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What Would have been......
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Nemona remains pure, untainted by ash
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>>57173879
Liko and Roy fucking suck. I tried to like them, I really did. I'd even prefer Goh.
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>>57173879
>Keeping him in his JN outfit
>His expression isn't one filled with pure lust due to being in the presence of the one female who could fulfill him completely and satiate is downright endless desire for a good, hard, passionate, sweaty and very intimate battle
Soulless
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>>57173879
Thank God it didnt
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>>57173879
It would have been like 300 episodes of them just battling it out with every single 'mon they have. New 'mon, old 'mon, and all.

So it would have been great.
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Imagine Nemona sucking Ash's shota cock.
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>>57173879
This: >>57173901
And fuck off Ashfag
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>>57173879
Thank fucking GOD they didn't taint her with the presence of this fucking mongoloid. I'm so happy, thanks for the reminder OP. Good fucking riddance.
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>>57173879
I would like to see them in a stupid fight like Tauros vs P.Tauros, both bulls with their horns intertwined, but both trainers being so stubborn to try a different strategy.

While in the background Pikachu and Pawmo play around not giving a shit.
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>>57174092
Curiously, I've seen several mangas with that premise.
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>>57173974
Ash canonically gets aroused by vapid stacey bitches like Giselle. Nemona doesn't have that kind of pretentious swag.
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>>57174473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep3P6LIIP74

This is how Nemona would have to act to get an actual romantic reaction out of Ash in person.
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>>57174467
Why does this artist make his girls drool and tear up so much during sex?
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>>57173879
>What Would have been......
-Pikachu gets blasted with a virus that weakens it back to lv 1
-We're introduced to Ash's rival, an anime OC who is mean to his pokemon
-Ash and Pikachu get absolutely rekt, steal Nemona's bike, then beeline to the nearest Pokemon Center (Pikachu accidentally discharges a thunderbolt and fries it before they can give it back to her)
-dozens of bottle episodes where Ash & co help some character of the day become better friends with their shitmon
-Team Rocket tries to get in the way but ultimately blasts off in the end
-Ash loses the Paldea League to some twat they introduced at the start of the tournament arc

Such a gripping tale. Lost to the aether.
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>>57174467
Source?
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Holy Autisim
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>>57174500
Maybe it's his fetish, it's like wondering why Rocket Monkey draws so much NTR.

Or Double Deck female monsters, special emphasis on monsters, not your typical kawaii monster-girl
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>>57174467
Ashfags are not humans, especially those who consume hentai with Ash as MC
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>>57173908
Liko isn't even good cunny, that's how bad she is. The franchise known for having highly fuckable lolis, can't even have a starring character that is hot.
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>>57174589
Hentai? Get on my level
>M rated fanfiction
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>>57174542
>She doesn't give a shit if he has other girls, but she's the only Rival
Ok, that was funny and in character
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>>57174473
Anon the post was clearly an intentionally and jokingly lewd post about Ash's battle autism, poor kid has been retconned to be battlesexual and uninterested in women for ages now.
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>>57174520
Actually this likely wouldn't have happened since SM letting him win the league was a product of anime staff pushing back against Yuyama's status quo hyperfixation and he even ended JN as the World Champion. If a Paldea Ashnime happened I'd imagine given the tensions behind the scenes (if the Teraleak conversation scripts are to be believed) then he'd win the league in the end, though the journey to get there would be the usual meandering plots filled with inconsistent levels of plot armor, the only real difference would be LOTS of battletism between Ash and Nemona which would reignite the shipping wars of the 2000s and bring out the Mistyfags and Mayfags of yore to create a massive ashnime shipwar the likes of which could have only been dreamed of. Would have been pretty fun to watch. The endless shitflinging from the shipwars, I mean.
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>>57174542
>>57174691
Only a sick person would draw something like that.
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>>57174520
There's no way Nemona ends as a companion for Ash, Dawn had to be another contest girl for the same reason.
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>>57174781
Gay
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Ash self inserts are brain dead kek
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>>57174520
>steal Nemona's bike
you mean Nemona's Cyclizar
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>>57174830
I want to self insert as Nemona though
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>>57174861
Then you're braindead for wanting to fuck Ash
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>>57174520
This post reads like someone who hasn't engaged with the series as a whole in ages. Nigga they don't even got bikes in Paldea, fuck you think Cyclizars are for? Also the bike thing ended AAAAAAAGES ago.
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>>57174865
>Ash
>Ash
>Ash
I'm starting to think the anti-ashfags on this board are more deranged than the people who self insert as him and get all huffy and puffy when he doesn't act the way they want him to like a disobedient dog.
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Nemona is too good for Trash
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>>57173879
Good
Less Ash polluting peak the better
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>>57174871
>>57174894
>>57174902
It just keeps going lol
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>>57174871
Obsessed
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>>57174938
Seriously. Why devote so much energy to a glorified marketing tool?
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my headcanon is that the unlike every other region where trainers battle you by making eye contact, in paldea nemoa has buck broken every trainer in the region so when they see another one walk by they just look at their shoes and try to avoid making eye contact like they're trying to stay out of trouble in prison
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>>57174960
>Why devote so much energy to a glorified marketing tool?

