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>>58260792
>padt/ is completely dominated by Horizons chat
So is this place because they come to seethe about this thread being a thing or to bait some retard, just let it die bro since it's not like their thread is better, it's just/a/ crossposting, samefags, the same art always and a hugbox.

>>58260792
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>>58260792
To provide clarification on PM.net, I looked into their Discord after the site went down and can confirm that the shutdown is temporary and, according to Sunain, "it's not a money issue" (because the site is actually pretty cheap to run) but "completely a free time issue." It seems like it was a few months coming, though even PM.net's own regulars were caught off-guard by the shutdown. The plan appears to be to eventually get the site up again, though likely as a permanent archive of what's already there; due to the lack of free time from the staffers, the site might no longer be adding anything new once it returns.

Personally, if manpower is really the issue, I'd just retire the news section (which is mainly filled with mobile game updates and Japan-only merch drops) in favor of continuing to update the DVD, CD, song, and anime episode databases, since those require less daily maintenance and are more useful to people.

>>58260792
Thanks for the confusing image OP, I keep thinking this is the pocket monsters dot net thread from the other day.

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>>58260900
You're welcome anon

>>58260906
Sex with Rich Dawn

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>>58260884
Thanks for the update on the situation anon. This is a relief and far better than many of the alternatives.

I only found out about the website the other day from one of these /ptsd/ threads. I was gutted to see it gone.

There's more information in this thread:

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>>58260916
I've used the site for years because there is no better alternative when trying to build a Pokémon CD and/or DVD collection. Bulbapedo tries to be as thorough with CD releases, but they're just not; and as for DVD releases, Bulbapedo is very spotty and doesn't even attempt to be complete, whereas PM.net essentially covers every obscure release you'll ever find, dating back to VHS, and lets you know what episodes are on each one. And everything in their CD and DVD databases is ordered chronologically.

Then there's, in my opinion, the crown jewel of PM.net, which is the anime episode music catalogues, where every music track in every Japanese episode (and movie) is timestamped and paired with the track name, where you can get the full track on CD if it's been released, and a description. If you ever wanted to know exactly how many times a particular song was used throughout the anime and where, you could discover that information on PM.net.

>>58260884
Sunain has said the site gets a lot of traffic from Japan from nips using it for news on said Japan-only merch, since there's not really any nip websites covering this stuff very well.

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I miss when they used to do specialty DVD sets like this.

https://x.com/theconfused_pro/status/1967763187480285444

I feel moments like this was possible on OS series.

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Cynthia should have been Ash's final battle and I'm tired of pretending otherwise and being gaslighted otherwise.
>inb4 Cynthiafag ur just mad because she's not the strongest
No, Cynthia was plain and simply the Champion Ash had a genuine and real bond with and knew by far the longest. Hell, he even lived with her for a period of time. And solved like two or three world-ending crises with her too.
But no bro trust me the real connection between Ash and Cynthia was... they both have an eggmon and the eggmon Cynthia hatched twenty years ago and the one Ash hatched two weeks ago are totally fated rivals bound by destiny and nothing else matters.

I hated the stuff with Leon, not because he was OP, which is another issue altogether, but because of how hard they were pushing that extremely cringe "Ash is like Leon but grown-up" when they don't behave or act in similar way at all, and because of scenes like when Leon was opening-up to Ash about his insecurities rather than responding meaningfully he just kept acting like a celebrity worshiping teenage girl.
It was painfully artificial, and a complete disservice towards Ash's character because he's never been such a mindless suck-up for anyone no matter their status. And in all honesty, it was a total disservice towards Leon, too.
Really, the entire M8 was just an insult towards everyone who was part of it. Even the winners just ended up coming out looking bad.

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What was the point of this?

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My version of Horizon Ash would be a combination of Roy and Uruto. He behave as childish and impulsively as Uruto but shows wisdom and strength that far exceed Roy. His new outfit is based on pic related but he wear similar shorts as his JN counterpart. The color of his clothes are based on Mega Greninja. The cap and scarf helps concealing his identity as the world champion.

>>58262120
Artificial forced drama to "raise the steaks".
And if you're a powerscaling schizo, yet another asterisk to add to Ash vs Cynthia by letting you argue that Cynthia was not truly giving it her all since she was depressed.

>>58262023
I remember nip Leon fangirls hated the way he was represented in the anime and shat on him constantly.

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>>58262346
I still have this screencap from the day Leon vs Diantha aired.

Everyone came out of that episode feeling bad. Literally all fanbases. It was so fucking bad that people came out of the woodwork to defend Diantha and go about how she didn't deserve that treatment despite people near-universally shitting on Diantha for being the worst Champion for nearly a decade. That's how you know it was BAD.
I seriously have no idea what they were thinking. Loli Cynthia flashback was the only saving grace of that episode and just barely so because you know in a better moment that'd have been half the episode or something nice like that instead of wasting half the episode in yet another fucking shitmon gets lost plotline.

Leon was fine early on. I actually like his battle against Lance, and the Raihan one was fine I guess. Both were pretty even. But I don't know what happened in the M8 that they decided to turn him into Jiren, totally humiliating his opponents.

All right, you're able to overrule Yuyama's autism and end Ash's journey at a more appropriate time. Where do you end it, how do you end it, and what successor show do you make to replace it?

>>58262564
DP with Hilda as the succesor, I've seen people praise Liko because she's "realistic" but I don't think so, give me a girl with ambition instead of someone waiting for fate and her magical bloodline with nepotism

>>58262545
Artificial hype and stakes.
>OMG HOW IS ASH GONNA DEFEAT LEON WHEN HE'S SO STRONG?????
Not realizing that by wanking him so hard and always playing Ash as le hecking underdoggerino will make lots of people make the victory feel unearned and unrealistic.
You can tell something shifted and changed midway into Journeys, likely when they decided Ash would be fucking off, because that's when you start to notice the higher focus on the PWC. I think that's also when they decided to do that with Leon for the sake of "hype".
The most upsetting part is that you can notice they're not fully retarded too. There's very clear and obvious reasons why, for example, they fed Alan and Diantha to Leon. They're smart enough to know that doing that to Cynthia or Steven would have caused a major meltdown. They're smart enough to decide on Alan for "fanservice" and to give people a copewin by having Ash beating Leon who beat Alan meaning Ash symbolically beat Alan now stop being upset about the Kalos League. Not smart enough to realize that doing that misses the point super hard though.
But absolutely nothing was portrayed in a convincing manner so it all fell flat.
They could easily done something proper had they wanted but for some reason simply did not.
Too clever by half is the best way to describe it.

