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>/vp/‘s own meta (no random effects, no ex): vpnx
>meta decks or high level play: vpmeta
>/vp/ anything: vp

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>t-they won’t ban me!
>its not against the rules!
>there will be lawsuits if they ban me!
What other copes am I missing?
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First for two more weeks until wp gp is banned
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>>57289552
The real Space-Time Smackdown are the friends we lost along the way
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>>57289552
NIGGA THAT OP IS NUTS
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>>57289560
Didn't break any rules, jelly of my complete 2 star collection
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>>57289560
>DeNa will ban me in two days
Nah
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>DeNa will personally review footage of you doing jumping jacks and ban you for it
lmao
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>>57289560
don't care, still pulling on god packs.
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>>57289566
NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU HAVE TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TO PULL THEM NATURALLY
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>>57289560
1/5 pickCHADS stay winning. I was never going to grovel at discordtrannies feet for a friend code for a chance at a godpack
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>>57289560
>>57289552
Samefag
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>>57289560
>adding people to your friend's list to get their wonderpicks is HARAM
lel they invented this shit system they can change it, nobody did anything
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Only 3 more days SAY YOUR PRAYERS
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>>57289585
>1/5 odds pick
Enjoy all those 1* shitter cards lmao
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>>57289560
Who here #squeakyclean and can sleep in peace tonite?
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>>57289586
Ok? And?
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I refuse to use a thread with that OP.
Hope someone makes a proper one once the other 2 threads actually die
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>>57289560
>I get banned
Sweet freedom
>I don’t get banned
Random people on the internet seethe.

Feels like I win either way.
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>>57289597
Did I ask?
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>>57289590
>the payment to avoid wasting time and boosting tranny ego is to get a low-rarity card with my 3 WP stamina
I would pay much more than a virtual timer for a free video game for that, friend. Stay mad
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>>57289598
same desu
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>>57289602
So you have no idea how the process worked? I only lurked and autoclicked. Have a great collection and plenty of glass to spare.
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so /vp/ how many godpacks did you wonderpick?
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>>57289600
do i care?
You still need to be 18 to use this site, even the pokemon board.
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>>57289602
>wasting time
Lol your wonder stamina is filled regardless if ypu waste time on it
>inflating tranny ego
More like implying I waste time interacting in dicksword faggetry and not just get the codes, pick the cards I want, and camp on host friend list until I get kicked out by macro to troll on other players
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>make utterly broken retarded system that could be abused by a drooling 5 year old
>start banning players for engaging with said system in an efficient way
Why is everyone involved with pokemon so incompetent?
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Thousands will be banned....
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Nobody is going to lose their accounts over this. You guys are retarded. This is the broad warning; when they start banning they'll give a personal warning, and then just ban the account.

There's too much PR backlash for just banning accounts who participated in this since people are using the feature as it's fucking made. There would be too many innocent kids caught in the crossfire for just doing what their bros on the playground are doing as well, especially since it's still a pain in the ass to manually get into a god pack friend list from spamming requests manually. It's DeNA's fault for being too retarded to structure it in a way where it doesn't get abused so heavily.

They should have made it something like you need to be friends for a week before packs start appearing in your account (aside from the first week of launching the game). This would kill god packs in their entirety because by the time their packs get cycled into your WP rotation the god pack is gone already. But if they're too retarded to think of an anti-exploit system like that, they're too retarded to track down who's doing it in a way that doesn't have a bunch of false positives and complaining parents.
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I have so many wonderpick godesses, 4 Sabrinas, 2 Erikas, 2 Leafs.
I hope they ban godpicks somehow and pull up the ladder behind me.
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>>57289614
Do you remember how many breads you've eaten in your life?
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>>57289614
Honestly? No idea. Going by my extra 2 stars, I picked at least 26 extra times. That number does not include 1 star misses.

Been picking since mid December.
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These nerd bitches with 99 friends who have never seen a god pack finna cry to Gamefreak.
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>>57289560
>What other copes am I missing?
You forgot
>I could've gotten a bunch of top-tier cards for free, but I chose not to because DeNa is gonna jump straight to permabanning people for using their Friend List
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>>57289629
>PR backlash
you know that its like 0.01% of the playerbase that has probably abused the WP. Most dont care and you will seethe
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>>57289632
based
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>shartynigger op's image got removed
KEK BASED JANNIES
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>>57289643
lol
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Since you guys actually play the games, should I
>continue SoulSilver (haven't finished the Johto half)
>boot up Platinum
>boot up BW
And here's one of my favorite underrated cards as a courtesy
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>>57289647
SOVLsilver
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>>57289643
Oh hey looks like the system does work sometimes lol
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>>57289630
This. The most they do is stopping wp gp exploit but let go all the players scott-free. The ones who will seethe are purity faggots who missed their chance to wonderpick their FA waifus
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>>57289643
Total wojak death
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>>57289560
you forgot the best one
>they tacitly allow it because they make money out of it
oh god it's so fucking retarded
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>>57289643
>praising jannies
autists never fail to find ways to sink even lower
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>>57289643
Maybe jannies do exist after all
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>>57289641
>you will seethe
I say this as someone who doesn't do the god pack bullshit by the way. I don't have time for that shit and I'm not going to delete my actual friends list of real bros just so I can make room for WP bots. I'm just being realistic with understanding how game companies handle this stuff, and reading the actual announcement it blatantly says they will be issuing warnings first and foremost. Even if just 0.01% of abusers include innocent kids doing what their playground bros are doing, it creates bad PR that can snowball. The vocal minority has a large impact on your reputation, especially when news outlets will spin it up as a firestorm with blatant exaggerations and lies for personal gain at your expense.

