Why did they make such an easy game more easy?
>>57182747Why do you beat the same dead horse instead of talking about something that hasn't been discussed to death already?
>>57182747since torchic is fire it's best to choose froake and bulbasaur right?perfect trio
>>57182747kek, mad at >>57182685 eh?
>>57182747>POKEMON IN POKEMON GAME BAD
>>57182747Why is Bulbasaur in a different art style
Because it's a game for children and the purpose is to catch/collect'em all. The only complaint I have with this is they give you them so early and lets be real, people dumped the Gen 6 starters in favor of the Gen 1 ones.
>>57182873Every playthrough I've seen has usually kept both, unless you really REALLY like the Kanto starter that matches the type of the Kalos starter you already picked.
>>57182763>POKEMON TAKING THE SPOTLIGHT FROM THE NEWER POKEMON BADGlad we agree.
>>57182876Those are just playthroughs though, I imagine the average player probably dumped them, but fair point since it's more coverage. Either way, I feel like they should have been given a bit later than what they were.
>>57182763But nuGen defenders said the dex cut was good
>>57182747imagine actually wanting to play anything after gen 3, the style of the mons is just disgusting. At the overloaded detail, weird shapes and how forgettable they all are.
>>57182887>tfw picked Bulbasaur as a kid>tfw would pick Bulbasaur again if I replied Red/Blue
>>57182887>following a series you've hated for 15 yearsBased retard
>>57182887Charizard is my favorite, but sometimes I pick the others depending on how the sprites look. I used a Venusaur for a Gen 1 playthrough and a Blastoise for a Gen 3 playthrough.
>>57182747>more easy
>>57182887Charmander is the worst Kanto starter
>>57183093>>57183103Bulbasaur is the thinking man's choice. Charmander is badass but if you played Red, then Arcanine is objectively better as a fire type. There is just no reason to pick squirtle.>>57183098Gens 1 and 2 were epic, gen 3 was ok. After that it became trash.
>>57183111I'm not talking grammatical correct on fucking 4chan tard
>>57183192>objectivefag>following a series that's been trash for 20 yearsYou're very smart.
>>57183221You act like you're choosing to write like a retard.
>>57182747I thought more options meant more good?
>>57183237options suddenly become bad when it makes gen 6 look good
>>57182747lol
>>57183323You didn't think that the starter tutorial needed an entire gym as well?
>>57183337>as wellWas there something preceding it? The rival battles are just Tackle fests that don't teach you anything.
>>57182878But Mega Evolution are new Pokemon. The franchise officially considers them to be new Pokemon, same as regional variants and other forms such as Deoxys' transformations.
>>57183344Sorry, I forgot that it goes straight from first rival battle to the first gym with nothing in between.
>>57183353Refresh my memory, I don't recall anything other than more normal-types along the way
>>57183353I know you're trying to be cute, but it's also not wrong.You literally do not have any exposure to how the type chart actually works until you battle Cheren at the Striaton Trainer's School and his starter proceeds to mog yours with its super effective move, because every wild Pokemon and NPC Pokemon prior, aside from Bianca's Route 2 battle, is either a normal type or Purrloin, a dark type who might as well just be another normal type because there's no moves that interact with it differently that early in the game.
>>57183374>bw defender hasn't played the gamesClassic.
>>57183350If it breaks species clause it's not a separate Pokémon
>>57183386Game mechanic semantics. The franchise still considers them separate Pokemon, as Masuda said back during SWSH that there were already over 1000 Pokemon when counting those variants and forms, several years before Gholdengo claimed NatDex #1000.
>>57183383Show me the grass, fire, and water Pokémon you battled between the first rival battles and the first gym, please.
>>57183400Can you show me the exact quote? Pretty sure he was talking about individual models, not the number of Pokémon species.
>>57183404You battle Bianca on route 2, retard. Or people that have played the games did, I doubt you actually have.
>>57183410Great, that teaches you one matchup. What about the other two?
>>57183417You mean the entire first gym? Are you actually retarded?
>>57183423The first gym is what completes the lesson, you're arguing that the gym doesn't add anything new when it does. For an Oshawott user, as an example: >Bianca Round 2 teaches the player that Water beats Fire>Cheren Round 2 teaches the player that Grass beats Water>Cilan encourages the player to learn that Fire beats Grass using the Pansear they just obtained
>>57183444You couldn't have explained my original point better, thank you. All of that is extra tutorials that are there for retards and to make an easy game even easier.
>>57183459There is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching the player a game's mechanics upfront. The entire point of the grass/fire/water triangle is that it's the quickest to learn, so it should be demonstrated right at the start. Not like RBY which gives you your first non-rival grass battle in Mt. Moon, your first fire battle on the St. Anne, and your first water battle in Cerulean Gym.
