GET OUT HERE YOU LITTLE SHIT EditionFriend ID Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScx82fFuZO5JSneihERecx5UKEJv42EGQKYZM3flPh_ERIa-A/viewform>Friend ID Sheet:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGhOfaMX6D_YUR-P39_OJdVmAl0uacohIRstE9oN9SQ/edit>Tournament results/decklists:https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET>Deck Builder:https://my.limitlesstcg.com/builder>Upcoming events/datamines/schedule:https://pocket.codex.gg/news/schedule//vp/ battle passwords to battle with other anons (might want to say in thread which one you wanna battle under so others can join you)>/vp/‘s own meta (no random effects, no ex):vpnx>meta decks or high level play:vpmeta>/vp/ anything:vpPrevious:
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Why is it so hard to pack a Golem
Take a look at this. What do you think of it?
>>57125446It alright but I feel like if I'm playing Pidgeot I need to include the regular version as well for its ability and FA
When is the win streak event
>>57125435>AISlopper can’t even get the OP right
>>57125446I HATE CG ART CARDSI HATE CG ART CARDSI HATE CG ART CARDSI HATE CG ART CARDS
ive been using the metal chad's deck and its so fucking fun btfo these braindead low iq metaslaves
GIVE ME MY FUCKING AERODACTYL WHAT THE FUCK!
How come Golem works but not Melmetal?
>gary btfo'd the anons so hard they stopped making threads
>>57125479me first ive failed 8 WPs already
>>57125476as if that deck requires more brainpower than the meta one lmao
>>57125446I prefer the old Pidgey and Pidgeotto3 energy is tricky sometimes on Pidgeotto
>>57125446>jumping from one to three costOuch.
>>57125490seething metapig lol
>>57125446Three energy for 50 attack is truly something else.
but enough about pokemonwhich pocketgirl is currently the best waifu and card
>>57125517>which pocketgirl is currently the best waifu and cardJirachi
>>57125517The expeditioner who is currently budding
>>57125481Golem has better energy support, higher hp and also has damage reduction.
>>57125496just being honest mate
>>57125517There's only one true answer.
>>57125527That's a boy
>>57125568out of 10!
>>57125568not believing this until another card of a confirmed girl that young comes out and has hearts as cosmetic
>>57125492New Pidgey hits for more damage on the same stats, no reason to use the old one.
>>57125588Old Pidgey had 10 more HP, could survive an attack from a Gio boosted lightning basic like Voltorb or Zapdos ex
>>57125440Wish I could relate
Why did they make an ostensibly useful card like Tauros and then fuck it over so much?>3 energy to attack, but the base damage is pathetic, meaning it's only useful against ex's>only 100HP which means it gets OHKOed by basically any ex and also many evolutions >2 retreat cost because fuck you>also can't one shot any ex besides Pikachu without Giovanni and even that only kills two othersMeanwhile you get killed and have no energy on anything else to finish the job. Game needs generic energy acceleration of some kind already, fuck.
>>57125608I wish the other gimmick card Marshadow could hit harder too
>>57125599if your gameplan relies on pidgey surviving an electric attack then you're pretty much fucked anyway chief
>>57125608Pureasu puray cerebi and mew-ex gaijin-kun
>>57125616I like Marshadow with Primape but it's really easy for both of them to get killed due to low HP. Marshadow should really be able to deal 120 damage off of a KO since you have to conceede a point, like why does Primape get the same output off of a simpler effect? And the base damage should be higher too, they're essentially the same card as is but Marshadow should be like 110HP, 60 base damage and 120 effect.
>>57125621It's not my gameplan, because I'd be the one playing the electric deck in the scenario. Other 50 damage attacks you might want your Pidgey to tank include Gio boosted Farfetch'd or Genetic Apex Rapidash
>>57125624Opened 40+ packs already and not a single Celebi or Serperior... after not getting a single Moltres, Articuno, Blastoise in the last set. Shit is fucked and I find ex decks boring mostly-- they really should have put effort behind an anti like Tauros. I've beaten Celebi and Mewtwo with Tauros but it was only because my opponent bricked or misplayed.
I LOVE POISON DECKS
>>57125634I have 0 Koga and I don't want to buy 2
I'm still missing one steel Pokemon for my premium pass.It feels like they purposefully didn't put any steel cards into the new pack just to force premium pass users to waste their extra pack on opening Gen Apex.
>>57125634Is new Weezing ever worth playing over two of the old ones? The art is much more kino.
>>57125633What they need to do is put effort into non ex decks in generalBlaine and Koga are doing alright (and dragonite used to be cool last set) but there haven’t really been any non ex decks to use here aside from drudd/gren/flareon and primeape/marshadow
>>57125632If you're getting your first stage to tank, you're already on the back foot, is my point.
>>57125608I’m just wondering what they were thinking with Druddigon. Online matchmaking has quickly devolved into almost nothing but Misty and Druddigon decks, and it’s killing my motivation to play. The current online meta seems pretty difficult to counterpick unless you’re running Drudd, yourself.
>>57125645It really do be like that sometimes
>>57125579What is Misty's Favor for $400
>>57125640It doen't work very well with koga since it needs 2 energy
>>57125641I was hoping a supplemental set like this would help boost non-ex decks to a decent level without requiring specific Supporters.This deck is good fun but I'd prefer Stonjourner to Onix if I had it, and a better quick attacker than Kang. Basically only works like 40% or the time, if opponent gets Mewtwo or Misty working it's over.
>>57125646Haven't seen many Druddigon after day 1 personally, I played a Celebi using Drudd to wall and same for Dragonite, but when I set up a Dragonite/Druddigon deck my opponent just... Refuses to attack Durddigon at all unless it's a one shot, so the game ends up being stall shit and Dnite is so slow to get online...
>>57125645>game "shuffles" your deck to be all trainers on top (besides Oak and Ball ofc :^))Nothing personnel
>>57125446
>>57125616I'm fine with Marshadow's damage I wish he had 100 HP.
>>57125674Well, yeah. That's being on the back foot.
>>57125661>Onix without BrockStrictly worse than Stonjourner.
>>57125472me too. Especially Moltres. I refuse to battle with it because it's fucking ugly.
>>57125693Oh nevermind you address that in your post. I only looked at the image before replying.
>>57125669In ~15 or so games over the past 24 hours, I’ve seen around 10 water decks (mostly Gyarados) and at least half of the opponents were using Drudd.Drudd sits there, sure, but Leaf pulls him out for the cost of a support. Really, the 100 HP combined with Rough Skin is a blight on the current meta. I’m not going to complain about M2 getting one-shotted by Gyarados after attacking Drudd, but Rough Skin opens up significantly more opportunities than that.
>do 0 damage to Druddigon>don't take any damage from Rough SkinHuh, good to know.
Sabrina is a dead card in most games these days
>>57125517>and cardSabrina, because she can go in any deck.
>>57125699That is good to know. Are things like promo Jiggly exempt, or is that limited to cards that simply don’t do damage like Chatot?
>>57125703I tried to hit a Drudd with my Celebi and got all tails. Didn't take damage.
>>57125704Looking at the card, it specifies that Drudd has to take damage from an attack for the effect to work, so that’s working as intended.
>>57125700I'd been noticing that myself, but she she is useful it's often early on so it's still hard to cut a copy.
*when she
Well.. I'm gay
>>57125711When it's time to make the next thread, you do it
>>57125446TCG Pigeot without its iconic ability quick search feels wrong.
>>57124926My favorite is Porygon and I accept that it's bad.
>>57125711Well... this is me
>it's an Oak draw when you need to play another supporterDon't you just hate it when it happens? So many mistakes have been made because playing the card is a reflex.Anyway Mewzing, or rather Mewzingbok is every bit as fun as you'd expect. Just lacking firepower late game depending on matchup.
How do you connect sameboy emulators to trade pokemon? Can you do it without the Retroarch frontend?
>>57125608>>57125616The advantage of single prizers (or I guess in this game it's a single point because there are no prizes...) Anyways the advantage is diminished if you have to spend two to ko an ex, kinda pointless and even more difficult to use if they can just get ohko by something like celebi or gyara, etc. this has been a flaw with the card game and even the main card game for a long time
>>57125661>the year of our lord 2022+2 12 months>using Kanghaskan
>>57125746Tabs.
>>57125749With Leaf around it should probably be 2 Stonjourner instead, but here you go.
>>57125757I'd rather have Kanghaskan, thoughbeit.
