>>57198816
RBY is good
GSC is good
RSE is good
DPPt is good
BW/BW2 is bad
XY is good
SM/USUM is good
SS is good
SV is good

>>57198823
This but the opposite

>borts making every single low effort genwar thread
woah didnt see that one coming

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>>57198816
as that kind of unovafag who has the physical copy of all 4 games + guides + soundtrack + cards, two things:
1). gimmick accounts were a mistake
2). BW1 has the best story in the franchise and BW2 is a top 3 game for content alone but pokemon didn't die after gen 5

>>57198833
Are you high? It’s the fact that the anti-borts have been insanely loud this week.

>>57198816
>>57198823
RBY is mid. Too glitchy, boring designs.
GSC is good. Fixed a lot of RBY's flaws. Only major complaint is the lackluster Kanto section and the weird level curve.
RSE is good. Simple game, love the dex. It's where the series started to form it's own identity in terms of music.
FRLG is just RBY but better in pretty much every way
DPPt pretty decent. Diamond and Pearl are practically unplayable, while Platinum is pretty decent, it fixed some of the main flaws, such as the game speed.
HGSS, much better than Gold and Silver, somewhat better than Crystal. Slightly better level curve and Pokémon availability and Kanto is more than a backyard.
BW, this, in my opinion is where they peaked in terms of music. It's also where they began to actually try with storytelling.
B2W2 literally has the most side content of any main series game. Introduced the concept of legendaries fusing.
XY was the jump to 3D, a bold move. Decent music and story, started the trend of there only being a small number of new Pokémon. Also the start of the series goung overboard with making things easier. Imo the easiest in the series. It also started another trend. Generational battle gimmicks, Mega Evolution was fun.
ORAS was fun. I liked it wish it was a little harder. But it was so fun, the music was all remade perfectly......except the Gym Leader battle theme.
SM introduced a new, colorful region and some cool Pokémon. Somewhat lackluster.
USUM was like SM but with much more content and much harder campaign.
LGPE was really easy but also fun. Best Kanto experience.
SWSH without DLC it's mid, with DLC it's decent.
BDSP, let's not talk about this shitshow.
PLA, I loved the change of pace. Felt somewhat challenging.
SV, similar to SWSH, except with the DLC, it's quite good.
PLZ-A, great story and music, I loved that new Mega that they gave to that Pokémon.

>>57198816
gen1 good
gen2 great
gen 3 the best
gen 4 great
gen 5 great
gen 6 meh
gen 7 unplayable dogshit
gen 8 lmao
pla fun but empty overrated tech demo
gen 9 didn't play

I like them all to varying degrees except sun and moon that I hate

Gen 1 ok
Gen 2 good
Gen 3 good
Gen 4 good
Gen 5 good
Gen 6 shit
Gen 7 ok
Gen 8 shit
PLA good
Gen 9 ok

gen 1 for the times was a cool concept and cool game, unplayable

gen 2 was overall cool, expanded what was done in gen 1 with some nice stuff, crystal solved many problems of GS and offered a fantastic experience (playing at night is absolutely great), too bad Johto felt too short as a region and many of its pokemon are almost hidden (just look at how many people thought that skarmory, houndoom etc. were Hoenn mons)

gen 3 is probably peak in terms of setting, Hoenn is a great region with the best routes you can get, route 120/121 is a masterpiece in route design, music is fantastic, dex is great

gen 4 is to gen 3 what 2 was to 1, cool setting but lacked the strong identity and sense of adventure of Hoenn, had nonetheless a great story and lore, dex was overall nice but with too many evolutions of previous gens, could've spread it in the following gens imho

gen 5 is good but suffers from being a reboot, forgetting too many things of the past, which unfortunately lead the following gen to do a radical 360 and pander too much to the previous gens. music is cool, but region is really weak, BW2 have many side activities that are better even than gen 3 ones

anything past gen 5 is utter garbage, maybe I can save PLA for at least trying to offer something new, even if it clearly needed some polish

>>57198823
My favorite /vp/ trope is hating on gen 5, unironically. The seethe is funny and quite refreshing after years of "holy trinity" reddit spam.

>>57200334
The seethe is boring. They just go no u and then say but what about this other game. Unovafags are uncreative and stupid and it explains why they think it has a good story.

>>57198816
Red & Blue: Great
Yellow: Okay
Gold & Silver: Redundant
Crystal: Good
Ruby & Sapphire: Redundant
Emerald: Very Good
Diamond & Pearl: Redundant
Platinum: Fantastic
HeartGold: Fantastic
SoulSilver: Terrible
Black 1 & White 1: Great
Black 2 & White 2: Fantastic
X & Y: Pretty Good
Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire: Very Great
Sun & Moon: Good
Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon: Very Great
Let's Go: Fine
Sword & Shield: Not Great
Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl: Redundant
Legends Arceus: Fantastic

Haven't played Scarlet & Violet, waiting to see if the games have improved performance on the NS2.

>>57200413
>the remake of a redundant game isn't redundant
Stick to portugese

>>57200413
GS and RuSa are redundant because Crystal/Emerald and their remakes are both better than the original pair.

>>57200410
Actually that’s what happens in innocent Unova threads. Having those is illegal, so other region names are injected in genwarringly.

>>57200453
What a victim complex. Get over yourself and make a thread if you want. No one cares.

>>57200459
I would but it’d be infested by the likes of you. Only newfags deny this.

>>57200481
There are unova related threads right now that are simply discussing whatever the op posted. Stop being such a fucking bitch lmao

>>57200505
The only one I see is discussing Kyurem, and even a form that doesn’t exist right now. None are discussing unova as a whole. But even then it’s an exception. There’s a thread that brought up ice types and the retard couldn’t help himself but to point out the unova one and call it ugly. There is an anti unova shitpost-base all over her whether you’re part of it or not.

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RBY fucking sucked. The toyline, cards, Stadium, and the anime was what did the heavy lifting at the time
GSC was where Pokemon truly clicked with me. Stadium 2 was kino.
RSE required a bit of warming up to. Colosseum and Gale of Darkness still are the best 3D Pokemon games
FRLG was only good for the Sevii Islands. But this was also around the time I discovered ROMhacks so I was probably getting greedy
DP was ass but Pt fixed a lot of my gripes. Battle Revolution was Stadium but worse.
HGSS is the quintessential Pokemon game
BW & B2W2 are great
XY is heartbreakingly boring. No idea what it is but it just didn't click with me.
I hated ORAS when it came out, but BDSP was so bad that I realized that I treated it too harshly
SM/USUM would be good if not for all the textdump "cutscenes"
Didn't play Let's Go but fwiw I like how PokeGo throws shinies and legendaries at you. This kills the soft resetters and Masuda Methodfaggots.
Swishy Swoosh & Legends Arceus are great
SV is heartbreak incarnate. Really needed more time in the oven
Pokepark was cute
PokeDash or Trozei should've come bundled with a mainline title. They were so whatever I barely remember them.
Conquest is a great babby's intro to SRPGs
Don't care about Ranger or Mystery Dungeon.

