Resilient Rush EditionPrevious Thread: >>57222895FAQ: https://pastebin.com/MypNBzca
>still buying physical
I love Ririe
>tfw up 400% on my PKM stocks since 2021
>still buying vintage
I only buy WOTC and Nintendo cards. No TPCislop for me.
>>57229129>Still no Lillie alt art cards revealed.
>>57229139>not buying vintage
1/1 sketch cards when?
>>57229207Just gives us something to look forward to. However I am not looking forward to the prices :(
If Pokemon got Yu Nagaba to draw some scribbles into a card, what if we get CalArts next?
>>57229247too western
>>57229247too shit
NOOOO MOONBREON BROS?? MY RETIREMENT PLAN IN SHAMBLES THEY'RE GONNA OVER PRINT THIS.
>>57229313https://x.com/PokemonTCG/status/1879574273544622582>its realHAHAHAHAHA PRICES ARE GOING TO TANK SO HARD
>>57229247We literally have Yu Nagaba cards already.
>>57229323will it rly though? They printed 151 like crazy and its still being scalped.
>>57229323They won't, because the extra stuff won't be released for months. At best they'll just include Prismatic packs in future tins/boxes even though 151 and Fates aren't.
>>57229034What kind of dumb question is this? You think a scammer wouldn't do that for thousands of dollars? People scam for much less.Wait, just to be sure we're on the same page, they wouldn't put a real card inside, obviously.
>>57229323>>57229313Prices won't go down. Cope.>moonbreon???
>>57229313scalpermexicans, not like this.......
>>57229313I bought 2 etbs at €80 a month ago and the store sent me a message today saying they didn't get the allocation they expected and they're working to fulfill all orders, it could take them a month.
>>57229343... you can't tell if a card is fake by the picture? ngmi
>>57229343Some scammers use the back of real cards and just print the front and glue it or whatever. Also most scams are caught because the scammer was greedy and put up a "too good to be true" listing. There are a shit ton of collectors with fake boxes and cards that will never realize they got scammed. Specially the sports bros that know nothing of the hobby and just spend.
umbreon a shit
>>57228999Seriously, I am here to learn. What cards are the best investments in the long term for you and what is the reasoning behind it?
>>57229368>What cards are the best investmentslow pop japanese promos like >>57229129but you don't have the money for it
>>57229368Just buy the cards you like...
i haven't been in this thread in like a week because i realized how low IQ it is but I just want to say I want to target today to pick up prismatic evolutions and I ran into two mexicans who were so obviously scalpers outside of the doors. I walked to the pokemon card section and they went a different direction and then when I got to the card section they were both already there. Imagine if you will, two 30-40 year old brown men with facial hair and tattoos sprinting to a kids' toy aisle. Thank god I will never look like that, being a white tranny. The worst thing I can look like is a loser. These people look subhuman and I feel gross knowing how bad they're hurting the hobby. No prismatic was put out today however so they haven't won yet. I guess I have to sprint next time I check. What a hobby. I can't wait for Donald J. Trump to deport them all.
>>57229368no one knows. its all speculation and investorfags jerking eachother off over what cardboard card is worth more. What I am trying to say is that i'm 99% sure all cards will crash in value soon because most "rare" cards are overprinted.
>>57229362>>57229365I come from Magic where the fakes are very good and if you don't know what you're doing it's very easy to fall for it.In Magic if you want to be 100% sure you look at the red dot on the back inside the green circle with a 60x loupe.You can also look at the rosette pattern the black ink layer etc.Knowing this stuff is required because the fakes are good. If they can do it for Magic I imagine they can also do it for Pokemon.
>>57228380Do you have any recs for these? I was thinking about getting one for my personal collection but they seem unwiedly large and/or stupidly expensive for what they are.With the faves I'm collecting [mostly gen 5+ shitmons nobody cares about] i'd be hard pressed to have a card more than $20 at most so it feels like overkillI've seen Gemloader and TopDeck tossed around but are there any other brands with reliable toploader binders?
>>57229387>two 30-40 year old brown men with facial hair and tattoos sprinting to a kids' toy aisle.looks like /tcc/ was right... i expect a formal apology
>>57229426thankfully I live in too small of an area to experience that dramatic of a scalper rush... but it still felt gross just seeing the few who so obviously have no business being here.
>>57229378How much? How liquid is it, how long will it take to sell if you want to do it?I doubt the demand is very high, am I wrong?>>57229385That's a different thing. I just bought some cards I like from Terastal Festival, Roaring Moon, Iron Hands, Iron Crown etc..I want to know about investing specifically.>>57229393Make an educated guess. I can tell you right now what vintage Magic cards have a higher chance of going up in the future based on various criteria.Of course no one knows for certain but you can still make an educated guess .For example I predicted Tolarian Academy being way underpriced at 30-40 yurobucks a few years ago. Look at its price now. I didn't invest in it because everything Magic related sent me in a fit of rage at the time and I didn't want to have anything to do with it kek.
>>57229435Then just invest in magic...>but magic gives me the ick!Who cares? You're flipping these cards anyway.
>>57229404For Pokemon cards, if the card is Holo, you can put a strong light behind the card, if light shines through, it's fake. This doesn't work on normal non-holo cards though.Then you can also look at the texture.
>>57229450I literally told you I plan to keep them for decades...Either way I have no faith in Magic anymore, I think its future is highly uncertain.Meanwhile, I see a resurgence of interest in Pokemon, the last two games have been great after a series of shitty ones. Plus the mobile app for the tcg.
>>57229387Are you cute? Post some pics for us qt :3
Why do people want prismatic evolutions so bad? The chase cards are fucking ugly. The set shitmons look better.
>>57229453All these things can be replicated. Except maybe the texture, I'm not an expert on that.
