What will you guys do if pokemon keeps on getting worse?Where is your breaking point? Are you here forever no matter what?
I havent played anything past gen 5 and I never will
>>57192206I just come to mock zoomers that still play these games
>>57192206I'm just here to shitpost, Pokemon doing the impossible and somehow being worse would just vindicate my contempt for Pokefags and Game Freak.
>>57192206>if pokemon keeps on getting worse>ifIt's a foregone conclusion, I have already accepted this and am just enjoying and laughing at the decline.
>>57192206>Wokeshit Did the fatso was too close to home anon?
>>57192206Just continue following the series. Haven't brought anything pokemon related in quite a while. Sometimes I play fan games and will probably continue doing the same when I'm an old fuck. As long as I keep my mind entertained. All that matters really.
>>57192206the dexcut was my breaking point, I skipped pokemon for 3 years, then for SV they programmed 700+ pokemon, all my favorites were in but 3 mons, so I got back to play, still, pokemon as a series/world has me in love, I will be back as long as my favs are programed into the games, also, I got showdown, the animations and the porn
>>57192244No Im skelly mode I wanted to choose a pic with an ugly NPCAs for me I like to shitpost about pokemon with anons, I only care about the first 4 gens myself
>>57192206But Pokemon started to get better at last? I'm looking forward to the future of the franchise
>>57192395Please elaborate on why you have hope.
>>57192206>What will you guys do if pokemon keeps on getting worse?Play other games.>Where is your breaking point?When competitive starts to get worse. Thankfully, it's the one part of the series that's still improving with every gen; probably because it's the part Morimoto works on.>Are you here forever no matter what?Nope, I have plenty of other games.
>>57192404There's better writingThe games are better gameplay wise
>>57192404Not him, but I can see what he's saying. Even though SV were overall worse than SS, you can see GF was putting in effort. The effort was in all the wrong places, and they messed up and broke a bunch of things that were working, but it was the first time since Gen 5 it seemed like they were trying. If they can take the "work hard" mentality and actually direct it properly, Gen 10 could be an improvement over Gen 9.
>>57192206i lost all my hope with swsh, but im glad we had gen 5 before the series died so im ok with it
>>57192206I stopped caring about Pokemon during gen 5 due to everything about that gen when it was revealed looking like shit, boring starters, unappealing designs and the anime was fucking awful, roughly a year or so before Sun and Moon came out I started getting back into fangames with some hope things would improve, didn't like gen 6, too easy and lacking. Gen 7 was odd, it had some neat stuff but it didn't feel like Pokemon a lot of the time, like Gamefreak was trying to pander to another playerbase. Gen 8 fully killed my hope in the series, gen 9 improved some stuff, the story and characters weren't that bad, but the designs, awful framerate, bugs and open world slop with nothing to do, empty cities and barren fields with some NPCs at best, the game felt like a cheap but ambitious beta indie game from steam that seriously lacked polish. I have no hope for ZA or gen 10, it would take a miracle to make me even consider pirating the games by this point.
>>57192206I love watching you rage impotently at SV mogging your favorite childhood game.
>>57192206Already decided back in middle school that I'm only caring about the series until they drop the Unova remakes. I don't want them but at this point I'd rather they get them over with. This series stinks.
>>57192222Checked.>>57192630>cat point and laugh meme>genwarring for SVThis post reeks of zoomer.
I left after Gen 7. The fanbase in general was getting very anti-criticism over Gen 8, and I took that as a red flag and bailed. Then they got mad at Gen 9 for having the exact same problems that they were defending in Gen 8.Fuck hypocrites. Nowadays I only play ROMhacks.
>>57192206SV was the first gen I enjoyed in ages. It's getting better.
>>57192206The last two games were the best they've made in a decade, so I don't see why I should be a doomer faggot like you
>>57192206I'll never forgive them for the dexcut in gen 8, so I'm more cautious over buying the games nowadays.
It hasn't gotten worse, you're desiring a series designed for children to become harder and more grimdark.Graphical glitches haven't stopped the series.
>>57192206>What will you guys do if pokemon keeps on getting worse?Keep shitposting on /vp/ for (You)s because this place is such a den of schizoposting that it never runs out of free serotonin, far more than the Pokemon franchise itself has generated in decades.>Where is your breaking point?It broke all the way back in gen 3 when they didn't let me transfer my GB bros to the GBA and expected me to buy Colosseum, GoD AND FRLG in order to replace them.>Are you here forever no matter what?Until the day I die, the day 4chan dies, or the day the (You)s stop coming.