Do people here also post in the /a/ threads, or are these separate groups?

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>>58262433
It's one of the worst rated episodes of the entire series (though still not as bad as the Dande VS Alan fight)

>>58262705
lol @ the random Koharu focus episode in the midst of the M8 getting a higher score than most of the actual M8 battle episodes.

>>58262757
It was decent for what it was, while most of the battle episodes were just garbage in all kinds of ways.

>>58262705
Are there watch guides for the other seasons?

>>58262829
No, this was the first one to stream on Nicolive, so the others don't have ratings like these.

>>58262889
I mean let's be fair, 99% of Pokemon animefags are XYfags. That doesn't really narrow it down.

>>58262889
>Was the show actually shit? No, it had to be muh XYfags!
Besides, the Lillie episode got the highest rating.

>>58262889
>>No reaction.
lol
lmao
There was a minor melty.
But yes, of course the scale will be different because there's way less eyes on random Horizons battle episode vs the fucking world championships.

>>58262889
Hate towards JN was manufactured by the fact that it was SHIT

>>58262889
Hate towards JN was 80% Goh and 20% everything else.

>>58262889
>Horizonfags, Nemonafag AND Journeyfag
Yikes.

>>58262705
>all that red towards the end
How did things get this bad?
Pokemon tournaments are usually the highlight of the show

>>58262948
>How did things get this bad?
It was rushed, badly animated, badly planned, and had divisive matchups and outcomes, all while trying to balance Gohshit that nobody cared about.

>>58262705
What's wrong about Finals II and III? I don't remember anything particularly bad

>>58262991
A lot of cuts to show Goh iirc, that entire part was them fighting against Yuyama's autism and it shows

>post deleted
KWAB

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Y'know, I was having this one idea for an Ashfic that takes place 6 years after Journeys ends and more or less talks about Ash's view of what a Pokémon Master is. Wasn't sure whether to ask here or at the fanfic general, but since this place is focused on the old series, might as well do it here. Anyone in the mood to read my ramblings or nah? Be warned though: there's lotsa /co/ elements and inspirations involved, and some things might not be of the "best taste" (if you know Ashfic clichés, chances are you know what I mean).

>>58262120
Yuri

I wish OLM was part of the leak bros so we'd know all the details of our favorite anime-only characters...

>>58263039
No one cares about your self-insert power fantasy with Ash so keep it to yourself.

>>58262023
Ash should've traveled back in time and met young Cynthia.

>>58263090
If we ever get a loli cynthia anime (lol) I sure hope it is its own thing.

>>58262564
There were only three real places to end it: OS, DP, and XYZ. With OS, you reorganize the Johto League to get rid of Harrison and move Ash vs. Gary to the finals, Ash wins, then Ash vs. E4 and Lance, Ash wins, and heads home. This way, the "Original Series" just becomes known as the "Ash Series." Next series, you either make Brendan or May the new protagonist, or make them a traveling duo. With DP, you move Ash vs. Paul to the semis and have Ash beat Tobias afterward in the finals, or delete Tobias altogether and have Ash beat Paul in the finals. Then you do the Champion League, eventually culminating in Ash vs. Cynthia, with Ash winning. Since Ash's companion count is still reasonable as of DP, you can have Misty, May, and Max join Brock and Dawn in watching Ash achieve his championship victory. In the end, Ash goes home, and you could probably even end with the same final shot in the DP finale we got, with him running over the hill and into Pallet Town. Next series, a fairly faithful adaptation of BW, considering that it's already story-heavy. Finally, with XYZ, you all know the drill. Ash beats Alain, then you have the Flare arc, and then you have him battle and beat the E4, and finally Diantha. This ending, as is, doesn't actually work as well as the hypothetical DP ending IMO, so you'd probably need to sweeten it with an actual celebration episode (like we had after Ash's Indigo League placement), or something like that. In the end, Serena still gets her precious kissu and then fucks off to Hoenn, Clemont and Bonnie return to the gym, and Ash heads home. Like with DP's ending, I think you can actually keep the same final scene and shot from our XYZ, with Ash entering his house and calling for his mom. Next series, a total series reboot with SM, probably starring Chicken, complete with the same art style change, which now feels less controversial because it's a fresh start with a new protagonist.

Those are my two cents, mainly from my gut.

>>58263039
Based Ashbro, everbody cares

>>58263039
Don't listen to the seething Horizonfags, I don't even know why are they here, though in 6 years his personality should be different

>>58263039
I would be willing to read through some, I myself have plenty of ideas for Ash fics (that will never see the light of day), so I think it would be fun to see what you have.

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>>58263110
>>58263142
>>58263247
I was gonna crack a joke about the duality of man, but fuck it, vox populi. Hold on to your butts because this shit's long.
>before the six-year timeskip, we begin with classic Ash
>he meets this one OC which I'll call "Face" for now (some have already seen him in the fanfic and OC generals; I owe explanations, but that's neither here nor there) who basically has a massive inferiority complex for losing leagues, he knows who Ash is
>Ash tries to comfort with his usual "don't give up until the very end" schtick, Face tells him: "You're right, you're already a Master after all"
>Ash goes "Actually I'm not" with once again his usual "it's more than being the strongest"
>Face goes "But you're already superior to everyone, what else could you want to be?"
>Ash wasn't ready for that answer
>so, he tries his best to explain what his view on a Master really is, but goes through a lot of nonsense and those "hah, ooh, wow" babble that gets on other characters' nerves, all to say "I want to be friends with all Pokémon"
>Face is beyond baffled by what Ash just said, and because he's a 10-year-old with too many emotional issues, he ends up punching Ash right in the jaw for it
>Face calls him out for basically stomping on every strong trainer out there for what's basically nothing, since well, being friends with all Pokémon has very little to do with beating the strongest trainers out there; he also finds it unfair that an idiot like Ash gets to be a champion while people more dedicated to that have been left to lose
>and to pour salt on the wound, Face tells Ash that he and his Pokémon will be his sworn enemies to make sure he never succeeds at his goal
>Ash snaps and hits Face so hard, he's left all traumatised
>but then, that's the very moment where Ash realises Face is right
>he can't really answer the argument at all, add that he also hated landing that fist on him
>so, Ash and Pikachu leave for the moment
(1/?)