>>57229473there will be a wave of suicides soon when people realise that no one wants to buy their second hand box on ebay
>>57229473>>57229482Money always goes towards the path of least resistance.Vintage is too expensive for people, so they bought modern. This led to the rise of Moonbreon. Now people see the price of Moonbreon and they cannot afford it so they instead buy what to them seems like the next best thing, Prismatic Umbreon, or rather a lottery ticket to get one.
>>57229453>This doesn't work on normal non-holo cards though.yeah it does, rip any energy card and you'll see the black layer
>>57229387nice falseflag pablo
>>57229491Oh maybe the newer ones come with it too. I remember testing this with some old vintage cards and the non-holo don't have it.
>>57229313Wont matter if Retailers dont stop the army of bots buying up all the product
>>57229473Like, look at this shit. Looks like AI slop. It seemed like things were going in the right direction. Full ates were getting more visually appealing and the composition was improving. The cards themselves were starting to tell stories that remind you of why you like pokemon. Then Pokemon was like you know what we need? Fucking gems everywhere.
>>57229522>AI sloppeople need to stop using this word for things they don't like, it's losing its meaning.
>>57229522>le AI slopperino
>>57229522i genuinely have no idea whats going on here
>>57229522I am not a fan of this gem stuff. I like the gems themselves and the concept of terastallization but it ruins the art on the cards.
>>57229473All manifactured hype by cryptob- i mean investors. Once they ramp up the printing you'll see the real value of the set. The only good card in there is the Sylveon because it actually fits in with the gay gems hat.
>>57229472unless you're target demographic I have no interest in proving if i'm cute to you sorry anon.
>>57229514I don't get why TPC doesn't increase their direct to consumer capacity. Do they just not like sitting on inventory? Somebody who understands business explain this to me.
>>57229522All the non tera sir from this set will have a high price at one point. They're just too good and the set is ridiculously expensive to open.
>still buying engl*sh
>>57229548Agreed some of them are nice. It's sad because leafeon, glaceon and Umbreon look pretty alright but the gems pull your eye away.
>>57229528>>57229527>aiposting
>>57229474They can replicate the texture now. It looks odd in pictures though. Like there's too much of it or something.
need that charizard card anon from the last thread to send me their luck, its been a week of silence from this seller since i purchased and i hope i didn't get scammed :(
>>57229578I imagine it's hard to check all these things from a picture inside a graded slab.
>>57229313Good, scalpers should be publicly executed
>>57229387>Thank god I will never look like that, being a white tranny.why are there so many troons in this hobby as well?
>>57229644The worst was when they got 1,000 booster cases purchased straight from McDonalds managers. Ruined the whole point of buying a happy meal
>>57229313who could've known that an eevee set with all the evolutions getting SIR, pokeball/masterball reverses would sell out instantly? Even before reaching the store shelves? Getting scalped into the ground?that's so surprising!small indie company please understand.
>>57229645There's a correlation between autism and non-standard gender identity
>>57229645autism. i will say though tcg trannies are way less obnoxious and common than the other autism hobbies like fighting games
>>57229540>The only good card in there is the Sylveon
>>57229578for texture, you should always look at the eyes of the subject. On real cards there is no texture on the eyes, while fake cards slap a texture layer all over the card equallypicrel is a great example of this, none of the applin or hydra's eyes have texture
>>57229645the 'tismyou should see electronics and hacking trannies wew
>>57229661Now this is interesting.Those are all the same card, or are the central and the right one different? Looks like different lighting to me.
>>57229679>Looks like different lighting to me.It is, I zoomed all the way in and moved the card around to catch the different eyes in the same lighting
>>57229687kek not sure if that made sense, but it is the same card both pictures
>>57229350>Additional supply won't affect the price lol
>>57229701he's right. distributors will just sell the product at market price to stores lmfao.
>>57229701If they reprint the same amounts every time, scalpers will eat it up again. The only way they can fix this is to reprint a crap ton of it.
>>57229701you are correct>>57229707>>57229710you can stop crying and coping
>>57229659It's crazy how people don't think these are hits because they're not eevee lutions
>>57229713???
>>57229701Depends on the supply and the demand. The supply won't be huge and the demand will not go down.Maybe I'm wrong about the supply part, we'll see. Also how will it take them to release more product on the market? In the meantime it will go up so at best it will come down to what it is now.
>>57229687I see, that's what I imagined, thanks. Every information is precious.
>>57229710>bro scalpers are just going to buy it all up and cooperatively create artificial scarcity until they run out of liquid cash because they're definitely not in competition with each other to see who can sell off their inventory for the best price
>>57229659>paraslop formszzzzzz
>>57229701>Additional supplythey're literally just print like 50% of the initial print run.it's don't like the market will be flooded by products.so yes this reprint will not affect prices in the long run.maybe for 2-3 weeks
>>57229731>gay pursedogs with gem cancer
>>57229730t. scalper
>>57229744Why would I be a scalper? My whole point is that the scalping thing only worked for the initial release and that eventually they'll be whittled down to MSRP. Maybe lower in 6 months.
>>57229313I'm worried that with how intense the scalping has pushed demand that it might be a little too little too late. Still, it's something to at least hear them acknowledge the issue. Hopefully it also extends to printing more Surging Sparks.
>>57229514If DTC sales go up, sales at retail partners drop. Low sales at retail partners means less shelf space and less willingness to stock product. TPC makes more money from retail partnerships and brand awareness than it would selling DTC only.
There are no "scalpers", just sellers that sell at market price. If the demand is high, the price rises. Simple as.The price of Prismatic will drop once people are not willing to pay the asking price anymore, for now people are willing to pay more and more.Does this general not understand basic economics?
>>57229378So, how much does that card cost?
Sometimes I wish NFTs really did take off, so the crypto cocksuckers would stay in their lane and just let me enjoy ripping packs >>57229770I genuinely mean this when I say fuck your economics. I'm not here to make a fucking portfolio. I'm here to rip packs, appreciate card art, and collect my favorites. You and all resellers are scum of the earth.
