Vileplume made it onto the S/V OU Viability rankings, friends. Victreebel is seething.
>>57076858So that's the power of ababor huh
>>57076858ababorbros... we won
Don't care, VictreeGOD is better in gen 1, the only gen that matters.>but no one plays genwu-SILENCE.
>>57076867>>57076868
>>57076878SHITren posters have no taste. Gen 1 sucks ass because the only thing differentiating your Pokemon from their Pokemon is the moveset. There aren't any abilities, EVs, natures, or even held items.
>>57076888>Bro that sucks shit
>>57076878no one plays gentoo
>>57076858>OU has gotten to the point where Azumarill, Jirachi, Mimikyu, and Talonflame are considered weak as shit in the tierAbsolutely dire.
>>57076858This is incredible, folks.
>>57076914But Gen 3, however...
>>57076917to be fair talonflame got hurt really badly by the unjust gale wings nerffree my bird nigga!!!!1!1!!!!!!!
>>57076858shit dev favorite mon is actually getting stronger. maybe it'll get another new move next gen! vileplumefags are as insufferably smelly as their pokemon
>>57077040Would it be OP if the Gale Wings nerf was reverted? I think it'd probably end up in RU or UU.
>>57077058All it needed was Strength Sap. Run Liquid Ooze if you hate it so much.
>only 8 Pokemon in that list that are actually coolPathetic
>>57077103boots might help it out but the higher power level of OU compared to gen 6 will counteract that bonusalso there's a bunch of good rock, water, and electric types in OU and it doesn't have a legendary statline like Moltres so I think it won't be used that frequently in OU but it'll definitely have a good chance of making it in UU or at least RUI think it'd only be considered truly OP if it's ubers (lol) or at least very high ranking in OU
>>57077153>arcanine-hisui>basculegion>cyclizar>iron jugulis>jackie chan>kingdra>necrozma>sandy shocks>talonflame>vileplumenuh uh
>>57077103Talonflame isn't even OP in ORAS and that's the gen where Gale Wings wasn't nerfed and the overall power level was less extreme. HDB can only do so much. It doesn't actually hit that hard and can't do much beyond clicking stabs + wisp. Wouldn't be bad and probably see some usage on certain offenses but far from overpowered.
AbaborCHADS won
>>57076858>Ababor (form 3) is on the same level of power as JIRACHI and NECROZMAlmao
>>57077217>>57077182It's not just boots. It's now one of the few Defog users in the game, and one of the few that Gholdengo can't safely switch in on because of STAB Flare Blitz>212+ Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gholdengo: 318-374 (100.9 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKOIf it had proper Gale Wings it could do more than just provide Defog support while also being one of the few Defoggers that are viable in the face of Good as Gold.
what the hell does polteageist do
>Be gamefreak >Create a grass type move with 130 of base power >No downsides >STAB >30 PP What the fuck was gamefreak smoking while creating ababor?
>>57076858Vileplume @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Effect SporeEVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpDIVs: 0 AtkTera Type: Dragon / FairyBold Nature- Sludge Bomb- Giga Drain- Strength Sap- MoonlightSo she sucked everyone to get there?
>>57077472Shell Smash + Stored Power + Shadow Ball + Tera Fighting
>>57077547i always forget it gets shell smash
>>57077534She sucks on Kingambit, Ogerpon-W, and Zamazenta, 3 of the top 10 Pokemon in the format. Pretty reliably too. She even sucks Dondozo, certain types of Great Tusk, and Meowscarada, but those are lesser threats.
