>>57001919Flop show
>>57001919Wait, I'm confused. Wasn't this Terapagos ALREADY hers?
>>57002140No, she only officially caught it in yesterday's episode. That anon >>57002074 provided context
>>57002093Mythicals are a sub-category of legends and always have been dude. Not to mention there's still autistic wastes of space that insist on calling them event legendaries still, so sit down. You kinda have a point with Naganadel, but at the same point how much of the "UB's aren't legends" is from Game Freak remembering the reaction to Sinnoh's 14 in-game legendaries as it was they wanted to treat them different? Because they're still treated as sub-legends in the code, on par with the birds, beasts and similar.
>>57002156There is not a single Japanese source that has ever called Mythical/Illusory Pokémon a subset of Legendary Pokémon.
>>57001949no one didfemale leadnigger male leadthese characters arent going to go into gen 10 and wont get anything even remotely close to some of the kino episodes and movies Ash gotif they win the league then theres nothing else for them to do and everyone will realize that unlike ash who kept going places to improve they wont and every season after will end the same wayno based team rocket either
I am happy for Liko, she deserves the Terapagos. As for Ash, Solgaleo is there, but he still hasn't officially captured it in a pokeball, maybe one day...
>>57002202He's basically the dad tho
>>57001919>protagonist catching a legendaryI sleep.>protagonist catching a terrible pokemonReally shit.
>>57002195NIggah no one is watching a quarter of a century of the same shit repeated ad nauseum over and over
>>57001919The show should have just followed Goh instead. I don't care that he was a walking ad, he's a more enjoyable character.
If anything it waters down the concept of catching a legendary. She'll die in the series finale so it's okay.
>>57002240>each season is going to be as irrelevant as the last and depend heavily on how good the games are>or it needs a gimmick for the season to keep attention>not going to be too long because they have to wrap everything up to coincide with the next games releaseyeah, thatll surely draw attention to the shows
>>57001919>random girlShe's the descendant of its original trainer, and looking at her family tree Ash was the random kid>B-but muh moviesOutside of the dub he really wasn't a legendary chosen one, but leaving Ash aside because he's gone, Roy and Dot are the random kids compared to her
>>57002074Ash looked after Nebby since it was a freaking baby and had an actual chemistry with it but he wasn't allowed to catch it because of the anime rule that stated that main legendary and third legendary are too powerful to be captured by a trainer. He wasn't even allowed to catch Latios or Latias even after all the trouble he went though to protect them for a Pokémon Hunter.But now they are breaking their own rules that they forced Ash to follow for 26 years because the new protagonist is their self insert. Pokémon 2023 is no longer an actual series, its a wish fulfillment fanfic.
>>57001919I know you're used to wasting decades of your life to see some progress but 75 is not "inmediately" by any stretch.
>>57003367>As-And with that I stopped reading. Just because your self-Insert never got a legendary doesn't mean that other characters can't have them. There never was a rule written down for it anywhere to begin with, so take your weak crab mentality and please leave this thread which values actual input.
>>57002156>Mythicals are a sub-category of legends and always have been dude. They've very clearly never been.SWSH dlc was advertised as having all legendaries and it didn't have all mythicals.>Because they're still treated as sub-legends in the codeYou've no idea what code is.
>>57003367So Ash did the exact same thing Liko did but its bad if Liko does it.
>>57001919Legendaries haven’t meant anything for a long time and the anime is shit
>>57003382>And with that I stopped reading.Off course you did since you have no arguments for a Mary Sue with no compelling personality or motivation gets a third legendary pokémon handed to her on sliver plate because she has magical bloodline.No wonder you have to attack better character with actual character development to defend a trash mary sue like Liko.>>57003390Ash never gotten a legendary pokémon handed to him for having magical bloodline.
>>57001919Thats a Mythical, and Ash also had one.