That just means it works and they fell for it.
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>>57174871
>people who hate some retarded 10 year boy are more deranged than adult people who self-insert as a retarded 10 year old boy (except they usually headcanon him as a gigachad hypersexual)
Ashfag detected
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>>57174520
I think it would have worked as a 5-10 episode mini-arc, with Ash being part of Uva Academy, making his rivalry with Nemona more organic by being two champions in different schools, with Arven being the roommate and having a bad relationship at first.

The plot would focus on Area Zero and saving Arven's dog.
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>>57175039
>Ash ruining Arven's serious story
Fuck no. The Ashnime was way too silly and childish for this.
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>>57175039
What would be the team of Jameson IV the exchange boy from Galar and J.J. the girl from Unova?

I wonder if they would be part of my boi Clive's gang?
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>>57174092
cheeky latina
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No Penny and Ash at all in the thread?
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>>57175794
Nobody loves Penny
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>>57173908
>I'd even prefer Goh
nah, that's a you problem, goh fucking SUCK
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>>57174542
spoler
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>>57175839
Someone needs to make a version of this with Hassel and Penny
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>>57175839
based
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>>57175839
I love Penny
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>>57175744
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>>57174542
>Ash being able to please a woman
LMAO hahahHAhHAHahHAhHAhahAHahHAHAhahahHAHahAHAHAhHAhHAhAHahahahahAHAHAHaHAHahAHaha If there is something worse than the lesbian ship of Nemona and Juliana, it is this
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>>57173879
I hate them (nuAsh and Nemona) both, what we have is still better than this cancer.
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>>57173879
Better than Shitrizons
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they would have unironically been the perfect rivals she's kind of just a female version of him.
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>>57176213
That's the paradox, an unstoppable force and an immovable object are destined never to meet.
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>>57173879
A lot of people thought Ash and Hau would be a good combination and looked how that played out.

It all depends if the writers humour the idea.
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>>57176067
lol
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>>57175794
>two shit characters
Just as bad as Ash and Nemona
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>>57174528
#479723
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Why do so many people complain about "Ash self-inserters" when there are none on this board?
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>>57176826
>Why do people complain about faggots who developed a crab mentality?
>Why aren't they tolerating their presence after they've killed the Paldean Wind threads, being obnoxious while running in circles?
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>>57174473
OP showed happy-go-lucky "let's battle!" asspull world champion JN Ash who is a completely different character than the original Ash. There won't be any romance between Nemona and Ash for sure but they would make great rivals.
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>>57174658
Awful fucking taste
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>>57176826
Because they hate Ash
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>>57175840
ESL
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>>57176936
How does this relate to the fact that there is no one self-inserts as Ash?
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>>57176957
MPM episode 02 has proven that the writing staff could have brought back old Ash if they wanted too.
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TrAsh
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>>57174500
That's hot
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>>57178463
Fucking Kek!!!
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>>57178463
Ay Caramba!
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>>57173879
just imagine nemone losing her virginity to ash
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>>57176826
What about the currently homeless 3rd world guy that obsessed over Alain
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>>57178640
The question is who wins the green card?
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>>57178463
did she lose her dentures
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>>57178850
Mama Coco?
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>>57178463
This looks hilarious
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>>57178701
Actually praised Poketoon and got angry that /padt/ ignoring it.
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>>57179018
>Talks about himself in third person for damage control
Cringe, get a job
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>>57177580
But they didnt and never would have, the traits he displayed in that episode were a hollow immitation of OS Ash for an easy nostalgia tease before returning Ash to his Goku-like battle! battle! personality right afterwards. Means nothing.
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>>57179081
They already did.
At the end Ash's personality wasn't the problem, it was his interaction with all the characters that was the problem. If JN Ash interacted with people same way OS Ash did then old Ash would have returned sooner.

I guess the executive didn't allow old Ash to return after MPM 02 because they won't able to replace Ash with their wish fulfillment self insert if it was possible for old Ash to return.
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>>57179126
This just reads like conspiracy babbling. Either give names for the "executive" or consider your schizorant dismissed
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>>57177580
I miss when Ash was a smug bastard, but I don't miss that he was a sore loser, in that aspect SM and PM did a good job giving him a more carefree personality.
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>>57179126
>If JN Ash interacted with people same way OS Ash did then old Ash would have returned sooner.

