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This week within the Likonime is gonna be the encounter with Entei, the last of the six heroes to be recruited. While Dot is chalked up to become the MVP in this Friday's episode, there is a notable part to consider:
>What will they cover next until the Rakua plot gets continued?
Keep in mind that they have the whole library of games, apps, mangas and other Pokemon-related material available to be revamped or used as episodes, so the more appropriate question for this week would be:
>What would you like to see being covered within the Likonime outside of the Rakua stuff?
That can range from more of SV to the usual promotion parts that can become the PLZA (mini)arc. Or even address Pasio since they went and even featured the PoGo Professor

Oh and here are three Tastugiris having a comedic deathwish
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>>57087504
>What would you like to see being covered within the Likonime outside of the Rakua stuff?
Lacey and Crispin
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Amethio’s wife needs to return soon.
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>>57087508
She will do just that. And she's not Amethio's girl in any form or capacity
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She just won't stop sending them.
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>>57087504
>What would you like to see being covered within the Likonime outside of the Rakua stuff?
Putting aside the PLZA part, there are some parts about Katy and Kofu that I think should deserve the coverage that Grusha got to fleshen out their characters more.
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>>57087525
Dot is a loyal Paypig
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>>57087525
Iono forgot to change Larry's nickname from Doto
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LiBarf?
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You sick fucks want Liko to hold hands with Roy, don't you?
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>>57087544
How the fuck did you know?
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>>57087544
>You sick fucks want Liko to hold hands with Roy, don't you?
Who's gonna stop me from getting what I want, hm?
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>>57087532
>>57087537
Gurumin gets them for free.
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>>57087540
Amethio might find common ground with Mollie for how weird Liko is.
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>>57087559
Says who? Iono is a ecelebwhore. She would only see them for a bigass sum.
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>>57087513
>And she's not Amethio's girl in any form or capacity
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>>57087567
An E-Celeb whore who only whores herself out to her impressionable kohai.
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>>57087571
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We won.
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>>57087582
She can stab Liko in the back for that though.
Atleast it would be funny
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>>57087589
Well, what's the sauce?
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>>57087589
Suge, Link?
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>>57087592
>>57087594
https://x.com/TottotoNero/status/1866822778583912846/photo/1
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>>57087584
Dot can't even afford that.
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>>57087571
>>57087587
Kino...
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>>57087597
She does it for free of course. Iono has a thing for adorable little recover Hikikomoris after all.
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>>57087596
You are my hero, bro
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>>57087625
If you say so...

Anyways,odds of her tagging along for cloutfarming of Fug?
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>>57087589
I love how you can see each individual article of clothing in the background.
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>>57087504
I envy those Tatsugiri. They're enjoying the ride as Pokémon's quality flushes down the drain.
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Lucius is a hero desu
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>>57087712
Must've been awkward as hell to see all of that.
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>>57087504
Just a small wish in my heart for Yellow to pop in once.
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>>57087596
Note that this will be released on Winter Comiket, that's it December 29th-30th
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>>57087508
God I hope not. She is NOT cute.
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>>57087963
Thank god James is gay, otherwise the implication of him undressing Misty would be bad.
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>>57087789
Perfect finish
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>>57087702
>Lucius is a hero
Died like one too
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Amethio will never do anything.
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>>57087625
>She does it for free of course.
Lol
Lmao
Betting 50 bucks that if Iono in a episode reappears and appears to be helpful without any agenda I'll concede. But any confession or external evidence of Iono being greedy and you will drop the ball
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>>57087544
>You sick fucks want Liko to hold hands with Roy
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>>57088995
Why?
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>>57087504
>That can range from more of SV to the usual promotion parts that can become the PLZA (mini)arc. Or even address Pasio since they went and even featured the PoGo Professor
In that case, more of Café
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>>57089063
Yes, Liko is sick too
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Merry Christmas guys
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>>57089356
Why is Liko on her knees and crying? Did Ash tell her she's also going to get retired and replaced just like he was?
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>>57089395
Gen 10 will be PokeGreece so I am okay with this.

Hopefully they are less casual with sex
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>>57089000
When has Iono been helpful with an agenda when it comes to Dot? Like one of Iono's most endearing traits that while she's actually a lot more considerate than she lets on.
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>>57089395
She need him to come to her show.
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>>57090098
So he can retire again? Smart thinking Liko that's how you can survive to the next gen!
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>>57087529
>Putting aside the PLZA part, there are some parts about Katy and Kofu that I think should deserve the coverage that Grusha got to fleshen out their characters more.
Obvious Food shenanigans put to the side, I understand where you are going with those ones.
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>>57087504
Liko visiting Orre is a pipe dream of mine. Very low odds I know but it would be nice
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>What does Serena has that Liko doesn't?
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With episode 78 around the corner and Horizons entering its third calendar year, let's mourn the loss of the schizoid failsons who LARP'd as insiders trying to cope with the loss of the previous protagonist.
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>>57090187
Lmao
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>>57090124
We are not visiting a Red State. We go to Unova.
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>>57090187
>Went quiet after the announcement of the fourth chapter for the Likonime
You just know that this fag killed himself to escape the humiliation.
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>>57090187
>>57090192
Meanwhile actual insider meeting
>Can this guy please fuck off alreadt
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>>57088145
>Marnie is a nothing character
That's Liko while Bede works as a fun side rival like Georgia and Ursula who were better than edgy rivals like Trip, Alain and Amethio.
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>>57087506
Speaking from the soul here. Crispin can finally score Lacey through Croc's assistance.
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>>57087504
>here are three Tastugiris having a comedic deathwish
Why are Tastugiri so suicidal to begin with?
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>>57087504
>What would you like to see being covered within the Likonime outside of the Rakua stuff?
Well there is a checklist of mine
>Dipping into Nemona vs Roy round 3
>DLC skewl
>Those sealed Pokémon in Paldea
>Final Evos (That's a given)
>Snacksworth
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>>57087495
>Noble Roar of Flame!!
Might become interesting.
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>>57090319
Oh look, Entei beating up three newbies....... Again.
If Entei wins than he will join RVT, if Entei lose than he will join RVT. So what is even the stacks here?
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>>57090338
I've generally enjoyed a lot of Horizons but the battles against the 6 heroes have been uniformly awful and not a good substitute for rival battles/gym battles.
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DotLiko is endgame?
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>>57090370
>pokemon anime battles are awful
what else is new lol. I've been watching from episode 1 all the way back in the 90s and one thing I can tell you for damn certain is that it weren't ever the crappy battles that kept me watching.
I'm just hoping they go back to SM writing style cuz that slice of life stuff was peak
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>>57090338
>Instead of asking why it might be interesting instantly becomes a whiny bitch assuming something else
I know you have trouble accepting that others enjoy the anime but being so fucking pathetic to instantly bark at a post that only says "might" without even referring to any battle only shows how illiterate and insecure you are alongside your already existing hobo issues which I'm guessing is why you're resorting to this, to escape the crippling knowledge that your obsession with ruining discussions of something you can't is only a means to ignore that you ultimately ruined your own life with the same agenda for the last few years. I would say to get a life but even that would be below your nonexistent abilities, Fagmon.
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>>57090187
>tfw remembering they bumped it up from 50 episodes to 60
>tfw remembering the circlejerk around 78
Honestly I don't get this kind of mental gymnastics. If you don't enjoy Liko's anime then just leave and come back for the next gen. It's not like the anime is capable of keeping you a hostage mentally in any sort of way.
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>>57090557
> Point put actual flaws in Horizon.
> " Wa wa, don't criticise Horizon. You have to pretend Horizon is greatest anime ever even if its boring, hypeless and generic to watch".
I didn't hesitate to criticise SM and JN despite Ash winning everything and you think I will give Horizon a clean chit! Who do you think I am ? Sycophant like Moot and PokeRaf?
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>>57090588
>Completely ignored the point
>Brings up ewhores out of nowhere
Rentfree, obsessed and concession accepted. All three types of copes at once is a rarity to accomplish. Grow up.
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>>57090588
The only actual flaw in Horizon is that the cutest pokegirl Ashley hasn't appeared!
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Is Game Serena's tits anywhere near Fumina Hoshino? Maybe it would been better if there was a timeskip with a 14 year old moody teenager Ash (like Jimmy) and teenage Serena with canon big tits like Fumina Hoshino who's dynamic with Ash has change over time. However Yuyama already confirmed there is no aging pokémon world because they has to age all other game characters that Ash met such as Brock, Misty, Dawn , Iris etc etc. This is why I know that leaks about Horizon were fake because there is no way they would do a time skip and age characters. Gen V was the only time when Timeskip could have worked on the anime.
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>>57090616
Not as big as Ashleys once she takes HRT!
Liko and Ashley would be the best friends!
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>>57087504
>What would you like to see being covered within the Likonime outside of the Rakua stuff?
More of the crew, Saguaro, Arven and Nemona.
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>>57087508
Anne might pop in around April.
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>>57087504
There is the obvious part two of the DLC for Liko and the others to traverse so I'll go with more obscure options. Barely anybody played those pseudo Social Links you can form with the teaching staff at the academy because I sure as hell remember only doing it after looking up where to get items and a few of them had the things I needed to train up my Pokemon. Like goddamn, if the only way you can get game characters hooked up is by letting them hold on to items then you have messed up. Might as well take the chance to revamp/expand the concept elsewhere.
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>>57090584
>It's not like the anime is capable of keeping you a hostage mentally in any sort of way.
Oh boy....
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>>57087639
>odds of her tagging along for cloutfarming of Fug?
Fairly sized
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>>57087537
I still believe that the reason Larry is so broke is because he dumps most of his wages in her streams.
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>Liko actually continues to use the Pagogo nickname
Cute
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Three steps that would have removed all the complaints towards Pokemon 2019 --