>>57192206I hate the npc designs in Gen 9 so fucking much
I don't give a fuck about what you think is good, bad or worse and frankly,I've been playing it over half my life, since I was 15 and I don't expect that to change in any way. I still enjoy playing the things and looking at the state of the rest of the industry right now, I'll take a kiddyshit series I know I'll stick a couple thousand hours in over something that's meh, multiplayer-focused or dis-interesting because the devs want to make CGI movies at heart and let that colour their development processes.
>>57192217I want to reach this level of happiness, but I'm already impure. how do I go back?
When was the last time you played a Pokemon game on an actual Gameboy? The actual Gameboy or Gameboy Color with only at best a worm light? Ruby or Sapphire on the original Gameboy Advance because an SP is out of your price range?
>>57192206when the remove the collection transfer i'll be 1000% done, My Breaking point was dexit, i never bought any Pokemon games since but i have played them and added to my collection, TPC have not got any of my money direct.Pokemon is like AVGN, They started strong but now other franchises have come along and done it better but you still have fans cling on to hope the סld days return when they are long gone.
>>57192807Wanting competent devs=/=wanting an edgy Pokemon game that requires you to go full Smogonfag to beat the first Youngster.
>>57192889I like the fat bastards at school, it makes me selfinsert
>>57192656it reeks of four things1. zoomer2. furfaggotry3. autism4. virginitycan you imagine being those 4 things holy shit. I would PROUDLY kill myself if I were like that
>>57192807>Disingenuous faggotry>Moving the goalpost >Strawman argument >Picture is of an abysmally shit and failed anime nobody cares aboutZoomers should not be allowed internet access.
Just move the franchise is not going to appeal to you anymore
if switch2 doesn't improve SV's performance, I will simply never finish it. I like everything about the game except how it runs, which is unbearable.Outside of that pokemon is doing pretty well, SwSh was unironically pretty good, sv just happens to run like shit.
>>57193107It's gonna run a thousand times worse because it's an archipelago with more water.
>>57192897We can’t go back. Only forward
>>57193114no I mean like, switch2 is almost confirmed to be backwards compatible, meaning the loading times and performance for sv on better hardware have to be shorter. I'm not talking about the gen 10 at all, just sv.If the switch 2 isn't backwards compatible somehow though, or if sv doesn't run any better on the new hardware, then I will never ever finish sv, period. AND if the next gen runs just as unbearably bad on top of that then I will actually be done with pokemon entirely.
>>57192206honestly? my breaking point might of been gen 9, but I feel as long as they keep making new pokemon designs, I'm gonna keep playing new games. I don't feel a big connection with my gen 9 team like I did my gen 8 one, but that might just be autism.
>>57193135thats not how videogames work
>>57193107If low framerates bother you, why are you playing on Switch instead of PC?
>>57193135Afriad not and the hardware specs that are almost confirmed at this point indicate it to be a switch 1.5 not a 2, Its competing with the steam deck
>>57193289idk, competing with the steam deck sounds pretty fucking good lmao.
>>57193170Does the game perform better on pc due to mods or simply due to better hardware? If it's the second then I might as well just wait to see how it works on new hardware, since I'm getting the switch 2 anyway.>>571932891.5 might possibly be enough. Like I said I was fine with swsh, I don't need 60fps@4k. I just need -somewhat decent- performance as opposed to straight up dogshit which is what we have rn.
>>57192420I've said it myself way back admittedly, but I've been hearing this same cope for 10 years now. When is it actually going to get better?>>57192206I'm beyond finished. Even if Gen 10+ are everything I could want, I'm not giving them another cent. At worst I'll consider buying secondhand.I've got a lifetime of enjoyment left simply replaying Gens 1-5 (and 6/7 I suppose, bleh, at least they're pre-dexcut), so I'll just do that.I dont really have a relevant image so have a Wicke
The games have only gotten better with every new release
>>57192420>Even though SV were overall worse than SSThat's not true thought. if you want a non genwarring opinion SV is a clearly improvement over SWSH.
>>57193926>SS>SWSHSS is SoulSilver.
>>57193930Thats HGSS
>>57192874That's kind of sad.
>>57192206Pikachu keeps me going.
>>57192206do what I'm doing now, playing exclusively romhacks and other creature collecting games like Palworld
>>57192206this gen was my breaking point, this is the first time in my life where I sometimes see a pokemon and just don't know its name, its sobering thought.
>>57192206I already quit playing the games past SM.
>>57192966Booted up Silver on my old Gameboy color the other day.
