>GF finally make the pokémon Z everyone has been waiting for for years and is also finally bringing back mega’s in a game>it’s another empty tech demo with no abilities, trainer battles or online features where you are locked inside of a singular town.talk about a monkey paw.
>>57101492Gamefreak is saving the remakes for the switch 2. Platinum3D will be the launch title
>still thinking it's supposed to be "XYgote baby retard's missing rehash she didn't get 9 years ago"loling at your life spacker.
>we still pretend pla didnt have online
>Pokemon has been making endless pre-alpha tests ever since the DS because of the never-ending rise of technological fidelity>because people are so demanding that Pokemon looks like a HIRE THIS MAN AAA experience ever since it had no choice but to go to consoles, they will never reach a satisfactory plateau>people still fucking buy it anyway
>>57101550i lost some items in 2023 and they're still gone, also trades with codes are tedious and useless as you have the linking cord
>>57101492Why do people keep making posts like this when we have yet to see a single second of in-game footage? Wait until we know exactly what the game is going to be like before you start endlessly dooming over nothing. FFS.Though I'm going to guess OP is one of those "tee-hee catch fifty Bidoof" dumbfucks who evidently have never actually played PLA.
>>57101535>it’s not made for kalosfag because it’s not really xy>it’s not made for switch fags because they actively don’t give a shit about legends game>it’s not made for oldfags because it has too many nugen mons in it>it’s not made for megafags because there’s no online battles or even trainer battles in general>it’s not made for plafags because they hate everything that is not hisuiwho is this game even made for?
>>57101492You need to change up your vocabulary, you're either repeating yourself or copying another retard, it's pretty embarrassing
>>57101634Because an element of the board is fucking fuming over L: A and the fact it got a sequel, utterly shutting down the prospect of any potential Game Freak-made remake again. Meaning no on-Gen engine reimagining of their childhood ever again, but more childhood-smashing extra additions to regions of yore.
>>57101634Tbf, most people have never actually played PLA, including those that defend it.
>>57101651Pokémon fans, figures you wouldn't understand that.
>>57101668but no pokemon fan actually like legends games tho. In fact the people that like pla are more ofter than not genwaring dickhead who actively hate pokemon as a franchise.
>>57101688nice fanfic
>>57101688Holy cordie seethe, kek. Like I said, you wouldn't understand it, which is why you're mad over its existence. The fact you have to type out those lies for yourself all but prove that.
>>57101663I don't know why you write this like anything in PLA is impressive lol. It's a very ugly and empty game with not much going on other than beta testing its shitty combat and ridemons. People thought they were getting at least a remake with some content and towns, not a dogshit tech demo that belongs on the Wii
I don’t know how anyone likes legends. Shiny hunting and catching Pokémon is only so fun before you realize how boring the game is
>>57101710in other words you’re a salty zoomzoom mad that sinnoh didn’t get nugenified the same way hoenn did in orass
>>57101492>no abilities or trainer battlesgoodpokémon should be about catching and raising pokémon. The battles in the games have always either been mash A to win or simply boring regardless of difficulty. It's why the pokémon spin offs like Snap are so much better than the shitty main series games.
>>57101724he’s right >dexcut>move cut>ability cut>subpar visuals and performance>cut more features than any other game (battle frontier became a tranny genie hunt)>black people shoehorned into 1800s japan lolshitsui is nugen epitomized
>proving my wordsYes kid, I know. You're incandescent over Game Freak not making a remake, but contracting literal whos to port the old code complete to Unity to shit out before their effort, which expanded on lore the originals had hinted at, while adding more of what they had originally written for Gen 4 but hadn't implemented (including confirming Arceus as creator deity of the Pokémon universe, that took on the form of Arceus the pokémon to interact with the physical world). But I'm not you and the lore of Gen 4 was the most interesting of any the games to then date and since with the exception of Paldea and the history of its Crater. And given the premise of L: Z-A and the lack of need to shill a non-current starter, I'll probably enjoy this new one better than I enjoyed XY where they made you feel like you were missing out by not picking the gay frog.
Yeah anon, I agree PLA was an empty wilderness simulator padded out with a dogshit story and fetch quest that touches on very little lore that we didn't already know. Cool.
>>57101744It also makes sense in context, there's no overarching organised League in ANY region with Laventon stating some people in his homeland have only started battling pokémon against one another in scratch comps. Abilities are chiefly battle modifiers but in an era where pokémon lived wild with little human interaction, they had no need to try and find a competitive advantage (fainting an opponent meant a lost lunch). As humans started organising comps and battles and gyms formed etc, pokémon started evolving abilities to aid in battle, aid in exploration or aid in seeking out other pokémon.If you look at it from the view of it being set in the near-past, as a reflection of our own world, then it makes sense the trappings of modern pokémon competitions in games set in the modern era wouldn't appear, due to them outright stated to not being as widespread, pervasive or important in the era due to being in its infancy as a concept.