>>57125757How the heck is everyone getting these full art trainers? I've been playing since launch and I just pulled my first one this week
>>57125762Anon that's not an in game screenshot. He doesn't necessarily have the FAs. If you want to get them without whaling you can scum god packs picks on Discord.
>>57125766>spoilerJust be aware that going that route is still (often) a pain in the ass.
>>57125762I've got a Sabrina, a Brock and 2 Surges, playing (almost) since global launch and with 0money spent (used the free trial, though). Just gotta luckshit a little.
>>57125772If the people here weren't so autistic we could do it here.
>>57125640I've tried it, mixed 1 and 1 with classic weezing. 50 damage is nice, and watching them miss with the coin flip is funny, but 2 energy kills it for the fast wall classic weezing is
>>57125762I've been playing since launch and I have never seen one either but I have like 7 immersives so idk if those are even rarer.
>>57125517>>57125517>best waifu Erika my love <3 >and cardSabrina
The best partner for the non-EX Galvantula deck was right in my face. I think this is the best this deck can be (not very good by meta standards). It takes a bit of switching and finessing to get the best outcome but the deck does better now when going first than it did before. It still performs insanely better when going second but now it doesn't auto lose going first.
>>57125762I only had an FA Giovanni from when I started, then a 10-pull got me FA Expeditioner and Blue
>>57125579Doesn't Giovanni have the hearts option?
>>57125797You would use zapdos ex instead if you were using an ex deck?
>>57125784On average>Genetic Apex: Charizard89.13 packs per Immersive Charizard and 381.13 packs per FA Erika, FA Blaine, and FA Sabrina.>Genetic Apex: Mewtwo89.08 packs per Immersive Mewtwo and 343.62 packs per FA Koga and FA Giovanni.>Genetic Apex: Pikachu89.13 packs per Immersive Pikachu and 381.13 packs per FA Misty, FA Brock, and FA Lt. Surge.>Mythical Island89.02 packs per Immersive Celebi and 379.13 packs per FA Blue, FA Leaf, and FA Budding Expeditioner.
>>57125762We are lucklets simple as. The only 2 star cards I've pulled are Moltres, Machamp, and Pikachu. Still no FA trainer pulls or any crowns or immersives. I got Sabrina and Leaf FA through wonderpicking. Failed on an Erika and budding explorer wonderpick though.
>>57125804He does not.>Sparkles Flair: Gold>Twinkles Flair: Gold>Ripples Flair: Navy blue>Bursts Flair: Orange
>>57125825She's a tomboy then :^)
I just love fossils too much.
>>571254691) proof on the ai slop2) the threads were called tcgp before you even had the game installed on your device
Psychic’s deck thinning is absurdTurn 3
The current meta is ass, and they did Aero dirty. I wish I could pretend I beat this guy for any reason other than the fact that he was running regular Gyara instead of the ex.
>>57125862It really is. The slab single-handedly broke the type. A Sigilyph is fine too.
>>57125842I tried this out after you posted it last thread. Honestly it's not terrible, the drawback to omastar seems to be that they can still retreat out of the effect, but oftentimes you set them in a scenario where they waste so much resources retreating every turn that eventually you just win. I tried one tauros and one farfetch'd instead of kanga, probably would switch to farfetched and kanga because tauros is honestly a little disappointing
>>57125875I tried Tauros too, but it creates an energy funneling problem, and it just pisses you off when your opening hand gets you stuck with it. Kanga is the glue that cements everything together.I want to figure out what to do with Tauros eventually though. I saw someone run it with Scolipede and liked it since it and Weezing have the low maintenance the bull needs.
>>57125808Zapdos EX would be better but if you are using EX you would be better off with Pikachu EX. I don't know if Pikachu benefits from Galvantula but if you're running Sabrina it might fit. I would also consider Pidgeot EX or Wigglytuff EX as alternatives. The deck basically gets a kill or a trap with Galvantula but then it needs a big bomb to follow up and it needs to be fast enough for the current meta. If you get lucky, Galvantula can eat everything.
>>57125883Yeah the design of tauros has a lot of issues. The game is too fast for you to run two Pokemon that both need three energy, and tauros is bad... It would be much better if it did 80 base + 40 for ex
>>57125842Red card is bad just run two kang
>>57125883I'm running Tauros in the Scolipede deck and it's been fine. I've even won a few games where I bricked with it as my starter. I do think he's a great fit for the deck.Tauros only needs 2 energy on the bench and Whirlipede/Scolipede only need 1 energy on the bench, so getting Tauros ready isn't an imposition.The only times where I've both needed to get Tauros ready and had trouble doing so were games where I lost an energy to Koga twice early on.
>>57125904>only needs 2 energy on the bench That's a big ask in a fast-paced game like this but ultimately it depends what your main attacker is. If your main attacker also requires three energy I feel like Tauros is too much
>>57125898>>57125904If I had a second Moltres EX, intuition tells me can trust [one] in a fire engine.
>>57125907>That's a big ask in a fast-paced gameI haven't been keeping notes but I feel like my game usually go past turn 12 so the energy turns up at some point.That's at least 6 energy, which is enough to get both Weezings and both Scolipedes online. Which isn't what you're going to do with it.>>57125914Moltres decks have had success cutting Charizard for Mew so I'm sure you could fit it.
>>57125640Depends on the deck you have, since lack of poison prevents the good old "shit on them, koga out and finish with venoshock" strat.
i hope all events arent just the recycled 50 wins into 5 win streak nonsense. Make events that encourage using silly decks.
>>57125947th is your definition of silly, decks that have more than an a 25% chance of winning? I got my 45 Ws going no-EX
>>57125797Why regular zapdos? It's strictly inferior to EX in almost any situation
>>57125700I just think you arent thinking dynamically enough about sabrina, even worst case scenario she can slow an opponents game plan by one turn or take a leaf/x speed from their resources
>>57125975Just to counterpoint, I almost never play an early board that is susceptible to Sabrina if I can help it.>arcanine deck>playing turn 2>moltres ex and growlithe in hand>only play moltresMost people aren’t going to red card on turn 1 if they even have it, so this play almost always ensures an attempt at energy generation with moltres.
>Bricked with 8 cards in hand
>>57126000Next turn I draw Hitmonlee btw
>>57126000Brocked* with 8 cards in hand
>>57125435>SEXOOO SEXOOOO I CLAPPED WHEN THE SEXOOO APPEARED
>>57126000Stage 2 decks never truly change.
>>57125947There's literally no ranked or any stakes, you have full choice to play whatever silly deck you want, even in events there will be sweatier decks than others, the common/uncommon events in yugioh people were tweaking out over banning decks
>play quick fire blaine deck>free wins against all the celebitardsLiterally cruising to 45 with ease
>>57126021I just really dont like misty
>see golem deck and think I can build it>0 brocksguess I’ll never build that
>>57126000This shows that individual tournaments results don't mean shit. Luck is 90% of the game if you're using a not self sabotaging deck
>>57125947First time playing online card games? That's literally how it goes
>>57126035Wonder Pick
>>57125435Previous: >>57123534
I hope they never add a ranked mode, the threads would become a living hell.
>>57126035>>see golem deck and think I can build it>>0 golemsguess I’ll never build that
>>57125974>non-EXsee >>57125885
is golem actually that good or did that player just get lucky with match ups. Im playing the same deck right now and its good, but you brick a shit ton. It helps that people keep playing celebi whereas other grass decks would actually give this deck trouble
>>57125762I started playing a week ago, I haven't spent any money and I pulled FA Sabrina x2 + FA Leaf
>>57126049Fortunately, avoiding that is one of the few reliably things about Nintendo franchises.
I'm starting to believe the deck weight theory. I was fighting nothing but the same few meta decks with my Druddinja deck, but then watched a friend play his new account's thrown together decks against far worse decks than what I was facing. I assumed it was an MMR thing, but then I switched to a shitty Alakazam deck and now I'm fighting stuff like Golurk and Aerodactyl.
>>57125825Fujosisters....
>>57126063It's too early to tell. These are the only results we have for the deck.
