Why does SV include a part where we cuckold Keiran?
>>57135604Because he's a little loser faggot
>>57135604this >>57135607He's a sissy faggot cuck who only appeals to other people who are just as disgusting as him.
My wife kiki
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>>57135607>>57135610Drayten, maybe if you spent more time training and less time shitposting you'd be able to defeat Kieran without hiding behind ten-year olds.
>>57135604Because he's the average /vp/ user
>>57135719Yeah, or at least not get cucked by Iris. Super seniors man..
story elements like this appeal to women, who are the majority of pokemon fans now
>a partKeep playing :)
>>57135712Wtf what a meanie
>>57135604it was pretty funny
>>57135689He is my waifu
>Childish brat who thinks he's entitled to a Pokemon just because he likes it so much>Thinks he's gonna suddenly win against the Lv. 100 Champion of Paldea>Still doesn't even think of Ogerpon's wishes when it comes to life and who it wants to be it's trainerHe's a retard, it's his own fault. With that said, the game should have given an option to just tell him the truth rather than listening to Carmine's whacky nonsense.
Is it possible to get shiny Ogerpon legal?
Kieran deserved Ogerpon waaaaaaay more than the player, but Pokemon sucks unfortunately
I liked Kieran, but making his character arc about him seething because you took his favorite mon and fucked his sister was a hilarious move on GF's part. Bravo, truly.
>>57137356you have to be 18 to post on 4chan, kieran
>>57137356Why? He got swept by a single Pokemon with no effort. If I was Ogerpon I sure as shit wouldn't want him as a trainer. Also I'm not going anywhere near Unova if I know what's good for me.
>>57137363>>57137364He didn't even have a chance to know her in the first place because Carmine is retarded
>>57137377He had the chance and decided to use it to convince the villagers. If he had any thought of catching it in the first place, he could have done that afterwards and instead spent time with it and proven himself against the Loyal Three, instead he chose to not spend pretty much any time with it whatsoever, so it never warmed up to him at all or saw any value in him as a strong trainer.
>>57135604thats your fanfic
>>57137377>Carmine is retardedAnd we like that!
>Yet another thread full of americans projecting cuck fetishes in pokemon
>>57135604Ngl, if Pokemon were real I'd make it my life mission to get Ogerpon and Tapu Lele. I'd then proceed to have babymaking sex with both of them every day.
>>57137354>likes pokemon that everyone else thinks is a villain>is excluded from interacting with it by everyone important to him (literally crushing for a child)>works hard to clear its name>doesn't feel entitled, in fact your presence makes him realize he has to work a lot harder if he wants to be a worthwhile trainer>keeps pouring in effort>stakes his entire pride and his future with ogerpon on one climactic battle with you instead of just letting his favorite pokemon goHe literally did nothing wrong. Good, innocent kid gets his dreams cockslapped by a passing well-endowed protag. Honestly if anyone is to blame it's ogerpon for being such a gold digging little slut
>>57138068>Ogerpon sees this trainer who kept it's mask safe>Proceeds to watch Keiran abandon the plan to retrieve it's masks at first>Proceeds to watch the protagonist absolutely body the Loyal Three>Only watches Keiran clear its name but it still wants to return home because that's where it feels safe>Then proceeds to make a decision based on the strength he saw in the trainer like his old Master>Keiran immediately tries to undermine it's free will and decision by trying to beat the protagonist who Ogerpon already saw Keiran lose to beforeAlso don't forget that Keiran is the entire reason the Loyal Three were freed in the first place, now granted this was because of Carmine's dumbass decision to just not tell him, but Keiran didn't deserve Ogerpon at all. The times Keiran could have interacted with Ogerpon and proved himself he chose to do other things, and while helping it is a vital thing, proving his strength was more important, which the protagonist and even Carmine did more than Keiran. Ogerpon would have picked Carmine over Keiran just because she helped fight the Loyal Three too. Imagine if Mewtwo watched Red and Blue fight each other only for Blue to lose every time, and then the one time Mewtwo needed help, Blue just ran off to Cinnabar to tell everyone "Mewtwo isn't so bad despite burning down your research lab/mansion!", then proceeded to try and lay claim to Mewtwo, only to get bodied again. It's silly. Keiran doesn't deserve Ogerpon just because he likes the Pokemon, the same way Magma/Aqua don't deserve Groudon/Kyogre just because they like the Pokemon and what they can do.