>>57229778Basic economics also apply to goods like water, milk, eggs, bread etc., it's not something that has to do with finance like you seem to believe in your ignorance.
Scalpers can't keep botting away stocks indefinitely because their credit cards aren't endless. In a normal scenario they can risk it and scalp a couple restocks, like they did for 151, but official posts like this >>57229313 change things. What if this time they print a lot more? What if they release new special boxes every 2 months for the whole year? Even buyers affected by FOMO, reading a post like that, could think it's worth waiting a month or two, and that's the month or two that make scalpers panic because they need to resell stuff immediately or their scheme fails.If I was a brown mexican, after having spent thousands to hoard preorder boxes, I would think twice before scalping the next wave of boxes without the certainty of reselling the first wave.
>>57229770>If the demand is high, the price risesIf supply is low the price rises. Scalpers take advantage of low supply not high demand.>The price of Prismatic will dropWhen the supply is big enough that scalpers no longer have a market advantage. TPC did not create enough supply to meet the price point they wanted and they are correcting that mistake.
>>57229701You now realise that they're printing at capacity already and that there are more Pokémon cards being printed in the last five years than the 20 years before that.It's a none statement, because you'll still have giganiggers buying out cases of booster boxes and ETBs on release.
>>57229770If there's a set retail price for an official product and you are exploiting the FOMO to buy everything and flip immediately at 5x just because "there's demand", there are 2 niggers: you and whoever is willing to pay 5x. it's a 50%/50% split in niggerness, but you are still a nigger.
And if someone raids every costco he can find to buy their whole milk section, then resell it at 2x because "thats market price bro don't blame me!", it's called a subhuman scalper, and he's most likely brown and balding, like you! Glad we agree.
>>57229770So they're simply putting effort into obtaining product with the intent to sell it at the current market price, which is driven by the false scarcity that they have deliberately and knowingly contributed towards? That's what we refer to as scalping.
>>57229799The problem is that it's not just scalpers. You've just got thousands, if not millions of people back interested in the TCG, as well as the scalping cryptobros and investoniggers exploiting the situation.The supply has not changed, and probably will not change. But you now have 5-6x the number of people trying to buy out product now. because they're following hypecycles according to Youtubers and tiktok rip and shippers with basedface thumbnails>>57229823This. And uninformed niggers will also get fear of missing out because they're falling for hype cycles
>>57229799absolutely correct
>>57229804The demand is higher because of the mobile app and the crypto market rally.TPC printed exactly the amount they wanted, there was no mistake. They will not overprint the set, sorry, it will drop but it's never going back to msrp.>>57229816That's just opportunity. Who is the "nigger", the one that sees opportunity and takes it or the one that doesn't take it and complains?What a childish mentality born of impotence.>>57229837If people buy product, there's less on the market. The concept of "artificial" scarcity is stupid.It's like you people really believe only you in this thread are genuinely interested in buying products and everyone else is out there hoarding product with the intent of immediately flipping it.Guess what, if people do that is exactly because there is a huge market of countless people willing to pay high prices.I'm not wasting time discussing with you people anymore if you don't have anything remotely intelligent to say and only vent out emotionally like a teenager on her period.
>>57229866>vent out emotionally like a teenager on her period.This is a product I'd pay market price for
>>57229866Good, leave. Go back to /biz/. Free us from your scalping ways.
>>57229823this makes me physically ill
>>57229866>we had an actual scalpie melty ITTbased /tcc/ delivering as always
>>57229823>>57229879That's a great entrepreneur right there.
>>57229883I only ever speculated on singles for the short term. Sealed is for the long term.>>57229874Never scalped. Never been on /biz/.I'm simply explaining basic economics to you. Your opinion on why Prismatic Evolution is expensive is factually wrong.It's not expensive because of scalpers, it's expensive because that's its worth. If people are willing to pay that much then the price is right. The market is never wrong and if it's wrong it will eventually adjust.
>>57229866>What a childish mentality born of impotence. Way to out yourself as brown.
>>57229898Keep throwing a tantrum, I'm sure the price will go down.
>>57229823Realistically does anyone even break even doing this? Wouldn't taxes and ebay fees eat up most of the profit?
>the market is never wrong except when it is but that doesn't count because it's "adjusting"uh huhkeep drinking that syrup buddy
Is there a reason why people don't go for Chinese cards very often? They seem to be the same quality as the Japanese ones.
>>57229866>It's like you people really believe only you in this thread are genuinely interested in buying products and everyone else is out there hoarding product with the intent of immediately flipping it.>Guess what, if people do that is exactly because there is a huge market of countless people willing to pay high prices.This anon is correct. People think it's just scalpers, but it's a lot of people who want to buy as much as they can and are chasing stock like dogs in heat because it's the 'in' thing right now. Pokemon TCG is currently riding a wave of virality on social media and probably a good degree of digital to physical conversion from TCG Pocket.My brother recently got back into Pokémon. He keeps pestering me about how much our (my) childhood collection is worth and that it could be worth some money (I know it's worth tens of thousands, but I only collect, so do not care). He's chasing stock drops, and sharing widely circulated social media screenshots of absurd auctions for the new Umbreon, Butthole Pikachu and such, with the hopes that he might hit something like that from the amount of product he is buying. Of which, he is spending obscene amounts on sealed product because he's got money to burn.I imagine that he is not an isolated case. There will be millions of people like him, that have 'returned' to Pokémon. Scalpers are a symptom of an oversaturated market, not the cause.
>>57229927Because>Chinese
150$ card on release btw
>>57229927china bad
>>57229866>Scalpfag used Stomping TantrumBeautiful, Isn’t it?
Why don't they still do 1st edition and remove the mark for reprints?