> Replace Goh with a girl that is more attractive, hotter and bustier than all the previous lead girls.
> Ash defeat past trainer on Pokémon World Championship that he was yet to defeat such as Alain, Sabrina, Tobias etc etc.
> Ash use his opponent own gimmick against them. For example: Mega Lucario vs Mega Metagross against Steven, Z-move Pikachu vs Z-move Kommo-o against Cynthia, G-max Pikachu vs G-max Charizard against Leon.

These would have fixed JN series.
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>>57090716
>Liko actually continues to use the Pagogo nickname
This is something I actually enjoy as someone who religiously nicknames every Pokemon I caught
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>>57087525
Just fucking block her number.
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>>57087513
You're right. That's reserved for Liko
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>>57087495
The storybook was a nice idea to bring both Roy and Liko narratively together for Fug and Rakua
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>>57087560
Liko is not weird, she just has too much of an allowance to spend on Gurumin merch
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>>57087542
>LiBarf?
LiFart?
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>>57090679
And the only ones you would really run to in the academy were Nemona, Penny and Arven anyway.
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>>57087596
So New years eve dump?
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Ameliko suge
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>>57087495
Liko and Amethio battoru when?
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Is Grace's tits as big as Orio? We need to consider JN/HZ's artstyle as well since Officer Jenny's tits on JN were as massive as Orio. I think Koharu's mom and Kikuna also had huge tits.

Its disappointing that HZ failed to introduce busty Milf like Koharu's mom.
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>>57087504
>What would you like to see being covered within the Likonime outside of the Rakua stuff?
More of Liko and Anne. And maybe Nemona
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>>57087559
>Gurumin gets them for free.
She doesn't.
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>That can range from more of SV to the usual promotion parts that can become the PLZA (mini)arc. Or even address Pasio since they went and even featured the PoGo Professor
That would be cool. But I would like the Likonime to dip into untouched towns or locations of the last eight gens like with the Kabu episode
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>>57087506
>Lacey and Crispin
Crispin will never score
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>>57090902
>But I would like the Likonime to dip into untouched towns or locations of the last eight gens like with the Kabu episode
This but for the spin-off regions
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>>57090755
Anne getting cucked from her love interest would be too cruel
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How come the last two episodes were genuinely funny?
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https://x.com/Sunblister16/status/1868421284159193170
I'll raise an additional point.

The fact that Ash has been frozen as a character is another reason why it'd be very difficult to do a post-Championship arc- which is probably why he had to leave. Can you imagine the post-OS character suffering from the pressure or keeping up appearances? Or something like that?
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>>57091147
>How come the last two episodes were genuinely funny?
Because they are fun?
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>>57090679
Liko and the others might do the whole sets of minigames from SV, that's atleast 4 or 5 episodes
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>>57090915
>Anne getting cucked from her love interest would be too cruel
That's why it could happen lmao
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>>57090679
>There is the obvious part two of the DLC for Liko and the others to traverse so I'll go with more obscure options. Barely anybody played those pseudo Social Links you can form with the teaching staff at the academy because I sure as hell remember only doing it after looking up where to get items and a few of them had the things I needed to train up my Pokemon. Like goddamn, if the only way you can get game characters hooked up is by letting them hold on to items then you have messed up. Might as well take the chance to revamp/expand the concept elsewhere.
That's a sentiment I can get behind. The teaching staff is ok but goddamn locking their asses behind something that no one would willingly enter out of their own volition is retarded
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>>57087529
Honestly this. Give them some more solid ground to max out their characterizations.
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>>57090187
Did the guy ever react to the Game Freak leaks?
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>>57090207
That was actually hilarious in hindsight, how people in the meetings were actually ready to dump Ash, they just didn't know how to, especially when they were scared of Ashfags doing arson on them.
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>>57091150
The only people that wanted him gone were self inserter who wanted to shove their wish fulfilment OC. Just like Digimon Adventure 02 The beginning screwed itself to shove a chuuni OC and insisting everything that happened on Digimon adventure was because of this OC made a wish.

