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Is he related to Claire & Lance? Are they related to Zinnia? Why is there a secret Dragon cult spread throughout multiple games in the series?
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>>57200439
Dragon trainers seem to have sub cultures all over the place
There's the blackthorne clan
There's Zinnia's tribe
There's the Village of Dragons in Iris' native region
There's Drayden's family
Drasna is probably also from a dragon clan
Dragon types just really appeal to people I guess
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>>57200452
Are Dragon type trainers the Pokemon stand in for indigenous natives?
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>>57200439
Most Dragon-types apparently need a special, very skilled trainers, it's lore established since Gen I. Sense of exclusivity and probably even low-key eugenics (secluded Dragon clan in Johto) make perfect sense.
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>>57200439
I would say he probably is, if only because the "sisters" which there are apparently 400 of them all dress like Lance too, but maybe they're just huge fans of the "dragon master" Zinnia and her clan seem to be a specific and special case though solely about Fug boi and the multiverse. Iris and Drayden don't seem to be related, and Drasna who knows.
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>even low-key eugenics
Drayton, you will mary your cute brown tomboy foster aunt who is ten times the trainer you will ever be and I will always prefer over you and you will like it. Now stop crying and put your tuxedo on, your making Axew upset."
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>>57200439
Hardcore sex with Hassel right now
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>>57200439
I wouldn't say it's secret, people talk about dragon clans pretty openly. There's also a dragon tamer NPC who mentions joining the clan recently, so it's not a family thing.
>>57200452
These clans seem to have connections to each other, even if only superficially. Drayden and Hassel know each other, close enough to talk about Drayton.
>>57200512
Calm down, Brassius.
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>>57200452
Lance and Raihan also wear the same outfit, which according to the anime refers to the fact that they trained together. Not really mentioned in the games, but considering how much in the teraleak was “internal lore” that made it into the anime but not the games, I wouldn’t be surprised if GF considered it canon too.
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>>57200551
>There's also a dragon tamer NPC who mentions joining the clan recently, so it's not a family thing.
Maybe it works by marriage.
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>>57200439
Nigga Hassel is related to Drayden accoording to the club room interactions
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>>57200439
this nigga ZESTY
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>>57200452
Do you think the elders in their hidden cave behind Blackthorn where no outsiders may enter ever punished Lance and Clair sexually?
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Drayden is probably his father realistically.
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>>57200439
They haven't clarified either.
As to why, it probably because it sounds cool.
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>>57200735
I don't think they are implied to are related. Hassel just knows Drayden.
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because url a faggot that thinks 'cult' is a meaningful word. I hope you cheesed out by a black person you dumb fuking beaner (no offense)
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>>57200770
>ran away from home when he was young cause he was... "a musician"
>still doesn't get along with his family
>has no wife or heir despite his age
>is into "the arts"
>Brassius and him have cute nicknames for each other
I'm like 90% sure that he's unironically implied to be gay lol
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>>57201016
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>>57200439
Probably not. I think dragons just appeal to the trad clan-minded people in pokeworld; combined with dragons required genuine skill/specialism, it makes sense that they'd pass it down the family line to build successively. The kids that didn't have a proclivity or favored some other type simply left the clans, further reinforcing the clan autism.

Also it's not a cult, they're specifically referred to as clans. As in rooted down, expansive families. They're not really recruiting outsiders.
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>>57201016
I mean at least it makes sense that Brassius and Hassel are very united, Hassel literally saved Brassius from killing himself
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>>57200510
Idk why anyone thinks Iris is family, even just adopted. It's the burger region. America used to be the place where anyone could climb as high as they wanted as long as they had what it takes. Iris does, and Drayden gave her the opportunity.
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>>57200510
Iris probably married Drayden's son, why do you think Drayton is brown?
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>>57201375
Are you blind?
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>>57200664
What did the leak say about it?
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>>57200551
>ywn be invited to the annual international dragon clan convention to represent your family
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>>57201495
There's nothing stopping you from making your own dragon families with your friends and having a get together every year. Just make friends and a family.

And don't make excuses.
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>>57202070
No, I'm gonna make a Fairy family and get together all the qts and have a large collection of wives. Fuck your Dragon Clans.
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>>57202087
>making a clan of fairies to spite our honorable dragon culture

Never before have I understood conservatives than in this moment.
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>>57202070
Ew, I don't want some soifaced group of rejects, I want to be surrounded by chads and stacies and we have massive sex parties in the hotel after hours that no one's allowed to talk about
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>>57202151
>implying the Fairy Clan isn't the most conservative
I'm here to collect and bend women to my will as Lord of the Clan, their opinions mean nothing. It's just a front to draw in qts, nothing more. Your Dragon Clan could never, can't even keep your own women in line.
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>>57202184
Okay this one's a cult. Fairy Cult, Dragon Clan, what else can we come up with?
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>>57202172
You need to join the Electric Clan then.
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>>57202219
Dragon Clan
Fairy Cult
Electric Military
Grass Commune
Bug Catchers (It's a whole thing)
Rock Bros
Ground Pounds
Flying Dynasty
Fire Clique
Water Family
Normal Losers
Dark Police
Psychic Scammers
Ghost Tribe
Ice House
Fighting Dojos (It's a whole thing)
Poison Groupies
Steel Sorority/Fraternity
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>>57201383
Are you? Drayton is darker than Drayden and there is clear inspiration from Iris in his design.
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>>57202184
Did you miss the part that they're dragon specialists while every other trainer uses their mom's dog/cat/pigeon? They definitely select the most unruly women around just to see if they can mount and tame them, which in turn produces a stronger, more feral next generation of dragon tamers.
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>>57202265
Well they're failing.
>Clair proceeds to have a hissy fit like a child and proceeds to cry like a little bitch
>All the sisters in SV that bitch and moan and can't form basic thought and act like weird dorks with titles all around
Pathetic when the highlight of your women is Iris and Drasna.
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>>57202254
His skin color is a completely different shade of brown. Also purple is generally associated with dragons, it has nothing to do with Iris.
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>>57202254
What clear inspiration? Most of the Dragon Trainers have their arm out like that, and purple is the color of the type. There isn't anything profound about him specifically that matches Iris.
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Here is how I always viewed it, assuming they're all related.