The writers would have had to go well beyond JN with rewriting and retconning everything to account for Ash's OS personality which isnt possible at this point and therefore makes it unfeasible to return Ash to his original personality. Imagine in JN he returns to Alola with his original OS snarky argumentative attitude instead of the carefree friendly attitude he has now, everyone would hate him and lose all respect for their champion. The writers knew this and could give a hint of the old Ash without reverting his personality completely out of nowhere.
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Ash died after Diamond and Pearl, the character should have been thrown in the dumpster after that
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>>57174528
Look for Kousaka Jun - PKM Gals.
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>>57173879
Ash would just sweep her tho
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>>57179852
Jokes aside, what would be the level of his Champion Team?

Nemona in-universe is stronger than Kieran
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>>57173879
no one cares about ASSh and nigmona doe
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>>57178640
>Imagine
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>>57178463
Sauce?
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>>57175039
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>>57179852
She loved every minute
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>>57179949
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>>57180121
The artist is Kousaka Jun. The guy made a lot of masterpieces.
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>>57173879
Ashfags would ship Ash with a fucking paperclip if they could
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>>57179949
Ash in-universe is the strongest trainer in the world. Nemona is probably low-champion tier.
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>>57180508
Which makes it all the much more weird that they're all so pissmad the show actually paired him with someone.
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>>57178463
This is shit
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>>57179949
Well, as a minimum his Dragonite is level 55 and Gengar level 25

The rest is open to interpretation
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>>57180508
Like goku and narutofags
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Is nemona in the current anime?
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>>57180789
She is! She appears in episode 10, and shows up on a few occasions in the third arc.
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>>57180789
I would have loved an anime with Nemona, Arven, and Penny as the main characters.

No offense to Horizons fans, but I don't find it interesting to watch an original series with OCs in a world with already defined and more interesting stories, it feels like watching a fanfic.
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>>57178463
that file name
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>>57178746
Both
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If Genwun Ash & Nemona fused, this would be the result.
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>>57178640
Nice
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>>57174740
That's because he found his soulmate early, every other girl and woman cannot compare so why bother looking?
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>>57176067
The artist rectified this error in his/her following videos.
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Ash is a faggot
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>>57181547
Ash is asexual.
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>>57173879
https://youtu.be/D8s6CF0QOgY?si=DdSC-VTdmsx55vRY
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>>57179273
>Imagine in JN he returns to Alola with his original OS snarky argumentative attitude
Would work just fine and will actually fit perfectly with SM gangs. Lana is a freaking troll, Kiawe is too emotional, Sophocles is snarky, it was SM Ash waku waku personality that never matched with them.
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>>57181779
This sounds like complete and utter cancer. Why is he hitting the wrong notes? The slight squeak from trying hit to an octane too high for him is off-putting, the lyrics don't match the OP or him at all.

Christ, I guess I have to thank you for introducing another form of Ear cancer.
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>>57179283
Then how come XYfags are so glued to him? >>57180610
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>>57173879
>What Would have been...
Still wouldn't have been the absolute fucking KINO that was DP and XY.
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>>57181547
The one true canon ship in the entire Ashime
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>>57174758
Nah man it would bring out all the amour shippers because ash and nemona on paper have such good chemistry. That if these two were to actually interact with a component writer amour shippers would kill themselves
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>>57179949
There was an event in galar that had them all around the 80s this implies that this is the level of most of the masters 8 pokemom in the anime

https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Pok%C3%A9mon_Sword_and_Shield
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>>57182545
Well it's a balanced team (For Anime standards) with decent IVs, Lucario should have a Mega Stone, wait Dragonite is a GIRL!?
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>>57182545
During DP, a level 50 Ash's Pikachu was gifted, and during the 25th anniversary, a level 80 Ash's Pikachu was gifted with an Alola Champion Ribbon, so it's fair to think that PJ's Pikachu was at its peak at level 85-88.
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>>57182521
>ash and nemona on paper have such good chemistry
I imagine them like that episode where Spongebob and Sandy become obsessed with Karate and enter into combat anywhere and anytime.

Now as an adult I realize that it was an allegory for casual sex.
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>>57182869
>casual sex.
Ash and nemona would have competitive ranked sex with medals and all.
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>>57182144
Because the XY anime was a return to form after the disaster that was BW, you dumb newfag.
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>>57183010
XY series was still a disaster like BW series.
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>>57183023
I'm sure that's what reddit and twitter told you, but it's not what /vp/ thought back when XY was new you dumb newfag fuck.
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>>57183003
>Ash and nemona would have competitive ranked sex with medals and all.
oh fuck
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>>57182144
They're underage autists who weren't alive when Pokemania was a thing
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>>57182824
So in theory ashs alola team should also be in the 80s I don't fucking know how he got them to the eighties maybe he was constantly training the FUCK outta them but honestly that only makes sense for rowlet, lycanrock, and Incineroar
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>>57181547
Based
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>>57183031
>but it's not what /vp/ thought back when XY was new you dumb newfag
Practically every actual fans knew it was a disaster except for Amourshippers and Shonenfags.