>>57126061100 is barely higher than 70 and has the side effect of killing your own bench. Raichu might be way better as it has a real 'bomb' dealing 140 and can dish out two in a row if you have a swapped spider and Surge. Regular zap seems absolute dogshit to me as it also bricks your game if you find it as first mon. 100 is also weak as fuck, EX deals less than 100 only 30 something % of the time and has major benefits over that shitter
>>57126063The only thing that can one-shot a Golem post Guard Press is Charizard. As long as you meet the 4 energy requirement, it can carry you even from a 0-2 disadvantage. Marshadow and Hitmonlee also assist on some niche scenarios
>>57126097>>57124708
>>57125435You think Sabrina could use her psychic powers to jerk you off at a distance?
>>57126103https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/57000224/#57000243
I’ve had absolutely ass luck for the last two days. Just constantly drawing two druddigon two Leafs and then pokeball research and basics at the bottom of the deck. Do I take the chatot pill? Is that even much more consistent or are you just feeding the opponent free points?
>>57126101But 3 of those are RNG-reliant
>>57126105Wait, so it would be Alakazam the one who's psychically jerking me off? Goddammit.
>>57126114Moltres is RNGDrawing the 3 cards for a Stage 2 is RNGYou are playing a CARD GAME
this Golem deck is a fucking meme. i'm convinced this guy got the flukiest streak of his life.
I don't think I'm getting these avatars unlocked.Also zero Leaf zero Scolipede
>>57126092It's all bullshit, I'm running shit tier Rapeape/Marshadow/Tauros and getting stuck against Misty and Celebi. Meanwhile my Melmetal deck gets matched to Blaine/Zard every time.
>>57126131I only have 1 Mew but I think I'm at 5 Blues.
>>57126122What if its a female alakazam?
>>57126097Golem isnt one shotting many mons back either though.
>>57126136
What makes Druddigon so good?
>>57126092i believe it. every time i queue up with m2, zard ex or literally any other meta list i got nothing but other meta lists. whenever i play blaine i get lists people just clearly threw together, or maybe the occasional budget celebi with 1 celebi ex. i don't necessarily mind it since i like playing blaine but it certainly is fucky.
>>57126131>>571261354 SIR Vapeoreons and no >Leaf>Celebi,>Fucking Venepiede
>>57126146zero energy
>>57126131RIP I've got Blue's, but I actually want Mew
>>57125634is the new koffing better?
>>57126148ooh noyou can't make a binder where venipede sexes up leafwhat a tragedy>>57126153nonot doing 20 damage turn 2 rarely matters but the extra retreat cost bites you more often than the card draw helps
>>571261460 effort to use, you send out a 2 retreat cost 100hp wall and just build bullshit in the back. Opponents attacking into it will put them in range to get one shotted.
>>57126142You usually use Giovanni so you can hit that 130 mark on Celebi. They are not gonna run Blue just for this matchup. And even if they take it down, it's still a 1 point
Everyone here discussing new metas with the new mythic island cards while I'm here still using the same charizard ex deck since launch that got me to easily get the 45 wins emblem in both events
>>57126146>big hp>can attack without energy>gets a free attack after its death (in most cases)>attacks before your turn has even started, so you can retreat, and finish your opponent with another mon
>>57126131Seriously getting convinced this game has account seeds. I've opend 50 packs, have 5 mew, 5 raichu, missing several 1 and 2 diamonds. Also have 4 arcanine, 4 gengar, 4 pika ex, but missing like 5 other ex from GA. Similar deal with other cards like 8 erika, 1 misty.
>>57126178Yeah i think we will see a charizard resurgence soon. Its a good card, mew counters it but so what? One shots so many pokemon people are sucking off atm.
>>57126153It's better if you're first and have 1 or 2 weezing in hand, and your other koffing is in the bottom of your deck. That's it.
Mew is more fun than I thought. Also the maintenance is nice and low for the brama bull.Please consider hitting up my character.ai posse some time, yee.
>>57126195Nice resolution bro
>>57126195Needs more pixels
They're probably gonna stop wonder pick godpack hunters by simply making it so pack openings done before you friended the bots don't show up in wonder picks
>>57126195you considered putting a gengar ex in there? not to attack just for the ability
>>57126063It's not bad, but the guy did get lucky with the matchups, card draws etc. Just observe the results of other tournaments in the coming days, you won't see many Golems in the top 8/16/32 just because of its sheer inconsistency when compared to basic EX Pokemon decks
>>57126207I'm kind of surprised they didn't implement this already with how greedy dena and tpci is
>>57126195dude. just use: https://my.limitlesstcg.com/builder
>>57126207I expected them to do that when they added the mew pack but them not doing it might mean they've just accepted it.Whales are still going to whale. They value time over money which is why they whale in the first place. They aren't going to sit for 40 minutes camping a discord to get a chance at a card when they could just throw money at the game. They probably view people on Twitter posting their god packs which excites people who ask for their friend code as free advertising. You can't stop godpick hunters without ending that too.Maybe they'll find a way to stop the bots themselves.
>>57126153It's worse into mew2 and mew since you really want to be hitting for weakness even if you don't have weezing
>>57126248Even vs other decks that 20 damage when going second can often matter since the deck isn't aiming to one shot stuff and Weezing's whole point is to hit hard early on.
>golem player wanting to revenge kill me with Marshadow>stalled him forever until a Tie Kek
>>57126207That wouldn't stop botters it would just make things more of a hassle. Off the top of my head>friend your bots>don't refresh WPs>when a bot gets a godpack, all your other bots unfriend you>refresh WPsThe ACTUAL solution is a banwave. Unless there are consequences it will keep happening.And bans would mean less customers spending gold on WPs (who wouldn't be buying gold to open packs, price discrimination ahoy!).Botting is against the TOS but given that they haven't banned people for it yet, I doubt they will in the future.Maybe it'll become a problem if FAs can be traded. I assume they won't be tradable but I guess we'll find out in January.
>>57125599Can't match Joltik tho.
>>57126266why are celebi players like this?
Just a reminder that the damage soft cap of each pokemon is infinite, because it can just attack every turn :^)
>>57126306990
>>57126306arcanine EX can't
>>57126210I got two of the exes, but it's a hard choice. If you're not running Garde the commitment can come back to bite you, especially with the Tauros there. Mew's firepower is [likely] superior to Gengar EX.>>57126217Yes master. Also darn, that's the wrong one anyway.
It's ridiculous druddion isn't at least 3 cost retreat
every time Druddigon gets brought up in a r*ddit thread it gives me an aneurysm. there's somehow STILL over 9000 people asking a question along the lines of "BUT HOW DO YOU RUN DRUDD? DOESN'T IT SCREW UP YOUR ENERGY? SEEMS BAD"
WHY DID I GET HER AGAIN I JUST WANT THE AERODACTYL EX
>>57126314
>>57126323Maybe stop using a shit site.
>>57126143>alakazamo
Dont forgot that if charizard attacks into drud, it suddenly gets one shotted by Gyarados. Thats bad for the card.
>>57126305Because he hurt my beloved Snivy that's why
Don't worry. Drudd will get replaced by a better wall next set
>>57126210They literally have the same ability.Both of them require being the active slot. It's just that one is stronger and the other is far easier to get online.
>>57126266Doesn't the game time you out if you don't play after 90 seconds?
>>57126329
celebi is such a disappointment. I really hate how strict the build is, it doesnt function that well outside of serperior and even then the deck is get your stage 2 or die. I wish it was a support card for Bulba or other stage 2 grass mons.
>>57126358I was still playing the game I just kept switch spamming because somehow they thought it was a good idea to make the Celebi deck a 1 cost retreat
There have been atleast 1 or 2 gengars that made top 32 at that chicks tourneys. The card isnt that bad and is being overlooked.
>>57126354gengar ex needs to be active?holy fuck what a bum
>>57126365i think most people expected it to be some kind of engine like Moltres, did not see it coming that it would be an attacker
>>57126365It's literally a worse version of the M2 deck. The only thing Celebi has over it is Erika, and that's nothing compared to da slab.
>>57126097My Zam fries those everyday with Gio
>>57126365Even my Exeggutor ex deck likes having Mew more than Celebi
>>57126377Erika doesnt matter since celebi is in one shots territory for most end game mons. I genuinely think running erika in the deck is a waste.
I wish this card was actually good.
>>57126370gengar and aerodactyl are kind of boring as you don't 'see' their effects.>my skill is totally fucking your oppoent, trust me bro, he has a tons of evo/magic cards in hand
>>57126371Reading is fundamental.Honest mistake. Love ya!
