is this the best rpg ever made?
>>57086169LOL no
>>57086169maybe if you're retarded and stupid and idiot man and dumb stupid idiot person who cant talk and stupid guy who is man
>>57086169This almost pissed me off when I saw it posted on /v/ until I realized how blatantly bait this post was.
>>57086220>I don't agree therefore it's bait!!!
>>57086220the fact it took you time to realize it's bait is proof you're too dumb to be allowed to vote or breed
>>57086169>>57086226
>>57086169Best rpg ever made in history.
>>57086226You lost.
>>57086226>>57086272sorry, meant for>>57086220
>>57086169I think so and all the deniers will never mention one that's better because they can't take the heat.
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>>57086169Pokemon is a franchise, not an RPG
>>57086169>fantastic comfy world/setting>mostly good character and creature designs>solid gameplay>people only mocks the franchise because late games have bad graphics and because hating the le popular old series is what cool kids doeasily top 3 rpg franchises>>57086173>>57086220cope retards
>>57086169Hmm, I used to sink thousands of hours into modded Oblivion and Skyrim, they really captivated me throughout my youth and a lesser extent university. Nowadays, I dont really care about RPGs any longer. Pokemon does have some RPG elements, which is fine, but I just dive deep into battle mechanics / contests and glitch hunting. Seeking the next streak at the battle frontier/ similar facilities is a super thrill for me I suppose I got more competitive again, just like I was when I was a kid =)
Not the best rpg but definitely the best monster tamer
>>570863842.+ you dont really "roleplay". Your journey is to "become the very best, like now one ever was". You are destined to become the champion through battles and there are (luckily) no alternatives like advancing with dialogue.
>>57086395lol
>>57086317>Awful characters, writing and story>Barely any exploration and reward for going off the beaten path.>EVs, IVs, natures and shinies are a troll mechanic solely implimented to make perfectionists seethe.>Envoirements are bland compared to other JRPGs like Chrono Trigger and Dragon Quest.>No challenge. Easier than fucking Kirby!>Abysmal awful rock paper scissors combat combat where you either oneshot the enemy or (much less likely) get oneshot yourself. No strategy whatsoever.
>>57086768>Awful characters, writing and storythe games have great characters, decent writing and stories, cope>Barely any exploration and reward for going off the beaten path.you're mostly right in this oneyour other opinions are either bad or retarded, cope, there's a reason pokemon is so rightfully popular
>>57086169Yes, easily
>>57086768>only jrpg with online multiplayer thats not a mmo>awesome map design (until alola)>great story for rpg standards (bw, sm)>deep combat system>comfy artstyle>short to beat, long to 100%ftfy
>>57086768if you have those takes and are not baiting you are likely a retarded brainrotten coomer who never tried competitive or the battle frontier. Why are you even here?
Anyone who thinks pokemon has good writing or mechanics is just outing themselves as never having played any other games in the past two decades.
>>57087316Played FF, DQ, Xenoblade, Half-Life, i still think some pokemon games have good writing
>>57086169pokemon games are much better in concept then what games we have received. It have to say tho that games in kanto have one of the best maps in terms of heavily encouraging exploration and not having map bloat. Most areas have something to unlock later via hms including pokemon items and even the final boss which is 100 percent optional. Jhoto doesn't live up to the level of exploration in kanto and is the first game to have lots of pointless areas you will never return to. Dont get me wrong, kanto has some of those but they are nearly exclusively dungeons. There were even alternate places to get mons and even more iconic dungeons with legendaries in places with solid world building and in a perfectly inconspicuous area. If you never tried to swim there you wouldn't have known theres a zapdos there. The kanto region is simply wrapped up nicely. Hoen does an amazing job of making use of each area to hide goodies and secrets especially with the diving and the regi dungeons. Sinnoh is pretty good at map utilization and unova Is the near pinacle of this. I think Kalos dis an amazing job of utilizing areas and backtracking and making interesting things just because. Theres a house in Anistar with a sort of story attached to it that i dont want to spoil. Afterwards there were too many hallways in other games.