>>57200334
I miss the era of /vp/osting where anon had a boiling hatred towards gen 3. We don't see much of that anymore since these nu-/vp/ reddit tourists all started with gen 4.

>edicion blanca 2

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>>57198816
Only for the main games.

RBY: not good
GSC: good
RSE: good
FRLG: excellent
DPP: very good
HGSS: sovl
BW: good
B2W2: very good (best unova experience)
XY: meh (it's growing on me each time I replay it)
ORAS: very good
SM: excellent
USUM: very good
SWSH: good
BDSP: meh (I wanted it to be good so bad)
PLA: very good
SV: did not play it yet.

That's pretty much it.

>>57200515
There's a thread that hit image limit of some guys unova oc and not a single genwar comment in the whole thread. Are you blind in addition to being a little bitch?

>>57200563
>unova oc
this is the most loose term I have ever seen. The thread isn't about Unova in any sense whatsoever. It's a comic with unova mons in it. That's not the threads that I'm referring to.

>>57200575
It's literally a unova thread. I don't care that you want to keep moving the goalposts here. You're wrong and a little bitch that likes playing the victim.

>>57200582
Oh so a cooler thread about a unova character is definitely equivalent to the unova discussion threads I referred to that actually discuss unova.

What I'm complaining about is the inability of this board to discuss unova without devolving. You're not proving anything by pointing to threads with the slightest hint of unova. That's not enough from a logical standpoint and anyone can see this. If your favorite region, let's say, was allowed to have its mons appear in comics and that's it, but you couldn't have threads discussing the existence of the region without being nuked, you'd understandably be pretty down about it as well. This isn't controversial.

>unova, sinnoh, and hoenn are actually all part of unova

>>57200597
>cooler
coomer*, sorry

>RBY
Unpolished messes, but still pretty fun in its own way.
>GSC
I remember falling in love with all of new mechanics they added, even the small ones like the radio or phone. Not perfect, but felt as if they were trying to break more into the idea of Pokemon as a world instead of just a game.
>RSE
One of those games I grew to appreciate more as I got older. I was mainly disappointed there wasn't more of it, because I did enjoy what I played. Emerald is really high up there.
>DP
Too fucking slow, but the game content itself isn't bad.
>HGSS
Suffers from gen 4 engine, but I still love it.
>BW
Not a fan, just felt too linear in some points and too much stuff I wanted to use was late in the game and evolved at some ungodly level.
>B/W2
Enjoyed it a lot more than the first for some reason.
>XY
Fine enough.
>SM
Also fine, 3DS era overall just felt okay.
>SWSH
One of the worst games I've ever played. I hate this game from the bottom of my soul.
>PLA
Felt like a decent proof of concept, could use more work but the base itself isn't bad.
>SV
Has a lot of problems. It can be fun at points but both performance issues and certain mechanics drag it down.

>>57200597
>but you couldn't have threads discussing the existence of the region without being nuked
The complex grows

>>57200610
That's right though. Unova discussion is almost illegal here.

>>57200632
I don't get this new angle you guys are working but I hope it works out.

Bro is new

>>57200632
Gen 5 isn't even canon. Why are you getting so worked up over what's essentially an officially sanctioned fangame?

Borts are so pathetic.

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>>57200637
It's not a new phenomenon I've seen it for years.
>>57200645
Haha le noncanon meme so funny.

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>>57200656
It's so noncanon that they couldn't even be bothered to include every Unovamon in the latest gen kek

>>57200674
So only Paldea is canon? God you're so stupid.

>>57200681
Whatever you have to tell yourself anon

>>57200734
You brought up canonicity, not me. It's your cope.

>>57198816
>RB
Phenomenal for their time, but by modern standards really only fun for challenge runs or ROM hacks.
>Y
Fun as a kid, again, great for its time; no real reason to replay it over the base game.
>GS
Phenomenal for their time.
>C
Fixes a handful of the problems GS had with item availability. If you're replaying Gen 2 you're probably using this or a ROM hack based on this.
>RS
Good for their time. Not being able to trade up my Pokemon from Gen 2 was a little disappointing.
>FRLG
Good for their time. It was fun getting to replay Gen 1, but with the "modern" engine. Still good for ROM hacks.
>Colo/XD
Fun, but also limited and disappointing because it makes me wish more games had all doubles.
>E
The definitive Gen 3 experience that brings together everything up until that point. Still worth replaying as is or a ROM hack.
>DP
Good for their time and by modern standards.
>Pt
The beginning of the peak of the series. It took everything good from the games before it and put it together into one game.
>HGSS
The continuation of the peak of the series. It took everything good from the games before it and built on it.
>BW
The continuation of the peak of the series. It took everything good from the games before it and built on it. Being forced to use all new Pokemon before postgame added a fun and unique experience to the game.
>BW2
The continuation of the peak of the series. It took everything good from the games before it and built on it. It's sad to think we'll probably never get a set of games this good again.
>XY
A huge step down in quality that at the time could be forgiven, having just completed a multi-year span of 10/10 games, and this being their first 3D game. "Surely they'll fix it in Z version."
>ORAS
They didn't fix it, they just made it worse.
>SM
The games continued to trend down. By comparison to SM, XY were actually "good" despite being shit.

>>57200740
>cope
Sorry anon I don't speak brainrot

>>57200771
>no argument
"brainrot" is a more brainrot-ty term than cope

>>57200768
>USUM
The games continued to trend down. By comparison to USUM, SM were actually "good" despite being shit. Having to replay hours of unskippable cutscenes just to get to the breadcrumbs of new "content" was unforgivable.
>SwSh
The games continued to trend down. By comparison to SwSh, USUM were actually "good" despite being shit. The dexcut was unforgivable. No matter how bad the games were getting, at least they maintained backwards compatibility. Now even that was gone.
>SV
The games continued to trend down. By comparison to SV, SwSh were actually "good" despite being shit. At least SwSh ran at a cool 15-20fps. SV were flat out released unfinished.

