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>locked behind a defunct, paid 3DS app
Why is Game Freak like this?
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>>57010313
BW2 truly were unfinished games
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>>57010313
>>57010337
>both demonstrably false statements
Why is /vp/ like this
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>>57010337
anon...
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>>57010348
Nothing OP said is false.

>source: I'm OP
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>>57010313
I just got xer in ultra moon, what did she mean by this?
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>>57010353
schizo…
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>>57010313
What did OP mean by this?
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>>57010357
It’s blatantly false. It’s catchable in ORAS, USUM, PLA etc. the reveal glass needed to transform is in every gen since debut IIRC
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>>57010388
>unobtainable
Retardbro….
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>>57010520
>fanfic item
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>>57010524
How is that a fanfic item? It’s in every main series gen. Are item evolutions fanfic evos now? Are you demented?
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>>57010544
>Are item evolutions fanfic evos now?
Always have been
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>>57010562
She doesn’t evolve by item DOEever
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>>57010568
>She doesn’t evolve by item
Hahaha trolled XD
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schizo thread
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>>57010578
>fanfic shit
she will always be a location-based evo albeit
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>>57010582
Well she's a fakemon so she can evolve in whatever contrived way you want her to.

Maybe she should get an even more beefed up form that can only be achieved if you level her up by a burning bush under a full moon after sacrificing her sisters and making her drink their blood in a demonic chalice
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>>57010523
>>unobtainable
You can't steal other people's pokemon
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>>57010523
>NOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT OBTAIN THE POKEMON THE GUY HAS BEEN SEARCHING 3000 YEARS FOR
>THIS GAME BEING WELL WRITTEN MEANS IT’S UNFINISHED BECAUSE…UH…SHUT UP!!!
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>>57010665
it literally is unfinished
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>>57010737
True. BW2 is literally unfinished.
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>>57010520
I'm supposed to believe Gen 5 OU players aren't conjuring the fucker out of thin air?
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>>57010608
Item evos existed since the beginning. Are they fanfic?
>>57010631
>>57010665
>it's someone else's
Bad excuse. The devs had control over this decision. It's still an in-game planned form that never got put into the game. Making a way to obtain another would not ruin the writing whatsoever.
>>57010769
How?
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>>57010665
Explain Light of Ruin being in game code
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>>57011066
>Bad excuse.
You can't steal someone's else pokemon
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>>57011148
>someone else's pokemon
The devs had control over this decision. They didn't have t make it one of a kind. It's still an in-game planned form that never got put into the game. Making a way to obtain another would not ruin the writing whatsoever.
You still didn't explain the battle code for it.
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>>57011157
Stealing other people's pokemon is illegal
> They didn't have t make it one of a kind.
Why?
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Why do you criminals want someone's else pokemon so badly?
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>>57011066
>Item evos existed since the beginning. Are they fanfic?
Crossgen evos are for sure
>max out Eevee's friendship during the day to get a psychic type Eeveelution; do it at night and it'll don an all new edgy type called Dark to reflect le darkness in your SOUL
>leveling up Eevee near a grassy or icy rock will evolve it into a grass or ice type evo for some reason
>max out Eevee's [legally distinguishable mechanic from friendship] to evolve it into gay new Fairy type
I'm really surprised that they didn't give it a fullmoon evolution in PLASS
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>>57011066
>The devs had control over this decision
They had control over making a well written story, yes.
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>>57011165
>Stealing
I didn't say that it should have been stolen. isa di the devs should have made it obtainable somehow.
>Why?
Idk, why isn't it obtainable?
>>57011199
Because the game's code proves it was supposed to be obtainable. DOesn't have to be his, just of the same species and form.
>>57011243
>Crossgen evos are for sure
What about all of them? Stop dodging the question.
>>57011250
And the story would have stayed identical if they made another way to obtain another individual mon of that form. Any excuses left?
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>>57011278
>I didn't say that it should have been stolen.
And yet you want someone's else pokemon you criminal
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>>57011278
>Because the game's code proves it was supposed to be obtainable.
Team star revavroom has a signature move coded in the game yet it's an unique pokemon you can't have because they already have a trainer that doesn't prove shit
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>>57011278
>What about all of them? Stop dodging the question.
All those silly mechanics and items they added in future gens to give mons new forms or evolutions are fanfic shit. All your Reveal Glasses, Mossy rocks, Magmarizers, Metal Alloys... Worthless fanficky macguffin shit. At least crap like Metal Coat and King's Rock have some use outside of being an evolution item for a single Pokemon.