>>57002037I remember that episodeAnd then Ash heard a very loud "BURASTO BAAAAHN" and woke up
>ashfag thinks he knows character development
>>57002195>wont get anything even remotely close to some of the kino episodes and movies Ash gotYou mean we won't get 1,000+ episodes of Roy and Liko losing the league to a random dickhead that was introduced at the ass end of the season and 20+ indistinguishable movies about the protags prancing around with a gay little pixie mon and protecting it from a scary 1-dimensional bad guy?! Oh ye gods; how will we ever cope?
>>57003478>ProjectingNot even once did I mentioned your self-Insert anywhere in >>57002074 and using buzzwords for Liko won't magically make them come true either. Have a good day, retard.
>>57002195>Doesn't watch the show >Pretends to know shit This board is pure cancer
>>57001919What is so important about Liko catching Terrapagos? It is already pretty much hers. She inherited it from her great great grandmother in the first place and it stays with her everyday for around a year.People are hyping it up like Masuda promise to store bug in their anus if they did.
Ashfags and Likofags crying about which of their shitty anime OCs is better
>>57003569Ashnimefags watching 20 years of movies about Ash & friends going on a happy whimsical adventure with the regional Mew stand-in>WOOOAH the bad guy woke up a big scary box legendary and now it's using hyper beam! Absolute kino!!!You guys are absolutely underaged.
>>57003546Its already true regardless you like it or not. Liko is a garbage Mary sue who haven't done a single thing to be a compelling protagonist for anybody to give a dam about her in 76 episodes and need to have special ancestors handing third legendary pokemon on her lap .
>>57003632For a lot of people, Terapagos in the anime is seen with pure contempt because it's the sole reason they haven't gotten answers about what Terapagos can actually do in the games, because if all of their cards were laid out in Indigo Disk, there would be no mystery or intrigue on why Terapagos in the anime is so relevant to Lucius' lineage and the land of Laqua.Time Travel VS Imagination is STILL an ongoing debate because we don't have enough to reach an agreeable conclusion, and we won't until the narrative climax of Horizons where this dumbfuck turtle finally gets exposition dumped.
>>57003890>about her in 76 episodesThat's nothing. She just begun. Wait 1000 more episodes and then we discuss.>>57003892>Time Travel VS Imagination is STILL an ongoing debate because we don't have enough to reach an agreeable conclusionImagination has been buried anon. Only the hardcore timetravelfags claim imagination is a thing.
>>57003890>it's true. Trust me broWhatever helps you sleep at night. You're alone with your buzzword rambling anyway. Liko's show will go the full gen cycle, people are gonna talk about it because they care and there is no lie that can help you do something about it.
>>57003892So alternate universe is not widely accepted yet?Also, won't people just argue that anime has different canon than the game?
>>57003957>So alternate universe is not widely accepted yet?Not even. While imagination's dead, now the debate has shifted to "Time Travel VS Alternate Timelines/Universes", because of the inconsistencies in the terminology use between both Professor and AI, and across localizations, all coupled with a lack of thorough understanding of how Terapagos' powers work since it's the whole reason we have this source of confusion in the first place thanks to it summoning the professor at the Crystal Pool.
>>57003832That does sound funMuch better than Team Rocket showing up in a giant robot Magikarp once an episode.
>>57002195>racist>is retardedEvery time
>>57002037you will never be Ashyou will never fuck Serenayou will never be white
>>57001919It's a girl.She will need a lot of "positive discrimination" to succeed.
>>57003968>and across localizationsOnly on localizations.In the original its coherent.>>57003957>So alternate universe is not widely accepted yet?If by that you mean "parallel timelines" then yeah its literally the thing that's "timetravel" is fighting against.And that's mostly only because hardcore timetravelfags insist on a single timeline because the seemingly hate being right.>Also, won't people just argue that anime has different canon than the game?Hasn't stopped discussion ever at any point in the history of the franchise.