>>57138068The MC is the one who had the fates encounter with Ogerpon during the festival.The MC is the one who came in and acted as Ogerpon's knight in shining armor in her time of need.The MC is the one who traveled with her to get her all of her masks back.The MC is the one who quite blatantly showed her kindness and love when no one else had done so for her in so many years.You're right, Kieran DID clear her name, but it was something done after he expressively ditched the adventure for the masks. It's something that happened in the background, whereas the MC was acting WITH Ogerpon the whole time. The MC was the one creating experiences and new memories with Ogerpon. Kieran left himself as a background character for Ogerpon where she never made a single connection with him.
Keiran is that kid that gets mad the cheerleader chose the quarterback and tries to challenge the QB for her love because he happened to like her first. Ogerpon made it's choice, simple as that. Also Keiran's a fucking retard who lost fair and square in a winner take all, even if he had won, it's still undermining Ogerpon's wishes. Not very caring of him at all. I mean shit if helping out Ogerpon a singular time meant you had dibs then so does his grandpa for fixing the Mask.
>>57138088It is sort of funny to me that Ogerpon is the closest thing to a love interest GF has really given us.
>>57138088This, if Keiran had won, Ogerpon would have refused to be caught. He was never catching her. Also lets point out that Ogerpon has a gender, meaning chances of others existing is possible, same with the Loyal Three. He can go hunt down another one somewhere. They clearly live a long fucking time after all and are good at hiding.
>>57138090are you ignoring that were talking about Kieran here
>>57135604I almost feel bad for doing it, but I do have the better and overleveled team, so...
>>57138105Kieran deserves all his misery. He'll never get an Ogerpon waifu.
i'll never undersand 4chin obsession with cuckholdry
>>57138068And what after that? Terapagos wanted the player and he did nothing at all to get Terapagos, his spergy Master Ball bullshit almost destroyed everything
>>57138126Keiran is the next Giovanni, screaming in a cave with a radio about how he wants all the Legendaries.
>>57138130Would have been better if it was an actual villain origin story and Kieran devolved into an actual team leader
>>57138144I actually agree, it would be nice to see repeating characters actually grow and evolve over the course of the series. The only one we've really seen is the one Rocket Grunt in Gen 5 technically and Caitlyn. Hell I'd love to see older characters at this point in the timeline, people like Jasmine, Whitney, etc. would be grown ass adults, Blaine might be dead due to old age. I guess we've seen Red/Blue too being older and just having random party adventures. Keiran would go pretty hard if he became like Giovanni's protege or something and proceeded to abuse Master Balls and lead Rainbow Rocket in Giovanni's absence as one of his Admins, or just creating his own team for instance. Hell for all we know Ghetsis is still running free too, he could join up there.
>>57138155main timeline ghetsis is a potato at this point unfortunately
>>57135604There's a reason why I didn't care for the story. I mean, ffs, it's not like I signed the Official Secrets Act
>>57137454hey man, sorry nobody bit your bait, here's a pity (you)
Kieran doesn't need Ogerpon. He has a better girlfriend now
I'm gonna be over her making Ogerporn while Kieran crys in his cuck corner
>>57139549>make Ogerporn>mail a tape to Kieran
>>57138081>>57138084You people have this cucked mindset where you have to make Kieran out as some frustrated incel that insists ogerpon should be his, to feel good about cucking him I guess. When in reality he just really wants her and bravely confronts his mediocrity in that pursuit. He goes off on his own firstly because he was excluded so fuck you two and secondly because both you and Carmine don't actually care about clearing her name, you just want to go off on some mask adventure while the pokemon he loves is vilified. Really though, MC never did anything wrong on his adventure, and Kieran never really did anything wrong in his own pursuit. You can't fault him for trying to prove himself when as a 12yo he has to watch someone else walk off into the sunset with his favorite pokemon. That's what makes it a compelling tragedy, an honest, maybe naïve boy gets wrung out by fate and the result is him deeply changing, warping into a man (kid) that has nothing left except excorcising his own weakness.
