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Big Melons Edition!
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>spats stay on even at the beach
Nice
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I love them so much, bros...
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>>58213597
Sometimes I wonder if Sapphire being retarded meme is overplayed, but then I remember how at the point in RS where she's explored to her greatest depth (Mirage Island), Kusaka literally says she doesn't think.
>Juan uses a coin test to psychoanalyze Ruby and Sapphire
>Ruby has weak "intuition"
>he's disconnected from his emotions and the spiritual
>so he compensates by overthinking with "careful reasoning"
>"careful reasoning" is how Ruby figures out his morals
>Sapphire has strong "intuition"
>she's deeply connected to her emotions and the spiritual
>"intuition" is how she knows her morals
>she just feels it
>she literally doesn't think

The fact Sapphire doesn't (over)think like Ruby does is portrayed as a good thing in the magic spiritual context of their PokeUniverse, where their gods are objectively real. But at the end of the day, she is both actually "stupid" and her "stupidity" is a huge part of her character.

But if she was suddenly dropped into an alternate universe where the narrative is that gods don't exist, Sapphire would just be retarded full stop with no recourse. She'd just look actually mentally disabled. On the other hand Ruby would suddenly be the enlightened athiest character, vindicated by his "careful reasoning" (logic) similar to a lot of contemporary postmodern media, especially from the west.

Either way Ruby and Sapphire are at opposite extremes when it comes to how their minds work. The RS arc implied they should be working together anyway to balance out their extremes, since even if Sapphire had the moral high ground she is still stupid.
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>>58215875
>Ta-da!
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Current /mg/ drawfag project: drawing Mays in all Pokemon types! Entries accepted for types that haven't been covered yet. No deadline.

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>>58216093
That grass type May is wild.
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requesting may with gigantic tits being mogged by another may with even bigger tits (like twice as big)
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>>58215933
Unrelated but what do you make of the scene in vol 22 where Sapphire bursts into tears after seeing the Trick Master again? I was always confused since reading that page as a child. Is it meant to be Sapphire finally breaking down her mental walls or her being moved.

The way it's presented always looked more like a "joke" or gag.
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>>58216473
it's honestly a genius design
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>>58216535
No doubt about that!
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>>58216523
>Sapphire finally breaking down her mental walls or her being moved.
Yes it's supposed to be this.

>The way it's presented always looked more like a "joke" or gag.
But comes off like this. What is THE major emotional development for her (finally opening up) looks like a joke, because it happens at the literal worst possible time in the entire story.

1 - The RS arc has 87 whole chapters, but the one time Sapphire is shown displaying this major emotional vulnerability (straight up crying) happens right after Norman's corpse gets cremated right in front of Ruby. So her feelings look trivial compared to whatever Ruby is going through at the time.

2 - The "joke" feeling could be intentional. There's a trend in RS where Sapphire's given comedic relief scenes following Ruby's serious scenes, as a tonal palate cleanser. The first main example is in Mauville (chapter 203) where Sapphire coincidentally meets the Trick Master there too. Since Ruby just had a serious moment, I guess Kusaka made Sapphire's next scene look funny to release some tension. But that decision just caused way more issues than solved them.

3 - The moment's significance is also ruined because Sapphire's crying in front of the most irrelevant stupid looking background character in the story (Trick Master) who barely knows her. The Trick Master also brings along his equally stupid robot invention that looks like a shitpost fakemon. Sapphire should be having this vulnerable moment in front of someone she's actually close to, like her dad or Ruby, even Winona would've worked better, as these characters would actually notice what a big deal this is for Sapphire. Instead of the Trick Master looking at her crying then going "well ermmmm that was awkward xD"
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>>58216632
4 - This moment happens a few chapters after Sapphire basically gets written out of the action, so her suddenly deciding to cry looks terrible ("oh great now she's totally useless") instead of a positive triumphant natural conclusion to her character arc ("in the past she sometimes reacted to stress by yelling at people, but now she can process things without lashing out"). Even worse, Sapphire's stuck in a car (not even as its driver but as a passenger) and can't go help Ruby because Kusaka said so, and now the Trick Master has to wait for her to stop bawling before he can help her, she can't do it herself. This is actually the worst point since it completely undermines her whole character arc: Sapphire reconnecting with her femininity is supposed to be a net positive, but the way it's presented in this context, makes it look completely negative instead. Whenever someone says Sapphire got "ruined" desu I think they're just referring to the sheer confusion this single scene creates, as it contradicts the whole RS arc's own ass narrative.

