What game would you say is the easiest part 2.Last thread >>57188498Never reached a conclusion
And we never will because of eternal shitposting.No if you post after me you're contributing to flamewarring.
>>57193138it was probably said in the last one, but X&Y is oftentimes said to be the perfect game to start your nuzlocke-ing journey with, so.. maybe that one? but then again challenge runs are kinda aids so y'know.maybe it's sword and shield because technically you can just grind the fuck out of the wild area and get your pokemon to level 80+ before you even beat the first gym?that's my thought process anyway.I adore both games, btw, this isn't said out of hate, this is said out of love and knowledge of the games.
>>57193138gallade spotted
>>57193153you don’t even have to grind in Galar if you have the DLCthe Crown Tundra story will still progress if you lose to Peony and you can catch the tutorial Suicune
>>57193161oh shit I forgot about the dlc lmaoyeah you can just catch a pokemon from there and it justobeys you. I wonder if this is why SV had that weird level cap thing for pokemon capturing?
>>57193147Correct, saving the thread via Rhyperior-posting
I still gotta say SV basegame, since its ridiculously easy for (you) to overlevel, even on accident.>57193147Is it flamewarring, jannie, if we're being respectful and polite, or is any opinion you disagree with, jannie, a flamewarring opinion?>>57193153Always thought there was some sorta lock on SS's wild area mons that prevented you from taking too much of an advantage from their higher levels.>>57193161I personally only measure the base-game, since that has fewer opportunities for abuse to take place, even if some still occur.
>>57193168Not a janny but I'm observing a simple fact that the previous thread OP linked was an absolute cesspool.
>>57193173makes sense, these things can devolve from one guy going "yeah this game? I fucking hate this game, so it's the easiest"which in-turn makes people mald, and then before you know it we've devolved into apes throwing rocks around. >>57193168there is for the wild area, but there's no lock for EXP candies. my friend had a level 60 inteleon before he beat the 2nd gym iirc.
>>57193138The conclusion was that gen 5 is the easiest.
>>57193196>revisionismAnd so the genwarring begins.>>57193147Huh, based anon used future sight.
>>57193200What revisionism?
>>57193196welp. the discussion was good when it lasted.
>>57193203That's not the conclusion whatsoever. Unless you are seeing things....
>>57193196We never came to a conclusion. But based on reading up on it, the answer was actually Gen 6, at least based on the direction the conversation was heading.
>>57193138If you want a genuine answer, any of the Gen 6 games, LGPE, or SwSh. Don’t care about this board’s inability to have a coherent discussion.
>>57193215as said in my post, gen 6 or gen 8 is probably the easiest to go for.
>57193196>this blatant genwarfag will never be reported and permabanned because no one knows how to properly deal with himI'm done with 4chan
>>57193196>>57193248Post proof you aren't samefagging within the next three minutes or else.
>>57193248Facts and logic?Such as?
Got this and Pokerus from just leveling my niggas up so by the time I got to the Fairy gym my team was fully EV trained. Granted it was garbage stats but whatever.ACTUALLY it wouldn't have mattered cause the game gives you that EV training minigame before the first gym lulmao
>>57193138The correct answer is Let's Go. These games have: >Forced EXP Share>Forced Affection bonuses>Awakening Values which can add a raw 200 bonus to any stat with no cumulative limitI don't give a shit about this eternal BW/XY war, the answer is Let's Go.
>>57193305holy shit how did we forget about lets goit was literally MADE to be mind-numbingly easy.
>>57193305The gambler with the Fissure Diglett is harder than any NPC in gen 5, so no.
>>57193316>false statement + genwar postDeath
remember, anonspeople fishing for gen 5 without actually explaining their reasonings are just looking to piss you off.good example of an argument: >>57193305bad example of an argument: >>57193316
>>57193316>playing like a retard on purposeFighting any optional trainer in Let's Go is a waste of time
>>57193316No, not reallyFissure has 30% accuracy and always fails if you're a higher level. I doubt it's even a threat.
>>57193316>Oddish used Ababor!A tale as old as fucking time
>>57193316how bad do you have to be to lose to an OHKO move lmao
>>57193337saying “exp share exists” isn’t a good argumentit has literally no correlation to how hard the game is>>57193355What Oddish? It died from Fissure.
>>57193364>it has no correlation even though exp gain is single handedly the best predictor of if a game is easy or not>it does from fissure because I fucking suck
>>57193364I mean, he gave concrete evidence and backed up his claim, and I couldn't exactly put my own as a good example, that'd be narcissistic.
>>57193364>Oddish endured the hit so you wouldn't feel sad!
>>57193348The Gamblers in LGPE have overleveled Pokemon, retard. Fissure’s accuracy shoots up if the Pokemon is a higher level than yours.https://youtu.be/QDvtsLEPEhk?si=DDxdUQ8UQM2k6ksu
>>57193364The problem with forced EXP share is that you can't turn it off when you're overleveled. It's perfectly fine to help weak mons catch up, but they don't need the extra EXP when you're 10 levels above every other trainer.
>>57193364>saying “exp share exists” isn’t a good argument>saying “fissure exists” and “gen 5 is bad for no reason lol” is a good argumentYou should have been born under Pol Pot
>>57193377So why are you fighting that guy in the first place? Wasting time with unnecessary battles, playing like a retard on purpose?
>>57193370>it has no correlation even though exp gain is single handedly the best predictor of if a game is easy or notTechnically true. Every single Gen 7+ game is harder than every single Gen 1-6 game, so not really. So exp share actually implies that the game is harder.>>57193371What evidence? He just said “thing exists therefore game is easier but I won’t actually explain how the thing existing means the game is easier”
>>57193377>shitty YouTubers are now argumentative proof
>>57193313Gotta find people who actually played Let's Go first
>>57193393>you not even understanding how OHKO moves work or the level scaling of the game is now argumentative proof
>>57193391>fanfic I made upNo game with affection is harder than anything without it.>What evidence?Exp share make you over leveled. Over leveling makes it easy.
>>57193398And how exactly did you deduce my understanding is somehow lacking anon? Go ahead and show the class.This genwarfaggotry is insane. This guy really needs a rope.
>>57193385>saying “fissure exists” and “gen 5 is bad for no reason lol” is a good argumentYes, because I have a chance of losing against an NPC spamming Fissure with a fast Pokemon. I have no chance of losing against any NPC in gen 5.
Imagine if he put this much effort into playing games
>>57193383Good thing I get less overleveled in newer games compared to gen 5, then.
>>57193409>the chances are the way I say they areYou have less chances losing in the game where you’re overleveled and roughing everything out. This doesn’t apply to Gen 5. I could just as easily say something like “volt switch” and demand you put the pieces together like the retard you are.