>Oh, but what ab--
Pic related.
Save your ebin whataboutism for whatever middle schooler internet debate forum you came from, you damn tourist.
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She's so butthurt she's replying in three different threads at once
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>>57011326
based schizoposter
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This thread reeks of kierans
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>>57010313
>Why is Game Freak like this?
Because millions of idiots keep giving them money. Imagine for a moment that you run a successful business. Everything's going well, and suddenly people start complaining. Some of them have perfectly valid criticism, but they all keep giving you money. So why should you spend extra time, money, and effort to take unnecessary risks, if the people complaining still buy what you're selling?
>"But it's a kids game!"
Not an argument, your 6 million concessions have been accepted in advance.
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>>57011417
lol
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>>57010523
>>57010737
>>57011080
>>57011157
>scrapped content means a game is unfinished
by that logic 100% of games are unfinished. you're the same clowns who got mad you couldn't catch mew in base game red and blue without glitches or cheats. filtered btw
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>>57011472
i love this image i'm gonna steal it
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>>57011472
half the fucking region is missing
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>>>57004472
You never got your last reply btw
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>she
>fanfic (insert thing i don't like here)
>concession
Look at all these buzzwords... We just need tranny, s o i, seethe chud and we've got every single buzzword in a neat little package!
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>>57011472
There's a difference between an idea that wasn't implemented, an idea that had progress on it that when removed makes the game feel less whole, and literally cutting out a part of the game for DLC or a re-release. Xenoblade is unfinished not because spikes were implemented in a jank way, but because the removal of Bionis' Shoulder made a weird pacing gap in the game that even in the story is a little odd. There was a fucking epidemic of games in the early 10's where some of the DLC is literally on the disc. XY specifically is somewhere in between these two examples, as they clearly had an idea of what they wanted to do, had notes on it roughly to the level of notes for other things that made it into the final game in some form, and also had notes specifically saying to stop working on it to save it for a third version. Put simply, XY removed a segment of the game in such a way that it feels wrong without it, in other words unfinished. It's not like this is an unusual complaint either, it's true for Wind Waker as well.
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>>57011508
>We just need tranny
You're already here
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>>57011417
y r u based!
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>>57011297
>And yet you want
The form to be obtainable SOMEHOW, yes
>>57011302
You're right, that should also be obtainable somehow imo
>>57011315
>dodges again
So you think all eeveelutions, are fanfic. You also think Rauchu is fanfic. You also think Ninetales, Arcanine, Poliwrath, Cloyster, Starmie, Vileplume, Victreebel, Exeggutor, Eectrode, Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Clefable, and Wigglytuff are fanfic. Just admit it if you still have any balls to do so.
>STOP ASKING QUESTIONS YOU'RE JUST STUPID
Being a fence sitter won't get you anywhere in life.
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>>57011726
>The form to be obtainable
But it's not yours
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>>57011740
He doesn't own the whole form as an idea. He owns an individual no one's asking for. I want the form.
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>>57011743
>He owns an individual
There's more of them?
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>>57011749
There should be, yes. That's the complaint anon.
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>>57011749
It's not canonically one of a kind, anon. The flower's in ORAS. The move's code exists, so it was cut and isn't an individual.
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>>57011753
>There should be
How to ruin the uniqueness of a mon 101
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>>57011758
>It's not canonically one of a kind, anon.
Show me another eternal floette then
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>>57011759
>a form shouldn't be obtainable
How to ruin appeal of a game 101
>new mons should have spotlight taken by oldshit
How to ruin the uniqueness of a roster 101
Don't pretend you suddenly care about "uniqueness" anon
It was never said to be unique anyway anon. Allowing more individuals to exist wouldn't ruin anything that actually exists.
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>>57011770
>Show me another
Anon, you're more than two years old right? You DO realize that things can exist even if you don't see them, right? Or do you completely lack any object permanence?
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>>57011786
>Parroting
>>57011791
So where's this other eternal floette then?
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>>57011759
This is such retarded fucking logic. You should try directing the game.
>We want to make every pokemon species unique! This is an objectively noble goal
>Therefore, every mon should be an individual and be unobtainable.
I use this rule all the time. If it was applied even more and is a bad change, then it should not be dipping its toe in that direction at all.
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>>57011803
>Parroting
Seems like you didn't read the point of the post.
It was never said to be unique anyway anon. Allowing more individuals to exist wouldn't ruin anything that actually exists.
>Where's the other.
They exist, we just don't see them because the devs were lazy. Things exist even when unobserved. You know that, right?
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>>57011814
>Seems like you didn't read the point of the post.
All i read is seeing you copycat the 101 joke pretty unoriginal
>They exist
Prove it
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>>57011823
>I refused to read the part that actually addresses my post
So you conceded then. Nice. Thanks.
>Prove it
It was never stated to be an individual. It's literally just holding another flower and the mon changes color based on its flower. The flower popped up in ORAS so it is not extinct. There's your proof anon.