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>>58263536
>that's when an OC villain shows up, I'm gonna call her Imp because conceptually, she's based on Mr. Mxyzptlk, that Superman villain who fucks with him for shits and giggles
>and from then, Ash spends the following six years trying to avoid thinking about Face and what he told him, Imp is also around to fuck him up
>but wait, there's more!
>we cut to the actual six-year timeskip
>Ash isn't fine
>the fist to the jaw destroyed his big eater tendencies, his enthusiasm is almost dead, and no matter how much he tried to avoid thinking about Face, he's starting to see that becoming friends with all Pokémon really is looking like an impossible task
>but, for this one time, he has to stop thinking about it, because Serena invited him to a performance in the hopes of cheering him up
>unfortunately, the performance ends up going wrong, and Serena suffers a massive injury
>backstage, Serena assures Ash that she's okay and that she'll have another shot at helping him in the future
>Ash is well, not okay about that, he's starting to feel like what happened six years before is finally taking a toll on him
>but before he can tell Serena how she feels, another OC villain shows up, I'll call her "Banshee"
>Banshee is a petty criminal who enjoys fucking pretty people over and likes treating them like objects; she's going after Serena
>Ash isn't having any of that and tries fighting Banshee
>it doesn't end well
>Ash gets his ass kicked, Serena gets his ass kicked, but Banshee isn't satisfied, she'd rather entertain her victims and go on tangents about how unfair life is; she also mocks Ash for being a useless trainer
>Serena then tells Banshee that she’s wrong because Ash is a world champion, but that doesn’t really help at all because Ash is the one at mercy here
>Banshee then mocks Ash for not fighting like an actual champion, and claims that all his efforts were in vain
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>>58263544
>Ash, not in his best state of mind, tells Banshee that all he wanted was to be friends with all Pokémon
>Banshee goes out and says, "Well, I hate you, and so do my Pokémon, so you already failed at it"
>and... yeah, Ash pretty much lost the argument
>still, he wants to protect his friends because what Banshee is doing can't be forgiven
>Ash ends up winning the physical war, but not the psychological one
>Banshee escapes anyway, Serena is worried, Ash is fucked up
>while Serena is in the hospital, she tries to reassure Ash that he shouldn't take what Banshee told him to heart
>Ash can't agree, he's not up to the standards of a champion, but more importantly, he's not strong enough for his friends
>so he goes back to Pallet Town, and starts training in unnatural ways, feeling that all of his strategies and ideas aren't working
>everyone is worried
>Serena forces herself to go help him, Brock and Misty find out, and they also try to help him
>problem is that Brock and Misty's "advice" makes no sense because they're pretty much reprimanding him for not predicting unexpected situations, and are making him look like a complete moron who can't do anything right
>Ash ends up crashing out at everyone present, including Delia and Oak, because he realises right there that nothing he ever does is good enough for everyone, everything is wrong, and he has to "adjust" only for that to be wrong too
>sounds like a betrayed fic, and wouldn't blame anyone for thinking it
>sure, Ash's friends wouldn't betray him in cartoonish fashion, but they're very capable of telling him unbelievably stupid things
>having seen that no one is on his side, Ash decides to leave for parts unknown, with only Pikachu and some of his other Pokémon by his side now because everyone else thinks he lost the plot
(3/?)

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>>58263558
>and so, that's basically the big catalyst of my story idea: Ash trying to come to terms with his adventures, recollect his thoughts and ask himself if everything he's done was worth anything at all
>going through the rest of the story would take too long, so here are the important parts:
>Ash becomes something of a mixture between his OS and XY selves, the best way I can describe his new personality would be by comparing him to Joe Fixit -the Gray Hulk-: he's rather aggressive, much more willing to disrespect people if they're rude to him, not taking anyone's nonsense lightly; but, he's still noble at heart, even if only for a select few people
>he goes to Galar at one point to face Leon on a "fair match" (aka, no gimmicks allowed); Leon asks why, and he basically says that he's not up to the champion title and needs to be better than that
>Leon tells him that he allowed Ash to fight with all he had because he wanted to have fun, which was the most important part; he asks: "Was I wrong for it?"
>Ash, in a depressed manner, tells him: "Nobody cares about fun or happiness, they care about being a proper champion", and leaves before Leon can properly respond
>Ash goes to Alola to help himself, meets Lei and starts acting like a mentor, trying his best to be a good big brother for him; everyone can tell that he isn't right and really needs help
>Imp keeps messing with Ash, her games become crueller, and she constantly tries to get Ash's other friends involved to torture him some more
>the worst she gets is when she makes Ash see some memories from Pikachu's POV, including the infamous episode where he gets jealous of Riolu, which basically makes him think that not even his best partner likes him
>she almost succeeds at severing Ash's bond with Pikachu, but the latter's sheer willpower allows the two to reconnect and for them to actually start working their way back up from rock bottom
(4/?)

>>58263536
>>58263544
I just got through these two posts, and this basically just sounds like misery porn.

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>>58263569
>I've been thinking about having this "faller side plot" where a character Ash knows turns into a faller, loses all of their memories with Ash, and the latter just can't seem to help, almost making it look like his actions are worthless; dunno who should be the victim though
>maybe May for being the one who hasn't seen Ash for the longest time, maybe Dawn because she's the one who saw him win the championship live, maybe Lillie because lol Alola (Anabel too, but she'd be too predictable and only knew Ash for a few days)
>Ash meets Cynthia at one point and is reminded of that one phrase she told him "when two trainers meet, their lives change"
>that's the ultimate event that helps Ash crawl out of his hole, remembering the fact that he changed so many lives for the better
>he faces Imp for real and pays her back for everything she did
>he also gets back at Banshee and basically goes "cry about it"
>eventually, he makes amends with Brock and Misty, apologising for his crashout, and they also apologise for not considering Ash's feelings too
>but ultimately, he doesn't know what to do about Face's argument, and starts coming to term with the fact that he may have been right all along
>when they finally meet again, both make peace with each other, and Face tells him, "don't give up until the very end"
>so perhaps he should resume his goals, maybe he'll be able to forgive evil Pokémon and become their friend
>he wants to still create fond memories with people and Pokémon alike, he wants to be happy because that’s what matters the most
>and if not, who's to say he won't find something else too if/when he needs a job? That's the cool part of adventure, there's always something of worth to take from it
>the end
And that is all the autism. I can't summarise for the life of me, so if you made it this far, I dunno, read Immortal Hulk or something, it's good capeshit.
(5/5)

>>58263558
>>58263583
Wait, so does Serena ever recover from her injury?