>>57229926The question is "are people buying Prismatic?". If they are then the market is correct. Simple as. Go look at how many are selling on tcgplayer. Clearly people are willing to pay the price.https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/593355/Pokemon-SV%20Prismatic%20Evolutions-Prismatic%20Evolutions%20Elite%20Trainer%20Box?xid=a0bbeeaa3-df97-4cf9-9d71-d003672bf954&Language=English
>>57229951Pathetic >>57229910
>>57229952Because first edition is meaningless, in the WOTC era first edition stamps would be on multiple print runs, or the unlimited would somehow hit shelves first. In Japan, TPC first editions are more common than unlimited because the sets often didn't need reprints-- for example, as VS cards are first edition as there wasn't a second print.
>>57229927Chinese products have the stigma of being counterfeit that wont be easily shaken off to western consumers
>>57229959But enough about you
>>57229933>I imagine that he is not an isolated case. There will be millions of people like him, that have 'returned' to Pokémon. Scalpers are a symptom of an oversaturated market, not the cause.Finally, someone intelligent.
>>57229970You copied my post lol.
>>57229933>Scalpers are a symptom of an oversaturated market, not the cause.I said before and Ill say it again, this hype cycle will die once the 30th anniversary set comes and go. It happens EVERYTIME, until then dont pay investboomer and scalpfag prices
>>57229823You can't buy all the milk of all the stores. Scalpers are affected by FOMO as much as buyers, if they don't resell FAST they are in trouble. The Pokemon Company releasing an official statement should worry them immensely.
>>57229976>this hype cycle will die once the 30th anniversary set comes and goWhy do you think that's the case?
>>57229866>Who is the "nigger", the one that sees opportunity and takes itsee opportunity = scalping children games without any collecting interest just to make a quick buck as fast as possible. Yes that's precisely the nigger
>>57229987Because the pokemon boom and bust cycles can be correlated to their anniversary dates. After the 25th anniversary there was a huge downturn in the market and it cooled off. We're ramping up close to the 30th and we're experiecing the same upswing we had back then, Afterwards its going to collapse back down because stuff like the New Pokemon video game will come out and thus redirect consumer cash elsewhere, the same way Scarlet/Violet had done after SWSH
>>57229975Great Minds Think Alike my friend
I was thinking of skipping prismatic. I think the sets "fine" but that was about it.Watched a short video of someone actually opening a God Pack with all eeveelutions, and damn those cards look really nice actually. Glaceon is the only one I'm indifferent on, the rest are great looking.I'll probably just buy the eevee set as singles or something since the chances of me pulling a pack like that are insane, let alone even buying a pack to begin with.
>>57229990It's cards. No one needs them. Explain with logic and reason why it's wrong.
>>57229992The booms were caused by GO, then by Logan Paul and now by Pocket. Anniversaries have nothing to do wtih it, how could they?
Four Chinese scalpers had 593 boxes confiscated at an airporthttps://x.com/mozu9ooooo/status/1879394781899714661
Depending on how bussin the Lillie SAR is it will make or break this hobby. If it's goated then we're cooked. We better be hoping it's a mid card.
>>57230011>Anniversaries have nothing to do wtih it, how could they?Wrong, the booms were cause by the same old nostalgia sets as always. KANTOOOO. 151, Logan Paul buying charizard, The new Eevee set, it all comes down to the fact that millennials are going through their midlife crisis phase and thus, whenever a pokemon anniversary rolls around, they buy into it. They'll move along (along with their money) when the next pokemon game comes along as theyll be able to get the same kick at a much less price point. Look at the swings, it happens everytime
>>57230018>millennials are going through their midlife crisis phase and thus, whenever a pokemon anniversary rolls aroundthis, it's doom spendingcan't afford to start a family and buy a house so waste all your money on Pokemon cards and travelling le world
>>57230012would be funny if they didnt get the cards back
>Complains about Scalpers>Does this shitI'm so sick of this fag
>>57229927Chinese cards are the future, especially s-chinese trying to catch up to t-chinese/taiwan with great exclusives (see 151). Additionally, chinese and japanese are printed together and have the same quality, while the poor brother in this case is korean.A quick google will back this up, but the vast majority of people will never see those few reddit and elitefourum threads and will stick to the idea that chinese=bootleg.I can justify people choosing their own language, or japanese because "og" language, but chinese is the best budget choice overall
>>57229987NTA. But typically, people seek novelty and will eventually become tired and bored of doing the same thing. Especially if the market makes it difficult for them to get product and get excited about being able to partake in the hobby. We've gone through this with Pokémon several times before as I'm sure you know, and while it might be an all time high right now, it won't stay at the top, nothing does.Pokemon as a franchise might have a higher baseline compared to others, and does have eneral lasting power, but there'll be another things trend followers will move onto as that becomes popular and they get scared of missing out. Doubly so if there is money to be made from it.I think this current boom will last through 2026 with 30th anniversary and Gen 10 coming up, but it'll hopefully cool off after that.
>still getting cucked by scalpers
>>57230034Its a shame because the Chinese sets are some of the best deals price point wise and usually have great presentation. But that stigma is too strong
>>57230033M-M-M-M--M-MOONBREON THUMBNAIL!??!
my PSA order is at step 7/8 :)
>>57230018This is so wrong and ignorant.All the pokemon booms coincided with crypto booms. This is confirmed by the fact that when Pokemon boomed, Magic did too.This idea that anniversaries have something to do with it is shamanistic nonsense lol.Cardgames have always had a tie with crypto since the inception and people returned because of GO, Logan Paul and Pocket.
>>57230033It's an act. He gets paid $20k to make a video opening $3k of cards and pretends to be sad about not winning the lottery and getting a God pack (because that's going to be even more money for him), and his cocksucking fans will act as though this is the worst set ever because he's pretending to be sad for views
>>57230033Kek.I think you guys get too riled up over this guy.