>>57126306>infinitego ahead and try playing forever then retard, see how far you get
>>57126395At least Gengar can't be played around in terms of what it affects, Aero is as easy as ok lemme bench the ONE mon you're affecting IF I need THAT one since the rest can evolve fine anyway
>>57126395Naaah Gengar is plenty impactful. No sabrina, geo, blue, processors research. These are cards that see play nonstop during crucial moments. Aerodactyl straight up has an ability that is irrelevant
>>57126395At least when Gengar's out you don't need to worry about Grass Pokemon suddenly gaining 50HP out of nowhere
>>57126314On second thought I think 2 slab, 1 Gio is more wise. Prepping Tauros should give me enough time to find out to sack a 130. The two Leafs is also to get his fat ass out the way when I need to.
>>57126365That's most decks though, you get like a few cards leeway for 'flavor'
>>57126179It doesn't attack though, it just sits there and gets ignored while your opponent sets up. Needing the opponent to do anything to proc an effect is shitty.
>>57126430>Needing the opponent to do anything to proc an effect is shitty.In theory, yes. But Drudd puts a lot of mon into critical break points once his fat ass is (eventually) dispatched, and these decks are all running 2 Drudd to get around mid/late game Sabrina.
>>57126327Boo hoo nigga
Another win for the joltik deck, feel almost like cheating
Aerodactyl is so gimped because opponents can still evolve on the bench. Dena are bitches who won't make a full lockdown deck because it's "broken" and "degenerate" but there's all the other busted EX cards.
IMO drudd tanks are extremely overrated here. I've faced a couple of them while I used a pika EX deck and they've not been too much of a hassle. A full bench + gio one shots them and even without them a potion helps negate most of the damage.
>>57126096I tried Raichu but it's far too slow. If you get it early and attack once you lose. Basic Zapdos can stall, can win games on its own, and it 2 basics instead of 2 basic + 2 stage 1. Surge is quite inconvenient and never comes through when you need it. Basic Zapdos has a downside but it has many workarounds like being the last on the field. It has been doing well on the deck.
The thing about an EX card that makes them so dominant isn't necessarily just their big HP or stronger attacks, but that they're geared towards a particular game plan.
>>57126403That's why it's a "soft" cap :^)
>>57126468It's a pretty big deal, especially if you like opening with the 10-20 BP shitters. The T1 decks don't need to play that game most of the time.
>>57126483>BPbattle power?
>>57126443Feels great when it wins on its own. I'm retarded and it took me too long to match it with a pair of Sabrinas.
>>57126471Mew EX's gameplan being "no u"
>>57126143>Mr.Mime>Femalewhat did they MEAN by this?
>>57126483"Yeah. Petilil, Sigilyph, Mew basic attack, etc.
>>57126495It's Miss The Mime not Mister Mime
Put a girl on
apologize
>>57126493Ditto was robbed hardcore. If Ditto had a Poké Power that let it change its type to whatever it's on the field or bench, that would have been nice.
>>57126280A banwave would be hugely controversial because of all the people who are benefiting without running the bots themselves.>I just added someone who a friend told me had a god pack, how was I supposed to know he was cheating!!! :(((((Wonder Picked cards will probably be untradable, yeah. I was expecting that regardless of bots.
>>57126508im sorry i doubted your shoop da whoop lookin ass
bros... go on without me i dont have the stamina to summon
>>57126508Not until I pull a playset of it.
>>57126521>can't receive more fiend requestsis this a list churning bot or should i stop bothering?
>>57126468there aren't a lot of non-EX cards that can punch through Drudd without taking significant damage themselvesfor anyone trying to play budget/off-meta/etc it's just extra condemning. a lot of the meta has been about killing 100+ HP mons before they can go off, Druddigon adds an extra 100+ HP difference to that
>>57126468Word, they play exactly as I called it from the beginning, didn't expect trouble from them and don't have trouble from them, I think it's just a matter of bandwagoners getting vocal because they don't do their own thinking and have to 'discover' how Druddigon is played
>4th FA MarshadowGross.
Emergency ban Serperior, change it's ability, or print real energy solutions for every single type. This game is fucking trash in it's current state.
>>57126458I feel like given how hard they held back on them, we should get fossil/evo searcher cards to make up for it. It's only fair. Basic already gets so much and they can have even more broken capabilities/damage.
>>57126521>3 marowaksI'll pass but I also don't have any hourglasses left lol
>>57126538Bro is mad over a fucking 3 stage pokemon
>>57126508i still prefer regular Garyno it's not because i have 3 FA of him>>57126538>real energy solutions for every single typeWater has MistyElectric has Magneton/Surge for what that's worthPsychic is obviousGrass also has LilligantFighting has seen a lot of popularity because people are realizing Brock is actually good (granted it's because MI gave the deck needed support but i digress)then there's individual cards like Meltan/GI Ex that function fine on their ownthe only actual failure of Serp's design is that it does dick for the grass mons from the last set.
>>57125738https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/57123534/#q57123798https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/57123534/#q57123808
>>5712653010 minutes later and I still can't get on this list. Not going to keep bothering.
>>571265086 wonder pack to get one, now i need to second.
>>57126508No. Nearly every water deck is scum. Gyarados is just M2 + Moltres. What fun.
>>57126508I don't need to apologize. I believed.
>>57126554>Magneton/Surge>BrockBoth of these are incredibly restricted. Either give everyone in the type some kind of tempo gain or get rid of it. Double energy for free because you can hide behind multiple 100+ HP bodies that can be Pokeballed is bullshit.
>>57126280>Maybe it'll become a problem if FAs can be traded. I assume they won't be tradableI acknowledge that you realize that banning for WP is retarded (for more reasons that you provided), but why would you think that FA cards cannot be traded? If anything cannot be traded, it will be Immersives and Crown Rares, but I'd imagine that Crown Rares at least will become tradeable. The most consistent aspect of all future jewish trade theories involves needing to own >2 copies in order to trade them (like flairs)
>>57126443that said I feel a bit violated that budding expeditioner ignores the can't retreat condition because it's not actually retreat teehee
The only cards you will be allowed to trade are the ones with the Chansey sticker or the promo blue square
>>57126575Ah yes those staple grass basic pokemon with 100 HP such as... The win condition you need to keep alive...
toasted
>>57126590It's a bounce. I just used it after getting out to sleep by Wigglytuff EX then flipping tails. Really strong gimmick.
>>57126590At least it costs them all the energy on it. Not a big deal with Weezing, but if you were building towards a Genome hack, that sucks.
>>57126593>2 Celebi and 2 Dhelmise>Both of which benefit immediately from Serperior>Both can be healed with ErikaAdmit you're carried and then immolate yourself to restore your honor
The masculine urge to scream "I'M GONNA FUCKING KILL MYSELF" after doing the impossible (turn 1 bricking with Blaine to a Grass deck)
>>57126614Don't forget to shit yourself while you scream.
>>57126619Well yeah how else are you supposed to shit?
I can see why the golem deck is so popular, no coinflips at all and as soon as you evolve into Golem he is pretty much guaranteed to win unless its against an even stallier deck
>>57126581im expecting them to be lenient on this because not everyone is going to have a playset of crown rares immersives the vocal minority posting their 3 crown rares isn't enough to make it so you can only go eye for eye on rarity i think they'll allow you to trade the cards as long as you have a playset of them in any other rarity so as long as you have 2 basic ex or 1 basic and 1 full art for example it's the same card so you're not going to get bricked trading away the crown or immersive rare card
game is fun, i just wish you got some more stuff for battling. Maybe trading will solve my issues, im good at saving and clearing out packs but im so sick of missing dupes of EX cards.
>>57126627>i think they'll allow you to trade the cards as long as you have a playset of them in any other rarity so as long as you have 2 basic ex or 1 basic and 1 full art for exampleI highly doubt that, but it would be nice. I have no desire to keep the Crown Rares that I've rolled, but I'll probably never be able to trade them due to how rare they are (I'll probably never get a 3rd to theoretically enable them to be tradeable)
>drudd+metal deck>BrickHow do I even brick with a deck like this wtf
>>57126538>This game is fucking trash in it's current state.Celebi isn't even a problem, bro. Tier 0 Celebi isn't actually a thing. Start playing better cards. >>57126554>Electric has Magneton/Surge for what that's worthNothing. It's worth nothing. Surge's best application is a game ending Raichu that doesn't coexist with Magneton.>Fighting has seen a lot of popularity because people are realizing Brock is actually goodEveryone has always said that Brock is good, it's just that the Pokemon he targets were shit. Not completely shit, because you still had old Golem, which people are actually now realizing wasn't really that bad, but still less than ideal.
