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>Friend ID Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScx82fFuZO5JSneihERecx5UKEJv42EGQKYZM3flPh_ERIa-A/viewform

>Friend ID Sheet:
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>Tournament results/decklists:
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/vp/ battle passwords to battle with other anons (might want to say in thread which one you wanna battle under so others can join you)

>/vp/‘s own meta (no random effects, no ex):
vpnx
>meta decks or high level play:
vpmeta
>/vp/ anything:
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>>57081594 (OP)
What does Volcarona do
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My mom just gave me $30 so I can open some new packs on tuesday!!
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>>57081602
Whatever it does it probably uses Fire energy.
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>>57081602
New status, burn.
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>>57081609
Cute underage anon, I hope you pull something good
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>>57081602
>fiery dance 40
>flip a coin, if heads, the defending pokemon is now burned. if the defending pokemon is burned, this attack does 60 more damage.
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>>57081602
it has an ability that gives it all the energy that is consumed by the attacks of cards like ninetales, charizard and magmar
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>>57081602
Moth stuff probably
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>>57081602
>Volcarona
>Ability: Fiery Dance
>basically Gardevoir, but the fire energy goes on a benched fire Pokemon
>Attack: Flame Wheel - 3 energy
>60 damage, opponent is now burned
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>>57081636
charlizard ex bros we are so back
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Does this set have any immersive cards like the four in Genetic Apex?
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>>57081642
>gorgeous immersive cards
at least 2, 1 of which is probably celebi
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>>57081642
Yeah they mentioned at least one new immersive
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>>57081602
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LIMIT MISTY TO SPECIFIC POKEMON YOU FAGS
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>wishlist every card I'm missing so it's easier to identify good WPs
>26 diamond rarity cards missing
>the only wishlisted card in WP at the moment is one single Tynamo

I've gone 7 whole Mewtwo packs without a single new card, I'm about to freak it.
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>>57081602
>110 HP, weakness to water
>Ability: Hot Fuzz, burns deal double damage
>3-energy (two fire, one colorless): 70 damage, flip a coin, if heads your opponent is now burned
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Wait I thought fossils didn't give points if killed wtf
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>>57081677
retard
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>>57081677
No it's if they're discarded.
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>>57081680
>>57081679
ah well
back to my pikachu deck
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Kinda fucked how mew is an embryo but its tail is a sperm.
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>>57081696
>embryo+sperm
Kinda fucked? No, actually fucked
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>>57081602
Volcarona -- 110 HP -- [R]
Stage 1

Ability: Firelight
When your Active Pokemon discards [R] as an effect of an attack, instead move that energy to Volcarona.

[R][R][R][R] Fiery Dance 120

Weakness [W]+20 Retreat 2
[<><><>]
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>Decide to finally give pvp a go
>Lose a bunch
Is there deck based matchmaking like Snap? Why am I going up against water decks everytime?
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>>57081788
We're not sure. There are a lot of anecdotes about matching against batches of the same deck, but which deck it is seems to change over time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TzATOX0oW8 [Embed]
Someone finally explained to the Redditors and normies that Red Card is bad. Too bad that this came out now and not a month ago or whatever when I was saying it.
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>>57081802
Red card is only bad when you play it. When its used against you it will always hit perfectly even when you only have 3 cards on hand.
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>>57081817
>When its used against you it will always hit perfectly even when you only have 3 cards on hand.
No, it almost always gives you the cards you need, just like it will usually give the opponent the cards they need when you use it. The only exception is a Red Card plays on turn 1/2 after Pokeball/Oak, and even then it's not guaranteed to fuck up their hand.
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>>57081802
His math seems heavily flawed because he assumes I only care about one card at a time.
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0 damage or 200 damage
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>>57081802
Red Card is unironically a high iq card, of course redditors are gonna shoot themselves in the foot with it.
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>>57081802
I've had plenty of matches were I scope+red card their hand and they immediately concede because I sent their 2nd stage pokes to the bottom.
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TOMORROW!!!!!!

DATAMINES TODAY (MAYBE)
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Name an overrated card and an underrated card and good pulls will come to you in the expansion

For me it’s:

>Overrated
Kangaskhan
>Underrated
Golem
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>>57081854
Pretty much. It’s a card of situational and unknowable value, but you can get a feel for when to use it. It’s not like there are an abundance of cards you’d rather use right now anyway.
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>Overrated
Hypno
>Underrated
Dugtrio
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>>57081883
wait so the pvp event ends today? i didnt nake it bros..
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>>57081898
8 hours bro.. Gl!
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>>57081884
Golem has been tragically underrated, makes me sad how much shit Brock got.

Articuno ex has been heavily overrated.
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>>57081884
>Overrated
Koga/Muk/brap decks in general
>Underrated
Arcanine ex
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>>57081854
that's his point, how bad do the odds get for the red card user if the opponent cares about 2 or 3 cards? any number of them advancing his game state, he's arguing against the most effective use for red card which is blocking sabrina that ends the game
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>>57081886
And to add to this, I don’t think it makes sense to say “people typically play their hand unless they bricked” when the only thing driving that is red card’s existence. I would hold cards all the time if I wasn’t worried about potentially losing them for doing so.
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>>57081788
>Why
At least you're not against mew2ggers with full consistent t3 psydrive
No fucking coin flips there
Captcha related
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>>57081883
>DATAMINES TODAY (MAYBE)
I don't think any patches are planned today. They won't need a patch to turn off the pvp event
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>>57081535 →
Just tried this out and it's pretty fun.
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>>57081922
Everybody knows Muk is trash. Weezing and Koga are rated appropriately.
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>>57081884
>Overrated
Weezing
>Underrated
Exeggutor EX
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>>57081616
But I'm 39 and a half.
>>57081636
will go great on arcanine.
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>>57081941
I meant to say Weezing, it sucks.
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>>57081802
Should i not open my free packs until the new expansion drops
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>>57081953
Open them, you can't have more than two at a time
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>>57081898
I don't think I can stomach getting fucked any more. Just one nightmare starting hand after a other
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>>57081923
If I could make the opponent flip whether or not they have the sabrina or stage 1 that wins the game with red card, I'd do it, people spam misty for the exact same reasoning
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>>57081957
Yeah but i was wondering if i could have 2 free ones saves up for the pack expansion release
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>>57081944
The issue with both these cards is they have no good partners to pair with.

Both are 1 energy low investment walls that have no good backline to power up while they take the hits. Grass only has 1 other EX which is trash and dark doesn't even have any EX at all.
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>>57081674
Same. And I didn't get any progress in dex for a week.
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>>57081884
>Overrated
Misty
>Underrated
Machamp EX
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>>57081969
Pack launches Tuesday. If you want, skip your second Monday pack, but for sure open today's.
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>>57081969
You can if you don't mind losing a slight amount of pack refill time.
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>>57081962
Sending you a hand of 2x Pokéball +2x Professor now.
But you WILL be red carded before you can play anything
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>>57081973
>The issue with both these cards is they have no good partners to pair with.
The issue with Exeggutor is that it has no good partners to pair with. I haven't tried Beedrill because I don't have it, and Wiggly is, like, okay, but the new set is bringing Mew EX and Celebi EX and who knows what else, and the ability to put Exeggutor EX in any deck.