There's not going to be any widespread bans. At most they'll just ban the level 3 accounts that got god packs and never opened the game again after mass accepting mass friend requests.
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>>57289661
The jannies make those threads
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>>57289659
die mad shartynigger
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>>57289659
seethe wojakfag
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>>57289552
>file deleted
Can we have a new thread now?
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>>57289641
Can’t comment of the percentage of players participating in the exploit, but the numbers are pretty large. Could have easily been avoided by making the friends list more valuable or ensuring that at least one 4-cost pick shows up every 48 hours. You wouldn’t see such a large volume of people exploiting the system if it was better.

As for the fear-mongering, I’ve seen situations like this before in gacha. Warning comes out. Dorks who didn’t exploit start talking shit. No one gets banned. Exploit is quietly patched. People *could* get banned, but I don’t think it’s likely.
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>>57289661
>Half of the last 3 threads have been literal ERP but squirreljak crosses the line
I hate the autistic so much
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>>57289680
Sexy pokegirl > Reddit slop
Simple as
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>>57289664
the way I see it not taking any action is worse PR for them since they'll look like pushovers that don't enforce their own ToS
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Anyone who ever sent a friend request to a godpack account should be banned, have their account deleted and get summarily executed
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>>57289697
This except for me
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Real thread here
>>57289702
>>57289702
>>57289702
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>>57289679
>You wouldn’t see such a large volume of people exploiting the system if it was better.
Yes you would kids with too much time on their hand would do anything for more free virtual items
You have people setting up fully automated GP farming bots, people scripting friend requests, that's how much they want those jpegs
Don't turn it into some kind of social commentary on the game's design it's really just people being greedy
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>caring this much about a fucking pic that you need a new thread
autism is one step below down syndromen
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>>57289704
Kys autist
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>>57289687
I'm not really saying they won't enforce it going forward. Just there's a lot of hysteria right now about a mass ban wave coming or whatever.

If you have *already* participated in this, you're good, you're not going to get banned. You probably shouldn't anymore after this broad warning if you value your account, but you'd most certainly get a warning before they actually give you a ban anyway. It's always easier for companies to veer on the side of being a pushover than authoritarian. They do care because people paying for private godpack picks means less paypigs are buying gold to get those godpacks manually. But they aren't going to just start shooting the gun upfront and taking people down before advance notice. The accounts with very little plausible deniability are at risk, but the solution to the problem isn't banning people for using the feature as it's designed - it's redesigning it to not be abusable. But if they can't even do that, they have no hope of being smart enough to actually track who's abusing with a degree of certainty needed to issue bans.
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>>57289697
It would be hilarious but the most they’ll get is a warning, repeat autoclickers will likely face a ban thoughbeit
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>>57289705
>biggest dicksword is at 120k members
>no telling how far those packs spread
You’re looking at hundreds of thousands of players actively exploiting the system. That’s not normal, especially when participation (for many of these retards) includes mindlessly clicking friend requests for hours just for a sub 50% shot at a card.

>it's really just people being greedy
Sure. But the appearance rate of 4-cost picks is arguably just as (if not more) greedy.
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>autist splits the thread because his mental disability prevents him from comprehending an image he dislikes
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You DID get the emblem before the event ended right?
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>>57289741
^^
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>>57289737
I really doubt they will do anything to make 2* cards/4 cost picks more available. They're making too much money to give a shit. They can't leave GP shit as it is because it's super visible and devalues the whale bait but there's no reason to do anything beyond that. Would be really nice if they did though
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Guys I'm scared to ask but what about trading?
I have enough pack points to buy pretty much all the common cards I'm still missing from both GA and MI but I feel like if trading comes out it's exactly what it will let you do, trade common cards for those you're missing
Alternatively I could use those points to buy EX cards I only have one of, for deck building
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>>57289741
Spectrumsisters I don’t feel so good…
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>>57289741
If you go in the other thread it’s literally just coomposters and autists just leave them there and enjoy this comfy thread without them for a change instead
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>>57289752
of course i did. last match was a nail-biter though
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whats the wonderpick discord
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>>57289758
I wouldn't spend any pack points until trading drops
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>>57289758
I have 1250+ points
Planning to blow it all on an FA Blastoise ex and use trading to get my second Venusaur and Blastoise. Wish they had just put a level requirement instead of tokens for trading but alt account abuse was always going to make things messy for everyone else
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>>57289765
>>57289741
>>57289713
I can tell this is all the same person LMAO
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why are we pretending like anyone on /vp/ isn't autistic
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>>57289757
>Would be really nice if they did though
I think it would dramatically improve the system. For those of us who have been playing from early release or the global launch, the normal wonder pick feature doesn’t provide much value. I’m ftp, and I noticed myself blowing picks just to keep the bar from filling back in early December.
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>>57289725
your reasoning isn't wrong, but you're only concentrating on the pro/con balance of keeping cheaters around from the cheater's point of view. dena also has to signal to all the whales who are trying to gun for rare cards in legit ways, and who would feel like they can just go for GPs if no action is taken, that its stance against GP abuse is strong
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>>57289768
discord.gg/pok
try not to get banned though ;)
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>>57289752
of course I did, got my first 5 wins consecutively, equipped the emblem to let the mewtwo meta slave NPCs I was ruining their streak on purpose, and finished the 15 wins total achievement with the same marowak deck
feels great to be a chad
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>>57289773
not everyone is as mentally ill as you
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>>57289775
This is a gacha tourist thread
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>>57289634
Based. What has been your fav(s) GP picks?
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>Spends multiple posts seething over the OP images for threads discussing a hyper-casual children's gacha
>"I'm not mentally ill"
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+1 post to make the thread die faster
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>>57289647
Start soulsilver with ultimate ironmon randomizer
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>>57289814
just over 200 posts to go
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pokemon?
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Aw yeah
Only missing crown mewtwo now
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>>57289769
I just checked and they're seriously releasing it on time (and it's up to 1 star as people were guessing)
Since no one was talking about it I assumed it would remain planned soon(tm) for a few more months still, then yeah no reason to spend pack points
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>>57289793
Anything that wasn’t a Planeta card. Thankfully, 20/26 were FA trainers or rainbow border FAs. Had a lot of neat “fails” where I would pull a 20% that I wasn’t trying for (got a playset of FA Erica this way).
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>>57289779
They're already doing this by issuing an @everyone notice on the front page and making examples out of the more egregious abusers. The kind of person who participated a few times isn't going to be thrown under the bus for this.