>>58263616
Yeah, she does. I've also had this idea where Serena talks with Brock and Misty during recovery and the two admit to her that they couldn't see their own flaws, hence why both their side and Ash's end up apologising to each other. The consequences of having too many ideas, I suppose.

>>58263536
>>58263544
>>58263558
>>58263569
>>58263583
Ash self-inserters are genuinely mentally ill.

>>58263624
I see. I just keep thinking of the "fight" episode from XYZ, so I guess I can't picture Ash "crashing out" at her AGAIN, since he already did the one time and felt instant regret when he did it and saw her crestfallen face. And if he "crashes out" at her, among the others, while she's not only suffering from a "massive injury" that he witnessed happen, but was also the first person to try to cheer him up and was nothing but a reassuring voice, AND THEN made the treck to Pallet Town presumably while still severely injured, Ash just comes away sounding like a colossal piece of shit, to an OOC degree, specifically to her. And that's before even factoring in any of the other friends. Just my immediate impression.

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>>58263663
Ash wouldn't be crashing out at Serena mind you. Sorry if that part was unclear. His issue in this story would be solely with Misty and Brock, and Serena is just there to see him lose his shit. While Pikachu is Ash's most loyal partner, Serena is always an effective voice of reason, and would be the one to help him feel better.

>>58263828
>tfw no voice of reason gf whose only desire while crippled in the hospital is trying to cheer you up

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How do you fix her?

>>58263828
I just assumed based on the words "everyone present" in "Ash ends up crashing out at everyone present, including Delia and Oak" that you meant, well, "EVERYONE present." >>58263558
Makes it slightly less bizarre, then. Still, I'm not sure what you have feels like his natural character reaction to some jerkass, especially since he's already dealt with Paul and Trip's bullshit. Setting aside the facts that his own Pokémon would probably stage an intervention before long as he's spiraling out and that Brock has seen Ash crash out enough times to be able to know how to handle it (such as in DP when he literally just told Dawn not to intervene and let Ash sort it out himself).

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>>58263869
>I'm not sure what you have feels like his natural character reaction to some jerkass, especially since he's already dealt with Paul and Trip's bullshit.
With Paul, ultimately, neither him nor Ash wanted to destroy each other's dreams, or at least, that's how I always viewed it (I don't see training methods as the dream itself). When you think about it, Ash has never been confronted about his goals, people just ask him what a Master is, he acts ambiguous about it and that's all she wrote. So when Ash gets attacked for his goals in life, it should hit hard, emotionally speaking.

You are right about Brock though. I should probably revisit those Sinnoh episodes for when I start to properly write the story (the Hoenn parts were Ash was mad at Brawly likely have some material for that too), since I've only revisited OS episodes so far.

>>58263869
>>58263906
Isn't his dream lowkey impossible in the first place, especially with how it got established in the last episode after the previous episode made it clear that some Pokemon like the Latios will never be friends with him?

Genuinely getting more angry post-airing about how the lack of stakes and confrontations really takes away any sense of investment.

>>58263916
Exactly. The whole dream part is pretty much impossible. It was discussed a few threads ago, but if you were to write an Ash-focused story, you'd have to either reconcile the dream with its fatal flaw, or to get rid of it.

>>58263107
all of these ideas are 100000x better than what we got

>>58263939
>or to get rid of it.
I would do this but after a few years of traveling, kinda how like Shirou goes from trying to save everyone to just the most important people in his life while accepting that there's nothing wrong with that. Like iirc his entire speech in XYZ after being crucified is how the world is big and beautiful and that everyday a new trainer starts their journey and a new story.

>>58263846
delete go and give her his screentime

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>>58263967

>>58263107
>OS, DP, and XYZ
Only OS , DP and BW since it had PWT. XYZ was so disconnected from past series that it wasn't a good place to end anything.

>>58264061
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/search/text/Supposed%20nemona%20strongest/start/2025-01-01/
I would recommend seeking out employment than seething over a scenario that you make up in your head and that only you have a problem with, Famon

>>58264061
Paldea's been shown to be a Region full of shitters through every and all media.
Nemona's always been a big fish on a small pond.
Sorry, bro. Your waifu was never really all that strong. Take your butthurt to anipoketwitter or something. This ain't the thread for it.

>>58263967
Based. So what do Ash and Koharu do in this Gohless version of JN, then?

>>58264957
Ash travels with Serena and Koharu as we get a 3 year long Tripokalon subquest alongside the Galar gyms (fuck the world tournament shit, that was a mistake too)

>>58265029
I rike it.

>>58265029
>Hey, Satoshi! How come you get two performer girlfriends?!

>>58263536
Not too bad for a start desu, would work well for an interesting story of Ash having to finally set an actual definition to his goal of being a Pokemon Master, one that is actually possible and not so vague. Although not too sold on Ash lashing out like that, especially with how much he mellowed out throughout his journey and how many jerks he has contended with already, though seeing your reasoning does make it a bit more of an easier sell.
For some reason it also reminded me of that one Fat Albert movie
>>58263544
>>58263558
>>58263569
Gotta agree a little with this anon though >>58263575 seems like this would just be misery porn for a good chunk of the story. And I don't really buy Serena of all people being Ash's sole emotional support (and the main catalyst for his spiral down), especially with Brock being there and having spent a lot more time with Ash and having learned how to deal with Ash's temper during that time.

>>58265202
I can understand Serena being his main human emotional support, even if not the sole. Even setting the shipping stuff aside which may or may not even be a thing in anon's fic, Ash was particularly gentle with her, and her with him, and they only ever had the one big blowup as discussed before. So it makes sense that they find a particular comfort in each other because neither really acts judgmentally towards the other. I do agree, though, that you can't have this and also have her act as a catalyst for him spiraling into the abyss, because it becomes contradictory or at least super clunky in practice. If his dear Serena was injured, he wouldn't fall into despair, but instead be motivated to be even more protective. Someone like Brock makes more sense because he's known him longer and traveled with him longer than anyone else, but is also his bro who, unlike Serena, isn't as out of place lecturing him as a younger sibling, with both the knowledge and possible ramifications of doing that.

