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>Pokemon was never about the graphics
>Pokemon was never about the story
>Pokemon was never about the gameplay

What the fuck was it about, then?
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>>57044064
Money
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>>57044064
It’s about clinging on to a reminder of simpler times and lashing out whenever you’re forced to confront that this series is mediocre at best.
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>>57044064
nostalgia bait and porn
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>>57044064
Porn.
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>>57044064
It's about you,
It's about me,
It's about hope,
It's about dreams,
It's about friends that work together,
To claim their destiny.

It's about reaching for the sky,
Having the courage,
And willing to try.

It's about never giving up,
So hold your head up,
And we will carry onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn,
SINNOH LEAGUE VICTORS
Pokémon!!!
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>>57044064
sexy pokegirls
which gen 9 lacks
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Is this game worth getting back into for battles?

I have a ton of teams from gen 8 that are battle ready and a fuck ton of shiny pokemon.
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>>57044111
No
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>>57044064
Collecting and connecting with people. Everything else was a conduit... except the money GameFreak made.
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>>57044111
most of the good mons in swsh got cut in sv. the two parts of the dlc was filled with complete shitmon like illumise and zebstrika for some reason
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>Pokemon was never about the graphics
true
>Pokemon was never about the story
good thing those games have good story
>Pokemon was never about the gameplay
good thing those games have good gameplay
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>>57044064
But SV had the best story so far, and the gameplay is good too. Only the graphics and performance are objectively ass.
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>>57044064
This may shock you, but Pokemon is about the Pokemon.
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>>57044367
>>57044379
samefag
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>>57044076
>i-it was always bad!
Yawny's final cope.
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>>57044380
So why'd they remove a bunch?
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>>57044396
Making game very hard, prease understand. Remember to buy both version and all the DLC.
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>>57044380
>Removed more than half in any given game now
>Most of the new ones are hideous
Shame they failed at that too
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>>57044367
>>57044379
>pokemon
>good story
Read a book that isn't written right to left and full of pictures.
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>>57044413
name 5 books
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>>57044389
Don’t need to announce you’re coping but I hope you get better
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>>57044064
fan theories and autism!
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>>57044100
Not everyone is an homo like you
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>>57044380
which is why pla and bw flopped so hard. the less pokemon the worse the game
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>>57044064
I got bored so fast, the Open World is just so barebones, the graphics, framerate and janky mount didn't help.
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>>57044413
You didn't play SV.
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>>57044367
>good thing those games have good story
Any Pokemon game people say has a 'good story' only has a good story relative to other Pokemon games. Would you honestly cite ANY Pokemon as an actual piece of great literature?
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>>57044515
shut the fuck up nerd
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>>57044484
No, and that doesn't change a single thing about what I said.
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>>57044484
I did. It's still true.
>B-but dying dog
>dead parents
No.
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>>57044380
If it was only about them spin-offs would be way better than mainlines as they offer different ways to interact with them
>>57044413
>>57044530
I swear to god pokemon is the only series where ""fans"" are angry when your games do something good (BW, SM and maybe SV)
>>57044515
>Would you honestly cite ANY Pokemon as an actual piece of great literature?
No, just like i wouldn't cite any fucking videogame in existence, that doesn’t mean that some games didn’t have good stories by RPG standards
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>>57044100
For me it's sexy old Pokemen
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>>57044599
sm only did things bad tranny
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>>57044064
Having fun.
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>>57044484
>SV
>good story
and im sure you think penny is a "girl" right?
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>>57044064
Pokemon was always bout dat BWC
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>>57044575
Not to mention, other Pokémon game did those better. Not amazing, but certainly better than SV.
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>>57044599
>its good because I'm comparing it to utter garbage
You're really smart.
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>>57044064
enjoying funny little guys
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>>57044616
Thanks. You are not.
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>>57044626
>he's brown too
kwab good luck
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>>57044616