>>57193409Then how come you never show us a full playthrough, Yawnie?
honestly guys just ignore the "gen 5 is easiest" guy because dude hasn't even tried to give a concrete reason on why.look, I get it, it's very tempting to get angry at the dude, but you're supposed to avoid feeding the trolls, not throw circus peanuts at them.
>>57193407>thinks OHKO moves are locked to 30% accuracy>thinks the Gamblers are somehow underleveled when they’re drastically overleveled>”h-how did I demonstrate that I’m a retard who doesn’t know what he’s talkijg about?”
>>57193377It's still really inaccurate. It only goes up by 1% per level. Also, I was overleveled at the time. I didn't grind and I fought the average amount of trainers.
>>57193412>muh anecdoteExp share games overlevel people more so therefore they’re easier. Take that to the bank, jank.
>>57193414>You have less chances losing in the game where you’re overleveledAgreed, which is exactly why Gen 5 is easier.>>57193424>Exp share games overlevel people more No they don’t.
>>57193418Thanks for proving you engage in fanfics instead of answering the question.
>>57193427>Gen 5 is easierBut it doesn’t overlevel me the way exp share and affection games, very logically, do. So it’s harder.>No they don’tYes, they very obviously do
>>57193418>drastically overleveledIf you play like a retard on purpose maybe
>hasn’t even been an hour >more than a post per minute because of the genwarfag unova hater
..why do I even try. oh well, folks. enjoy arguing with someone who won't actually listen to anything you're saying.it's clear you both won't stand down.
>>57193432>But it doesn’t overlevel me the way exp share and affection games, very logically, doYes it does.>>57193432> Yes, they very obviously doIn FRLG I can easily have a lv36+ starter by the time I reach Lt Surge.In LGPE this is basically impossible without heavy grinding on wild Pokemon because the game is modified such that trainers give extremely little exp.Which is why saying “exp share exists so the game is easier!” Is a fucking braindead argument and just demonstrates you didn’t actually play LGPE.
>the more overleveled you are, the generally easier the game is, right?>yes>and exp increases your level, right?>yes>and exp share increases your level moreso, right?>yes>so games with exp share overlevel you more and are easier>nah, the opposite for some reasonLethal injection for the obvious psycho who will NEVER explain his assertions.
>>57193398And I know exactly how they work.All OHKO moves have 30% accuracy, however that increases by 1% for every level you have above your opponent. They fail against Pokémon that are higher level. In the case of this Fissure Diglett, it's actually quite easy to avoid him. But if you absolutely have to fight him, it's easy, there's plenty of flying types available at this point.
>>57193444>yes it doesNo it doesn’t.>this thing is possible via grinding but this other things doesn’t count as grindingYou can’t actually believe your bullshit, can you?
>>57193444>heavy grindingYou just catch the ones you see and you'll be overleveled very quickly. There's no reason not to catch everything you see because it only takes a few seconds per mon. You'd be playing like a retard on purpose if you just walked past them.
>>57193451>and exp share increases your level moreso,Moreso relative to what? Each game has different exp balancing, you retard.
>>57193412You must not have played Gen 5. The Exp formula makes it difficult to overlevel
>>57193466>The Exp formula makes it difficult to overlevelNot really. Gen 5 is the easiest game to overlevel in right behind Gen 6.
>>57193455>y-y-y-you grinded!!!And with that concession, the thread has come to close. Thanks for playing, folks. See you in the next XY seethe thread that reaches 300+ replies.
>this game on hard mode is easier than gen 5 apparently simply because it has forced exp share
>>57193470Now post the Lv8 Clefairy you claim to have caught right at the end of Mt. Moon, where they don't spawn that low.
>>57193474No it doesn't. Only active demons get EXP, the ones that participate in battle. Demons in stock don't get any.
>>57193444No it doesn't. Gen 5's exp formula makes it almost impossible to overlevel.And that's not how LGPE's exp formula works. Trainers give just as much exp as catching. You'd know this if you actually played the game.
>>57193485Yes, exactly like how in Pokemon the Pokemon in your PC don't get EXP.
>>57193456I completed an area's dex as much as possible upon entering it. I was like 3 levels above everyone else. Fought every trainer and by the time I was at Erika my whole team was 40+
>>57193486I don't know the actual formula for either but I'm 100% positive that catching a Lv10 Pidgey will give more XP than defeating a Lv10 Pidgey in a trainer battle. Maybe not the base value, but trainer battles don't have all those throw bonuses stacking with each other.
>>57193486>Gen 5's exp formula makes it almost impossible to overlevelThis isn't remotely true and the only reason you think this is because you haven't actually tried it and just parrot what other people say.Go ahead and fire up a Gen 5 playthrough without wasting exp on six pokemon the entire time like a retard and I guarantee you will overlevel extremely quickly.
>>57193500Why'd you stop at the dex? Just catch everything in your path, there's no reason not to. Don't play like a retard on purpose.
>>57193498Stock isn't your PC, that's the compendium. Stock demons are equivalent to a Pokémon game's party.
>>57193468Really? Prove it?How the hell can you end up drastically overleveled in Gen 5 when the experience you gain when overleveled is cut, allowing the game's level curve to catch up. I've played BW in so many ways, solo runs, nuzlockes, training a full team of six etc. Every single time, I was no more than 1 or 2 levels over and this was after fighting every trainer available at any point.
>>57193512Ok, then you're flat out lying about SMTV and coping over not having played it.
>>57193516>>57193508
>>57193517Unless this is some "QOL" bullshit they added for Vengeance, I am positive that only demons that participate in battle get EXP.
>>57193503The base values without the modifiers are the same according to the code. Though I've never actually caught something without at least one modifier.
>>57193508I've played it countless times1. Having a team of multiple Pokémon is technically the intended way.2. I've done solo runs. I rarely end up more than a couple levels over if I fight every NPC.
>>57193533You forgot to hack in a Lucky Egg like yawnie always does
>>57193509I mostly just focused on shit I needed. I did try to shiny hunt a few times later on but stopped as by the time I got to the E4, I was like 20 levels over.
>>57193533>2. I've done solo runs.Go ahead most proof of you doing a solo run and not overleveling without purposefully skipping every trainer.
>>57193503Trainer battles haven't had an EXP multiplier since Gen 7, which is interestingly another weird anomaly that potentially makes Gen 6 one of the easier gens. I personally still think BDSP is way easier in the campaign due to the way the game is designed (which is to say it's less designed around the systems than Let's Go if that's possible), although Let's Go has a strong argument as well, but that's neither here nor there. SV has way too high variance to say anything definitive about it, which I would argue is really bad in a game that relies heavily on any sort of linear leveling system, but does mean it's potentially more difficult than basically every other Pokemon title on the Switch (unless somebody here wants to go to bat for PLA then be my guest).
>>57193536Pretty sure you get one for free, though I don't think I've used it.