The issue with Weezing is that he's good against Mewtwo EX and not really anything else. I don't think Weezing is bad, but he's I think he's overrated, though my gauge of the "community" is just these threads. I think Tentacruel is better than Weezing is.
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>>57081986
damn you!
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>>57081991
Beedrill seems like a horrible choice. It's a stage 2 with the payoff of only needing one energy. This compounds Exeggutor's problem (inconsistency drawing evolution) with no payoff (Exeggutor doesn't need much energy). Exeggutor wants to pair with a basic (or stage1?) with a strong but expensive attack (3-4 energy) and a low retreat cost (in case you find Exeggcute just after setup).
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>>57081947
no it doesnt lemeow
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>you can be poisoned and sleep
what afucking trash game
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>>57081802
The fact that Pockets Red Card is a BUFFED version of the physical one (a banned card btw) was a dead giveaway that it was actually shit. It exists in Pocket just incase one of the '2 mon +18 trainer' decks actually becomes meta, as it's a legit counter to those strategies.
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>>57082032
This is in Pocket's rule book, by the way.
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>>57082032
affected by multiple status conditions is something the tcg has always had
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>>57082032
>getting outskilled by a wigglyGOD and weezing deck
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>>57081991
Weezing is a much better card than tentacruel since he's competing in the one energy slot instead of being a fatter golduck and has a better dual color use thanks to his ability
He's a good card that does his job of sitting there gassing you and tanking a few hits while you build something else up
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>>>57081551 → #
I got the five winstreak day 1 and have been taking PikaEX into the queue at least 10 times a day every day since
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>>57082050
It's way too easy to snipe, 110 hp isn't that much either
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>>57081884
>overrated
articuno
>underrated
kabutops
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>>57082033
why is the physical one banned
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>>57082073
making your opponent neg 3 turn 1 is a little op. to be fair the xy block probably had the strongest trainers of all time
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what Fire deck do you recommend for beating Starmie Expert solo?
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Kek what the fuck is this
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>>57082057
Right so he's a pretty balanced card and not broken, just good
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>>57082098
Blaine
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>>57082073
Pocket has a starting hand of 4 so going -1 to -1 your opponent on turn 1 is +0 card advantage.
Physical has a starting hand of 7 so going -1 to -3 your opponent on turn 1 is +2 card advantage.
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>>57082104
well that's nice since he's also a diamond only deck
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>>57082073
Players have much larger handsizes in the physical game compared to Pocket
>starting hand 7 cards
>tons of draw power and searchers
>prize cards after a KO that increase hand size
But most importantly you NEED to draw into your energy in physical. This makes hand disruption much MUCH stronger as it potentially energy starves the opponent.

a large chunk of the banned cards are some type of hand disruption https://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/about/pokemon-tcg-banned-card-list
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>>57081973
Weezing/Arbok work as an archetype because of Koga and the trapping/DoT which act as substitutes for natural power and bulk, the real problem is the bricks because it doesn’t have basics. I think Mew EX will help but something like Sneasel EX as a Dark-type Pikachu would have taken it to the next level. On some level the same is true for Grass but Egg’s best natural synergy is with stuff outside of his own type, maybe the new Exeggcute will fix that
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>>57081991
>I think Tentacruel is better than Weezing is.
Tentacruel doesn't have Koga. Also dark is a better type, since fighting deck are less common than electric one and Mewtwo is more common than Charizard or Arcanine.
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>>57082110
really surprised this is banned when basics with 300 hp have attacks that draw 7 for one but the ptcg has been gay for 6+ years now.
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>>57082057
110hp is actually really good in the current gamestate. You're just too retarded to realize it
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>>57082125
Draw power usually comes from trainers and not mon attacks.
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>>57082123
Why didn't you tell me Unown was this based on the TCG, /vp/? Can't wait for the Johto expansion.
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>>57082100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO9aFpjXqwY [Embed]
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Days have to be numbered for friendcode wonderpicks, right? It's too consistently exploitable to just add known godpacks every couple days, no way they intended this. Three for three over the last week since I wisened up; I would've D1 patched it to only add friends into rotation after three days
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>>57082132
the point being that the game is so hyper consistent and boring that bricking isnt even possible when your primary attacker is also its own set up or draw. there needs to be more disruption to make the game enjoyable otherwise games are nongames that have already been played out and you spend your life memorizing lines that WILL happen because everything is hyper consistent.
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>>57081937
He's betting on DeNA being unable to delay the patch until the last possible moment (like on Masters), which would guarantee a datamine next reset
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>>57082151
>TCG is so bad even Donald stopped playing
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>water/fire/elec/psychic meta is TOO STRONG!!! FIX THE GAME DeNA!!!!
skill issue
https://youtu.be/Mt0MsUDRgBk [Embed]
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>>57082026
>Beedrill seems like a horrible choice.
Possibly, but that's one card that could be good, which I have not tried simply because I do not have it.
>This compounds Exeggutor's problem
Exeggutor's problem is that there is no good 2-3 energy cost finisher. Beedrill being stage 2 sucks, but it has enough HP to take a hit, and it deals 70 damage for 1 energy, meaning you can keep putting energy on Exeggutor for a retreat. This is the reason I think it might possible be good (or at least might be better than Wiggly, which is the partner that I've had the best results with, but it still doesn't feel right)

>Exeggutor wants to pair with a basic (or stage1?)
Yes, and this is an argument I have made before.
>with a strong but expensive attack (3-4 energy)
No, he wants a 2-3 energy attack. Trust me. 4 is too much.
>and a low retreat cost
Yes, I have also made this argument before.
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>>57082109
Unless you use full arts.

>>57082149
Considering all the references to old card, it probably will say "you win the game".
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>no Christmas event
Soulless.
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>>57082153
While you could still topdeck a professor's research to get a new hand of 7, Pokemon usually do not have attacks or abilities that give you a new hand. Most mons with consistency abilities only give you an extra 1 draw per turn. Long gone are the days of Shaymin EX spamming.
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>>57082050
>Weezing is a much better card than tentacruel
Even if Weezing is a better card that Tentacruel, which I do not agree with, but even if its, it's not a "much" better card, it would only be a slightly better card. Weezing is only good into Mewtwo, and Tenta is only bad into Pika.

>>57082124
These are good points, but I still do not think that Weezing is very good. I don't think he's bad, and neither do I think Tentacruel is bad, but I do think Weezing is overrated.
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>>57082123
>damage
>hand
>missing
>v
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>>57082178
do japs even celebrate christmas why would they care about the jew adjacent religion
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>>57081788
>water decks everytime
Are you using a water deck or a fire deck
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>>57082188
Yeah, they do.
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>>57082188
Yes, they wouldn't use "christmas cake" as an expression otherwise
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>>57082188
They celebrate by going to KFC.
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>>57082188
Not him, but a lot of gacha have christmas / new year’s content / gifts. Very weird coming from my only experience with gacha (first 7 years of Dokkan Battle) to this, where the game doesn’t even acknowledge or reward revenue / downloads.
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>>57082152
>Days have to be numbered for friendcode wonderpicks, right?
I wouldn't be surprised if newly added friends can't show up in the wonder pick after the next update.
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>>57082178
This game hasn't really given any free gibs, it doesn't seem to acknowledge anything, half its "events" are just bad Wonder Picks, and the actually "good" events are just excuses to actually play the game with the only reward being a cosmetic badge.
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>>57081594 (OP)
I am getting really tired of this match making. It seems to often pair you into mirror match/same type or into a type disadvantage.

Can I just play against random decks? I am sick of constantly being put into type disadvantages only to be placed into mirrors after I have a string of losses.
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>the most cards I don't have are in mewtwo
>a week of fucking nothing from mewtwo packs
Bruh. Give me fucking gardevoir already
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>>57082152
What's the secret? I have never gotten a godpack to show up.
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>>57082057
>dodges pika-ex giovanni
>dodges starmie-ex giovanni
>dodges 2 flips zapdos w/o giovanni
>takes 2 mewtwo hits w/o giovanni
>on a single prizer that can be healed through koga

what are you talking about
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>>57082241
Just get lucky
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>>57082241
Have less than 4 friends and temporarily friend people in god pack circlejerk chatrooms.
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>>57082241
Sounds like they’re deleting their friends lists and only keeping friends with a recent (3 days or less) godpack. Probably a gamble to try for it now, but it sucks to have missed out on easy 2 stars.
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>>57082232
The redpill is that >90% of players are playing a meta deck. Even if there is bullshit algorithms to fuck your matchmaking, you'd still be facing mostly meta decks if they removed it completely.
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>>57082241
there are discords dedicated to farming wonder picks. you keep your friend list empty, someone posts a god pack, add them to your friend list, then you have a good chance of it showing up.
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>>57082241
people on discords are rerolling accounts en masse with ahk scripts until they get an account that opens a godpack in its first 4 packs and then adding that account with their mains to get it to show up in wonderpicks so that they can collect all the rarest cards
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>>57082255
>>57082258
>>57082261
>delete all of your friends
That seems like such a hassle though.
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>>57082241
Additional context to >>57082255 is that most of the godpacks in the circlejerk are being pulled by disposable accounts doing their initial free pulls.
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>>57082263
you can still do the trick without deleting your friends, but it DOES increase the odds of the newly added godpack account to show up on wonderpick
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>>57082266
>you can still do the trick without deleting your friends
I have ~50 friends and I've never seen a godpack from any godpack anons in these threads. Guess I'll have to sacrifice my tranny tickets, because godpacks out of the miniset sound pretty juicy.
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>>57082178
>expecting a Christmas event before the 20th
lol
>but my other gacha kusoge does it
still retarded to *expect* it at the current date, especially from a game that released a month ago
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How does the usual Weezing deck look? I have two full art Weezing cards now. I kinda want to use a Weezing deck and a Wigglytuff deck.
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>>57082260
I don't care If I'm against a Meta deck or not. I just want to play against different things and not fucning mirrors or counters 90% of the time. This shit is getting annoying.

