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>>57225464When you made this thread.
when global releases started and masuda went all safe corporategoing through his blog is depressing
>>57225470>masuda went all safe corporateThat one is probably on Nintendo. They did that with their other IPs, too, and are only slowly playing it less safe again.
arguably gen 3not saying gen 3 was soulless, but that was the last soulful game
>>57225464
>>57225494Meowth was gen 1
>>57225464Gen 5 is one of the most soulful gens in the franchise
>>57225464when they made FRLG instead of a new game
>>57225464Full 3D
>>57225464>when it stopped being japanesewhat did she mean by this?
>>57225464XY when it ditched innovation to cater to dex autists
>>57225464FTFY
>>57225517>>57225544Agreed, 2d was really peak
>>57225552Based, XY's gyms aren't immersive
>>57225550FTFY
>>57225464Technically one could argue that the directors switched during the development of GS. Tajiri's Pokemon 2 was based on all of Japan, as evident in the Spaceworld Demo, whereas Masuda was largely responsible for the Johto region in the final game. That's why he was given the role of sub-director of GS and role of co-director of Crystal. In short, Masuda did most of the heavy-lifting since 1998.
>>57225464the truth is, the soul never leftnow kill yourself
>>57225469fpbp, /thread and every reply below is not canon.
>>57225464Gen 6, when it shat all over Masuda's magnum opus and threw away soul in favor of pandering to the lowest common denominator, because NPC's couldn't handle ONE game without CHARIZARD
>>57225464Masuda was basically in charge during GSC. B/W definitely have less soul than Gen 4. They burnt out almost all their good ideas with DPPt and HGSS.
>>57225718>Masuda's magnum opusThat is Platinum.
>>57225719>StoryGen 5 > Gen 4>MusicGen 5 > Gen 4>CharactersGen 5 > Gen 4>MapGen 4 > Gen 5>ContentGen 4 = Gen 5>DifficultyGen 4 = Gen 5>GraphicsGen 5 > Gen 4>EngineGen 5 > Gen 4???
Blue>when they fixed some bugsRed and Blue>when they had an international releaseYellow>when they canonized the animeGS>when they added a new region and new pokemonCrystal>when they let girls playRS>when they rebooted the seriesEmerald>when they made breeding easierDP>when they dropped to 30 fpsPlatinum>when they charged full price for a new formHGSS>when they kept kanto emptyBW>when they cloned the pokedexBW2>when they charged full price for a new storyXY>when they made the pokemon 3DORAS>when they made Hoenn uglySM>when they got rid of gymsUSUM>when they charged full price for the same gameLGPE>when they got rid of the gameplaySwSh>when they got rid of the pokemonBDSP>lmaoPLA>when they made pokemon open worldSV>when they got rid of graphicsDeath by a thousand cuts
>>57225531As in the regions not being based on Japanese locations you dumbass.
>>57225770>BW2>when they charged full price for a new game
>>57225464whichever one you played first is the last game that had soul
>>57225464Saul Gone
>>57225503Don't let yawnfag see the truth
>>57225464gen 5, the magic of pokemon was lost at that pointi see platinum & HGSS as the ultimate realization of the original vision for the series and after that everything went downhill
>>57225868>first rs>last that had soul hgss
>>57225503Gen 5 being a relative flop convinced Masuda to stop trying.
>>57225464I'd say Gen 5, it didn't feel like Pokemon anymore. It was still fun to play, it just felt off.Gen 6 was the point of no return with zero redeeming qualities.
>>57225469rekt
>>57225783Anon would've had a meltdown if he knew before DLC, video games had expansion packs instead.
>>57226123I guess HGSS was a relative flop too
>>57225464Right around here, when they made third stage and special evolutions in the wild the normThis is when Pokémon died
>>57226123She solded more than rse
Gen 5
>>57226341this but unironically, evolving mons to obtain the third stage was both rewarding and great lore-wise
If you think that at any stage, you're ultimately proving you never cared about the IP for itself, just for how (You) could use it to make yourselves more interesting.
>>57225464I think Gen 7. The amount of times the game pulls away control from the player to tell its story I don’t care about make them borderline impossible to replay, the new gimmick they were pushing felt stupid, the online services were a straight downgrade when compared to previous gen’s
>>57226389>pulls away control from the player to tell its story I don’t care aboutit's not the game's fault if you don't like JRPGs, to fix gen 7 you just need a skip button patch
>just skip 70% of the game then it's good>>57226395
>>57225464Additional dimension
>>57226405>Speedrun time>5 hours>Completionist time>140 hours5/140 is now 0.7lol
>>57226445HGSS is just a platinum rom hack.
>>57225464When I stopped playing the mainline games so gen 5 onwards
>>57226413the whole campaign is boring dogshit and there’s no point trying to complete the game since the online is gone effectively makeing things like the battle agency useless
>>57225464At this exact moment.
>>57225464when they reeaalllyy stopped giving a shit
>>57225464>When it switched directorsGold_Silver.jpg
>>57225567iykyk
>>57225464XY is soulless because it was about catfishing genwunners, not the jump to full 3D.
>>57228118This. I can’t believe a Pokemon game catfished Pokemon fans by having Pokemon in the game.
>>57225464Dropped Pokémon for a decade after playing Diamond in 2007, so I'd say then
>>57225732it's all trveexcept gen v lacks any jankino so she's a little less sovlfvll
>>57228129Pokemon fans don't even like Pokemon though
>>57225464>>57225550When pokemon with over 720 bst were introduced.So gen 6.
>>57225732>>Map>Gen 4 > Gen 5>>Content>Gen 4 = Gen 5>>Graphics>Gen 5 > Gen 4You do not actually believe those.
>>57228180Shut up bort
>>57228213ok homer
>>57225868I played since Gen 1 and a liked Gen 4 more than Gen 3. Gen 3 and Gen 6 are my least favourites for being boring, beyond Gen 3's abilities and Gen 6 introducing 3D graphics they both feel like vanilla Pokémon games. That barely dare to do anything different with the structure. Whereas the other gens are more risky and interesting.
>>57228311>t. unovabort