>>57193544I don't have proof because I never thought I'd need to prove anything.
>>57193465In general. You mention exp balancing but never actually use it as an argument for why any game is easier or harder.>>57193470How is that a bad argument? You brought up grinding first, Biden.>>57193521That's not proof, but this is>>57193533>>57193517How's that a lie? Why is your last resort always "y-you just don't know what you're talking about!" whenever someone proves you're a shitposter?>>57193544NTA. This wouldn't prove anything. This technique would over level you in every game, but in BW less so because your exp gains are slower than the curve when overlevelled, preventing you from getting too overlevelled
Here’s a person on /vp/ who did a BW2 playthrough with sagie seething the whole time because the guy was overleveled from the game’s shitty balancing.>>56085102>>56093493
>>57193585Can't open. I've never seen someone be overleveled playing Gen 5 before. Do you have screenshots or videos?
>>57193585he's going to start having a meltdown and accusing him of grinding too, just watch
>>57193585Hm let's look at that thread.Just a guy who's playing fineyawnie attacks unovafags for no reason so an argument ensues>OP admits to grindingHate to be the bearer kek
>>57193602How did you access tbe thread?
>>57193602>OP admits to grindingwhere
Started Pokémon White, named my character "Clover" what starter should I pick for the Solo Run?
>>57193609Use one of the archiveshttps://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/56085102/
>>57193611>he doesn't read the threads he posts as muh checkmate proofLike always. I will NOT be spoon-feeding you. Do your own due diligence before posting that shit. It's clear by the archive you cited it for months already without reading it.
>>57193614>I-I won’t actually post the proof of him admitting to grinding even though it would instantly win me the argumentKEK you’re full of shit
I'm just gonna pick Snivy and I'll name it Smugleaf
>>57193617He blatantly says he trains specific mons at specific parts of the games, and admits to fighting every optional trainer as well.The only one full of shit is the one using a random person's playthrough in a genwar without reading it.
>>57193625>He blatantly says he trains specific mons at specific parts of the games, and admits to fighting every optional trainer as well…this isn’t grinding. It’s just playing the game normally.
>>57193635I wouldn't say fighting every trainer is intended in the sense that some are hidden and are optional. When they say train, they mean to fight wild mons.
>>57193639>When they say train, they mean to fight wild mons[citation needed]
>>57193635That’s literally grinding anon idk what to tell you at this point.>>57193641What else would it mean? Tell everyone your version of reality dude.
>>57193138Who in their right mind would wanna continue that thread?
Gen 8 is really hard, I took a little damage with my team before the third gym (croagunk used suckerpunch)>>57193057
>>57193641They said they KO'ed every wild encounter and in a few instances ran around KOing wild mons for exp.
>>57193661>lying this blatantlyYou’ve reached a new low, sagie.
>>57193676Read the thread, idiot.
I'm up to Striaton City, fought every trainer, Smugleaf is now Level 9. Almost at 10.
Got the Panpour that I nicknamed slave
I expect to leave the gym no more than 1 or 2 levels above. Later on I expect the curve to even out.
>>57193729>>57193716>>57193706>no screenshotsWe're back to square one where nobody is proving anything.
>>57193700I did. You’re lying.
There, happy? I can't take screenshots on my 3DS.Anyway, I'm actually slightly below the Gym Leader's ace (Level 14). I do have a plan. Go in, spam Growth, Vine Whip to KO Lillipup then KO Pansear with Tackle.
>>57193770Lillipup leveled up Smugleaf to 14.
>>57193753>I did, here’s proof I didn’t ???
>>57193225See you tomorrow
>>57193776Did not oneshot after 4 Growth. Tanked a crit Incinerate then finished with another Tackle.
>>57193804What even is a "C-gear"? Is it like an iPad?
>>57193813Its like the android of the wrist-communicator world that Unova apparently has, because the X-Tranceiver is a fair bit better but is also pretty much the exact same thing, and at no point do any of them call it a phone or a handy or whatever slang 2010s phoners would use.
>>57193819I always assumed it was a software installed onto the Xtransceiver. Though the game never specifies it.
>>57193804Get a venipede, I've always wanted to use one
>>57193813Bro is evolving.>>57193855I might catch one and use it a bit.
>>57193865>using another Pokémon This will ruin the experiment. We gotta play this yawnfag's way. All EXP must be exclusively gained by one Pokémon.
>>57193873It doesn't matter. He's just gonna do what he did in the BW2 thread and 'leave his game running overnight'
>>57193873>yawnfag plays like he's <5 years old
>>57193897Supposedly this is the only way to play without "playing like a retard for no reason"
>>57193865Might get slightly over leveled in Lenora's gym. Not surprised. Probably won't take long for the game's natural level curve to fix it.
>>57193981I surprisingly didn't get overleveled. Though her Watchog actually OHKO'd my Servine with Retaliate. It also has Crunch. Fucking Crunch at the Second Gym.
>>57194020I blacked out. Ironically against the black gym leader.
based watch wife does it again
>>57194025Won round 2.
>waste exp on a shitmon>losemany such cases>Lvl 20 0 Atk Watchog Retaliate (140 BP) vs. Lvl 21 0 HP / 0 Def Servine: 39-46 (62.9 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKOYou would have easily beat it if you weren’t bad at the game.
>>57194039Did you reset between battles?
>>57194058Yes.>>57194056Did you take into account critical hits?
>>57194056Also Servine was only level 20 when I fought Watchog.
>>57194056Also I didn't waste even a drop of exp. There have been some double battles, so I needed a second Pokémon to get the exp
>>57193138From Easiest to Hardest:1- LGPE (made for grandparents and streamers)2- X/Y (the game doesn't even try to defeat you)3- RBE/ORAX (Swampert is OP and a grass/electric pokemon steamrolls it)4- SV (not only everything handholds you with tons of free items, but the free overworld battles makes everything fast and easy)5- SWSH (another game that pretends you are a drooly who just want to see Charizard and not to play a game)6- SM (Totems are strong if you are not prepared, and the 2nd half legendaries and UBs can put up a fight)7- RBY/FRLG (awful movepools and limited access to TMs before post-game make your pokemon feel weak which forces you to rely on super-effective damage or overleveling)8- GEN4 (awful wild pokemon distribution and most of them are Kanto shitmons. that's why everyone uses the same team)9- BW/BW2 (the AI actually tries and those shadow ninja goons have strong teams)10- USUM (same as SM but Necrozma, yes you can cheese it but still)
>>57194156>8- GEN4 (awful wild pokemon distribution and most of them are Kanto shitmons. that's why everyone uses the same team)Torterra and Luxray literally steamroll Gen 4
>>57194156Btw this has nothing to do with which games I like the most
>>57194156I forgot Gen2 games. they are between Gen 5 and USUM>>57194169been a while but I remember there were lots of ice pokemon and I couldn't use Torterra that much in the 2nd half
>>57194180>gen 2Feraligatr sweeps, unironically. Bite deals with psychics, Surf is a stab 90 bp move, Ice Punch is peak anti-grass/dragon/flying, and i used Strength as the physical coverage. Yeah its 2 hms, but theyre good moves. A bit sad Lance peaked at level 50 with 3 dragonite.