HOLY MOCHI SYRUPY APPLES! Florian, what are you saying??? YOU just CAUGHT Okidogi, Fezandipiti,and Munkidori who are POISON type just like Ogerpon's WEAKNESS?!? The same Loyal Three who I WILLED into existence and I could have CAUGHT to become stronger?!? And these POISON type Pokémon have the ability to BADLY POISON their opponents merely by ATTACKING them!? And when you FIGHT in a raid battle with Ogerpon, you'll CHEAT and fill the other spots with them,IGNORE the main opponent, and COMMAND the Loyal Three to use "PLAY ROUGH" on her,to let them BADLY POISON her with their TOXIC cocks?!?! And when you COMPETE in VGC with Ogerpon, you'll ask her to use "FOLLOW ME" with max HP/defense investment,so it can take all kinds of ABUSE by EVERY Pokemon imaginable,so that her Egg Group will change from "Undiscovered" to "DITTO"?!?!?!? EH!? Y-YOU and the Blueberry Academy will also host a SPECIAL biome in the Terarium for all kinds of CROSSBREEDS and NEW regional forms that will result from the aftermath of that???? And since the Terarium is RIGHT OUTSIDE of MY School Club's window, I'll have to WITNESS the CHILDREN of Ogerpon born thanks to YOU, Florian, who let her be VICTIM of such ABUSE? Not only YOU'LL be credited for discovering MULTIPLE new species,but you'll also IMPREGNATE her and CREATE the VERY FIRST Pokemon/Human hybrid?!?!?!? What else can I say but YABBA DABBA DOO WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR, FLORIAN!? AS MY SISTER CARMINE WOULD SAY: GET IN TO POSITION!!!!!!
>>57139887>he was excludedCarmine literally asks him to join the mask retrieval squad along with the player and he refuses. He excludes himself because he's an autist.
>>57139902Did you play the fucking game retard? The whole first bit is about you, Carmine AND his grandfather keeping him out of the loop
>>57139913So fucking what. The only reason you don't tell him at first is because his grandfather asks you so (which he himself heard). The MC and Carmine offer him to join even though they had no reason to after he steals the mask and unknowingly causes the revival of the loyal three. He has an opportunity to help and spend time and maybe even bond with the Pokemon he idolizes and refuses, THEN acts surprised when said Pokemon chooses you over him and tries to "win" her over blatantly disregarding her actual feelings. He has no one to blame but himself.
>>57139962>So fucking whatStopped reading there
>>57139977I accept your concession
>>57139977yeah we know you have a tough time reading
>>57135604That it happens again with the Terapagos was pretty funny
>>57138116They're deeply miserable, resentful people who find solace in watching others suffer like them. Same mentality that produces school shooters.
we all know the real reason kieran didn't get ogerpon is because 99% of pokemon games are formulaic and giving you the new legendary is more important than the story itself, (i'll never forgive lillie giving you cosmog)
>>57135604Because the devs thought it would be funny.
>>57140707t. Kieran
>>57135604It was so perfect honestly, a random kid gets his dream crushed by the almighty MC and tries to fight back in any possible way. The Terapagos scene alone makes a movie production worth it
>keiran >krillin
>>57143892you're not ready
>>57140707This is the real reason, but at least there is justification in Keiran not getting Ogerpon, there is no justification for him losing Terapagos however, considering we can Stellar Form him and recall it just fine. There is no justification for Lillie and Cosmog either. But Ogerpon at least makes sense since it spends more time with you and Carmine than it does Keiran and you actively are having region wide adventures with it to retrieve it's masks and bond. Remember every step is a friendship level after all.