>>5700391376 episode is not the beginning, it is the end of the season. A good protagonist only need the first episode to become compelling enough for audience to give a dam about them and that's determine how long they can last as protagonist .Ash nailed it in the very first episode drawing not only who played the game but also people who never even heard of pokemon before. That's why he lasted for 1000 episode. If Liko and Roy couldn't pull that off in 76 episode than there is no need carry the story. Dump them and make an Isekai on Pokemon Legends Z-A.
>>57004023Pretty sure Ash is not fully white, he is slight tanned .
>>57004094holy double standards.
>>57004094I will translate this schizobabbling>I like this character but I hate that he got dumped after so long because it breaks my narrative>I will furiously and aggressive on anything that comes afterwards because I am unable to understand or to accept that I am no longer the target audience.>In my eyes and my alone, everything I don't like should get dumped for something that should only cater to me and me alone.It's been over two years. Any healthy person would just leave once they see that it won't go back to the way it was. Just leave, it's not healthy for you to seethe so much over this.
>>57003832>>WOOOAH the bad guy woke up a big scary box legendary and now it's using hyper beam! Absolute kino!!!Wow, that's sounds like the entirety of Pokemon 2023.
>>57004114>No hyper beam anywhere in PM23Are you even trying with your deflection?
>>57004113Let me translate this --> I think every anime has to be edgy and serious where main character is super special with special bloodline who gets everything handed to him and fight forces of evil which I wish for myself but it never gonna happen because the real world doesn't give me special treatment and I hate protagonist who actually has to go though struggle & character development to reach the top because it tells me that I could have done the same but I am too lazy to even try and wish everything would just fall on to my lap.There is no argument, no logic to defend Liko getting the strongest pokemon of Paldea handed to her on sliver plate. Both she and her ancestors are trash who need special treatment because they has no character to carry their story.
>>57004189I never once said anything about edgy, does the edge live rent-free that much in your head? Rant dismissed.
>>57004189>literally can't read>thinks he can use words like "character" and "story".
>Ash has power of the aura, has encountered countless legendaries and mythicals, and has a Greninja with its own special alternate form>all that shit and they still want to cry about Liko being a mary sue because she caught a TerapagosDo Ashnimefags even watch their own show?
>>57004127There is no evil movie villain using main legendary pokemon to shoot hyper beam at main character. Most movie villain tries to use ancient weapon or unknown material like Rakulium to try and take over the world. Pokemon 2023 is just poorly written version of Pokemon The Movie 09 The Temple Of The Sea.
>>57004208>Ash has power of the auraEverybody in Pokemon World has Aura.
>>57004208The Terapagos case was even already explained early in >>57002074. I haven't seen any sort of big outrage outside of this thread over it.
>>57004212>Immediately hides behind stereotypes of "most movie villain"Yeah, you can't even be bothered trying. I would tell you to move on already but that seems like a lost cause.
>>57004208They do. Your problem is assuming that someone who watches the ashnime can be reasoned with.Liko/Horizons is not honest, it exist only because its not the ashnime; the same thing they always did with non-ash media.
>>57002156>>57002165Mythical = not encountered normally in gameLegendary = encountered in game once, does not lay eggs.
>>57004246>Liko/Horizons >Liko/Horizons criticism*
>>57004005>Ashnime movies are better than the ashnime itselfI mean I guess...The first 3 movies were peak even dubbed. Celebi was ehhh and 90% of the other Ashnimovies are just a rehash of Celebi with the current gen's Celebi/Mew stand-in. The few Ashnimovies that stand out like Rise of Darkrai or Zarude are worth watching. Folga wooga imoga womp, anything's better than watching batches of 100+ episodes that end in Ash losing the league.
>>57003892>because it's the sole reason they haven't gotten answers about what Terapagos can actually do in the gamesThat doesn't even make sense to begin with. The current anime has to literally wait for news about games. Terastal Terapagos only was allowed to be featured in the anime after the Indigo Disk got out, they literally are timing it so their episodes are somewhat lining up with marketing like the Shiny Zygarde appearing in the next episode after the ZA announcment trailer got dropped. They won't reveal anything that wasn't featured in the games already. The only thing that the anime showed before the games was the baby form of Terapagos but that's it, nothing else.