>>57194156Seems like we have the same list, while the games aren't that hard, gen 7 and gen 5 seem to have given me more trouble than the rest. The sky battles in XY did caught me off-guard since I only use one flying type per team but even then I was able to unga bunga them due to the exp share making sure everyone gets their slice of exp.
>>57194169>TorterraFrom what I remembered in my Platinum playthrough it really suffers from the typing. Not a lot of resistances and that everyone and their grandma's have ice and fire coverage. Sick design though, love the guy.
>>57194180Never really thought of Gen 2 as difficult. Any reasons in particular?
>>57194203yeah I heard Feral makes the game easy. needs to replay it with it someday.I chose Chikorita and Cyndaquil and I found myself needing to grind before gyms a bit.Unironically I wish EXP share was a thing in early games to cut down leveling time or maybe I was playing too fast?>>57194212True. Gen5 in particular with Snivy was hellish.>>57194276it's not difficult, it just you don't have many options early game and the gym leaders have a big gap in levels so you will face yourself needing to grind since there's no EXP share.my first run was with Chikorita and her movepool didn't make things easier
>>57193138It's XY from the mainline games, objectively the easiest one would be Let's GO though.
>>57194289
Shit. Just realized there's the Battle Company in Castelia City
>>57194375I'm getting such little experience
>>57193138We can discard gen 1 to 5 as the easiest, seeing as they don't have any friendship derivative mechanics nor easy QoL meant to trivialize the game like super and hyper training.With that in mind, I'd narrow down the contenders to:>XY>Let's GO>SwShMy reasoning for disqualifying the rest:>ORASAlthough ORAS suffers a lot of XYs faults as well as RSE's, and even goes out of their way to get you a free mega Latios/Latias, it's worth mentioning that those two are not great against any of the Elite 4, and by the time you get them they are also not effective against any of the remainder gym leaders. You can trivialize the difficulty of the game past 6th gym, but it also has Elite 4 rematches.>BDSPAlthough it has a lot of modern QoL, it also provides upgrades to the Elite 4 rematches, with it still being as solid as it was in DP. Game also has some extra challenges like the Shadow Giratina boss.>SM & USUMAlthough not that hard, Totem fights are probably harder than most gym leaders in the series, even with Z-moves they are hard to get rid of, usually have stage hazards in their favor especially weather and have omniboosts on top of reinforcements. Mega evolution not present until post-game.>SVVery easy to get over levelled and predictable gyms, however it has a handful of hard fights worth mentioning like Champion Nemona, Sada and Turo, Ogerpon, Drayton, Kieran, and everything that gets updated once the DLC is done averages the lv80
Burgh is honestly quite challenging with just a Servine
It's a tossup between XY and SwShOn one hand, XY quite literally hands the player so many incredible FREE encounters back to back, the bosses are largely a joke, and the regional dex is generally full of incredibly good options. On the other hand, SwSh can be broken open significantly harder than XY, but it requires a decent amount of game knowledge and paying for the DLCI'd ultimately give it to XY since you can literally sleepwalk through that entire game with minimal effort or knowledge. You could literally just make a team out of all the good gift/static encounters and bulldoze your way through. Hell, that's what I did when the game first came out (sans a single Meowstic M)
Objectively XY and LGPE, every other answer is yawnie seething
Servine is Level 28, just beat Burgh, about 3 levels above curve
>>57194385> We can discard gen 1 to 5 as the easiest, seeing as they don't have any friendship derivative mechanics nor easy QoL meant to trivialize the game every single gen 1-5 game is easier than every single gen 7+ game. And gen 5 absolutely does have QoL meant to trivialize the game. Why do you think the game gives you a Lucky Egg for free? Or spams Audino everywhere? Or make the gym leaders and E4 absolutely pathetic and only use 3/4 Pokemon at most?
>>57195250>theyre piss easy because I say so!Image disregarded.You can’t possibly shit on the lucky egg but then cocksuck exp share and pretend it’s not the equivalent of a bunch of lucky eggs, to be forced on you later at that.The audino point can apply to other grindable mons, and the amount of mons the type specialists aren’t a bad thing unless it’s made in an easier way than before, which they aren’t. You wouldn’t want a full team of magikarp to fight against, wouldn’t you? Team COMPOSITION is what matters and no one’s complaining.It’s clear you don’t actually believe what you’re spewing and use different standards for different games so it’s fine if you decide to log off now.
>>57195287>theyre piss easy because I say so!This is every single argument in the thread so far.
>>57195287>B-BUT THE EXP SHAREhas zero relevance to how difficult the game is
>>57195299No, people actually explained why LG is easy. >>57195302Please explain how the exp share doesn't make the game easier but the lucky egg somehow does, Go ahead please.
>>57195351>No, people actually explained why LG is easy.Not really. It just seems like a bunch of people who didn’t actually play the game and are just parroting retarded shit to sound smart.>>57195351>Please explain how the exp share doesn't make the game easierAnon I hate to break this to you but there’s an entire game surrounding the exp share with its own mechanics. The exp share doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Hence why there are dozens of game drastically harder than shit like gen 5 even with a forced exp share. Meanwhile gen 5 threw in the Lucky Egg WITH a bunch of other casualization mechanics and making the bosses SHITTIER, while otherwise remaining the same as before.
>>57195250SMT does not have EXP share for party members that do not participate in battle.
>>57195394Yes it does.
>>57195392>Not reallyYes really. You're just saying "that doesn't count" to sound smart>the exp share doesn't exist in a vacuumThen explain what supposedly cancelled out its effects, which you never do. All the casualization rings you point out in Gne 5, as minor as they are, still exist in games after it, and only exacerbated. Lucky egg became several times worse with exp share, audino grinding in the wild became mini games that EV train you easy too easily, giftmons increased and some had megas, and the smaller teams ACTUALLY became shiftily composed after Gen 5. Please tell me the actual FACTOR that made Gen 5 easy in your eyes that doesn't apply to the games you say are somehow hard now.
>>57195413>You're just saying "that doesn't count"Not really.>Then explain what supposedly cancelled out its effects,The bosses actually having EVs, free stat boosts, 2v1ing you, not making it absurdly easy to overlevel multiple Pokemon, making the game not linear as fuck, and making levels matter less for damage calculation all cancel it out pretty heavily.>still exist in games after itThe difference is that the games after gen 5 are actually balanced.