>>57086169Overall yeah, but the vanilla games have horrible single-player campaigns. However ROM hacks and fan content are undeniably a core part of the franchise and culture (similar with Touhou)
>>57087519The problem woth ZAPADOS is that the section of that route you need to SWIM on to get to the Power Plant isnt needed other than going to get ZAPADOS and your first pass through it. He is easily the most hidden of the trio. Compaired to MOLTRES and ARTICUNO, he is a big secret.
>OP samefagging his threadAnyways, no.
>>57086169/v/ hates video games, what made you think that /vp/ would like pokemon
>>57086816>the games have great characters, decent writing and stories,They're in the bottom 5% of the industryIdea Factory shits all over pokemon in each one of these categories, and Idea Factory is a fucking joke
>>57086169No. It is the best merchandise marketing vehicle ever made.
>>57087316Let's be honest here, the only reason you'd ever think Pokemon was a bad rpg is if you've only ever played pokemon and only compare it to itself.Generally rpgs don't have the level of variety of content or last as long as a pokemon game, especially when it comes to monster tamers where the only content is usually the story and maybe an NG+ mode that doesn't add anything.
>>57090894This nonsensical explanation is a rare moment of insight into the Pokemon Adult's brain state. Key features include the idea that somehow in a closed environment of only pokemon, pokemon would be considered bad because of its comparison to pokemon, the entertaining amount of lip service given to side activities the developers themselves haven't cared about for a decade, and the strain to comprehend a game that can be a good experience without becoming a forever game time dump, as their fundamental understanding of what the core aspects to a gameplay experience can be have been warped by the chronic exposure to tranquilizing and tepid mediocrity, and they see it as part and obstacle to infinite status quo. Generally speaking, at this stage a patient is terminal, as a large portion of their psyche is built up around the frightening amount of time sunk into the activity, building a veritable fortress of sunk cost and personal value associations that are all but impenetrable.
>>57090894Get better bait.
>>57086169NoIt's among the worstExcepting those who play it for the social aspect or as a noncommital time killer, it only really appeals to the autistic and those without true hobbies, as the curated, guided hobby experience of collecting, cataloging, and favoritism is greatly soothing to those who are otherwise intimidated or overstimulated by having to actually figure out something do do.
>>57086169In theory it has the potential to be.But game freak sucks.Clover is a strong contender.
>>57086169Not even close. Even the best Pokémon games are ok RPGs at best.
>>57091545Good LLM bait
>>57091533>This nonsensical explanation is a rare moment of insight into the Pokemon Adult's brain state.This is the only line in your post that tries to make sense. Everything else is essentially just babble where you could have compared and contrasted, however, doing so would only lead you to the conclusion that pokemon does more than your average rpg both in terms of scale and quality of content giving the player reasons to revisit the game beyond just playing the same story beats again or just completion of the compendium. Granted, you'd only be able to do this if you played more RPGs than pokemon. Without that you'd only be able to compare pokemon to pokemon, and yes, there is a definite decline but a bad pokemon game is still better than other rpgs in what it offers. As a monster tamer for instance it has the most amount of unique monsters of any series at the minute. DQM:DP almost knocked it off of the top spot but then the DLC happened pushing SV's count to about 820 or so, almost double that Dark Prince on top of having two new maps to explore and even more side modes. By the way, this is a good example of compare and contrast, you'd do good to incorporate it into your posts next time instead of doing what's essentially a giant ad hom.
>>57091545So basically what you're saying is that it's a good game since that's what all games want to be.
>>57091722Ohh, was meant for >>57091533
>>57091822Wait so pokemon is content now?
>>57092669Of course pokemon are content, it's a monster tamer. Half of the point of the genre is filling the compendium.
>>57093631Funny because you argue identically to people who act like that's not the case. Food for thought.
>>57095108That doesn't make any sense.