Truthfully, if Serena stayed with Ash on SM/JN series while maintaining the same visual as XY series then those same people would referred JN/SM series as a real anime.
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>>57183271
Best Couple
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>>57183307
Didn't she friendzoned him?
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Why did Ash command his pet rat to commit murder over a theft threat?
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>>57183577
Because people from Pokémon World won't die from a little electric shock.
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>>57183577
He knew the numbers for a thundershock from a Naughty L20 Pikachu with no held item.
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>>57183003
>nemona
>competitive
>sex
Say goodbye to your pelvis
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>>57183569
Yes, and he was officially paired with Shauna, but shippertards don't understand logic. Same reason why they think game Serena and Calem have anything to do with anime Serena and Ash or why some random image of.Serena and Calem next to each other is some kind of "amour btfo lol" thing.
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>>57181900
SM Ash's silly, playful personality actually fit in well with theirs. He had enough similar traits to the Alola gang that allowed him to bond with each of them making him a well-rounded middle ground. Old Ash on the other hand was very insecure about himself and wouldn't have responded well to Lana, Kiawe's and Sophocles' antics which would have resulted in constant fights (like whenever Misty had a dig at Ash in the old days which resulted in arguments). Overall the Alola gang would hate the old Ash and it wouldn't have worked at all.
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>>57183307
Better than Ash x Serena
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>>57184256
Yeah, his relationship with Aether's siblings would be nuclear, he would have no patience with Lillie (Remember that boy from the Rayquaza film) and would end up using his fists with Gladion.
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>>57183003
And badges! Don't forget the badges!
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>>57183003
I remember two porn comics with this premise, one was from Fred Perry and the other was too obscure
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Ash is such a fag lmao
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>>57184176
>>57179975
>>57181432
where is this from?
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Kill all Ashfags, They are not even human!!
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>>57185206
It's a fanmade video whose uncensored version was deleted, it wasn't much but it was funny to see Pikachu's face while Nemona raped Ash and her panties flew away.
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>>57185265
what was the name?
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>>57185361
Thicc Nemona and Ash
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>>57183577
That's fine, it's the equivalent of a low-power taser, enough to intimidate, but not do any real damage.
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>>57176256
>an unstoppable force and an immovable object are destined never to meet
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Kill yourselves ashschizos
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>Two battle autists with electric rodents that don't like being in their balls
Yeah, it'd fit.
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>>57186895
I hadn't noticed that Nemona has the same problem as Ash, they are trainers who are far above the average level, so to even the tables (more or less) they use newly caught Pokemon.

It must be a headache for a writer to use a character who has already reached his/her peak and development.
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>>57187275
I already wrote this but if we follow the actual ashnime canon, Ash would just treat Nemona like a friend like he does with Korrina, Bea, etc.
He'd only start getting romantic if Nemona started doing the whole explicitly provocative Stacy Hot Bitch act like Giselle, while maintaining an aura of elegance and decency.

Nemona would NOT be able to pull that off convincingly or more like she'd never think of it in the first place
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This whole thread is sad.
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>>57187275
>It must be a headache for a writer to use a character who has already reached his/her peak and development
Only when they are trying to write a serious plot driven mature shonen anime. However its easy when they are writing an episodic slice of life kodomo anime.
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>>57187460
For me that works best, make the characters funny and their interaction genuine, leave all that shipping crap to the fandom.

Ash and Nemona are perfect as a comedic pair
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>>57184256
>SM Ash's silly, playful personality actually fit in well with theirs
No it did not , instead it made his personality superficial and made it hard for him to fit in with anybody. Thats why SM failed to recapture the charm of the OS series even when they brought back Misty and Brock.


>Old Ash on the other hand was very insecure about himself
That's something everybody feels and made Ash more realistic.

>wouldn't have responded well to Lana, Kiawe's and Sophocles' antics which would have resulted in constant fights

Good since fighting and arguing are natural part of life. Only wimps and weak willed people are afraid of fighting.

>Overall the Alola gang would hate the old Ash and it wouldn't have worked at all.
This feel something written by somebody who never had a friend before.
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>>57187492
Yeah, I hate seeing Nemona being ruined like this.
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>>57187665
Ruined? She already got ruined in the anime series.
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>>57187504
...How is an episodic slice of life anime supposed to involve giant lizards?
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>>57173879
Genuinely, if they had gone for a full homage to Stand By Me with a narrative pase like SM, this would have been perfect.