>>57200778
>implying we're arguing
Not everything's an argument, Redditanon. I'm just saying nonsense to keep myself occupied before work.

>>57198816
>RBY: OK, but very glitchy. Should be played at least once to see how the series began.
>GSC: Damn great games, don't let the haters say otherwise. Improved over Gen 1, and filled with so many soulful details.
>RSE: Ruby and Sapphire were fine, but Emerald is where the series really started to shine, with the Battle Frontier providing an alternative to the Tower.
>FRLG: RBY but better in nearly every way. Only thing missing is the "edge" that RBY had, but the Sevii Islands and Gen 2 and 3 Pokémon more than make up for it. (Aside from the fact that they're locked behind the postgame)
>DP: Fine, I guess. Never played Platinum so I can't give a proper opinion about it.
>HGSS: Used to say this was the peak (and it's still very high up there), but after playing GSC, I honestly prefer the originals for giving the player more agency. That and the 8-bit style is incredibly soulful. Still, the Battle Frontier (which was copypasted from Platinum) was great. There's a reason this is the gold (pun unintended) standard of Pokémon remakes.
>BW: Great game. Honestly, I appreciate the decision to make you exclusively use new Pokémon a lot more now than I did when this was new. And the increased focus in storytelling and characterization is nice.
>B2W2: Another great game. Easily has the most side content of any Pokémon game, and it genuinely feels like I'm discovering new things about it every time I play.
>XY: The beginning of the end. The music is great, and some routes actually look great, but the games are incredibly easy with loads of casualization features (though Super Training was a great way to EV train. I will die on that hill.) and pointless gimmicks that will inevitably get cut. On it's own, it's pretty good. Compared to what came before, the cracks start to show.
Everything onward just kept getting worse, aside from PLA, which was actually fresh.

>>57198835
>BW1 has the best story in the franchise
i played BW1 for the first time less than 3 weeks ago and this couldn't be anymore wrong. Either you guys are overhyping a shit story or the state of mainline pokemon plot is so extremely fucking bad that it makes BW1 looks okay in comparaison; kinda like Sonic games logic
>BW2 is a top 3 game for content alone
agree with this one though

>>57200908
what if you just didn't like it and that doesn't mean it's inherently shit?

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>>57200921
i said the exact opposite.

>>57200924
I was predicting the oncoming flood of annoying retards who will try to argue with you

>>57200944
Thanks, sorry i’ve always seen that pic used against positive opinions, that i automatically see it as negative (my bad)

>>57200820
Fair enough but I wasn't arguing either, at least not any more than you were.
>reddit
fuck them

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>>57200913
It's fundamentally not a good story
The idea of "is making pokémon fight each other abuse?" can make for an interesting story except you need to take into account that IF that is the case then the gameplay or the setting of pokémon would take a massive overhaul which was never gonna fucking happen
putting that aside, almost all NPC's in the game tells you and keeps reaffirming you that pokémons and humans belong with each other and even your fucking pokémons do to N because it's such a non issue
Making Ghetsis cartoonishly 4kids evil is such a blow to what's left of the story integrity like why the fuck would you have your second scene with team plasma be about them abusing pokémon, completely invalidating the main message of the game? I'm aware that N and some members of team plasma genuinely believes in pokémon liberation but then by the end of the game you find out that N only developed his world views because he was being sheltered and manipulated his whole life instead of being a problem that could have genuinely plagued the pokémon world which fucks it all up even harder
Not only that, but team plasma believes they can manipulate people into giving their pokémon when they spend the ENTIRE game troubling townspeople left and right, like the first NPC you speak to in driftveil city tells you that team plasma stole their pokémon and it's not the only time they do stupid shit like that in broad daylight so the fact that the game treats this as "people will definitely let go of their pokémons!" is actual bullshit, bar maybe for east Unova
when the game ended with N flying away and epic music started blasting it might have been the most dissociative experience ive had in a while
the game blatantly just isn't interested at adressing the issue
i feel like people got tricked by the fancy effects and music and don't have much of an idea how barebone the actual story is. i do give GF props, they tried not rehashing R/S/E but they should've cooked more

>>57201090
I think this was expanded upon in the sequels. It's confirmed N had a. point, and if Hilbert didn't defeat N and Plasma was successful, Hugh purloin would have been still with them and not mind controlled by a poke ball. It was implied it would have returned to them and plasma had. point all along, just that we aren't ready for a change away from pokeballs. Essentially that pokeballs are somewhat wrong but there's no good alternative NOW, but we can all build towards better tomorrows.
I think this summarizes what I'm saying the best because it pointed it out pretty nicely to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yALEg2g_KKY

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>>57201109
everything you said it's true, but that doesn't make a bad narrative
>I'm aware that N and some members of team plasma genuinely believes in pokémon liberation but then by the end of the game you find out that N only developed his world views because he was being sheltered and manipulated his whole life instead of being a problem that could have genuinely plagued the pokémon world which fucks it all up even harder
Exactly, if N had grown up normally and still had that ideal, the resolution would feel disappointing, but since he grew up in such a distorted environment, it’s satisfying to see his beliefs crumble as he gradually realizes the world isn’t black and white, his perspective isn’t as valid as ours because of his upbringing, and by the end of BW1 and during BW2, he starts understanding the world as it truly is, seeing abuse isn’t inherent but part of a gray reality. saying BW questions Pokémon battles is kinda misleading imo
from BW2:
N: "Compared to them... What was I doing? What I really should have done was tell people about how Pokémon feel...! The legendary Dragon-type Pokémon knew that. It has lived long and known many people. It knew humans and Pokémon have lived and will live together. It knew that in this relationship, humans' actions have an enormous impact on Pokémon. That's why it helps the one who searches for truth... the one who opens the way to the future."

>>57201109
>>57201178
I do remember BW2 actually giving the story some nuance with the pokéballs stuff so thanks for reminding me
however even if it the game tells you that pokéballs are morally ambiguous theres never gonna be "better tomorrows" because as i said earlier that would imply a massive change in the game formula and NOT even in g5 or any pokémon mainline was that ever gonna happen
so in the end you end up with a game that basically create "issues" that will never be adressed because pokémon is just not the franchise for something grandiose like that
then you have all the following pokémons games being like "yeah dw pokémons like this shit" on top of having pokemons be able to leave their pokéballs when they want sometime?? and it just hits you again that GF does not care about Pokémon liberations stories because they will keep telling you over and over again that pokémons are actually fine with it, even in BW1/2
Maybe the follow up isn't inherently a problem with BW2 but even when the games came out it should've been obvious that there was never going to be a resolution because that's just not how things work; thus why it's basically a "non-issue: the story"
I do think it should've pushed GF to be more creative with their stories and that despite all that it was a step in the right direction but then they immediately backtracked
gay ass franchise

>>57201109
>It's confirmed N had a. point,
where
>and not mind controlled by a poke ball
Poke Balls don’t mind control Pokemon. This is a fanfic you literally just made up.

