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debate
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>>57225464
When you made this thread.
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when global releases started and masuda went all safe corporate
going through his blog is depressing
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>>57225470
>masuda went all safe corporate
That one is probably on Nintendo. They did that with their other IPs, too, and are only slowly playing it less safe again.
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arguably gen 3
not saying gen 3 was soulless, but that was the last soulful game
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>>57225464
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>>57225494
Meowth was gen 1
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>>57225464
Gen 5 is one of the most soulful gens in the franchise
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>>57225464
when they made FRLG instead of a new game
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>>57225464
Full 3D
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>>57225464
>when it stopped being japanese
what did she mean by this?
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>>57225464
XY when it ditched innovation to cater to dex autists
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>>57225464
FTFY
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>>57225517
>>57225544
Agreed, 2d was really peak
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>>57225552
Based, XY's gyms aren't immersive
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>>57225550
FTFY
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>>57225464
Technically one could argue that the directors switched during the development of GS. Tajiri's Pokemon 2 was based on all of Japan, as evident in the Spaceworld Demo, whereas Masuda was largely responsible for the Johto region in the final game. That's why he was given the role of sub-director of GS and role of co-director of Crystal. In short, Masuda did most of the heavy-lifting since 1998.
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>>57225464
the truth is, the soul never left
now kill yourself
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>>57225469
fpbp, /thread and every reply below is not canon.
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>>57225464
Gen 6, when it shat all over Masuda's magnum opus and threw away soul in favor of pandering to the lowest common denominator, because NPC's couldn't handle ONE game without CHARIZARD
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>>57225464
Masuda was basically in charge during GSC.
B/W definitely have less soul than Gen 4. They burnt out almost all their good ideas with DPPt and HGSS.
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>>57225718
>Masuda's magnum opus
That is Platinum.
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>>57225719
>Story
Gen 5 > Gen 4
>Music
Gen 5 > Gen 4
>Characters
Gen 5 > Gen 4
>Map
Gen 4 > Gen 5
>Content
Gen 4 = Gen 5
>Difficulty
Gen 4 = Gen 5
>Graphics
Gen 5 > Gen 4
>Engine
Gen 5 > Gen 4
???
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Blue
>when they fixed some bugs
Red and Blue
>when they had an international release
Yellow
>when they canonized the anime
GS
>when they added a new region and new pokemon
Crystal
>when they let girls play
RS
>when they rebooted the series
Emerald
>when they made breeding easier
DP
>when they dropped to 30 fps
Platinum
>when they charged full price for a new form
HGSS
>when they kept kanto empty
BW
>when they cloned the pokedex
BW2
>when they charged full price for a new story
XY
>when they made the pokemon 3D
ORAS
>when they made Hoenn ugly
SM
>when they got rid of gyms
USUM
>when they charged full price for the same game
LGPE
>when they got rid of the gameplay
SwSh
>when they got rid of the pokemon
BDSP
>lmao
PLA
>when they made pokemon open world
SV
>when they got rid of graphics
Death by a thousand cuts
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>>57225531
As in the regions not being based on Japanese locations you dumbass.
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>>57225770
>BW2
>when they charged full price for a new game
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>>57225464
whichever one you played first is the last game that had soul
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>>57225464
Saul Gone
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>>57225503
Don't let yawnfag see the truth
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>>57225464
gen 5, the magic of pokemon was lost at that point
i see platinum & HGSS as the ultimate realization of the original vision for the series and after that everything went downhill
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>>57225868
>first rs
>last that had soul hgss
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>>57225503
Gen 5 being a relative flop convinced Masuda to stop trying.
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>>57225464
I'd say Gen 5, it didn't feel like Pokemon anymore. It was still fun to play, it just felt off.
Gen 6 was the point of no return with zero redeeming qualities.
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>>57225469
rekt
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>>57225783
Anon would've had a meltdown if he knew before DLC, video games had expansion packs instead.
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>>57226123
I guess HGSS was a relative flop too
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>>57225464
Right around here, when they made third stage and special evolutions in the wild the norm

This is when Pokémon died
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>>57226123
She solded more than rse
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Gen 5
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>>57226341
this but unironically, evolving mons to obtain the third stage was both rewarding and great lore-wise
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If you think that at any stage, you're ultimately proving you never cared about the IP for itself, just for how (You) could use it to make yourselves more interesting.
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>>57225464
I think Gen 7. The amount of times the game pulls away control from the player to tell its story I don’t care about make them borderline impossible to replay, the new gimmick they were pushing felt stupid, the online services were a straight downgrade when compared to previous gen’s
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>>57226389
>pulls away control from the player to tell its story I don’t care about
it's not the game's fault if you don't like JRPGs, to fix gen 7 you just need a skip button patch
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>just skip 70% of the game then it's good
>>57226395
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>>57225464
Additional dimension
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>>57226405
>Speedrun time
>5 hours
>Completionist time
>140 hours
5/140 is now 0.7
lol
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>>57226445
HGSS is just a platinum rom hack.
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>>57225464

When I stopped playing the mainline games so gen 5 onwards
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>>57226413
the whole campaign is boring dogshit and there’s no point trying to complete the game since the online is gone effectively makeing things like the battle agency useless
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>>57225464
At this exact moment.
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>>57225464
when they reeaalllyy stopped giving a shit
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>>57225464
>When it switched directors
Gold_Silver.jpg
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>>57225567
iykyk
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>>57225464
XY is soulless because it was about catfishing genwunners, not the jump to full 3D.
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>>57228118
This. I can’t believe a Pokemon game catfished Pokemon fans by having Pokemon in the game.
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>>57225464
Dropped Pokémon for a decade after playing Diamond in 2007, so I'd say then
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>>57225732
it's all trve
except gen v lacks any jankino so she's a little less sovlfvll
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>>57228129
Pokemon fans don't even like Pokemon though
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>>57225464
>>57225550
When pokemon with over 720 bst were introduced.
So gen 6.
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>>57225732
>>Map
>Gen 4 > Gen 5
>>Content
>Gen 4 = Gen 5
>>Graphics
>Gen 5 > Gen 4
You do not actually believe those.
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>>57228180
Shut up bort
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>>57228213
ok homer
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>>57225868
I played since Gen 1 and a liked Gen 4 more than Gen 3. Gen 3 and Gen 6 are my least favourites for being boring, beyond Gen 3's abilities and Gen 6 introducing 3D graphics they both feel like vanilla Pokémon games. That barely dare to do anything different with the structure. Whereas the other gens are more risky and interesting.
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>>57228311
>t. unovabort



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