They have to run a line between both parties here. Satisfy whales and avoid the bad PR from Kotaku interviewing poor little billy who got banned for wanting to jerk off to leaf so badly he removed all his friends and spam invited godpack-kun so he could finally glaze his phone screen.

People will get banned. The people who will get banned will be the most obvious offenders, going forward. Accounts that look like actual players abusing the system will get warnings first (and banned if they keep on.) Accounts that have already participated are in the clear before this warning shot.

I work for a gacha game btw. I see the dumb shit corporate has to deal with internally around botters and cheaters. There's a certain degree of "they're part of the ecosystem too" they have to deal with.
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>>57289560
HAHA don't care, I'm getting my budding sexo right now.
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please dont patch godpicking i only have one more pokemon left to pick oh don't patch it oh please oh please oh please
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>>57289832
>I work for a gacha game btw
Huge if true
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>>57289846
My dad is DeNA
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>>57289842
>one pokemon left
If you wonderpicked that many godpacks you're probably getting banned
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where are the leaks in the op?
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>>57289832
give details of your job
not doubting just genuine interest if true
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>>57289552
When is the new set coming out?
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>playing against youtuber
>draw the worst cards imaginable and lose
They wouldn’t give them favourable draws to promote the game r-right?
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Is Pikachu in this game?
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>>57289863
They got deleted
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>>57289835
Based, post results
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>>57289768
zerobin dot net slash ?970fb42ca344e196#RLh7EVfymgMjnGv52k562HAlhAKgHvHOPML76JlqECY=

Or use /pok, only the best of intents from that anon :^)
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>>57289855
they wouldn't dare, im their best customer (0$)
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>>57289875
Got my first Leaf. Not bad, but I wanted a second Budding bud.
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>>57289832

School Idol Festival (rip) had a similar issue where a hacker managed to spread a modded version of the apk which let you roll on limited banners forever, hack infinite scores and so on and the outcome of that hacking wave was people who actually were players scratched by only getting a warning and low level accounts made for the sole purpose of grieving got banned outright