>>57195413>audino grinding in the wild became mini games that EV train you easy too easilynta but to be wholly honest, i do prefer super training over just not telling the player about EVs at all, since the former gives the player more control over what stats they invest in. you'd barely ever figure out what EVs are if no one ever told you, let alone how to increase the ones you want, outside of vague mentions of "effort" by random judge NPCs, and even then they don't tell you anything about that effort, just "nah you still have EVs you can allocate"now, if you ask me they should have taken this opportunity to start giving trainer mons EVs as well, since after all now that the player has knowledge on how to use a mechanic to their advantage the AI should be using it as well to test how well the player uses it, but i can't recall if they actually ever give trainer mons EVs in ANY game outside of maybe battle facilities
>>57195428>Not really.Yes really. Thats exactly what you did I your post without actually addressing the points, instead pretending they don't exist to save face.>EVs, free stat boosts, 2v1ing youthis is more than canceled out by being much more overlevelled thanks to exp share, plus affection bonuses rendering them worthless>not making it absurdly easy to over level multiple pokemonthis isn't the case in gen 5 but is the case with every exp share game>making the game no linear as fuckevery game after gen 5 is more linear than it with exception to remakes and SV>making levels matter lesselaborate>the games after gen 5 are actually balanced.no they aren't because you're more likely to be over leveled in those and curbstomp the enemies without trying, whereas that isn't the case with gen 5 and previous games
>>57195302see>>57193451
>>57195400Show footage.
>le sagefag line by line greentext nuh uhzzz
>>57195453see >>57195250
>>57195400https://youtu.be/GD36X0fSY3c?si=sEzRFKIel8NYu5ea7:17, only demons that battle get EXP.
>>57195469>posts a completely different gamebased retard
>>57195460see>>57195287Still no factor brought up, huh.
>>57195474We're talking about hard SMT games, right? V isn't hard, so ultimately you posted the wrong image.
Pokémon should not get experience points if they did not experience anything in battle. Simple as.
>>57195486I’ll take your deflection as a concession.>>57195477see >>57195302
>>57195496This. Make it so there’s no point in using more then 1 Pokemon again so I can watch retards seethe over why people play the game with only 1 Pokemon.
>>57195520>deflectionWhere?Also see>>57195413Still can't say the factor, huh
>>57195525There would still be a point. No pokemon's ideal for every situation. Where are you getting this from?
>>57195535>no pokemon is ideal in every situation>therefore I should make a dogshit team entirely made up of weak shitmons that excel in zero situations and surprisedpikachu.jpg when I lose to Whitney
>>57195525Why would I use more than one Pokemon in a game with EXP Share? I don't have to use the Pokemon to level them up, and if you don't play like a retard it's easy to just mash A through every battle with a single Pokemon. To put it a different way, I could probably nearly complete a living Pokedex without using more than 2 Pokemon (one would be for any double battle in the game) in XY. I cannot do the same thing in the previous games without insane amounts of grinding. Similarly, the mechanic also makes the hard Gen 7 titles even easier as more overall EXP makes the benefits of EXP scaling break down a bit (as seen by the time Yawnfag played B2 on Challenge Mode while excessively using the Lucky Egg).
>>57195575>Why would I use more than one Pokemon in a game with EXP Share?Because the bosses are hard enough that it isn’t beatable with a single Pokemon unless that single Pokemon happens to be an exact counter to whatever the boss is. Good fucking luck beating Mela in SV with just Floragato or Araquanid in USUM with just Torracat.
>>57195250Actual troglodyte image. The QoL in question is not just the Exp Share but the Super Training and Hyper Training available as well as the friendship cheese you get access to. Any challenge will get trivialized over this, hence why Gen 1-5 cannot be the easiest.
>>57195559>therefore [boogeyman scenario I just invented]Try again, schizo.>Because the bosses are hard enoughStopped right there. According to you the best way to beat these so called """hard""" bosses is to allocate all exp to one mon to get it as Hugh as possible and steamroll the game. >b-but type matchupsexisted in previous games. There's no argument saying they encourage you to use more mons in newer games but not in old ones. You're using circular logic and saying newer games are harder because of being harder.
>>57195767something that requires excessive grinding isn’t QoL.
>>57195774>something that requires excessive grinding>excessive grinding You're so full of shit it's unreal.
>>57195783>projecting
>>57195786>no argument
>>57195774>something that requires excessive grinding isn’t QoL.This is the dumbest post I've seen in a while, and it's funny because I have this weird gut feeling that it'll ever actually be supported and followed up on. The poster of it will never explain why that somehow doesn't fit the definition of QoL, nor will he ever explain why that's suddenly "excessive grinding". It's almost like he'll say literally anything to shill his shitty narrative.
>>57195801>projecting
>>57195812>no u>spamming>still no argument
BW has casualization QoL because I can grind against Audino for hours on end. Therefore BW is trivialized according to sagefag logic.
>>57195818Now explain how literally anyone employed that logic against your side though.
>>57195817>projecting>again
>>57195826How is that projecting? You're the one spamming and refusing to actually refute arguments, not me
>>57195832>”How is that projecting?”>continues to project>>57195822>gen 6 has [QoL feature that requires grinding to even take advantage of] so it’s trivialized!!>ok then gen 5 has has [QoL feature that requires grinding to even take advantage of] so it’s also trivialized>W-WAIT NO THAT DOESN’T COUNT BECAUSE IT’S A GAME I LIKE!!
>>57195851>continues to projectProve it's projection. You're the only one spamming and literally arguing "no u">QoL feature that requires grinding to even take advantage ofName these and explain how they are grinding or not. You claimed it's grinding in gen 6, so explain how.
>>57195851So which is it, do you want us to call out the features in both games or ignore the features in both games?
>>57195920No point in getting through to him. his whole ethos is based on finding some false equivalency between everything like a schizoid to pretend others' opinion are somehow illegal now.
>>57195771meant for>>57195590 as well half way through by the looks of it
>>57195250The trainers in BW have harder A.I. and many have held items and strong movesets. Lenora's Watchog is a huge difficulty spike, outspeeding almost everything else at the time, almost always OHKOing anything with a STAB Retaliate (Herdier fainted last turn) then proceeding to spam Crunch (a very powerful move for that point.) and Hypnosis for the unprepared. Also out of every Gen 7+ game, USUM was the only one that had any consistent challenge. SWSH was piss easy, BDSP was easy up until the E4, PLA actually was somewhat challenging, however the hard parts were the boss battles where you throw balms, not the actual Pokémon battles. SV was mostly easy with a few somewhat hard battles (mostly because I couldn't decide on a team and kept switching members), specifically, A.I. Professor and Lacey.