>>57144011>it spends more time with you and Carmine than it does Keiranbecause you ACTIVELY keep it a secret from him for NO reason, that's what makes his anger justified. You denied him even getting a chance
>>57135604because the game was made for pokecucks
>>57144037>NO reasonThe reason is that his own family tells you not to do it because they think he'll tell everyone and had no reason to believe it would be different from when their ancestor told everyone and got shunned. Kieran proves them wrong about telling everyone being the wrong choice but at the cost of the one chance he had at getting closer to Ogerpon instead of waiting until after they got all the masks back, that was his decision.
>>57144037Yes and that's the player and Carmine's fault, but he has every opportunity to journey with it for the masks rather than tell the village, which he could have done after the fact. The player proves itself multiple times that it's the better trainer. >beats Keiran>keeps the Mask safe>beats Keiran again>Beats the Loyal Three >beats Keiran againMeanwhile Keiran>Loses to the player twice>Releases the Loyal Three (granted indirectly Carmine/Player's fault) and he wouldn't have known that>Helps Ogerpon out (who seemingly had already made its decision to pick a trainer)>loses to the player againMeanwhile even Carmine is more deserving of Ogerpon>helps keep the Mask safe>delivers it to be fixed>Helps beat the Loyal Three
>>57144439>even Carmine is more deserving of OgerponOgerpon didn't even listen to Carmine and only the player despite her being with it almost the same amount of time. The reality is that even if the player told Kieran they saw Ogerpon, it wouldn't have changed anything about Ogerpon choosing to be with the player.
>>57144465>Ogerpon didn't even listen to CarmineWhich is kind of bullshit since repairing the mask and retrieving the rest/defeating the loyal three were both her ideas, ungrateful fuck
>>57144465Exactly which says all you need to know, that if Carmine is more deserving and it didn't even listen or care about her shit, why would it Keiran? Carmine's one display of strength is basically getting her Pokemon nearly one shot by the Loyal Three every time. Keiran's is getting his shit rocked 3 times by the player. Besides Keiran is too entitled about the situation anyway, Pokemon have always chosen who they want to be with pretty much based on their quality and strength, and he went and decided to try and undermine the thing he loves' choice, and then do a winner take all and get his ass stomped into oblivion.
Not telling Keiran was the right decision. You have to remember a few things, you've just met Keiran a day or two ago. While you quickly become friends, you've barely spent time with him even then, only ever doing so at the monuments because he chooses to go by himself to these locations and only shows up as you do or right after. Meanwhile you meet Ogerpon in the dark wearing a mask which you can't quite make out, for all your player character and Carmine knows, it's a child that has gotten lost or ran off, only the player character has some minor inkling it's a Pokemon. It's only after showing the Teal Mask to the grandpa that we have an understanding of the situation. Even then, the granpa and Carmine both tell you not to tell Keiran. Remember, you're a kid, 12 years old at the absolute most being told by Keiran's literal family not to tell him, a boy you have barely known for a day or two, and for good reason. Look at how he almost immediately acts upon not being told the truth to protect him. Now to defend Keiran, obviously he's about 12-13 years old too and doesn't quite understand that they're doing it to protect him, just as he doesn't quite get that Carmine is mean as a way of toughening him up and not showing her real feelings and protecting him, which is why he sides with Ogerpon so much as the outcast. But his immediate reaction is still to just constantly battle his so called friend for not being honest with him a singular time, the friend he's again, known for probably a total of an hour or two between two or three days at this point. And despite the parallels between You, Carmine, and Grandpa being the Loyal Three "villains" and Keiran being Ogerpon, he still tries to go against Ogerpon's wishes by proving he himself is better, it's selfish/entitled. Also imagine what he would have done being told the truth, he'd have ventured into the mountains to catch Ogerpon, potentially getting hurt by being reckless and stubborn by trying to catch it.