>>58262564
Orange Islands. Have Ash fuck off like Red did and let Oak take the GS Ball to Johto. Johto would end up as a mix of The Legend of Thunder special and The Golden Boys manga.
Kanto is prominent enough that Ash has many chances to return without overstaying his welcome between GSC Kanto, FRLG, HGSS Kanto, PWT, hopping along with Gary to Kalos, hopping along with Gary to Alola, and LGPE.

>>58265202
>>58265242
I wouldn't say I intended for Serena to be his sole emotional support, just the main one, or at least, one of them. Ash would still have some of his Pokémon to help him (even with the drama I mentioned in >>58263569), the Alola friends, and depending on whether I roll with the amnesiac friend subplot, Dawn would also be there. Can't blame you for interpreting the idea like that though, since I barely talked about his other friends, that and I have to rethink what I'll do with Brock after reading opinions here.

As for the misery porn thing, it's not intentional, or at least, not fully. Maybe it's my /co/ influence acting, but I've witnessed that a lot of characters are challenged in very personal and dare I say, harsh ways; and I think Ash needs some of that in order to properly reflect on what a Master is. Maybe not to the point of breaking, but I do believe that addressing the flaws in Ash's dreams is necessary.

And now that I'm here, have some more plot points I forgot to bring up yesterday:
>Ash's emotional state is so obvious that even Paul thinks he needs help
>Imp is a Pokémon, it's part of the charm, that Ash's main villain here is a Pokémon, because she'd go against everything he represents
>I've had this idea, but I'm not sure it'd be too cynical: for Imp to be basically responsible for every time Ash lost a league (she gets her kicks out of making him feel miserable), and she only gave up before because his happy nature became too hard to break until Face hit him in the jaw
>to couple that, she pretty much created Tobias as an "ultimate weapon" to break Ash, but since Tobias showed respect to Ash, Imp decided to lock him up in her world as a punishment for his failure
>I'm also entertaining the idea of exploring Ash's views on romance, but in the sense that he isn't sure if he'll ever understand them properly (not wishing to favour or shit on any ship, just a psyche thing)

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>>58266073
Bruh

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Nearing the end of XY, and going to start XY&Z soon after. Some things I've noticed:
>Serena and Bonnie tend to have the best focus episodes
>Serena, post-haircut, gradually starts adopting many of Ash's traits, like getting very obsessed with training, becoming more of a risk-taker and more aggressive in battle, and overall tries to mirror him
>there's much less spaghetti spilling than the memes suggest, and usually Serena's crush on Ash is reflected more subtly, in things like adopting his traits mentioned above
>there's a lot less in terms of original Miyazaki music for XY besides game theme remixes and reused movie music than in past series
>Pancham and Chespin's little rivalry kinda dies around the time M18 came out, and they barely interact anymore; I'm trying to remember exactly where they stopped
>Bunnelby gets a lot of screentime at the end, starting with the flashback episode just before the Eevee episode, and its interactions with Chespin seem to replace the Chespin/Pancham ones
>Serena's Eevee seems like a rare case of a non-retarded Eevee, though maybe Koharu's very retarded Eevee is skewing my memory
>there's a surprising amount of foreshadowing in the use of quotes and scenes, as well as well-placed flashbacks (usually from Serena), that ties this series together
I know Bonnie takes a bigger role in XY&Z, so looking forward to that.

>>58266228
Delete this, anon.
You'll make SMfags mad because you're disproving their "Serena has no personality outside sucking Ash cock" narrative.

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>>58266228
Not just before.

>>58266228
XY and Serena are fan favorites for a reason.

>>58266073
>Maybe it's my /co/ influence acting, but I've witnessed that a lot of characters are challenged in very personal and dare I say, harsh ways; and I think Ash needs some of that in order to properly reflect on what a Master is. Maybe not to the point of breaking, but I do believe that addressing the flaws in Ash's dreams is necessary.
He definitely does, would have hoped they did something about that during MPM, but as was to be expected, they didn't, will say though, if you have seen what has happened with characters like Spider-Man, then you should know that you gotta be careful with how you handle this stuff, otherwise it just sinks into misery porn hell.
That aside, I have to wonder what Pokemon you would even use for the role of "Imp", especially if you really want to give it so much power and influence over Ash's life. Should also look into balancing its power and influence like with Mr. Mxyzptlk and his " Gets banished for a month by making him say his name backwards" catch in that case.

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>>58266144
It it makes you feel better, Amourbro, I have a scene planned for Serena where she hugs Ash after he returns to Kanto and tells him that no matter what, she'll always treasure their moments together. Ash accepts all in good faith, and does end up asking himself if he should try a romance for once.

>>58266704
>if you have seen what has happened with characters like Spider-Man, then you should know that you gotta be careful with how you handle this stuff,
Oh yeah, I'm more than familiar with that. That's part of why I'm mixing his OS and XY personalities, so he can still do fun and cool things while facing his own demons (also because wisecraking Ash is too cool a concept to dodge, and it wouldn't feel out of character). Not exactly an easy task to accomplish, but I'm all for trying the challenge.

As for what Pokémon is Imp, I already have the idea in pic-rel. Sounds like a weird choice, but I entertained some mythical, legendary, and even regular Pokémon that could resemble the kind of character Mxyzptlk is, and this was the one I liked the most. Challenges and solutions aren't fully sorted out, but I'll keep what you're telling me in mind.

>>58267037
Oh, I wasn't reacting as an "Amourbro", I just thought the last couple points about all of Ash's League losses being the work of shadowy figures behind the scenes and Tobias being some cyborg felt like some schizo shit lmao

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>>58265029
Presumably with all our returning favorites of course.

>>58267066
Oh, lol. And here I was just painting the idea as a cynical way to address the league situation (and why Tobias just disappeared). But then again, one could argue that magical imps and stuff fucking over reality does count as schizo shit.

>>58263846
Dedicate episodes specifically to her and her classmates, in order to develop her independent of ash and gou, and then after doing this you join her with the boys as a contrast, while keeping her indifference and standoffish personality. Also delete eevee.

>>58261563
>Ash and Dawn got their own DVD set
Cute!

>>58261563
Pretty sure they flopped pretty hard, which is why we didn't get more.

>>58267112
I miss Cal

>>58268149
Doubt it. DP brought with it a lot more DVD releases than before or after, including individuals for all the many specials. They certainly didn't mind releasing tons of stuff that probably didn't sell big.