>play weezing deck
90% of the time I'm facing another dark deck or a fighting deck. Occasionally get a psychic deck.

>play water deck
Constant misty decks or pikachu decks.

>play pikachu deck
constant pikachu decks or fighting decks.

>play fire deck
constant Moltres and blaine decks or misty decks.

etc etc etc. How is no one else noticing this?
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>need brock for themed collection mission
>see 2/5 brock pack in wonder pick
>still get a fucking sizzlypede of all
Wonder pick is the worst mechanic ever imagined by a greedy company and I'm still not putting a cent in this shit
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>>57082314
You can do weezing and wiggly together.
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>>57082330
How does that work? I only ever used Mewtwo ex and Gardevoir for solo content.
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>>57082192
Fire
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>>57082322
>How is no one else noticing this?
Lots of people have been complaining about the queue matchmaking. There is definitely something fucky, but also everyone is playing meta decks anyway.
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>red card 8 cards back into opponent’s deck
>my deck is still fatter after his draw
That’s how you know you’re losing, anons.
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>>57082335
see
>>57082322
>>57082232
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>>57082334
https://www.pokemonmeta.com/top-decks/community-tournaments/doggomme-cup-(70-players)/11/wigglytuff-ex/kai/JCe4O
or
https://www.pokemonmeta.com/top-decks/community-tournaments/fav-pok%C3%A9pok%C3%A9-1-(255-players)/1/wigglytuff-ex/%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%99%E3%80%82/9jUFS
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>>57082314
>2x weezing/koffing
>2x arbok/ekans
>2x koga
>2x sabrina
>2x x speed
>2x research
>2x pokeball
is the core, 6 flex slots for whatever you want between
>potion
>red card
>wigglytuff line
>muk line
>giovanni (don't recommend)

it will probably one run pokeflute in the next expansion so you can arbok+sabrina and don't get raid boss'd by charizard/starmie/venu/blastoise
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>>57082152
>It's too consistently exploitable to just add known godpacks
most godpacks aren't shareable so if your just friending people who pull godpacks you'll only see a small percentage of those show up in wonderpicks. If the godpack is confirmed "live" and shows up in someone elses wonderpick, then you can all but guarantee pulling on that. Considering the only people going through all that effort to do that are maybe a couple hundred people in some discords, it doesn't remotely affect Dena's bottom line.
>>57082162
>bro just pull two cards you can't directly search and then win a coinflip
Please don't link to videos made by fags
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>>57082357
I can't count lol you only have 2 flex slots
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>>57082338
>playing meta decks anyway.
Why do you keep saying this? That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. If I play greninja. Most of my matches will be into Grenina/articuno/misty and Pikachu. While I'll never see blaine/charizard/weezing/Venasaur/machamp/ Etc.

I don't mind the meta or not part. What is annoying is the match making seems to be based on what elemental type you are using. If you lose more it pairs you into the type that you have advantage over. If you win more it pairs you mostly only into mirror type or a type that does bonus damage. It's annoying and exhausting to play. I really hope the ranked isn't like this too.
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Excuse the volume slider. I was rolling at this turn 3 concede and fat fingered the screenshot.
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What Water deck do you recommend for beating Pikachu Expert solo?
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>>57082371
>Why do you keep saying this?
Because you're going to be playing against meta no matter what you do.

>I really hope the ranked isn't like this too.
I hope we don't get a ranked. This is not a skill based game.
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>>57082377
Starmie ex and winning a misty coin flip.
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>>57082371
this is either:
>negativity bias
>lack of data
track 100 matches with the same deck and let me know what the data shows
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>>57082381
>Because you're going to be playing against meta no matter what you do
Are you retarded?
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>>57082382
Ew, I hate it but ok.
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>>57082385
>Just do some research and record your data for me.
Nah. Do your own homework. It's obvious to anyone who is above average intelligence with multiple decks types.
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>>57082314
2 Koffing 2 Weezing 2 Koga
1 or 2 Ekans 2 Arbok
1 or 2 promo Jigglypuff 1 or 2 Wigglytuff ex
2 Professor's Research 2 Poké Ball
1 or 2 X Speed
1 or 2 Sabrina
0 or 1 Giovanni
0 or 1 Red Card
0, 1, or 2 Potion
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>>57082322
There's a solo mode for that.
All that's needed is an AI that isn't absolutely retarded.
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We needed this
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>>57082397
I wouldn't do this. The wiggly will just brick your hands. Most people who use wiggly/weezing do not run anything else, and most people who run arbok/weezing do not include anything else. There's a reason for that.
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>>57082348
Have everything in the first one but a Potion. I'm one ticket short of getting one. Can I use two Sabrinas instead? Also, how does Weezing work? Do I want him benched or active?
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>>57081594 (OP)
>6 Dragonite line
>1 of each fossil
>1 Meowth
>2 Professor's Research, Sabrina, Potion, XSpeed, Pokeball
Funniest deck I ever played. Easy to stall into Dragonite and then 1 or 2 turns of meteor deletes the opponent's board. I've taken Ws against Mistycuno, Starmie, Pikachu and Mewtwo. It's so fucking funny to just get 3 points in one turn by finishing off an EX and some other foddermon.
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>>57082377
I used Frosmoth. It also took care of my no ex, FA, or promo Pokemon mission.
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>>57082399
>solo mode
Why are you talking about pve when I'm talking about a pvp problem with the match making?
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>>57082377
I think I beat this with some kind of tentacruel/golduck/dewgong monstrosity, you kind of jsut have to wait until they start poorly. i probably donked them with a golduck? don't' really remember.
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>>57082371
>I really hope the ranked isn't like this too.
you shouldn't worry about a ranked mode because you aren't skilled enough to climb to the top anyways
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>>57082401
https://youtube.com/watch?v=I1wHDY4DGRI&pp=ygUXdHVja2VyIGNhcmxzb24gdmFwb3Jlb24%3D [Embed]
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>>57082394
>MY negativity bias is true because I'm smart enough to realize a game that doesn't have any kind of skill-based matchmaking actually has secret deck-based matchmaking
whatever you say boss
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>>57082389
>Are you retarded?
If you wanted to have more sympathy about this matchmaking conversation, you should have been having it when everyone else was having it. You're going to be playing mostly against meta no matter what deck you play. Every deck I played, I matched into nonstop Mewtwo, Pikachu, Misty, Charizard.

Do I feel like I faced more Kogas when I was playing Mewtwo and more Primeapes or Marowaks when I played Pikachu? Sure. But I also played against almost entirely Mewtwo when I was running Exeggutor, and I was almost never fighting Pikachu when I was queueing with Greninja. The event queue is just a meta deck blender.
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>>57082408
>Have everything in the first one but a Potion. I'm one ticket short of getting one. Can I use two Sabrinas instead?
Have you ever played this game before? The trainers and items and shit is mostly just personal preference. The finals half the time is like Mewtwo A vs Mewtwo B, where the only difference is 2 Potions vs 2 Sabrinas.