Cof cof solgaleo Is pokemon ash
>>57004307Ash never caught Solgaleo, it just evolve and left. The series didn't even properly shown its exclusive Z-move.
>>57001919Shitneys had already cheapened legendaries and turned a lot of them into worthless jobbers.Likoanime is just continuing what shitneys started.
>>57004329lol
>>57005277>Shitneys had already cheapened legendaries and turned a lot of them into worthless jobbersArticuno and Moltress says hi, do not forget Lugia as well.Legendary got cheapen for garbage OC like Liko, Lucius and Goh.
>>57004015woke nigger
>>57007687not true
>>57003483>Mythicalkys
>>57001919Ash had a mythical, an UB, and a super duper special “1 in 3,000 years fusion form” Froakie, as well as super magic aura powers only Sir Aaron displayed and being a chosen one. Liko having Terapagos is nice. It’s basically her baby at this point anyway. I liked the latest episode, and seeing seasoned explorers actually owning legendaries like Rayquaza/Zygarde/Terapagos like they should was a good change of pace.
>>57001919Are we just forgetting about the Nangandel
>>57004274For whatever reason I watched all of the Pokemon movies recently, and I’m shocked Diancie’s doesn’t get more praise. Out of the nu-movie formula it’s probably the one with the least amount of blatant fluff or filler, and there aren’t any wooden cotd expository types. Just Diancie being a mischievous Disney princess, her uptight butlers, and then the fun group of Lupin III rejects all fighting over her.
No one gives a fuck about the new anime. Low ratings. No one in the west talks about it. Literally anything that happens on this show doesn’t matter. Everything that happens with ash did matter. Thats the biggest difference
>>57008725>Ash had a mythical, an UB, and a super duper special “1 in 3,000 years fusion form” Froakie, as well as super magic aura powers only Sir Aaron displayed and being a chosen one.Ash was allowed to keep a mythical after he won a league and became a champion or else he would have released it just like he was forced to release Greninja and Naganadel. Ash wasn't even allowed to keep a Goodra for five episode until he became a champion. Liko doesn't even have any motivation yet she Litterlly got a Third Legendary pokemon handed to her because of her special bloodline garbage. The Chosen One title exclusive to English dub. Everybody has Aura in Pokemon world and Ash had nothing with Aura unlike Riley who looks like Sir Aaron and used Aura to build shield.
>>57008725>seeing seasoned explorers actually owning legendaries like Rayquaza/Zygarde/Terapagos like they should was a good change of paceYou mean self inserted trash with no personality who gets third legendary pokemon handed to them because current writers doesn't know how to write characters.
>>57008947>>57008961>Ash wasn't even allowed to keep a Goodra for five episode until he became a champion.LolLmao he never became a champion in XY. Do you even bother looking twice at the crap you're spewing before mashing it down? You must be seething really hard about it if you need to reply multiple times to cope with it.
>descendant of super legendary trainers that had super duper legendary pokemonYikes
So how did Anime handle the whole "time-travel/imagination" thing?
>>57002074>So when you ask me how I feel about it, I'll say it's done good taste.Cringe...
>>57008972>Lmao he never became a champion in XYMy point exactly Ash wasn't allowed to keep a fully evolved pseudo legendary pokemon for 5 episode when he wasn't a champion. Every special things that Ash received was on SM and JN series as part of damage control for Alain. While Liko who doesn't even have any motivation gets the strongest pokemon on Paldea handed to her though pure nepotism.
>>57009077The anime doesn't care about that, the current series only care about showing off their new OC to be better and more special than Game characters and past anime characters.