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I doubt anyone here actually cares about that fairy shitmon
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>>57011856
Where's the wild floette?
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This is the most stupid thread I've seen in a while over here.
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>>57011871
There doesn't need to be one for us to know nothing was stopping GF from giving us Eternal Floette. As I already explained, Floette exist. They literally just hold a flower which makes them chang color based on their flower. And now that we know the flower isn't extinct, and we know Floette are not extinct, Floette holding another fucking flower isn't exactly supposed to be unique like you claimed it was.
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>>57011912
That's what happens when sagetard starts posting
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>>57011918
>And now that we know the flower isn't extinct
>Posts a picture of one singular flower ever
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Classic Gamefreak coding whole-ass Pokemon and events related to those Pokemon only to scrap it all last second or just never distribute the event
See Gen 4 arceus
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>>57011920
Well no, OP and FP very clearly started off the thread at the absolute bottom of the barrel.
>>57011858
I don't obsess over it kek, but it's the principle. Cutting forms and moves that were essentially ready to go for no reason is pretty bad.
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>>57011928
That one singular flower is proof it isn't extinct anon. That's how proof works. Are you trying to say it's one a kind? Flowers don't work like that.
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Janny clean up this autism thread
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>>57011938
>it's not extinct bro it's just one singular flower in the whole world
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Why every single unova thread derails into kalos and every kalos thread derails into unova?
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isn't the whole thing with that one that it survived from the apocalypse gun
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>>57011947
Yes anon, that. one singular flower is proof that it isn't extinct. hat's how proof works. Are you trying to say it's one a kind? Flowers don't work like that.
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>>57011961
>Are you trying to say it's one a kind?
i clearly don't see any more of those no wonder eternal floette is one of a kind
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Oh hey another thread of pointless shit only retards pretend to care just to have something to complain about you guys sure are special
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>>57010830
I mean I wasn't planning to. I still have my legit Dream Radar install.
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How do I obtain Omegamon?
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>>57011967
>if I don't see something it stops existing even if there's proof it still exists
This is your brain on Kaloskekkery.
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>>57012041
Well i clearly don't see any other flowers they might as well be extinct
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>>57012049
>i clearly don't see any other flowers
Anon do you know how flowers work? If there's one what does that mean about the species' existence? Do you know how flowers reproduce?
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>https://vocaroo.com/132jzwvbWzPU
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>>57012050
>Anon do you know how flowers work?
Well for start they don't shoot laser beams therefore i won't apply real life logic while talking about pokemon
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>>57012057
That's the power of the pokemon, not the flower. Regardless, they're still clearly not extinct.
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>87 posts
>1 poster
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>>57012060
they removed the IP count months ago, xister.
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>>57012058
>they're still clearly not extinct.
There's one (1) singular wild flower they might as well be
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>>57010313
Just trade the genies and reveal glass from Legends Arceus like everyone else does.
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>>57011770
>Show me another eternal floette then
And then he never did
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>>57011928
>The northern white rhinoceros ... there are only two known rhinos of this subspecies left, named Najin and Fatu,[4] both of which are female; barring the existence of unknown or misclassified male northern white rhinos elsewhere in Africa, this makes the subspecies functionally extinct.
>Conservation status: Critically endangered, possibly extinct in the wild
The Eternal Flower would be critically endangered if it were a species, not extinct, but it's a mutated individual not a species. This would be like saying Andre the Giant is an endangered species since he's the only known Andre the Giant. Also I'm sad about rhinos now.
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>>57012066
No, that's not the case. Do you not know what extinct means? Also how did the flower come into existence? Are you postulating it lives for 3000 years and it's the last one? It existing in the present day means there's at least some population of it. Either way, this is the dev's shitty decision that you're using to justify yet another shitty decision. Your whole defense was "it's unique" when nothing has pointed to that. Tahts' your excuse for why they chose not to make it another obtainable form that had more than one individual of itself? This applies to the flower and the pokemon form itself.
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>>57010388
Whenever I see this guy all I see is Bark the Polar Bear from Sonic the Fighters
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>>57011726
>I've repeatedly stated in plain english that I think mossy rock, icy rock, magmarizer, et al only evolve a single pokemon and have no secondary usage making them fanfic-tier garbage
>"So you think all eeveelutions, are fanfic. You also think Rauchu is fanfic. You also think Ninetales, Arcanine, Poliwrath, Cloyster, Starmie, Vileplume, Victreebel, Exeggutor, Eectrode, Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Clefable, and Wigglytuff are fanfic. Just admit it if you still have any balls to do so."
>water stone, thunder stone, fire stone, leaf stone, and moon stone all have multiple pokemon that evolve through their use in their debut gen
Did somebody cave your frontal lobe in?