>>its good because I'm comparing it to utter garbage
the utter garbage is the average rpg? lol
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>>57044648
Yes, the average rpg has a bad story and is full of cringe writing.
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>>57044075
FIBBY BIBBY
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>>57044599
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>>57044732
>weeb comic
lmao + kys
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>>57044732
DB > OP
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>>57044530
Yes it does. SV has a good story for a JRPG. It's obviously no Citizen Kane, but you'd be a retard to make such a comparison.
>>57044575
That's not what the story is about. Also disliking emotions is not a personality.
>>57044613
I don't care about your irrelevant tranny headcanons.
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>>57044800
I get the feeling you only say SV's story is good because your parents won't buy you other games.
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>>57044097
Lol
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>>57044800
>tranny obsesser
Based.
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>>57044064
>What the fuck was it about, then?
The gameplay you fucking idiot. Who told you it wasn't? That's literally the only reason people play it.
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>>57044800
>SV has a good story for a JRPG.
I mean, you're technically right. Because most JPRG stories are usually nonsense, comedic or vague or god forbid whatever kingdom hearts wants to be.
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>>57044800
>>57044899
>>57045019
You've literally never played another JRPG besides Pokemon have you?
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>>57044097
fpbp
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>>57045026
The fact that you didn't recognise a non-pokemon jrpg when it was mentioned says more about you than anyone else.
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>>57044899
I get the feeling you only hate SV because your parents won't buy it for you. Maybe this Christmas, bud.
Anyway, other stories being better doesn't make a good story bad. Dunno why that's such a hard concept to grasp.
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>>57044064
>pokemon finally have texture
>story and characters have some modicum of effort put in
>gameplay is same as it always has been but catching is now better because you can roam to find pokemon
idk man SV made everything better and people still complain
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>>57045026
Every DQ mogs all pokemon stories, final fantasies 1-6 are all better, Mario and Luigi games are better nintendo exclusives, SMTs are actually difficult compared to pokemon and still have better stories. Even mega man RPGs have better stories than pokemon.
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>>57045038
>no u
Why do brownies defend the new pokemon games so much?
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>>57045034
The fuck are you talking about? Just because I didn't up Kingdom Hearts after you mentioned it, doesn't mean I didn't recognize it.
And saying "lol KH is confusing" is such a lukewarm take, and only true if you haven't actually played any of games.
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>>57044075
>
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>>57045057
They don't realize the most profitable media franchise in the world *could* give them better, so they just choose to be happy with schlock. And because they're happy with schlock, Game Freak is just going to keep putting out more schlock that they'll still enjoy because they don't know it could be better.
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>>57045065
You should calm down and proofread your posts before sending them.
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>>57044064
child and animal porn
in fact I would go as far as saying a adult who still both plays pokémon games past the age of 20 AND does not masturbate to anything from it is a fucking idiot who is engaging with the franchise wrong
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>>57045075
>Minor grammar mistake
Wow, you sure showed me.
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>>57045086
You missed multiple words and don't know how a comma works. Stay in school.
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>>57045091
Hey, since you feel so smart about grammar mistakes on a board for JRPGs for babies, how about you learn what ad hominem means next?
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>>57045051
Bullshit, DQ is even more basic than Pokemon when it comes to stories, and the only good FF games story-wise before 7 are 4 and 6, ML are more childish and basic than Pokemon, SMT is just completely different you can't really compare them
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>>57045106
Why do you think I don't know what it means? I'm not having a debate here, I'm just insulting you for being so stupid.
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>>57045113
t. has never played DQ, FF, or SMT, and is only parroting what he's heard about them
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>>57045050
/vp/ doesn't actually play Pokemon. They just parrot opinions from their favorite e-celebs. And the e-celebs have been grifting hard on Pokemon for some reason. The games are only getting better but as long as grifters sperg out over funky looking trees or bugs that you'll only encounter on an emulator or from not installing the two years we've received of bugfixes, we'll have retards complaining about a game they haven't played.
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>>57045113
>FF7 was good
kek
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>>57045117
Instead of addressing the point (you not playing JRPGs) and trying to defend yourself by proving otherwise, you're attacking me because I left out a few words in my posts