Anyway this is part of why the RS arc feels like it was running out of time by the end. The awful placement of this milestone in Sapphire's arc is the kind of retarded mistake a writer in a rush would make. Especially considering nearly everything that came before volume 22 was mostly well organized, but also a bit rushed, then the pacing hit the point of no return during volume 22 before it started to crash.
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>>58216635
Thanks, I caught up to vol 22 now that I'm home. I'll let you know my impressions of R+S in Emerald arc when I get to it, I'm on vol 23 now.
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It's weird that I like May a lot while not being exactly fond of Sapphire?
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>>58216710
Sapphire's personality is a bit extreme compared to other versions of May, so she's not for everyone.
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>>58196746
Yellow and Gold are controversial?
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>>58216710
It's the opposite for me.
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>>58216950
It's been nearly two decades and I. I still can't believe how ridiculous her hip game is
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>>58216981
Go look at the replies to that post you replied to. It's already been explained.
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>>58215226
I want to be May in my next life!
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>>58213542
>Ruby was about to give her a post-coital hot bath, but in a moment of retardation Sapphire jumped out the window.
>>58213630
>Not sure but they did it in both holes, so that time it counted.
In the midst of all this extreme sexo, does Ruby ever do anything tamer, like just having Sapphire blow him? All these RuSa sexo scenarios have an overabundance of anal with occasional vaginal, but very little oral discussion.

Same for the SatoHaru sexo discussion desu. Ash covertly banging May while she's working as a nurse behind doors or desks is hot and all, but getting his dick sucked by a fully uniformed Nurse May while she's on the clock also sounds really hot. The dick sucking can be combined with paizuri, but it's still hot on its own. IDK, I just feel a lack of oral sex in the thread when there are descriptions of May and Sapphire getting banged.
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>>58215226
I want to be May's spats in my next life!
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>>58213421
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>>58215226
Does she swim in her spats too?
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>>58217091
You will be the bacteria in her spats that gives her a yeast infection
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>>58217084
When is it coming God?
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>>58217312
Of course.
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>>58217090
The lack of oral discussion is because of circumstance. If May is a nurse and Ash is in the hospital, then it means he's injured and oral would just injure him further. Meanwhile if Sapphire blowed Ruby, her fangs would turn his dick into a chewed up straw if she doesn't chomp it off entirely.
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>>58217368
>If May is a nurse and Ash is in the hospital, then it means he's injured and oral would just injure him further.
That was just one scenario mentioned. Another discussed was simply Ash being in the hospital not as a patient, but as a doctor or May's assistant or just there hanging out, out of sight from others, banging May while she tries to work. Though, if he's a patient, I'm sure getting his dick sucked by Nurse May would do wonders to help him get better!
>Meanwhile if Sapphire blowed Ruby, her fangs would turn his dick into a chewed up straw if she doesn't chomp it off entirely.
Ruby loves Sapphire enough to not mind some love bites!
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>>58217090
There's a lack of oral sex because the spats aren't on that area of the body.
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>>58217391
But you can grope her spats-covered butt while she sucks
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>>58217368
>>58217391
I just think May's a good dick sucker and is underappreciated for it.
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>ywn be fattened up by a May with huge hugs
Why live
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>>58217404
The only acceptable oral from May would be 69 with the spats on.
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>>58217387
To give an oral spin to it, what if Ash is hiding behind the front desk of the Pokémon Center and eating Nurse May out (through her spats, of course!) during her working hours?
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>>58217318
>not wanting to give May some free bread
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Booty
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>>58216706
Enjoy the FRLG angst and shirtless Red.