>>57126661>which people are actually now realizing wasn't really that bad,In a world with GA Graveler and no Druddigon it was that bad.
>>57126669This. And Onix wasn’t shit in the last format.
>>57126660>don't draw Meltan for 3 turns>loseidk how that one anon does it because i brick with Druddmetal more than any other deck
>>57126669>In a world with GA Graveler and no Druddigon it was that bad.No, Golem was not actually that bad. It still one shot everything except Charizard (and the rarely played Venusaur), and it still probably swung at least twice, and it still came online on the same turn that new Golem does. It's not like you often attack on the way up with new Graveler, and it's not like Drudd is really that much different than Kanga or Mewtwo.
>>57125608Against EX decks drudd + tauros is unironically very good, tauros alone is good. Tauros first mon is a death sentence however
>>57126471That game plan being "stronger attacks".
>>57126554Delusional mistyfag, having energy acceleration in a trainer card is way better than it being an attack, especially in the grass case because Lilligant is an evolution (which also have no searches, conveniently). And water now has Vaporeon's effect so you can move the energy at will, all of this is only restricted to being water Pokemon. All the other types have to attack or can only be used for a couple of Pokemon. Meltan can't reliably set itself up unless you're against a non-attacker, it's best use is as a starter going second to get three energy on turn 2, then retreating if you haven't drawn Melmetal yet. Otherwise it just has to sit on the bench for 4 turns. Game needs, at a minimum >Energy Search>Energy Removal>Energy Retrieval >Double Colorless/Rainbow Energy>Super Devolution Spray>Some way to guarantee which energy you'll get on multi type decksThis last one is a design flaw, it should have been done so that you would alternate types every turn, with the player choosing which one is first. Or at least have an option to switch between that and random. It's just a shitty attempt to simulate drawing different cards, without accounting for the fact that the real TCG has actual generic energy and acceleration.
>>57126314>>57126424If only there was some sort of catchphrase to say when a bull Pokémon gets a knockout.
Deck matchmaking is nonsense I use a budget deck and I get paired with everything meta all the time.
>>57126683That's why I'm playing Chatot + Gyarados Ex. Only two basic pokemon in the deck and enough draw to get the other one in 2 turns tops. As far as basics go it just can't brick.
>>57126713>"When you mess with the bull, you get the horns."
>>57126470I tried running 2 different Raichu so to avoid frying all my energies unless i need to. Base Zap takes as much time to charge as Raichu, benefit is that of course you only use 2 slots and don't need to find the evo. Surge is a little bonus but you shouldn't rely on that always. That being said, I couldn't really get a decent w/l so far. I lack basic Zap so I cannot test it. Will try with EX or even Jolteon. Main issue is that Joktik is too frail, doesn't work well as a blitz frontliner like Ekans
>>57126713>Ole' motherfucker!
I haven't seen Wigglytuff EX ever since island dropped. Are sleep decks kill?
>>571267133 stage to setup 50 damage is a fucking meme. If you don't find mew turn one you insta lose right?
>>57126712>has actual generic energyJesus christ, it does? I stopped during the first or second Johto set and then played a bit in XY and I don't remember any of that. Sounds degenerate.
>>57126731See>>57126599
Fucking up an overconfident mewtwo player with Blaintales always feels so good.
>>57126731I fought a Mewtwo ex that had a hypno somewhere in it. That's pretty much as far as "sleep decks" go today. He got shooped before he could draw it, though.Now that I think about it, a proper sleep deck could really fuck up my Chatot draws.
>>57126731Tauros and Mew ex muscled it out.
>Pika beat gyrados>gyrados beats mew2>mew2 beats pika>celebi is just kinda ok, but had bad matchupsEnjoy if love conflips, you'll love this rock paper scissors matchups.
>>57125435>AI slopGrim
>>57126746>Pika beat gyradosPika beats the slow Gyarados, turbo Gyarados beats Pika, but slow Gyarados beats turbo Gyarados.
>missed so many wins because faggot Gyarados never discards the opponent's energy
>>57126746>celebi is just kinda ok, but had bad matchups>Routinely beats Blaine and Moltres decks because it outpaces both of themCelebi players are actually delusional
Christmas logins start tomorrow?
>>57126754>outpaces Blaine's turn 2 OHKO???????
>>57126732The main attacker is Mew, and Tauros in select situations. The [meme] Gengar is support that only takes 1 energy on all stages. So far it's more comfy over EX Gengar because you're not pressured to commit to it over Tauros, and you don't get the EX fuckup penalty for dropping.
>>57126754>Routinely beats BlaineI must be playing against absolute retards then because I don't think I've ever lost as Blaine against Celebi even when I draw poorly.
>>57126683>idk how that one anon does itYou can get wins with any deck if you play it enough. Also though, I played Druddmetal for like 3 games, and even game felt like I bricked, but I ended up winning all 3.
>>57126754It literally doesn't and has ~30% win rate against most fire decks.
>>57126713>dat opponents' cancer fieldYou're alright anon.
Blaine decks are silly what do you mean the basic rapidash is still betterWhat do you mean mystical island didnt come with a ninetales
>>57125797>electric deck>can't kill Magikarp
Worth trying to combine Golem with Aerodactyl or nah
>>57126764>>57126768>>57126771I have never lost to a Blaine deck with Celebi.
>>57126760
>>57126778>Worth trying [...] Aerodactylnah
>>57126773>what do you mean the basic rapidash is still betterLost cause detectedSay sike and that you meant Magmar
>open pack>shiny>dupe FA mashshadowFUCK.
>>57126779>one person has never lost to blaine with celebi>one person has never lost to celebi with blaineHmmm
>>57126538The game is just going to keep flying off the rails, people thought Misty was bad but they're just making the game more unhinged>>57126661>Celebi isn't even a problem, bro. Tier 0 Celebi isn't actually a thing. Start playing better cards.If it weren't a problem you wouldn't have to suggest playing better cards in the first place
>>57126739>overconfident mewtwo playerWhat would cause you to believe that someone was overconfident? This game only ever has 2 or 3 different decisions to be making every turn, most of which are obviously wrong, leaving only 1 path to victory in most cases. >>57126731>I haven't seen Wigglytuff EX ever since island dropped.I think Mew EX killed it. In pretty much every instance, you'd rather have a Mew EX than a Wiggly, and Mew's attack costs the same energy, and it has better support with the Expeditioner.
>>57126786>>57126537
>>57126790If I cut off my phone early, it doesn't count!
>>57126779Maybe you're just really lucky with both flips and draws.
>>57126751This is hilarious because the only turbo Gyarados is when you get a good Misty roll
>>57126791>If it weren't a problem you wouldn't have to suggest playing better cardsWhat kind of retard logic is this? You know this is a TCG right? You know that you can't expect to purposely play bad cards and win against the meta decks, right? You at least need to be playing good, niche cards that can win against meta (ex: Koga into Mewtwo last expansion)
>the strongest coin flipper of todayVS>the strongest coin flipper in historyyes I'm learning Japanese
>>57126783Aerodactyl Primeape is Ok but if you don’t pull Primeape early you are fucked
>>57126793>leaving only 1 path to victory in most casesThere are also situations where there is no path and I think he may be mistaking those for misplays.
>>57126793>What would cause you to believe that someone was overconfidentHe didn't attack on the first turn his mewtwo was available
>>57126713I like the 10 HP Mew in the back licking her wounds while the bird gets its beak snapped.
>>57126801Yeah, but turbo guarantees you get all pieces relatively early.
>>57126816Maybe he just misplayed, bro. Maybe he turned that warning off and forgot. Maybe he's a retard. You don't need to take misplays as disrespect, and I think that says more about you than it does the Mewtwo player.
>>57126808Oh so Celebi is a problem then, thanks for clearing that up
...yeah I really do this The bitch pulled 2 Erika and a potion. No shot
>>57126778Nah.As fun as it is, Aerodactyl takes too long to set up, and even if you do his effect only impacts the active spot.The 80 damage with no additional effects also means he won't 1-shot anything. The saving grace is amber won't take up a basic spot in your initial draw, but then you're giving up two supporters that could let you win. And that could just as easily be another basic with more utility like Marshadow, Drudd, or Chatot.
>>57126827>Oh so Celebi is a problem then...no. I'm saying the opposite. I'm saying that Celebi is just an averagely meta deck, and if you're playing an even remotely cohesive pile of trash, then you should be able to beat Celebi often enough that you don't bitch about it constantly on a basket weaving forum. This is a (You) issue.