Even during MPM, Ash was several times better protagonist than the entire cast of Pokémon Horizon.
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>>57091223
Why do you think he went radio silent? It destroyed his narrative big time
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>>57091197
>The teaching staff is ok but goddamn locking their asses behind something that no one would willingly enter out of their own volition is retarded
Agreed. Get them the fuck out of that place. Run into Liko and the others a few times. Call in when a situation arrives. Just anything except the shitty academy
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>>57087589
Roy won
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>>57087560
>how weird Liko is.
Don't call her loving her family weird.
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>>57087495
The storybook of a fucking hero named Lucius
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>>57087712
>>57087717
Gibeon didn't give a shit. Maybe he did but that would probably be covered in later episodes.
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>>57087552
You sick bastard. This is a blue board!
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>>57091422
I'm surprised Liko is able to handle the smell.
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>>57091150
Since his arc has finally ended and the 30th anniversary of the franchise is just around the corner, I can see them finally aging him up and actually let him learn from his experience when they bring him back.

Side note: I want Rie Matsumoto to write his return. Oh, and never let Yuyama to touch anipoke ever again.
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>>57091150
>The fact that Ash has been frozen as a character is another reason why it'd be very difficult to do a post-Championship arc- which is probably why he had to leave

Even during MPM , Ash had more character than the entire cast of Pokemon Horizon. His only actual flaw was his current interaction with people which wasn't as fun as OS Ash however that's a problem that every character has in current pokemon anime and not just Ash's problem.

In fact, the entire cast of Horizon has been frozen as a character since the start of Horizon. Liko still has no actual goal yet and Roy just wants Black Rayquaza because the plot says so.

People believed that old Ash has returned on MPM episode 02, why? Because Ash and Misty interacted the same way as they did in the original series, not because Ash revert back to old Ash. At the end the answer is right front of us, Ash just needs to interact with people the same way original Ash did.
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>>57091318
Gibeon might send Spinel or any of the other admins off for Liko after Amethio fumbled the ball.
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>>57090767
Fair enough. I got so fucking bored when I entered the Academy because not only is the design bad but also the loading times for every single room or facility.
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>>57091320
>This is a blue board!
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>>57091579
Lewd!
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>>57090759
>The storybook was a nice idea to bring both Roy and Liko narratively together for Fug and Rakua
Well that and their low opinion of Friede's job
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>>57091594
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>>57091183
Yeah but I feel like all previous episodes that tried to be fun(ny) didn't really succeed. It's like there's a new writer or something.
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>>57090679
>>57091197
>>57091298
>Engaging with the game's content? No one wants to do that!
You guys are joking, right?
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>>57091643
I never said to not engage with the game's content. I just fucking hated the way the academy was handled. The long ass time it took to start the three storylines were boring as balls, the loading times and low frames were a turn-off, what was the point of it having interiors if all you do is press A about fourteen times in total and then there's no fucking point in going to the buildings anymore, you realistically only go to do the courses which are even below toddler-tier easy shit without any consideration to what status quo your progress is so it remains a static predictable chore, they don't even have anything like animated cutscenes for a little bit of immersion like Nemona, Penny or Arven does and that is ignoring the fact that the last thing anyone would have on their mind when playing or watching Pokemon is fucking school.

If this is "joking" to you, then yeah I am joking big time.
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>>57091643
What >>57091681 said. Excluding the fact that most of the material inside of the school is a chore or is teased and presented in such an underwhelming manner that by the time main campaign forces you to return to the buillding you'll see the NPC to the side of the receptionist and think to yourself:"Oh.Yeah, those courses were a thing. Might as well get over them", only to be met with dissapointing button mashing because 95% of them is stuff you already know. The only remaining 5% is just from the language course and that depends on the language you're even playing the game.

You would think that after having smaller versions of school, which were already on the low count of being memorable or even being engaging, they would provide a better experience. But they somehow turned it into a mindless button-mash chore.
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>>57090187
>>57090207
>>57091264

For me the most hilarious part of the leaks was
>Ishihara has wanted to get rid of Ash for 10 years
>AFAIK, it's been 20 years actually!
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>>57091681
>>57091702
Those posts are so accurate it hurts
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>>57091282
Based self-inserting Chuuni Exec Ishihara!
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>>57091462
Ricca is a singer-songwriter. Not a scriptwriter. I'm welcome to her ideas but get an expert to filter her ideas better to hire Mari Okada
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>>57091814
You should do the same thing like that hobo and get a job, useless Aussie shitter.
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>>57091832
>get a job
I have a job. Need a way to pay my mobile bill.
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>>57091840
>Phonefag
Explains your low IQ
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>>57091702
>You would think that after having smaller versions of school, which were already on the low count of being memorable or even being engaging, they would provide a better experience.
Adding salt to injury, the gym iterations that were a skewl already showcased how the modern iterations of those settings would even be like in a Pokemon game: just a chore than anything else.
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>>57091558
>Gibeon might send Spinel or any of the other admins off for Liko after Amethio fumbled the ball.
Thats something I could count on. Maybe Agate since after Spinel she is more in line to do just that. Then again the explorers seem to undermine each other so Amethio might step in front of Liko
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>>57090124
Liko and the others might come around to regions which are context-appropriate for Fug and Rakua.
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>>57091681
>>57091702
It's just flavour text. Of course it's toddler tier but somis the rest of the game. At least it's presented in a charming way. So I don't really get the problem. I did all the school stuff before I even beat the league.
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Sonano?
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>>57092036
>It's just flavour text
And with all those minigames in the past, with a literal minigame existing that includes a semi fitness section with the player, you would think that they would add more than just flavour text to a fucking academy. But they didn't. They had over three 3D generations worth of material to implement for the school and they did nothing with it. NOTHING! Not even something like battling with preset Pokemon or the sorts to understand mechanics or showing off gimmicks. NOTHING!
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>>57092046
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>>57092074
This
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>>57090598
All you did was rant and insulting me, you didn't address anything that I have actually said on my post