Who the fuck need Pokemon when palworld exist? And new monster collecting games are coming like roco kingdom and mihoyo is releasing a monster collecting game too this year and all will better than gf games
>>57194677lollmao even
>>57192206I can no longer name every PokemonI don't know Pokespe like the back of my hand anymoreI can't name every gym leader, evil team member, professor, etc like I used to as a kidAnd I'm fine with that
All Pokemon games are shit people say "old games were good" lol they aged like shit the battle system is so damn boring and easy, zero good plots for a rpg, Pokemon is just alive because nostalgia imagine being 30+ and still caring this series
>>57194687It's The same fucking game every year with more retarded uglier designs and forced regions, let it already die
>>57194637>>57194682Sounds like a (You) problem. I've been playing since 1999 and can still name all gen 9 Pokémon, gym leaders etc. Step it up.
Don't care, the franchise is dead btw
>>57192206>if pokemon keeps on getting worse?i doubt there was anything to ruin to begin with
>>57194687>All Pokemon games are shit people say "old games were good"It's mostly nostalgia and they most likely played it a lot due to not having money, but had a lot of time. But I'd say Crystal is really good to this day. All it is missing is abilities.
Only gen 1 and 2 matters nobody cares your flop gens past it
>>57194732saaaaaaaaaar
pokemon stop being a vidoegame years ago you only see is merchandize, cards, mobile games
>>57192206That isn't what woke means, you're trying to poison/dilute/invert the meaning because you support enshittification and DEI
>>57193926NTA, but no, it isn't man. Some of this might be subjective, but the game runs worse performance-wise compared (to the point of giving many players nausea, myself included), the game looks uglier, the amount of glitches and bugs on release are unacceptable, the open world is poorly made and doesn't account for players entering areas different ways (i.e. Star Bases), Gym challenges and Titans function like are incredibly low effort, it has the same shitty raids but worse. The only thing it has above SWSH is character writing, but that's an incredibly low bar.SWSH and SV both suck ass, but clearly SWSH is slightly less bad. I dont know where this meme came from that SV is an improvement. It is clearly the worst this series has ever been, with the caveat I didn't even touch the DLC. People are welcome to like it as much as they want, but it is bad.
>>57194814All wrong btw.
>>57192206Cope. SV is literally one of the best pokemon games ever
>>57194814The Wild Area is FAR worse than SVs open world. Don't even get me started on the completely pants in head retarded restrictions on levels in SwSh.SwSh raids are also much worse. At least you have to come up with strategies and counters with the 6 and 7 star raids instead of "lol just use your box legendary".And even though SwSh does definitely look better, the story is so fucking bad. You literally cannot finish it without being utterly disappointed. SV is the complete opposite.
>>57194814>t. hasnt played either games
This thread and replies are so artificial...
SV would be good if the gyms etc scaled up with you
>>57192206I look like this except fatter and uglier
>>57192271literally me
>>57194981No. Scaling is soulless.
>>57192630Flop Cat
>>57192206I am just here for the girls, and recent entries still deliver on thatActually I think they improved a lot, in the earliest entries their primary consideration wasn't how much eye candy or how cute they were, whereas now it is.
>>57194741So from Gen 1?Because all that shit existed back in the day too, only the sales count got bumped artificially as people wondered what the fuck it was only to start dropping it when it confirmed itself to be a kiddy game series pushing merch.
>>57194814You know we can tell you haven't actually played it, right?
>>57192206I'll just keep playing romhacks. The last mainline game I played was Sun and Moon but I also played PLA.I don't think any major franchise knows what it's doing with it's IP in the current year so its better to just keep loosely following fan projects that integrate newer mechanics and content into fan made games. I don't think I've bought any merch, TCG, or games since PLA and even before that I hadn't been in it like I was before during ORAS.
>>57194981Wrong. The only open-world games that have level scaling are pure slop.
>>57192206I dropped after Ultra Moon and am pretty much here just for memes and porn.Also occasional nostalgia talk if it hits. Everything new I know of this franchise now is through social osmosis formed through this board and pretty much nowhere else.
>>57192206mostly i just like the creature designs and being able to battle with some guys i like and form a bond. i only played SV 'cause the rom leaked early here a couple years back and had nothing better to do, enjoyed playing it and laughing at the shit aspects with my buddies but didn't bother with the DLC. as long as there's a few designs i like each generation i'll be tangentially interested but i think the mainline games aren't really for me anymore, i'll just stick to spinoff series and fangames from here on out>>57192222checked. i kneel
>>57195038having to look up a map online to do the correct order is even more soulless
>>57192420>Even though SV were overall worse than SSnah, SwSh are the worst in the entire franchise by a long shot, these games literally teared the fandomSV are the ones that took steps in the right direction, still not as good as gens 1-7
>>57195953>have to>correct orderThis is a problem with you, not the game
>>57195962No its a problem with the game, if it scaled I could do things in any order.