I guess since they already said they'll warn exploiters (though we don't know yet if they're really talking about WP farming or just RMT) most people won't really be affected by this
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Will there be sweeping bans? People running these godpack farms use vpns and proxies right? The only surefire way of catching their main accounts would be to see who's been friending the godpack bots constantly but that would also get everyone who don't run them but merely lurk in the discords
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>try fun new deck
>instantly slapped by metasweats and misty coinflips
Smackdown can’t come soon enough
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>>57289871
Is there a vod? I want to laugh at your loss
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FUCK DENA FUCK THIS SHIT I DIDNT EVEN FUCKING BREAK THEIR RULES, YOU CANT JUST START BANNING PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE FOUND A WAY AROUND YOUR CASHGRABBING GAMBLING WHALEBAITING BULLSHIT, FUCK THIS FUCKING GAME
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>>57289904
this is why we need ranked
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>>57289906
I imagine it’ll be in his next vid, my last 6 cards left were 2 pokeballs, 2 basics and 2 stage 1s I just drew shit and after shit and got rocked
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649 glass ready to launch. how about you fellas
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>>57289911
Ranked is cancer for a casual game
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>>57289914
61
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>>57289911
Just need a no-Ex mode for actual gameplay
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>>57289919
haha well it might feel late getting into the game now but surely they'll do an event for new players like you!
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It's too late. Dena need to simply concede defeat on their first expansion and make sure anti-godpicking measures are putting in place for the release of space-time.
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>>57289914
is there a confirmed date for new cards?
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>>57289921
>try noEX to see what the fuss is
>everyone is just playing meta no-EX decks like Golem/Blaine that are now even harder to counter
what is the actual point
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>>57289934
i have no idea why retard op didn't use this as the image
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>>57289937
Never was a point. Some retards simply get triggered by a specific, two-letter combination.
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>>57289943
He really needed to show his plebbit friends his super funny wojak
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>>57289928
lmoa you're getting banned bucko
hope the pictures you put out for this weren't too embarrassing
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>>57289947
You're weird
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Trading...?
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Double colorless energy is coming in a few days
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please let there be scizor
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>>57289903
>to see who's been friending the godpack bots constantly
People also leak the bot friend codes out of spite into normie spaces, there will be a lot of kids that don't know any better that will be caught by this, so I don't think it's a good idea. And even the bot accounts could be "real" because they are not modding the game client, they are just rerolling. Making a new account with a new fake device, etc, would be easy to do.
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>>57289963
youre gay
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>>57289937
>tired of playing meta
>go play anti meta
>anti meta has a meta of their own
highlander format can't come soon enough (it'll also have a meta of it's own)
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>>57289963
kek
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>>57289963
Still mad huh?
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Dialga is horrible with melmetal
If you go first your dialga is definitely dying after only one energy battery
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>>57289943
I really hope I don’t stay up until midnight like I did for MI’s release. Work the next day sucked balls
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>>57289966
Honestly that's how I know I'm safe, although I won't be doing it anymore either.
A lot of this player base are people who actually didn't know any better, and they are going to have a hard time differentiating that
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I miss the archive
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Soo instean of worrying about bans did you get everything you wanted from wp?
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>>57290000
nice quads
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>>57289915
TO GET RID OF THE SWEATY HARDS YOU STUPID NIGGER
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>jannoid has time to remove that shitpost
>doesn’t have time to remove the thread splitting coomthread
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>>57290000
Yes and then some
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>>57290003
Not really as I only started it a few days ago, but I at least have one of every FA trainer now, which cosmetically makes me happier than anything else
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>>57290000
I never got a FA Sabrina or Erika, but I started the game late and mostly picked for cards in the top decks.
I got all of what I wanted in that sense
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>>57290000
Missed out on FA Sabrina, but I have a playset of just about everything else that’s relevant (rainbow border Zapdos being the only exception). I’m content to watch the exploit sunset unless a really good FA Sabrina pack shows up. Those are almost always hoarded in pay-to-play circles now, though.
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>>57289987
Dialga is Wigglytuff support
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>>57290005
>LE SEXY IS BAD
Okaaaaaay
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>>57289972
It's not even that it has it's own meta. People are just playing decks that are already good enough to be meta in the normal mode even with the presence of EX
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WP discorders deserve to be banned because I didn't absue an easy exploit like everyone else with a iq higher than 90
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>>57290037
if you're stupid enough to care about virtual cardboard to the degree that you'll send out dickpics you deserve to be banned, for your own safety
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>>57290025
Those people are called pussies since they're afraid of just playing in regular ladder and would rather beat up on rank decks. I take good pleasure in beating these niggers up whenever I see them.
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>>57290045
Nobody actually sent dickpics (I hope)
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>>57289943
Fucking hell one more day? Gorillons must wait
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>>57290037
it would just be funny that's all kek
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>>57289943
>sitting on 987 pack glass
>shop reset coming (more glass)
>new solo matches (more glass)
>give zero shits for Sinnoh
Wake me up when we decide what the better booster is, and I’ll toss 240 glass its way before coasting on dailies.
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>>57289943
should I blow the 650+ load on this set or is a limited window one coming?
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>>57290037
It's ok to be mad we assessed the risk and are going to get away with it anon.
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>Greninja
>Serperior
Who's next? I'm thinking Incineroar
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>>57290080
They haven't had any limited window sets yet. I'd wait and see if you want to pull the cards or keep hoarding
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>>57290088
patterntism tells me Infernape but it shouldbe already included so I think Typhlosion is possible

Anyway I'm so hyped for Magnezone, Porygon2 & Z, Magmortar and Evire, Tangrowth too (lickylicky i guess). I fucking love Sinnoh
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>>57289943
im in the uk so wednesday at 6 am like normal? Or is this west coast american shit and it’s actually thursday on the 30th for the majority of the world
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i saw it coming but still sucks i'm just missing a zapdos to get the birb secret mission :(
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>>57290088
oh boy a fire starter this time with an annoying fucking ability
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>>57290103
>chimchar card shown prominently in trailer
>bros bros! What if le infernape is actually in bro!
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>>57290112
I didn't see it, chill discordsister
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>>57289560
are you guys still godpicking after this or nah
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>>57290078
Have you spent any of your pack glass at all?
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>>57290128
Ask me again when my WP stamina hits 4
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no fucking way they robbed my boy Palkia so hard. Misty sentenced Water type to be energy hungry. I refuse to use Misty but without it Palkia EX is unusable, Gyarados EX is better in almost anyway. Fuck this shit I hope regular Palkia is not gamble reliant
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a daily reminder that you are more likely to be shot in nyc than get a godpack in this game
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>>57290139
palkia being more similar to farfetch really puts into perspective the retardness of comparing it to gyara ex
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>>57290145
It's a pikachu and two raichus taped together.
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>>57290145
>4 energy for 140 and 1 discard, 180 hp
>4 energy for 150 and 3 discard, 150 hp
also it's a worse Mewtwo. fuck M*sty
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Holy fuck palkia is THIS strong?!
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>>57290139
at least he'll get an immersive animation and piss colored crown card
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>>57290133
In the beginning, yeah. My first account rolled 2 immersive Pika on the first day, and I’ve been coasting ever since. I have purchased one month of premium, and with that + normal dailies, I can make almost any deck. Missing random stuff like a second copy of Egg ex or a copy of Marowak ex.