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Ash should have caught that Hatenna and Beartric from MPM specially since he finally would have gotten a fairy & psychic type pokemon by catching one Hatenna because I refuse to acknowledge Mr Mime as Ash's pokemon instead of Delia's.

Three Question that writers needs to ask themselves -
1. What was Misty's goal in the first half of the original series?
2. Brock wants to be a Pokemon Breeder but what does a Breeder do and how do a person become an accomplished Breeder?
3. Why are Team Rocket Trio still popular despite barely developed as a characters and didn't even receive new clothes?

Which fansubs would you recommend for the movies and specials?

OS Ash ends up with Giselle.
AG Ash ends up with Anabel.
DP Ash ends up with Dawn.
BW Ash ends up with Iris.
XY Ash ends up with Serena.
SM Ash ends up with Lillie.
Journeys Ash ends up with Chloe.

Simple as.

>>58264054
>and BW since it had PWT
You mean the hick kid who couldn't even beat a level 5 snivy is supposed to win the PWT?

OS Ash ends up with Pikachu.
AG Ash ends up with Pikachu.
DP Ash ends up with Pikachu.
BW Ash ends up with Pikachu.
XY Ash ends up with Pikachu.
SM Ash ends up with Pikachu.
Journeys Ash ends up with Pikachu.

Anything else is fanfic.

>>58269443
PM are the only really good ones.

>>58269340
>1. What was Misty's goal in the first half of the original series?
To become a strong Pokemon trainer, this is clearly spelled out in episode 7
>2. Brock wants to be a Pokemon Breeder but what does a Breeder do and how do a person become an accomplished Breeder?
It's literally the term "dog breeder" but with "dog" changed to "Pokemon".
>3. Why are Team Rocket Trio still popular despite barely developed as a characters and didn't even receive new clothes?
They're funny and charming, and also better developed than most characters.

What the hell are these questions?

>>58269816
>To become a strong Pokemon trainer
Then why didn't she challenge gyms?

>It's literally the term "dog breeder" but with "dog" changed to "Pokemon".
I don't remember Brock ever breeding Pokémon.
>also better developed than most characters.
They are still the same goofball chasing after a kid to steal his Pikachu which didn't change even till the last series.

>What the hell are these questions?
The secret to original series and the reason for its success. It shows that plot and development doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is the characters being fun, compelling, relatable and interesting.

>>58269624
>SM Ash ends up with
Mallow, she was probably the closest.

>>58269871
>Then why didn't she challenge gyms?
Challenging gyms doesn't make you a strong trainer
>I don't remember Brock ever breeding Pokémon
Dog breeders do more than just toss a male and female dog into a room and force them to have sex, you retard. And what fans call "breeding Pokemon" is done by day care workers, not breeders.

>>58269255
Until this episode, I never realized Cilan did not appear in Journeys. I just never missed him

>>58269255
>I refuse to acknowledge Mr Mime as Ash's pokemon instead of Delia's
So basically you admit Ash did not win the PWC without cheating

>>58269923
>Dog breeders do more than just toss a male and female dog into a room and force them to have sex
Thats basically what they do yeah. I mean they take care of them until they sell them but making new dogs of specific breeds is the main point.

>>58269624
Based except for Chloe
>>58269759
Stale unfunny forced meme

>>58270355
>Stale unfunny forced meme
Whether you laugh at it or not doesn't change that it's canon.

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>>58270360
Stay mad.

>>58270508
Would you remind the thread who Ash took with him to Alola?
Hint: it's the same one he took to Kalos, Unova, Sinnoh, Hoenn, and Johto.

I often wonder if these threads would be better if the Ash x Pikachu and the "self-inserters" schizos left to touch grass, because they've been at this for years and haven't offered anything of worth to ashnime discussions. Even the anon who seethed about PokéSpe called it quits with his nonsense, and that guy was insane.

>>58262120
It's so our good guy Satoshi inspires someone yet again to find the joy in Pokemon battles. Cynthia (may her seiyuu RIP) has become so jaded and confident in her strength over the years that she has forgotten the essence of being a trainer -- and that's being a child at heart and enjoying the moment with your Pokemon. Just our Champion boi doing Champion things!

>>58270598
Ah yes, calling them schizos for making a parody of the usual faggotry these threads are dominated by. I am sure triggered by the worthwhile contribution of repeated btich fights over SM and XY, ESLs dogpiling one another, Shippingfags leaving their waifu general to spam their shit here and in the Catalog for attention, which every second thread you faggots are eating it up, the singular Gohfag popping whenever someone makes fun of his design or him in general by bringing up the girl argument again from years ago, the anal obsession with either Adamant, Scott or whatever other person you felt reminded by when you saw a post followed with blogposts of tangents, that one ESLschizoid who constantly wants Pokemon to copy whatever fotm he consumed while losing his shit whenever someone says no to his fantasies and shitty MSpaint drawings. But hey, those rare posts about Pikachu are the ones taking it too far, not the cancer that was encouraged over the years on board to the point of even name-dropping a few anime characters summons posters like drones.

>>58268912
Lmao this shit made my day

>>58270561
The Pokémon universe's equivalent of his pocket knife/gun.

>>58270625
tl;dr

>>58270598
They only show up once in a while. Are you serious? This is what gets to you? Not the constant serieswars that are just regurgitating the same points from decades ago, making them more redundant than anything of worthy offerings but the rare times the Pikachu part gets brought in, especially as a commentary to highlight how retarded the shippingshit sounds as a whole? The discussion has long since dried out, partially because this behavior from you retards drove out newcomers and alienated you from any other group of posters.

You reap what you sew. Two decades of seasons, movies and rectons has led to this and you got to live with the consequences. But no, everyone else has to be at fault.

>>58270635
You get what you give.

>>58262120
>>58262157
>>58270621
I think I finally understand why Journeys and MPM feel so dull to many. There really aren't any stakes or weight to anything that happens.

If the whole deal was that Cynthia was losing her joy for battles, shouldn't that have been, you know, blatant and impactful? She just looks chill throughout the entirety of the tournament, and it doesn't feel like Ash reignited any passion for her.

If that was the plan, there should've been some kind of effort to it. Like, I don't know, show Cynthia struggling to find happiness during the other episodes she appeared in, then have her confess to Diantha that she isn't enjoying battles anymore, and that way you can logically lead to the outcome of her match with Ash.