>moonrunes and rage quittingName a more iconic duo. The guy must have been really banking on a turn 4 Zeb.>>57126754>implyingI was running Arcanine/Mew because I was anticipating a lot of Celebi, and it rips through that deck with ease. Gyarados is way too common now to be running Arcanine, though.
Golem is basically an ex pokemon, and so is druddigon. Who would have thought that basic or non-ex pokemon that are accompanied by a great ability would be very useful.
>>57126820>Tauros pwning Pidgeoy>Mew with bandages and a black eyeIs there a drawfag in the house??
>>57126834>and if you're playing an even remotely cohesive pile of trashYou sure like contradicting yourself considering you said "better cards" yet this is what you have in mind for better apparently, I don't think you have anything of actual value to say at this point given you can't make up your mind about anything so I'm not gonna bother replying after this
just destroyed a blainefag with my celebi deckwhere's your god now
>>57126713>3 energy>120 damage maxTauros reads like "oh fuck we sell so many EX's we can't kill them"
Instead of arguing with each other like a bunch of VIRGINS, why don't you just settle the argument by dueling each other to prove who is right?
>>57126847>You sure like contradicting yourself considering you said "better cards" yet this is what you have in mind for better apparentlyYeah. If your pile of trash is even remotely cohesive, you should be able to beat Celebi often enough that you aren't bitching for hours on a basket weaving forum.Post your decklist. We can probably help you out.(i.e. tell you which better cards to be playing)
>>57126842No anon Druddigon IS balance because he need three energy to attack AND he needs two types of energy to attack AND his attack is underwhelming after you jump through those hoops. That's why his other characteristics get to be good. You just don't see DeNA's vision.
>>57126855nta but druddigon attack is good. Ive won games with my flareon greninja deck where the dragon attacks. 90 damage can kill stuff
>>57126790This is like those Gamblers in Vermillion!
>>57126851That's the most virgin way to settle things.
>>57126851Nobody can beat me. I'm unrivaled.
>>57126863...As opposed to internet arguments on a pokemon sex website?
I genuinely believe that Druddigon is a good card that is not at all a problem. He's a better Kangaskhan, but he's really not that much different than Kangaskhan, he just does mental damage with the threat of his ability. The breakpoints for this meta are 120/130 anyway, which Drudd helps soften, for sure, but ultimately I find him to be fair and balanced.
>>57126850I mean, one Giovanni and that's a dead Mew or Celebi. It's not splashable, but it's got potential. Two retreat cost and Leaf makes it neat assassin if you can pull off the energy management.
>>57126731Wiggly wasn't actually ever that good. People were just desperate for new stuff to play.
Wiggly EX should be a two energy card. Prove me wrong.
>>5712685990 damage for 3 energy is below rate and 100 HP for something that needs 3 energy is fragile. I'm not saying the attack is garbage, but it's definitely underwhelming. They'd have given him better stats if he didn't have Rough Skin.
>>57126871My answer to run it is one only Tauros and two Leafs though, because you want to mitigate the brick factor as much as you can.
>>57126875160 damage (average) for 3 energy is pretty good I think
Where we going bros?
Gyarados on its own is not threatening, it's Gyarados with a good Misty flip that's BS, Misty was cancer last pack and it's cancer again this pack, ideally they ban it but it probably won't happen so you just have to hope for immediate Tails for who knows how long it'll even take for it to stop being a Water staple
>>57126875>Wiggly wasn't actually ever that goodWiggly is pretty good, what do you mean? 80 damage isn't that bad, and sometimes you just win off it (opponent can't flip heads).
>>57126883spin your phone as fast as you can and touch a random spot
>>57126883same spot
>>57126885Gyarados EX is still good even when Misty flips zero heads. Gyarados kills most of the cards in the game (and Mewtwo with a Giovanni or Drudd chip, because Mewtwo doesn't run potions now) and it survives most of the cards in the game. And it has Greninja for random things that live an attack.
>>57126883Pick number 3 my lord
What would Druddigon look like if it was human?Would you date it?
>>57126883top right
>>57126891It fucking worked. I am a spin believer now.
>>57126900Congrats
>>57126880The thing with Drudd is that it gets to “attack” without energy investment. There’s often no way to get it off board without swinging, and when you do, you’re active probably just entered a break point that results in knockout, assuming it wasn’t already in one.
>>57126900>dubsgz mate
>>57126897>humanYou mean anthromorphic bara sex object?
If Wiggly is so good why the fuck is no one running it?
>>57126879I can't, in fact, Wiggly should have two attacks. One for sleep at 2 energy dealing 40 instead, and a 3 energy double slap that does 60 damage per coin flip based on attached energy
>>57126879>Wiggly if she 2 energy
>>57126883If it helps in case you don't get it, it's all predetermined and the spot doesn't matter. Hope you get it though
>>57126894>because Mewtwo doesn't run potions nowSounds like it's their fault, I still run double Potion in nearly all my decks, it makes a difference in not just those matchups but others like Pikachu or Articuno and/or Starmie or Blaine where they're trying to soften you into a checkmate position.
>>57126903I understand why Druddigon is good. I'm trying to explain to you the nature of the balance team's ineptitude. Maybe I wasn't laying it on thick enough, but I thought>You just don't see DeNA's vision.made it clear that >>57126855 was sarcasm.
>>57126910see >>57126793Mew EX is just a better "3 colorless energy" splash card that is also a Basic and comes with a dedicated Koga if you choose to run it.
>>57126903>There’s often no way to get it off boardSabrina feels pretty often
>>57126910I'm guessing it costs to much energy to run for a card that costs two points if it gets knocked out
>>57126923If there's no reason to run Wiggly then by definition its not a good card. I mean the card wasn't even that frequent even before the new set came out.
>>57126920>Sounds like it's their faulthttps://www.pokemonmeta.com/top-decks/community-tournaments/shimohiro-cup-(128-players)/8/mewtwo-ex/%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3/bHrAwMost of the 1st place Mewtwo decks aren't running potions anymore.
>>57126743>That's pretty much as far as "sleep decks" go today.Maybe something like this?>>57126913Shiinotic Vileplume has the same energy.
>>57126932Just because Mew EX is a god tier splash card doesn't mean that Wiggly EX is bad/not good. It just means Mew EX is the de facto splash card now.
>>57126900Holy fuck. I just pulled another Mew full art from the packs. I'm gonna make a Mew deck now.
>>57126910The spot it fills is better suited for tauros and being stage 1 means it doesn't fit in more recent decks that run multiple stage 2 and 1 lines.
post paypigs in your friendlist
The increase in druddigon usage is making my garbage seadra/greninja deck take cheeky wins because i just snipe their ex in the back so im pretty happy with this new booster pack
>>57126948Thoughts on Lumineon?
>>57126942AAAAAHHH I NEED TO SPIN MY PHONE I'VE TRIED WONDER PICKING THIS 6 TIMES NOW I KNEW NINTENDO WAS ACCESSING MY PHONE'S TILT SENSOR
>>57126951Cool but not as flexible as seadra since lumineon can only target the bench.
>>57126919Has this been proven?
>>57126933That doesn't mean much considering they have fluff cards anyway, like in that link the Mew and Giovanni and 2nd slab and 1 of either the X Speed/Leaf make up a flexible area, I only say the 2nd slab because after playtesting I found myself liking 1 more
>>57126775I lost count of all the Gyarados deck I destroyed. I hope nobody realizes it's Gyarados is not actually good and it's just Greninja getting all the wins.
>>57126962NTA but the WP tutorial shows they can reassign the cards however they want, it's not a matter of the cards being decided once you enter the WP, but at the moment you tap a spot
>>57126969>Gyarados is not actually good>says a guy running Galvantula non-EX Zapdos as a deck
Just print pic. related and Drud becomes a non issue
>>57126964That's fine. The Mewtwo decks getting 1st place are most often not running Potions anymore. It doesn't matter if you don't agree.
>>57126974If it can lose to a deck like that then yeah it must not be all that good
>>57126969I just run gyarados because hes cool and isnt hot garbage like poliwrath
>>57126927>Sabrina>second Drudd comes inNice strat, bro. Unlike your card, mine is searchable.
>>57126962I'd assume it works the same way as opening a pack where if you close the game after committing to buying one it does away with the presentation and just gives you the cards you were already going to get, because your choice doesn't matter.