>>57182755That's what I did.Then I didn't use Bulbasaur
>>57183383Sounds like you haven't played the game.
>>57183497... That's not even the right game
>>57183323Don’t forget if you had the 3DS you could also get level 5 therian genies at the start of the game, with your OT. If you owned any DS titles you could get level 5 DPPt/HGSS legendaries with your OT as well. BW2 literally had players able to start with Tornadus/Thundurus/Landorus/Genesect/Lugia/Ho-oh/Dialga/Palkia/Giratina before leaving the first town.
>Take Chespin>Flip a coin twice and choose Charmander, immediately box it>Didn't play during the Torchic giveaway>Fill my party normally>Korrina asks me to take her spare mutt>Decline and leave it on the tower>Go on my merry way>Get given a Lapras later>Immediately box itI~don't~take~charity~shitmons~!
>>57183517I know, I just like posting random unrelated images
>>57183535Pure autism at work.
>>57183548Nope, I will not let the game choose my team for me. I'm the player, I make the decisions.
>>57183478>There is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching the player a game's mechanics upfrontNo one said or implied this. The problem is the game treating the players like retards and forcing it on us 3 times. Also, it being a triangle means it doesn't need to be taught three times. That's the point of triangles like this in video games.
>>57183192>fire typeIt doesn’t matter because of how dogshit fire was in Gen 1. Squirtle gets surf and blizzard and Bulbasaur is a crit machine. Each of the starters is supposed to specialize in a stat, but Bulbasaur ends up doing crits better than the supposed speedster Charmander.
>>57182887>being such a faggot you follow something you hate for yearsYou're the reason Pokemon gets away with being shit.
>>57183560If there are three matchups and the player only learns one, that's a bad tutorial.
>>57183562Fire Spin cheese from base 100 speed is pretty nice though
>>57183599There are like 20 types and the game teaches you how 3 interact with each other multiple times. It's simultaneously too long and useless and I never realized until you told me.
>>57182751autism
>>57182747Pokemon was always easy. There was only some difficulty because of the shitty movepool back then.
>>57183695always easy doesn't mean that all the games share the same difficulty
>>57182747They seriously weren't confident in Fennekin after Tepig failed. Not did they gave you the option to choose Charmander and Torchic, but they gave them megas and even gave you a early game bird that evolves into a fire type.
>>57183350How do I use Mega Charizard X in SV?
>>57183705Actually, that’s precisely what it means.
>>57183695>There was only some difficulty because of the shitty movepool back then.Sounds like you're just bad, but cope however you need to.
>>57183921You don't, because it's not a Pokemon they want you to use in SV, similar to species such as Shedinja.However, you'll likely be able to use Mega Charizard X in Legends Z-A.
>>57184364But I don't want to use Mega Charizard X in Legends Z-A. I want to use it in SV.
>>57183718is X and Y the earliest you can get fire types that aren't your starter cause you get both fletchling and litleo so with fennekin, Charmander, fletchinder, torchic and litleo you can make an almost all fire type team before you get to the second gym
>>57183948Kirby is always easy too, but there's a fucking dramatic difference between your average Epic Yarn playthrough and basically every True Arena. Hell, I can immediately tell you that XY is easier than every previous Pokemon game because the hardest post-game content can be easily mashed through (man the Battle Maison is fucking terrible completely accidentally).
>>57182747Don't forget the free Lucario!
>>57184413Too fucking bad, then.
>>57182747Damn the Gen 6 starters sucked that much huh kek
>>57184468Thanks for admitting it's a form and a gimmick, not a species.
>>57184505By your logic, all Pokemon that aren't guaranteed perfect attendance such as base Charizard, Pikachu, Eevee, Psyduck and Magnemite are also gimmicks who don't actually count as species, and that we actually have less than 100 species of Pokemon.
>>57184515>we actually have less than 100 species of Pokemon.God if only. So many of these guys are shit designwise and in battle.
>>57184515>By your logicWhat's your interpretation of my logic? I never said "dexcuttable = gimmick/form" like you seem to have thought I meant.
>>57182747They saw /vp/ whining about how ugly the gen 5 starters were so they decided to just give you the older starters since you're probably gonna box the current gen starters anyway
>>57182747Throw in a Talonflame and I really feel bad for how the Kalos starters, especially the Delphoc line, got absolutely treated terribly. And then there's the Mega situation. Kanto AND Hoenn got Megas over them, with DOUBLES going to the fire one yet again. man I really feel bad for Fennekin line fans.
>>57184450>Hell, I can immediately tell you that XY is easier than every previous Pokemon game because you’re terrible at the games?
