Should I get Scarlet? The main game looks bad but the dlc looks pretty good. Haven't played a pokemon game since BW2 btw.
>>57034591SV is an ugly buggy mess. If you don’t want to wait until 2026 for Gen 10 or next year for Legends ZA, I highly recommend Legends Arceus. It’s a very solid standalone game that should keep you happy til LZA and/or Gen10
>>57034607Thanks, I was between it and Arceus
>>57034591Fun game, Violet is the superior version though. Ignore the retards who highly recommend the awful garbage that is Legends Arceus.
>>57034591These are the best Pokemon games yet. In 10 years people will be calling these games the peak and Platinum, Emerald, HGSS and BW2 will be a footnote no one cares about.
>>57034612Fun, maybe. But also ugly as sin. Makes SwSh look beautiful in comparison. Legends Arceus is not perfect, but is a much better single player experience.
>>57034591I will never undersand people who claim these to be the best games in the series, much less better than the old games.It just feels like someone mashed the typical badge and evil villain team quests alongside a totem Pokemon quest but with none of the challenge that came with any of those things.The single player content feels like a means to an end, the end being getting players to endlessly shiny hunt/do raid battles/wait for the expansion content.I never played the DLC so for all I know Kitakami and Blueberry Academy are actually good, but the base game for these games was genuinely awful.
>>57034591Yeah, it's the best pokemon game. But if low framerates bother you, play on PC.
Gen 5 is a height that will never be topped again
Genwar thread >>57034650 <------ Genwar post
>>57034650Why'd you think I stopped playing them afterwards? I saw the writing on the wall when they started chasing gimmicks with mega evos. Just wanted to know if I could come back.
>>57034591The entire game is good
>SV thread >Unovafans come in and genwar out of nowhere Now i know where all sharteens come from in every single SV thread
>>57034591Nah. You're paying like $90 for DLC for a buggy mess of a game. My friend gifted me the game and I paid for the DLC and while fun, it doesn't make up for how bad the main story was and what a slog it was to get through it. There's things it does well, but I couldn't help but think (they really sold this unfinished mess for 60?) and that's from someone who didn't pay for the game. Overall, it just feels dead. There's nothing to really do in this "open-world". You're just walking to complete the next story spot. No interesting NPCs or areas, barely any trainers, there's no city that feels memorable even the multi-lift one just reminds you how bad the game is because it lags like crazy there.
>>57034591SV lacks a battle facility. This alone makes the game shit. It's the worst Switch Pokemon game imo.LGPE, PLA, SwSh+DLC and even BDSP despite the games flaws, are more solid Pokemon games than SV.
>>57034591You already want to spend 60 bucks for a 30 bucks dlc that is a 90 dollar refund experience. Lost cause, just buy it anyway, complain then complain they aren't getting better.
>>57034612Pokemon Legends Arceus >>> SVI prefer the old-school games, but between PLA and SV, PLA is definitely better imo.
>>57034718>battle facility.Literally who?
>>57034736No Battle Facility, no buy (except for LGPE because it's super cute even without the Battle Facility)
>>57034740This is the worst take I’ve seen in days
>60 dara>90 daraAre second hand shops not a thing in America?You could get Scat and Vomit at a Cex here in the UK for 35 quid which is what a brand new 3DS game would cost. You'd still have to buy the expansion pass but give it a couple years and they'll probably be even cheaper given how many copies would find their way into the wild.
>>57034740>Battle FacilityLiterally who???