Ash travels through Paldea aimlessly, just for the pleasure of the trip, meeting his traveling companions who join together due to different circumstances, Nemona being assigned (self-assigned would be more correct) as a guide at Geeta's request, Arven in search of rare ingredients, and Penny as punishment by Superintendent Clavell, the different touch would be the introspection of the characters during the journey, Nemona's escapism through battles, Arven's family relationship, and the reason for Penny's rebellion, and of course a big part of the charm would be seeing their personalities clash unlike the Alola gang who were already a united group.

There would be changes for this version such as making each one belong to a different school, which would explain their enmity, Nemona from Naranja Academy, Arven from Uva Academy, and as an exchange from Galar, Penny with an original school, Apple Academy. Also giving it a different focus, Nemona being class president being stricter with the rules, Arven being a treasure hunter prefers field trials and doesn't mind breaking rules, and Penny being a rebel gets involved in underground races.

A big change to add would be the inclusion of Professors Sada and Turo, as well as Peony and Peonia, with a strong emphasis on the contrast between neglectful parents (Arven), overprotective parents (Penny), and absent parents (Nemona).
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>>57187803
This reads like ass unironically.
Bloated schoolshit, laying too heavily into the characters rather than the settings, and stupid unrelated shit like:
>gets involved in underground races
That's just gimmick creeping rather than utilizing Penny's narrative.

Fucking hell, everytime you faggots try to take a shot at a what-if scenario, it's either high-school anime uninspired slop overloaded with happenings or just stuffing shit into it that flatout that doesn't correlate with the region's tone or their characters.
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>>57179852
If the competition is physical, take it for granted, Ash can climb mountains, trees, swim in the open sea, carry twice his weight while running, and Nemona has trouble climbing stairs without losing her breath.
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>>57187803
This image alone sickens me
I'm not even gonna read all that
Please keep that retarded kid away from my precious Paldea friends, thanks
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>>57187826
What are you talking about? The region is perfect for having a subplot around racing, just look at their "Poke centers", the fucking Team Star has modified Revavroom and its low members use Cyclizar at all times.

And a 1:1 adaptation doesn't work, that's why it's an adaptation, as long as it's not too intrusive you can add new elements, just look at the Mario Bros movie, the original Kong Kingdom didn't focus on minikarts, but it was a great addition and fan service.
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>>57187750
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AqoLBOMOZBs&pp=ygUPZG9yYWVtb24gZHJhZ29u

Like this.
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>>57187875
If it was perfect then it would've been a thing. But then it would bring up the room problem. And Team star was a satirical metaphor with rowdy/punks.
>just look at the Mario Bros movie
You have two decades of Pokemon material and you choose to take examples from something that is not Pokemon and then ask "What are you talking about?" like a clueless retard.

If you can't see how fucking bloated your suggestion is or how by spreading it so thin causes an overload of neglected set-dressing then idk what to tell you. Stick to the fanfic thread instead of blindly vomiting every single idea together without looking twice at it.
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>>57187888
NTA, but if this thread bothers you so much, why do you keep responding? Just block it, instead you're just giving away free bumps.
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>>57187895
>NOO, don't reply to my post unless you're agreeing with me
Where the fuck do you think you are? I ain't gonna provide you with a hugbox. If you make a incoherent post then I'll address it as one.
>Free bumps
>Not knowing about options
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>>57187849
Nope
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>>57187931
Well fuck you then, I'm glad your shitty fanfic isn't real and will never be real
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>>57187931
Ash is TrAsh
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>>57188090
team rocket ash
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>>57188115
Jessie and Ash should have had sex at least once
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>>57188126
Jessie should have peg the shit out Assh at least once
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>>57187931
That filthy Kantonian will ruin that perfect sandwich with his stinky osoma
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>>57188115
First, fucking ant pic