Because that's easier than actually making a point, and you're a fucking child, a child with bad taste might I add since you're also unironically defending SV.
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>>57044389
But he's right. Every single gen had glaring problems that ruined the enjoyment to an extent.
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>>57045119
FF6 is my fav game of all time and the only one i haven't played is SMT but you can prove to me it's somehow similar to pokemon, also please tell me how DQ "you have to beat the evil monster!" or FF5 are better than pokemon
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>>57045134
>a child with bad taste might I add since you're also unironically defending SV.
I'm the one that said every pokemon game has a shit story. I can't tell if you're illiterate or extremely autistic.
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>>57045050
>>57045125
>Pokemon finally have texture
For starters, the textures look like ass. Each Pokemon looks blurry and like they didn't render properly . And textures aren't something to brag about since the goddamn Wii was able to make textures.
>story and characters have some modicum of effort put in
Again, what the fuck are you people on about? The characters are the same flat pieces of cardboard they've always been besides maybe two people, being Arven and maybe Kieran

>gameplay is same as it always has been but catching is now better because you can roam to find pokemon
Ah yes what fun, an empty overworld with jackshit to do, the towns are lifeless, and the Pokemon fucking stand there waiting for you catch them. What fun.
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>>57045151
I literally never said that, my post started here >>57045026, and you're still running from the point you child.
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>>57045051
>if I just name a bunch of series people will think I know what I'm talking about.
Yeah no. DQ has some abysmal stories especially 7, 9 and 11. 9 barely has a story since it's just
>Angel falls from heaven
>brits fuck him over and lock him away
>when he escapes he kills god
>girlfriend calms him down and they pass on
With wishes and dragons in the middle
FF6 is probably the most in depth story of FF without getting into retarded territory but 1 to 5 is basic, as much as Iike 3 it's probably the worst of the lot because of how xande, CoD and the dark world basically come out of fucking nowhere in the last 2 hours of the game.
SMT isn't particularly difficult if you just know how to read, the hardest part is probably demon negotiation since it's rng.
Story is a difficult thing to judge since they have multiple endings but the worst game in that regard is 5 as much as I like the game since it's just everything has already gone to shit, be the first to reset the world. You don't know shit about your allies and the final boss doesn't really change much on either path.
And I've never played the battle network games but if it's anything like the anime for it then it's just flat out retarded with mega man and Lan being biological brothers and they eventually matrix evolve Digimon style.

So yeah, good jrpg stories are hard to come by.
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>>57045177
ayup sounds like an improvement over all the previous games that couldn't even accomplish those things
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>>57045177
>arven and kieran are good
You're just as much of a slop eater as they are.
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>>57045065
>KH is confusing
Who said KH was confusing? Are you admitting you were filtered by it?
Anyway, the point is that KH's story is told through 500 different pieces of tertiary media which are all canon.
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>>57045190
>Angel falls from heaven
>brits fuck him over and lock him away
>when he escapes he kills god
>girlfriend calms him down and they pass on
And it still btfos every pokemon game.
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>>57045187
>gets directly quoted
>I never said that
kwab just kys and give your family a merry christmas
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Damn sounds like Pokemon has literally zero redeeming qualities
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>>57045192
Retard