Might renew premium if a particularly enticing set releases, but I might not. The 2 star rates are incredibly jewish. However, the game makes it pretty easy to get the cards you need to play.
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I find hilarious how people pretend English cards are somehow valuable.

French, Chinese and English are the trifecta of discord botted cards and até equally worthless
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>>57290139
>>57290156
You guys are assuming we won't get an energy recovery card like pic rel in form of a trainer or something

It's very likely that we will since otherwise Palkia is DoA
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Which do I craft, 2* Sabrina or Misty?
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>>57290165
Giovanni
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>>57290165
Sabrina can be a 1of, misty is always a pair.
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>>57290165
Do you need to pull more on either set?
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>>57290156
the 4 energy attack might as well not be there, in fact it's a slight nerf just to make it weak to mew
palkia is a 30dmg beater
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>>57290164
exp share probably
it’s been in almost every set since it came out
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>>57290174
that's extremely depressing
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>Mewtwo? leave him to me
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>>57290139
There’ll be a poketool or mon that stops you from having to discard energy
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>>57290163
>I find hilarious how people pretend English cards are somehow valuable.
It’s funnier that you seem to care how other people play. Nothing wrong with wanting your collection (in a game about collecting) to look a certain way. Personally, I think mismatched cards look like shit unless the goal is to collect all language variants.
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>>57290179
please an ex please an ex please an ex
we got pachirisu ex and it will be perfect for the diamond pack and purugly for the pearl pack
please an ex
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>>57290176
it's not flashy for sure, but if it makes palkia one of the premiere frontliners I'm not going to complain
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>>57290179
I'm ready to stinkmax
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>>57290180
I'm actually not ok with that, but Volc would become usable
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>>57290000
I'm missing Giovanni and Erika, as well as being indifferent to Brock and Surge.
But I do have 1250 points so I might go back to pulling GA in a month or so and snatch one to buy the other.
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>>57290191
that's the faggiest domestication one could think of. I prefer cool cards, even at the expense of being somewhat gimmicky
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>>57290194
It’ll be a stage 1 or 2 that lets you flip to avoid it
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arceus doko
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So Honchkrow is better Lumineon and Leafeon is grass Ninetales
Both could see some play for sure
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>>57290202
You can still run Palkia with Vaporeon and Starmie if you want to shoot off its second attack. Palkia has lots of advantages over Gyarados in that build. It's basic, so you don't need three evolution lines. It can attack as a lead if you don't manage to get Starmie early. It can OHKO basically anything with a Giovanni, even Charizard.