There is no hype with Entei episode since it will join the RVT regardless the outcome and there probably going to be a flashback showing how Lucius to be the most important thing in the pokemon world. There is no stake, no hype, just another episode with legendary pokemon defeating bunch of newbies.
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>>57092234
>Entei episode
hype. Ash wishes he was this good
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>>57092234
You're just closed-minded. If Horizons was the exact same show, except Ash was the protagonist instead of Liko, I'm sure you will be praising it to the heavens. Just admit already the main reason you like Horizons is because it doesn't have Ash, and all of your "complaints" boil down to Ash being retired.
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>>57092264
Ash won the league on SM series and become world champion on JN series. Guess what? I still criticise both series for their sloppy writing and you think I will give clean chit to Pokemon Horizon! Who do you think I am ? A sycophant?
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>>57092264
He'd still be complaining about Amethio and Friede being another Alain or crying that Liko should have big breasts and longer hair and love Ash.
It's never good enough unless Ash has 6 legendaries and is known as a hero but we all know Ash was never as cool as Lucius heck he couldn't even defeat a single hydreigon
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>>57092264
>>57092297
Honestly just ignore. It worked the best and he's just repeating himself now multiple times in the same thread like a broken record, honestly not worth the attention he's craving for.
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>>57092074
>And with all those minigames in the past, with a literal minigame existing that includes a semi fitness section with the player, you would think that they would add more than just flavour text to a fucking academy. But they didn't. They had over three 3D generations worth of material to implement for the school and they did nothing with it.
That is probably the biggest contra I have with SV alongside the obvious performance and gameplay issues. They've spent time making a big ass area that needs to be loaded in seperately while unloading the previous location because it's so poorly optimized. And to make up for it, they just copypasted shops and facilities that are just as accessible outside of the Mesagoza area too. The only unique features about that place is the NPC that gives you Rotom cases (Which hardly will be noticed unless you do it early on to see it getting pulled out everytime for a call cutscene and even then it's barely a dent in the overall attention span which is already sorely lacking) and the academy which as one anon already described is just flavor text city instead of actually being a gameplay-wise diverse academy.

Mesagoza and the Academy has so many problems design-wise I am not surprised that Arven and Nemona are the hot cakes of SV because you know that they atleast tried to give a shit about them.
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>>57092377
That post just about sums it up right.
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>>57092377
I will never understand why it's such a downgrade in regards to rewards for having different save game data. I mean shit, even the gen 4 remake gives out Pokemon for having the different games to just giving you the chance to replicate the Arceus event if you 100% the PLA game. It's not funny how in SV it's just Rotomphone cases.
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>>57092289
>Who do you think I am ? A sycophant?
Unironically? Yes.

>>57092322
I normally ignore him, but it seems he's really *really* persistent. Even when he's ignored it does not faze him at all, as if there's nothing that can stop him.
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Imagine --

-- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LnMIaFV4q6M
-- The red head is Ash.
-- Long hair girl is Dot.
-- The guy is Liko.
-- All those characters are RVT crew.
-- That round bot is Rotomdex.
-- The Gundam is Iron Valiant.
-- Plot summary : Take place after an arc has downer climax where Liko is at her lowest point and RVT is on the verge of breaking up until Liko meets Ash.
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>>57092475
No seriously, just don't pay attention to him. Doing the opposite has set him off to begin with.
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>>57092475
>Unironically? Yes
A sycophant trying to call other people sycophant .
>>57092475
>Even when he's ignored it does not faze him at all, as if there's nothing that can stop him.
Because I don't care about your attention, I want to say how exactly I feel about the show.
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>>57092402
>I will never understand why it's such a downgrade in regards to rewards for having different save game data.
I don't get it either. BDSP handed out Jirachi, Mew and Arceus, Swsh handed Pikachu and Meowth, SV is just shitty rotomphone cases.

I mean sure, you needed to 100% PLA for Arceus but that's a +1 net-bonus wise
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Didn't somebody compiled a large-ass list of the problems with SV, even with the added updates and DLC?
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Liko better gets ready to run from her cat once she hits the final stage. And Hattrem probably following suit to demolish the cat while Liko looks on the chaos.
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>>57091626
Maybe that's just you, I found the other ones funny.
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>>57092113
Based
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The 6 heroes have been the most boring part of Horizons. I would much prefer to see the roster of LiRoyDot grow. Something we lost over the years was the spontaneity of Ash or one of his friends deciding to catch a Pokémon for the sake of it. After a certain point, there had to be an emotional meet-cute or no capture.

From a storytelling (which Pokémon has never told interesting stories) perspective I get giving each capture more of a story, but the fact that Horizons has yet to show a Pokémon being battled, weakened, and caught in the traditional sense is a bit of a missed opportunity. People hated on the captures in JN but it was the only anipoke series in the past decade to even DEPICT traditional captures-through-battle.
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The worst part of horizons is the lack of Kieran melties.
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>>57092036
Flavour text can only go so far. First time with idk Jacq? It's fine. Second time is pushing it and from there it becomes a chore. If it was presented in a passive manner like the endgame where the frens hold the conversation WHILE descending down Area Zero it would've been a bit more bearable but no. You're forced to be sat down and swallow it. Not even unique animations beyond maybe a pose or two in the battle.
SV has a lot of problems and most of them can't even be handwaved with the hardware excuse.
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>>57092526
>Liko better gets ready to run from her cat once she hits the final stage. And Hattrem probably following suit to demolish the cat while Liko looks on the chaos.
Liko probably will die from the affection her brute waifumons will provide.
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>>57090679
>>57091681
>>57091702
>>57092074
>>57092611
SVbros, what the fuck is this?
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>>57091305
>Liko should prepare a bit more. A dark type cat would prevent friendly fire murder.
She already has trouble keeping the turtle from committing mass murder, that's not exactly feasible anytime soon
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>>57092629
>SVbros
Unicorns aren't real bro. SVbros only exist either ironically or whenever Palworld is mentioned.
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>>57092520
80% of that list is bait. This isn't a genwar thread.
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>>57091589
Is it even smart of Liko and Roy to diss the guy who provides them a means of transportation towards Rakua and other stops?
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>>57092644
>Is it even smart of Liko and Roy to diss the guy who provides them a means of transportation towards Rakua and other stops?
Of course not.
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>>57091315
STOP! STOP THIS AT ONCE YOU SICKO! LIKO IS 13!
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>>57092644
Of course it is.
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Dot should just fuck Liko already.
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>>57092730
Kek
Wait, does that mean Amethio will be cucked?
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>>57092940
He already has Anne
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>game freak creates a school setting
>tons of students and teachers
>pretty hefty backstory for Arven
>an evocative setting in Area Zero that'd make a pretty good series finale
and the anime team decides to make this horrendous airship snoozefest. Wake up. This shit is HORRIBLE. Liko sucks, Roy sucks, Friede is more of an action figure than a character, our villains are both unfunny and not threatening, Rakua is just a grassy field, legendary spam is what ruined the movies and now it's flooded the show, and there's been ONE good fight over the course of two years.

