Pokémon retrospective thread.Let's talk about the transition to 3D
>>57220779I don't like how they redesigned Blastoise's canon slots.
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>>57220785The sprites implies that blastoise can retract its cannons when its never shown to do this. Would be cool if it did tho
I don't understand. 2D or 3D shouldn't get in the way of making characters more expressive. We saw in the leaks that XY prototype battles had entry and low health animation even. But they never finished or went back to that because...? I don't know.
>>57220908XY is already more expressive than BW. What are you whining about?
>>57220908XY was rushed and GF lost interesting in making good games since then
>>57220915In your dreams maybe, yawnie.
>>57220813He did it in Stadium.>inb4 not canonI don't care.
>>57220915Ehh not really. The Pokémon show no expression in battle, only during the optional grooming minigames.
>>57220929Ehh yes really. Stop staring at Showdown gifs like a retard.
>>57220779I agree 2D gives more personality. I miss the 2D screens of trainers and such. Now everything is 3D and also low effort 3D.
>>57220924Oh didn't know that. Wish they would bring that back then
>>57220915>XY is already more expressive than BW.Never said otherwise?>What are you whining about?They had perfectly good battle visuals during XY's development but scrapped it forever.Then Masuda says 2D is more expressive when that doesn't have to be true. They just didn't finish their own work.
>>57221015>They had perfectly good battle visuals They still do.
>>57220779So many Pokémon had more personality in Pokemon Colosseum/XD than in any other Pokemon game. 3D isn’t the problem.
>>57220779What's there to talk?As usual, 2D > 3D.
16 posts in and we’ve already resorted to the spin-off deflection. Glad we already agree that 2D is worse.
>>57220779>>57220908>>57221051Good 3D > Good 2D > Bad 2D > Bad 3D
>>57221055That’s because Deltranny can’t go a day without talking about spin off games. Just ignore him.
>>57221060>Good 3D > Bad 2DYup. XY’s graphics are better than BW’s graphics.
>>57221092XY could never
>>57221108have shitty looking 3D mixed with shitty looking sprites? Yeah, true.
>>57221108I miss the 2D sprites. They were cute.
>>57220779Literally a skill issue,if the visuals are the same and lak "personality" then use animation to give them one,Pokemon Colosseum had that and looked great.
>>57221128Me too. Those buildings are ugly as fuck.
>>57221193Yeah, but I can deal with that. 3DS generation had good looking buildings on the other hand.
>>57221118Yeah, you're right. Instead XY has nothing but shitty looking 3D.
>>57221193>>57221199Or well, good looking for pokemon games.
>>57221193>>57221199but they are so comfy..
>>57221207I think they look out of place since it's emulated. It's more pixelated on a regular DS and would feel more at home with the sprite.
I can't imagine spending my life here just to argue that old pokémon bad new pokémon good.
>>57221226Not a strong case from you when you are in this thread.
I can't imagine spending my life here just to argue that old pokémon good new pokémon bad.
>>57221062Behead those who besmirch the cube spin offs inshalla
>>57220779Personally I haven't enjoyed 3d battles in mainline until PLA. It's not perfect but it's cool to actually see pokémon lunging and hitting their opponent. Not even the Stadium games did that.Otherwise I think they're fine. Some mons have better 3d models than others but that is true for sprites too kek (Gen 3 Banette is disgusting).As for 2D games, I think GameFreak was actually a master of pixel art. It's hard to explain but their sprites and tiles being easily readable and cute looking made them stand out compared to other games. You can see it in their non-Pokémon stuff like Drill Dozer too.Gen 3's development has actually shown they spent a lot of time trying to make the pokémon look good and make them have depth.Their maps lost charm when they went with the 2.5d look and I never have been crazy over it.
Hey dumbasses, quit giving (You)s to the yawnbitch
>>57221244You're making assumption that everyone who posts at all times is a no-life who spends all day here everyday. I'm here now posting and I come here like once a monthalso, old pokemon good new pokemon bad
>>57221226You're making assumption that everyone who posts at all times is a no-life who spends all day here everyday. I'm here now posting and I come here like once a monthalso, old pokemon bad new pokemon good
I played ORAS recently and was surprised at how expressive and dynamic the models and the moves were in the XY eralook at XY/ORAS Blizzard https://youtu.be/zfQZXAXJHAs?feature=shared&t=71the camera moves, the FoV changes, it's nothing crazy but it's actually animatedthen you move to SV and it's just a blue fartthat's the apex move of that type and it just looks like thatseems like it keeps getting worse, they can't even upkeep what they have that's good
>>57221641fixed camera made making animations easier
>>57221659SV has the fixed camera too, you can switch between the fixed one and rotating it manually
>>57220938I don't play showdown. I prefer playing on cart.
>>57221641I noticed some moves in PLA still reuse special effects from X&Y, just higher res, so I wonder why they can't reuse the camera work in SV either.