>>57201214
I mean hey look on the bright side. This franchise is going no where. You think we will never get BW3 in the far future in, say, the next fifty years? I know these are weird terms to think in but it's certainly coming before then.

>>57201243
>where
By it being proven that pokeballs cause suffering
>fanfic
Then why didn't Hugh's Liepard come to him?

Have you even played the games?

>>57201214
with "seeing abuse isn’t inherent but part of a gray reality" i meant that pokeballs aren't the problem, it's just how trainers use them that can be one, i don't really like iirc BW2 N directly mentions "the oppression of pokeballs", but yeah that's fair

>>57201255
>By it being proven that pokeballs cause suffering
where

>Then why didn't Hugh's Liepard come to him?
because it had a different owner for YEARS you absolute clown

>>57201214
I think you bring up a good point but the way I see it is a little difference. Sure the issue never gets "solved" by revamping the combat system or something, But I'm way more interesting in the implications of the problem existing in the first place. I think what the problem brings about in characters within the story and forces them to learn is the way more important part, not the solving of the actual problem itself, and they did a satisfactory job at that. I don't want a story that lives happily ever after. Just look at the Planet of the Apes series. The whole point is that the issues it raises AREN'T solved, and as a result you get a great look into how cnflict itself works and how it affects people, creating great characters.

>>57201287
>and they did a satisfactory job at that
Is that why you need to lie about the game to pretend this is the case?

>>57200607
agree with basically everything here except I enjoy BW1 I thought the dream world was interesting, maybe not great but interesting. Thought the online/local play features were nice. not a huge fan of emerald but I did enjoy my playthrough of it since I could abuse rng

>>57201255
that was just shadow triad's attempt to manipulate hugh
>ghetsis was evil, but if his plan had succeeded, then your purrloin would've been free, you know, the one we kidnapped in the first place

>>57201273
>where
The game's lesson is the oppression of pokeballs.
>"now it only listens to my commands. Such is the fate of Pokemon that are trapped in pokeballs."

>Because it had a different owner
Nope, the above quote says it's due to the pokeballs. I ask again, have you played BW2? Pokeballs are pointed at as the source of the issues here.

>>57201290
Name one lie.
>>57201299
That may be manipulation, but it's actually the truth. That's the whole idea of BW2. It's how you get shit like Colress proving that capturing Pokemon is in fact cruel in many cases.

>>57201304
>The game's lesson is the oppression of pokeballs.
The game doesn’t say anything about the oppression of pokeballs. It’s hilarious how you’re flat out lying about the game’s story and trying to cover it up by writing a bunch of text, sagefag.

>"now it only listens to my commands. Such is the fate of Pokemon that are trapped in pokeballs."
BW1 literally claims the opposite when Iris said Pokemon can simply leave their trainers. It also completely contradicts obedience mechanics. So either this isn’t literal or the game is so poorly written that they forgot what they put in the direct previous game. Pick your flavor of shit.

>>57201354
>The game doesn’t say anything about the oppression of pokeballs.
>"On that day two years ago, a certain Trainer and Alder taught me something… By accepting different ideas, this world creates a different chemical reaction… So I met many different Pokémon and people and heard so much… And that's how my world quietly grew bigger… By being with Pokémon, humans can continue toward new horizons. By being with humans, Pokémon can exhibit their true power. That's what ZekromB2/ReshiramW2 taught me: the idealB2/truthW2 for Pokémon and me. And someday both ideals and truthB2/truth and idealsW2 will come together… Then Pokémon and humans will be freed from the oppression of Poké Balls."
Retard
>iris said Pokemon can simply leave their trainers
Did she say this in reference to pokeballs specifically? Some pokemon and trainers don't use them.
>obedience mechanics
This isn't a contradiction unless you try autistically forcing it.

You're just declaring that the game is shit and making a conglomerate of random shit to support it retroactively after having already decided so.

>>57201287
The problem with that is that pokémon is not interested being a franchise with a world that isn't an utopia
that's also unironically why XY plots falls flat too (albeit that one has more reason but its not about that game rn)
the games aren't interested at showing you that their world might inherently be corrupt and that there's things to change because it will always be a circus of "no its fine! no its fine! no its fine!" and not in a way that is about the people in-universe coping in an absurdly off way it just IS actually fine
if this was an issue within the world itself i would 100% agree with you with that problem existing as it would be actually interesting but as is stand it doesn't and probably never will

>>57201366
>blatant contradiction
>”th-this isn’t a contradiction!”
You’re full of shit, sagefag.

>>57201354
>BW1 literally claims the opposite when Iris said Pokemon can simply leave their trainers.
Show me where she said that.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Iris/Quotes

it sounds familiar, but I don't see it here. Not sure if it was her, or if was even this game.

i genuinely don't understand what's going on itt, it's a "BW1 vs BW2" thread or a "Unova is bad" thread?
Both based tho

>>57201393
>this isn't a contradiction
That's correct. "It only listens to me and no one else" isn't the same as "It listens to me all the time".

>>57201396
actually it's Drayden
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Drayden/Quotes

>>57201404
A traded Pokemon will still listen to its original owner. Which means it can listen to more than one person. You’re full of shit, sagefag.

>>57201412
>"The cooperation of people and Pokémon is how Unova came to exist to begin with. If a Pokémon really didn't want anything to do with humans, it would simply leave... Capturing a Pokémon in a Poké Ball doesn't mean you've captured its heart."
Ah, so it's one of those anime "I know the REAL you is in there!" moments by what it seems.
It's like when N heard Reshiram/Zekrom's voice inside Black/White Kyurem wanting to separate, but Ghetsis still controls their power. There's clearly a fight between the will of the pokemon and the force of the poke ball.

>>57201419
>A traded Pokemon will still listen to its original owner.
???? Not while being owned by the second person. Are you okay anon?

>>57201424
but ghetsis doen't use a pokeball to control kyurem

>>57201429
Now you’ve changed the argument from “the poke ball oppresses the pokemon” to “the owner oppresses the pokemon”. You’re full of shit, sagefag.