>>58262120
Foreshadowing Ash's retirement.

>>58270621
Too bad nothing about the battle or writing about it reflected any of that. Plus, that the idea of Cynthia being so no fun allowed and so jaded so as to deciding to retire is utterly anti-antithetical to her character as a whole.
Cynthia had been salivating for a chance to fight Ash ever since she met him. That she would go into such a match with that mentality, and even worse, thinking of it as just a stepping stone towards the "real goal" that was fighting Leon, this bit applies to Ash to for that matter, was just disgusting to see.

Ironically enough, that'd have worked out with Leon if they'd leaned on about how having to be Galar's superstar took the fun out of everything, and some little tweaks like making this the first PWC and that Leon joined in for maximum Galarian shilling pushed by Rose but with every match he fought becoming harder fought with the top 8 being close with the top 4 being basically a coin flip that he won by actual sheer luck like parahax or something instead of the abomination of a line where he tells Diantha "he was just lucky today" and finally losing to Ash being the last push to re-ignite the waku waku.

>>58270665
>If that was the plan
That's the secret, there was no plan.
You really think that that plotline was not shoehorned and tacked on at the last minute?

>>58270692
>You really think that that plotline was not shoehorned and tacked on at the last minute?
Considering OLM's constant pauses since Journeys and Horizons' messy pacing -plus the leaks that make it look much worse-, not really.

>>58269923
>Challenging gyms doesn't make you a strong trainer
Following a boy over a bike doesn't make anybody stronger.
>>58269923
>what fans call "breeding Pokemon" is done by day care workers, not breeders.
And what does Brock do? I am pretty sure workers in day care center were called Breeders in the game

>>58263846
Delete

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>>58271772
Rude

>>58271042
There's a trainer class called Pokemon breeder in the games, but they're not the actual people running the day cares. They weren't introduced until gen 3 either, so they have dick all to do with Brock and his anime-invented career choice.

>>58269624
>>58269879
>not Lana
They literally did the gag with her

>>58271991
Most SMfags just watched the league and nothing else.

>>58271991
And Mallow peeked on Ash when he was on his underwear. Lillie is the most boring option.

>>58271991
No one gives a shit about Lana.
Her biggest contribution to making is her mom's existence through her.

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>>58272360
>No one gives a shit about Lana.
She was the best character in the entire SM series and contribute more than Lillie & Mallow.

>Her biggest contribution to making is her mom's existence through her.
And SM series decided to make her flat and give her the least screentime. If a show has a breakout character, they supposed to use it to shill the show instead of ignoring them. At the end, current anipoke has poor taste in characters because most people would have more excited about Lana's mom episode than Goh, Koharu, Liko and Roy's adventure.

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>>58272360
>No one gives a shit about L-ACKK

>>58272360
>No one gives a shit about Lana.
She's literally the only gen 7 girl that gets her own threads. Lillie is only popular as a ship with Mizuki and nobody really cares about Mao.

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>>58260971
>I've used the site for years because there is no better alternative when trying to build a Pokémon CD and/or DVD collection.
How has that been for you? I don't imagine building such a collection is easy, especially given scarcity of older media and Japan exclusivity.

I once bought CDs of the anime soundtrack and I had to send away to Japan for them using one of those websites that act as a proxy where they get the thing for you and they then ship it overseas themselves. These are the ones:
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pocket_Monsters_Original_Soundtrack_Best

The music is something not often talked about in overall discussion of the anime but it's one of the best elements. The music, both the original Japanese and dub original material, has always been great. The early stuff is iconic.

>the anime episode music catalogues, where every music track in every Japanese episode (and movie) is timestamped and paired with the track name, where you can get the full track on CD if it's been released, and a description.
This is invaluable. I wish I knew it existed before now. I've tried to find X or Y track before and it's far from easy, it would have been nice to know that there was a project that had already documented it.

When they come back I'll probably add PM.net to the OP, it seems like a very important resource especially for the gen 1-8 era of animation that this general focuses on.

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>>58272360
>>58272482
If Lana grow up to be a bustier version of her mom than nether Serena or Misty will able to compete with her.

>>58262023
>Cynthia should have been Ash's final battle

200% agree. Leon was a faggot.

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>>58262564
>All right, you're able to overrule Yuyama's autism and end Ash's journey at a more appropriate time. Where do you end it, how do you end it, and what successor show do you make to replace it?

Ideally the end of Johto. Transition into Hoenn with a new protagonist. But I wouldn't totally get rid of Ash necessarily. If you let the character just age then you could have him become a Brock like mentor figure to younger characters who are the main protagonists. Sort of like what they tried with Ash and Dawn in Sinnoh.

I know "be more like PokeSpe" is a meme but people who say that do often have a point.

If not the end of Johto then it has to be the end of XY.

>>58262581
This is a good idea. They really fucked the whole BW anime up. This would have been a vast improvement.

>>58263107
As other anons have said these are great ideas.

>Next series, you either make Brendan or May the new protagonist, or make them a traveling duo.
This especially I think would have been good. The Pokémon Special manga showed these 2 to be a good duo to pair together and it worked well for a series. I wouldn't even mind if they copied PokéSpe's homework a bit on that one.

>Serena still gets her precious kissu and then fucks off to Hoenn
I'd probably like a bit more actual closure than we ended up getting, which was none.

>>58262692
Nah I don't post on /a/. I only go on there to read Log Horizon threads that appear once every 200 years when the stars perfectly align.

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>>58263082
I'd love that. I care way more about the behind the scenes details of the anime than the games. Here's hoping that some brave epic hacker gets in there and makes it all public.

>>58266228
XY and XY&Z were great. I miss that period of the anime and especially some of the threads on here. There were tons of retards but it was fun.

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>>58269340

1 question you need to ask yourself:

Were you even paying the smallest amount of attention? It's not their fault that you're a retard.

>>58269443
PocketMonsters fansub group are the best. SomeStuffs did subs of things after XY but I'm not really interested in SM so I haven't checked them out and don't know how good they are. SOS Subs are choc full of problems, many of which have been discussed already in this general. tl;dr they're not great so don't bother unless you're desparate and it's the only option.

I know it's never going to happen but it would be awesome if PocketMonsters fansubbed everything from episode 1 of Kanto onwards. Their quality simply cannot be beaten.

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If Serena was in a Los Angeles street gang, which one would she be in?