>>58216981
Is this not common knowledge? Or maybe the schism between the pre BW2 and post BW2 Pokespe readerbase is bigger than I remembered. Newer English readers (or at least the ones who are annoying online) have some insane takes which were completely unheard of decades earlier, and aren't even unique to any specific website/platform since I've seen them everywhere.
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>>58217642
This just sounds like terminally online retards shitting everything up.
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>>58217657
Many such cases
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>>58216722
I'm fine with her being a Tarzan May, I just never liked how PokeSpe fans belittled anime May (which is the May I love the most) to make Sapphire seem superior.
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>>58217686
It's so tiresome >>58217460
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>>58217719
AniMay has a pretty strong team, considering that she's not a gym challenger, though.
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>>58217642
Bro
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>>58217719
I never liked how animefags permanently ruined discussion about both game May and the entire game universe, but I got over it. Anime May herself is fine and I like how successful she ended up inside the anime universe.
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>>58217745
Trying to make a product appeal to the entire world comes with a lot of problems. Especially when you think your target audience is changing so you change the product to appeal to them more. Which explains all the shilling of brown characters and lesbians over the past few years
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>>58217387
>getting the suck
>cartoon bite sound effect.mp3
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>>58218092
If he was getting sucked by a cavewoman dommy mommy like Sapphire I'm pretty sure it's scientifically impossible for his cock to not be too hard to be pierced or cut
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>>58217642
I read through Pokespe many times, never liked the FRLG arc, but it's the best of the remake arcs (not a high bar).

Not that I think of it, it's shit Winona was also relegated to damsel in distress after disappearing during the warp to Mirage Island. Wallace gets all the attention at the end. I think that also hurt Sapphire's character arc during the climax. Ironically, Blue (f) I always found to be one of the better handled parts of FRLG.
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>>58218546
One member of the DPPt trio gets killed off. Which two do you keep?
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>>58218546
Winona was never a great Sapphire mentor anyway because she barely teaches Sapphire anything besides how to get divorced. In fact Winona could even represent the failure of bureaucracy to be effective when it matters, and how Sapphire not caring about laws and rules made her more effective. The Wallace/Ruby parallel doesn't map perfectly onto the Winona/Sapphire parallel either even though Kusaka pretends it does. In RS Ruby actually has a dozen mentors while Sapphire didn't need anywhere as much guidance, probably since she wasn't a PokeAtheist to begin with.

That said Brawly both trained Sapphire and when she was having a tsundere fit, he actually told her to open up emotionally to her friends. Sadly he stopped being relevant after his gym fight. But maybe this just says a lot about how Sapphire's RS character arc was executed in a clunkier more unorganized way compared to Ruby's.

I also barely remember FRLG desu but Blue (f) deserves a win for once. Kind of like how Luckyshipping seems to be winning.

>>58219181
Dia and Pearl, bros before hoes (unless they go bankrupt)
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>>58219459
>IT'S NOT LIKE THAT!! I DON'T HAVE FEELINGS FOR HIM OR NOTHIN'!
Lmao, Sapphire is somehow even more obvious than Anime!Serena. That's pretty funny ngl.
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>>58219479
I LOVE STURDY LEGS ON ATHLETIC GIRLS HRAAAAAAAH
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>>58219961
Nah, this ain't it.
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May is big! BIG!
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>>58217299
When would the halfway point be for this? May 182.5st?
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>>58219961
bigger
please
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>>58219459
>I also barely remember FRLG desu but Blue (f) deserves a win for once. Kind of like how Luckyshipping seems to be winning.
I'm almost done with the arc. It's biggest flaw is it trips over its own theme on family/legacy. Blue, Green, Silver and Giovanni all have their family and bonds as their reason to be involved in the plot with differing attitudes. But Red is the protagonist, and he has no such links beyond his pride as a "Dex Holder", which is something none of the previous arcs ever gave a shit about. iirc, Red is mentioned to have a mother in supplementary material so I don't see why Kusaka just used her as a plot device to gaud Red into fighting.

It's also really dumb that Giovanni openly says he's using Deoxys to find his son and the reaction of the Kanto Dexholders is pure apathy and Green (m) seething about how Giovanni wrote a book about ground types once.
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>>58219967
This is it. MAYGA May. Mega Thicc.
>>58220051
Misty can't even compete
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>>58219982
I bet she doesn't even realize how much of a big fat titcow she is desu
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>>58220114
Yeah desu I remember FRLG being "the arc that tried to give Pokespe Red angst" but he never had angst before so it's just weird. Maybe Kusaka wanted FRLG to be like RS, but the protagonists in RS (Ruby and Sapphire) were designed from the ground up to be le deep, while Red at least in RGB/Y was never that complicated. Which isn't even a bad thing, it's just in FRLG they're trying to squish Red into a role he doesn't fit I guess.