>>57101688Evidence accepted, No defense given.
>>57101666I get that impression too. I never see any discussion of its shitty gameplay, story, or ugly ass maps. Occasionally you'll get a Arezu coomer thread, that's it. Even streams only do shiny hunt shit because actually replaying the game is awful.
>>57101744>>57101788>it's ok if it suck beacause its supposed to suck (in the loore)
>>57101777This but Gen 5.
>>57101492>patternfag
>>57101807hi yawnie
>57101799>we're getting 18 gyms guise because americans can't understand promotion/relegation in sports leaguesYep, the lore influences the games. that's why, much like the EPL and J League (kids in both Japan and England would be intimately familiar with) Shield saw Gordie relegated and Melony promoted in his place and the two "rivals" of the DLC being minor league gym leaders looking for an edge to become Premier League stars. Sorry you can't understand that, maybe you should stick to taco games for taco people, no chance of getting confused with the kiddy games then.
Damn, and I thought I had adhd. Catching Pokemon in PLA was the most fun it's ever been BY FAR, never been immersed in dex completion like that before. You trolls need new bait.
>>57101651>>57101688pla sure sold a lot for a game that supposedly no switch fags give a shit about and all pokemon fans hate
>>57101914These trolls stopped playing pokémon years ago and are now essentially the 200X's genwunner scum, idolising their childhood and attempting to smother any and all praise for then newer offerings.
>>57101492Except it's not Z and never was.
>>57101914Legends is awful. Boring, ugly, repetitive, removed way too much for a shitty real time chucking mechanic. Which would be fine on its own but it's got literally nothing else. The game is basically an indie beta test being sold as a full price AAA game. It's insultingly empty, the pokemon selection is shitty (sinnoh so go figure) there's absolutely nothing that makes a player want to explore because it's the shittest set of maps I've ever seen in videogames and once you've played 5 hours you've basically played the whole game.I went ahead and caught them all and Arceus. What an enormous waste of time.I'm certain the game is good if you're autistic or have asperger's and get easily attached to repetitive, mundane tasks but most human beings require actual substance.
>>57102078>it’s only ok when unova does all of this.
>>57102590Come up with some better trolling, tranny
>>57102590
>>57102078truke. Shitsui and its half-breed BDSP rapebaby are the most disgusting shit pokemon has ever pulled.
>>57101688True but only because it makes you upset
>>57102078 I'll give you a few things: the graphics could definitely be improved, but I'm willing to stomach it as the first most-open world game they made, the emptyness could've been solved by a few more ruins or settlements too, but there were still interesting things in each map imo. I didn't like the lack of battles and axing of abilities and some moves, but we also got some new moves at least, and I liked the different styles, increasing strength AND accuracy with strong style and the effects were sick. The different Pokemon behaviours while catching kept things fresh, berries to turn mons around for backshots (lol), mudball stunning, sneaking around using artificial cover with smoke bombs... and trying not to die by getting mauled (especially in distortions). Encountering Alpha Pokemon was exciting, they could be a decent challenge if you weren't prepared. First time we got different overworld mount mons. Finding shinies wasn't so impossible for some people anymore with the overworld spawning and jingles. Idk, I liked it.
>>57101492>no abilities, trainer battles or online featuressource,
>>57101817hi ywnbawie.
>>57102601>look! my game railroaded a bunch of content for no reason!weird flex but ok
>>57101492>the madlads make a literal Pokémon GTA>dipshits complain it doesn't play like a game from 1996
>>57103025this>it's a good thing we removed the battle frontier for a tranny version of landorus, chud! dont ask questions about this pozzed slop, you can heckin craft shit and roll around like its a mobile game! so neeeew
>>57103027>make a literal Pokémon GTAcept it looks and plays worse than GTA3
>>57102601>post game content that isn't $30 DLC is a bad thing nowTo weep for this board is a waste of time, for it's fate is sealed.
>>57103027And then the same fuckheads will have the utmost audacity to complain about Kanto dicksucking.
>>57102856>Finding shinies wasn't so impossible for some people anymore with the overworld spawning and jingles.And Game Freak backtracked on that in SV.
>>57103227Which is the most based thing they’ve ever done. you should earn your shinies rather then them basically being given for free like in pla.
Another 55+ banger from Sabor, very niceReport to the cord for promotions
>>57103259hi yawnie.
>>57103227Yeah kinda lame, but the games were supposedly made at the sane time which explains inconsistencies. PLZA and gen 10 is when we'll see if they decided to actually keep the good shit... but knowing Gamefreak...>>57103240I think they might've just done it because of how many mons were spawning in walls, and how easy it was to refresh encounters by accident, just a tgeory though. Honesrly the real issue is how many shiny Pokemon have no perceptible differences rmto their regular form, particularly when accounting for lighting differences. Anyways, SV is the most braindead shiny hunting game yet, sandwichs and hordes are broken.