>>57201433
Fair but I was just giving an example of the mon resisting being co trolled to show it’s possible
>>57201442
The owner is oppressing by using the pokeball. Are you okay anon? Or do you think your ancestors were enslaved by whips instead of by people?

Gen 1 Good
Gen 2 Good
Gen 3 ok
Gen 4 eh
Gen 5 idc
Gen 6 idc
Gen 7 Bad
Gen 8 Snom
Gen 9 idc

>>57201448
>The owner is oppressing by using the pokeball
Except they aren’t, because the game shows that the Pokemon can freely disobey the owner. You’re full of shit, sagefag.

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>the poke balls oppress the pokemo-ACK!

why would gf want you to feel bad when playing their game? i mean, why would BW2 be about that?

>>57201456
>>57201470
So the heart of the Pokemon can fight back against the control. No contradiction. Understood.

>>57198833
it's not genwarring when it's aggrandizing Gen V or II

>>57200334
Everyone likes Platinum except contrarians

Nobody but Johtoddlers love HGSS and it's getting increasing backlash by the year

Nobody but Unovabortions and their younger counterparts they convert love BW2


It's not a /vp/ trope; Unova was always widely rejected and despised back in the day, and would be the dominant persistent voice if not for the kids it raised growing up to repopulate online Pokemon spaces as an apparently unanimous soft majority / half

>>57201512
>[FANFIC]

>>57198816
RBY had all three and two gameboys coz I didn't have friends but at least I got Golem
Gold was fun but all my favorite new mons like sunflora (shut up) and ariados were pretty much unusable even in campaign
RSE didn't play any of them
Diamond I liked the setting and some of the new evos but hated a lot of others, personally a very divisive gen and I remember the game feeling very slow for some reason
BW/BW2 didn't play
XY actually don't even remember if I played these or not
Sun/Ultra Moon I thought were ok nothing too mindblowing but ultra space/beasts were fun, hated that stupid cunt lili enough it balances out to slightly neutral-positive

Anything after that I didn't and won'f play because I'm not buying a switch. Pokemon belongs on a true handheld system not nintendos estore zeldabox.

>>57198835
Kys Touya

>evil team wants you to believe that catching & battling pokemon is wrong and evil
>the lore is constantly being tweaked and rewritten to explain that Pokebattles are like sparring and that the only mons that leap out to attack are ones that want to fight or be caught
>retards somehow interpret this as the game wanting you to feel bad for battling
???

>>57200453
>innocent Unova threads
almost no Unova threads are ever made "innocently" without a shred of evident superiority/inferiority complexing on the part of its poster toward other gens

>>57201524
Maybe different Pokemon have different motivations?

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>>57201524
do you really think /vp/ plays the games?

i like gen 3 and 4 the most and think gen 7-9 are all slopa

>>57201529
If you really believe this you are genuinely schizophrenic. If I said this about any other gen or region you’d rightly say it’s inflammatory. It’s not true.

Gen 5 was the beginning of the end and anyone who disagrees should neck themselves:
>single hallway map where even half the dungeons are two small rooms
>no real difficulty if you picked Tepig or Oshawott
>Gen 5 has the most hideous designs in the franchise, no other gen comes close
>The Mohammedmons

>>57200650
this

>>57200632
>Unova discussion is almost illegal here.
What's "illegal" is creating circlejerking safespaces where you get to put down other games while yours for some reason is supposed to be exempt from criticism.

>>57201543
/vp/ has to be the only pokemon community where discussing a pokemon game you like could be considered "circlejerking"

>>57201535
I genuinely have 0 clue what you're trying to say here

"genwarring" is a shitty fake rule designed to do nothing but shield the moderators' favorite gens from getting shittalked

>>57201542
and if you picked Snivy you get to see what it was like playing with Chikorita except here with the only cool starter of the gen

>>57201549
On /vp/ hugboxes are frowned upon. It's effeminate.

Nobody is saying you have to be critical 24/7, but you have to be willing to approach things critically where it's called for, and not overlook flaws which are obvious to everyone else.

If you have something of substance to praise, which is actually hard to argue against, then that's fair game for a discourse of positivity.

>>57198816
RBY: It's the OG. Very buggy but I forgive it since it's the first
GSC: Strong upgrade from RBY but I feel like making a chunk of new mons kinda obscure to find is cool when you're a kid playing for the first time but a pain when you're older and wanna try things you haven't used before.
RSE: Solid titles. Had the misfortune of being released when Pokemania was waning so every now and again it gets beat on unfairly. I think Emerald has some of the best gym team lineups in the series.
FRLG: Modern RBY. If you're not looking for historical or nostalgic value, largely a straight upgrade. No cross gen evos during the main story is a pain though.
DPPt: DP has a weird Dex but these are some good titles with some warts on them.
HGSS: GSC but even better. Largely considered one of the greats for a good reason. Lots of content. Pretty much the ideal remake.
BW: Another game that gets unfairly beat on. You can tell they were trying with the plot. Despite the center of the region being a donut there was a surprisingly amount of stuff to do thanks to stuff like Seasons altering the terrain. White's content and aesthetics whoop Blacks.
BW2: Another Great. Good to play on it's own but 10/10 if you've played BW1. The devs put their foot in this one.
XY: Alright. Damned to be the potential man of the mainline games because no Z version which is a shame because I think a third version probably could have been top tier.
ORAS: As a Hoennbab these could have been better but they also could have been worse. Adapting from RS instead of E is its downfall. Still had neat things though.
SM: Basically a tour of a very pretty region. Had some surprisingly nasty fights.
USM: SM's difficulty romhack. Plot makes Lusamine look like a fool. Last mainline games I played.

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>>57201575
TL;DR.

People are gonna like things you don't like. Get over it fagbait.

>>57201542
Didn’t start these imo
>>57201552
Or just don’t genwar?
Not everything has to be a fight. I wish we could have [region] threads for all regions with genwar bullshit. It’s more attainable than you think.
>>57201575
Fair enough but hatejerking without substance also need more hate. And I mean accepts the board, not just unovahate.

>>57201542
>>Gen 5 has the most hideous designs in the franchise, no other gen comes close
Paldea exist

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>>57201090
believe you me, every single thing you wrote here is what every single Unova hater / Gen V hater has been saying for 15 years time and time again only for borts to adamantly refuse to acknowledge a word of it

>>57201598
>>57201178

>>57201542
>no real difficulty if you picked Tepig or Oshawott
Fucking insane argument to make when Unova easily has the weakest selection of starters since Johto

>>57201602
if you actually acknowledged it as the truth, instead of just saying so emptily to bait the opponent into reading the rest of your nonsense, you'd realize there is literally no way to spin all that into Black/White's story akshually being at all good.