>>57009077so far, Terapagos' power is mainly just barrier
>>57003483Yeah his Pikachu is a Mew
>>57008735She chose to come back cause she loves pikachu.Soon as Ash won the league it fucked off back to its world.
>>57002195>assnime>kinoIt was in decline by Johto and completely dead by Unova you twat, nobody wants to see Ash Can't Ketchum fail for the 890th time. The entire series was hard carried by Team Rocket and even then there was only so much they could do
>>57001919It was a lot better than when Kieran caught it
>>57009610>Watching the anime for AshYou fucking twat. You're not supposed to root for Ash. You're supposed to root for the new trainers they introduce at the Pokemon League to cut ash down and put him in his place.
>>57003892>if all of their cards were laid out in Indigo Disk, there would be no mystery or intrigueWe already know though, it's a turtle mon with the power to have all the powers. The Laqua/Lucius shit is anime-only.
>>57002112>>57002093>BUT POIPOLE AND MELMETAL ARE MYTHICALSMythicals are included in legendaries. And even if they don't, OP is talking about terrapagos which is also mythical, so you are just playing semantics
>>57010938Teraapagos isn't a mythical, you stupid fuck. It's the box legend of ID, just as Ogerpon was the box legend of TM.
>>57009553
>>57001942You watched the show
>>57002195Based reply luring out all the likofags like moths to a light, keep it up anon
>white girl brown guy character duoIs Japan cucking now?
>>57011076So is Rowlet and Popplio female?I think Poipole is female for 3 reasons.One it becomes the Queen of the Hive.Two in communal species like bees and wasps 99% of the population is female.3 She absolutely loves touching and playing with Ash's Pikachu, a male, her affection very noticeable if not kinda clingy.Even as a Naganadel she was elated to have pikachu climb on her body even though she was now 4x's his size.This hints at stronger love then just Philla.This is why I think Poipole is a girl.
>>57011166>
>>57011216No, rowlet wears its medal under its bowtie, the girls wear theoir ribbons behind the UG symbol.Thus Ash's Poipole is male
>>57012436Other then the Medal cope, what else leads you to thinking the creature acting lovey dovey from a species explicitly designed after invasive wasps isn't female?
>>57001919Didn't Ash own Anime Nebby?
>>57012657Not officially he never put him in the ball
>>57009610Not according to TV rating where SM had same ratings as Precure. The rating in Best Wishes series were 10 times better than Horizon.
>>57008653
>>57012843You lost.
>>57001919>Don't catch a single legendary for your entire runNaganadel.Melmetal.Solgaleo.
>>57009610>The entire series was hard carried by Team Rocket Not even, that's just nostalgia. They were as bad as Ash because they were also victims of OLM not knowing what to do.>>57009077So far Terapagos only projects stuff from the past but could also bring Liko's ancestor at the lake temporarily, from the same timeline.Terastal wasn't connected to Terapagos yet and the paradoxes haven't shown up.So its time-travel, but no one has actually fully traveled through time yet.
>>57014056>Ultra beast>Mythical>Never caught, just befriended
>>57009077It hasn't. Terapagos has operated entirely on "it's connected to Laqua! :O" powers such as being able to nullify Laquium, or powers deriving from its memories.They even dodged the idea of having Terapagos act at the Crystal Pool, when that was the perfect excuse to still keep the technicality of "memory-based powers" to briefly pull in Lucius.
>>57002044Sun and Moon is kino
>>57002074God that nickname is terrible. It’s not even remotely creative, it’s just basically calling it the cry it makes. If the writers had to come up with a name for it, they could have put at least a little effort into it
>>57003892For me, I hate the thing because despite it being an essential part of the lore of Paldea and Terrastalization, about 90% of the time it’s basically a retarded cute mascot with zero survival instinct that can’t even effectively battle since it transforming wears it out after 5 seconds. And it’s such a waste having such an essential Pokemon tied to the current region having a story tied to something having nothing to do with Paldea