>>57230034Chinese characters look bad compared to Japanese ones.
>>57230045>This is confirmed by the fact that when Pokemon boomed, Magic did too.>Magic did too
>>57230056I agree.Probably just because I grew up with JP media, so I'm biased, but only Kanji I think looks cluttered and overwhelming. Having kana included is so much nicer. And also having created kana to compliment kanji was the smarter system.
>>57230055I don't know who he is but these YouTubers are clearly pushing gambling onto people. They need to be stopped, it's nothing but advertising from pack opening to grade submission reveals
>>57230064It did. You can cope all you want but that won't change. Right now modern Magic is booming, look at Kaladesh boxes. or Eldritch Moon, or whatever. Back then it did too, I know because I was there, unlike you.
>>57230080>look at Kaladesh boxesKaladesh is booming because of the DEI controvesary, lets not pretend its tied to pokemons rise
>>57230056>>57230066There's something about gigantic blocks of kanji/chinese characters that makes it look so monolitic and almost freaky looking. But having Japanese text be a mixture of kanji and kana it just looks more friendly to the eye. Hard to describe it.
>>57230088>because of the DEI controvesaryNo. That was Rudy's narrative but it started climbing before the announcement. The dates don't lie. And MOST IMPORTANTLY many boxes from that era also rised in price, I have also mentioned Eldritch Moon, which you have conveniently ignored.>its tied to pokemons rise???That's not what I said.
>>57230003>it's stamps/coins/figurines/rocks/etc. bro, no one needs them.It's called collecting. There are people who collect things as a hobby. I know it's crazy right? Real collector items gain value over time due to rarity and conditions. I don't condemn people who collect for monetary value if they want to showcase an expensive collection, that's the heart of collecting.This, however, is not collecting. Umbreon doesn't gain value because of its rarity, it just has a viral value due to hype, trend, poketubers, etc. and this wakes up all the niggers who don't even know what a pokemon is, and yet want to make a quick buck exploiting the trend.I'll repeat it, in this scalping wave both the sellers and the buyers are niggers for different reasons, while the normal collector who just wants to fill a personal binder buying an item that was intended by the official production company to be paid at a retail price, is 100% fucked.
>>57230066>>572300891) because you are weebs2) Chinese charactes have much harder edges and like anon said, they're like gigantic blocks of text, which is obstructive. Hiragana, has some elegance and isn't nearly as obstructive.3) because you are weebs
>>57230018"Millennial" is too broad to really mean anything, the youngest ones only recently turned 30, the youngest oldest zoomers turn 30 this year
>>57230111The thing I find crazy is the number of PSA10 Moonbreons. There are literally 10k+, compared to PSA10 Zards, of which there are only hundreds of Unlimited, Shadowless, and 1st Edition. These niggers want Moonbreon to be the next Zard, but how can it be when there are so many?
>>57230111I only see emotions, neither logic nor reason.I could write about how people get interested into collecting something by watching someone else do it and therefore how it's stupid to get angry at "poketubers" but it's gonna be a waste of time because you will not listen to reason, at this point it's obvious.
>>57230033Every single big poketuber has released their own "pokemon market is in danger we must rise up!" video almost at the same time, and every single one of them after 1 (one) day is back to their "I OPENED 3000$ OF PACKS UNBELIEVABLE"
>>57230122bcus mondern>vintage>still buying vintagemoonbreon pull rate is like 1/32000 the prices are fair
>>57230122Because more people want the card.
>>57230056arr the same
>>57230114Shut up weeb.Terms been diluted since its unfortunately gone mainstream.
>>57230120Middle "Miennnials" (86-92) are the cohort that was first advertised to Pokémon in the late 90s. Those "Millennials" are now in the age group where many are hitting their middle-ages (late 30s, early 40s) and high level positions of employment or business owners, meaning that they're currently the big spenders on frivalities. "Millennials", are also being priced out of traditional assets like housing, so are seeking other ways of storing and growing wealth.
>>57230017Speak English.
>>57230143It's weird seeing GenZs and Alphas use it and they don't even realise that it's from PBF, or that moot used it as a word filter because he didn't like being called a Wap. It's actually hilarious how many GenZ/Alpha memes have 4chan roots, but they don't realise it while they simultaneously decry it.Weirder still, for me, is how shitting on Chris-chan became mainstream
>>57230125Not that anon, but collecting is inherently an emotional past time. Whether it's appreciating the art, buying singles of your favorites, or the nostalgia of ripping packs. There are 70 year old boomers that do the same thing with baseball cards. Scalpers and investors that are only in this for logic and have no pathos or no connection of the hobby are nothing more than invaders that make the hobby worse.
>>5723012030’s probably a bit old for zoomers, I’d say the oldest zoomers are around 25 now.The way I’ve always thought about it is that young millennials grew up with G/S/C, and old zoomers grew up with R/S/E
>>57230125Yes, collecting is purely emotive, as it should be. The moment you rationalize collecting by evaluating a card based solely on its potential resell value, you are not a collector anymore.
>>57230149I’ve no idea about memes nowadays, but a lot of memes from the 2000’s came from 4chan
>>57230151>>57230166This is not collecting, this is a discussion on 4chan...
>>57230033>>57230055YouTubers like him disgust me because I keep seeing their ugly mugs soifacing at products while I'm trying to look up more informative TCG videos.
>>57230149I'm more just annoyed at them utterly ass raping hobbies I love. Makes me completely understand "hipsters" I used to make jokes about in College. I understand now.Anime/Games/JP Media/ Etc. Not the meme usage. Though it is ironic how they think 4chan is still some secret underground club of pedoracists, and how much of their humor/culture is still influenced by it.