>>57034591I fully recommend Scarlet. It's the best Pokemon game they've ever made and I'm not being facetious. I never once got a bug playing it so I feel like people are exaggerating based on the select instances they've seen online. I played on Switch and the most I got was some graphical stuttering here and there (mostly in Tagtree Thicket), but I got stuttering while playing SwSh and PLA too so don't let people mislead you about it being something only SV has. The amazing navigation, sense of freedom, and diversity of story content makes the game have a ton going for it, only to be continued in the DLC and a separate epilogue. The game feels really immersive with all the different habitats. And something that can't be understated is how much lore for each character they provide without shoving it in your face. If you want to learn more about someone like the nurse or a teacher, you can pursue that on your own and the game allows it through optional quests, unlike in previous games where you're railroaded. I will say my biggest gripe is probably with the art style of the humans since it's reminiscent of Pokemon Go which I don't care for, but for the Pokemon themselves they look great with the new updated textures. My previous favorite games were HGSS, then PLA, and now SV. I didn't expect PLA to be topped after such a long time sticking to HGSS, but SV blew my expectations out of the water. I can't even go back to playing PLA anymore after playing SV. The navigation is just a lot worse with PLA, where you have to keep opening the map to know where you're going. SV allows seamless navigation transitions since it's all on your one Legendary, and has the map right there on the screen already so you can know where you're going.I 100% agree with >>57034616 because these games feel like the kind of experience that will grow staunch defenders for generations to come. I didn't like DP or BW that much when they came out and now there are tons of people parading them.
>>57034747Your taste is shit then
>>57034754I don't know about it being the best game ever, but if I wanted to replay a Pokemon game I'd probably choose Violet, yeah. Sure it runs like garbage and more so than any other game but it's still a lot of fun.
>>57034591>nu-PokémonNah, you should get Xenoblade or Zelda instead. Switch Pokémon games are trash.
>>57034852>Switch games are trashftfy
>>57034591No. DLC is barely better.
>>57034591SV would be the best game of switch if it did'nt run like ass, unlike the other people here I find the two dlcs underhelming compared to the base game, I only find Indigo Disk good and that's because I find the terrarium and the apricorn ball machine good additions to the franchise.
>>57034591>hollow cardboard cutout towns with no interiors>ugly and grotesque troon character designs>shitty dex that looks like it was AI generated>ugly region that looks like it was made out of legos; no puzzles or anything to interact with in the overworld, just loot piles and pokemon>return of breakable tms just to shoehorn a shitty crafting mechanic or else the hideous maps would be even more empty>still no option to skip the cutscene and tutorial spam>removed the option to turn off animations>raids are even buggier and laggier than they were in swshit>no battle facility of any kind>removed the option to turn off exp share>removed the option to enable set mode>botched customization>still dexcut and movecut>removed shiny overworld indicators from pla>gym leaders and elite are all pathetic unless you tackle them out of order which just makes the shit you skip even easier>faggy and ugly bike legends that feel like shit to traverse onNo
>>57034950Nice copypasta where did you steal it from
>>57034950>troon characterObsessed and/or mentally ill
>>57034616lol no, these games have already aged like dogshit. they look and run terrible. replaying them is actually painful because of the cutscenes especially at the beginning . there’s no interesting content like the battle frontier to come back to. the way the game is set up makes them annoying to do autistic nuzlockes in. as soon as its online is cut, no one will give a shit about this turd game
>>57034977>interesting content like the battle frontier lmao
>>57034978>i don't like it therefore it's objectively bad!lol
>>57034979Who are you even quoting?
>>57034941If you honestly cared about framerates, you'd play on PC.
>>57034981>Troon obsesser retard calling out others for seething KWABBA DABBA DOO!!
>SV thread >is full of sharteens and trolls Why i'm not surprised?
Performance is spotty but in general it's a good time, a shiny Rayquaza is coming in Dec 20 so it's a good time to jump in
>>57034754thank you for talking sense, SV are great games by pokemon standards. I'll take an interesting buggy pokemon game over a boring "polished" pokemon game. I tried to play Platinum the other day, bored me to tears.Meanwhile I was able to play SV twice in a row no problem. Not even SM could manage that.
>2 dondonzo shows up on the map>game drops for 15 fpsjesus christ this shit is making me way more confident for my own game dev projects
>>57035288Nah, they’re shit games.
Way too many sharties here
>>57035288Can we please stop using "pokemon standards", what does that even mean?
>>57034984Having actual standards is not bad, SV runs at 10 fps anywhere and actually affects the gameplay but the faggots at GF never bothered to fix it. Despite that biggest flaw is the best game on switch but because the competition is actually worse, SWSH is shit game hat everyone made fun of it and PLA being a tech demo is the reason why people don't spam "quality animations" in SV unlike the previous gen.