I can barely remember the HGSS arc either so take this with a brain of salt. But I remember thinking something similar was happening to HGSS Gold, where he's suddenly having angst, except it worked better than Red angst since GSC had (poorly) established that Gold had these issues prior. But where HGSS Gold's development from here hit a wall is where he knows he must mature if he wants respect, but his whole gimmick is being an immature delinquent to a degree. So there's only so much he can change without losing his marketable appeal. So the HGSS story ends up being about Gold and his Togepi's relationship instead and Arceus hating everyone or something.

But looking at the character arc Kusaka seemed to be trying to recreate, RS Ruby could change so much because he was written to do so from the start. He didn't get an angsty character arc slapped onto him long after his debut like Red or Gold, from the start of RS Ruby was always unstable and on the verge of change, heading towards a direction planned out long in advance. So Ruby's character ends up relatively flexible, to the point he can even end up with shit like a canon girlfriend which no other MCs have so far. Yeah I'm just rambling now.
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>>58220946
Cute
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>>58219982
Is he about to hypnotize her with that coin?
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>>58220827
Tldr Kusaka tried making a relatively plotless video game into more than it was, with varying results.
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>>58219987
Halfway? But May never ends!
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>>58220827
>But looking at the character arc Kusaka seemed to be trying to recreate
I'd say if anything, the reason it didn't work is because Ruby is not the analogue to past protagonists. Sapphire is the logical progression (and arguably conclusion) of characters like Red, Yellow and Gold. Sapphire fits the mold of being a conventional hero, but we learn that her being that way is due to fear of abandonment; That she has to do something to be deemed worthy or she'll be left behind.

It's a far more three dimensional version of Gold's MO being he does good things solely for his own self-worth and good feefees. He also has a far less severe and destructive self-worth problem than Sapphire. Early on he constantly rants about wanting to find a way to surpass Silver or get his wants even down to throwing tantrums, but he's so self absorbed he can't see how he has everything Silver yearns for.

Sapphire's eagerness to help or just do something is often the source for her emotionally low points which conclude in that "always" monologue in ORAS when she finds out Ruby concealed the truth from her yet again. It's why Gold's HGSS arc falls flat because it's framed as a lack of maturity rather than a more laidback selfishness and entitlement that makes him not consider the feelings of others. That trait is also increasingly used to comedic effect so HGSS just comes out of nowhere. Red's angst in FRLG is awful because the root of it is borderline nonsensical and it's bundled with other baffling plot decisions (The archipelago-sized lynch mob)

Sapphire on the other hand always considers the feelings of others because they tie to her self worth. I'd also say Gold and Silver also have a similar level of being cosmically cursed/tied though it's far less severe and entirely platonic.

Ruby fits a closer mold to Blue (f) and Silver, which ironically makes the water trio perfect thematically.
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>>58220933
Unrealistic, her back would be broken if she was in real life
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>>58221896
<3
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>>58222947
Boob
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>>58221910
Weak to assume our tit queen doesn't have the muscles for her jugs

Or the counterbalance in her ass
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>>58224425
Why is May getting abducted in the middle of nowhere?
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>>58224438
Alien impregnation
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>>58224425
This image gives a similar vibe like the twins scene from The Shining.
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Does anyone have a collection of the May AI genned videos? especially the nude ones
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>>58219541
That's Sapphire's best attempt at lying, she's not very good at it kek.

>>58221287
>Sapphire is the logical progression (and arguably conclusion) of characters like Red, Yellow and Gold. Sapphire fits the mold of being a conventional hero
I agree with this not to be a Ledditor but some fans have put those 4 characters in the HP Gryffindor house for example but that doesn't mean Ruby isn't also the logical progression of past MCs. Based on the primary male MCs, Red was the stock shounen hero, Gold was "edgy" Red (arrogant anti-hero that's just harmless/funny) then Ruby was an actually edgy Gold (arrogant anti-hero being controversial), Diamond was if Red/Gold/Ruby were completely defanged and non controversial, Black is a return to form by being Red But Different, it goes on. Basically all their characters are responses to whoever came before them.

>her being that way is due to fear of abandonment; That she has to do something to be deemed worthy or she'll be left behind.
I don't agree here. I don't think Sapphire has abandonment issues, this common assumption comes from reading her ORAS monologue too literally at face value. Her fear comes from others being hurt, specifically others being hurt because she couldn't help them. That's why she became a Tarzan, so she'd be strong enough to help anyone without issue. So she's upset about being kept in the dark about danger, not because of FOMO, but because Ruby could die and she wouldn't even know about it, let alone help him.