>>57182755I went with Chespin and Squirtle and boxed Torchic.
>>57183323>>57183337>>57183353To be fair having the first gym change its type based on your starter was a great idea.The execution, on the other hand, was a load of crap. I mean, a Lillipup? And every trainer there uses Normal-type Pokemon.
>>57184531You consider Mega Charizard X to be "not a real species, just a gimmick" because it was dexcut, despite GameFreak internally considering forms and variants to be species.Thus, if a Pokemon does not have perfect attendance that it's NEVER dexcut, it never counted as a real Pokemon, just a "gimmick".
>>57182747The answer lies with the previous GenIt flopped hardGen 5 was a sad sloppy slow slug of a game that they got in trouble for making a california lefty PETA story.I really like how Gen6 lets you breeze through the story so you can just start playing Online by at least 4 dayseverything about gen 6 was fastOnline battling Breeding/Egg hatchingWonder tradeIV/EVsleveling upeverything about this was to setup a faster online competitive scene
>>57184948this never happened
>>57184953also doesn't sound fun. why would you buy an RPG to just breeze through it? I'd rather get my money's worth with a game that cost 50 bucks
>>57184948HGSS flopped much more
>>57185452cause online stuff is more funand not waiting for days just to hatch an egg
>>57185456HGSS was intend to flop so that's not a surprise
>>57184948>i really like how gen 6 was so rushed that the only "content" it had was onlineftfy
>>57185549trainer customization was online?
>>57185534>cause online stuff is more funit really isn't, now of course that is subjective and all, but the story and content are always there, online is temporary, and even with fanmade servers, very few people still play older gens online these days
>>57185561>it really isn't,please tell the class how clicking A two times against youngster tommy and his two shitmons is more fun than fighting actual challenging opponents.
>>57184482yeah
>>57185565ok, so let's say i want to play some gen 5 or 6 online in 2025, even if, in theory, that's possible, in practice the servers are always empty. I didn't mean to say that online wasn't cool, just that it's a temporary thing, and imo an RPG shouldn't rely mostly on online features
>>57182747What if you did something crazy like leave the free Kanto starter and Torchic in the box and used something else?
>>57185581ok, so let's say i want to play some gen 5 or 6 campaign in 2025, they're still filled with shitty gameplay that involves doing nothing sweeping youngster tommy and his two shitmons
>>57184631Based and same
>>57185608not that different from the gen 6 metagame where you're probably gonna be fighting the same pokemon over and over
>>57185630you don't play the game
The DS era flopped so the 3DS could thrive
>>57185660thats why she has lower sales then the ds games doe ?
>57185662>she
>>57185636you play competitive pokemon, you don't play the game.
>>57182755>not picking Fennekin and Charmander AND getting the Torchic
>>57182747>I choose Fennekin, Charmander, get Torchic, and the first Pokémon i catch is Fletchling. https://youtube.com/watch?v=0jgrCKhxE1s&pp=ygUeU29uZyBvZiBmbGFtZXMgaW1wb3NzaWJsZSBnYW1l
>>57182747I love XY
>>57184450>XY is easier than every previous Pokemon gameHow bad and stupid are you? If you think any pokemon game is harder than another you might be retarded.
>>57187327no anon you don't understand I'm totally not a retard for whining about the 2nd grade math test being easier because the teacher gave me a calculator!!
>>57187333You're a retarded fag too, don't worry.
>>57187333>There was only some difficulty because of the shitty movepool back then.lol retard
>>57184860But again, I never said that, as outlined in the post you responded to.
>>57184948I hope they make more games like these i dont want to slug through the story like Gen 5
>>57187327>If you don't think items = no items and 3 = 4 you're retardedgotcha
>>57182747You're telling me I can get this Torchic and all I need is a time machine to go back a decade? WAOW!
>>57189091https://projectpokemon.org/home/files/category/34-english/
>>57184948>I really like how Gen6 lets you breeze through the story so you can just start playing Online by at least 4 daysSo how do I play online in 2025?
>>57189137I know I can get it using a cheat device too. But if I'm cheating, why would I stop at a level 5 Torchic when I could get a level 100 Mewtwo that has my ID so it will obey me with no badges?
>>57184529Because a 4chan fag like you said it, yeah. Fucking retard.
Campaign is only the tutorial, real game starts after that like tournament play and shiny livingdex.
>>57189257Dumb ESL
>>57189293We don't sign our posts here.
>>57188883>this is supposed to show that unova is harderBrowns lmao
>>57188878It's story wasn't that bad. Far better than anything before it
>>57189791It's a very specific example. There's plenty more. Ask about a comparison.