>Okay but now you need to admit (completely unrelated and utterly retarded nonsense) so I can win this imaginary argument that I'm having with myself!
Please, go back to wherever you came.
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>>57010337
>>57010353
>>57010388
>>57010523
>>57010665
this board serves no purpose tbհ
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>>57012073
Even if I did, you'd say tp show a third. You're not actually excusing the omission of the form whatsoever anon. The lack of it IS the thing that's being criticized.
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>>57012084
>Also how did the flower come into existence?
Ask AZ's mother
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>>57012092
>Even if I did, you'd say tp show a third.
But you never showed me another eternal floette to begin with
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>>57012081
>This would be like saying Andre the Giant is an endangered species since he's the only known Andre the Giant. Also I'm sad about rhinos now.
God damnit Andre the Giant is extinct. Fuck this gay Earth.
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Dumb pokemon fans below this post
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>>57012090
Anon it's a simple fucking question. I asked if you think all item evos are fanfic evos and you said "always have been". Since then, you haven't actually been willing to eat your own words and their implications.

Now you're shifting to moss rock for the leafeon when it's obvious you originally meant the leaf stone (moss rock isn't an item, remember?)
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>>57012094
Flowers reproduce anon. This doesn't change in the pokeworld. That means there's more than one.
>>57012099
But I showed you one, which is enough to say "they should have made this obtainable".
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>>57012120
>But I showed you one
You didn't show any floette
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>>57012112
Just admit you have an elementary school level reading comprehension and we can all go home.
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>>57012123
Retardbro, what Pokemon's in these images?>>57010353>>57010388
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>>57012131
>dodges yet again
>derivative of "you're just stupid lol"
Fuck off, fencesitter.
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>>57012134
>what Pokemon's in these images?
that's AZ's floette where in the original question i asked for another eternal floette you would know if you weren't a speedreader
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My clitty itches
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>>57012142
>that's AZ's floette
So one was shown. A second one is not needed to support the argument "this form should probably be obtainable in some way".
If YOU weren't a speedreader, you'd know that after I said "you'd ask for a third" (3), you responded with "you never showed me another" (2nd), and I responded with "I showed you one" (1).
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>>57012060
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>>57012141
>if you like the gen 1 elemental stones you NEED to like mossy rocks, metal alloy, and reveal glass because... Because I said so okay?
>"dodging" is when you try and clarify your argument to be easy for minors and ESLs to understand
>apparently "fencesitting" is when you like one simple evolution mechanic (elemental stones), but not a dozen redundant and contrived mechanics that get retconned or simplified in later gens because even the devs realized they were bad in hindsight
Fuck's sake. I really am talking to a middle schooler, aren't I? Your next move will be shouting "Moving the goalposts", right?
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>>57012152
All i asked was just seeing another eternal floette that wasn't AZ's just because someone thinks his headcanon of multiple eternal floette existing is true
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>>57012148
We know, DSbort.
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Does anyone here give an actual shit about floette or
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>>57012187
>statement I never said
ALl I said is that you said item evos were always fanfic shit. That's what you said no matter how much you sing about it now.
>clarify
No no, you completely changed your argument away from item evos like it originally was.
>you like one simple evolution mechanic
Again, this isn't what you said.
Either admit you fucked up or keep doubling down on your retardation.
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>>57012198
Yeah I think it'd be cool to have an Eternal Floette but just like that 100% Home Dex Magearna it'd just go in my box unused
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>>57012191
Right, so if there were a screenshot of ten of them and they all had owners, you'd call obtaining them unnecessary because there aren't canonically 11 or more. This is a circus. They never said it was one of a kind, and we know it was programmed and meant to be used at some point, so they aren't one of a kind. It's pretty fucking simple. There not being multiple IS the criticism at hand. You saying "there's only one" reinforces the exact criticism.
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>>57012198
LOL no
Floette here is nothing but an excuse just for complaining about toddler games
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>>57012200
>No no, you completely changed your argument away from item evos like it originally was.
If you want to play this painfully retarded game game, my argument was originally that the Reveal Glass was fanfic shit. And the Reveal Glass is neither an evo item nor an item. It's a Key Item for changing the forms of a trio of legendaries who were so unremarkable in their base forms that they needed transformations in BW2 to be worth giving a shit about.