>>57103298Damn those typos.. theory* Honestly* into*
>>57103298plonk
>>57103025>pretending postgame and main game content aren't fundamentally designed differently>>57103064>seething strawmanfag
>>57104791>fishing rod and diving is available well before the credits in every other game>fishing rod and diving is locked to postgame in BW and they function exactly the same as before>”i-it’s fundamentally designed differently!!”
>>57103027Some people can't enjoy things. Or worse, they do but they still bitch about it and try to ruin things for other people.
>>57103224This. It's fucking hilarious.
>>57105324>he say that when the game is gonna feature mega charizard Z
>>57105324>kanto invented rpgs
>>57105350>kanto invented pigeons>kanto invented fire breathing dragons
>>57105350>>57105360>kanto invented not being a 3d shovelware
>>57104937>nitpicking this hard>>57105324"having things to do and places to go" wasn't made by Kanto, ad neither were those. They're pokemon concepts about the whole world overall. Kalos was criticized for being made as SPECIFICALLy Kanto wank. Do you really think they'll nail urban exploration on their first try? I highly doubt it.>>57105360but it did invent those mons and those mons are Kanto mons, so it's odd Kalos seems to want to focus so hard on Kanto mons disproportionally. That's definitional pandering to Kanto anon.>>57105363>3d shovelwareBut enough about XY.
>>57106755>d-doesnt count
>>57106765Yes. Not everything counts the same. That's how conversations work. Not everything is the same about everything all the time.
>>57106755>but it did invent those monsJust like it invented 8 badges, elite 4, victory road, etc
>>57106822But the idea of badges are spread throughout the Pokemon world and never marketed as Kanto concepts. Kanto Pokemon are Kanto Pokemon and marketed as such. When you see the number 151 you instantly know what it is.
>>57106828>But the idea of badges are spread throughout the Pokemon world and never marketed as Kanto conceptsJust like Charizard, Pidgey, etc
>>57106822Just like it invented the concept of Pokemon, Pokeballs, trainers, battles, items, etc. You're not gonna argue all those are pandering, are you? If you're not disingenuous, you'd realize that that's just the Pokemon world's equivalent of institutions and are all over the world. But whenever they shove Kanto down your face it feels incredibly unnatural. Like "why are mons first discovered in this specific region getting the most attention?" From IRL's perspective, it's obvious they want you to feel nostalgic for the Kanto games. But those other things are just how the pokemon world functions. No one battles gym leaders and suddenly feels any nostalgia for Kanto specifically.
>>57106834No, those are Kanto pokemon and are positioned as such.
>>57106839>You're not gonna argue all those are pandering, are youBy your standard of what pandering is, I can argue those are pandering, yes
>>57106834>literal KANTO pokemon>he's pretending they aren't evocative of KantoFuck off. This pedantic journey that you're about to embark on will accomplish nothing.
>>57106843Just like 8 badges, elite 4, victory road, etc are Kanto concepts and are positioned as such.
>>57106847And what exactly is my standard? As I already explained, no one encounters those things and thinks "OMG KANTO THING" like they do with literal Kanto mons. No game has Kanto's badges, E4's, and victory road. They're all conceptually different.
>>57106848>literal KANTO pokemonJust like 8 badges, elite 4, victory road, etc are literal KANTO concepts
>>57106853No they're not. Do you have any proof of that or are you just parroting for the hell of it? You already are just regurgitating posts without even reading what they say or care to check if it still applies sin reverse, because it blatantly doesn't. Those were never shown as Kanto-ish in nature like the literal Kanto mons.
>>57106854>As I already explained, no one encounters those things and thinks "OMG KANTO THING"Just like Charizard, Pidgey, etc>No game has Kanto's badges, E4's, and victory roadWhat, you haven’t played GSC, sagefag?
>>57106856No they aren't. Every other victory road looks nothing like Kanto's. Same with gym leaders, gyms, and e4's (with exception to the one case in Johto)Those concepts exist in all regions in completely different contexts.
>>57106860>No they're notYes they are.>Do you have any proofDo you?
>>57106863>Just like Charizard, Pidgeythose are Kanto pokemon. People think of Kanto when they see them, unlike the other things you mentioned.>the game that actually has Kanto has Kantoretard>sagefagWho? Take your meds.
>>57106871>Yes they are.No they're not.>no uConcession acceptedKanto Pokemon are Kanto Pokemon.
>>57106864>Those concepts exist in all regions in completely different contextsJust like Charizard, Pidgey, etc
>>57106876Proof? Other regions have new birds and starters, yes. But the species is still the same species that debuted in Kanto and is indentifiably tied to Kanto.
>>57106872>those are Kanto pokemonJust like 8 badges, victory road, e4, etc are Kanto concepts>w-wait no that makes me look like a retard so it doesn’t countkek> Who?Don’t pretend you didn’t wait until this thread hit page 10 to respond because you’re afraid of being BTFO like what’s currently happening now.