>>57196438>The trainers in BW have harder A.I. and many have held items and strong movesetsI don't think we played the same game>Lenora's Watchog is a huge difficulty spike>>57194056
>>57195302It does actually. It statisticaply makes it easier to overlevel. An example is SWSH, without adjusting your team around, you'll likely have multiple party members in the 70s or 80s by the time you fight Leon, assuming no DLC. It's similar in SV as well, without the DLC, it's easy to end up overleveled. Compare that to BW, unless you fight every trainer and wild Pokémon you find with just one Pokémon, you won't end up more than 4-5 levels higher due to the exp formula.
>>57196479>>57195250
>>57193196Yeah, but this upsets third worlders so they'll keep seething until the sun dies.
>>57193416>pokemon are all generally powerful>movesets are busted>easy routes>legendaries available before first gym>hidden abilities forced on you>powerful giftmons>elite 4 lmao
>>57193138>the hardest fight in BW is a watching with hypnosis that you get 3 chesto berries immediately before
>>57195442I bet they aren't gonna reply because they know their arguments have all been invalidated
Which game has easy mode?
>>57196452So? They didn't take into account critical hits, or natures or that the Servine might be weakened from fighting the Herdier. Plus the Watchog is likely to tank a hit or two.Yeah you must've played a rom hack that makes it easier, or you pulled a yawnfag and grinded to get overleveled.
>>57196640Have you ever thought that you're just bad and that normal people don't have any difficulty beating games made for kids?
>>57196514*sigh*The BW exp formula makes it harder to overlevel. Once you get 2-3 levels above the curve (which requires battling every trainer with one mon), it's much more likely to even out later on. If you disagree, go play the game. Plus that image doesn't explain why things are difficult.
who even decided Gen 5 is the easiest when let's go pee is the easiest thanks to multiplayer?
>>57196582That's not necessarily the hardest fight. Any fight in any game can be hard for anyone. Even with the Chesto Berries, there's still Retaliate and Crunch to deal with. I personally find Elesa harder with her Volt Switch spamming.
>>57196660Do you think only being 2 or 3 levels higher matters? The games are easy when you're 15 below.
>>57196676Too bad sandile is so rare and that route 4 is so far from nimbasa.
>>57196648Yes, I have considered it. Have you ever considered the possibility that you haven't even played the game and just think it's easy for kids?I'm a fucking babysitter, little kids, believe it or not, tend to struggle with Pokémon. I've babysat so many Pokémon kids.
>>57196452>no argument except “you’re just bad” and faulty numbers that were addressed>>57196514Again, you’re insisting on the difficulty of games just because you say so. That’s not an argument.>>57196560Okay samefag>>57196572>half lies, other half applies to everythingSure, retard.>>57196648>you’re just badNot an argument >>57196681Except they aren’t. This whole time you’re just insisting they’re easy just like this without any support whatsoever.
>>57196700>Have you ever considered the possibility that you haven't even played the game and just think it's easy for kids?What in the schizo is this no u? Of course I've played them. Several I've played as an adult and a child. Sorry you're as smart as the people you babysit, but normal people aren't that dumb.
>>57196698Ah, so the game does encourage you to use a team. I get you.
>>57196705>if I respond to every post that means I'm rightBrowns lmao
>>57196712Of course I’ve played themEvidently not since you keep demonstrating you haven’t in many ways
>>57196681Easy when 15 levels below? Have you actually tried it? It's basically impossible. Everything outspeeds and oneshots you anyway. May as well be Level 1.>>57196698I know that's Sarcasm but Sandile can't even deal much damage to the Emolga, it is immune to the electric moves, but it can't super effectively hit Emolga without significant overleveling, and none of it's Dark moves (assuming average IVs, EVs and a neutral nature) can OHKO, usually taking at least three hits.
>>57196718No one said that, but I did refute those posts. The longer you don’t respond to those responses, the more you lose. That’s a blatant dodge right there.
>>57196721>if I get outsped once and have to click my move 3 times that makes it hardYou probably don't use items and think that makes you smart.
>>57196712I guess that means about 80% of the Pokémon fanbase is stupid then, and that makes you a genius. How's it feel being a genius?
>>57196730Source on those numbers? Or are you just trying to make it seem like being that retarded is normal?
>>57196728After being outsped being fifteen under, your mom’s likely dying before attacking. Sorry you’re just inventing shit at this point.
>>57196736You have never played a single pokemon game if you think being 15 levels below will lead to you being one shot.
>>57196728Inever said I didn't use items, nor did I imply that anywhere. I use them whenever necessary. If I have a held item I can use, I'll give it to someone. If I need to use an X Item at the start of a battle, I'll use it. My Pokémon is low on health? I'll use a Potion.The only times I don't use my items, are if I'm out, or doing a challenge run.
>>57196734>playing retarded is normal and playing normal is retardedYou’ll never convince nobody of this crap
>>57196741In many cases it will, because opponents can be of many different types, which by your playstyle can’t be dealt with since you only use one mon. Sorry you’re a retard while claiming others are.
>The games are easy when you’re 15 belowOh wow, another unsupported assertion that will never see proof.
>>57196747>which by your playstyle can’t be dealt with since you only use one monWhy can unovafags only argue against some made up amalgamation of everyone that's ever insulted them?
>>57196734It's more of an estimate based on heavily analyzing the online community. I've checked 4chan, YouTube, Reddit, Serebii Forums, Bulbagarden, SerenesForest (a Fire Emblem site but there's a lot of Pokémon posts), and GameFaqs. Go to any of those communities, make a poll asking them which gen is the hardest or easiest. Or ask them if there's any difficulty whatsoever in Pokémon.
>I'm a babysitter, trust me bro I know difficulty and intelligencekek
>>57196751It’s just you anon. Not one other soul believes in your delusions. Also, where’s your argument?
>>57196755That's crazy because I've looked at almost all those sites too, and unova is generally regarded as easy. But what do I know, I'm apparently retarded for not needing to be 5 levels higher than NPCs.
>>57196756>the professional who deals with kids most directly knows about kidsshocker You probably haven’t even seen a kid in years.
>>57196761>team of legendaries before first gymBut because you've never played the games this is apparently a lie.
>>57196765>unova is generally regarded as easyGo ahead and post proof or you made it up.>invents strawman after accusing others of doing so kekaroo
>>57196769>I'm around kids all day every day and think on their level>this makes me smartYou're a fucking loser that babysits. You couldn't even be assed to pretend you're a teacher or anything actually useful.
>>57196771Anon are you okay?
>>57196777I was answering for that anon. Why are you putting words in other peoples mouths? The point isn’t “thinking on their level”, it’s conversing and knowing their opinion on how hard Pokemon games are. A teacher would never see their pupil playing Pokemon games like a babysitter would. Are you that disconnected from reality to not understand this?
>>57196775>Go ahead and post proof or you made it upWhy? You haven't done that, and when anons do post proof you just go full brownskin and say no.