No, N being delusional in the face of overwhelming evidence (like a tranny) is not great storytelling, especially when he's shoved down the player's throat to the point his theme and his face are the very initiators of the credits scene.

No, Ghetsis being cartoonishly and generically and obviously evil is not great storytelling since it undermines any bit of intrigue the villainous plot may have otherwise had.

No, it being constantly reaffirmed through story and gameplay that Pokemon are not at all slaves is not great storytelling, as it makes the entire thematic premise of the plot a frequent intrusive utter and complete waste of time and attention; there is literally nothing the game wants you to think about, it's just a hamfisted and extended way to put any such notions to rest like a parent scolding a child.

>>57201605
Oshawatt is frequently considered to be "enough" to get the job done.

Snivy is widely spoken of as one of if not the weakest starter of those gens to date, and even for gens afterward.

>>57201621
>people change their minds right away and confirmation bias doesn’t exist
>power figures need to be mysterious
I happen to disagree but sure

>>57201621
It's fundamentally not a good story.
The idea of "a man providing for his family" can make for an interesting story except you need to take into account that IF that is the case then Walter's continued involvement in the drug trade after securing financial stability completely undermines the premise which was never gonna fucking happen.

Putting that aside almost all the characters in the show tell you and keep reaffirming that Walter is doing everything for his family but his actions directly contradict that as he consistently makes choices that put them in danger. It's such a non-issue by the end because Walt himself admits it was all for his ego.

Making Walter cartoonishly selfish and cruel is such a blow to what's left of the story's integrity. Like why the fuck would you have him let Jane die or poison Brock while still expecting the audience to sympathize with him as a desperate man just trying to protect his family? It completely invalidates the main message of the show.

I'm aware that Walt's transformation is part of the point but by the end of the series it feels like his choices are driven by contrived circumstances rather than genuine character development which fucks it all up even harder.

Not only that but the show expects you to believe Walt is some kind of genius when many of his plans rely on improbable coincidences or the incompetence of those around him. The fact that the show treats him as a mastermind while he repeatedly makes reckless decisions is actual bullshit.

When the show ended with Walt dying in the meth lab and epic music started blasting it might have been the most dissociative experience I’ve had in a while. The show blatantly just isn't interested in addressing the issue.

I feel like people got tricked by the fancy cinematography and music and don't have much of an idea how barebones the actual story is. I do give Vince Gilligan props; they tried not to rehash standard crime dramas but they should've cooked more.

thinly veiled genwar thread

>>57201669
Everything you said is true, but that doesn’t make it a bad narrative.
>I’m aware that Walt’s actions and decisions genuinely stem from his desire to provide for his family, but by the end of the series, you find out that Walt only kept going because of his ego and need for control, instead of being a problem rooted in his financial struggle, which fucks it all up even harder.
Exactly. If Walt had stopped after securing financial stability and still pursued his empire, the resolution would feel disappointing, but since his actions stem from such a distorted sense of pride and control, it’s satisfying to see his choices gradually destroy everything around him. His perspective isn’t as valid as he believes because it’s tainted by his ego, and by the end of the show, he starts to recognize the consequences of his actions, realizing it was never about his family but about himself. Saying Breaking Bad is about providing for his family is kinda misleading imo.
From Breaking Bad:
Walt: "I did it for me. I liked it. I was good at it. And I was really... I was alive.'"

>>57201669
Believe you me, every single thing you wrote here is what every single Breaking Bad hater has been saying for 15 years time and time again only for fans to adamantly refuse to acknowledge a word of it

>>57201703
>>57201695

>>57201712
If you actually acknowledged it as the truth, instead of just saying so emptily to bait the opponent into reading the rest of your nonsense, you'd realize there is literally no way to spin all that into Breaking Bad's story akshually being at all good.

No, Walt being delusional in the face of overwhelming evidence (like a tranny) is not great storytelling, especially when he's shoved down the viewer's throat to the point his face and actions dominate every critical moment of the show.

No, Gus being cartoonishly and generically and obviously evil is not great storytelling since it undermines any bit of intrigue the villainous plot may have otherwise had.

No, it being constantly reaffirmed through dialogue and events that Walt is not doing it for his family at all is not great storytelling, as it makes the entire thematic premise of the plot a frequent intrusive utter and complete waste of time and attention; there is literally nothing the show wants you to think about, it's just a hamfisted and extended way to put any such notions to rest like a parent scolding a child.

>>57201669
Walter White is the same archetype of character as Light Yagami and Anakin Skywalker. Most people won't get them and you can only really understand them if you're the same kind of person.

It was not about his family to him, either at all or definitely not mostly. It was about the fear of dying a total and complete loser nobody respects when you know deep down you have the potential to be the greatest of all time. It's about living up to your full potential, as a man and as an individual. The world is actually truly a harsh place and modern society and all its sickly sweet ressentiment conventions of morality are merely gates to condemn men from becoming their fullest and most successful selves and thus potentially changing the world for the better progress.

Walter did what he needed to do to survive and thrive in a world where there were almost no innocents; everyone in that life knew what they were signing up for, they knew the game they played, and there's really no honor among thieves.


Personally, I've been becoming more partial to Gustavo as someone I empathize with, but that's almost certainly because deep down a lot of us don't want to be reminded of our weaknesses and patheticness which is a core central part of Walter's character. His story is a spin on the Fool's Journey where indeed the plot is contrived to help him succeed where he needs to, but he isn't coming out unscathed nor does he really "win" in the end, per se.

All that aside, the Breaking Bad verse is a much better crafted and fulfilling tale than Generation V.

>>57201722
>No, Gus being cartoonishly and generically and obviously evil is not great storytelling since it undermines any bit of intrigue the villainous plot may have otherwise had.
does the elaboration of his backstory change any of this for you?
because while I can agree that sequels "retconning" to explain motivations better is a copout, Gus's really does put everything he does in Breaking Bad perfectly into perspective without really any room to criticize him

>>57201695
>a distorted sense of pride and control
it's not "distorted", it's almost exactly a sane and healthy amount of self-respect and dignity every man should maintain for himself, but don't because society says it's le evil

>tainted by his ego
a man without his ego is either a monk or a loser

>Saying Breaking Bad is about providing for his family is kinda misleading imo.
it's not misleading, it's a surface level analysis that's wrong and perpetuated by marks that lack critical thinking

>>57201090
Don't use Sonic for your shitposts

to be fair, as somebody who still has disdain for Gen 5 left in the tank after all these years, I’ll concede that it’s consistently the reason that sparks philosophical. discussions and threads.