>>57077466The problem is if you want a defogger you're probably just better off running a defensive Flame Body set. Most Gholdengo's that aren't scarf run some kind of bulk so not even a guaranteed OHKO but obviously still scares it from switching in. Roost, Brave Bird, Flame Body and Defog is weird because with your EV spread you're running an offensive set but you have no way to cripple anything with Wisp and you can't boost either. What the fuck do you do against Ting-Lu? Or Gliscor? Or Rocky Helmet Landorus-T? Alomomola? Zamazenta needs one Iron Defense boost to wall you barring lucky Flare Blitz burns and Sucker Punches your fire move and doesn't care too much about Brave Bird. Completely free setup for Garganacl. Glimmora comes in and sets a layer of Toxic Spikes for free just for getting hit. Moltres doesn't care much and U-Turns out. Zapdos comes in relatively unscared as well. Raging Bolt resists both your stabs so that's a scary switch-in as well. Then there's more niche stuff like Dondozo or Tyranitar. Priority Brave Bird would be nice for revenge killing Iron Valiant, Ogerpon, Iron Moth, maybe some offensive Zamazentas (have to watch out for Stone Edge however), some weakened Roaring Moons and the likes but lots of unfavorable matchups in OU right now and that's the meta right now where people are only prepping for Moltres. You'd better assume in a meta with Moltres and Talonflame stuff like random rock coverage would be more common.
>>57077481>No downsidesStuck exclusively on a shitmon is a downside.
>>57077583>OU >Shitmon ????
>30 posts into a Smogon thread>No one complaining about "muh fanfic meta"Has Yawnfag really given up?
>>57077597Maybe the real fanfic was the friends we made along the way
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/ababo/
>>57077614I prefer Jumbao
>>57077608I would never call Yawnfag my friend. I wouldn't even piss on him if he was on fire.
why is half the thread talking about ababor? what the hell is it?
>>57076858As Gen 9 goes on, I've come around to respecting it. As wacky as the power levels are, some unique Pokemon have carved out a genuine niche because they shit on particularly oppressive Pokemon like Kingambit, Raging Bolt, or Zamazenta. IMO, at this point, I think4 > 3 > 5 > 9 > 6 > 1 > 7 > 8 > 2
>>57077667>He lacks the requisite knowledge
>>57077693thanks for the spoonfeedunfunny, mostly uninteresting thread now that i know though
>>570776706 is the best team preview gen. Like every gen it has its problems but it has a surprisingly varied range of different teamstyles and you can get away with a lot of niche picks on the right team. Also has a lot of innovation in recent years with stuff like Cofagrigus becoming a staple, Volcanion becoming the most used fire type, people running stuff like bulky mega Gallade and so on. Nothing feels truly unstoppable or suffocating although I really do wish burn was less broken and Serp Glare wars aren't exactly fun either.
>>57077709I think it's got too much anti-fun shit. Like you said, Serperior is anti-fun in Gen 6 especially. Clefable is also a huge pain in the ass. Not to mention Amoonguss and the other Regenerators. The longest Showdown game in history was in Gen 6 for a reason.I think it's much better than 7 or 8, though, particularly because it lacks Toxapex, Heavy Duty Boots, WishPort, FuturePort, Kartana, and Z-moves.
>>57077746>The longest Showdown game in history was in Gen 6 for a reason.QRD or replay?
>>57077746Gen 9 has more anti-fun shit. Kingambit is the peak of anti-fun, Gholdengo is pretty anti-fun, Garganacl too, Spikes Gliscor, fat Unaware shits, Regenerator is pretty prevalent too with Glowking and Alo.
>>57077770https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49tsEEx7EqMQRD.>But it's 12 minutes longYeah, and that's still 1/35th the duration of the replay
>>57077784The recovery nerf from 16pp to 8pp really helps keep the cancer in check. Instead of a 190 turn game against a stallfag it ends up being a 95 turn game. Kingambit has become much more manageable because of Zamazenta, and Gholdengo has much more viable counters.
>Muk got unrankedWhat was Muk doing in the D ranks anyway?
>>57077830It was used on Stall with Sticky Hold to be a Knock Off absorber. Particularly one that shits on Valiant.
>>57077830Stall pick with Sticky Hold https://pokepast.es/87f7fbd62bff1386
>>57076858Kingdra bros were so back
>>57077839They were. Now they're not.
>>57077830>>57077832>>57077833Today I found out that Sticky Hold actually prevents the damage boost from Knock Off turning KO into a regular 65bp move.