>>57045193
I didn't say I liked them, just even applying his loose standards and give even the smallest credit it wouldn't be much.
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>>57045203
It really doesn't. At this point you should just admit you don't like Pokemon rather than pretending the story is bad.
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>>57045177
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>>57045201
Okay then, what's your issue with KH then with the story itself and not how its presented through multiple games? I'm listening.
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>>57045211
You still haven't said a single thing about pokemons story that is good, and you never will.
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You can tell they came from /v/ because they don't like any game
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>>57045205
>Still not addressing the point and using his headcanon to be dismissive
okay child
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>>57045219
???
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>>57045225
If they were from /v/ then they'd actually like a game, /vp/ doesn't like any
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>>57045217
Can you prove anything that was said wrong?
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>>57045231
>/v/
>liking games
funniest thing I've ever seen
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>>57045227
You're obsessed with the idea that you're talking to children. Really weird.
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>>57045177
>The characters are the same flat pieces of cardboard they've always been
You didn't play the game
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>>57045235
Because you're behaving like one. If you aren't, that's even more sad.
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>>57045242
You don't play any of them. All you do is sit on this board and bitch like the fat loser you are.
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>>57045244
>legitimately thinks he's talking to children
>goes out of his way to keep talking to them
Actual pedophile behavior. You 100% have a discord account.
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>>57045233
They like games more than /vp/ does
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>>57045232
I don't debate with people who parrot youtuber opinions sorry.
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>>57045248
Imagine being an adult and acting like this. Embrassing.
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>>57045252
How would you know it was an YT opinion if you don't watch YT opinons dumb dumb?
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>>57045254
Do you think that you aren't acting the same way? You made a dumb claim, didn't defend it, and threw a fit when you got btfo. Is that better than simply throwing out (accurate) insults?
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>>57045265
What else can I do? If my claim is so dumb and I can't defend it, surely he actually address it and disprove it right? I can't force him to defend himself and not resort to childishly petty insults
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>>57045050
This is a terrible take motivated by hateboner for Unova. If you include the postgame, BW has 414 Pokémon available. That's more than RBY, GSC, FRLG, RSE, DPPt, HGSS and even oddly Sun and Moon. The number of available Pokémon at time of BW's release would've been even higher at the time of release due to the Dream World. Red and Blue have the fewest of all mainline games (unless you include Colo/XD, in which case Colosseum takes that title), w/ only 124 Pokemon. Yet those games are the best selling Pokemon games.
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>>57045261
Based retard. You will not survive the war.
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>>57045297
I think you replied to the wrong post anon
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>>57045297
Sorry, it was mean for >>57044446, not >>57045050
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>>57045246
I played literally all of them starting the day Red and Blue released
And I'm not even bitching kek, I like the games
Cute projection though
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>>57045218
It's just fucking stupid. Take nobodies for instance, they're defined by their lack of a heart and emotions but it turns out they can regrow hearts and it doesn't take that long since KH 1 to 3 is only about 2 or so years.
Which just makes them regular humans conceptually that have to "heal" so to speak.
That also fucks with organization 13's motivation since a decent chunk of them just wanted a heart. Also once Xemnas was born he could have just made organization 13 out of his own hearts basically skipping all of the trouble with keyblade users.
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>>57045342
Fair enough, Org XIII after KH2 is pretty fucking stupid and Nomura just made that up as he went along because he wanted Roxas and Xion back

See? Was that so hard?
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>>57045342
>these characters go through a metric fuckton of trouble because they didn't realize that there was a much easier way to accomplish their goals
If you think that's confusing or convoluted or whatever, I wanna hear your opinion on Monsters Inc.
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sv is top 5 best jrpg story oat tbհ
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>>57045349
>>57045361
You're missing the point, it's not about the complexity of KH's story, it's pretty easy to follow, it's just a bad story.
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>>57045373
Meh. I thought Organization 13 was the most solid part of KH's plot.
>Nobodies want their hearts back
>Xemnas tells them that if they work for him they'll get their hearts but really he has ulterior motives for them
>the few nobodies who discover that they can actually heal and regrow hearts are killed off or given amnesia before word can spread
If these characters just appeared out of the aether already knowledgeable of the correct solution to their no-heart problem, then there wouldn't be any conflict.
But I'll admit I didn't care for the time travel and replica/clone stuff. God forbid some of the heroes have to accept the loss of a friend and move on, kek.
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play SMT anons
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>>57045919
I wanted to try SMT4, is it good?
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>>57045928
It's pretty good! Honestly it's the one I'd recommend starting with. SMT 3 Nocturne is generally considered the best, but I don't think it's a good starting point if you're just getting into the series. 4's not as brutal but it's still difficult enough to feel like SMT and the story's my personal favorite.
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>>57045919
The gameplay is boring desu
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>>57045349
>because he wanted Roxas and Xion back
I wonder if that’s even what he wanted at first, or if it was from fan demand. The way he describes things in interviews, he seemed surprised that the other protagonists ended up competing with Sora and Riku in terms of popularity. KH2 ends on a perfect bittersweet note that ties together all of its themes about identity and sacrifice, where Roxas and Namine, inherently incomplete beings that exist as “components” of a person’s character, can only be together through the lives of their completed selves. Xion was a bit of a weird retcon, but at least she also hammered those themes home and allowed people to experience the ironic tragedy of the nobodies in more detail. The fact that Nomura walked it back so hard not long afterward and decided to just bring literally everyone back (except replica Riku apparently, since he isn’t a character most fans cared about) is still wild to me, and it reeks of kowtowing to fan complaints at the time of how Sora “stole” Roxas’s chance at living.