>>57230182Go back to Mexico
>>57230182A discussion about collecting cards in a collecting card general on a basket weaving forum called 4chan. Yes. If you come here, make light of an anon's autistic passions, and treat the cards as a pure expression of logos/investing and not something of inherent emotional value, people will make fun of you and tell you to fuck off.
>/tcc/ has turned into /r/pokeinvesting/Could you faggots just shut up and post some cards?
>>57230195You can say whatever you want but it always goes back to the laws of the market. It's the same for every other good.>>57230193I'm in Europe. Cope.
>>57230199
Did something change with tcgplayer recently? I've been tracking the value of Latias&Latios alt art for years and now all of a sudden they've blanked the sales history page.
>>57230205>I'm in Europe. That explains the lack of emotional connection to the hobby.
>>57230280Explain this assortment to me. Looks really random.
>>57230029They are not getting the cards back. They either burn them or keep them for themselves.
>>57230286It says he paid 1k for those cards.
>>57230272That's cope. I'm playing Scarlet as we speak. I have several hundred hours on it without multiplayer or battles. Over the years I have spent thousands in cardboard. I have more passion towards cardboard than anyone in this general.I know perfectly well what you're talking about, I have gone through the phase of ignorance and anger at high prices. Then I learned how it works and I moved on.If you wanna get educated watch this guy. I haven't even watched this video yet but I know it would prove useful to you. He's knowledgeable and will tell you things as they are, not as you want to hear them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUGFLUbI1Oo
>>57230286It's a pack of base set.
>>57230199Saving up to buy the Giratina alt art, after buying tons of Lost origin etbs/build boxes/boosters, im ready to throw in the towel and just get it directly
>>57230280The frame is probably worth more than those cards
>the mistic rops guy posted a vid of him opening prismatic packs>i blink for a sec and the vid goes privateLMAO, even with the reprint annoucement people is still extremely pissed off?
>>57230300>>57230306Oh he bought a single base set pack for 1k and opened it?What a dipshit.
>>57230312I'm watching a stream of another guy and he pulled LITERALLY nothing in 50+ packs lmao this set is ass
>>57230315Most likely was part of a box break during the hype of 2021.
>>57230317You either pull a god pack or you get shit.
>>57230317I'm watching PokeRev mostly because he was posted here and it popped on my feed.He hasn't either.But I did watch that God Pack video earlier, and that was neat. Mostly just have it on as background noise anyway. I'm probably skipping this set minus some eevee singles.
>>57230317I am sure the reason why he privatize it is people giving him shit for "buying loads of packs and leaving us with nothing" not because the pull rates.
Quick, you get to pick a pokemon you like to be the main focus of the next big set, who do you pick and why?
>>57230315None of those cards are even 1st editions.
>>57230338>pokemonFuck you, i want waifucards, journeys together got the right idea but wasted slops on N and fucking hops, we need more waifucards.
>>57230344>Threw out all my bulk WOTC two years ago because i thought they were worthlessPain
>>57230349Okay, so which waifu are you building the set around?
>>57230350You think that's bad? recently i learned that the torchic star shiny card is crazy valuable and then i remembered i had that card, but when i went to search for it i couldn't find it, i am 100% sure that i had it but now is gone.
pulled a paradise dragona box, got the latias and some other cool bits
>>57230362That Braviary art is insane
>>57230309Beautiful girls. There's a lot of SwSh cards I want to go back on and pick up, but I want to save until I can secure a Lillie SIR from this next set set before I make any more big purchases.
>>57230356I want a Sango card, why the fuck liko, who is only good for lewds, and her useless friends get cards but sango doesn't?
>reprint announced>scalpies show up and try to gaslight everyone into buying their bagsclockwork
>>57230350Same, I had hundreds of those, but honestly, they all became pretty beat up, with scratches, bends, and all that
Whats your favorite Surging Sparks card?Minus the Milotic SIR its the Castform for me.
>>57230309I can't believe an exposed belly marnie is a 5$ card instead of going for thousands. Westeners truly don't love their waifus.
Any chance we get new Jesse and James art for the next Rocket Set?
>>57230364Yeah it's cool>>57230378good taste anon
>>57230381I would say 90% chance. They deserved better.
>>57230338Arcanine because I like itIf a waifu got focus I’d choose Carmine because she’s the best girl
>>57230338Umbreon, so retards keep chasing it and leave the other SIRs at reasonable prices. Every new set should have a chase Umbreon from now on.
>>57230379>can't believe an exposed belly marnie is a 5$ card instead of going for thousandsFeel like westerners favor girls like Carmine more over Marnie
>>57230349Mankey's Paw: The next set will have split versions in JP, one featuring waifus and the other featuring husbandos. Every card in the husbando set has a husbando, but brings back Rainbow Rare. All the chase cards are in the waifu set, but has cards that lack human waifus. Both sets are scalped, no help thanks to Blue's Umbreon and Penny's Umbreon.
>>57230349>journeys together got the right ideaBetter get all your waifu cards now anon, once that set drops the secondary market will explode on all the past waifu cards
>>57230286He opened a vintage pack he paid a thousand dollars for and that’s what he pulled.
>>57230378
>>57230393Marnie’s regular card is like 30$. But no wonder the special Carmine card is worth more, just look at it
>>57230280To be fair, had he opened that set when it came out in the 90s, it wouldve been a good pull with that Arcanine
>>57230338I don't even care for most S&V girls but holy fuck this art is cute. Great attention to detail on her nails too.Also, I pick Chandelure.>>57230392Umbreon would be my second pick because its been a favorite pokemon of mine since its original release.>>57230349>>57230407My waifu card won't be here till the Black and White set.Shes finally coming, I can feel it.
>>57230381I'm waiting for a good deal to buy this card in japanese, but so far no luck...
>>57230418>Shes finally coming,Hildabro....You know its going to be Rosa, dont do this to yourself
>>57230369You will chase for Spinel's Umbreon and you will like it.