>>57126940That doesn't make any sense to me. How can a card be good just because its stats are mathematically balanced well? If there isn't a single game in the deck that benefits from running Wiggly vs some other card, then the card is not balanced well because all those other cards are balanced higher. I can't see how you can call a card good but then also acknowledge that there exists ZERO decks in the game that want to run that card vs something else.
>>57126980Anon, I think you might actually be retarded.
FTPbros, are you trying to get the mew playset? how close are you to get it?
>>57126986There are potential metas where Wiggly is better to throw in as an off-color energy sink than Mew EX. Like if everyone was running Exeggutor EX then you wouldn't want to be running Mew to spend 3 energy copying their 1 energy attack.
>>57126994I got it today. I had like 200 glasses saved for the set and also went through my monthly and discounted hourglasses for it. Now I'm saving for the next one while pulling for stuff I'm missing from Genetic Apex and wonder picking for Rainbow Mew
>>57126995Then you can argue the card is good in a hypothetical or maybe future meta, but not this one. I guess you can also argue the card WAS good in the last meta, since it actually did see play. But it still wasn't that much, so I feel like its more accurate to say "it was alright".
>>57126986>I can't see how you can call a card good but then also acknowledge that there exists ZERO decks in the game that want to run that card vs something else.Not him, but I honestly think the prevalence of Drudd has killed off most of the old Wiggly variants. I guess Greninja still works, but why bother with Jiggly/Wiggly when a large percentage decks out there aren’t attacking with or investing in their active anyway?I ran pic rel in the previous pvp event to surprisingly good success, but between Drudd and the rise of another Water deck (and Celebi…sort of), I have no confidence in this list anymore.
>>57126984>Unlike your card, mine is searchable.Yeah because you can pick what card you search in that deck
>>57126974After dozens of games against it I only lost to Greninja. Don't worry once the grapevine gets to your sheep programing you will agree.
>>57127004But what I'm wondering is, given the old meta, could this deck have been better if you had swapped out the Wiggly for anything else? How much work did it put in?
>>57126986>That doesn't make any sense to me.That's because you're either trying on purpose to not understand, or you're trying to "win">How can a card be good just because its stats are mathematically balanced well?I didn't say this. I didn't say anything like this. Wiggly is good because you can randomly win games off conflips and it takes a decent hit (and Jiggly can stall games with coinflips as well)>If there isn't a single game in the deck that benefits from running Wiggly vs some other card, then the card is not balanced well because all those other cards are balanced higherMew EX is very good. Is this what you're saying in a very obtuse way? If so, I agree with you, because that's what I'm saying too.>I can't see how you can call a card good but then also acknowledge that there exists ZERO decks in the game that want to run that card vs something else.Now you're saying something entirely different than the rest of your post was. I'm not even saying "that there are ZERO decks in the game that want to run" Wiggly, I'm just saying that Mew EX is a god tier card, it's a god tier splash card, and it is what most likely took the place of Wiggly in the decks where Wiggly was being played. Pic related is a list that placed a few days ago, and it ran Wiggly, though it might be better with Mew EX instead for a double Koga effect. Because Mew EX is busted.If you can't understand this, then you're purposely attempting not to.
>>57126913
>>57126991It doesn't really matter what you think since you let others do the thinking for you now does it
>>57127015>Don't worry once the grapevine gets to your sheep programing you will agree.You are absolutely retarded. You could not possibly be any dumber.
>>57126982I remember running Poliwrath, making him redundant with Druddigon is really something.
>>57127021>since you let others do the thinking for youkek, and you're samefagging. That's funny. You're funny, anon. Completely retarded, but at least funny.
>>57127017It doesn't really sound like you're disagreeing with anything I said at all so I don't understand what you're so confused about. How about I reframe it like this then:>in the old meta, Wiggly was a decent card. Not particularly strong, but useable and saw play>in the new meta, Mew EX has made Wiggly worthless, because there's currently no reason whatsoever to run it in any deck over Mew. Therefore in the current meta, Wiggly is a bad card.Is that better?
>>57127016It did pretty well in the old meta. Granted, I was only wanting to mess around with the silly Golbat / Onix arts, but Jiggly was solid for stalling when needed. Wiggly was an alt win condition. Assuming I didn’t take a steamer on M2 with Golbat or accelerate with Brock, Wiggly turned most of my games into a 50/50 (at worst). Not terrible considering the cards I was running.
>>57127024Yumm fried shrimp
galvantula pidgeot
>>57127030Could be worse, could be you
20 wins with my Florges deck now, today was roughI misplayed way too much and it threw me off my game>>57126994I think I'm halfway there, I did 2 10 rolls when the pack came out so that helped.
>>57127032>It doesn't really sound like you're disagreeing with anything I said You are saying that Wiggly EX is bad. You are wrong. Because this is apparently what you respond to, here:>Wiggly EX is a good colorless and splashable card>Mew EX is a totally fucking busted card that is also a Basic EX (busted) and has its own dedicated Koga card (busted) and it can single handedly win you games that you would not otherwise win, often without relying on RNG, and this effect is also colorless, splashable, and costs the same energy as Wiggly EX's sometimes game winning RNG attack, while taking up less slots in the deckIs that better?
>play Joltik>opponent plays Froakie>opponent plays no other basics>i draw Giovannilol
How to fix this game: 2 ex pokemon max per deck, no doubling omup on the same ex pokemon
>>57127036>psychic energyI'm happy that you are matching against children, anon, but it's weird that you're bragging about it.
>>57127052How to fix this game: Kill yourself
>enemy Celebi gets 7 tails and only 1 head>loses the matchKEK
>>57127060Feels good knowing a top tier deck sometimes feels the pain that i felt with bonehead
>>57127060I'm F2P and they always get majority heads vs me
>>57127072Oh I'm a premium pass chad, maybe that's why.
>>57127056Ok ex spammer
>>57127053I have had that menu item as well. bzzzzzzt
>>57127079I'm a Dragonitechad I don't play EX's
>>57127086I'm surprised this guy isn't making waves in Pikachu decks.
>>57127086>anon is going to be posting his wins against children for the rest of the day
>>57125481They both work
>>57127086absolutely based>>57127092seething manchild
>>57127092Oh stop it, do you guys intend to bully anyone who post any gameplay? Yday it was metal bro today it's Galvantula bro. I don't want this to be another waifu dump thread.
>>57127045I called the card bad cause I hate that I can't play the card without passing up on an objectively better option. But I agree with your assessment that the card is fine and its actually mew ex that's too retardedly OP. Too bad this probably will never change though unless something shakes up the meta hard like you mentioned before.
>>57127092flappity zappity your deck's a tragedy
>>57127092t. guy w/ no wins
>>57127099>>57127100>>57127102>>57127103This is just sad, now.
>bragging about wins against literal children to anonymous posters >this makes you based and everyone else cringeI guess that's the new thread meta.
>>57127119Beating children in games was always based tho?
what if... I farm the 1000 solo win throphy for no reason?
>>57127119I’d join him, but I genuinely can’t think of any fun alternative decks to run online right now. Not a fan of the current trends.
>>57127114Get a life loser
>>57127131Torture breed cat :(
>>57127129>Beating children in games was always based tho?Alright, kinda based.
>wreck a bunch of meta decks no problem>face a meme deck>fail all flips>misdraw all the time>loseIt just be like that sometimes.
If you had no crown cards from Genetic Apex and no FA Sabrina, how would spend your 2.500 pack points?1 crown card or 2 FA Sabrinas?
>>57127143I have a FA Sabrina.
>>57127143one FA sabrina and something else
>>57127143Is this a serious question? Crowns are rarer but FA trainers look better and are more desirable. I'm lucky I got a Sabrina early on.
>>57127137>Generally speaking, Munchkin cats don't appear to be any more prone to major health problems than other domestic breeds of cat. Due to their bone development, however, Munchkin kittens are known to be more susceptible to certain deformities.
>>571271432 FA Sabrina hands down. Granted I already have two FA Sabrina but if I didn't I'd get them instead of a lame crown card that's gotta get powercrept in the next following sets.
>>57127143Crowns suck dick figuratively, Sabrina literally
>>57127143I can get FA Sabrinas from WP abuse but I don't want the crown rares. I would wait to see how trading turns out then probably get more immersives.
>>571271431 crown easily, if I wanted FA Sabrina that badly I would've sniped from WP
>>57127143Why the fuck would you waste all those points on a FA? It's not like it works any better.