Second, damn Jessie those hips save lives and destroy pelvises
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>>57188126
Ash is too much of a faggot, even James fucks her
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>>57187837
In terms of stamina, only Korrina and Iris would be on par with Ash,...and Bea would wipe the floor with him.
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>>57174902
/thread
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>>57187931
Ok I admit that Arven and Ash shenanigans would have been entertaining to watch
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>>57187803
Too complicated, keep it simple, zero romance, zero drama, just 4 dorks living silly adventures in Paldea.
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>>57187837
that's a sexy mona
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Ash is dead and retired kek
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>>57189174
Ash and Penny's interaction would have been fun to watch as well.
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>>57189174
He would've completely ruined Arven's serious story.
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>>57190009
The current anime ruined the Paldea plot like Journeys did with Galar. At this point I'd prefer a mini series
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>>57190032
>Constantly deflects to the ongoing anime as if it's an argument
Holy fuck you're insecure as shit.
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>>57190044
I said that both animes are shit, the only insecure one here is you
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>>57190053
>No u
Lol
>Animes
Lmao
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>>57189940
>Impulsive idiot meets sarcastic NEET with no filters
Intrigued
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>>57190032
It barely touched the game's story at all, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>57190067
>Impulsive idiot meets sarcastic NEET with no filters
This already happened, with Nemona
Hell it applies to Arven as well
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>>57173879
Chloe: Not in my watch!
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>>57187651
>No it did not , instead it made his personality superficial and made it hard for him to fit in with anybody. Thats why SM failed to recapture the charm of the OS series even when they brought back Misty and Brock.
Nope that's what it work. Old Ash arguing with everyone would have been annoying af in a relaxing place like Alola.
>That's something everybody feels and made Ash more realistic.
Agreed.
>Good since fighting and arguing are natural part of life. Only wimps and weak willed people are afraid of fighting.
Not all the time, touch grass
>This feel something written by somebody who never had a friend before.
"Feelings" and insults = no real argument. I accept your concession.
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>>57190422
>Old Ash arguing with everyone would have been annoying af in a relaxing place like Alola.
Nope, it would have worked just fine and made SM series as charming as the OS series.

>Not all the time
Original Ash didn't argue with everybody all the time ether, he was rather moody and had an attitude.
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>>57190067
> Ash : Those are some strong pokemon, I am so excited to battle them.
> Penny : I'm glad that you are on our side but this attitude of yours is still annoying.
We got robbed.
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>>57190448
Shut up Penny!
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>>57189805
Rest in Piss Assh
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>>57175039
I don't understand Ash-self-inserters: They claimed SM was shit, JN was shit, Mesaze was shit, but they want Ash in Horizons doing SM things (going to school) and JN things (fighting and having a male partner)
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>>57191626
>They claimed SM was shit, JN was shit, Mesaze was shit
Maybe because they are not self inserts. They just wants a genuinely good series with Ash travelling with lovable companions with good battles like DP series that wasn't ruined by gimmicks.

FYI: MPM was several times better than Horizon and could have go on for many years. Its only flaw is that this series was promoted as Ash's epilogue so people were expecting some sort of conclusion which the series didn't provide.
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>Talks about himself in third person
>Continues to let Horizons live rent-free in his head
Lol
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>>57191681
I hated the journey through Sinnoh, the formula was already exhausted by that time, but I really enjoyed Ash and Paul's rivalry and Dawn's growth arc, honestly and objectively I think it was the best season.

Now personally my favorite season was SM, it's not a good series, but I liked the relaxed tone and the characters who finally felt like children having fun, I think the franchise has lost some of that innocent charm. And the finale is just perfect, I wouldn't have complained if the series ended here.
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>>57191626
Ash self inserts are retarded, it's not surprising
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>>57191704
>>57191704
Lets make a list about everything that could have happened if Ash joined RVT --
> Less reliance on Friede because Ash is experienced to work with Liko, Roy and Dot to solve their own problems while Friede simply guide them like Professor Kukui.
> Team Rocket Trio consistently will try to steal Pikachu & Terapagos therefore allowing Liko, Roy and Dot to gain experience battling them.
> Amethio developing an one sided rivalry with Ash after losing to his Pikachu instead of an adult side character.
> Actual Rivalry between Ash and Nemona as champion.
> Ash and Dot interacting like Nemona and Penny.
> Ash battling each of the ancient heroes and defeating them to make them join RVT as substitute for gym battle.
> Ash catching Black Rayquaza being an actual possibility since he is a Champion now instead of a complete newbie.
> Ash taking on Champion assessment test and defeat Geeta to get her permission to enter Area Zero.
> Ash taking on Titan pokemon to help Arven.
> Shipping Ash with Sango, Nemona, Mela and Lacey.
> Fun dynamic between Ash and Carmine.
> Ash snapping Kieran out of his edgy period.
> Spinel develop obsession with Ash after he outsmarted him with his unorthodox idea that went beyond his calculations.
> Ash vs Gibeon for final showdown.