I don’t think the “nobodies have hearts” thing is bad or really a retcon though, since even in KH2 they’re constantly upset over their emptiness and confusion, and clearly have emotion. The “we remember how it was to feel” or whatever they say in that game I thought was pretty clearly meant to read as a cope on their part. The most interesting thing about the nobodies to me anyway is that they were presented as unable to essentially coexist with their original selves, as their missing initial hearts would need their respective bodies back.
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>>57045942
Thanks anon
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schizoid post schizoid post
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>>57045919
Not playing r/Athiest slop
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>>57044064
The most popular games look like dogshit
Nobody actually cares about graphics.
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>>57046795
>game about gods where you can side with the judeo-Christian God and/or his teachings and smite demons as his messiah
>r/Athiest slop
And it just goes to show that people who hate pokemon don't play anything other than pokemon.
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>>57046866
Ok now show how many of those playthroughs lead to a good ending
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>>57044064
>removed set mode so text boxes keep disrupting battles
>removed the option to turn off battle animations
>removed over world effects of abilities like Synchronize
>forced EXP share
>dexcut
>transfer exclusive moves gone forever, the game forces you to forget them
>horrendous graphics
>constant lags and bugs take you out of any potential immersion, even in opening cutscenes there's awful lag
>still relying on shitty soulless cheese the game gimmicks for marketing (most other 3D games might have this flaw too but at least they have more good things going for them)
>SJW art style and character designs filled with faggots and trannies made to appease amerimutts, like Rika and Grusha
>no battle facilities
>botched trainer customization
>nerfing HP recovery moves to put emphasis on the "spam super effective move to win" philosophy that the game already way has too much of
>none of the buildings have interiors, even SWSH did a better job in that regard
>player models glitch the fuck out in online as shown in numerous webms
>no level scaling so the game might as well not have open world
>had to patch the game in order for pokemon to close their eyes when sleeping in battle despite the fact 3D games from other devs 20+ years ago, such as Stadium, didn't have a problem with this
>reducing the number of NPCs and Pokemon displayed in the over world is their solution to avoiding bugs and performance issues
>Pokemon in battle have less dynamic and slower animations compared to PLA, a game that was released BEFORE SV
>Convergent Evolutions and Paradox Pokemon are just a dishonest way for Game Freak to pretend they introduced a new feature even though it's the same thing as Regional Variants except with a different name, Toedscool is literally just a Tentacool recolor for example
>game ends with a scripted fight that you can't lose
>Toby Fox still ruining the soundtrack, bad soundtrack in general
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>worst overworld trainer battles in the series
>worst overworld trainer designs in the series
>every town almost exactly the same, besides maybe Levincia and Mesagoza it's all unmemorable, boring, repetitive shit with no unique design or appeal
>cutscene skipper only skips the fully animated "pre-rendered" cutscenes, you still have to slog through a ton of text and useless animations and fades to black
>following Pokemon still tend to lag far behind you and just go back into their Pokeball, and if they're too fast they catch up quickly, stutter and stop, and then resume when you get far away enough again
>removed overworld shiny indicators that were present in PLA
>worst player character designs in the series
>no options to skip tutorials like the catching tutorial
>sandwiches are tedious and glitchy
>raids are worse than they were in SwSh - they are slow and buggy, often forcing a loss
>raids can also crash the game due to missing item bugs, such as the Graet Tusk and Iron Treads raids
>Home support took forever because everybody at TCP and GF is incompetent
>worst Champion in the series
>GF is trying to be Bethesda without realizing that the company is only succesfull through singleplayer games modded to hell and back by users
>Pokemon center nurse gives you tips every time you visit
>Ride pokemon is slow
>Constantly running into microscopic pokemon in the overworld you cant see
>Breeding requires you to make a sandwich and wait in real life minutes instead of biking steps for each one
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>>57047403
>>57047410
Why are all but five only applicable to SS and not SV?
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>>57048573
>dexcut
>forced exp share
>move cut
>horrendous graphics
>shitty soulless cheese the game gimmicks (dynamax and tera)
>regional variants/paradox mons/any forms of old mons
>toby fox ruining the soundtrack
>worse battle animations than PLA
>cutscene skipper only skips certain cutscenes
>following mons is slow
things that apply to both games
>removed set mode
>removed option to turn off battle animations
>nerfing HP recovery moves
>no battle facilities
>limiting trainer customization to the point in which you can barely change clothes and it's pretty much only hair and headwear that can be customized, you're stuck with that ugly uniform
things that only apply to SV
>transfer exclusive moves gone forever, the game forces you to forget them
I thought SWSH did this but I can't remember, but I know for certain that SV does it
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>>57048732
>>nerfing HP recovery moves
You know, I just looked through the healing moves and all of them functioned as they did before in gen 9. So what exactly did they nerf?
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>>57048737
YAHOO
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>>57044064
>>Pokemon was never about the graphics
>>Pokemon was never about the story
>>Pokemon was never about the gameplay
You never complained about these back then you have no right to complain about these now
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>>57048891
I never complained because Gen 5-7 were great in all those aspects
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>>57044064
Catching em' all. Which you can't even do now, thanks dexit!
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>>57048931
>Shitty american-only slogan is what the series is about
lol
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Didn’t like Sword but want to give modern Pokemon another chance. Should I get Violet or Arceus?
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>>57048877
PP
Recover clones went 10 to 5
Wish didn't change, probably because it takes more than one turn to work
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>>57048988
you should get scarlet
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>>57048988
Violet, Arceus is dogshit
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>>57049177
>let's take misdreavus and do nothing with it except slap spikes and feathers on it!
paradox mons
truly a mistake they were
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>>57044064
idk but SV is at the top in terms of gameplay and story
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>>57049195
no it isn't. The gameplay cuts more corners than any game in the series so far. It to the lengths to cut set mode and the option to turn off battle animations while also not fixing many flaws from previous 3D era games
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>>57049205
The gameplay is almost the same except it's actually fun to look for Pokémon now
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>>57045306
What happens if you know the enemy but not yourself?
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>>57049170
Then it's not a nerf.
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>>57050549
how is being able to use a move fewer times not a nerf?
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>>57050559
No, not really. If it nerfed effectiveness then it would mean something.
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>>57050670
It's one of the more significant nerfs of the generation, the fuck are you on about? Defensive Pokemon have way less longevity because their main method of healing and sustain doesn't last as long.
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>>57050870
Almost as if that's by design to not have VGC be too cancerous, yeah. The bonus is pissing off smogonnigs to the point they bring their autism up on unrelated websites.
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>>57050888
Defensive mons that spam recovery moves aren't really that good in VGC, though? Super passive mons that are used traditionally for stall in singles get mollywhopped in doubles, so it only makes sense if done from the perspective of singles.
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>>57050549
it is literally a nerf
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>>57050921
Except Tera negates trad type matchups and tera normal Dragonite with 10 roosts would likely be a right cunt to try and take out.
But again, I'm looking at this how Game Freak likely think and they consider all aspects for things. Not my fault smogon wants to hold onto 2014 eternally.
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>>57050941
Even with unnerfed roosts tera normal Dragonite isn't as strong as it was in the earlier SV formats because of the prevalence of fighting types like Iron Hands or Urshifu.