>>57106875>No they're not.Yes they are.>no proofConcession accepted. Victory road, e4, 8 badges, etc are Kanto concepts.
>>57106884>Other regions have new birds and starters, yesAnd Charizard and Pidgey, yes.
>>57106890>Just like [THINGS THAT ARE NOT KANTO CONCEPTS] are Kanto conceptsYou seem to be conflating debuting in Kanto to being Kanto concepts. No one said that.>doesn't countIt's a game with the actual region of askant in it you smooth brain retard. It's the literal same location, not some copy paste of it like Kalos did (blatant pandering that you're still pretending doesn't exist)>schizobabble>BTFOSorry I'm not the retard two doesn't know what Kanto Pokemon are and thinks every region has the same victory road, e4, gyms etc. as well as considering pokeballs trainers and items ads Kanto concepts.
>>57106898>Yes they are.No they're not>[non Kanto concepts] are Kanto conceptsYou seem to be conflating debuting in Kanto to being Kanto concepts. No one said that.>>57106905Appearing is fine. Putting cuck-like spotlight on mons that debuted in a specific game is pandering. And I happen to like many Kanot mons, but when they're treated din such a way it's pretty repulsive to the mon and to the game.
>>57106908>You seem to be conflating debuting in Kanto to being Kanto conceptsThat’s what you’re doing with Charizard, Pidgey, etc> It's a game with the actual region of askant in it It also has its own region. If victory road and e4 aren’t kanto concepts, why doesn’t johto have its own victory road and e4?>Sorry I'm not the retard two doesn't know what Kanto Pokemon are Why are you projecting?
>>57106914>Putting cuck-like spotlight on mons that debuted in a specific game is panderingSo 8 badges, victory road, e4, etc is pandering since the other games put cuck-like spotlight on them instead of making their own stories. Good to know.
>>57106922>That’s what you’re doingNo, not only did those mons debut in Kanto but having do so, with the rosters specifically, they are tied to Kanto's identity. This applies to stop the mons only, as well as trainers. Cynthia is a Sinnoh trainer even if she appears elsewhere, for example. This does't apply to all the other things you listed.>johtoThey share one. I wouldn't die on this hill anon. Them sharing one means there is no "Kanto" one or "Johto" one.>no uthis is a concession
>>57106925No because those aren't tied to the identity of Kanto. Kanto's mons are.Exhibit A on how blind copy pasta doesn't actually work.
>>57106929>No, not only did those mons debut in Kanto but having do so, with the rosters specifically, they are tied to Kanto's identityjust like 8 badges, victory road, elite 4, etc>I can’t have consistent standardsthis is a concession
>>57106965>just like [things that aren't tied to Kanto identity like it's mons areTry again>consistent standards means lumping things that are different n explained ways and pretending they're the sameTry againAlso, the only concession is parroting, which you're doing.
>>57106934>No because those aren't tied to the identity of KantoJust like Charizard, Pidgey, etc
>>57106965>consistent standardsHe already said Johto's the exception you pedantic schizoid. But the devs justified it for obvious reasons since they're geographically close and both regions are in one game and connected. It isn't forced like, say, Kalos and its pandering.
>>57106970>things that aren't tied to Kanto identityjust like Charizard, Pidgey, etc>consistent standards means making up arbitrary excuses to defend pandering because the pandering exists in games I liketry again
>>57106979>Kanto's mons aren't tied to Kanto's identityThey're KANTO mons, but nice try. Those other things you mentioned literally only debuted in Kanto, but aren't tied to its identity the same way. Stop speaking recursively without addressing this.
>>57106984>He already said Johto's the exception Why is there an exception? Because it makes you look retarded and destroys your whole argument?
>>57106993>They're KANTO mons,Just like 8 badges, victory road, e4, etc are KANTO concepts
>>57106990>just like [KANTO mons]Nope, try again anon.>arbitrary excusesIt's not arbitrary. Pandering definitionally needs to be forced. Johto being a neighbor and sharing the league justifies it. If it was a faraway region that does not connect yet inexplicably has the Kanto location copy pasted, that would be pandering.
>>57106998If you read the rest of the post you just responded to, you'd know. Here let me repeat it since you're developing Parkinson's:The devs justified it for obvious reasons since they're geographically close and both regions are in one game and connected. It isn't forced like, say, Kalos and its pandering.>>57107007No they're not. You're conciliating being introduced in Kanto as being Kanto concepts. That is not what I said.
Kanto was a mistake/thread
>>57107010>KANTO monsJust like 8 badges, victory road, e4, etc are KANTO concepts>Pandering definitionally needs to be forcedCopying 8 badges, victory road, e4, etc in every game is forced, true
>>57107028>Just like [non Kanto concepts]Nope. These are different from the Kanto mons.>CopyingNot copied, making new ones almost every time.