Did I miss something?
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>>57191833
>I hated the journey through Sinnoh
Thank you for confirming you to have a bad taste.
>but I liked the relaxed tone and the characters who finally felt like children having fun

Buddy, you really don't know actual children. They has no off switch which makes them too honest which leads to them being more mean than actual adult.
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>>57191889
>Fun dynamic between Ash and Carmine.
Change that to genuine friendship between Ash and Kieran to be broken with the entrance of Ogerpon. Carmine would be perfect to interact with Brock
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>>57191916
As I said in my post, objectively DP is the best season, that doesn't mean I love every single thing about it.
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>>57191889
This just comes off as a laundry list, extremely unoriginal, lazily copy pasted from earlier seasons and comes off as if it's written by someone with a crab mentality. Nothing of value is lost seeing this.
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>>57192036
I agree with you and honestly, that anon really comes across as someone with insecure taste without fully reading posts.
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Ash should have been retired after DP
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>>57191889
Just for the pleasure of seeing the TR again I might watch this version.
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DP was boring but it had a better script, characters that weren't cardboard or one-dimensional like Paul
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57173879
DP is not a good series if you think objectively that SM has a better script, characters are not so cartoonish nor do they fall in form
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>>57191889
Ok... where are Liko and Roy in all this?
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>>57173879
Nemona would be fucking him before he got his fifth badge.
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>>57175839
I love Penny but she needs a bath. I can smell her from the Nintendo Switch
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>>57180830
YEah that's my biggest issue with New Horizons. Scarlet and Violet, for the first time ever, had a good story and they decided to ignore it for the anime.
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>>57180830
>No offense to Horizons fans, but I don't find it interesting to watch an original series with OCs in a world with already defined and more interesting stories, it feels like watching a fanfic.

Agreed, a very boring fanfic. Struggling to stay interesting with the low-stakes, wgaf horseshit they keep wheeling out in the anime when SV did a much better job with the AI Professor, Paradoxes etc.
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>>57192289
I already mentioned them
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>>57191626
>They claimed SM was shit, JN was shit, Mesaze was shit
No, Ash self inserters worship those series because their self insert won in them. These people don't care about quality, they just want to see Ash win everything.
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>>57192485
Yeah with her strap on
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>>57191889
Boring ass cookie cutter slop just like 90% of the Ashnime
How fucking autistic do you have to be to want this, it's just the same formula over and over again Jesus fucking Christ

I'm so fucking happy that Ash is gone considering that his fans seriously want soulless slop like this
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>>57192506
>"But my dad says I'm cool"
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>>57180830
>this
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>>57192485
It could be sooner if she worked on her cardio.
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>>57173879
>>57192485
Basado
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Thank God Ash is gone
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>>57192521
Yeah but what kind of role would Liko and Roy have at the end? I mean they are the protagonists, what kind of important role you have for them in your fanfic?
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>>57173879
*What Could have been......
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>>57191889
>Shipping Ash with Sango
She would eat him alive
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>parroting for decades that ash need to be replaced
>they finally replace Ash and nobody literally nobody gives a shit about the anime anymore
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>>57192969
It would never work she is too tall
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>>57193674
He would have to use a stool just to kiss her
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>>57193244
Granted, no one really gave a shit anymore about the anime even with Ash for awhile now.
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>>57191889
>Fun dynamic between Ash and Carmine.
Nemobros...
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>>57192904
kek
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>>57192485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep3P6LIIP74

Ash would never care about Nemona romantically unless she specifically went out of her way to reenact the whole Giselle's "Hot Stacey Bitch" girl persona.
I mean like if you actually go by how the show itself shows us Ash's behaviour.

Can you imagine Nemona actually behaving like that out of her own will?
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>>57192518
Horizon screwed itself by handing Terapagos to Liko. What is even the point of watching this when Liko could just Terastalize Terapagos to its Steller form and defeat everybody front of her? Since Terapagos is the source of Terastalization itself so she can Terastalize it anywhere with a Tera Orb that she will never have to recharge. What did Liko even did to get Terapagos? Freaking NOTHING, she just min min about how she and her ancestors are special & the only important thing that matters on Pokemon World.
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>>57193000
Liko's role probably be like the game Lillie. The story of Gen VI game was mainly about Lillie and her struggles to overcome her past trauma and stand up to her abusive mother. Despite this, she doesn't do much in the game as the Protagonist takes on all the enemy fronts of her.

I don't think Roy is needed if Ash is in the RVT. Since his basically behave like SM Ash so their personality will overlap unless Ash goes back to being the moody kid with an attitude like OS Ash.
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>>57194321
>What is even the point of watching this when Liko could just Terastalize Terapagos to its Steller form and defeat everybody front of her?
She literally can't do that cause her Terapagos is weakened. Why are you even complaining if you clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about you fucking dumbass?
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>>57182521
>ash and nemona on paper have such good chemistry
I'm starting to see the charm of this ship.
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>>57194426
Ashfags are mentally ill, please understand.
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>>57194426
All she needs is to throw a freaking Tera Orb

>Why are you even complaining
"Oh Why are you complaining about a freaking newbie getting a freaking Third Legendary Pokémon handed to her in name of her bloodline?"
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>>57194664
Ash's haters are more mentally ill than his fans.
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>>57194550
Ash seems almost as tanned as Nemona.
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>>57194735
No, her Terapagos is weakened. It can't even go into battle mode.
Also same reason why Ash kept being "le speshul epic chosen one" in like 20 fucking movies - because you don't want a boring literally who as a protag.
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>>57194776
>It can't even go into battle mode.
It already went into Battle mode and opening showed it go into battle mode again on this arc.