>Drake and Drayden are brothers, Drayden is the older and Heir to the Main Clan
>Drasna is Drayden's daughter
>Drasna is Lance's mother
>Hassel is Drake's son and Heir to the Side Clan
>Claire is one of Hassel's sisters (the eldest)
>Iris and Raihan are from a side branch stemming from Drake/Drayden's Uncle, the two being cousins
>Drayton is Claire's son

There, fixed it just fine.
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>>57202319
So this?
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>>57202372
No, according to anon Lance is Drasna's son.
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>>57202412
Yeah, but Lance and her should be a comparable age. Even assuming he's 25 during Gen 1, he'd be 28 for Gen 2/4, and at least 4-11 years pass between Gen 2/4 until Gen 5, making him anywhere from 32-39, and Drasna is 40. They'd have to be siblings.
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>>57202421
>Drasna is 40
Source? I always thought she was older.
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>>57202444
Part of the recent leaks, so take it as you will. But yeah, I would have assumed she was around 55-56 myself. Even with that anon's list, I think it's safe to assume that there are multiple Dragon Clans scattered across with different lineages, but they all have some type of common ancestor at some point, doesn't necessarily mean Drake/Drayden are related or anything like that. The only things we know for sure is that Hassel and the Dragon Tamers seem to be siblings (which is a massive family of girls), and Lance/Clair are cousins.
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>>57202270
Born and bred for cock correction, as I said.
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>>57200475
Nah, Alder who is pretty much an American Indian isn't a dragon type trainer.
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>>57201302
This
The dragon type trainers are aristocrats that are probably descended from those that managed to tame dragon types in ancient times.
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>>57202319
There is no way in hell Drayden and Drake are related, they look nothing alike
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>>57200452
>There's the blackthorne clan
>There's the Village of Dragons in Iris' native region
>There's Drayden's family
These are all likely the same thing given Hassel's questline and his interaction with Drayton.
And the fact that Drayton is wearing the Blackthorn clan cape on his waist.
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>>57203088
I actually can see a resemblance.
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>>57202319
Actually pretty reasonable. I would argue that Drasna/Zinnia are from different clans imo but seems fair. Nepotism runs well in the international pokemon league
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Anyone have the leak pages for any of these characters? Would they even clarify or just add to the confusion?
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>>57203088
I can see it honestly.
>>57203187
Drasna mentions that her grandparents traveled to Kalos and that they would tell her tales of a Pokemon that could control time, so she's from the Pearl Clan assumedly.

Zinnia's Clan is basically the Rayquaza Equivalent to those, so an Emerald Clan basically.
>>57203257
Most are just general descriptions, ages, etc.
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Not all of them are related.

Drayden adopted Iris, so she's not naturally from the clan, that makes Raihan a possible oddity of the Dragon Trainers. Zinnia and the Draconids are exclusively from Hoenn. Drasna's family was originally from Sinnoh/Hisui. Lance/Clair are seemingly native to Blackthorne, and as another anon stated, you have to work in the actual timeline with these character ages, for instance 14-24 years have passed between Gen 1 and Gen 9, so a lot has changed over time.
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>>57201375
I highly doubt that enough time has passed in-universe to make it so that Iris has a teenaged son.
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>>57203490
>BW: 9 years old
>BW2/XY: 11 years old
>SM: 13 years old
>SwSh: 14-15 years old (there seems to be an average of 2 years between timeline placements now)
>SV: 14-18 years old (Depends whether SV takes place during SwSH or not, it at least takes place shortly after considering Galar: A History has been published and Leon is mentioned to no longer be Champion), the course of SV's story is at least 6 months to a year too considering all the abroad trips, and the fact that you take mid-terms and finals).

So no, she would in fact not have a teenaged son by any means.
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>>57200776
No but I'll gladly step up and do what should have been done

>>57202973
Based knower
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>>57200776
Lance is too respected by the Clan for me to think he's ever been punished.
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>>57205893
>>57206117
SEX
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>>57200439
He is.
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>>57208229
Proof?
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>>57208265
Nta but they're all probably associated via political marriages at the very least. Just look at the Habsburg dynasty.
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>>57203285
Hell no, they have totally different skull shapes and facial features. Drake looks asian af with the sharp jawline and cheekbones and slanty eyes, and his rse artwork makes him look even more asian. Drayden has a white man skull; it's broad with a straight nose and huge forehead.

Using dragons, having facial hair, and being old =/= blood relation.
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>>57208666
He looks kinda hot in there.
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>>57208666
> Using dragons, having facial hair, and being old =/= blood relation.
Yes it does
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>>57208631
>probably
Ok.
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>>57210469
Blood feuds, more like
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>>57208666
If Drayden was actually American he'd have a big nose. Just like how Yancy and Lacey are related because they both have pink hair and Yancy had a little sister. Drayden and Drake are clearly related since they're old and like Dragons, see >>57210469
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>>57200439
They are the Jews of pokemon
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>>57200439
No of course not.
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>>57212159
Celestic hands typed this
(Just kidding, pokemon world is a way better place where jews don't exist)



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