I don't think smogonfags really think negatively of the nerf either. It's significant in singles but that doesn't mean it's overall bad. It makes stall less braindead by introducing some form of PP management. From what I've seen most people are generally okay with it.
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>>57049170
>NOOO DONT NERF MY UNFUN STALLING CANCER
Really nigga?
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>>57044064
The friends we battled along the way.
>Pokemon was never about the story
>Pokemon was never about the gameplay
I do think it was somewhat about these though. The rock-paper-scissors battling with your favorite, powerful dudes is good gameplay.
The story in RB was good. It wasn't at the forefront, but helped you progress the game in a fun way.
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>>57050979
like I said before, this nerf means gamefreak is trying to put more emphasis on the "spam super effective moves to win" philosphy that already plagues the games way too much. i am not saying full offensive strategies need to be made obselete and entirely replaced by stall, but i do think defensive pokemon need to be just as strong and viable as offensive pokemon. when the game leans way to heavily to one strategy (full offense right now), then it becomes monotonous and boring. there is nothing wrong with slow bulky bulky pokemon that rely on residual damage to defeat enemies and can easily recover HP. it makes the game more diverse in terms of strategies. why do you think stall and defensive stratgies are bad? do you really think the game should be filled with nothing but fast frail attackers?
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>>57053625
You can be strong defensively without healing. Defense should focus on damage prevention, not healing.
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>>57054810
Smogon banned evasion set-up though, so they HAVE to focus on healing.
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>>57054831
>Smogon
Ok
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>>57054831
Yeah because defensive play would be even more unfun and cancerous without it banned
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>>57044064
I wish Pokemon went into a different direction,more story focused with an emphasis on trainer/pokemon interaction,instead we got a collectathon with pokemon existing as souless props.
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>>57054810
defensive pokemon can only get so far without hp recovery methods. what else are they supposed to use? only fast frail offensive mons can get away with it because their goal is trying to brute force their way through everything hoping that nothing on the opposing side will ever touch them to begin with
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>>57054851
Did you play SV?
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>>57054915
Yuh,playing it rn
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>>57044064
>>Pokemon was never about the gameplay
No one says this. Pokemon was always about the gameplay, that's why SV sold, because it's the core gameplay with the latest twist, and everyone likes that.