>Also same reason why Ash kept being "le speshul epic chosen one" in like 20 fucking movies -
I don't remember Ash getting freaking Lugia handed to him, the whole "Choose one" plot exclusive to dub and not in the original Japanese version.

>because you don't want a boring literally who as a protag.
Liko already is a boring literally-who protagonist even after getting Terapagos handed to her. No drive, no motivation, no clear goal, no depth, no personality, no interesting dynamics with other characters, no interesting dynamics with her own pokémon for over 70 episodes. Her entire character revolve around bragging about her ancestors and bloodline. Liko is the 2nd worst Anipoke protagonist after Alain , a beta boring "Literally-me" protagonist that you see on boring harem anime like Omamori Himari and Dragon Crisis.
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>>57173879
>Ash
Ew. So glad he's gone forever
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>>57194736
Not even close KEK
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>>57194822
>Waaah waaah Liko is too special!
>Waaah waaah Liko is a boring literally who!
Go jerk off to Ash porn you retard
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>>57194776
ESLkun is so asshurt over the idea of a trainer that is not his SI owning anything powerful without two decades of blueballing to the point where he forgots that the Turtle can't stay in Battle form after a firing off a single move atm. That retard is throwing a tantrum over a Pokemon that can't even defend itself lmao
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>>57194901
If you bother to read my previous posts then you would have known that I was against Ash catching any legendary because I wanted him to win the league without relying on legendary pokemon.

Liko is just garbage protagonist who can't take steps without how her special ancestors make her special.
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>>57195128
Your posts are as inconsistent as your English, constantly switching and irrelevant babbling.
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i'm not an ash fan by any means but you know what fuck it i would've enjoyed the two battle autists meeting
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>>57195162
Remember Mitsumi and Cynthia from DP manga? That's how Ash and Nemona's rivalry could work.
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>>57195612
>Remember two female trainers who grew under different circumstances?
>Let's just copy this and shove it onto other characters, it will totally work
You Ashsperms are as uncreative as a cardboard.
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>>57174520
>Pikachu gets blasted with a virus that weakens it back to lv 1

I would stop watching right here
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>>57193674
>>57193679
I'm so mad I missed out on teenage romance bros
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>>57193679
>she is too tall
That's hot!
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>>57174520
Based bait bro
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> Dot : OC version of Penny
> Ash : OC version of Nemona
Where is the OC version of Arven?
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>>57192969
This would be cute if it wasn't ai slop
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>>57195778
Dowsnt exist because he's perfect already
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>>57192969
A wedding in Orre? It is said to be beautiful at this time of year
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>>57194550
>YFW Double Battles Season Begins
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>>57196418
>Doubles
>Not Multi
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>>57195751
An Orrean, a Galarian, a Paldean, and a Kantonian walk into a bar.
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>>57195612
I've never read that version, is it with the green-haired "Dawn"? How did they adapt that version?
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>>57195741
Stay strong anon, adult romance isn't as intense, but it's more stable.
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>>57197774
>Milfmona
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>>57197989
>milf
>just makes her look more like B2W2 Bianca
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>>57197989
I don't know if I'm being racist, but she looks like Luz Noceda's mom
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>>57192969
I admit, those dorks look cute together.
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>>57195751
>>57196192
Nemona is not Paldean?
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>>57197989
Needs 50% more hip
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>>57196192
>Tamato
tasty
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>>57197989
Nah, an adult Nemona should be like Dahlia
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Nemona is way too good for Assh
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>>57199076
That makes it even better
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>>57198215
Nope, her league club dialog reveals that she moved to Paldea when she was 7 years old.
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>>57199598
So is she an Unovan?
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>>57200208
We don't know.
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>>57200208
The orre is a meme because her name is an endemic flower that grows in that area, but due to her Spanish in Masters ex, and that she met Lacey when they were both little, everything points to a North poke-American girl with Latina ancestry.
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>>57199419
NuAsh looks so shit Holy kek
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>>57187388
>>57199419
>>57199550
With that cap they look like a Latino couple supporting Gumshoos Trump.
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>>57201047
Ironically, Ash is a foreigner who gained residency in Alola and is now the champion of the region.
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>Meanwhile in bizarro /vp/
Remember that filler character with the orange Pikachu in the Acapulco episode? What happened to that girl?
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>>57197238
Their battle in the league nearly destroyed the stadium.



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