SV was built for a real adaptation, not to support this made-up-as-it-goes-along Terapagos story. I applauded them for starting fresh with new protagonists but that doesn't stop this show from being a dirty diaper.
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>>57093093
>School setting
No kid likes to think about school when they want to PLAY
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>>57092629
The truth
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>>57092611
>Flavour text can only go so far. First time with idk Jacq? It's fine. Second time is pushing it and from there it becomes a chore. If it was presented in a passive manner like the endgame where the frens hold the conversation WHILE descending down Area Zero it would've been a bit more bearable but no. You're forced to be sat down and swallow it. Not even unique animations beyond maybe a pose or two in the battle.
>SV has a lot of problems and most of them can't even be handwaved with the hardware excuse.
SV is without doubt my least favourite region which is why I am kinda glad that the anime has the chance to do their own thing which I like.
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>>57093115
This would hold water if Horizons wasn't the least playful series by a huge margin. Kids also like school settings, haven't you ever heard of a little series called Harry Potter? What about My Hero Academia? I'm pretty sure Pokémon Sun and Moon figured out how to do a school setting without making it feel like actual school.
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>No kid likes to think about school when they want to PLAY
This so much. Anyone who justifies a school as a central zone for Pokemon deserves their head to be caved in. Eight fucking generations wasn't a school needed for Pokemon and forcing my ass into a mediocre ass school setting isnt gonna make me like it more. When I was a kid I did school, maybe homework and that's all the time I spent thinking about it, everything else was what they are supposed to be. Video games for playing a GAME. You mean that I can no longer learn shit about Pokemon or other mechanics on the fly? You want me to stay put in a room to digest it like you try to digest a fucking apple? Bullshit, they handed out fucking adventure journals and other shit for the player to learn from in the handheld era and I sure as hell didn't needed a school setting to get it. That's the same shit why Pokemon loses it's edge because we can't have somewhat complicated language or other potentially compromising figures in a school setting.

Take your school melodrama and keep it the fuck away from my Pokemon game, if you want school drama to pretend to wish it were you go play Persona or any other of that gay pseudo dating shit.
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>>57093123
I don't give a flying crap about Parry Hotter or My Cuck Dementia. If you want a school setting for a show then go watch one explicitly made with one in mind, don't force Pokemon to copy that shit
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>>57093172
>Take your school melodrama and keep it the fuck away from my Pokemon game, if you want school drama to pretend to wish it were you go play Persona or any other of that gay pseudo dating shit.
Based. Fuck em
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>>57093172
Adding onto that, you know how even SWORD AND SHIELD asked politely the Player if they knew about Pokejobs and if you answer yes, they skipped the explaination because that segment. Just a small bit that makes it stand out a lot fucking more than SV's even more disgusting handholding because WOOAAHH YOU NEED TO SEE THE ACADEMY YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO GTFO IMMEDIATELY
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>>57093093
I wouldn't want the anime to ruin the game's story, though. I'm glad it's doing its own thing.
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>>57093186
>"kids hate school settings!"
>list two extremely popular children's properties that take place at schools
>"FUCK YOU!! I HATE SCHOOL SETTINGS!!"
lol record time goalpost shifting
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>>57093221
>kids hate school settings
I said "don't like to think about school" you illiterate sack of shit.
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>>57093221
>Projecting
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>>57093172
>>57093203
YAMEROOOO
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>>57091868
>Then again the explorers seem to undermine each other so Amethio might step in front of Liko
That was one time, twice is a coincidence and three times is a pattern. Amethio have helped Liko out but that was over Spinel who had started shit with both Liko and him
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>>57093172
Sounds like a (You) problem. I liked going to school. I even miss school, as a 33 year old geezer. I really liked SVs setting.
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>>57093172
Please, school settings would have made anime feel realistic and relatable. Specially if it takes place in an actual schools and not whatever Alola school supposed to be.


Ash having new year party with Nemona, Arven, Penny & Team Star boss > Entei beating up Liko, Roy and Dot's pokémon.
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>>57093172
>You mean that I can no longer learn shit about Pokemon or other mechanics on the fly? You want me to stay put in a room to digest it like you try to digest a fucking apple? Bullshit, they handed out fucking adventure journals and other shit for the player to learn from in the handheld era and I sure as hell didn't needed a school setting to get it. That's the same shit why Pokemon loses it's edge because we can't have somewhat complicated language or other potentially compromising figures in a school setting.
Spoken from the heart. Pokemon stays Pokemon, but make sure to keep the repetitive cancerous school garbage out of it.
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>>57093172
Can't deny it, I legit button mashed every single lesson because there weren't even any consequences or a repeat loop from getting something wrong.

While Arven, Nemona and Penny are nice you could've ripped the school shit away from them and only Penny would have been affected by it while the other two would be fine. Liko and Arven meeting sooner or later is what I am standing for.
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>>57093172
>they handed out fucking adventure journals and other shit for the player to learn from in the handheld era and I sure as hell didn't needed a school setting to get it.
And you're not even getting cucked from playing the game until you've read it. They trusted the player more than enough to do this on their own but ironically and hilariously enough, every Pokemon "school" bullcrap is so bland and basic that it makes you feel dumber than getting to know about Pokemon.
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>>57093172
Yeah seeing this post makes me happy about the different approach of the Likonime and that is excluding the fact that they made what-if scenario of the Tera course that Nemona made the Player skip. Sure you can have it but atleast change up how it's used because goddamn the game version was terrible.
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School Setting could work. To improve the Pokemon anime, according to experts, we need to copy what is popular.

You know what is popular rn? GIRL Bands. GAY GIRL Bands. Like MyGo. Everyone likes MyGo. It's like Bandori only this time a good anime.

So....Dot goes to school and the only things she is good at is streaming about Pokemon and playing a guitar.

She gets invited into a band by Nemona (who is outgoing, lesbian). Later on, Liko joins (who is lesbian, outgoing and popular) And they form a girl band.

Hugging every episode
Hand holding every third episode.

There. I've made you a billion yen.

Would sell hotcakes, and this is Actually Reality. Now send me some tickets to Africa.
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Liko a poopy
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>>57093581
The school setting is also just an easy excuse for the characters to meet and bond. It was an east set up for all 3 main characters to cross with you at the beginning so you could start all 3 stories at the same time. It's just a simple solution in terms of writing. It would be harder to come up with reasons why you would meet everyone.
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> Ash goes to Naranja Uva Academy to attend the Terastal course.
> Learn about mysterious pokemon sighted in the sky.
> Tries to find it only to meet Juliana who is also looking for it.
> They race to find it first which leads them to an injured Koraidon/Miraidon.
> Team Rocket shenanigans happens.
> They meet Arven who give them Koraidon/Miraidon's pokeball.
> They meet Arven again trying to battle a Titan pokemon.
> They learn about Arven's sick pokemon and decide to help him locate other titan pokemon to find herbal mystica.
> They are contacted by Cassiopeia who give them location for all the titan pokemon but in return the trio has to do something for Cassiopeia which often involves Team Star.
> Ash battle Iono, Larry and Grusha for Terastal training.
> Juliana was a gym challenger until her humiliating defeat against Grusha combined with his harsh word made her quit.
> Juliana took treasure hunt to gain her confidence back.