>>57076858isn't mimikyu extreamly common in BSS how is it only RU?
>>570779106v6 is a different beast from 3v3. Your 1 free hit isn't going to take you as far when your opponent has twice the amount of Pokemon to deal with you.
>>57078031same goes for rocks no?
>>57078036Sneaky pebbles, like all entry hazards, becomes more and more impactful the longer a game goes on. The reason hazards aren't used in VGC Doubles is because there'll be at most 6 - 7 switches a match so the impact isn't as great.Switching is more prominent in 6v6 Singles than any format because you have a lot of options to choose from and the opportunity cost created by switching is lessened. Thus you have more impetus to switch meaning hazards will have more chances to activate.
>>57077910For starters, 3v3 formats play very differently than full 6v6 formats; battles are shorter, switching has more options, and it's easier to cover mons' weaknessesAnd that's not counting the different banlists between formats
>>57078108The allowed Pokemon list makes a big difference. Jirachi, Celebi, Mew, Zamazenta, and Manaphy are legal on Smogon but cannot be used on cart, among other differences. In exchange, BSS has legal Palafin, Annihilape, Shed Tail, and Espathra.
>>57077839It's so funny that Kingdra was outclassed as a Mixed Rain Sweeper by fucking SEISMITOAD. It took Toad getting removed for Kingdra to regain any relevance.
I like bans.
>>57077614Ababo cannot use ababor thoughever
252+ Atk Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Vileplume: 187-222 (52.8 - 62.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO0 SpA Vileplume Ababor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kingambit: 428-508 (125.5 - 148.9%) -- guaranteed OHKOOU bro sucks shit
>>570777931287 isn't that bad. Now if it lasted for 1297 turns I'd be complaining.
>>57076858Necrozma my beloved
>>57077597only like 2 posters in all those posts give any indication whatsoever that they play the gamenobody cares about OU anymore
>>57076858>Vileplume made it onto the S/V OU Viability rankingsBASEDim sorry victreebel :(
>>55071784methinks its the skintight suit, the loose belt, and the bratty hair, as well as them being evilly sexy
>>57076894>movesetand typing, BSTS and stat totals and movepool combs. Also Gen 1 had very few mons so standing out is pretty easy to do in Gen 1-3 and most of 4.
>>57076867>>57076868>>57077379>>57077454>>57077481>>57077667>>57077693>>57078567>>57078580He meant to type Absorb>oddish uysed absorb!
>>57079724252+ SpA Tera Grass Oddish Absorb (60 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Golurk: 244-288 (76.4 - 90.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>>57076858Shitmazenta needs to get banned asap
>>57079972Zamazenta is necessary in the tier to handle Kingambit. IMO it's easier to deal with than Kingambit too.
>>57079986I never use zama and gambit is not a problem most of the time as it doesn't restrict teambuilding that much aka plenty of mons beat it or at least put the next mon in the position to do so. On the other hand a handful of mons beat zama and I'm tired of running them all the time (birds, ghold, glowking, valiant which don't beat it depending on its set and hax to be honest)Kingambit can also be beaten by outplay and encore but IDef 138 base speed box legend beats you unless you have the same old boring tools. Mind you that I spam Valiant a lot but a smart player knows how to force its booster and heavy slam it next time
>>57080007Kingambit is way more restricting than Zamazenta. Zamazenta you can take care of with status and smart play. Kingambit puts huge pressure on you in the end game with Tera. You can still eke out a win by guessing the 2 coin tosses correctly, but there's very little you can do if you're not carrying the small handful of bulky Fighting or Fairy types that can eat Sucker Punch/Kowtow Cleave. Terastallization also makes it an absolute cunt to deal with because you know it's running Tera Flying but you don't know when or if it is gonna Tera meaning you can't just throw out a Close Combat or EQ willy nilly. Zamazenta always has a fatal flaw to exploit no matter the set. You can Toxic the non-Steel-Tera variant or Burn the non-Fire-Tera variant. You can force it out and it loses its ability for the rest of the match. Strong special attacks leave lasting damage on it unless it's the ChestoResto variant since it has no viable way to heal outside of Rest. It also doesn't hit hard with any move besides Body Press.