So basically, you were arguing with yourself from the very beginning.
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OP here. I was more poking fun at the OU meta for Gen 5 being reliant on picks that you have to grind for outside the actual game. Like, who the fuck even has a legit Keldeo?
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>>57012259
>Like, who the fuck even has a legit Keldeo?
You get one from beating Swishy Swoosh Crown Tundra and catching the musketeer trio then making curry under a certain tree.

It's so absurd that you probably think I'm taking the piss.
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>>57010665
explain it being in gen 7 and HOME
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>>57012221(Me)
Looks like that shut him up kek.

Sorry for shitting up your thread, OP.
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>>57012221
>reveal glass
This was a closed conversation everyone understood what you meant by. Sure I might disagree but I knew where you stood on it. The difference is that someone asked you if you thought all item evos were fanfics and you said they always have been. There’s no circumventing that. I’d respect you a lot more if you just said “I didn’t mean all of them”. But instead you had this whole dance to save face to the point where it’s difficult to trust what you’re saying.
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>>57012422
>everyone understood what you meant
Seriously anon. Just shut up. This is pathetic.
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>>57012422
Just to try and put a bow on this shitfest, assuming you weren't the omegasperg that baited me in the start, let me just say this in my defense:

When anon said "all item evos", I assumed he meant sequel/nextgen items that serve no purpose other than triggering crossgen evos. Not the goddamn elemental stones in gen 1. And in hindsight I should've went straight for using Duraludon's Metal Alloy or the Magma/Electrizer instead of Leafeon & leafstone as an example, but y'know, shoulda coulda woulda.
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>>57012432
>>57012487
I want to be completely fair when I say it’s very easy to see someone who thinks “all item evos” does actually mean anyone that evolves with a baggable item. Also, if this bounty counts as “clarifying” that that’s not actually what was meant, it sure is the most cop out way of doing so as opposed to “I didn’t mean all and actually meant X”. Better late than never, of course.
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>>57012499
>it’s very easy to see someone who thinks “all item evos” does actually mean anyone that evolves with a baggable item
I've been on 4chan long enough to see people say that charizard is their favorite pokemon then call you a retard for not inferring that they really meant blastoise was their favorite. We can sit here all night discussing how I should've told off retard zero, but ultimately the winning move would've just been to have never replied to him in the first place.
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>>57012650
Fair enough, just be slightly (?) more consistent next time please



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