>>57230420The good deal would be now, The Rocket set will most likely cause the price to go further up
>>57230317>>57230327You don't seem to understand how pricing works.If opening cost a certain sum then the cards you open on average are worth that sum. If all you open most of the time are pokeballs it means those pokeballs will not be cheap, so they're not "LITERALLY nothing".
>>57230422They can't deny her forever!I hope.
>>57230338Dragonite.
>>57230414I bit the bullet and ordered it, couldn't pull her alt art in any of twilight packs i bought
>>57230428By "Nothing" I mean nothing I find personally interesting.The Pokeballs are neat, but ultimately don't interest me that much when they didn't replace the typing-reverse Holo types with them and instead just added to them. The type-reverse holos, pokeball reverse holos and masterball reverse holos ALL being together kind of feels like bloat to me. Sure it'd be neat to have one to sell I guess, but its not something I'd personally be super hyped to pull myself.
>>57230338Ho-Oh because they've been doing it dirty for far too long now
You guys didnt forget about ol Deoxys right? Surely you want more Deoxys cards
what's ur favorite cheapie?
>>57230440now you just need to never open another one of those packs again because it's going to be the first holo card you see in that pack
>>57230422And that's a good thing. Rosa>>>>>Hilda
>>57230448Should've been a holo rare imo, the art is too good
>>57230445probably when the invoosters fuck off so deoxys doesn't turn in to umbreon 3.0 on the chance of them trying to find SOMETHING to flip in the next shitty set
mail came today, also got some CZ collections on the waythere was a VMax Corviknight in the pack which is nice, was thinking about setting up a page or two for it as it was>>57230338Glimmora. hell lean into the crystal shit and theme it around gem mons like it/carbink/sableye/etc. My shitmons get cool cards and it deters people who hate the gimmick.
>>57230458>GolisopodI know we'll never get it but a small special set focused on only bug pokemon like Heracross, Scolipede, and Golisopod would be amazing
>>57230442I too would prefer illustration rares instead but it is what it is.
>>57230445I would love to make a collection of you and Arceus and Giratina but my ass does not have the fortitude for hunting down movie promosyour plushies guard my shelf though
>>57230450>Rosa>>>>>HildaDon't let me catch you in Unova, Anon
>>57230466>I would love to make a collection of you
>>57230464I'd be more interested in them if they removed the typing reverse holos for them. Even if they aren't SIRs. Just the Pokeball / Masterball.But 4 variants of the same card doesn't get me that excited unless its the masterball of a pokemon I like a lot.
>>57230462They had that merch line last summer and I'm so fucking mad I missed out on it
>>57230448Cheap cgi. OG the best. New pool one is decent.
>>57230338The elemental monkeys or Barbaracle to tank the hobby.
>>57230472WAIT WTF, I DIDNT KNOW ABOUT THIS??? NOOOOO
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these are all the textured SARs ive been able to get in 2-3 years. im ready to ditch this hobby though. the hype has gotten way too crazy again thanks to these faggot Tiktok and Youtubers. im not dealing with this shit again, I already went through the amiibo craze of 2015 (it was wild, trust me kids)
>>57230541>the amiibo craze of 2015did the value tank?
>>57230428wow you are right, those reverse holos from evolving skies must be worth a fortune by now!
>>57230412Nice. I got that and the Castform in the first and only boosterbox I opened.
>>57230546Pokeballs are not reverse holos, the set has reverse holos.
>>57230541People will eventually get tired. I usually just open 1 ETB per new set to collect the box and do some funny pulls. Then I just buy the cards I like from the set or if I'm collecting something specific.
>>57230561Point being that just because it's from an expensive set, it does not make everything in it expensive. The pokeballs aren't reverses but they might as well be with how common they are to pull. They're worthless.
>>57230544i think outside of like one or two amiibo probably it tanked real fucking hard
>>57230584Then where will the money go? Please elucidate us.You only have sir, trainers and poke/masterballs. With the price as it is on release the value must go somewhere. SIR are too rare to absorb all the value.
>>57230606Fuck I remember Marth going for like 50
Is Mitsuhiro Arita still doing art for pokemon?
>>57230702yes
>>57230541What do you want for that Tina, Anon?
>>57230725What a shit pokemon. It's existance is an offense to good taste.
How popular is actually playing the card game? I've been playing TCG Live and genuinely love it. Opening packs is fun and everything but 99.9999% of people will never profit a dime off of them. Do people only collect the cards just because they're poorfags hoping to hit it big?
>>57230472I didn't know this existed.
>>57229387Lmao kettle calling the pot black
>>57230816The card game itself is pretty popular and has been growing in recent years. Hard for me to speak for other regions, but I know my area has a very active and friendly competitive scene with tons of shops to play at. I'm really glad I started playing because I get lots of packs from participating, lots of people to trade with, exclusive play series packs, and just a lot of fun in general. >Do people only collect the cards just because they're poorfags hoping to hit it big?Obviously we've been infested with investorfags trying to make it big, but generally the majority of collectors are still just people who like Pokemon.
>>57230835>>57230477Do yourselves a favour and never ever look into pkmn merch. JP merch series are basically impossible to get on the aftermarket and Pokemon has so many insanely good series and themes for them, you'll cry yourself to sleep every night.There's the usual shillmons around but its staggering how much lip service they make sure to give to weird random mons depending on the collection
>>5723019990% of the hobby is investing, bro. Anyone who says it isn't, is deluded. What's the first thing people ask when they rip a big hitter? How mmuch is it worth, is it worth grading, should I keep it to sell off in the future?You can pretend that this is not a thing, but the hobby is determined by niggers whose only care is monetary value. Even if you collect and buy singles, it knocks onto your collecting because they can fix markets
>>57230317rates are estimated to be about 1/70 for an SIR, on average. there are no ARs in this set, so it's basically boom or bust
>>57229387>i haven't been in this thread in like a week because i realized how low IQ>being a white tranny.pokebros... our response?