>>57195969>I could do things in any order.There is literally nothing stopping you, except your own autism
I stopped playing after SM. It was the hallway simulator that broke the camel's back.USUM looked like more of the same and overhyped in spite of coming out one day short of a year later. "Ultra Changes" my ass. Can't fix the design of the game.LGPE was a dumb baby game for babies. It's like they took out all the aesthetic and vibes of Gen I. To be fair, FRLG saturated it a bit too, but FRLG actually had significant new content. LGPE felt like a slap in the face.SwSh looked like an even worse hallway simulator with a big wild area in the middle. The climax is a joke, they just railroad you the whole way. Even if the dex cut sucks, it wasn't a big deal. The games are shit regardless of how many Pokémon are in them because they don't fucking do anything good with them. Sun and Moon didn't even have an actual National Pokédex to catalogue anything beyond the Alola Pokédex. At least it had Island Scan, but more than 50% of existing Pokémon didn't matter whatsoever, they're just trading forward, that's boring.SwSh's third version being done as DLC is honestly fine, but the base game is so mediocre that I'm never going to touch it.BDSP by virtue of being based on an older game is fun, but it's so heavily compromised visually and and by the inclusion of later mechanics that I would rather just play DPPt. There are cool additions, but it's an incredibly low effort remake overall.PLA looks like ass visually, the game might be designed around tedious busywork, and I don't think the "open world" style of gameplay is necessarily an improvement, but honestly it's the closest I've come to buying a new Pokémon game since 2016. It seems to at least carry the spirit of older Pokémon.SV look and run like ass, I hate the style, I don't care about the story or character designs, the idea of an Ed Sheeran song as the credits pisses me off. But all the rematch stuff along with the DLC sounds cool.
>>57192889Same though i really like the hiker and workers
>>57196069Swsh dlc is very good, specifically ct
>>57194981Ignore the other fuckwads, your absolutely correct
>>57195996Whats stopping me its that the game is not fun if you go wheverer because finding out you are either overlevelled or underlevelled fot the thing is not fun
Both corridors and open word are shit design that sparks zero joyGen 1-4 map design was amazing
>>57195953You don't have to look up anything. Fuck around and find out. Gym is 5 or 10 levels higher than your mons? A good challenge. So how is that a problem?With scaling, everything would feel the same. You would never have a challenge because you know they'd always put their mons at a lower levels than yours cause it's a game for toddlers. You'd never beat a gym or titan way before you were supposed to, giving you a good sense of accomplishment. Scaling would take the fun away.
>>57196389>So how is that a problem?Because the excess EXP you get from conquering such opponents will mean that when you find the Gym Leader, Titan or Team Star Base that was meant for your level range, you're now suddenly overpowered and curbstomp them, which feels hollow and unfun compared to the prior unexpected challenge you got to experience.
>>57196069You know you can play the games instead of posting what do you think the games are , right?
>>57196335Gen 4 map is a fucking abomination
>>57192206I haven't played anything past Gen 7But Legends Arceus looks fun
>>57192897poke classic network helps
>>57196459That's too much for the pokemon fanbase
>>57192206Every time a new generation comes out I hum and haw, wait longer and longer to buy it and then realize I would have liked it even if I bought it day one. I think I'm just a Pokemon fan
>>57192206Stopped after the first Sun & Moon. I gave the benefit of the doubt for X/Y but USUM looked so lazy that I stopped playing altogether.
>>57196446Then switch your Pokémon. Don't tell me you're still doing the ol' "pick 6 mons and stick with them the whole game" thing? That's not how it's done anymore.
>>57196335Yes Anon we call it "None Linear" and it's what real gamers enjoy, Only gaymers enjoy open world.
>>57192966It’s been like 2 years because my Crystal’s battery finally ran out. I’ll get that repaired eventually and get back to playing OG Gameboy.
>>57192206Gen 7 and 9 were among the very best so unless they swerve back into mediocrity like with 8 I'm very excited. Still not buying nintoddler shit unless gen 10 completely overhauls the ecosystem i.e. gives pokemon unique identifiers and makes them more than bits of data that are laughably easily to artificially inject. No, I don't care about the shitmons you have perpetually stuck in living dex purgatory not being able to be migrated to the new environment. >>57192217>I haven't played anything but gen 5ftfy, kys zoomer unovabortion
>>57196726mald
>>57192206I jumped ship after Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee and I'm only here for the worldbuilding and fanart.
>>57196744triggered unovabortionI played all of bw and bw2 and they were so unbelievably boring I couldn't tell you a single a thing about them except that the map was shit
>>57192206>HEY EARL!