>Also, how does Weezing work? Do I want him benched or active?
You probably want him active when you can. Koga "refreshes" him when he gets low, and he poisons the opponent's Pokemon which puts a real timer on them or forces them to retreat. Or, if you think you're fucked, like if you against fighting, you probably just bank the game on Jiggly flipping the opponent for enough turns to build up your Wiggly and hopefully coinflip the rest of the game in your favor.
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im uninstlling
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>>57081594 (OP)
>Two 4-win-streaks end with a loss on game five.
Fuck
Oh well, I had fun regardless. Won a couple games with some smart plays like Sabrina-stalling. Eventually your luck runs out, too. For me, my Misty flips have been brutal. Out of 8 uses, 6 of them have ended with an immediate tails. Dems de breaks
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>play meme deck of solo magikarp/gyarados just to get thanks ticket
>manage to win a game against a mewtwo deck
Wut.
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>>57081802
What? It's a wonderfully useful card.
>Scope their hand
>See an evolution card but no basic
>Opponent's turn and they play their basic
>Know they'll evolve next turn
>Red Card

Or
>Want to put down a card to charge up on the bench, but will be dead weight for a couple turns
>Hand scope
>See Sabrina in their hand
>Red card

This has literally won me games
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>>57082412
because people chasing meta will always happen in pvp
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>>57082458
you cant uninstall mobile games silly
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>>57082493
In Soviet Russia mobile game uninstalls (You)
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>>57082446
Thanks, anon! I've always wanted to use Wigglytuff, and I'm glad Promo Jigglypuff seems to make it way more useful.
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>>57082401
lumineon soon
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>>57082477
Meta decks are good but I'm noticing that the pilots are ass. They're not hard decks to play but they still get misplayed and off-meta decks or decks close in per get free wins. Or that guy was just bricked.
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>>57081884
>Overrated
most EX honestly, they're just boring
>Underrated
Normal Articuno, Fearow, Persian, Aerodactyl

>>57082123
>>57082187
oh hey i pulled the full art for this one yesterday, good shit
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You are jumping back in event queue with Arbok and Weezing to snipe Mewtwo decks and bully Pikachu, right? The amount of people who just close the app the past day or two is insane lmao.
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>>57082521
yes
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>>57082467
Enjoy ur silver badge bro
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Any of you get into card collecting for the real TCG or started playing that after Pocket? I'm taking a risk and bought a Terastal Festival box for hopes of a god pack or maybe pic related.
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I know you can only store two packs but does that also include the premium pass one? Meaning can I save 3 for the morning the new set comes out?
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>>57082514
>vito
>cry
>mol
>syg
what did they mean by this
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>>57082536
I think you can store 2 premium pass packs as well. When I redeemed my free trial, I began with 2 premium packs, so you might be able to get 4 saved up.
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>>57082535
I considered getting nice waifu cards cause the art is legit fantastic but the prices are beyond retarded
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>>57082521
I wish I had weezings cause what i wanted to do after I got my 5 wins was:
>if its mewtwo/pika/other meta cancer deck, bully them
>if its literally anything else, only build weezing and koga concede for them

But my wonderpick and pull luck is shit so i only have 1 Muk and no weezings
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>>57082535
Yeah I bought the Corviknight and Lycanroc deck and played with a friend, had fun so I bought a bunch of Fighting cards to pad out the deck and make something myself but honestly just looking at all these cards is exhausting. It was pretty cheap on tcgplayer, I got some Lycanroc V, staples, Galarian Zapdos, Lucario and whatnot. Maybe one day.
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>>57082535
I play the real tcg and open packs from time to time. I've been opening shrouded fables recently since its so cheap after the collectors shat on it and it has a bunch of meta cards in the set. I got a million fezandipiti copies that Im going to use to trade for waifu cards at my locals.
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>>57082521
No I'm using my meme deck to beat them.
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>>57082485
>magical christmas land
hand scope is only useful with red card. if you don't have them both in hand hand scope is basically a dead card. yes, sometimes it will win you games. but how often does it win you a game vs how it would win you game if your hand scope was potion, x speed, sabrina, or giovanni instead? the opportunity cost of hand scope+red card in your deck is missing out on trainer cards that are less situational. i also used hand scope+red card in a deck early on but it just isn't going to save your game as often as other cards.
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>>57082535
guilty, I dug out a tin I've had since highschool and got them all sleeved/bindered up and now I'm working on a living dex when I find art I like
Seriously considering playing the physical tcg just to use all the non-collection cards I have and cause I like pocket's pvp but I only really like playing shitpost decks and those feel like nonstarters in physical
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What Fighting deck would you recommend for the Solo Mewtwo Expert fight?
Thanks in advance.
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>>57082510
>the pilots are ass
This. I’ve been running an absolute meme in the event queue for the sole purpose of ending good decks run by bad players. Works pretty well, as long as I don’t get completely bricked up, which has only happened once in maybe 30 games.

>mfw my opening hand had all 4 of my stage 1s without any of their basics
>there’s also no draw power
>or energy acceleration
I’ve never seen a worse hand, and in a decently long game (10ish turns), I only got 1 pokeball and never saw a research.
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>>57082595
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>>57082595
some combo of marowak/sandslash/diglett. if you have 2 brock maybe you do onixes.
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>>57081884
>Overrated
Weezing
>Underrated
Kabutops
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>>57082601
By the way what exactly is the criteria for
>attacks done to this Pokémon.
Dugtrio's status effect wouldn't stop the effects of things like Inferno Dance, right?
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>>57082531
Thanks, man. I will :^)
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>>57081884
>Overrated
Articuno EX
>Underrated
Pyukumuku
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>>57082603
Why would Onix be good?
Never hear of that deck.
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Chances of a gold sale when the new pack comes out?
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>>57081884
>overrated
the cards my opponent uses
>underrated
the cards I use
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me in a mirror match:
>>57082657
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>>57082652
Seeing as it's Nintendo and Creatures there's a higher chance of surge pricing than a sale
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>>57082578
But I already have those trainers in my deck. Red card isn't taking a lot away from having Gio and Sabrina in my deck.
And since I'm forced to put in 20 cards in my deck, I need to put in either more pokemon or more trainers. More pokemon means I risk not getting the basics I need, more trainers means I risk not getting the trainers I need.
Either way it's the same risk. If I added more pokemon and I drew them instead of a misty/erika/blaine/gio, I'm in the same scenario.
Your point falls flat because you're assuming I'm able to put in a better card in my deck when that better card is already there and I'm forced to put 20 cards in a deck.
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>>57082490
>>57082427
why are you retards conflating the issue? Why are you talking about meta? There's always going to be a meta. I'm not talking about metas, why bring up a different topic than the one I'm discussing? My issue is the weird matching and you retards are talking about meta as if that has anything to do with anything.
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>>57082638
>Water Scyther is good
Fair enough.
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>Just ONE(1(Uno(Singular))) diamond card left to complete Genetic Apex (not counting alternate rarities).
>It's Venasaur EX
>I already have 2 of the rarer full art version
Fuck I hate this, I can't stand seeing that number not saying 226/226 but I am NOT fucking wasting 500pp crafting this shit card since I'm trying to save up for the rainbow border versions of the legendary birds (Already got Zapdos, still need Articuno and Moltres).
I'm just gonna have to keep opening Mewtwo packs hoping I pull the stupid nigger (and hopefully that rainbow Articuno too, I have enough pp to craft 1 rainbow bird, saving up another 1250 before I give up on opening the set is unlikely).