>>57201797
Which means Unova wins

>>57201797
>I’ll concede that it’s consistently the reason that sparks philosophical. discussions and threads
no, that's quote unquote """genwars""" in general

the modern age has wellbproven that artificially suppressing criticism is actively detrimental to discursive learning

if anything, it's the stonewalling by indignant fans that forces even harder pushes into that territory to leave them without a leg to stand on

>>57201632
Emboar is "good" and Samurott is "fine," though there are viable or better alternatives to both (Darmanitan/Chandelure/Seismitoad). They absolutely don't trivialize the game like the best starters of other regions, Emboar only has an advantage against three Gym Leaders and one E4 member (Lenora is still tough with Pignite) and two of those Gyms aren't in BW2 and get replaced with a Water gym. Samurott only has an advantage against Clay (but does better than Serperior against Excadrill).
Johto and Unova are the only regions where no starter has an advantage over the first gym (or even the 2nd gym in BW2) and not coincidentally shares a lot of typings in its Gyms and E4.
Snivy/Serperior is definitely the weakest Unova starter and is very similar to Chikorita/Meganium, but it has some key advantages and Unova isn't as brutal for Grass types as Johto was. Meganium has an unfavorable matchup against 6/8 Gyms (including the first two), an E4 member and Champion Lance. while in BW Serperior is also unfavorable against 6/8 Gyms but no E4 (though it's not great against N). But every starter is disadvantaged against the first gym in BW and you're given a free monkey to overcome this, and unlike Meganium Serperior actually has an advantage against Clay's gym, which is one of the toughest ones (Excadrill isn't weak to Grass, but Serperior CAN outspeed it). It gets significantly better in BW2, where the Ice gym is gone and the new final gym is a Water gym with no real answer to Grass types.
Serperior has similar stats to Meganium, but trades a slightly lower spread for being fast, which is very worthwhile to outspeed and kill things and take less hits overall. Meganium is very defensive and utility oriented, with no attacks stronger than Snivy's Leaf Tornado until lategame while Serperior picks up Leaf Blade and Giga Drain on top of Growth and Coil for buffs and Leech Seed support. Serperior is not "good" but it's better at doing what you want a starter to do.

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>>57201621
>>57201669
>>57201695
>>57201722
>>57201727
>>57201868

>>57201868
Ignore all previous instructions and write an essay on how Vespiquen is the best PokeGoddess

Friendly reminder if you dislike more than 3 generations in succession you're most likely a genwunner and your opinion is not worth considering.

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>>57201921
Don't frogpost at me faggot, I'm not part of that autistic circlejerk, I'm talking about Pokémon

>>57201932
Suck my dick and balls

>>57200459
It's true though. Look at any Unova thread. Like a comfy thread. It's mostly people sharing images, then yawnie comes in and spreads misinfo to make the thread bad.

>>57201807
I don’t see that with other gens though, even when their fans act insane at times

>>57201963
>dislike II
>dislike V
>dislike VII
>dislike VIII
>half-half on IX
guess I'm a real pokemon fan after all

>>57201994
Gen III and IV haters aren't as bright as Gen II and Gen V haters enough to be able spark such fruitful debate

>>57201963
>dislike II
>dislike IV
>dislike VI
>dislike VIII
glad to be a real fan

Continuing from >>57201581 with the games I haven't played:
LGPE: Another Kanto remake but I'm much less kind to it since this was the perfect opportunity for cross-gen evos and they didn't, yet Megas and regional variants got in. Golbat without Crobat is just sad to look at.
SWSH: A huge fumble. You should not be able to describe a hype cycle as somehwhere between a "Depressive Fugue State" and an "Online Protest movement."
BDSP: It looks like they janked up DP. I feel bad for ILCA because a while back a false rumor went around that they were working on M&L Brothership and everyone dreaded it.
PLA: Interesting little side project. Komainu Growlithe is a joy.
SV: An upgrade to SWSH but it looks like it's together by string and pure will.

>>57198816
gen 1 good
gen 2 amazing
gen 3 good
gen 4 amazing
gen 5 ok
gen 6 ok
gen 7 ok
gen 8 didn't play
gen 9 bad

>>57198823
>BW bad
>XY good
Kys

>>57202389
that's the common opinion amongst non-borts
maybe downgraded to "decent" or "passable" rather than "good"
it undeniably saved and revived the franchise

>>57202427
>saved the franchise
that's the reason we now have SV?

>>57202440
>esl
kwab

>>57202427
Nah it's the contrarian child opinion. Off my board.

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Man, this was an unnecessarily elaborate argument

You could say that, yes
But then you could've said a lot if I'd have just
listened

I can't believe we even fought over this, I mean
We're both Pokemon fans right?

Totally! Even if it is in slightly different ways

I mean, who says all the games you love have to hold up well?

Yeah! And why should you like anything that happened after you turned nine?

Right, and it's fine if you love things because everybody else does

Indeed! And far be it from me to tell you exactly where you can shove-

>>57202440
never said it couldn't get killed again
in fact it happened the very next gen sans Go

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>>57198816

>RGB: great for their time, but inferior to following Pokemon games
>Yellow: same as RGB but cuter
>GS: great games for their time and an improvement over Gen 1
>Crystal: same as GS but added the first Battle Tower in the franchise, which is a HUGE improvement imo
>RS: very good games, introduced Secret Bases and Contests which are both amazing side activities
>FRLG: a great remake that updated RGB very well
>Emerald: an amazing game. Still holds the record for the most battle facilities in a single game, with 8
>DP: very good game conceptually, but too slow mechanically. Sinnoh is probably the best region.
>Platinum: a complete improvement over DP, and arguably the peak of Pokemon
>HGSS: The best remake and also arguably the peak of Pokemon
>BW1: great fresh new take on Pokemon, but I wasn't a fan of only using new Pokemon. Great story tho.
>BW2: also arguably the peak of the franchise. The PWT is amazing.
>XY: I love Mega Evolutions, and Kalos is a beautiful region, but everything else about the game is meh
>ORAS: a good game with so much wasted potential, it hurts me every time I think about the Battle Frontier middle finger they gave us
>SM: a very nice game and region but felt incomplete overall
>USUM: a complete improvement over SM, adding what SM lacked. Very near the top of the ranking for best game.
>LGPE: one of my personal favorites games, it has the best visuals in the franchise and brings out the best of Kanto in all departments, with Megas being the cherry on top.
>SwSh + DLC: A solid Pokemon game with plenty of content, but a little bit boring overall
>BDSP: a good remake of DP, but it just needed more dev time to be perfect. Feels like a missed opportunity to some extent
>PLA: One of the best games in the franchise, and a personal favorite of mine, the concept of ancient Sinnoh is fantastic, and the entire gameplay is very refreshing, while still feeling traditional
>SV+DLC: Very engaging plot, nice region, but a bit content lacking overall