It feels like that's probably the intended use for Palkia.
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>>57290214
I'll try. Palkia EX + Lumineon sounds troll
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>>57290212
>better lumineon
it has a retreat cost so no
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>>57290139
He's an early game tank and damage dealer that once you retreat you can convert into win condition later on if you keep feeding him energy or use with vaporeon. Will be an extremely good card.
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>>57290224
so fragile that it's barely an issue, being able to attack active mon is massive
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>>57290214
I've been playing double articuno with vaporeon and it's actually really consistent, even when you get double tails on misty you still can transfer the energies to the second articuno and retreating for free with leaf, it's def not meta since articuno is kinda shitty rn but with an otherwise stronger attacker like palkia it could work
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>>57290139
It's not impossible Dialga/Palkia get dedicated support, similar to how Mew EX got Budding Breasts (male). Especially since tools are a big new gimmick in the set and they both have dedicated held items in the games.
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>>57290225
Newsflash buddy, that's not my playstyle so he's shit.
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>>57290225
yeah put this way it sounds quite nice, Leaf enables so many things
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>>57290225
>>57290239
>Starmie EX 2W up front
>Vaporeon in the bench on in hand (or eevee down)
>Palkia EX in your hand ready to unleash a "surprise" 150 and 20 in bench
sounds fucking strong
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>>57290235
>get dedicated support,
Orb Pokémon Tools incoming.
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>>57289937
Not my experience at all, I played against some really funky shit on there
like hypno-cramorant-dugtrio, quite funny but those 5 coinflips per turn would get old very fast if it was meta
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what's the verdict on Pachirisu EX?
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>>57290266
Pikachu without the benched mons but need a poketool, if theres a poketool for extra damage could be meta
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>>57290266
It might replace Zapdos.
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is anyone else not spooked by that announcement earlier this day ?
im still missing a few FA cards and will probably continue with the god packs
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>>57290266
see
>>57290271
It depends on the tools we get
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>>57290037
You have to realize they're dopamine neural pathways are completely fried, they wouldn't be able to play this game normally without it. Honestly if they do crack down and somehow put an end to gp wp farming I'd say half of the people in this thread would move on, they just don't have the brain chemistry to survive vanilla
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>>57290266
Impossible to say without seeing tools.
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>>57290278
Not really, they won't ban anyone for this, only the people that sell and RMT the accounts.
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>>57290164
We'll almost certainly get it since energy now appears in your graveyard, I don't remember that being a thing since about a week or two ago
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>>57290278
I just blew all my stamina on that 4 leaf pack, so I'm waiting for the schizobabble to blow over and see what actually happens. I have a couple of days.
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>turn 7
>i have drawn 1 (one) basic and 0 (zero) pokeballs
Surely there is a way to stop this
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>>57290272
I don't know. Part of Zapdos' appeal is not being weak to Fighting plus being a last-ditch hail mary to coinflip your way to victory. I think you might see 1x Zapdos and 1x Pachirisu instead of 2x Pachirisu completely replacing 2x Zapdos.
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>>57290266
>max 80 dmg, +10 with giovanni
crap unless there's a tool that gives it tons of damage.
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>>57290281
I will go back to playing normally, I don't know how much I'm going to spend going forward though. After initial discovery of it it's just some extra thing you do every 48 hours anyway
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>>57290266
Well since Volkner is a given I kinda expect Luxray and at least one poketool to go with them. I don't really see the point of Pachi in regular pika/surge teams though.
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So the play is to skip opening my afternoon pack tomorrow so I have an extra free pull for when the new set releases right
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>>57290299
Depends on whether the tools we get are worth the deck space in Pikachu decks. If you only add 2 tools to the deck Pachirisu is basically just a basic waiting to draw its Stage-1
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>>57290298
Yes its called the law of large numbers and playing more matches.
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>>57290266
Probably just going to be used as a replacement for Pikachu in electric decks that want to use colorless Pokemon like Tauros and Farfetch'd.
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>>57290321
doubt there's going to be enough space to play a lot of basics for pika + staples + enough tools for pachirisu. I think it's much more probable that pachirisu will be run alongside jolteon, which is another strong electric with antisynergy with pika, though ultimately it'll depend on the tools' quality
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honestly I don't know how to feel about tools
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>>57290319
yeah just figure out when your packs open and rig it that you have 2 free packs for 1 am eastern when the new set drops
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>>57290341
Why would you? They're not out yet
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>>57290344
More game complexity is cool, but it adds an extra rng layer
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>>57290343
I've got my.pulls pretty much syncd up with the daily reset so I can do the dailies for my free hourglasses right at the reset so the timers are easy to figure out thankfully.
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>>57290355
more complexity = higher skill ceiling
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>>57290294
>GPsperg
>I have a couple of days.
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>>57290321
I think people speculating about how it will work in Pika are off-base. The deck doesn't particularly need a third Pikachu. It's more likely decks will have to choose between Pikachu and Pachirisu based on which deckbuilding constraint they want to build around.
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>>57290357
>I've got my.pulls pretty much syncd up with the daily reset so I can do the dailies for my free hourglasses right at the reset so the timers are easy to figure out thankfully.
yeah you don't want to miss any potential free pulls (aka be more than 12 hours off synch)