Pokemon 2023 if the anime followed the game.
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>>57091681
>I never said to not engage with the game's content. I just fucking hated the way the academy was handled. The long ass time it took to start the three storylines were boring as balls, the loading times and low frames were a turn-off, what was the point of it having interiors if all you do is press A about fourteen times in total and then there's no fucking point in going to the buildings anymore, you realistically only go to do the courses which are even below toddler-tier easy shit without any consideration to what status quo your progress is so it remains a static predictable chore, they don't even have anything like animated cutscenes for a little bit of immersion like Nemona, Penny or Arven does and that is ignoring the fact that the last thing anyone would have on their mind when playing or watching Pokemon is fucking school.
That shit is too true. I swear if you're gonna add so much walls of text in a game atleast add something to it
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>>57093752
>Liko a poopy
What?
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>>57092613
>Liko probably will die from the affection her brute waifumons will provide.
And Terapagos will blow her head off
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>>57092730
>>57092940
Amethiofrens....
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>>57092644
Why wouldn't Liko&Roy do that?
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>>57093244
Why? Should I go on about how the fucking academy does jackshit in the long run because by the postgame you will use the tournament facility only once and then get the fuck out because it doesn't even offer anything worthwhile to repeat it? Or nothing like a Senpai of newer students popping in?
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>>57094461
Dot's girlfriend.
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>>57093172
>T. School droppout
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>>57094677
>Doesn't deny it
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>>57093172
This post goes hard.
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>>57094742
Sounds like i hit too close at home
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>>57094755
I wouldn't continue playing dumb if I were you.
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>>57094309
Jesus Christ, SV ages horribly.
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>>57094759
Thanks for proving my point even further
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>>57093172
>>No kid likes to think about school when they want to PLAY
You're either a zoomer or very delusional if you think kids don't like fantasy school
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>>57094769
>If I pretend I am right it will become true
Rofl you're even more miserable than I thought. Want me to slap down my money that I get from having a certified job while you're continue the babbling?
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>>57094790
What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>57091868
>Maybe Agate since after Spinel she is more in line to do just that. Then again the explorers seem to undermine each other so Amethio might step in front of Liko
I find it slightly alarming that Liko pends between getting fucked or having the worst luck ever on Amethio's situation.
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>>57094804
Meds now
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>>57093581
>While Arven, Nemona and Penny are nice you could've ripped the school shit away from them and only Penny would have been affected by it while the other two would be fine.
That's honestly the kicker to how useless the academy as a whole is. The walls of text could've been pasted elsewhere in a better situation and pacing, the teaching staff could've gone out a lot more often like Jacq despite the latter only really doing it in DLC-city.
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>>57094823
And the whole part of multiple lessons being poorly split up
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>>57094816
He's going to goalpo-
yup i was right
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>>57094845
>Says eveyone is the same poster
>I-I DON'T NEED MEDS!!!
lol
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>>57094810
>I find it slightly alarming that Liko pends between getting fucked or having the worst luck ever on Amethio's situation.
She atleast has someone. Potentially.
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>>57094872
Anon what part of "Ignore Famon" wasn't clear to you?
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>>57094898
>It's because you got proven wrong and now you're moving to goalpost?
Yup
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>>57094904
I accept your concession then
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>>57093172
>Seething replies stacking up
KEKAROOOO
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>>57094933
>Multy-replying faggot
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>>57094823
>That's honestly the kicker to how useless the academy as a whole is. The walls of text could've been pasted elsewhere in a better situation and pacing, the teaching staff could've gone out a lot more often like Jacq despite the latter only really doing it in DLC-city.
That the latter part was something you had to pay for money also speaks a lot about the afterthought the academy was.
>>57094932
Dorks
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>>57094947
Nta but yeah, the academy blew balls big time.
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>>57092512
>I don't get it either. BDSP handed out Jirachi, Mew and Arceus, Swsh handed Pikachu and Meowth, SV is just shitty rotomphone cases.
I would have forgiven it if it was something related to the regions like those pokeballs you usually only get for Pokeballs that aren't available in another game from PLA or some actually usable items from BDSP save files. Bonus points for progression bonuses since they knew how to code them for PLA's save data too
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Big melty time
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>>57094962
Ok seriously, what part of discussing the games >>57094960 is considered "big melty time"?
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>>57094978
Why the fuck do you think i'm talking about that
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>>57094960
>Bonus points for progression bonuses since they knew how to code them for PLA's save data too
That's actually a valid point. They could've done something similar with BDSP to SV or PLA to SV since they have a reference for PLA to BDSP too
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>>57092642
I wasn't talking about THAT list, I was talking about the one that featured the press release statement from Gamefreak about internal affairs and how to improve their working conditions in the future which turned out to only be a blatant PR-speech that got blindly accepted and then shoved under the rug to be forgotten?
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>>57095012
I don't know what is more depressing, that they only bothered to code 100% data bonuses only once like most features they did for each gen or the knowledge that unless they get a clear response for it will never be featured again?
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>>57092642
>80% of that list is bait.
What isn't bait on this board?
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>>57095027
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. The leak had basically no content about SV cause the leaker didn't want to leak stuff that is still ongoing or not released yet so I don't think that's real.
Maybe you're talking about the chatlog about the movie that was cancelled?
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>>57095066
I wasn't talking about the Teraleaks. Gamefreak gave officially a statement after SV's release about their working forces or something among the lines of their development but before the Teraleaks happened.
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>>57095129
I think I found the article covering it: https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/pokemon-company-game-releases-takato-utsunomiya-interview/
If this interview is true then it's another Lie. Because through the Teraleaks did it came forth that they haven't slowed down for ZA's development and that it was just below SV's devtime of three years.
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>>57089356
> Liko : Please come to my show. Roy's singing is annoying, Friede creeps me out and people keep calling me a Mary Sue
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>>57095129
>>57095239
If this is legit then I've lost any sort of trust in every speech they're giving. This is beyond disgusting
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What is going on in this thread?
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>>57095392
Talking about the games >>57095239
and the anime? Are we not supposed to do that?
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>>57095416
Eh, fair. Things are just a lot angrier than they usually are in these threads.
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>>57095239
>Tfw read through the article
This is disgusting.
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Dorko?
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>>57095239
Didn't the leaks say that that was originally the case, but they ended up going back to polish it? Or am I misremembering?
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>>57095609
They said it but the overlaps between timestamps and the latest builds revealed it is only gonna have the same amount of time as SV
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>>57095239
I don't get it, this seems like a good statement? And considering there will be a 3 year gap between SV and ZA, it seems to be true? What are we mad about?
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I like Dot.
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>>57095823
Three years is the same time it took for SV and you saw what a technical disaster it was. This is gonna be a repeat all over again with crunch time veiled under the pretense of better conditions
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>>57095831
Liko...
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>>57095871
But ZA is not a mainline title. There were 3 years between SwSh and SV AND PLA in the same year SV released. But we haven't even heard of gen 10 yet. So how was it a lie?
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>>57095943
They list the Legends game as mainline titles. And no matter how you bend it, if you consider how PLA ran with barely beneath three years of devtime you can only imagine how little is improved with 3 years flat.
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So is Roy going to become world champion or is he going to not care about it even though he could easily win it like Goh? Because at this point it's obvious that it looks like getting Rayquaza means he's strong enough to one shot Leon's whole team.
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What did I miss about the deleted posts
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>>57096308
Some retard had a meltdown and another retard kept making things worse just for the fun of it
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>>57095831
Iono....
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Xavier when?
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>>57087582
Ann will never be cute.
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>>57091825
I meant Rie, the director of the GOTCHA! music video.
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Hi, I've not watched much of the pokemon anime. How does the anime handle switching pokemon mid-battle? Is it free or are there penalties? Does the new anime do it differently than the old anime?
I'm talking about official battles not like villain battles or something like that.
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>>57097976
There hasn't been that many official battles. The 2v2s so far have both trainers being allowed to switch freely.
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>>57091462
You still don't get it.
In order to age Ash, the anime has to age everybody he met including the game characters which is hard to do without the approval of the game.
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Spinel when?
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>>57093093
Horizon is the result of anime staff not understanding the difference between a long running anime and a seasonal anime. If the producer can't understand the nature of an anime then they can't do justice to it. Just like Murata ruined OnePunch Man because he never understood One's true vision with a series.
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>>57093093
>>game freak creates a school setting
But they did almost nothing with it. The school itself plays barely any part in the game.
And don't even pretend the actual main story of SV was any good. Arven's sob story and Kieran's mental break was all that really happened.
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>>57098205
>Arven's sob story and Kieran's mental break was all that really happened.
And those were good stories, yes.
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>>57098395
It's just a shame that they don't really matter to the plot at all so ultimately it's worthless.
Who cares if Arven has mommy/daddy issues? Who cares if Kieran has insecurity and chuuni issues? Nobody, really. You could erase them from the games and the story would remain the same.
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>>57098395
Team Star story was better.
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>>57098402
I mean Arven's story is heavily linked to the box legendary and Area Zero, which also has a very elaborate plot and thought put into it.
And why do things have to matter on a grand scheme of things? Do you really want to go back to stupid plots about time gods? This kinda stuff has way more substance.
>>57098428
It's the worst of the three storylines. It doesn't even make any sense. The former director was a total retard. They should've made him evil or something.
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>>57098436
I'm sorry anon but are you really saying spoiled children crying over the world not going their way has more substance than history, mythology, and warfare?
I'd ask if you were a woman but those don't exist here.
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>>57098402
Who care about Rakua and some guy from the past trying to find it? Who care about Liko being born with magical destiny? Who care that some newbie named Roy trying to catch a freaking Rayquaza?