>>57107017>It isn't forced like, say, Kalos and its panderingCopying 8 badges, victory road, e4, etc in every game is forced, true>You're conciliating being introduced in Kanto as being Kanto conceptsThat’s what you’re doing with Charizard, Pidgey, etc
>>57107037>CopyingNot copied, making new ones almost every time. Please try again>that's what you're doingShow me where I used them being introduced there as the justification. I never said that.
Asked the AI so you gremlins can fuck off:Here are some elements in a Pokémon game that could be considered "Kanto pandering":* **Overemphasis on Gen 1 Pokémon:** While it's understandable to reference the original games, excessive focus on Kanto Pokémon, especially at the expense of newer generations, can feel like pandering.* **Repetitive Kanto Locations:** Reusing Kanto locations, even with slight variations, can diminish the sense of exploration and discovery in new regions.* **Forced Kanto-Related Plot Points:** If the story relies heavily on Kanto characters or events, even when it feels out of place, it can come across as pandering.* **Excessive Kanto-Themed Events:** Events that solely focus on Kanto nostalgia, without offering meaningful content or rewards, can be seen as pandering.It's important to note that a little nostalgia can be fun, but excessive Kanto focus can detract from the experience of newer regions and Pokémon.Yawnie-boy loses today, but it's okay, you'll meet again I'm very sure.
>>57107035>non Kanto conceptsJust like Charizard, Pidgey, etc>Not copiedYes copied. Otherwise there wouldn’t be 8 gym leaders and a victory road and an elite 4.
>>57107055Having some references to the game that started it all is indeed nice, just like it's cool to see the new yugi and kaiba cards, but what GF really seems to hate is giving enough uniqueness to new gens
>>57107055>Overemphasis on Gen 1 Like copying 8 badges, victory road, elite 4, etc from Gen 1>Repetitive Kanto LocationsLike repeating Victory Road from Kanto>Forced Kanto-Related Plot PointsLike copying the 8 gym badge plot point from Kanto, the evil team plot point from Kanto, the victory road plot point from Kanto, the Elite 4 with a secret champion plot point from Kanto, and the rival plot point from Kanto> Excessive Kanto-Themed EventsJust like choosing your grass/fire/water starter from professor tree like Kanto where your rival picks the starter with an advantage to yours like Kanto and receiving a gym badge from the gym leader like Kanto and entering the hall of fame after defeating the secret champion after the elite 4 after victory road like Kanto
>>57107062Anon I addressed those already. The mons are Kanto identifiable, but the other examples you gave are not. When people say "Pidgey", the first region to come to mind is Kanto. When people say "Victory Road", they might imagine various ones from person to person (probably whichever they did most recently or played first as a kid).Overall a very stupid equivalency, 0/10.
>>57107035>>57107047stop feeding the troll
>>57107071>but what GF really seems to hate is giving enough uniqueness to new gensyeah, collecting 8 badges to enter victory road to fight the elite 4 every gen felt really unique. Fuck those new gens for introducing repetitive non unique things like totem pokemon and noble pokemon
>>57107094>The mons are Kanto identifiableJust like 8 badges, victory road, elite 4, etc
>>57107047>Not copiedYes copied. Otherwise there wouldn’t be 8 gym leaders and a victory road and an elite 4>Show me where I used themRead the thread
>>57107081>>Overemphasis on Gen 1Pokemon, yes. Those examples you cited were never made into copy pasted locations in other regions like what the AI is saying.>repeating victory roadNope, every victory road is different. Is every "Main Street" in the world a knockoff of the original?>copying plot pointsAll those are different, so no.>having a rival is a Kanto plot pointEveryone can see you're malding anon. Rest.>just like [things that play out differently and are just what happens in the Pokemon world without any tie to Kanto whatsoever]Comparing this to Santalune Forest and Poke Flute Snorlax Bridge should be bankable. I'm talking about specifics, not "they both have pokemon" -tier bullshit that you're currently spewing.
I know it's just the guy that makes ragebait about PLA, but the implication that people really truly care about a Pokemon Z is hilarious. XY and Kalos fucking sucks outside of PSS
>>57107106>Just like [things that don't identify a specific region when mentioned]Try again schizo.>Yes copiedNot copied, making new ones almost every time. You're just complaining about the name at this point.>read the threadJust did, you're blind for thinking I said that when I didn't. Now show me where I aid that's the case.
>>57107126>>57107139stop feeding the troll
>>57107126>Pokemon, yesAnd 8 badges, victory road, etc>Nope, every victory road is differentNot enough to not make it a repetitive kanto location>All those are differentNope>Everyone can see you're malding anonNot an argument>things that play out differentlyThey don’t play out differently.
>>57107094>When people say "Pidgey", the first region to come to mind is Kanto. When people say "Victory Road", they might imagine various ones from person to person (probably whichever they did most recently or played first as a kid).This particular statement will never be addressed. The more yawnfag reads it, the more he'll harm himself.