Also
>Verify your email or wait 15 minutes to post
What kind of datamining scam bullshit is this?
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>>57081923
If the opponent cares about 2-3 cards and I subtract 3 cards from his total hand there’s a good chance I slowed him down
You’re playing uno Reverse too hard
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>>57082706
But anon if you get every diamond card you unlock 3 player icons with cropped images from the A1 booster pack art.
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Previous thread just now archived. This thread was baked 3.5 hours early.
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>>57082683
what is your problem then?
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What site do you guys use to post deck build pics?
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>>57082683
just add bad cards to your deck bro. it'll change its weight and you'll be matched with decks that aren't better than yours
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>>57081884
Pikachu EX
Rhydon
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>>57082736
https://my.limitlesstcg.com/builder
or https://www.pokemonmeta.com/deck-tester is you're double gay
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>>57082514
>>Overrated
>most EX honestly, they're just boring
true
>>Underrated
>Normal Articuno, Fearow, Persian, Aerodactyl
Are you serious? All those cards are trash.
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>>57082769
>Normal Articuno
>trash
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>>57082769
They're funny and that's all I care about.
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Genuinely stunned they didn't just concede on the spot. Anyways, this got me my fifth win.
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>>57082807
I want that moltres art so bad
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>>57082807
I've never seen that menu before. THIS is what you guys are doing?
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>more pikashit buffs
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>>57082683
You're late and you're not having a good time. We understand.
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I attempted one chain of battles per day and posted my results. Today, I finished the pvp event by doing multiple streaks until I finished my missions.

>day 1: 0 wins
>day 2: 0 wins
>day 3: 1 win
>day 4: 0 wins
>day 5: 0 wins
>day 6: 4 wins

Day 7:
>attempt 1: 1 win
>attempt 2: 1 win
>attempt 3: 1 win
>attempt 4: 0 wins
>attempt 5: 1 win
>attempt 6: 0 wins
>attempt 7: 2 wins
>final attempt: 5 wins!!!

I did it! Somehow I managed to get the 5 wins on my very last attempt. That last game was really tough too, I was certain I was going to lose, but I'm glad I stuck it out and found a way to win.
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>>57082838
Is that really a buff? You're hitting for 30 with a full bench, you could be hitting for 90 next turn with a PikaEX.
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>>57082683
>why are you retards conflating the issue?
Because you yourself are talking about seeing decks that are good and are obviously going to be played. All you're really doing is complaining that you aren't being allowed to counterpick and hunt matchups
>Why am I running into Misty/Pikachu/Blaine???
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>>57082901
Grats, Retard-kun.
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>>57082901
Based Ionochad
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>>57082901
Good job tardbro!
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>>57082901
Thank god everyone with an emblem is just conceding now.
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>>57082838
We've been over this anon. The Pikachu deck runs 2 Pikachu ex, 2 Zapdos ex, and 2-3 other Lightning basics.
New Piakchu is on par with fat Pikachu if you have 3 Pokemon and worse if you have 1 or 2. This only provides value if you have 4 Pokemon.
If you have 4 Pokemon you have something better than new Pikachu to put active.
In any situation where you would be forced to put new Pikachu active it's worse than fat Pikachu.
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>opponent played articuno in a deck where only misty could add energy to it
>got 3 heads and fucking 6 heads when they played her
jesus christ
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Last one.
Is normal Pikachu style good or is there some cheese method?
Thanks in advance.808h
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>>57082921
Actually I think a good 40% of my games were against people with really strong decks (some even had crowns) and also had the emblem already.
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>>57082901
Happy for you bro
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>>57082943
I did all othese with the fillers, Heliolisk + Zebra for the ones that asked electric
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>>57082901
>29 games total
Honestly that's "fast". I think the expected number of games was around 32?
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>>57082901
nice congrats!
>>57082943
I never used pikachu ex. I used elektross and helio
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>>57082943
I think I did Heliolisk Pincurchin? If you have a proper Pikachu deck just do that instead.
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>>57082956
>>57082963
Thanks.
Just blew it up with pika ex.
Poor champ.
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>>57082838
I like this card
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>>57082536
>>57082551
You can stock 2 premium, but those are 24h timers so you need to stop messing with it earlier.
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>>57082838
People really complaining about situational 30 damage for 1 energy?
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grimers retreat cost is way too damn high
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>>57082987
Wait for Leaf, she's the salvation of all high retreat cost mons
My Lapras EX will accept her wholeheartedly
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>>57082535
I didn't get into collecting after Pocket, but I do have a *very* old binder full of first edition base set 1/fossil/etc stuff.
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>>57082521
>>57082529
based brap & trap bros
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>>57082993
Accepting Lapras mentioned.
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There are all of my relevant water pokemon. Can I make anything worth making with this, or should I keep waiting until I have more ex cards first?
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>>57083008
https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1734230247249884.png
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>>57082905
I don't want or need to counter Pick anyone. You are so stupid that you can't understand what I'm saying. It's like you're going out of your way to misunderstand as much as possible.

What I am effectively saying is that if I pick a greninja deck, I won't see any fighting or psychic decks. I'll mostly see the same type or the type that counters me, and occasionally if I lose too much the type that I counter.

I mostly see Pikachu decks when I am using a Pikachu deck or when I'm using a water deck. But nearly never when I am running a grass type deck. That is what I'm saying. You retards keep misconstruing what I am saying.

>Umm sir, but there's a thing called "The Meta
>Sir, you want to get easy wins haha

I don't need easy wins. I have my pvp badge many times over. But that doesn't mean I want to only fight mirrors and counters.
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>>57083008
obviously a blastoise deck with articunos to wall
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Would alakazam work well with the new mew? You’d think that card would demolish high energy mons like mewtwo and zard, but since they discard it when attacking Alakazam loses out on damage.
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>>57083014
What you're effectively complaining about is seeing the most popular decks that are obviously going to be on the ladder.
"I'm seeing a lot of often played decks for some reason" that's what you're saying, anything is your own perception of being conspired against.
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>>57082401
They better make sure players can't infinite stall with this
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>>57083040
shut the fuck up
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I'm only lacking 7 cards for Mew, 2 from Charizard and 5 from Pikachu. I have sniped 5 more from wonderpicks. I have enough points to buy the Vileplume and Polowhirl but I am also thinking of waiting for trades and wonderpick. I just really hate that I never got a single Starmie EX from Charizard on my main. My alt account got all the drops that were hard to get on the main, including Starmie even in full art lol. Being a F2P is suffering (holding enough tickets to try and get anything from the next set in 2 days)
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>>57083045
I don't get it, why isn't the ladder full of fossil beat or Venasaur decks....
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>>57083035
At the very least it works really good against it.
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>>57082901
i was about to win my 5th game but i literally choked and went braindead an lost its so fucking embarrassing i deleted the game
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post your ideas on what Red is gonna do for his card
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>>57083055
>I don't get it, why isn't the ladder full of fossil beat or Venasaur decks
Stop being retarded. I am literally saying that if I play my grass deck, I'll run into Venasaur decks more often.
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>>57083079
Unable to be KO the next turn
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When are we getting the datamine?
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New packs soon. Is it wise to save both free daily rolls until the new set drops, or do the first so I can always have my timer rolling? I want to maximize my chances at failing to get the good new cards like the anon seventeen posts from now will experience.
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>>57083079
We already have red card.
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Anons, I did it. I got the emblem.
After many "almosts", Blaine-sama helped me. The last opponent had Blastoise deck and bricked with 2 Squirtle and 1 Staryu.

Thank you, UNIVERSE, for believing in me until the end!!
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>>57083098
tonight if they drop a prepatch on reset.

if they DON'T patch tonight then not only will we not get datamines, but the servers are going to fucking explode on release night.
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>>57083101
>packs
pack, theres only 1 booster for mythical island
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>>57083110
Part of me wants the datamine, but the better part wants to see servers explode. This game launched way too smoothly; it needs to have a big problem at least once.
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4 hours until the PvP event is over. Surely /vp/ is good enough to get 5 consecutive wins, right?
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>>57083080
See, now you're conjecturing entirely on vibes, that's why an anon told you to actually chart your matchups. Then we'd have something to talk about beyond your imagination
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>>57083125
I got my 5 wins on day 1. But I was also smart enough to reroll for the full mewtwo deck instead of attempting to play this game with unfinished shit decks like most posters seem to be doing.
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>>57083125
you know it, dabbed on so many pikachuds for it too >>57083006
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>>57083132
I rerolled for Erika and got multiple decks to play with on day 1.
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>>57083125
I sure am
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>can't decide between fortnite crew subscription and the pocket premium pass
>for $12 a month, Crew comes with 1000 vbucks, 4 different battle passes with emotes and a bunch of skins, and a premium pass for Rocket League
>for $9 a month, Pocket Premium pass gives me 30 extra pulls a month, a shitty battle pass with shitty promos, and infinitely more dopamine than fortnite could ever give me
It's actually really hard to pick which one of these to spend my money on.
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>>57083104
Caaaalooos
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>>57083151
I think you should save your money
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>>57083008
Blastoise/Articuno deck. Hopefully you have 2 misty's.
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>>57083151
flip a coin billy
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>>57083151
Is Frotnight fun?
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>>57083125
I don't judge my self worth on 5 consecutive wins. Also, I don't care about the emblems.

