Why the FVCK did it outsell gold back in the day I thought people preferred ho-oh?
>>57154992>I thought people preferred ho-oh?Maybe contrarians on this site, but normies love Lugia.
imagine being born in the 50's or 60's and then when you're 43 your retarded 8 year old says he wants the pokeyman pikanose game on the game boy color. you walk in to k-mart, send the wife and kids to the food court to get a pizza from Little Caesars, you make your way to the electronics section, you see that seductive little minx Avril Lavigne singing skater boy or complicated on like 20 tvs at once, then the cashier gives you the choice between a rainbow turkey or some kind of neat looking cool colored beast.yeah my parents got me Silver
>cool giant silver dragon bird>gay gold rainbow bird>one was in a singular anime episode for 10 seconds>the other got an entire movie Huh, i wonder why people like Lugia more?
>>57154992>I thought people preferred ho-oh?do you live in bizarro world? lugia is by far more popular. it got a lot of marketing from its movie
>>57154992Every kid was crazy for Lugia. The poor fuckers who caught Lugia in the Gold version didn't even have Aeroblast on it.
>>57154992Lugia had a movie
>>57155075Sacred Fire is a better move than Aeroblast though. But I agree, Lugia is a better design than Ho-Oh (though the Johto Beasts> Kanto Birds in terms of design)
>>57155084Ho-oh can live without Sacred Fire, Lugia is a limp dick without Aeroblast.
>>57155084>Johto BeastsThey're Legendary Hamsters
>>57155123Wrong, they're the Legendary Rascals
>>57155027I'm surprised hoho is that high. That thing looks gross
>>57155132Compelling argument, I shall submit it to the Board of Legendaries and we'll get back to you by January 5th, thank you.
>>57155087It has to because Sacred Fire is special in Gen 2 and doesn’t get the boost from curse that Lugia’s Aeroblast gets.Fast forward and Lugia doesn’t need Aeroblast to function and Ho-oh cannot work without Sacred Fire.
>>57154992Who had a movie built around them at the time?Well, there you go
lugia was always cooler
>>57155039>in the show for 10 seconds Ho-Oh inspired Ash to go on his pokemon journey.Seeing Ho-Oh taught Ash that the world was a big and wonderful place full of mysteries even Prof. Oak didn't know about.Ho-Oh set off the entire pokemon adventureHo-Oh is more important to the anime than Lugia ever was
>>57155492Ho-Oh "appeared" but wasn't actively shown, rendering this moot.
>>57155492Based King>>57155505Cringe
>>57155039>cool>dragon
>Gamefreak originally planned for only making Gold Version>Silver was just an after thought>The afterthought ends up outselling the original concept
>>57154992>>57154992>>57154992>back in the day>90s franchiseHere's the real answer you zoomershits.In the 90s and early 2000s, being GAY was completely unacceptable, and Ho-Oh was the RAINBOW bird....You're not fuckin' GAY, are you OP?...Anyway, with the rise of the absolutely abhorrent trannies, the gays have become honorary straights and Ho-Oh is predictably rising in popularity.
>>57155811op is an itoddler so.. probably is
>>57154992Just the sex tho
>>57154992>FVCKunderage faggot meme
>>57155492fucking autistic manchild talking about pokémon like he's still a kid fuck off jesus you're a nobody
>>57155505>>57155862Angry samefag
>>57155862Where do you think you are?
>>57155862Watch out, we got a badass over here
>>57155138Ho-oh is a cute birb
Ho-Oh looks cool when it's doing that circular pose with its wings.
>>57155803>>57155084People just like ambiguous monsters better than "animal + element". Have no idea why Shudo was bitching so much when his creation was received so well.>>57155028Kek.
>>57155862Embarrassing
get him
Who got a big hands fetish from Lugia?
>>57155865wrong
>>57156955Seething
>>57154992>I thought people preferred ho-oh?Lugia had an entire fucking movie
Because the box Pokemon that stands out more to little boys and looks "cooler" always sells mores.