>>57107138Nice try.
>>57107139> things that don't identify a specific region when mentionedJust like Charizard, Pidgey, etc>Not copiedYes copied. Otherwise there wouldn’t be 8 gym leaders and a victory road and an elite 4>you're blind for thinking I said that when I didn'tYou’re blind for thinking you didn’t say that when you did.
>>57107144>And [things the AI didn't say]retard>Not enoughYes enough. Only the names are the same you fucking retard.>NopeYep. Show me a reused plot point that's actually specific like I did.>not an argumentNeither is pretending the concept of a "rival" is evocative of Kanto kek>They don't play out differentlyYes they do you idiot. You're convincing me you're trolling or have never played at this point.
>>57107146>this [conjecture with zero evidence to back it up] will never be addressedno one cares
>>57107149>Just like [things people think about Kanto from just hearing the name]Try agian>Yes copiedNope. Show me any that copied any more than the name.>YOU SAID IT LMAOShow me.>>57107147Kek this doesn't even show enthusiasm for Kalos whatsoever.
>>57107155you cared enough to reply
>>57107155>the only actual relevant element of the discussion will never be addressedThanks for admitting you're a retard who can't argue. It's not conjecture just because you say it is.Now here's what I would post if I was a slime shitposter like you:>"it's conjecture because it shits on my narrative!"But I'm not like you. I at least want you to prove your fucking claims.So let's continue down this actually relevant point. If someone says "do you like the elite 4" your obvious question would be "which one?"That's not conjecture, that's common sense. Just like pokeballs and trainers etc.But with Pokemon, mentioning a species makes you think of the region.Now explain EXACTLY how you disagree with this incredibly simple premise or you lost and I can't help you.
>>57107152> things the AI didn't sayIt did>Yes enoughNot enough.>o-only the names are the sameThey’re all caves after the 8th badge and before the elite 4.>YepNope. 8 badges, team evil, elite 4, rival, etc are all reused plot points>Neither is pretending the concept of a "rival" is evocative of KantoJust like Charizard, Pidgey, etc>Yes they doNope
>>57107182>the only actual relevant element of the discussionThere’s no relevance because there’s no substance. It’s just a statement you made that you’re insisting is true with zero evidence because you need it to fit your narrative.>your obvious question would be "which one?"Nope. I would just assume they’re talking about the E4 as a concept.
>>57107190>It didYou quoted a specific line and it didn't say that anon.>Not enoughHow? The layout is completely different. Only the names shared.>They're all caves Caves are Kanto concepts now?>after the 8th badgeNo other place makes sense. Caves exist throughout the region anyway.>before the elite 4No other place makes sense. Caves exist throughout the region anyway.>NopeYep. Being called the same thing isn't an entire plot point.>Just like [Kanto specific thing]Nice try.>NopeThey play out differently anon. How me one example of it playing out the exact same way.
>>57107199>there’s no substanceIt's the most substance filled post in the thread and you're avoiding it because you know it destroys what you're shilling. He's getting at the connection to the region and how strong it is, which is very important.>zero evidenceEach part was walked through with logic. You being unable to refute steps and just say "it's all false" without elaborating whatsoever shows you lost.>I would assume [retard assumption]"4" is in the name anon. I didn't say "elite 4's". You'd ask which one if you had a brain. Similarly, you'd ask if you like Victory Road, and I'd say "it depends which one". Similarly, the term doesn't make me think of Kanto. It would make me think of all of them probably.
>>57107055Thanks AI. Three bullets are now locked and loaded.
Next response is a gay yawnie
I wish i could fuck Kalos
>>57107224> It's the most substance filled post in the threadIt’s literally just “thing is true because I said so” lmaoPutting a lot of words in your post != substance>Each part was walked through with logicNo, because there’s no evidence to support it. Putting a lot of words in your post != logic>"4" is in the name anonIt’s in the name of the concept, yes.
>>57107260>thing is true because I said soNo, it's logical and one step at a time, which is why you still couldn't refute it specifically>putting a lot of wordsI explained why it's substance beyond that you blind retard and that he's touching upon the crux of the argument.>no evidenceThe sentences themselves are logical evidence and are comprehensive. You being unable to specifically say what's wrong about the logic means you know you lost.>name of the conceptYeah but when used in a sentence in singular, it's referring to just one e4, not all. Sorry you are an ESL apparently. Just like if someone said "do you like the pokemon champion" you'd have to ask which one. Assuming they're referring to all champions would be idiotic.
>>57107344>No, it's logicalPutting a lot of words in your post != logic>I explained why it's substanceno you didn’t>The sentences themselves are logical evidencePutting a lot of words in your post != logic>Yeah but when used in a sentence in singular, it's referring to just one e4It’s referring to the concept of the E4.
>>57107224>>57107344stop feeding the troll
>>57107143>>57107411Why are you spamming that?