I got the hourglasses from the event, that's what i care about.
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>>57083151
If this will be an incentive, it appears the premium missions start counting since the start of the month, so if you have collected all the cards needed, you will be able to complete most of the missions on the day 1 you activate the premium
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>>57083167
its a decent shooter despite the shit it gets, plus the zero build mode is kino
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>>57082943
>Is normal Pikachu style good or is there some cheese method?
this deck worked for me.
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>>57083167
The best way I could explain it is if you took all of your action figures and then shared all of your extra G.I. Joe guns with them. Soon, it's just going to be the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny. Godzilla is in the game, for reasons I can't comprehend.
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>>57083127
It's fucking obvious. Just play a grass deck yourself you retarded fucking nigger. You will get matched vs other grass decks within 3 battles. Especially if you win. Why is this board full of such autistic retards?
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lol everyone hyping up mew is ignoring its 3 energy cost. Not all decks will have time to build that shit up
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>>57083101
>New packs soon. Is it wise to save both free daily rolls until the new set drops, or do the first so I can always have my timer rolling? I want to maximize my chances at failing to get the good new cards like the anon seventeen posts from now will experience.
you should've been saving hourglasses for a while.

I don't know the exact time it drops but if you really care about 2 extra packs, find out when it drops and when you get your new packs and save accordingly so you don't miss out on any free packs. It's a mini set so it won't have anywhere near the amount of cards as the current set has. If that's half or a quarter we don't know yet.
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>>57083195
>lol everyone hyping up mew is ignoring its 3 energy cost. Not all decks will have time to build that shit up
mew ex with 2 gard's. So basically replacing mewtwo ex.
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>>57083158
Hey, don't you derogatorily call me "Billy". I'm not a child. I can do whatever I want when I get home from work.
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>>57083008
The real question is if you have Misty but yes.
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>>57083195
>>57083202
>mew ex vs fire deck
>can freely spam their energy discard moves because those specify that you remove fire energy from them
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>>57083195
>can copy any regular or ex mon’s move
>the stronger ones require 4 energy and might have discard rule you can ignore
>basic Pokemon
Nah, this is fucked up
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>>57082921
Every single emblem owner I encountered today was using a Pika or MistyCuno to obliterate my Ponytas and Farfetch'ds on their second turns.
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>>57083179
Cut the Red Cards for Lt. Surge.
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>>57083194
I played a grass deck right now and fought a dude using ponyta and a pinsir and then fought dragonite. I think you're the retard here
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>>57082943
Electrode raichu surge
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>>57081594 (OP)
has the new set been datamined yet?
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>>57083250
if it was don't you think we'd be talking about it? retard
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>>57082741
>play coinflip.deck
>gets matched with moltres and misty decks
he might have a point
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>>57083260
back to sleep
zzzzzzzzzzz
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>>57083214
lol. LMAO?
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What decks are people playing where they can justify using space for both Hand Scope and Red Card? The 1-of-Red Card in certain decks is a sight seen in tournaments yes, but in my mind the only deck you could ever consider both together would be 18 trainer Articuno ex, and that's debatable. In any other deck, sacrificing space for Hand Scope to "improve" your Red Card effectiveness just seems like a stupid idea that will lead to bricking hard.
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>>57083292
probably decks that dont use evos amd can have the space
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>>57083308
incredible how shit dhelmise is
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>>57083310
>probably decks that dont use evos and can have the space
Is there an actual example of this(again aside from Articuno ex)? Even basicpoke.dek Pikachu ex runs evos for different angles of attack.
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>>57083316
It's literally same as Lapras.
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>>57083195
It has a 1 cost attack for psychic decks. It's basically a better Zapdos for psychic, because coinflips attacks are gay.
Still splashable but not as good for other ele.
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How're your hoarding efforts going, anons? Saved up 244 pack glasses but, being 3 cards away from Mew is making the urge to rip flare up something fierce.
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>>57083324
True, but there's no Misty for grass types
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Arbok/Pigeotto is pretty good.
Everyone else tries to do setup and you just punch them in the face over and over and then swap out their pokemon once they finally finish setting stuff up
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>>57083233
>played a grass deck right now and fought a dude using ponyta
Dude are you retarded? What do you think it is that I'm saying? In your words, explain to me what I'm trying to say.
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>>57083336
>In your words, explain to me what I'm trying to say.
"I'm stupid and I think the game is rigged for me to lose"
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>>57083336
>you get matched with other grass decks
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>>57083209
Wouldn't it be one on one side one on the other?
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Grass is one of the most popular decks lol I play the like 1 in 4 games and I can't run it myself because I still don't have any venasaurs
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>>57083332
>stage 1 and stage 2 deck
Too inconsistent to be called good. We need a stage 1/2 tutor first.
Right now, all the good decks will always have a basic mon that can stall or win the game, while buying time for the stage 1/2 mon(ie Pika, Zapdos, M2, Moltres, and Articuno.)
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>>57083331
He haven't seen the full set.
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>>57083228
I’m the dickhead with the emblem running Onix/Golbat/Wiggly. Surely, you can earn the emblem if I’m playing this deck. Right?
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Does aerodactyl automatically win if there's nothing on the bench?
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>>57083370
Yes.
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>>57083370
yeah
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>>57083370
Yes. You can also lose by using Koga or discarding a Fossil with an empty bench.
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Since Pocket loves to reference physical cards I'm gonna guess the Celebi EX has one of these abilities
>if this card is KO'd flip a coin, if heads the opponent receives no points
or
>all your evolved pokemon can use attacks from their previous evolution
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>>57083424
>>all your evolved pokemon can use attacks from their previous evolution
Who even wants this effect? Machamp?
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Is Machamp good deck?
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arent the new packs on chewsday? why everyone is saying tomorrow?
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So instead of animated we get a bunch of alt arts?
Lame.
I guess immersives are something.
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>>57083450
should be tmmrw at 10 refresh i think
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>>57083450
Chewsday in nippon, which means 11am in the country on the coast that matters.
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>>57083349
>>57083352
Thank you for demonstrating your lack of understanding. Where are the posters who have reading comprehension?
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>>57083438
Unfortunately no. It really, really sucks going first, and going second it's still kinda slow. You can definitely win with it, just like you can win with a Ditto deck, but it's not actually good.
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>>57083328
Just wait until trading becomes available.
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>>57083459
they're too busy to reply to paranoid autistic posters like (you)
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>>57083292
Some decks have plenty of room to run random shit because they dont run specific support cards. Mewtwo and poka for example, they arent running shit like Misty so they potentially have space for res card.
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>>57083438
He's playable but is a bit too slow for an attack that's not strong enough to wipe out the big boys.
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>>57083370
Kinda? Its a niche ability but it will be devastating when it does come into play. Also 80 damage for 2 energy is a straight upgrade from marowack. I hate how thst card dodges criticism, its so fucking dogshit.
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You can probably pretty easily get like 80-90% of the cards in a set as a f2p, but holy shit it is fucking impossible to get that last 10-20%. I'm missing a bunch of random rares from different packs, and I have been unable to open or WP them for several weeks now, and the set's "over" so I'm never going to get the chance again.