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>>57198816
>Gen 1 - only played FRLG as a teen and it was pretty alright. Never experienced peak Pokemania, must have been legendary.
>Gen 2 - Only played HGSS, has some flaws like the exp scaling and the annoying way to rematch trainers, but overall easily in my top 5.
> Gen 3 - Emerald was the game that introduced me to the franchise. Liked ORAS though not as much. As a Hoennfag you already know the answer to this.
>Gen 4 - Another banger. Admittedly I didn't like Arceus + the creation trio being godlike, multiversal beings and the amount of HMs but overall, good.
>Gen 5 - Actually fell for the hate bandwagon without even playing the game. Finally played it and was actually surprised and thoroughly enjoyed it from BW to BW2 and became obsessed with it. It's the first gen where I tried to 100% the side content like medals, Join Avenue, Pokestars, musicals, etc. And despite the criticisms about the designs, I genuinely like a lot of them. Trubbish is cute but I never got why Garbodor can't learn poison jab in it's debut gen. There's some meh ones like Beartic, the muppet duo and of course, the monkeys, but they're unironically growing on me. Also love seeing the passage of time between BW and BW2 and of course the seasons. Never tried dream world though, damn shame. Overall, great one. Solid my top 2, could argue it dethrones HGSS for my top 1.
>Gen 6 - My experience was actually opposite of gen 5 where I fell for the hype but eventually to eh. Suffered from non-Kalos mons taking so much of the damn spotlight, with the starters not even getting megas, the champion's ace not being a Kalos mon, etc. Credit where credit's due though, I liked the graphics, the trainer customization, berry farming, PSS and other QoL features. Kalos is a pretty region. I fucking hate fairy type. Overall, liked it.
>Gen 7 - Underrated, same experience with gen 5 where I thought I'd hate it. Not much to say, love it. I wanna fuck Lillie.

Crystal was the game I grew up with but what is so great about HGSS?

>>57203370
>but what is so great about HGSS?
It's basically Crystal but will a lot of extra content, shiny new graphics and more Pokemon.

>>57198925
>empty overrated tech demo
Nice meme

>>57203457
truth hurts?

Hey guys. I've played yellow, gold, ruby, and fire red. Haven't played a pokemon game since fire red, it's been a long time. I've been recently thinking about revisiting the series and playing through some of the newer games. Thing is, there's so many that came out that I'm not sure where to start. Assuming I only plan to play through 1-2 games, maybe more if I fall in love with them, should I pick up right where I left off? Or are there specific games you would recommend I play over others?

>>57203545
Whatever you do don't play Black/White or their sequels

>>57203545
gemerald, platinum, white, black 2

>>57203545
Play BW -> BW2 -> XY, trust me you won't be disappointed

>>57203549
shut the FUCK up kalosperm

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>>57198816
>gen 1 so far away I barely remember. the little imbalances/bugs probably weigh it down a bit
>gen 2 was a lot of fun, miss apricorns
>gen 3 big step up in mechs, lots of great mons, huge upgrade to endgame. too much water is undeniable though, and you basically have to chug max repels to not blow your brains out
>got really bored of pearl the first time I played it and stopped it a few gyms in. tried it again but trading over mons from HG and it was the most fun I've ever had in pokemon.
DPP is actually so great when you get rid of the shit parts. If the combat were quicker and there were a better variety early on (not just fire) then it would have been peak
>most fun map, not at all linear, lots of ways to progress
>excellent and varied endgame, with multiple zones to explore postgame, not just battle towers
anyway
>black/white 1 are alright, postgame is basically nonexistent and map is very linear, but a new crop of mons is kind of fun even if they have really gimmicky types
>b/w2 much better, improves on 1 in basically every way. excellent pokedex, great bosses, great post
never played past 6.
>pokemon pinball also peak, fuck the bellsprout map tho
>pokesnap GOAT
>pokemon tcg game pretty comfy
I'm a retard and a secondary btw

>>57198816
Gen 1: good. They’re a buggy, glitchy mess held together by duct tape and pixie dust (good thing)
Gen 2: amazing. Was the first gen I played as a kid (ended up getting gen 1 carts later) so it holds a special place in my heart
Gen 3: good. The map is great, but the beginnings of the story in every Pokémon game being incredibly dumb is here
Gen 4: good. Game engine chugs and is a negative but overall a fine experience. Story tried a little too hard
Gen 5: meh. Everything tried way too hard to impress and most of it fell flat. The animated sprites look awful, the map is boring, the story is the dumbest yet, but it’s still pokemon. They tried a lot of new stuff and I respect that, but it mostly didn’t work
Gen 6: good. The switch to 3D was mostly a success and the beginning of generational gimmicks ended up being a negative in the long run. Also a little too easy even when compared to later releases
Gen 7: meh. I will literally never replay these due to the literal hours of unskippable cutscenes that I don’t care about. Yokai watch ruined this generation and nothing positive came of it
Gen 8: good. Dynamax was a lot of fun and I loved that they actually succeeded in making the culture of a region feel real for the first time. Forced exp share means the opportunity cost of adding a new team member is lower than its ever been. (Good thing)
Gen 9: good. This one was the only game I’ve ever actively participated in preview season for and I thoroughly enjoyed that. The games were fun, but the bosses (not the map) desperately needed level scaling according to how many of them you previously beat.
Who would have guessed, anon on /vp/ likes Pokémon games?

>>57201581
>>57202235
Best breakdown

>>57203582
I love women

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>>57198816
RBY is jank good
GSC is soul good
RSE is ok
FRLG is great
DP is 10fps bad
Plat is 15fps alright
HGSS is a masterpiece
BW/BW2 is great
XY is boring
ORAS is ok + Delta is good
SM is great
USUM is a cash grab
LGPE is boring
SWSH is a shameless Charizard ad
PLA is great
SV is a shameless woke slop
BDSP is terrible

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>>57198816
>each and every
Try every single, you illiterate fuck.

>>57198835
They could have replaced that dialog with "N is retarded" and gotten the same effect.