>>57035317>Pokemon >Standards KEK
>>57035288Think I've beat emerald, plat, and black 2 at least twice each since scarlet released. I'll never touch gen 9 again, the game's an ugly, buggy, empty joke
SV are unironically the worst games.
>>57035334>SWSH worst games >SV worst games /vp/edo incels can't even make up their minds anymore
>>57035347SwSh: Worst games from a game design perspectiveSV: Worst games from a game design and technical perspective
>>57035347SWSH is a painfully boring slog that I would never play again, but at least it isn’t a bately functional tech demo for an open world game.
>>57035317it means that Pokemon is a low quality franchise that would be seen as an embarrassment if other nintendo games released games of the same terrible standards
>>57035378If it wasn't for pokemon i would've never bought any nintendo slop console
>>57035390and some people will only eat mcdonalds and never touch of piece of kale, what is your point?
>>57035414that pokemon is the best thing nintendo has
>>57035425I don't disagree but it doesn't change that pokemon games are way less polished than other major nintendo franchises
>>57034616It's embarrassing how poorly Switch games run. This game runs at a smooth 5 frames per second if you're lucky and you don't get a bigger dip. This game already aged badly the moment it got released.
If it didn't play like utter shit, I'd say yes.
>>57035480People said the same thing about PLA and look where we are now where there's constant PLA cocksucking and the newer thing is the fad to rag on (as always). In the context of the Pokemon cycle of old good new bad SV will age a lot better than previous entries have because it actually has a lot going for it despite its flaws, unlike past games.
>>57035528I wouldn't be surprised if it inflicts the same kind of nostalgia something like mario 64 does. In a decade gen C will be posting youtube videos about liminal and cool spaces in Pokemon Scarlet.
>>57034591I looked over at my friend who plays Violet and his switch still attempts suicide every time he looks at the big lake. I don't feel very confident in this game.
>>57034591Both Scarlet and Violet are ugly buggy disasters, unless you're like me (and most of /vp/) and swallow up any mainline game pokemon slop regardless of quality, don't get it. fpbp, get LZA instead. Cogita ends the entirety of Scarlet & Violet
>>57035347both games are just two cheeks of the same ass.
>>57035602>don't get this slop, get this slop instead because of [slop character]
>>57035602*get Legends Arceus instead. Sorry my brain went retard mode for a second
>>57035612Legends Arceus has a much better story, better visuals, is way less buggy, actually experiments with the generic Pokemon formula, incorporates both shiny pokemon being different in the overworld AND making the shiny sound when they appear, and then has Cogita who's a queen sooo... I fail to see your point anon
>>57035621>Legends Arceus has a much better storyWhat story?
>>57035621>better storyPLA has 1 story at best and SV has like 5+ stories >better visualsYou could say that the art style is better if you really want to excuse that harsh glare effect but it doesn't really make a difference if PLA is full of its own share of ugly characters anyway since you're looking at ugly no matter what>way less buggyAnd still buggy nonetheless with its framerate drops, graphical stuttering, clipping, etc>actually experiments with the generic Pokemon formulaAlola had no gyms, Galar had no E4, Paldea is fully open world, etc so it's not like they don't experiment, besides experimenting is not even necessarily a positive thing considering with PLA it entails catching some of the same Pokemon over and over
>>57035697Ok so does literally nothing happen in PLA? All the games have a story, whether said story is good or bad is debatable
>>57035621>Legends Arceus has a much better storytell me this is bait, tell me this is bait dear god
>>57034591As someone who's played base game but not DLC: I can't vote with confidence on its game. As much of a novelty Open World is, I don't think it does many favors for the game outside of being able to scrounge up a full team quicker than usual. Items and pokemon are just there lying on the floor of this big blobby mess of environments blending together. A good name or two instead of "Southern Province #63" would've helped just a bit. Since there's no reliable ingame guide to the proper way to progress (and good fucking luck figuring it out blind) and every major milestone can be sequence broken, "difficulty" is in the form of waltzing into high level encounters on purpose or by accident and not memorable bossfights with specific strategies in mind. And when you beat the gym out of order, everything behind it becomes even more laughably trivial than it should've been. I know pokemon's story mode isn't known for thought-provoking tactics, but even previous entries weren't blown apart as easily as this game, where a hard counter is a stone's throw away from capture. There's honestly a lot of pokemon staples that either got removed or neutered, like trainer battles requiring you to walk up to the twat and talk to them (because getting stopped by one would be worse in the open world), or how there's no more enterable buildings outside of gyms, or how your big lizard gets stopped by a GODDAMN SMOLIV EVERY 5 FUCKING SECONDS. All of this makes the campaign feel less like an adventure and more of a chore to get through.>go to art motherfucker, then go to bird motherfucker, then run to big boots motherfucker, swim to balding chef motherfucker, take a left to get to worm motherfucker, climb mt. Everest, slide down, zigzag, and do a triple somersault to crab motherfucker, rapper motherfucker, and ninja motherfuckerAnd so on. All of this and the game chugs like molasses after 15 minutes of gaming. I don't know, man.
