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>Ignoring Team Plasma, don't you know that would be a terrible thing for us Gym Leaders to do?
Why are other regions gym leaders such lazy asshole in the face of a potential apocalypse
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>>57184537
Because Unova's were written much better, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a shitposter who pretends to care about whoever the fuck "Grant" or "Gordy" are.
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Sex with Elesa
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>>57184537
Unova has his flaws but the story isn't one of them, if anything it's his greatest strength, but pokemon fans aren't ready for that conversation
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>>57184537
Aren't like half of KANTO's gym leaders related to Team Rocket?
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>>57184557
That's only in the manga tho
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>>57184537
Because Unova is Game Freaks Magnum Opus
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>>57184544
>written
They don't have writing either.
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>>57184608
They do?
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>>57184537
Why should the gym leaders be the ones to stop these evil organizations? Why don't the local police or even the International Police have any decent trainers aside from Anabel who is only part of them because she got amnesia and isekai'd. I seriously hope no one in the Pokemon world actually has to pay taxes for these retards.
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>So you want to join Team Rocket? *claps* LADIES this young man fancies himself a Rocketeer. Now lemme tell ya kid, it ain't easy pleasing these women.
Indeed, they are all size queens. *drops your pants* Oh ho ho! How unfortunate... That's no Onix precisely. *whispers* but did you know? Onix has the same attack power as a Weedle. *wink*
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>>57184611
A couple lines when you meet them (like every other leader) and then a couple lines in the ending when they appear to literally do nothing onscreen isn't writing.
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>>57184618
do other leaders have this?
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>>57184650
Why is the same screenshot in the image twice? Was there not enough scenarios to get 6 separate ones?
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I forgot how good the gym leader line up in gen 5 was. Every single one is memorable.
No gym leader line up since has really compared
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>>57184544
It's Gordie chud.
You spitting facts though, every single gym leader got involved in the story somehow in BW making them memorable (minus the Shadow-er-Striation Trio!), so the payoff when they come to pound the 6 Sage is juicy. No other gen has done this.
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>>57184949
Alola kinda sorta did it by having the Kahunas and Tapus fight the Ultra Beasts when Lusamine goes full retard and opens a bunch of portals
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>>57184962
Oh true, I was only thinking of the Trial Captains there so my B. Very story focused gen and I appreviate them adding that bit.
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>>57184828
And they never will because Pokemon fans hate it
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>>57184949
>No other gen has done this.
Gen 2 at least had Lance actually doing shit.
Amazin that a rocket grunt can take a hyper beam to the face and live though.
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>>57184561
LGPE soft retcons some of that, but it also is set just after gen 2, too.
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>unovafags circlejerking a simple and boring story again
kek
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>>57184612
>Why don't the local police or even the International Police have any decent trainers aside from Anabel who is only part of them because she got amnesia and isekai'd
Looker?
Also that one dude from gen 1 on the SS anne who started the whole "international police" thing.
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>>57184544
>>57184556
>>57184586
>>57184828
>>57184949
It's so dystopian seeing people on VP praise Unova. It's like if one day you woke up and now suddenly everyone loves Galar.
Can youjust admit BW is fundamentally flawed?
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>>57185904
You write like a faggot.
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>>57185911
Blatant homophobia, yikes. That's enough 4chan for me today.
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I went to my local gym, found the toughest guy there, and I told him about what was going on in the Ukraine. I'm going to visit the YMCA tomorrow and find the best swimmer next and inform them. Frankly I can't believe these people are sitting down on the job.
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bortie thread
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>>57185918
This is based at least.
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>>57185904
>>57185901
Well, what gen is your favorite then?
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>>57184537
what are they going to do with their under leveled shitmons?
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>>57186575
???
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>>57184949
>every single gym leader stepped out of the gym for 5 seconds to railroad you somewhere so the payoff when they conveniently instantly come to the castle to come to pound these retards who did literally nothing the whole game is juicy
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>>57186575
Anon, Gym Leaders have proper competitive teams for Tournaments. It's been confirmed lore that they use specific teams, levels, etc. in order to battle you based on the Gym Badges you already have. For instance you could have fought Giovanni first and he have a Lv. 10 Rhyhorn and a Lv. 12 Diglett. We've had multiple instances of confirmation here, GameFreak is just too stupid to implement it for gameplay purposes.
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>>57184537
>Not ignoring them
>Only turned up at the last second after ignoring them throughout the game
At least gym leaders from other regions are consistent, the Unova ones are flat out retarded like everything else in the shitgion.
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>>57188391
To be fair it's not like they were doing anything prior to that other than just being general delinquents and assholes.
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>>57186575
Gym leaders hold back depending on how many badges you have so no league aspiring trainer has an unfair start over the location they start on, things like Pokemon Origins, rematches pretty much confirm this.
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>>57185901
>>57185904
>>57188329
>if I simplify the dialogue and story, then it was always simple!
Unova has flaws but they're not fundamental somehow. The plot and characters are a clear strength.
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>>57188737
good thing no one simplified it then
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>>57184544
the bar for good pokemon writing is on the floor, but I suppose BW did go above it
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>>57188737
What's so good about it? It doesn't raise any interesting questions, it doesn't require any thinking to understand, it doesn't use any complex language, the characters are all one dimensional, the plot is cliche and boring.
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>>57185904
Hello Lily Orchard
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>>57184650
Kinda wish the monkey brothers being the Shadow Triad became official.
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>>57189717
Yes, those posts I responded to simplified the story, and then pretended it’s actually simple. Here’s another example of such tactics, including blatantly ignoring the game>>57189776
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>>57189776
A 20 year old boy has spent almost his entire life in a room full of toys, manipulated and deceived by the one who presented himself as his father: a man who orchestrated everything to shape public opinion to his liking. it's not so unrealistic that a man with great oratory skills could gain the population's trust, even if what he preaches seems to challenge everything. you, the gym leaders, and the champion may know his true intentions, but who are you compared to the hero recognized by the legendary founder of the region? Is that enough, or should I continue?
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>>57191054
>giovanni is the gym leader
>unova lets molemen build a nursing home under the e4 and need gym leaders to help fight off NFE and shitmons
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>>57190744
>ignoring every point to cry about the story
>>57191054
>you're the chosen one and the public doesn't know the bad guy is bad
Very deep.
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>>57191277
What does deep even mean at this point? N's internal conflict is engaging if you ask me, it's not the pinnacle of JRPGs but it's above the average
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>>57191294
If you think anything about N is engaging I suggest you try reading a book. Dr Seuss might be suitable for you to start with.
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>>57191432
>ad hominem
You have no argument. You’re using ad hominem to push your bullshit. It’s okay to correctly realize it’s a good story.
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>>57184537
Reborn fixes this, just use a Data Chip and type 'nopuzzles' if you play it
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>>57191533
We're not having a debate. You said something stupid and I insulted you. I could respond to every single post you've made itt with a fallacy btw
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>57185904
It was peak pokemon game freak wise, stop trying to stir up flamewars
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>>57191571
Oh, so you’re a shitposter who doesn’t believe what you yourself say. You should have said that earlier.
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>>57191574
No, I believe it. I'm just insulting you at the same time. And you jumped on that to avoid further BTFOing.
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>>57191294
>its better than the average jrpg
lmao
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>>57184537
>March 2020, when everyone thought the world was ending due to Covid
>Messi and Ronaldo roll up their sleeves: "I guess it's time to save the world!"
-your suggestion
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>>57191604
the average JRPG isn't FF or Persona
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>>57191616
And? The average jrpg story is still shit.
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>BW has a good story
You guys probably think it's hard too.
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>>57191623
yeah, and since bw story isn't shit, it's above the average, what didn't you understand?
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>>57188350
>For instance you could have fought Giovanni first and he have a Lv. 10 Rhyhorn and a Lv. 12 Diglett.
Do we actually have lore how often he actually does it? I imagine getting a duel with Giovanni would be like a huge appointment you need to set up beforehand.
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>>57191634
it is?
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>>57191644
>it's better than average
>average is a 2/10 hackjob
I guess by these standards it's good.
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>>57191650
Easily swept by samurott with nothing but level up moves.
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>>57191650
>no seviper
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Let me translate for the guy ITT who says BW has a decent story, as well as other such people you met: what they can't articulate is that they don't actually think the STORY is "decent". What they actually feel is that the themes BW presents, and which are tied N, resonate. It is indeed very attractive for there to be a villain group, or atleast one of its admins, who has a cause for which you can think/feel:
>Liberate Pokemon? Yeah, I can see that movement in the Pokemon world if it actually existed
>Yeah from their viewpoint, they really are the good guys here
some might also add
>I myself care about animals, it's really not that terrible a cause, isn't it?
You just can't say the same for the causes of the other organizations like Team Aqua, who have grandiose sci-fi supervillain projects.
What also activates your neurons is that N is an unhateable anti-villain who is never actually mean or dismissive towards the trainer. In fact, he is the more level headed and good natured part of every encounter with him.
Added to that is his memorable gimmick of only using actual wild Pokemon in the area, purely recruited by his charm.