>you need to spend pack points to tradeHow mad would you be?
>>57127183it's going to be some gay shit like thisor 1 trade per day or if you trade a certain card once you can never trade it again
>>57127183You can't really think there's gonna be no restrictions at all
>>57127143>wasting 1250 on a card you can get for 70I’d use it on cards to play the game with
>>57127194unequivocally based
No Sabrina? Not even one?
I've spent pack points to get additional copies of cards I want to flair. Anyone else does this? Just flaired up Snivy and Servine
>>57127204You're basically one shotting everything that isn't Golem
re: deck weight, I usually get sweaty meta players with high player levels in tcg player queue but I brought a deck with Paras, Morelull, their evos and Farfetch’d as the only mons as an experiment. I got a standard meta Mewtwo deck but the player was Lv 16 and the matchmaking took a bit longer than usual.
>>57127205>wasting shine dust before trading is availableI'm not gambling that
>>57127194>>57127178I already got all meta cards. It's a collecting game and pokégirls are cute!>>57127177>>57127173Never seen one in Wonder Pick.>>57127172>>57127166>>57127155>>57127150>>57127146I'll get Sabrina, then. Thanks, guys.
>cant name my deck GOLEM GET YE GONEwhy??
Am i stupid or is there no real benefit to running Blastoise over Gyarados? Ones a stage 2 but doesnt actually seem any stronger? He does 160 with 5 energy. This card is so undercooked
>>57127234Same reason I can't name my Melmetal deck Metal Empire because it's a Digimon copyright or something.
>>57127234just name it GET YE GONE and put Golem as the featured cards
>>57127239You cracked the code. Nobody's running that shit.
>>57127194based
>>57127240>>57127242I can name it GOLEM but nothing after that???
>>57127119most 4chan users dont really have a lot going on
>>57127239Your basic doesn't get fucked by a bench sniper and you can one shot most pokemon without needing a drudd hitAlso blast boy is much better on curve, with a 2 and 3 energy attack
>>57126951Some random Dragonite deck. >Both Dragonite and Mew Draco Meteored once>I decked out after crippling MewScreencap; they conceded because I had a Sabrina left over.One of my two slabs failed and I really could have used that late game Giovanni, so I may have to redact what I said about>>57126424
I’m losing faith in Sabrina it never really does anything for me
>>57127297Skill issue.
>>57127143I think Crown cards are a waste. Personally, I got 2 Mew EX Crowns (f2p btw) and I use them just to show off, but I don't actually like them more than the Rainbow Mew for example (which I also have). They're a symbol of your whale or luck status, I don't think they actually look good. If that's what you want to do, do it. You can always join the WP dick sword and luck into a FA Sabrina that way.
>>57127297What do you mean it never does anything, you choose when to play it
>metafags losing their mind seeing Timmy have funYou tweaker are the real losers trying to play wannabe janitor for the sanctity of the /vp/ thread in a board of pedos
>>57127131You eventually get it from just doing solo events and expansion solo battles.
>>57127297Sabrina is like the easiest card to get value out of and there's almost always an opportunity for it in any matchup, how the hell are you struggling with it?
>>57127297She won me a game today, without her I would've lost.
Volcarona is underrated it's come in clutch so many times for me>opp gets 4 energy on magikarp right away with misty but doesn't evolve>get perfect Moltres roll>xspeed into Volc and snipe fish>concedesgg ez
>>57127282No idea why I quoted that guy so I might as well answer.Better than in the games, kek.Though the one person I seen use it funded the mon early when I didn't have a bench. He surrendered. Must have had a misread moment; like me when I thought EX Pikachu's effect didn't discriminate type like a much better Cincinno.
>>57127319Funny. I misread Cincinno and thought you needed to field it in an all colorless deck.
>>57127297>cannot find a use for the most braindead support card in the game.Should have kept that to your self fr.
>>57127204I need just a single gyarados aaaaaaaaaah
>>57127297Some decks don't need 2, if you feel like 2 is too much just run 1. Others don't care what the active pokemon is and will cut her altogether. Also it's not just used to knock out from your opponents bench, but can also be used to stall and force your opponent to waste an energy to switch back in.
>>57127297People run Sabrina without thinking why they need it, thats the issue. Why did Charizard decks not run it? Becauze you one shot everything anyway. Why does the Gyarados deck not run it? Because again you one shot everything with Greninja support and drudd chip damage. Not every deck needs to snipe something from the bench.
So we all agree that if the new set doesn't have any sort of draw support for evolution cards (even if just stage 2), dena is a bunch of fucking retards, right?
>>57127340>force them to waste an energy>they just “Lul X speed” because literally everyone runs it
>>57127338And no, Giovanni is not more braindead, because it's very easy to waste it.
>>57127348You're still forcing them to make that trade. Its a counterplay and the trade will end in their favor, but it also requires them to have the card in hand. Its still worth risking if you're in a scenario where you need to stall for time like you're bricked or something.
>>57127297Sabrina is a top 3 consistently gamewinning cardthe only way it doesn't secure wins is if you've got two of them in your hand before you have your second Basic
>>57127348Are you a slowpoke?Priority use: snipe benched pokémonSecondary use: force opponent to waste turns putting energy on high retreat cost pokesTertiary use: force opponent to waste 1 energy to retreat pokéQuaternary use: use it to force the opponent to use X-Speed or Budding Shota
>>57127348In a good scenario you can have people waste their energy slot and cards in their hand just to save a mon from getting shit on.Or if you try the ancient art of saving the damn card for later, you can wait until your opponent has a weak ass bench like the guy literally above you.>>57127282
>>57127345>Great Ball>Put 1 random Stage 1 Pokémon from your deck into your hand.How's that?
guys floette is actually good wtf
>play Golem>brick 4 games in a row and die
>>57127297People often play around it without even meaning to. And when they don't they can often just X-speed/Leaf the problem away. It often never gets a chance to be useful but when it's good it can be EXTREMELY good. People overrate it a bit and it's not a must run in every deck but it's a good card.
>>57127371Hold on, its not dena enough.>flip a coin. if heads, put 1 random stage 1 pokemon from your deck into your hand.NOW its dena approved!
gyarados ex deck suck assis good against celebi decks and that's it
>>57127375>Build the T1 Celebi deck to try it out>Game goes long and never could install>Both Servine were at the bottom
>>57127297You should also be using Sabrina for tempo, it forces the opponent to waste an ex speed or energy to get back their active
Sleepniggers just rage quit when their dirty strategy fails huh?
>>57127385>SleepniggersDon't be like that, sleep/para is way cooler strat that just playing Mew2/Pika.
>>57127318I mean you can do this with Hitmonlee who is a basic pokemon and only need one energy.
>>57127385>SharticunoDeserved desu
>>57127374There's a bunch of stage 1s that do the same damage from the same energy with +30 HP. Floette is worse than them (because i can go into Florges).It's definitely better than a lot of other intermediate Pokemon like Haunter. I'll give it that much credit.
Dena here, we heard your concerns and want to demonstrate our newest card coming up in our next set:>master ball, supporter card, has a full art version>"flip a coin until you get tails. for every heads, choose a pokemon card from your deck and put it into your hand."Look forward to our next set! :)
>>57127345They already are, I don't need to wait to know the answer
>>57127390You will never be apart of the cool cards table.
>>57127385>dnite player thinking he has any moral high ground whatsoever
>>57127390>coinflip as to whether or not you can do anything during your turnSleep/Para is just as shit here as it is in the gamesi'd rather go up against more Omastars
5 wins should give me 6 hour glassesgive me a reason to play the game
>>57127414But bro, your tranny tickets?
>>57127423all cleaned out45 wins already gotI have NOTHING to do now and I aint spending money
>>57127375>>57127383Every deck in the game feel like that, you get good draw, the deck feel like it's unbeatable, you get bad draw the deck feel like it's a z-tier garbage.
>>571271432 FA Mistys
>>57127426Lightning outbreak in 3 resets.
>>571271432 FA Sabrinas
FA Sabrina owes me sex.
>>57127375>brick 4 games in a rowWell yeah you're made of building materials
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>>57127247>I can name it GOLEM but nothing after thatMaybe the game thinks you're trying some funny anti-semitism.
>>57127305>wannabe janitor tweaking at seeing Timmy lose his mind at metafags having funheh
>>57126733Double Colorless and Rainbow Energy have existed since near the beginning.