wish you could set the time for when your pulls go live short of not pulling until you want to.
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>>57290363
There's no real basis to GPfags having a couple more days, but not exactly tons to go off to say they don't either. Until bans/warnings actually start happening we don't really know shit
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>>57290318
This is just speculation since they weren't announced but since both GA and MI followed this pattern of having gym leaders released as support for their arctypes we'd expect another stage 1 line electric pokemon to be released, and those 2 would be the next gen's electric deck.
2 Volkner
2 Luxio
2 Luxray
2 Pachirisu
2+ Tools
And the rest would be staples we already have.
But yeah this is just hopium they actually keep following this line of gym leaders as support.
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Yeah something to think about is that there should be new deck archetypes that displace or compete with the current ones.
It's not gonna be the case that you just put a 1of of the new cards into an old deck and it magically performs significantly better.
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>>57290398
Shinxbros...
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>>57290104
>no one knows
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>>57290318
Since there are only two packs, it's likely we're only getting 4-6 supporters. So I don't expect the whole roster of gym leaders. Especially since we know Cynthia is one of them.
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I did not care for Mythical Island
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Well we gor a Leaf waifu card, will we get a Dawn waifu card to go with it?
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>>57290398
>>57290414
I hope they don't go overboard with the support unless they bring something new to the table everytime and not just "brock but for X type". Still, it could lead to balancing issues so it's better for them to show restrain
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>>57290412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmHw30ty1MA says 29th so I assume it's that reset, which would be 30th in Japan. In my brief look I didn't find anything with an actual timezone though
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>>57290432
>balancing issues when Misty exists
Kek
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>>57290415
No one did.
>Misty decks more cancerous with Vaporeon/Gyarados
>Mewtwo decks more cancerous with slab and Mew
>Celebi is entirely cancer
>Druddigon is cute but no deck that actually gives him energy is viable
>Pidgeot ex+Flute is the absolute worst
>Aerodactyl is nearly unplayable, but even then, just annoying
>Leaf, Blue, and Expeditioner are just kind of there
>New Golem is still a pain to set up
If the new ser doesn't result in a healthy meta or if Creature bans me for adding a few WP friends despite never once actually getting one to show up I'm quitting.
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>>57290426
Probably. The physical TCG generally doesn't do player characters unless it has a reason to, but DeNa knows waifus sell.
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Any erikas gps?
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I'll be able trade away my 5 muks...right?
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>>57290437
All Misty needs is to change
>Energy Zone
to
>Discard Pile
and the riots would end.
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>>57290440
>Aerodactyl is nearly unplayable, but even then, just annoying
Have you been in a coma?
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>>57290444
I'll take one if I have something you need. I got nothing I actually fucking need from trading so whatever.
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>>57290426
I would cum so hard
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>>57290446
Energies aren't cards in this game they don't go to the discard pile.
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>>57290455
Leaf and Dawn combo is deadly
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>>57290415
It insists upon Celebi
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>>57290432
Yeah but we already have balancing issues since Misty exists, and meanwhile every other trainer is limited to 2-3 mons.
Like if they keep adding new trainers every gen but with restraining their power to very specific mons that surely would also restrain deckbuilding but also would prevent incidents like Misty from happening again.
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>>57290457
Check your discard pile the next time one of your mons is KOed or you use a discard attack, retard.
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>>57290457
There is an indicator for discarded energy in the discard pile in game. I'm too lazy to screenshot it.
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>>57290463
>>57290464
Huh, well that makes no fucking sense
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>>57290459
I found out recently "it insists upon itself" was Seth McFarlene being too stupid to understand one of his teachers was complaining that The Sound of Music constantly shoving its message in the audience's face, so he decided it was a meaningless criticism and put it in Family Guy.
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>>57290460
>incidents like Misty
It was on purpose. Dev love for Misty is simply too strong.
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>>57290415
It was a disappointing expansion, for sure. Biggest issue is that Gyarados/Drudd fucked the matchup spread for most decks so hard that you either build to beat it or accept a really bad matchup. Worse, this is likely not a problem that will be fixed anytime soon. Nonzero percent chance that Drudd-style archetypes continue to force bench hitters into a lot of decks.
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>>57290415
Mythical Island brought about a better and more healthy meta than Genetic Apex did, and I believe that Space-Time Smackdown will have the same effect.
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>>57290437
>>57290460
imagine every type having a Misty equivalent
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>>57290444
Yes, it's the only kantomon I'm still missing for Mew
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>>57290469
Your complaint insists upon itself
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>>57290278
I don't think they'll ban everyone who did it, but they are more not unlikely to ban continued abusers.
CBA to look up which rule it was but there is one that says "anything that we announced not to do is a bannable offence" so there's that.
Plus I got almost everything I wanted.
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>>57290494
Misty should realistically have been for Magikarp/Gyrados only, they should fix it
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>>57290503
You mean Starmie/Goldeen?
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>>57290483
based knower
the only thing I'm a little unhappy about is gyarados having just a tad too much hp, but that may just be extended misty salt
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>>57290272
I think Voltorb/Electrode would be replaced first.
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>The 4 Level 2 Godpack accounts I had on my friendslist have vanished
Um…g-guys?..
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>>57290514
rip anon
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>>57290278
No one will get banned. If they wanted godpacks to be different they would change the way WP works, not ban thousands of accounts for friend requesting people.

Ignore the shitposting fearmongers thirsting for (You)s.
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>>57290514
RIP
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>>57290514
why didn't you unfriend them you fucking troglodyte
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If anyone's getting banned it's the people making dozens of alts to farm the godpacks not the people adding them to their friends lisrs.
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>>57290483
Like seriously most replies are shitters who get hard walled by druddigon and celebi. They disregard the fact that because of MI introducing good counter cards like Marshadow and Mew a single deck can't dominate the entire meta. GA was aids since the meta was just Pikachu and Mewtwo.
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>>57290514
>it’s real
surely they’ve banned them but won’t ban regular users just for friending them? otherwise i’m done with this shitty game no way am i starting over
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>>57290522
Why would I? They were just sitting there
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daily reminder that you;re going from dopamine every 2 days to dopamine every 15~20 days with the current rates.
they're pretty much putting us in chastity and forcing us to pay money in order to get some release.
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>>57290523
Jus think logically for a second here. How are they going to ban people making hundreds/thousands of alt accounts, when those accounts get deleted or abandoned by the emulator 5 minutes after they are made?
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>>57290531
M2 is way more oppressive now, doofus. GA Pika was a problem, but it was always going to resolve itself unless some really good lightning basics released. Subjectively, I enjoy Pika games more than M2 or Gyara.

>MI introducing good counter cards like Marshadow and Mew
To give the set credit, I like these cards. I just don’t think the meta was shaken up in a fun way. It’s now more of a “lose during matchmaking” game.
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>>57290531
>most replies are shitters who get hard walled by druddigon and celebi
Trvke.

>[Mewtwo/Pikachu/Celebi/Gyarados/Charizard/Mistycuno/Hitmonlee/Exeggutor]
is way better than
>[Mewtwo/Pikachu]
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>>57290415
It was good other than Celebi being pure cancer
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>>57290471
>WPsperg seething over his incoming ban
I’ll be reporting every one I see
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I don't know why people here complain about Celebi so much. I'm not someone who cares what sort of deck someone plays or who tries to attribute (negative) personality types based on the deck a person is currently playing, but there is one thing I have definitely noticed, and it's that Celebi is the most likely of any deck to make an egregious misplay that costs them the game.