Comparatively, gen 5 sold like dogshit because it was not about the gameplay (or graphics, or story, or sound) and just rehashed what gen 4 did without adding anything meaningful.
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>>57054927
no, SV isn't about the gameplay, it repeats most of the same mistakes as SWSH. it sells because retards buy it anyways, which is also what happened with SWSH
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>suddenly unova
14 years
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>>57054946
14 years and still worst selling mainline lol
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>>57054918
Well, I'm asking cause I felt the same until I completed SV, that's the first time I ever finished a mainline Pokémon game and was satisfied with the story
Hope the same will happen to you anon, have fun
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>>57055140
Hope so,there's still a lot to do since I only just completed the first gym.
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>>57044429
>no u

>>57045141
Not the extent of gen 8.
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>>57055528
holy shit, the character models in this game are ugly
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>>57055832
You been living under a rock?
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>>57044064
The gameplay is the only good thing though. Tera is the best of the gimmicks, although I still prefer Gen IV/V for pvp.
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>>57055847
this isn't my first time seeing them of course, I just like pointing out how shitty SV is
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>>57055896
It's a shame cause as a game it's pretty fun
I can't even say you get used to it cause even after playing it for hours I would still sometimes think "man this looks like ass"
Good thing that I pirated it
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>>57044064
The Indoctrination
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>>57050870
>Defensive Pokemon have way less longevity because their main method of healing and sustain doesn't last as long.
NTA but defensive pokemon die long before they use the all their pp.
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>>57055832
Yuh,not sure if they fucked up the models themslves,or if the switch to 3D was just that bad for Pokemon as a whole.
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>>57059631
It's mostly the lighting/shader, they look fine in Masters
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>>57059695
They're something else that's for sure
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>>57045177
Textures are great. Its lighting that sucks.
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>>57045177
You think they are blurry now wait till the switch 2 and all the post processing gets added in.



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