At least Arven and Kieran's story are compelling enough for people to give a dam about them. Pokémon 2023 shoving a wish fulfillment fanfic about a Mary Sue getting everything handed to her because of her magical bloodline.
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>>57098461
Anon that's pretty gay.
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>>57098483
No.
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>>57094254
> Ash's early pokemon would be Bombirdier and Charcabet.
> Ash use Tera Electric Pikachu to defeat Iono's Tera Electric Mismagious in his first Terastal battle.
> He defeat Larry with his Tera Rock Bombirdier boosted by Rocky Payload.
> His battle with Grusha will be personal due to how he made Juliana quit. Ash's Charcabet defeat Grusha in a way that makes him see the flaw of his ideology.
> Ash's next pokemon would be Capsakid , 30 Paldean Tauros (10 of each breed) and a shiny three segment Dudunsparce.
> He will catch 30 Paldean Tauros by accident during his attempt to catch a Dunsparce as a nod his thirty Tauros.
> His final pokemon will be Iron Valiant.
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>>57098512
>We want the Ashime audience
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>>57098402
Arven and Kieran are fine but the latter's emotional baggage was turned a notch too much near the end only to get handwaved in a minute
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>>57098442
>spoiled children
How on earth are they spoiled children? Did you even play the game? Arven is literally a severe child neglect victim and Kieran appears to have no parents and is raised by his grandparents and mainly by his borderline abusive sister.
>history, mythology, and warfare
SV also features all of these, the first two quite prominently even. What are you on about?
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>>57098569
A child can be both neglected and spoiled. It's actually the most common.
Anyways, you seem to prefer girly drama over actual stories so I don't see a reason to argue this with you. Some people prefer LoTR, some people prefer Twilight
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>>57098575
>A child can be both neglected and spoiled.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Also you're conveniently ignoring my second point, which makes me think you're only shutting this conversation down cause I called out your bad faith argument.
If SV was ONLY about character drama I would be inclined to agree with you partially at least, but they clearly put quite some thought into Paldea's history, especially myths about Area Zero.
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>>57098587
>What the fuck are you talking about?
If you can't understand nuance then I can't help you. Someone who beds sixty women a day can still be the loneliest man around.
>Also you're conveniently ignoring my second point
Not really, because you didn't have a second point. One-off mentions about things that vaguely happened in the far past that are never expanded upon aren't "features" unless you're arguing in bad faith.
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>>57098512
Ash x Dawn!
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>>57098596
>Someone who beds sixty women a day can still be the loneliest man around.
How is that remotely comparable to Arven being alone for basically all of his childhood? Please point out where Arven was apparently spoiled in his life.
>Not really, because you didn't have a second point.
You really didn't play the game, did you? There's literally a history class. There's tons of stuff about Area Zero. And then there's additional lore about the history of Paldea, such as the Treasures of Ruin (which was definitely half-baked, but it was there)
You're just handwaving the entire story as "Arven's sob story" while complaining the lack of "serious issues" when Area Zero has a literal kill count, including the character that is basically the core of the plot (Sada/Turo).
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>>57098618
>How is that remotely comparable
If you don't understand then you'll never understand. Your upbringing has failed you.
>There's literally a history class
Not only is it irrelevant to the game, it also barely tells us anything. It regurgitates what the player already knows about area zero and paldea's history which is basically nothing.
Can you tell us what area zero really is? Can you tell us what that crystal tree is? Can you tell us the true lore of ancient paldea? No, you really can't.
The Treasures of Ruin are the most complete bits of lore there are and even they're full of gaps.

But all of this is still better than hearing about spoiled child version 108a cry about mildly unhappy but still wealthy upbringing version 201c. Oh boohoo mommy bought me a ferrari but didn't spend the time to wish me a very merry unbirthday. Wah wah I'm a complete nonce who yells at people to get my way and I can't understand why Ogrepon doesn't like me. Cry me a fucking river. I'd rather see AZ properly animated.
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>>57098512
After masterflop ex and ricoflop I'm not surprised that they do the following series without humanflops, the last episode was trending quagsire and clodsire in japan nobody cares those OC humanflops
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Ash returns and revealed that being the world champion caused new set of problems for him such as --

> Many regular trainers refuse to battle Ash due to his status as champion, the same thing that happens to Nemona.
> Paparazzi constantly stalk Ash everywhere.
> He often get surrounded by his fans.
> Leon's diehard fans harass Ash online.
> Ash got to work on some commercial and movie which lead him to see the dark side of entertainment industry.
> Ash is constantly pressured to maintain his image as a champion.