Also if Sapphire had abandonment issues, then she wouldn't be the one always breaking up with Ruby (instead she'd be clinging to the relationship long after she'd lost hope in it). The one who has abandonment issues is actually Ruby, who will completely change his personality just so Sapphire won't leave him.
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>>58224913
Ruby's dad leaving him is the most significant points of both RS and his life, it's why there's at least 2 flashbacks just about it. (RS can't decide whether Sapphire was also neglected by Prof Birch or not, but overall it seems like they spent a lot of time together)

>he's so self absorbed he can't see how he has everything Silver yearns for.
Spot on.

>Gold's HGSS arc falls flat because it's framed as a lack of maturity rather than a more laidback selfishness and entitlement that makes him not consider the feelings of others
But isn't that the definition of immaturity? Being selfish, entitled and insensitive (whether in a laid back way or not) is the behavior of a child or shitty teenager. Being all of those things made GSC Gold immature, and made everyone around him not respect him or consider him reliable. Then by HGSS Gold's priorities change inside him (probably due to age) and he suddenly wants respect, he wants people to rely on him, but they often don't and he struggles to understand that it's all his own fault. This is actually where RS/E/ORAS Ruby comes from: Ruby was also selfish, entitled and insensitive. But when RS Ruby reaches the point everybody shuns him for his behavior (which is where HGSS Gold reached to a less serious extent, then got stuck and then the story decided his "real problem" was him ignoring his Togepi), here RS Ruby endures a mental breakdown that forces him to actively try to change (symbolized most by him apologizing to Sapphire and trying to regain her trust). Gold is never made to humble himself as hard as Ruby was, all his closest relationships remain tsundere (both with Crystal and Silver) because he's too proud to be honest, that's why he got mentally stuck while Ruby changed dramatically. This is also why I consider Gold to be the proto Ruby.
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>>58224933
>The archipelago-sized lynch mob
The funniest part of FRLG, I remember laughing incredulously whenever they showed up because everyone took them so seriously. Pokedex holders being oppressed is so funny

>Gold and Silver
Agreed on their cosmic curse, they're also very popular fujobait but at least you can see why. I think the Ruby/Sapphire dynamic is both a mix and evolution of Red/Yellow, Gold/Silver and Gold /Crystal all together. That's why Franticshipping ended up so complex, it had a lineage just like the characters' personalities did.

>Ruby fits a closer mold to Blue (f) and Silver
True, but also Ruby fitting in best with water gang isn't mutually exclusive with him being part of a clear pattern with other previous MCs (Red, Gold etc). Just like how Sapphire's similarity to Red and Yellow (who don't have fire starters) doesn't mean she isn't also a stereotypical fire starter dex holder herself.
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>>58224913
Doggystyle
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>>58221274
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>>58224818
>>>/r/
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>>58223613
Reminder
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>>58224933
Does this imply Ruby watched Sapphire get undressed? Did she flash him?
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>>58224954
Yes.
>>58225017
Yes all the time. That's what leads to all the doggystyle.
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>>58225082
So, is spats-on anal doggystyle RuSa's sex of choice?
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>>58211738
Okay, per >>58212165, I decided to sketch out Ash and May posing via the third version, just to see how it'd look and as a potential reference that I can give to an actual artist to draw. Please don't mind the sketch quality, as I'm not an artist.
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>>58225820
*fourth version
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>>58225011
Screw you. This is the best place to ask as we're likely to have it. /r/ is for when you'd need to make a thread for your request because it it isn't anywhere else on the site.

And... as a matter of fact, I do have what anon is looking for and I don't usually check /r/.

>>58224818
Here you go: https://gofile.io/d/fgQhib
I know there are more that I didn't get, like the beach undressing edit. When these were coming out I was a little late and unfocused and I know that the AI thread was also doing some that didn't get posted in /mg/ so if anyone else has some to upload in the thread or here that would be good and then I can add them to the gofile. If there are any that are NSFW, just leave a link and I'll get those too. These are the censor bar ones.
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>>58225865
>censor bar
Oh and as far as I am aware, these do not have an uncensored version. I think they were genned with the censor bar in the prompt or added and then uploaded. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any of these uncensored.



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