>>57080129>has more ways of getting dealt with>more restrictingyou are on crack. >Zamazenta you can take care of with status and smart play.same for Gambit and any mon in the game that's not clearly Ubers tier>Kingambit puts huge pressure on you in the end game with Tera. endgame zama as well>there's very little you can do if you're not carrying the small handful of bulky Fighting or Fairy types that can eat Sucker Punch/Kowtow Cleaveuntrue, don't act like +0 gambit sucker OHKOS most OU mons, it doesnt. Also you have counterplay to that in encore, status moves, predictions>Terastallization also makes it an absolute cunt to deal with same for zama>Zamazenta always has a fatal flaw to exploit no matter the set. Zama having multiple sets is an argument for its brokenness, not against. Of course set x is beat by y, but this implied variance is what makes it 10x scarier than a one trick pony like gambit. If i have a Tusk or another mon that beats kingambit and i preserve it, i know that I'll win most of the time. On the other hand I'm completely at mercy of endgame zama as my Moltres will die to stone edge or lose to tera fire, and my valiant will lose to tera steel slam. Which one should i preserve if I don't know the team?The way zama can flip a matchup on its head depending on the set is what makes it broken and makes me mad. If you have a decent team and some brains, you almost cannot lose with endgame zama in the back
>>57080165>don't act like +0 gambit sucker OHKOS most OU mons252+ Atk Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Moth: 292-345 (97 - 114.6%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO252+ Atk Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ogerpon-Wellspring: 225-265 (74.7 - 88%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock252+ Atk Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 390-458 (121.4 - 142.6%) -- guaranteed OHKOKingambit actually does have a good chance to OHKO a large chunk of OU with some chip damage or hazard chip. 5-mon Supreme Overlord is effectively a +1 boost on a Pokemon with 135 base attack. >same for Gambit and any mon in the game that's not clearly Ubers tierGambit is immune to Poison before Tera. Zamazenta isn't immune to any status before Tera.
>>57079972Zamazenta is fine. I hope he stays and Palafin and Annihilape drop.
Gen 9 sucks so much bros Still better than gen 8 doe
>>57080423Actually fixing it would take a Herculean effort and a banning spree. A good 1/4th of OU would need to go before it becomes good. I think it's hit a relative peak where banning any singular Pokemon will make it get worse until you ban enough for it to get good.
i hope the ababor meme never dies
>>57080504Your meme sucks shit.
>>57080539you have to go back
>>57080539>T. Golurk
>>57080553Go back where? The meme is from here.
>>57078336Wasn’t Seismitoad used because it learned Weather Ball(Hydro Pump with perfect accuracy in rain), which Kingdra didn’t learn until next gen?
>>57080586Exactly. You don't belong here
>>57079724>uysed
>>57077103Talonflame would've fallen to UU in Gen 6 if it weren't for low ladder shenanigans, and an unnerfed Gale Wings wouldn't even improve it in the current year. It's essentially a mini-Moltres now and is only used on stall. The only difference between them is Talonflame is faster and can get rid of hazards, while Moltres is bulkier, more powerful, and can phase.
>>57080684As a Rainfag for the past decade, I can tell you exactly why Seismitoad was used over Kingdra:1. Electric immunity. Enough said.2. Huge movepool. Weather Ball, as you said, as well as Earth Power, Grass Knot, Sludge Wave, Icy Wind, Stealth Rocks, Knock Off, Toxic, Earthquake, Power Whip, Liquidation, and Ice Punch.3. Stealth Rocks resistance. Spikes weren't very common in Gen 8 because no Gholdengo and anti-hazard options were everywhere. Stealth Rocks were cheap one-and-done hazards and thus were incredibly prominent. Resisting SR was huge.4. Because of all of the above, Toad could feasibly use a Life Orb set to boost both of its stats and not fear dying to chip because it only takes 6.25% from switching in on pebbles. The immunity also gives it an easy entry point on Electric types. Kingdra couldn't make use of LO without running the risk of dying from repeated switches and attacks.