>>57196784>little kids agree with me so that makes me rightbased babysitter
>>57196612Unovafags btfo and silent
>>57196786>you haven’t done thatYou just pulled a statement out of your ass as your argument. Go ahead and prove it or you lied>>57196791If it’s an argument about if kids find it hard or easy, I think a kid’s opinion is the ONLY answer to that.>>57196795Even that easy mode is harder then nugen games despite being optional
>>57196828How do you expect people to prove this stuff to you? No one is going to play through an entire game just to prove some guy on 4chan wrong.
>>57196876You cited a community opinion, not something in game. Go ahead and prove it or you made it up.
>>57196891>You cited a community opinionI didn't post this >>57196755
>>57196893No but you posted this>>57196765It’s quite easy anon, just post ANYTHING or you made it up.
>>57196904>reeeee prove itYou first lmao. You are having a crazy autism fit right now over one board on 4chan finding a video game east.
>>57196913https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/12nn357/all_pok%C3%A9mon_games_easiest_to_hardest/https://gamerant.com/easiest-pokemon-games/https://www.si.com/videogames/features/pokemon-games-ranked-difficultyhttps://nuzlockeforums.com/forum/threads/beginner-friendly-pokemon-games.21970/https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-every-game-ranked-difficulty/Have fun.
Is this true from the other thread?>BW2 on launch gave you a free Genesect. If you played the easy 3DS minigame you would also get Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus with your OT in the starting town. If you owned any DS games, then through the same method you would also have access to each of their respective box legendaries (with hidden abilities, which matters a lot for the HGSS ones at least).You could legitimately have a team of Genesect, regenerator Ho-oh, Palkia, and Lando-T before reaching the catching tutorial.
>>57196922Still doesn't change my opinion.
>>57196964You’re allowed to have you opinion. Fortunately that’s all it’s relegated to.>>57196925I know they distributed them but I’m pretty sure you can’t receive them that early.
>>57196765I'm looking at them now, it's regarded as easy with some difficulty spikes. I don't need to be overleveled nor did I imply it. Usually I can handle the games just fine either at or just below. The point was, that it's easiest to overlevel in the games with Exp Share, in particular anything after LGPE because they removed the option to turn it off, which I will never understand (I swear if it's like "What if a kid accidentally turns it off and makes the game too hard")
>>57196771It's hard to get legendaries before the first gym in Gen 5. Only ones you can hypothetically get regularly are the Dream Radar ones, but back in the day, that was a seperate purchase (plus digital only, which most kids can't just do.). Dream Radar is also exclusive to the 3DS, which not every kid would have access to. It's also an online download which most kids probably didn't have access to as back then, parents either had no internet, or they severely limited it. Dream Radar is also very time consuming, without mods, it'll likely take a couple days just to get Tornadus (though iirc you can use play coins to get more of those dream clouds or whatever, but that requires effort and kids tend to be lazy or willing to find a shortcut). Plus it's quite hard. Took me about three tries for Tornadus the first time I played it.
>>57196925You get mystery gifts once you get your dex so that’s like the second city? Been a while
>>57193138>be like 9, playing gen 2 in 2000>traded 6 level 100 pokemon like 3 gym badges into Johto>steamrolled the entire game i thought i was so fucking clever
>>57196784Yeah. A teacher would see a student playing games in class and either ask them to put their game away, or they'll confiscate it.
>>57196987>an opinion is a relegationYou have autism lol
>>57196876There was an anon playing through Blck with only a Snivy to prove they won't end up more than a few levels over
>>57197114Um….yeah ? It’s no more than just an opinion.
>>57196922>I-it doesn't c-count!HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>57197197>>doesn’t countWho are you quoting? When did I say anything remotely similar to this?
>>57196665Idk why people keep ignoring this about lgpe, this puts it over the edge imo
>>57197341I've never played LGPE, though it does make sense being one of the easier games due to it intentionally being marketed towards GO players.
>>57197118He's gone tho
>>57197452The point was still proven ?
>>57193138>What game would you say is the easiestbw2
>>57197496Doesn't matter. Yawnie isn't trying to have a real debate, so he will never concede anything. He will just move goalposts, parrot nonsensically, make shit up, or just ignore anything he doesn't like. At least this godforsaken thread has been abandoned, but he'll be here tomorrow somewhere else
>>57197602Explain why. Everyone else who gave an answer explained why they think that.
>>57197496No it wasn't. He lost to Lenora like a retard from wasting exp and then stopped posting as soon as it would be obvious the level curve was going to overlevel him, kek
>>57197602fuck i misread, meant the hardest
>>57197636stop pretending to be me. bw2 is the easiest game
>>57197633>wasting exp How?>>57197644See>>57197615
>>57197633Actually they never did waste any exp. If they're correct, they battled every trainer that was available to them. They were level 20, almost 21 when they fought Lenora. Just because they've stopped posting doesn't mean they've, well, stopped posting. They also never said they won't ever get overleveled. Just that, they won't be any more than 4-5 levels above at any one time.
I'd say either LGPE or XY for reasons already mentioned.
>>57193138BW and BW2
>>57198753Please give explanations as to why.
>>57193168>>57193225pseudo-replying without a (You) is still giving a post attention
>>57198826The explanations were already posted.
>>57198959No, they were just insisted to be the easiest without saying why.
>>57198959I've looked through the thread, can't find any that actually apply yawnie.
>>57198742No, they were just insisted to be the easiest without saying why.
>>57199075Was that the last thread then? I remember multiple people mentioning incomplete movesets, piss easy ai, too much experience and in LGPE's case, no option to even turn the EXP Share off.
>>57198976Was that the last thread then? I remember multiple people mentioning terrible movesets, piss easy ai, too much experience and constant free exp and healing.
>>57199265thinking lgpe gives too much experience is just evidence you didn’t actually play lgpe and you’re just an NPC parroting what redditors told you
>>57199334I've played it. Catching gives tons of experience, and what is the whole gimmick of the game? Catching tons of Pokémon.
>>57199334Thinking it doesn't is evidence you haven't played it, and are just ignoring the collective experiences and knowledge of other players, because you can't admit you're wrong. Try harder yawnie.
>>57199360>if I grind I get tons of expKEK
>>57199385That's literally the intended way to play the game. You're meant to catch shit. Why include that feature, and market it as the game's big feature, if you don't intend for people to spend a lot of time doing it.
>>57199371>the collective experiences and knowledge of other playersi.e. “I haven’t actually played the game myself but I parrot what other people told me like a good little NPC”
>>57199403Nah it means I played and enjoyed the game and decided to see what other people thought and realized a lot of them thought the same.
>>57193138I rolled over BW so easily I don't even remember most of it. XY was also pretty easy but more memorable. It's hard to judge gens after that because I stopped caring about building a balanced team and just started spamming bugs and rocks which made things a lot harder from gen 7 up.