Basically all the problems that young celebrities faces when they get too famous.
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>>57098625
>Y-you just don't understand...
It's obvious you can't answer my question. Cute deflection though.
>Can you tell us what area zero really is?
Yes. A deep creater in the middle of Paldea formed about two million years ago. As of at least 2000 years ago, humans rumored that there was an incredible treasure at the bottom of the crater. Back then, the Paldean empire tried to retrieve said treasure, but failed to do so even after 1000 years, which led to the empire's decline. It wasn't until 200 years ago that an expedition team managed to successfully venture to the crater. The leader of the expedition, Heath, even managed to see the very bottom of the crater, containing an entity nothing like anything ever seen before. However, the contents of his book sounded too fantastical, and people believed Heath to be a liar. With that, interest in the crater waned. About 60 years ago, the Terastal phenomenon was witnessed in Area Zero. That sparked a new interest in research of the crater, which ultimately led to Sada/Turo's achievements. They found out that Terapagos used to live in the depth of the crater - a species of Turtle Pokémon that went functionally extinct due to tectonic shifts.
>Can you tell us what that crystal tree is?
A cool looking asset that people thought would have some significance, but simply doesn't. It just a prop that looks nice. No idea why people got hung up over it.
>Can you tell us the true lore of ancient paldea?
What do you consider "the true lore"? What's missing according to you?
>The Treasures of Ruin are the most complete bits of lore there are and even they're full of gaps.
They really aren't "the most complete" at all. It's all vague info about some kind of king that has no relevancy in other parts of Paldean history. It was definitely really rushed, which is a shame. But it does establish that Paldea practiced trade with "eastern countries", which is not only a parallel to Iberia, but is also a recurring plot point in Teal Mask
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>>57098678
It could still work if he wears a disguise to hide himself and pretends to be Roy's girlfriend to escape from paparrazi but ends up actually falling in love with Roy but is afraid of Roy finding out he's a boy so Ash keeps pretending to be a girl
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>>57098689
This isn't a very good OP...
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>>57098689
Retard coomer
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>>57098687
None of this explains what Area Zero actually is. Did you even read what your Google AI Overview search gave you or did you paste it without a second thought?
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Anyone feel like Liko has been neglected in the latest arc? Dot and Roy get the majority of battle/strategy moments while Liko just stands around until the Terapagos plot continues so she can be relevant again. It's difficult to watch, ngl.
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>>57098698
Better, non-coomer thread

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>>57098699
I wrote the entire text myself.
I don't know what you want to hear. It's a naturally formed crater where Terapagos used to live. What else do you expect it to be?
And you're ignoring all my other points and questions again. Just say you don't like getting proven wrong. I've already spared you of pointing out your weird headcanon about Arven being wealthy because I was at the character limit.
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>>57098689
>Fetish shit
>>57098712
>Immediately hijacked by Fagmon and insecure Asshsperms getting triggered by seeing a Friede OP
I'll just wait until page 10, both threads are already starting to evolve into shit
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>>57098737
I get that you want something feminine and emotional like steven universe or twilight. Not saying you can't like that, I respect lgbtq+ rights as much as anyone else in the current year, but some people prefer adventure and mystery over crying and trauma dumping. Especially for pokemon which is supposed to be about pokemon and not spoiled kids.
Me personally I'd prefer stories that do more than say "a place we call area zero exists also here's two spoiled children crying ok have fun".
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>>57098749
Same, the greentext anon has not even posted his next set of questions in both of them. I only use those where he posts them because they keep it largely on track.
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>>57098775
Now you're just baiting. It's unfortunate that you didn't have any actual arguments to begin with and just wanted to talk shit. Would've loved to have an actual discussion. Good day.
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>>57098094
The Pokespe manga straight up ages everyone and nothing controversial happened.
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>>57098812
>Now you're just baiting
I'm literally not. Your answer to "what is area zero" was "it's a naturally formed crater". If you can't see how shallow that is(heh) then there's no helping you.
You should just accept that you love drama steven universe flavored. You consider spoiled kids trauma dumping about their upper-middle class upbringing to be more substance than literal time travel gods or mad tyrants 3k years ago building super weapons that change the very nature of the world or intradimensional travellers trying to bind a god and causing biblical disasters in the fallout
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>>57098821
You can keep whining about your weird headcanons, I'll keep enjoying SV's plot about human desire and the paradoxical mystery of intertwining time continua.
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>>57098850
>I'll keep enjoying SV's plot about humans crying
I know you will. Slay, queen.
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>>57098821
Your argument is retarded when the Sinnoh trio also had basically no lore until PLA
Like we only know what the fuck the spear pillar is because of PLA, before that it had no explanation whatsoever
So saying that SV is shit because they didn't explain enough about AZ is just retarded when you're praising the creation trio in the same breath
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>>57098816
Exactly. That logic of having age everyone else up doesn't even hold up much to begin with. Nothing stops them from just, you know, not showing everyone else and then going back to their younger self.
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Litard
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>>57097775
Lol
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>>57098864
But that's wrong.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sinnoh_myths
We knew more about the creation of the pokeworld from Gen4 than we do about area zero or the paldean kingdoms in Gen9.
SV's storytelling was bad all around and was only made worse by the focus on spoiled rich kids giving sob stories about their slightly imperfect upbringings. But that's exactly the kind of thing you like.
Maybe Cynthia should have cried about her parents not buying her vanilla ice cream one week and that would have made you like it more.
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Is it confirmed to be regular Entei and not Gouging Fire?
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>>57098902
Yes
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>>57098901
I'm not that anon you retard, I don't care about Kieran's crying bitch ass either
None of the things in the article you linked explains the existence of the spear pillar, or mount coronet for that matter
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>>57098921
But it does you fucking retard. It explains directly the creation of everything and the pantheons important to it, and with the parallels in well-known IRL mythologies the community was able to paint the bulk of the picture over a decade in advance of PLA coming out.

But what do we have from SV?
Uhhh.. There's a crater and uhh... terapagos lived in it or something... and there's a special tree that's only there to look pretty... also professors traveling across time or space or something??? Wowwww how substancefull and enticing. Truly no other gen can compare to the deep lore we received in Paldea
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>>57098938
All I'm getting from this is that you don't understand SVs plot desu
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>>57098941
Your misconstruing plot with lore baka. And the plot itself is a shallow timeloop that's padded with 10,000 hours of two spoiled rich kids crying and seething.
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>>57098957
I still don't understand why you think they're rich. Arven used to live in a glorified>>57098957
basement in the lighthouse (and only has a proper place to live now in thanks to student housing) and Kieran is literally a country bumpkin from a rural not-Japanese town that needs money so bad it's trying to become a tourist trap.
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>>57098975
Both Arven and Kieran were financially well off. Arven was neglected, not abused, and his primary motivation for moving was to distance himself from symbols of that neglect and give himself a fresh start symbolically. Kieran's family wasn't struggling and Kitakami wanted not needed money. The unnecessary push for tourism is even a minor plot point.
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>>57098864
>when the Sinnoh trio also had basically no lore until PLA
lmao PLA adds fuck all to the creation trio. it's a shitty isekai



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