>>57155492Doesn’t matter what ripples it made to the show, the fact is that it was an appearance that lasted a few seconds.No one is going to give a shit. Especially when the other bird got an entire movie for it
>>57154992He got a movie and Ho-Oh didn't look as cool since it was just a Phoenix
hooh looks lames as fuck ain't nobody want a pokemon that look like they auntie
>>57157067incorrect
Kids always pick the cooler box legendary. Sapphire would have sold more if Kyogre was showing it's fuckin scary teeth on the box.
>>57157074Ho Oh is better
>>57157091nah even if they made kyogre look slightly cooler ruby would have sold more regardlessred is a cooler color than blue kids are retarded they like the color red thats why the red power ranger is always the leader
>>57156546writing a short essay on the symbolism of Ho Oh in the episode of the fucking pokémon it first appeared on 100 years ago is extremely embarassing, yes
>>57157099LugiaNIGGERSseething
>>57155921>the kid named SILVER got Hooh the GOLDEN BIRD in masters>Ethan sometimes named GOLD, got Lugia, the SILVER monster in mastersAnd people thought that Red with Venusaur, and Green with Charizard was retarded
>Red>Gold>Sapphire>LeafGreen>Diamond>HeartGold>Black>White 2>Y>AlphaSapphire >Sun>Ultra Moon>Sword>VioletWhat's your list like anon?
>>57157121BlueCrystalSapphireLeafgreenDiamondHeartgoldBlackBlack 2YAlpha SapphireMoonUltra MoonSwordVioletJust going off of which of the first I played in each “set”
>>57154992Movie.Despite all the modern memery about Shudo's mommy issues and plot of the movie not really making a lot of sense, Pokemon Movie 2 was very well received when it was released. Meanwhile Ho-Oh appeared in anime once, in first season, as teaser at the end of first episode.https://youtu.be/ZqpXrDuLqE0 Also one of the most beautiful music pieces in history of Pokemon as a whole was probably relevant, what I fucking know.
>>57157121YellowGoldEmeraldFireRedPearlSoulSilverBlack 2YOmegaRubyUltraSunShieldDon't know yet
>>57154992It was pretty rare to find someone with a Gold cartridge back in the day. Everyone I knew had Red, Silver + Crystal. I think this switched up with HGSS, when it was clear that Gold was not only the name of the main, but that it was the 'canon' version. But yeah, for years, a lot of people assumed Silver was it.
>>57157121>Rojo>Silver>Sapphire>Fire Red>Pearl>Heart Gold>Black>Black 2>X>Alpha Sapphire>Sun>Ultra Moon>lmfaooooo>Violet
Wdym?All second versions usually mog
>>57155492To an older, more developed brain who understands that level of significance, sure.To a retarded toddler who has the memory of a goldfish, those 10 seconds were forgotten as soon as Togepi entered the picture, even more so when other GS Pokemon started appearing to directly promote the upcoming game. And then comes Lugia, getting an entire movie, full of screentime where it's also the hero of the movie, contrast to Mewtwo Strikes Back where the star was the villain.
It learns Future Sight at level 99. lol.
>>57157121>Silver>Ruby>Platinum>?>X>Omega Ruby>Sun>Ultra Moon>Sword>Scarlet
>>57157121If we're talking about my favorite of eachRed, Silver, Ruby, Leaf Green, Diamond, Soul Silver, White, Y, Omega Ruby, Sun, Ultra Sun, Sword, Violet, Brilliant DiamondOtherwise I've owned all of them including Emerald, Plat, up until X/Y, with the exception of Crystal.
>>57155492Soulful post
>>57154992How are you doing Sabor
>>57155028Good call skipping the rainbow turkey...that kid is different enough y'know?
>>57154992As a kid I was simple minded. My first was red version so afterwards I got every "red" version. Had I not been gifted silver I would have asked for gold.
>>57156433>Have no idea why Shudo was bitching so much when his creation was received so wellThe company went against his intended themes for Lugia. He was one of those artists that didn't give a shit about success and the integrity mattered more. So he drunk himself to death.