>>57076858Victreebel is a surprise pick in RBY OU, so VicCHADs still win!>>57076878This
>>57076858>Viability rankingsTHIS is unironically one of the worst parts of Smogon right now. The site was created to be a usage-based tier system, but the backroom (lol) is too obsessed with their own opinions on whether or not shit is good. If a Pokemon is within a certain tier but they don't think it's good enough, you'll be banned for posting about it. Literally happened with Ambipom.
>>57081348VRs are actually very helpful for team building because you can determine what are the top threats to build around. Also, it's not as common these days, but back in Gens 4 - 6, it was actually pretty common to see shitmons in a tier above their paygrade because retards kept using them. Usually it was fan favorite Pokemon like Jolteon or Donphan being used in a tier that was incredibly hostile to them which prevented them from dropping to the tier below where they could've been really useful.
>>57081326>>57081320>>57081315>>57080729>>57080727It's not funny.
>>57080293That's the best you can do? 3 mons of which 1 is weak to dark is a good chunk? You won't find a single OHKO in OU aside weaknesses. moreover against Oger is a 50/50, Moth either has 124 HP for booster speed and substitute sets aren't uncommon.The last paragraph I wrote about how zama is broken because unpredictable contrary to gambit was the most relevant one and you didn't even address that, i accept your concession.
>>57081482>It's not funny.
>>57081482>T. Rhyperior
>>57081496>That's the best you can do? 3 mons of which 1 is weak to dark is a good chunk? There's plenty more it can OHKO. Especially if it's Black Glasses and you have hazard chip. 252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cinderace: 295-348 (98 - 115.6%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Speed: 510-600 (211.6 - 248.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gholdengo: 486-572 (154.2 - 181.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO>252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Gholdengo: 362-428 (95.7 - 113.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Grass Meowscarada: 312-367 (106.4 - 125.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Walking Wake: 252-297 (74.3 - 87.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth RockYou know, Pokemon are deliberately running a little more bulk and cutting into their power JUST so they can live Kingambit's Sucker Punch. People aren't calcing their bulk so they can try and live a +3 Body Press from Zamazenta, they're doing their calcs over Supreme Overlord Kingambit. Maybe it's because Kingambit is actually way more of a threat than Zamazenta. Maybe.
>>57081699Rhyperior DOES NOT suck shit.
>>57081732>plenty moreCinderace will o wisp it and the 252 set lives easy>deo>gholdweak to it (i said "aside" for a reason)>meow>conveniently ignores that it resists>wake not even 4 hp evs or def? ok lmaoPlus black glasses gambits always tera Dark, so the tera mindgames are ignored altogether, which are one of the biggest issue.>Pokemon are deliberately running a little more bulk and cutting into their power JUST so they can live Kingambit's Sucker Punchno source at all there >People aren't calcing their bulk so they can try and live a +3 Body Press from Zamazenta+3 BP ohkos everything short of Bolt bulk, no shit. +2 as well. +1 never ohkos so let's forget it. However people may Ev ghold pult and gking to live x crunches. Still no reply regarding the most central issue aka the plethora of sets that zama can run and make it extremely harder to deal with than gambit
>>57081880>CopeEverything that isn't a bulky behemoth or a resist is getting OHKOd or is dangerously close to getting OHKOd. Yes, a good chunk of Pokemon are weak to Dark, but that doesn't mean the OHKO doesn't count. >Plus black glasses gambits always tera Dark, so the tera mindgames are ignored altogether, which are one of the biggest issue.Not always. Black Glasses is also only a 1.2x boost, so the rare LO Gambit is going to hit even more obnoxiously hard. Kingambit's flexibility is why it is so hard to deal with since even minor nuances like it running an offensive item can throw off your defensive calcs.>no source at all thereRead set details on Smogon. Everything with a set with some HP/Def investment is doing it for Kingambit. Kingambit alone is mentioned 18 times on the article for Gholdengo. Cinderace's recommended set is calced based off of Kingambit so it can WoW it. The tier revolves around Kingambit. >Still no reply regarding the most central issue aka the plethora of sets that zama can run and make it extremely harder to deal with than gambitBecause it's not a central issue and you're completely mistaken on it. Zamazenta doesn't have set variety beyond choosing which one of its several counters it wants to guard against. Zama has very little moveset variety since it's reliant on Iron Defense + Body Press + Crunch. Its 4th moveslot is always rather low impact and it's always hurting for one of the moves it's missing (Psychic Fangs, Heavy Slam, Roar, Rest, Stone Edge). It's particularly straightforward. Hell, you could accuse it of having particularly bad 4MSS.
