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>Ledian sucks
>Ariados sucks
>Cleffa and Igglybuff are pointless
>have to trade to get Politoed
>Jumpluff sucks
>Sunflora sucks
>have to trade for Slowking
>Misdreavus sucks
>Have to trade for Steelix and Scizor
>Gligar not available until your at the final gym
>Qwilfish sucks
>Teddiursa not available until the 8th gym
>Phanphy not available until the 8th gym unless you're playing Crystal and even then it's in an obscure location that you can easily miss
>Corsola sucks
>Slugma is in fucking Kanto
>Skarmory not available until the 8th gym
>Houndour is in fucking Kanto
>Stantler sucks
>Elekid and Magby are unavailable except via Pokewalker and Electabuzz and Magmar are in Kanto, also you have to trade to evolve them
Why do they not want you to have any cool Pokemon in Johto?
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Because Johto was made shit on purpose. Game Freak wanted GSC to flop (and HGSS carries every single flaw that made the original garbage) so that Nintendo would end their contract and GF would be allowed to make real art its just that pokefans are retarded and didn't realize Johto and its Pokemon were made to insult their intelligence so they bought it anyway now GameFreak is stuck making Pokemon forever.
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>>57231833
Nice headcanon
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>>57231839
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>>57231795
Why'd you skip all the other ones? You're not one of those nu-Pokémon fans that thinks a Pokémon's national dex number decides what region it's from, are you?
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>>57231795
>ledian, ariados
Usable but yes they do suck
>cleffa, igglybuff
Fair
>jumpluff
Not bad at all
>slowking
I'll give you that, only bc it's so similar to slowbro
>misdreavus
Ok now you're trolling
>scizor, steelix
They're good mons, trading is the trade off. GF also wants you to trade, so they do want you to have these
>late game mons
Happens in every game
>stantler
Mediocre but doesn't suck
>qwilfish, corsola
Don't know, never used it
>no cool pokemon
You conveniently left out all the cool pokemon you can get
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>>57231890
This makes no sense. If GS flopped GF would probably have gone out of business. Sabotaging your own game doesn't make any sense.
You must have posted this schizo theory 100+ times and yet have never backed it with anything concrete
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>>57231795
>Ledian sucks
Does he know?
>Ice punch
>Thunder punch
>Light screen
>Reflect
>Baton pass
Heck, even Comet Punch is usable.
This mon was actually helpful in the adventure before the split. Idk about the remakes tho
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Millennials are incapable of grasping whimsy and fun
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>>57231795
>Why do they not want you to have any cool Pokemon in Johto?
Because they wanted to set up Colosseum, to have one of the most interesting premises for a game in the whole series:

Can you beat a game with just Johto shitmon to get you by?

No game before or since Colosseum has ever made Johto mons feel more valuable.
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*mogs your entire game alongside Kadabra*
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>>57231795
azumarill is good THOUGH
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>>57231795
>Teddiursa not available until the 8th gym
You forgot to mention Teddiursa sucks
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>>57234977
Like all normal types not named Snorlax, they got nerfed HARD in gen 2 thanks to Hyper Beam losing its "faint = no recharge" quirk and Steel Types existing.
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>>57234983
niggas will really be like "normal types suck because steel types exist" when steelix, scizor, and skarmory have like one trainer use each of them in the entire fucking game
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>>57234999
I'm talking about PVP, retard. PVE is a laughable measure of how good a Pokemon is because ANY Pokemon can mog PVE due to how retarded the AI is and how awful its movesets and stats are.
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>>57235007
>thread about ingame availability of pokemon
>I'M TALKING ABOUT COMPETITIVE
lol?
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>>57234970
stop talking like underage invader filth
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>>57231795
>Magmar are in Kanto

Magmar can be found in the Burned Tower on B1F (except in Crystal).
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>>57232185
>This makes no sense
neither does making all Johtomons useless shitters you can't even find. If it wasn't intentionally then why does no other dex have this problem?
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Teddiursa is in the early part of Dark Cave in Crystal. Its high attack and normal STAB is excellent in the early game.
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>>57235054
>Magmar
>having to use KANTOOOOOO Pokemon
Jothurd not beating the Wacky Deli allegations
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>>57235116
If you picked Cyndaquil as your starter, you don't need Magmar.
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>>57235646
>picking a pedophile
yikes
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>>57231833
Kantomons were added en masse because GF rightly had no confidence in the stuffed toy Gen 2 mons to extend Pokemania. There wasnt a big conspiracy to undermine Johto its just that GF knew they couldnt replicate the popularity of the original 151 so they basically created a Kanto DLC.
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>>57236011
Gen 2 wasn't a soft reboot like every later gen, it was a direct sequel. They weren't going to replace old Pokemon, just add some new ones for you to find.
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>>57235646
Typhlosion is cancelled. Can't pick him anymore.



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