What is the best & worst Pokedex roster? Hard Mode: Don't pick Kanto for best.
>>57230735SWSH is the worst
>>57230735SV is the worst
>>57230735>BestUnova unironically>WorstPaldea unironically, formerly Galar, formerly Kalos
>>57230735Hoenn has the best roster I think it should land at least Top 3 for everyone.I’d feel split between Kalos or Paldea for worst, both are kind of hard to build a team with.
>>57230740The original >>57230743The parrot
>>57230735>kanto is the hard modelmao, btw unova for best and sinnoh for worst (not because of designs but because it can't stand on its own)
>>57230735Best is Kanto worst is Gen 8. Gen 4 is also pretty bad too.
>>57230751Unova’s roster has problems but I’m sad that they havent retried making a roster that feels complete in isolation ever since.
>>57230735Are those really the best standouts they could find in Paldea and Galar? 1 coolmon and then the worst things you've ever seen in your life? Absolutely grim
Stealthy genwar thread
>>57230786any comparison thread is not immediately genwar until yawnfag shows up
>>57230751Does Johto stand on it's own?
>>57230795Whoops.
>>57230768I'm not, it's an interesting idea but in practice it just means two thirds of the dex has to be retreads of existing Pokemon to fill the necessary niches, instead of truly unique Pokemon. I'm probably in a minority but I would unironically rather have regional forms of existing Pokemon than new Pokemon that are just ripoffs of old Pokemon.
>>57230735Johto for best, BW SV tied for worst
>BestHoenn>WorstPaldea
>>57230807i agree, but aside from the obvious purrloin, timburr, woobat, and roggenrola, most of the "it's a Kanto clone!!" comparisons are very stretched
>gens that have no good monsJohtoKalosGalarPaldeapick one of them
>>57230735From best to worstAlola > Hoenn > Kanto > Unova > Sinnoh > Kalos > Paldea > Johto > Galar
>>57230807Leave it to pokemon fans to change their mind but i soured on regionals, designs were best in Alola & every gen after piled on retarded shit like regional exclusive evolutions, and the whole convergent/paradox thing is just a lazy way to pad out the dex with "new pokemon".At this point i'd do anything for a new region to just have 80-90 new Pokemon, no forms, no regionals, no bullshit.
>>57230831ScizorHawluchathe metal birdyellow mega man
>>57230846Hawlucha and the megamen fucking suck
>>57230853Goodra, Aurorus, Tatsugiri, Dondozo
>>57230853No they don't, fuck you
>>57230735>Best PokedexHoenn>Worst Pokedexbetween Unova Alola Galar and PaldeaI'd need convincing
>>57230735maybe its recency bias but doesn't it feel like the enthusiasm for the paldea dex was/is super low?
>>57230786>>57230793it's not a genwar thread until the majority of responses are anti-unova and/or anti-johto
>>57230906Alola Galar and Paldea have all had the same lack of enthusiasm, the last two quite evenly
>>57230735Best (Easy): KantoBest (Hard): AlolaWorst: SV
>>57230735I don't think Best is an interesting question because everyone's just going to say Kanto or the game the played firstThe only Gen I don't have a favorite from is Gen 7, which makes sense since it's the only one I haven't finished. I think the Ultra Beasts are really cool but the actual Alolan mons are pretty mixed and overdo the tropical theme. Also the Alolan Kanto mons are about a 50/50 between something neat and some of the ugliest shit in the franchise.Gen 6 and 8 are also very shaky though, Gen 6 has the fewest Pokémon of any Gen and is relying hard on Megas which maybe shouldn't even count. Gen 8 is also being carried hard by the fact that Legends Arceus is technically a Gen 8 game, if I was only picking actual Galar mons I don't think I'd have many strong options.
>>57230735Best HoennWorst Unova, Galar, Paldea
>>57230740>>57230743
>>57230985>the actual Alolan mons are pretty mixed and overdo the tropical themeId rather they “overdo” the theming compared to barely commit to it like in the later regions
>>57231309>compared to barely commit to it like in the later regionsWhat was the theming in earlier regions
>>57231348there was none? But the old regions are trying to be unique, everything after Unova has been TRYING to be PokeFrance, or PokeBritian, or PokeHawaii, and only Alola delivers fully on the concept, for Kalos/Galar/Paldea they all feel like somethings missing.
>>57231403Johto is very much trying to be Japanese but it doesn't really express this through its Pokémon, with some notable exceptions like Dunsparce and of course Ho-oh. It includes other concepts from a variety of cultures, like Hula dancers (Bellossom), Native American totems (Xatu), and the Latin alphabet (Unown).Hoenn is a tropical region like Alola, and while it has a lot of Pokémon appropriate for a hot/seaside climate to reflect this (arguably including the first "themed" starters) it doesn't completely saturate the Pokédex. Sinnoh in contrast is a cold/northern climate, most obviously in Platinum, which its Pokédex also reflects though not as much as Hoenn.Unova is PokéAmerica and while there are some mons that clearly fit that theme (Scrafty, Maractus, Braviary, Victini) it also has a ton of mons that take completely different cultural inspirations, including the starters (European noble snake / Chinese warlord pig / Japanese samurai otter) and the Legendaries (the Three Musketeers and Taoist dragons).Looking through the dex I actually think Kalos and Galar mons are pretty heavily themed, especially Galar. I don't think they stick out as much as the Alola mons though because "British/French/European" as a vague cultural theming is a lot more broad than Alola's "tropical" theme, which mostly means unusual animals with very high contrast designs. Wooloo in the context of Galar is "British" but it's also just a sheep that would fit in pretty much any other game, while a lot of Alola mons aren't as universal. In the SV DLC they even have a biome that's specifically for Alolan Pokémon.I think that's the problem I have with Gen 7, it's the one that fits the least with the others. Every other Gen takes inspiration from more sources and has more variety. If we got another region like Sinnoh that didn't really have any tropical elements, where would you fit a Pokémon like Toucannon?