And because it's a bunch of random rares, they are too expensive to buy for 150 pack points each. Besides, there are still a few other cards that I'd rather buy the 2nd of for a playset. They really need to make it so that you get one rare and one uncommon in each pack, guaranteed.
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YES
I FINALLY GOT A FULL ART TRAINER
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>>57083482
if the pack points truly don't carry over, ima prolly toss in a ten roll and try to craft what I don't have before i move on to ten roll + daily roll miniset
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>>57083488
Cool, i got misty. I kind wish i got erika instead though, water kinda wants to grow to not need misty. Erika on the other hand feels like a staple
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>>57083510
Ideally it would've been Sabrina because her art is the coolest but also I don't think she'll ever stop being a staple
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>>57083433
Just in terms of energy tempo
going second
any stage 1 that needs 3 or more energy
any stage 2 that needs 4 or more energy
going first
any stage 1 that needs 2 or more energy
any stage 2 that needs 3 or more energy

also evolutions where you give up utility, like Ninetales losing Tail Whip
and evolutions where you give up flexibility, like Greninja needing Water energy
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57083472
but you are. the autistic one.
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>>57083482
Idk why you're all acting like the set is done when the next one is minor filler
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>>57083364
Maybe.
I lost to someone who was using Onix/Venusaur.
That was weird.
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>>57083528
1) no one is going to be opening the old packs so you can't WP them anymore
2) you're not going to be opening the old packs, so you can't get the cards and you can't gain pack points for them
3) now you have a brand new pack that you need to hope you can acquire all of the cards of (you wont be able to)
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>>57083549
>no one is going to be opening the old packs so you can't WP them anymore
I don't believe you.
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>>57083433
Dragonite wouldn't mind having guaranteed damage on what's in front of it and Melmetal could have its damage resistance while still accumulating mass.
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>>57083552
He's stupid and doesn't even understand how WP works.
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>>57083552
Even if people are for some reason still opening the old sets, are you gonna be using your WPs on them, or are you gonna be WPing the miniset?
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Soo should i not open packs? I dont know how the refresh works. I want to have some free packs available for the expansion tomorrow
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I am still going to be opening the old packs since I have to get immersive Pikachu
There will be many opening the new packs but people will still want to chase old cards for various reasons
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I got 8 wins in a row with an incomplete Misty Starmie deck. Just flip heads
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>>57083526
>also evolutions where you give up utility, like Ninetales losing Tail Whip
Butterfree would blow significantly less ass if Metapod could use Find a Friend.

>>57083572
A1a is two resets away (27 hours). Your pack stamina bars only bank 24 hours each.
Whether or not you want to waste 3 hours to get an """extra""" pull from the new pack is up to you,
but if you waste 15 hours by not pulling that pack you have ready to go you're a moron.
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>>57083545
>Onix/Venusaur
Damn. He really went for the “barely functional” meme deck. Mine is at least designed to win kek.

Sorry about the bad luck, anon.
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>>57083585
So open tomorrow mornings pack then save? I guess i can make it so i have atleast 1 or 2 extra packs available without fucking my timer
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>>57083564
>Melmetal could have its damage resistance while still accumulating mass
Oh that's a good one.
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>4 days left
>still haven't managed to get a promo magnemite
At this point I'm spending Wonder Energy on the Chansey picks for it. Had one earlier with 3 Magenemite and still missed it.
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>>57083599
I have 8 of each promo from bonus picks. You must be doing something wrong.
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>>57083589
open the pack you have now and open tomorrow morning's pack. don't open the delibird pack.
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>>57083604
I've only SEEN Magnemite like three times. It's always Bulbasaur or the non-promo Magnemite.
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>>57083549
>1) no one is going to be opening the old packs so you can't WP them anymore
>2) you're not going to be opening the old packs, so you can't get the cards and you can't gain pack points for them
do you not realize how many absolutely essential cards they contain or something
The cards they're choosing to showcase the new pack are stuff like a pikachu that's worse.
That's not gonna make netdeckers switch over.
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>>57083612
Open your eyes.
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>>57083438
Machop sucks going first but you can somewhat balance him with Cubone and a Marowak EX. Not perfect and still wastes 2 energy but Marowak has the ability to really do damage. Just gotta get way too lucky with draws and flips for Machamp... Maybe try with a Sandslash but coming up with all that energy fucking sucks. Maybe Onix with Brock to guard Machop?
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>>57083549
It's also a VERY small set compared to the previous one. In a few weeks, once everyone's cleared most of it out, people will probably go back to the first set to clean up any cards they don't have yet.
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>switch to dragonite
>stop receiving thanks
Do people hate this deck? I'm getting less than I did with Mewtwo.
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>>57083438
Its pretty good, but it plays differently. The wincon is bringing our machamp last after you've used other non ex pokemon like hitmonlee or Khang to weaken and apply pressure (1 energy cost attacks are key). Then machamp cleans up.
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Would really love a no EX queue. I’m trying to just have fun and fuck with random decks but all I’m getting is sweaty tryhard Mewtwos and Starmie EX decks. Give me a break.
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>>57083663
If you don't mind playing with r/PTCGP you can use the lobby password "noex"
There's no enforcement but most people in that lobby don't using Pokemon ex.
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Is it true you can’t exchange booster pack points for zard/mew2/chu pack cards? That’s fucking lame
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>>57083438
Try Machamp with Meowth and Persian. Straight forward deck, 2 Machamp EX lines, 2 Meowth 2 Persian, supports like normal. Just draw with Meowth, evolve if you feel the need (hand disruption can be crazy), 3 turns later let Machamp run wild. Just expect the results to be indicative of a D tier deck.
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Finally rolled FA Erika. Just in time for new packs
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I just want a fem full art trainer bros. Giovanni is sick but I can’t earn my fellow coombros respect like this…
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>>57083670
you're confused. people are complaining that you can't use your current pack points for the mini-set that comes out Tuesday (Mythical Island). pack points are set-specific, so the points you've accumulated for opening Genetic Apex (zard/m2/pika packs) can only be used for any of those packs.
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>>57083696
>fellow coombros respect
please get a fucking life
the trainer FAs are dogshit basic and these are the thoughts you have?
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>still need immersive zard
>still need 3 1-star cards from different packs
>still need rainbow articuno
>still need melmetal (last diamond card)
>still need 2nd starmie
>still need 2nd wigglytuff

I'm saving my pack points until trading opens up because I'm hoarding a lot of cards that can trade for these, but being this close kills me.
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>>57083631
no one likes dying to rng. plus it's annoying trying to hit Dragonite when it's always behind so many walls
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>>57083681
>swapped to Zard packs as a “fuck it” tactic
>only a couple of free packs left
>won’t pull anything good anyway
>only need Egg ex from Zard
>but really want another copy of full art Blaine or Moltres
>see pic rel
Can’t believe another copy of Moltres showed up, and I’m so glad it wasn’t Machamp kek.
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Use my points to redeem egg ex (have 1 copy) or zapdos ex (0 copies)?
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>>57081788
Some card games I forget if it was MTG or Hearthstone will have a separate pool for matchmaking if you are using an unmodified starter deck. I’m not bored enough to test that in Pocket but I wouldn’t doubt there’s some matchmaking in place.
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how many of those "you can claim a pack" things can you accumulate ?
can I stack three ready packs for tommorow ?
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>>57083748
you can have up to 2 regular packs and 2 premium packs stacked at any given time.
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>face off with t3 deck vs t3 deck
>back and forths, actual decisions being made, room to outplay each other
Oh yeah this is why card games are fun.
If mewtwo is already pretty braindead is it only going to get worse as it gets powercrept?
Because there's room for fun with stuff like the bench but not if it boils down to just sticking down big EXs that don't need to evolve
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>>57083738
Wait until we see all of A1a, but probably Exeggutor.
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>don't want to spend hourglasses on mystical island
>resolve already wavering as I find myself desiring the high of multiple pack pulling
will I make it bros
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>>57083756
even in base set we have a user-created no-ex queue. as in any card game, so long as there are likeminded players, there will always be fan-created formats to play the way you want to play. a toxic or powercrept "standard" format is just one way to play the game.