>>57230927About 1/2 of pokemon fans are troons, nobody cares
y'all seem to have forgotten the most basic of basic rulesDon't feed the trolls.
>>57230927>trannies stay away from /tcc/sounds based
>>57229387>Tfw pokemon hobby consists of illegals buying it all up with welfare money to scalp eeveelutions to trannies Bleak, though the visual of a grown man in a dress racing adult Mexican men to the toy aisle for cardboard crack is pretty funny
>>57231027kekgrim
>>57230816>Do people only collect the cards just because they're poorfags hoping to hit it big?just the newfags who swarm in periodically, most of us here collect and play the actual tcg
>>57231043>collect and playBlasphemy!
>>57231027Not just that, making sure that they're the first ones to buy cardboard crack to ensure that undeserving children don't get to enjoy a franchise targeted at them
>>57231027The future is now genwunner
>still buying sealed
>>57231109Why is it always Asians? Are they the real niggers of the pokemon community?
>>57231119It's not just them. Every race is conditioned one way or another to seek money-making schemes.
>>57231119Chinese are the asian jews anon. But yes, modern society and culture for everyone has become one giant pyramid scheme. Remember back in the 90s when being a reseller/scalper was basically a giant social stigma akin to a scammer, times and morals have changed
>>57231049Children can't afford this hobby kek
>>57231109I'm going to costco to try and get some blooming tomorrow morning and its making me anxious.
>>57231165>get some blooming tomorrow morningMight be the best time since scalpers will be 100 percent focused on Prismatic
>>57231165Just wait in the carpark with a piece and threaten some of the fat fucks as they're leaving.
>>57231184>fat fucksjust steal em of their cart, it's not like they can chase you
>>57229645Autists are much easier to groom into trooning out, happens especially more often on Discord for whatever reason.
>>57231138>Every race is conditioned one way or another to seek money-making schemesIt's generally considered immoral amongst whites to have a money-making scheme that doesn't create real value. This is why Jews do so well. They have no aversion to usury and other schemes that take advantage of people.
>>57230056Eh, I don't hate them, Japanese looks better though for sure but I can take it or leave it. In terms of Asian moonrunes Korean looks the ugliest to me, and by extension Korean Pokemon cards are English print quality tier so its the worst of both worlds.
>>57231184douse their carts with acetone. if they chase you, spray 'em.
>>57230905>What's the first thing people ask when they rip a big hitter? How mmuch is it worthActual fans only ask that because they want to know how much money they save by not having to pay for singles for their personal collection, not for soulless flipper faggotry. You poser cunts never belonged in the hobby and you never will, all you are are sub-human leeches.
>>57231149you think kids buy their own toys, dipshit?
>>57231049Ah yes, children buying 50 bucks etbs.
>>57231411>ETBs are the only products sold
>>57230905Holy projection, batman
>>57231278>a money-making scheme that doesn't create real valueYou mean like literally every service job ever that are now 90% of the jobs in Western countries?
>>57231411see >>57231363 faggot
>>57231423>>57231436Poor kid can't get his prismatic pack oh no. Just buy another set lol.
>>57231411$50 is the same as spending $25 in the 90s
>>57231492I've got 2 PC ETBs on the way kek
>>57231502Thought we were talking about kids.
>>57231411I'm so sorry that you grew up fatherless, but you have to understand, sometimes adults buy things for their kids, and kids are really stubborn about wanting the newest and shiniest thing only.
>>57229522i just blame the nu tcg artists its like they're all just copying off each other
New>>57231562>>57231562
>>57231547>>57231495My parents wouldn't spend that much on stupid cardboard, they would maybe buy me a pack here and there but I don't even remember, I was the one buying packs with pocket money.What kind of irresponsible parent is buying his children this shit? It's literally gambling lol.
>>57231495lol my parents bought me 1-2 booster packs a yearthe only kids who were able to buy shit tons of cards were little timmys
>>57231540I misread kekOn re-reading, you're right. If a kid can't get it, they have to deal with it kek
>>57231572>What kind of irresponsible parent is buying his children this shit? It's literally gambling lol.It's pretty normalised in other countries. Never collected sports cards or sticker albums or any blind-box/bag toys that have existed since forever?It's only 'gambling' now, because niggers keep assigning high monetary value to cards.
>>57231583You should have done chores instead of being a poor little bitch. Your parents must have hated you if they couldn't spare 2 cents a day for you
>>57231610It's not the same thing as stickers. Of course I did that.It is quite literally gambling.
>>57230033You willingly follow and worse ACTUALLY WATCH this shitPart of the problem and you should be banned
>>57230280>>57230286>>57230315More than likely he's a turbo soicuck who actually jumped in on that Logan Paul break shit or whateverThis faggot got a special plaque on PSA cause he's in their pocket and get's guaranteed 10's even for clear 7-8's
>>57230445>>57230466I want all his cards
>>57230546>Cleared my stash before the dipFEELS GREAT
>>57231874pic is my fav deoxys
>>57231109I remember standing with a Target Employee watching as they had to call security and deny service and escort out some people because they got like this with fucking Amiibo's like 2014 or soShit was wildI comfortably got my pick because I was calm and saw these literal ape's trying their hardest to not chimp out before the doors even opened then running when doors did open
>>57231851I did not follow that stuff at all.Can you explain what a Logan Paul "Break" is?Just old vintage cards be bought and resold to people?Why does he get shit in the PSA? He will never touch cards again in his life. It was a 1 time youtube stunt, and that time has come and gone for him as far as I know.
>>57230033these people don't even react to trainer full artsis that normal
>still grading cards
>>57231165ok broyou go do that
>>57232271I'm never gonna get a reasonably priced 151 pack :(
>>57232271Absolute greed
>still buying modern