>>57107164>Kek this doesn't even show enthusiasm for Kalos whatsoever.There's obtuse. Then there's people like you.
>>57107396>putting words in other people mouth’s after they already gave alternative explanations>denial when text is right there>putting words in other people mouth’s after they already gave alternative explanations>conflating singular words like a retardAll addressed. Try reading again.Still waiting for you to refute the logic and show exactly how it’s wrong instead of just spamming “it’s wrong”. Also, do you like the Pokemon champion?>>57107445So….not obtuse? He’s right, no one in that image is enthusiastic about Kalos you know. Just a bunch of Kalosfags pretending Unovafags wanted remakes when they didn’t.>>57107454You mean when someone is feeding a troll like you. Probably that one.Conversely, using boogeyman terms like “sagefag” and mentioning Unova out of LITERALLY no where like a schizophrenic are more akin to “visibly losing” than anything else here.
>>57107605>boogeymanthis thread is currently on page 4 bro
>>57107613>this is a valid excuse to not argue properly according to the retard
>>57107624You don’t actually care about “arguing properly”, otherwise you wouldn’t sneakily try to get the last word in just as the thread is about to die.
>>57107613That doesn’t justify boogeymanfagging and pretending everyone against you’s the same guy. Man up anon.
>>57107625>you don’t care!I care enough to respond to what you say with parallel and valid responses. You deflect, boogeymanfag, insult, and parrot disingenuously. If your arguments had any weight then you wouldn’t care being the last one to say something g because you’d know your words would be right regardless of order. Only retards care so much to shitfling like you until they’re posting last and consider that “winning”.
>>57107626>boogeyman>pretending this thread was on page 4 bro>>57107633>I care enoughNo, I don’t think you do.
>>57107640>page 4Again, not a reason to believe there’s a “sagefag” out there that’s one guy that exclusively sages and happens to be the same one guy that’s always against you>I don’t think you doEvidently I do. This is exactly what I meant. You don’t even read and respond to the meat of my post. You just take the initial conclusion and say “not true” to it. You just proved my point anon.
>>57101492>where you are locked inside of a singular town.Okay, let's expand on this.It's a pokemon game. Every single pokemon game that exists with multiple town is like one road with a shop on the side.Why is it a negative that there is only a singular 'base of operations' style town? Why is it a positive to have multiple towns of no additional value?
>>57107676I think it stems from distrust of Gamefreak to actually execute everything necessary to make it a good experience. Different town have different looks and feels, so there’s also that.Also the scope of hard to see them nail their first go at a Batman styled city game. It took them two whole gens of open world experimentation and SV still has some major problems on that front.
>>57107676>Why is it a negative that there is only a singular 'base of operations' style town? Because, despite what people in this fanbase claim, they actually like it when GF lazily copies Kanto.
>>57107719>actually-No. Someone saging is not proof that only one person sages ever, and somehow happens to be the only person to oppose you.>evidently-I do because you just proved I do. You don’t read what u say and just say “that’s not true” with no logic whatsoever behind it. Go ahead and prove it again.
>>57107725And what does “not having your game be one city” have anything to do with Kanto?
>>57107725That's not a negative though, that's just a personal preference.
>>57107732>>57107736>exactly 1 minute apart>still tries to insist he’s not a single guy shitposting the whole threadkek
>>57107737>yesNo, that’s not proof of that at all. You’re delusional for thinking that remotely.>he cares who responds lastThanks for proving you never BTFO anyone and thinking posting last somehow means you won.
>>57107743>THESE TWO POSTS ARE THE SAME PERSONyes.>SO BOOGEYMANnope. Not everyone ever disagrees with you is the same person.
>>57107765>one wordThanks for proving my point. Not everyone who disagrees with you is the same person.>you care I don’t give a shit about posting last. I care about being right. So should you. And if someone undercuts you you shouldn’t care if you’re actually right.
>>57107781>assumes I’m the Sager1) you just proved you think everyone who disagrees with you’s the same dude2) the only reason you care about the Sager is if you know your would-be “last word” doesn’t stand the test of a response
>>57107793>assumesNah
>>57107826If it’s not an assumption, then explain your basis and let’s hash out the arguments. You tend to assert yes or no with nothing supporting.
>>57101492Source?
>>57107829>then explain your basis Already did.>You tend to assert yes or no with nothing supportingKEK your level of projection is hilarious.
>>57107880>already didShow me where you did and I didn’t address it.>no uShow me where I did that. My responses address each claim you make. Your responses pick one piece of my posts devoid of context and just say “no” or “yes” to them without support, which you proved repeatedly.
>>57101492Was there any other game that took this long between announcement and release (and still counting)? It’s either cancelled or massively reworked and reshuffled.
>>57108190>It’s either cancelled or massively reworked and reshuffled.What the fuck are you talking about? They literally announced it a week after saying they're gonna take longer on future entries. Why wouldn't it take longer for it to come out?