Why would you complain about people who hand you free wins?
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>>57290580
I jus be cooking these YNs with blaine lmaooo
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>>57290580
I'm mad about Celebi because I play Celebi and don't get heads
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>>57290546
>dead week before content is dead, only saved by an exploit
I'm used to it, I'll just play other games instead of spamming send invite for 3 hours.
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It finally happened. Mewtwo has finally been officially dethroned, at least for now.
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>>57290561
>Charizard/Mistycuno/Exeggutor
>Mythical Island
Is this bait? Nothing really changed for these decks outside of Zard having a decent Gyara matchup.
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>>57290578
How?
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>>57290580
I don’t hate Celebi, but I’ve had just as many games where my Celebi opponent got fucked despite playing well as games where I lost to a clearly bad player due to lucky Celebi flips. Seems unsatisfying for both players.
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It's fine you chuds
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>>57290599
>Is this bait?
No, anon.
>Nothing really changed for these decks outside of [thing that changed with MI].
Imagine that!
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>>57290580
I hate shitters who take 10 mins to flip their coins because of some weird ritual they think will work.
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>>57290546
>daily reminder that you;re going from dopamine every 2 days
desu the coinflips while playing this game are so disgustingly huge that I get the same kind of dopamine hit from rolling 4 heads on Misty that I would from pulling a Crown card.
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>>57290546
>daily reminder that you;re going from dopamine every 2 days to dopamine every 15~20 days with the current rates.
I don't understand what this is supposed to mean. Are they stopping the two free pulls a day thing?
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>>57290610
So…it’s bait? No changes were listed in my post for two of the decks, and it doesn’t seem fair to list Egg / Celebi as separate builds.
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>>57290546
>daily reminder that you;re going from dopamine every 2 days to dopamine every 15~20 days with the current rates.
yeah we're all gonna be addicts if this keeps up.

I remember going nuts when MI dropped and I got full arts and signature cards in my first 5-10 packs.
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Nobody except bots are getting banned
Justice doesn't exist in this world
Discord won
>>
Out.
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>>57290599
As a zard player leaf makes a big difference
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>>57290619
>So…it’s bait?
We've already been over this, anon. No, things that you disagree with (though actually, admittedly, you at least slightly agree with) are not bait.
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>>57290627
It does, true. Zard was still highly relevant in GA.
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>>57290618
No, it takes 2 days (48 hr) to earn 4 WP stamina.
So right now you can get a god pack WP every other day.
Without god pack farms, you (ideally) just check on your WP list and hopefully find a pack with 1 or 2 1-star-or-better cards, where you have a 1/5 or 2/5 chance to pull something good.
If your odds are 1/5, it means every 10 days. If you get 2/5 packs, then it's every 5 days or so.
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>he’s pretending to be me again
How many days has he been melting down now?
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Stop getting upset about them banning godpacking.
Just start demanding they increase the rate of the good wonderpacks appearing. Detect how many people pick any given pack, and show that pack to more people.
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>>57290638
>Stop getting upset about them banning godpacking.
It's like they thought they were going to be allowed to exploit the game forever.

They should've known this was coming and prepared for the consequences.
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>he's having a melty because he's pretending to be him (actually me and I) again
LOL
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>the monthly shop hourglasses don't even get you six packs per month
Th-thanks
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>4/5 Leaf godpack guy deleted his post
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>>57290656
>save up hourglasses
>new set releases
>open packs until you get the meta
>get the new meta
>stop opening packs with hourglasses
>save up hourglasses
>new set releases
>open packs until you get the meta
>stop opening packs with hourglasses
it's not that hard.
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>4x leaf god pack host deleted his post
I didn't get in in time...
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>>57289702
>>57289702
>>57289702
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>>57290665
You must realize that most people are not actually people, and that they will keep pulling the Skinner Box lever long after they have everything they could possibly want.
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>>57290674
That's okay. Maybe someday we'll get Green's Exploration.
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>>57290680
>You must realize that most people are not actually people, and that they will keep pulling the Skinner Box lever long after they have everything they could possibly want.
"noooo! i must keep pulling from this set for the tiny percentage chance of getting the crown card! it doesn't matter I'm losing out on making the new meta decks and i won't be able to get new hourglasses from missions! I neeeeeeeeeeed that card!"
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>>57290634
>>57290651
I can't keep up with this shit.
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>>57290680
m8 I got like 8 fucking celebis by the time I got to 500 pack points and basically nothing else fuck u pidgeot you don't count
I kinda had to keep pulling
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>>57290546
I don't care about GP gacha shittery and enjoy building my own decks
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Fucking around with GP WPs today netted me these two. Only card I really want left is full art Sabrina. But overall a very productive day for my collection! Gonna start adding some japs from pvp to make my account less suspicious for when they eventually start dropping the hammer on people for simply exploiting a hole in their shitty friend wonder pick system.
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>>57289943
because this is 3 days old and has already been used as a thread image
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>>57290415
Some of the new items and trainers were neat to shake up the meta. Mew ex is always a fun wild card to have in psychic decks. Celebi decks are pure scum and I spit at every 'person' who uses it as their main deck.
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>>57289560
You could add these:
>I will ONLY be warned... BECAUSE!
>it will only target those other guys, not me
>I-it was totally worth it, you're just jelly.

>>57289871
Hearthstone does it, so why not.
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>>57291013
>I will ONLY be warned... BECAUSE!
Because I spent money.
Same as every other gatcha, they don't bite the hands that feed
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My phone too slow to use this app
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>>57291682
The chances of f2p bans + whale warnings is pretty high
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>people are still baiting and falling for bait about """bans"""



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