years ago we had a pick 6 favorites poll, and I think Hoenn had the most and Galar had by far the least amount
>>57231784nvm, swsh wasn’t out yet, gen6 had the leasthttps://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/39122246
>>57231811based
>>57231811/vo/ lost like 80% of its posters since then
>>57230735Best: HoennWorst: Galar
>>57230795>>57230798I think cutting out the babies is to johtos benefit. I think johto stands on its own at least design wise. Only ones I can really say are bad is like skiploom/jumpluff sunkern/sunflora, snubble and remoraid.
>>57232061>skiploom/jumpluff sunkern/sunflorathe cutest mons in the dex?...
>>57230735genwar threadAlso a “how old are you” thread but nobody ever sees them this way
>>57232081>how old are youso a 40 year old can't say galar?
>>57230795even without crossing some off, its mostly boring shitmon with horrendous availability in the actual games, so no
>>57230735My opinion, feel free to seetheBest: UnovaWorst: Kalos, I hate the distribution here. Nobody talks about it because "omg I can choose from so many Pokemon" but I heavily dislike how many encounters are "if you don't catch it now you'll have to come back for it later" like how Nincada is found in a single area and its evos are NOWHERE else.
>>57232061I always liked Jumpluff specifically because it feels so forgettable despite being a 3 stage line, it makes it kind of funny, like a forgotten Pokemon.
>>57230795>Starters>Lanturn>Ampharos>Azumarill>Magcargo>Heracross>Shuckle>Donphan>Houndoom>Smeargle>TyranitarI see no shortage of good teambuilding options
>>57232064um buddy Murkrow is the cutest mon in the dex.>>57232095I like hoppip but it losing the cat features annoyed the fuck out of me.
>>572307353 for bestDP for worst (easy choice)
>>57232101Like half of those have absolute shit availability in the games.
>>57232189nta but>Lanturneasy to find>Ampharoseasy to find>Azumarillhard in GS, easy in crystal>Heracrosseasy to find>Shuckleeasy to find>Donphanfixed in crystal>Smeargleeasy to find
>>57232052Three horrible generations in a row has that effect.
>>57231811>Gen 2 has the best Pokémon to votes ratio
>>57231811Torterra was the highest starter?? nice
Alola is one of the best, because most of the native Pokemon are part of the community. >Totem bosses and their support mons replace Gym Leaders>Taxi Pokemon get people around>The Tapus choose the Kahunas>Regional Variants evolved to adapt to the climate>Polynesian aesthetic is mostly consistentWorst one sadly might be Sinnoh (but I didn't play Gen 8 or 9)? Most Alola Pokemon have purpose, but Sinnoh has so much FILLER. Pokemon like Bidoof and Finneon who became memes because no one uses them seriously. Burmy who is Honey Tree exclusive but not strong enough to make the effort. Chatot who is only remembered by the hardcore Mystery Dungeon players. It's no wonder DP has that running joke about kids using the same 6 mons.
>>57232634Bidoof had a whole merchandise line. You’re retarded.
>>57232634>Pokemon like Bidoof and Finneon who became memesmeanwhile alola pokemon are so shit no one even remembers the gay koala bear or drampa to give them memes lol
>>57231811>>57231784https://imgur.com/a/favourite-pokemon-survey-2024-results-tc3ck9mReddit did one of those last year. For both #1 Favorite and top 6 wasKanto>Hoenn>Johto>Sinnoh>Unova>Alola>Kalos>Paldea>Galar
>>57230735>BestHoenn>WorstPaldea
>>57232640>Bidoof had a whole merchandise line.People like Bidoof ironically.
>>57232658>kanto with a quarter top favs and almost a quarter team favslol
>>57232634The DP team was born out of DP having a bunch of powerful options available early, these being Starly, Shinx, Buizel, Budew, and of course the Starter, not because the dex itself is hated. The Sinnoh dex is one of the more successful ones due to the popularity of pokemon like Piplup, Croagunk, Lucario, and Garchomp, it's easily the most successful zoomer gen.
>>57232658The Switch gens are fucking hopeless holy kek
>>57232658interesting graph, 2 people picked the same 6
>>57232687A dogfucker.
>>57232685Not hard to see why, they lean on old mons way too much
>>57230735Kanto
>>57232658very common Hoenn W>>57232489Torterra is one of the most popular starters on /vp/ for ages; possibly even the most popular Grass starter
>>57230735gen8 is the worst, despite having great mons like falinks, weezingG and sneasler
>>57230735Gen 1 is genuinely fucking garbage tier>Psychic type has no viable counter because literally every single mon that could wall them is weak as shit or takes supereffective damage>One pure ice type to counter dragons only available via trade>Basically every single design is just "an animal" or "a human but..." or "a blob"Anyway best is Hoenn worst is Alola but literally everything after gen 4 looks like ass
>>57230735Gen 4 is the best hands down, Gen 9 is the worst hands down
>>57230735hmm