>>57108190>took this long between announcement and release>It’s either cancelled or massively reworked and reshuffled.This long? Either cancelled or reworked? It was announced 9 months ago with a 2025 release date from the start, are you sure you're not confusing it with something else?
>>57107605>All addressednope
>>57108787>nope,Yep, further proven by each time you give absolute non responses like this one.
>>57108845There’s no response to give because all of your posts are “thing is true because I said so”
>>57108851No, they’re logically argued. You don’t get to avoid having to explain how something is supposedly wrong just because you are disagreeing. That’s the whole point of arguments.
>>57108862>it’s logically argued because I said so!See?
>>57108867>it’s wearing but I’ll never remotely being to explain how it’s wrong or what part is wrongIf it’s so illogical show me what part falls apart and we can argue about it. You’re just sidestepping because you know it’s logical/methodical.
>>57101492Serious question: Should I buy a used switch lite just to play PLZA? I never own nintendo consoles, all my experiences with this franchise has been through emulation and rom hacks. I've never played gen 8, 9 and PLA either.
>>57109817>t.
>>57109984If you’re set on buying a console just wait it out for the switch successor, whatever it’s called. It’s typically a bad idea to buy the console at the end of its life cycle, and it’s particularly late right now. Couple that with the almost certainty (but based on leaks, mind you) that the successor will be able to play the switch games also.
>>57109994>my argument was badbut enough about sagie’s posts
>>57101492>Megas are confirmedDoes this mean they would bring back held items?
>>57109999>it’s bad because I just said it’s bad somehow!
>>57109997Yeah, I think Nintendo already confirmed Switch's successor will be able to play Switch games. I've been reading the rumored leaks, NextHandHeld says it'll be released in March but I don't know how credible they are. I guess I'll have to wait until after Christmas to see if his leaks are credible or not. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
>>57110002>He didn't play LGPEStop giving GF extra credit.
>>57109984I mentally never considered the lite a good deal to begin with. You can find the regular switch on sale most of the time. But yes, what the other anon said, just wait for the next console bro.
>>57109984I'd stick to how you currently are.
>>57110125>but enough about [posts that aren’t insistent but rather justified]nice projection
>>57110569>I don’t care about getting the last word in btw
>>57110613Thanks for confirming you do care. Clearly you think your arguments can’t hold up someone speaking after them.
>>57110652>projecting>againkek
>>57110658>gets accused of projection>accuses them back of projectionRetard
Next one of you to post again is the one who cares about last words. Stop fucking spamming.
>>57110698Yes, by redirecting a thread that would have been dead ages ago. But instead you opted to flamewar. You just proved you care only about having the last word in. People saging is just your excuse to have long crusades against saging.
>>57110706>Yes, by redirecting a thread that would have been dead ages agoBut isn’t because you decided to respond HOURS after anyone else posted when the thread was on page 10.
>>57110719>still pretending it’s one guyIt’s no one’s fault but yours that this thread’s still up.
>>57110721Except I don’t care that the thread is still up. You care that the thread is still up because you keep attempting to let it die but your ego can’t stand not getting the last word in to delude yourself that you won.
>>57110738>I don’t care that it’s still upThis is an admission that you’re fine with stupid flame wars like this, which you did cause. But I know you’re lying since of this is true you who’ve let the thread die.I’m thinking about this from your perspective. If you didn’t care, you would have let it die. There’s no reason to save it except for knowing your argument suck or wanting last words.
>>57110753I don’t care if the thread dies because I know my arguments are correct. You care that the thread dies because you’re afraid of your awful arguments getting responded to and BTFO.
>>57101492Not even a single frame of gameplay has been shown to us, retard.
>>57110763> I don’t care if the thread dies because I know my arguments are correctOf this were true you would have let it die, but you didn’t. You’re blatantly lying by saying this now.
>>57110827>if you don’t care about it dying you would have let it dieYou aight, sagie?
>>57111383? That greentext is a true statement. If you don’t care about last words you wouldn’t spack out about last words. If you don’t care about the thread dying you wouldn’t spack have let it die. You did both of these things and proved you’re a liar.
>>57111456you would have let it die*
>>57111456I don’t care about last words. I do have fun embarrassing you and destroying your pathetic attempts at pretending you have an argument by trying to sneak in replies at the last second though.
>>57111473But you didn’t do any of those. All you proved is that you’re a baby who went “SOMEONE ELSE CAN’T HAVE LAST WORDS BECAUSE I WANT THEM!!!”
>>57101492>Legends format>No more long drawn out battles with consistent message pop ups>can catch more mons in a minute than you can in a half hour with a mainline entry>alpha mons being entertaining mini boss fights>shiny hunting is actually funLegends sharts on mainline. Main problems with PLA are problems that are consistent with the mainline series.
>>57111482>projecting>again