>>57035740>SV has like 5+ storiesI'd rather have 1 good story over 5 shitty ones>PLA is full of its own share of ugly characters anyway since you're looking at ugly no matter whatI think a lot of the characters in PLA look better than the SV ones>Still buggy nonethelessOk? It being buggy doesn't negate that it's LESS buggy>Alola had no gyms, Galar had no E4, Paldea is fully open worldThe kahunas act essentially as gym leaders, and oh wow one (1) singular change how experimental, and Paldea being open world is cool, but at the cost of your Switch trying to kill itself because of that? Naur thank you. And catching the Pokemon multiple times in PLA is fun, literally the first game in years where "gotta catch em all" is possible + entertaining
>>57035756In comparison to SV? Yeah
>>57035797ok so it's bait, thank goodness
>>57035821>everything I dislike or disagree with is baitbeautiful
>>57035822it's even sadder if this isn't bait
>>57035794>I'd rather have 1 good story over 5 shitty ones>I think a lot of the characters in PLA look better than the SV onesSV literally won Famitsu's award for both best story and best character (Arven), which is plenty of credibility>doesn't negate that it's LESS buggyIf you're seeing bugs on both you're seeing bugs on both, it's like boasting you're SO much better off being a piece of roadkill with 3 flies on you instead of 5 flies on you>And catching the Pokemon multiple times in PLA is funNo it's not, it's a chore that degrades an adventure into busywork, sounds like you're just willing to overlook the costs associated with PLA's experimentation when the fact is it has plenty costs (including the elephant in the room of locking off the usual PVP)
>>57035854how so
>>57035860>Famitu's awardKhia awards>If you're seeing bugs on both you're seeing bugs on bothYeah I'm not negating that, if you're picking between two pieces of fucking roadkill, wouldn't you want the one with less bugs? I also don't even think PLA is comparable to roadkill, neither is SV. Slop is either bad or mediocre.>It's a chore that degrades an adventure into busyworkI enjoyed it, was able to find a bunch of shinies and not having to battle pokemon to catch them made it go by quick
>>57035860>FamitsuCould you remind me which Pokémon game got a perfect score?
>>57035621I'm currently playing PLA and having fun. At least PLA is a unique game (probably the only one of it's kind that Game Cream will ever make). SV on the other hand, is just the "new normal". The only thing SV has going for it is the novelty of the Open World, but people will forget about SV once Gen 10 comes out with another (probably better) Open World.Also PLA has a Battle Facility (Eternal Battle Reverie), while SV doesn't. So yeah, PLA is the clear winner.
>>57036249Anon I think you replied to the wrong /vp/tard, I'm in agreeance with you
PLA = no online battlesSV = online battlesSo yeah, SV is the clear winner.
>>57036313No no, I'm just replying to you to tell you you're right lolI avoided PLA for years because I don't like the action stuff (player thank damage from wild Pokemon, frenzied Pokemon, etc) but I like everything else about PLA, so I'm currently playing it :)
>>57036324Imagine caring about online crap
>>57036342yeah lol
>>57036342Even though I think PLA is better than SV, it DOES suck that it doesn't have online battles. The metagame would've been so much fun. Really a missed opportunity. But I think the game AND the metagame should be good, and SV accomplishes neither of those