Imagine if a real world organization like Sea Sheperd would fight against whalers by allying with the local whales too ram their ships. How badass would that be?

This is why people say "BW has a decent story". They actually mean to say "BW has appealing and resonating themes and ideas".
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>>57191695
Based literate anon. Story and themes are not the same.
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>>57191590
>” You’re just bad lol”
>no I’m not
>”OMG LOOK YOU’RE SO MAD AND BTFO”
Get a life

>>57191657
You’d have to level up a lot though for that part of the game
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>>57191717
No, I'd just sweep it at like level 43 or whatever. It's not a hard game.
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>>57191761
And how would you go about winning that battle like that?
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>>57191768
Spamming slash and razor shell, like every battle before it.
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>>57191771
IIRC one of his mons have dig and thus you’re kinda screwed by being outsped.
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>>57191777
How? Dig hits, razor shell KOs.
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>>57191781
That level difference would probably not KO, and then you’d keep getting hit by his other mons with dig.
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>>57184537
It's implied that the Elite 4 members/Champions work in tandem with the Government. Gym leaders on the other hand, not so much.

In Pokemon XY Anime,The Gym Leaders show up to stop Lysandre.
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>>57191695
The "liberation" is fine, but it's just a plot device, i just like N's internal conflict and Ghetsis' plan
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>>57191788
You don't even know what moves they have and are just making things up now. If they did outspeed and dig every turn items would counter that anyways.
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>>57191808
Yeah but you're pretending you know you'd sweep them when you wouldn't due to the level difference. Items take up a turn and the effects of which could be mitigated the opposing turn. He has six mons to lower you down and I don't see an easy path that you talked about. You'd need a really long and complex item strategy.



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