>>57155027>skarmory and kingdra not even on the listSuch shit taste
>>57159609Lugia would've been a beloved mon regardless of whether they were voiced by a woman or not.except the coomposting would've been supercharged but thats irrelevant
>>57155138hoho isn't even on the list retard
>>57155028>having a kid at 35Great way to make a /vp/ poster
>>57154992>I thought people preferred ho-oh?gay people maybe
>>57155028No boomer would choose silver over gold
>>57159706kek, true
>>57154992it had the better sprites
>>57154992>>57155027As I grew into an adult, I was SHOCKED to learn how popular Umbreon (and the other eeveelutions) is -- especially among guys?When I was a kid, eevee and its evolutions were for girls. Eevee was one of the stereotypical "cute" pokemon looking like a toy cat/dog, and it evolved further into larger cute cat/dog things. As such, it was seen as something for girls. But to my surprise, Umbreon is one of the most popular pokemon of all time, and the rest of the eeveelutions aren't far behind. Wtf happened?
>>57154992I like ho-oh more
>>57159634>except the coomposting would've been supercharged but thats irrelevantKnowing coomers, heavily doubt it would've made much difference
>>57154992Lugia was way more popular than Ho-Oh back then, had more prominence in other Pokemon mediaPeople saw Lugia as an epic dragonlike creature and Ho-Oh was just a big bird so not as interesting
>>57160802>People saw Lugia as an epic dragonlike creature and Ho-Oh as just a big birdthe root problem of big birbs being shafted in, well basically everything
>>57160202Seems like the problem is you.Eevee and its Evolutions debuted with each of their trainers all being male.I never heard anything like this. Eevee/Eeveelutions were pretty much loved around the board and everyone had their favorite.
>>57160877I guess it depends how fagged out (by 90s standards) your community was
>>57160890Eeveelutions are the single most popular evolutionary family in the entire franchise. They are wildly popular among both boys and girls and have been for decades. This didn’t “just happen”.Something is wrong with you.
>>57154992>thinking people like a bird weak to the flintstones for the extra time over a cool dragon
ho-oh is more important to the franchise as a mysterious golden bird ash sees in the sky during the first episode of the anime than as an actual pokemon
>>57154992i bought silver cuz it looked cooler and still does
>>57160202Umbreon was one of the few Pokemon which are naturally colored pitch-black (a color that appeals to boys), which combined with the brooding culture of the 2000s (which lingered from the mid-to-late 90s) made Umbreon which is also sleek and shiny (thanks to the gold rings and red eyes) an attractive choice; one that despite the eeveelution status looks kind of badass. It's also one of the only dark types you could actually use in the maingame.Then Pokemon Colosseum came along and forced everyone to use it, which instantly catapults it to the same level as a real Starter pokemon.It doesn't matter that it's a stallmon that is very challenging to use effectively. All the above factors functioned to cement its popularity with at least everyone within the age bracket of its first two gens.
>>57160890I do remember Eevee being for girls but Umbreon was also one of the easiest Dark pokemon to get and to young boys at the time Dark pokemon were cool. 1. They were new2. They were "Dark"3. They beat up on psychic pokemon which everyone knew were the strongest.
>>57154992Everyone who grew up realises Ho-Oh is clearEveryone who didn't and became a manchild incel thinks Lugia is better
Gee I wonder which one looks better and matches the theme of the region.
>>57162582both look like shit
>>57162582neither x2?
>>57155492Based
>>57162582What is the theme of Johto?
>>57164113A lotNew beginnings. Skies and Oceans. Crystal is the literally the middle ground between the two. Life and exploration.
>>57159609There isn't much reason for Lugia to be water-type either. It wasn't born in the water and only went there to retreat from its actual home that was destroyed by lightning.
Ho-oh is just Moltres 2.
>>57164445That is one of the most forced things I have ever read.When I hear Johto, I associate it with old burned down pagodas, and Ho-Oh fits fantastically, even though I am a hardcore Lugia and Silver fag and I don't like the turkey.