How do people have any problem with Zamazenta any flying type (or fighting resist) counters it unless you give it 3 iron defenses, unaware mons roar it out and god forbid if it gets burned.
>>57082130It is a powerful end game sweeper that cucks Kingambit hard and that's why they want it gone. They're so used to running Kingambit and reverse 6-0'ing the opponent that something that hard counters their bullshit pisses them off.
>>57081482You're right. It's absolutely hilarious.Now who's gonna intentionally misspell a member of the Oddish line to finish the job?
Is Ababor the Japanese name for Vileplume or something? What the fuck is this thread?
>>57082835Golurk Morelull
>>57076858>Bellibolt is relevantcute
>>57082880It can get some funny surprise kills because of how tanky it is while still hitting really hard due to its ability.
>>57082880No, it's quite hideous actually.
>>57082075As for the OHKOs by +0 5 deads sucker i count 6/40 = 15%and that's STILL a 50/50 or even straight up Gambit loss given the set (subs, wow, idef etc)Zama at +1 BP outspeeds and OHKOs 4/40 mons, and with coverage moves it goes even higher.>b but why are you considering only sucker then!!!Zama doesn't need sucker as it's the second fastest mon, any move is basically priority.>LO gambitdoesn't even show up on Pikalytics in terms of usage percentage. You have absolutely zero knowledge of the actual game if you brought that up. And I keep arguing with your 1100 elo ass>Kingambit alone is mentioned 18 times on the article for Gholdengowho'd have thought that the #1 ghold counter would be mentioned there? woah incredible argument Cinderace is one of the very few mons that cares about EVing for Sucker as it's a close roll, but you won't see a Wake or an Oger run any HP evs for that, nor any strong attacker. Support roles such as Ace can afford to lower their power as they provide more than that, but contrary to how you framed it, no fully offensive mons cut their attack for Gambit. It's just a delusion or rather, a lie>Because it's not a central issue and you're completely mistaken on it. Zamazenta doesn't have set varietyso according to you Gambit is OP due to flexibility. But zama's much higher flexibility, somehow, doesn't matter here. Zama can run>BP>ID>edge>slam>crunch>rest>roaron HDB or Chesto or lefties, additionally>CC>ice fangOn Band.Again, do you even play the game? Are you familiar with the sets? No knowledgeable or honest player would infer that zama has 4MSS when it commonly uses 7+ moves. You are either bad or trolling.>Its 4th moveslot is always rather low impactThe opposite, it wins or loses the game depending on the set. Which is why i hate that cheap piece of shit, it's gen 7 magearna all over again. Not that you'd know about it
The OG Vileplume card was the RADICAL
>>57082130Flying types (2 in the tier) get fucked by stone edge or get setup on with IDef. Not even mentioning that you can build around pressuring them to win endgame with zama very easily.Dondozo beats it but the other unaware mons lose to its teras.>>57082662I don't even use Gambit as it's too boring and for all I care it can go. Not broken thoIt's Zama's ability to beat any physical mon what makes it unfair, it's like giving Corvi or Skarm 138 base speed and stab BP
happy birthday ababor
How do we nerf ababor?