hopefully dena considers player feedback and we have more formal avenues for playing other formats, but right now there aren't enough cards to justify it.
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>>57083769
just drop half your hourglasses and save the other half for january.
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>>57083711
Anon can’t recognize sarcasm kek
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>fight a dragon deck with my greninja+articuno deck
>turn 1 pull 2 froakies, opponent pulls 2 dragonites
>I evolve 1 greninja in my active slot, opponent evolves to dragonite
>I kill his first dratini and manage to soften up his dragonite
>he gets to 4 energy
>draco meteor kills my benched froakie and drops my greninja to 10 health
>I kill his dragonite and bring his wiggly ex down to half
>he concedes before articuno ever became a factor
I didn't really like this frog before but I'm coming around to it
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Now what?
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>>57083823
Now 2/5 bonus picks give you essentially nothing.
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>>57083823
got your 5 wins? event match. already finished that? random match.
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>>57083827
>random match.
Nar. Stay in the event queue.
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I have 200+ pack HGs saved for mini set, What’s everyone else’s stash looking like? I have horrible self control so it’s amazing I was able to save this many.
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>>57083834
I have about 600 but I'm not wasting any hourglasses on this set. All my stuff is going to the Johto set.
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>>57083834
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>>57083834
I've used over 200 HGs to entertain my nephews yesterday. But I got gold Pikachu, gold Mew2 and full art Marowak so I can't complain.
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>>57083840
>johto set
I hightly doubt that's actually the case, johto only has 100 pokemon compared to kantos 150, they'd have to cram way more filler mons into it to keep the card count up
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>>57083834
I've got 15 packs worth. I'm waiting to see if there's anything I even want out of the miniset and if it's just some trainer support cards, I'll prioritize pulling full arts from GA. I dont care about "cute" pokemon so mew and celebi don't interest me
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>>57083845
and even "Kanto" isn't purely Kanto.
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>>57083834
132 right now, i'm probably going to drop at least 20 dollarydoos on the new set as well like a good little cuck
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>>57083845
my hope/guess is that the next booster will be mostly johto and later gen evo's for the cards curretnly missing them like crobat, magortar, electivire etc. It would be nice if metal, dark and dragon could get fleshed out as archetypes with more support cards as well, seeing as it's unlikely they're getting much in mythical island.
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>>57083855
Dark will at least get Liepard it looks like
Probably just an electrode/golduck/etc. 2 energy decent damage low retreat type
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>>57083866
they'd have to make it comparable to Arbok if they actually want people to use it
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>>57083870
I think 70 damage, 2 energy, 1 (or 0 would be great) retreat dark type would be used
Arbok is great but the retreat and low damage have hurt me sometimes
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If we don't see a nerf to Misty with the release of this day it is proof the devs are too proud to make balance changes even in the face of something horrendously broken
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>>57083878
that's why you pair him with weezing and koga out after farting on someone
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>>57083834
I’ve got over 500, but I only plan to spend about 10 packs worth (120) unless I have had inexplicably shit luck at pulling something I care about from the set before the second full set drops. We’ll see.
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>>57083834
323 hourglasses, planning on using 240 for pulls and then back to the twice-a-day mines until the new set comes out.
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>>57083880
>complaining about a card that isn't in the top 3 decks
misty is very good, but there are other obnoxious meta threats I'd rather see nerfed before we nerf flip coin to do nothing.
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>>57083905
you understand nothing about game design
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>>57083880
misty is actually getting a buff thanks to the new vaporeon. it has an ability that let's you move any amount of water energies from a benched water to an active water, so if you end up overflipping with misty, that's just extra free energy for another pokemon
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>>57083906
And you do? Are you a game designer that moonlights as a scrub on /vp/ crying about mid tier cards?
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>>57083905
It’s not that the card is simply good. The problem is that it forms a two-card “win button” combo that will work with any water type released in the future. Never mind the fact that mistycuno is cancer of the purest form. I don’t care that the mistycuno player’s win record is so-so. I care that they can fuck up my attempt to even pretend to play the game. I had multiple streaks end in the event because “lol turn 1 / 2 blizzard XD”.

To put it in perspective, my fucking Onix reams assholes on the rare turn it’s able to hit that turn 3 attack, and that requires two supports every time.
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>>57083840
I hope it’s Johto as well bro
>>57083841
Sames basically
>>57083844
Damn nice pulls. I tend to have pretty shite luck with pulls. No holds currently. Still don’t have Marowak EX.
>>57083847
Word. I’m trying to collect all the cards so I plan to pull as much as I need to. Only missing a handful of Gebtic Apex cards aside from the rarest tiers
>>57083853
I’ve been tempted to swipe but haven’t bitten so far. If I do it’d be on the premium pass.
>>57083884
Good strategy
>>57083899
Good luck bro
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>>57083908
The new Vaporeon that blows ass.
>>
I had some of my best, most thrilling, most hard fought battles during this event. Time will show it was actually a great challenge and people were wrong complaining as much as they did
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What existing pokemon are you excited to see Alt versions for?
>Playable seadra pls
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>>57083924
kingdra soon, hopefully
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>>57083908
Vaporeon requires 4 cards to replace the current deck and 2 of those are basics that dilute your Staryu/Articuno pull. It'll make the deck more inconsistent if you run it, unless you only do Starmie/Vaporeon or Articuno/Vaporeon.
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>>57083922
I actually do feel insane that there are people who couldn't get 5 wins in under an hour. I did it with primeape+kabutops
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>>57083922
i hate battling against and using meta decks so this event sucked for me
i hope they never do this shit again
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>>57083919
While I can appreciate not wanting to lose before you could do literally anything because of awful rng, misty decks will average an extra 1.1 energy per game. When you compare that to brock who guarantees 1 energy and will average closer to 1.5 energy per game, it's not that bad. Misty is not the problem so much as the cards she supports. If Onix had the same stats and attacks as Articuno, Fighting decks would outnumber water decks almost immediately.
>>57083924
EX Snorlax and Gyarados,current snorlax is worthless and gyarados is a meme
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>>57083932
I can maybe see Articuno/vaporeon since misty lets you use vaporeon in a pinch and getting 3 energy on both birds is harder than with starmie. Or you could run 1 eevee, 2 vaporeon if you only want it for the ability. iirc, the current meta arcazard decks run 1 growlithe, 2 arcanine to keep the pool of basics low.
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>>57083924
>gyarados
>raichu
>onix
>poliwag/poliwhirl (if we get politoed)
>slowpoke (if we get slowking)

>>57083935
unfortunately the EXs are confirmed to be Mew, Celebi, Pidgeot, Aerodactyl, and an electric (likely raichu-ex or zeraora-ex)
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>>57083834
>200+ pack HGs saved
No you do not.
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>>57083916
You're a proud idiot. I hope no other anon continues to engage with you
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>>57083934
no one forced you to you meta decks. you fucking retard.
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>>57083958
You forgot about the invisible hand of the free market
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>>57083952
who even asked for EX pidgeot? Is that even a popular pokemon?
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I think misty just reveals how powerful ramp is in this game.
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>>57083964
I would have pointed to Moltres for that. Misty has good targets. Moltres doesn't have good targets and it still sees play.
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>>57083963
Pidgeot is Blue's ace Pokémon
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>>57083970
Moltres is what makes Charizard one of the top "stall" decks.
A wall that ramps zard.
Of course it helps zard has a great payoff in a ridiculous 200 atk move.
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>>57083970
>Moltres doesn't have good targets
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>>57083958
>just gimp yourself bro nevermind the fact that you are still going to have to deal with mewtwo decks that are super consistent and the lucky misty decks that end your streak turn 1
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>>57083977
Post your favorite deck that is not meta.
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>>57083979
Melmetal...
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>>57083979
persian + hypno is fun if you want to force your rival to watch 20 million coin flips that might or might not cost him the game
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>>57083963
pidgeot has history as a tcg favorite thanks to its meta-defining quick search poke-power in the FRLG set (and now as an ability on pidgeot-ex in Obsidian Flames). this game doesn't want deck search but it'll probably get some kind of card advantage engine.
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>>57083984
>>57083990
Why did I get 2 replies if i only @ 1 person?
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new bread

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>>57083984
>Melmetal
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>>57084003
>tauros
wouldnt kang or farfetchd be better since they consume 1 energy?
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GET YOUR EMBLEMS!!! 24 MINUTES LEFT!!!!
>>
It’s over…
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>>57083977
If you don't like the game no one is forcing you to open the app and play. You literally do not need to battle to complete dailies and collect trannytickets.



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