>>57199302>parotting when it doesn’t applyIt was explained why XY and LG were easy, but not BW>>57199413Honestly surprising as a standout experience. Can you please post some more? I’m not demanding proof I’m just curious about your particular playing experience.
>>57200152>free genesect>other free legendaries before gym 1>easy mode>easy routes>strong dex>healers on every route>weak gyms and elite 4>strong giftmons>strong items>rivals are weak and constantly give you the exact item you need to beat the next thing
>>57200152Why are you surprised when most people itt are saying that BW is easy?
>>57200159>free mythical like every game>other legends were addressed>easy mode was never proven to actually be easier than any other game>easy routes were never substantiated>every fed has strongmons and weakmons, and every has at least six strongmons anyway, so this doesn’t mean anything >healers don’t make it easier they just save time to backtrack, heal at pokecenter, and come back>weak gyms and e4 was never substantiated>string giftmons aren’t even any stronger than others game’s giftmons>strong items how is this different from any other game?>rivals are stronger than many other game’s rivals>give an example of this or its unsubstantiated >>57200172A couple guys repeated and baiting aren’t most people. I’m open to a free dialogue but that just hasn’t happened hey and you can tell by how people speak if they want one.
>>57200187>nuh uh>doesn't count>unsubstantiatedYou have autism. Nothing you've said has been proven either but you'll just keep ignoring that. And other games also being easy doesn't make gen 5 not the easiest.
>>57200226>no rebuttalNice concession.Those weren’t nuh uhs. They were pointing out that you can’t just say shit without having some proof. Meanwhile, the other criticism was given and not adequately addressed despite being very in depth.
>>57200226>Nothing you've said has been provenIt actually was if you read the thread>other games also being easy doesn't make gen 5 not the easiest.right but you haven’t actually proved Gen 5’s the easiest to begin with. If your reasons for thinking so apply to other games, and those other games have elements making them easier than BW that BW doesn’t have, surely it can’t be the easiest
Facts about gen 5>you can have an entire team of legendaries/mythicals before gym 1>your rival gives you multiple chesto berries to counter lenora>there are healers on multiple routes>there is an easy mode>the gym leaders and elite 4 use 4 or less pokemon>the first gym changes types to he weak against the first gift pokemon you get
>>57200249That first one needs proof but, while the rest are true, they aren’t exactly things that make the game easier.Lenora is still difficult with the berries because you’ll run out of them before she runs out of PPThe healers don’t make anything easier perse, especially when almost all games have healing items littered in every cave. It just makes manually backtracking less commonSure there am ways mode but you could just not use it ? It’s only usable after beating the whole games already, and even then who says it’s actually easier than other games? You’re also ignoring the challenge mode.The amount of Pokemon used doesn’t dictate difficulty at all.The first gym I’ll give you but it’s literally just the first gym, so I would say “not a big deal” to overall game difficulty but that specific phrase is a no no on here.I know I might be coming across as some smug bastard so please don’t take offense. If you were just listing things innocently I get it, but it’s the “therefore” that others make that I’m thinking about.
>>57200296>That first one needs proofNot even reading further. You don't play or even research the games you so adamantly defend.
>>57200296>Lenora is still difficult with the berries because you’ll run out of them before she runs out of PPHit them, get put to sleep, wake up, and ko. Not hard. Easy.>The healers don’t make anything easier perseNo, but combined with everything else they certainly do. You don't know what per se means if you argue this one further>even then who says it’s actually easier than other games? You’re also ignoring the challenge mode.Me, and challenge mode is literally irrelevant.>The amount of Pokemon used doesn’t dictate difficulty at all.It does when you aren't fighting six magikarp.>The first gym I’ll give you but it’s literally just the first gym, so I would say “not a big deal”Everyone is aware of your autistic standards. You don't need to explicitly say so.>I know I might be coming across as some smug bastard You wish it was coming across as smug babastard. It's more autistic than that.
>>57200152> Honestly surprising as a standout experiencethat’s most people’s experience there’s a reason XY got better reception than BW.
>>57200454You completely invented that and it’s wrong.See>>57196922>>57200314Sorry but not everyone knows everything about everything. Show it’s possible or you lied.>>57200336Your first point doesn’t work because if the way turns work. Using the berry takes a turn, and you’ll be out to sleep in the next turn.>combined with everything elseNow that’s a copout. It doesn’t make anything easier just decreases the retreading.>meSo you have no proof>challenge mode is irrelevant If by your logic the easiest game is the one with easy mode, surely it’s also the hardest of it has challenge mode? You can’t have it both ways.>it doesn’t except when it doesn’t If you really believed this Necrozma would be the easiest fight, but it isn’t. You haven’t actually said anything to prove the gym leaders and elite fours are any easier >autistic standardsHow so? This isn’t an argument>it’s more autistic than thatThen I don’t know what to tell you if you think anyone who disagrees with you suddenly has autism.
>>57200477>You completely invented that
>>57200487Now show me where it says it was difficult. Your one source against my six is still nothing.
>>57200493Anyone with > 50 IQ found both equally easy.
>>57200477>If by your logic the easiest game is the one with easy mode, surely it’s also the hardest of it has challenge mode? Autists lmao if x is true then surely the opposite is also true. You're so fucking dumb.
>>57200477>you think anyone who disagrees with you suddenly has autism.Do you really think that's why people call you autistic? Or could it be more due to the FACT that you have autism.
>>57200572Ah, so you're backpedaling and saying everything easy or nothing easy. That's another way to say "I failed arguing, so I'll render the discussion pointless because I can't handle the other guy having a point"Your one source against my six is still nothing.>>57200576>if x is trueyou haven't proved this part. All you said is "it has the word easy so it's easy lmao". Logically speaking the mode that does the opposite has the opposite effect.>muh factProve it. How am I autistic? Go ahead and tell everyone what indicated that to you.
>>57200621meant for>>57200589 at the end there
>>57200621>Go ahead and tell everyone what indicated that to you.You have a weird need to defend a game you like on 4chan, you can't separate facts from opinions, you can't tell anons apart, you reply to every post that even tangentially shits on unova, you constantly ask for sources and evidence while providing none of your own, you think your anecdotes are more relevant than other peoples, etc.
>>57200621>everything easyNo, just Gen 5. Posting other people as stupid as yourself isn’t an argument.
>>57200642>other gens are harderYou're bad and stupid lol
>>57200635>you're the problem with anythingSorry it's controversial discussing pokemon and preferring a region. You literally made the rest up. You have no sources, and I don't need a source to point that out. I dislike the anecdote way of arguing but it was your camp's deflection so I argued on those grounds. Now you're backpedaling and saying it doesn't matter.This is getting tiring anon. Post proof or kys>>57200642>I failed arguing, so I'll render the discussion pointless because I can't handle the other guy having a point