>>58270598
They probably would but they're also so enduring that they're almost part of the local ecosystem of anime threads on /vp/. Would it even be old /padt/, /ptsd/ or any random anime thread without a plethora of freaks and weirdos writing walls of text about nonsense? They are annoying but at the same time it's like having our own personal jesters here to humiliate themselves for our amusement.

I just ignore them personally and I think you should too. It's 10 times funnier when they waste their time humiliating themselves and nobody even answers.

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>>58272842
>How has that been for you? I don't imagine building such a collection is easy, especially given scarcity of older media and Japan exclusivity.
I've got 92 Japanese Pokémon CDs in total, not counting the old 4Kids ones. I'm happy with my collection, and have stuff ranging from the movie and anime OSTs (the one you have pictured was a very early addition to mine, along with volume 2), to OP/ED singles, and a few game OSTs. Did a lot of collecting during COVID, so the proxy shipping costs were actually worse than normal... The DVD collection is arguably wilder lol, including those big Japanese movie box sets.

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>>58270625
>I am sure triggered by the worthwhile contribution of repeated btich fights over SM and XY
Whether SM and what came after it is shit or good is the main divide over the past decade and is obviously going to be talked about a lot.

>ESLs dogpiling one another
Tbh this is actually hilarious. Just don't be stupid and get involved, let them fight each other. If you step in you become part of the joke.

>Shippingfags leaving their waifu general to spam their shit here and in the Catalog for attention
I've not been on /vp/ much over the past few years. I rarely check it, and have only been coming back recently for these /ptsd/ threads. Where the ever loving fuck did all these waifu and basically pornography threads come from? It wasn't like that a few years ago. Did the moderation just become lax and allow this shit to creep in?

I personally like shipping and romance but I think arguing about this shit is pathetic, cringe and retarded. This waifu wars shit is embarrassing, it hurt to even read it. If it's something well thought out like character analysis yeah I don't have an issue with that but this low IQ nigger behaviour has to stop.

>But hey, those rare posts about Pikachu are the ones taking it too far, not the cancer that was encouraged over the years on board to the point of even name-dropping a few anime characters summons posters like drones.
I've read all of the /ptsd/ threads up to and including this one and my mind is drawing a blank. I don't really recall many posts about Pikachu. Were they your posts? What did they say?

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>>58270641
>but the rare times the Pikachu part gets brought in, especially as a commentary to highlight how retarded the shippingshit sounds as a whole?
Seriously what the fuck is the Pikachu thing people keep talking about? Am I getting dementia or something?

>>58272419
>She was the best character in the entire SM series
That's not a high bar LMAO

>>58272503
>She's literally the only gen 7 girl that gets her own threads.
I think what the other anon meant to say was that no normal people give a shit about Lana. People who make 24/7 around the clock thinly veiled porn threads on /vp/ barely count as people, let alone normal people.

>>58272956
>SOS Subs are choc full of problems, many of which have been discussed already in this general. tl;dr they're not great so don't bother unless you're desparate and it's the only option.
QRD? I've been planning to use them to watch up till the end of AG. I barely trust subs, so I'd always check the Jap CCs if a line of dialogue sticks out to me. All I know about SOS is their very retarded spelling of Pokémon names.

>>58273005
Wow to be honest I didn't know they even made that many music releases. I probably shouldn't be surprised though given that a) it's Pokémon and b) the series has been running for decades.

The music above any other element, across games and anime, is the most consistently great thing about Pokémon. Even when everything else flops the music is usually brilliant. I can't speak for anything after generation 7 since those are the most recent games I've played but before then at least what I'm saying holds true.

>>58273020
>>58273030
It's just some shipost that spawned after Jouneys ended with Ash remaining single and a scene of Ash and Pikachu showed up that made anons start to joke that Pikachu was the winner of the "Ashbowl" and the two were fucking,
It was actually pretty funny at first, but schizos ran in into the ground trolling shipperfags and waifutards, though, personally I just find it mildly annoying.

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>>58273051
Where to begin... I'll give what I can remember off the top of my head but I really do recommend reading previous threads if you want details.

So SOS are mainly a Sailor Moon group but they have 1 person, Akiko, who has spent around the past 6 years singlehandedly translating and subtitling Pokémon from the original series forwards.

There are a few issues with this 1 translator. Prime among them is that she (if it even is a real woman, which we'll get to later) doesn't have very good Japanese. There are plenty of plain factual errors and instances where she displays that she doesn't have a very strong grasp one the language, such as in pic related as one anon explained - that the original Japanese is saying the literal exact opposite of what she(?) thinks it's saying.

Another thing is the ideology infesting the SOS fansub group. To put it mildly it's saturated with gays, trannies and the whole ideology of LGBT that goes with it. Their discord server where this emanates from is an absolute nightmare. It also infects the work they did on Pokémon. I was the anon who has access to said discord server who posted a ton of screenshots in one of the previous threads showing just how bad it was in there. They're basically a load of mentally ill trannies. Now, that doesn't mean they can't be good at Japanese, but their translator isn't that good at Japanese and fills in the blanks with mental illness ideology. The discord server is full of posts from this woman(?) going on about the reasons why she(?) made X or Y decision in the fansub and it's... illuminating, I'll say that much. Pic related, where she(?) writes a wall of text essay pondering whether pokémon (the creatures) engage in gay anal sex.

A result of this mixture of poor Japanese and tranny mental illness is that the dialogue can be very confusing. Way too many people and pokémon are being referred to as "they" to the point where you can't figure out who the fuck they're even talking about.

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>>58273093
Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining it to me. I stopped watching after the end of generation 6 and haven't seen Journeys so it would make sense why I haven't heard of this before.

It kind of reminds me of the memes of Serena sleeping with Alain that popped up after Ash lost to him at the league. I never found that funny either and it similarly was run into the ground and spammed for years, making it even less funny than it already was.

Unfunny memes seems to be a trend over the past few years.

>>58273105
Thanks. I'm used to detecting leftist ideology in shit (like Bible translations that declare war on masculine pronouns and produce hilariously clunky excuses for English), so I can read past it. Thanks for warning me to stick with PM for movies, though. Again, the Japanese captions will be my crutch in necessary places.

So BW nepobabies are coming to Horizons, do you guys think they will talk about their families? Like Drayton talking about his gramps and the obvious preference of Iris as his succesor

>>58273148
No problem anon. That mental filter you describe is a necessary skill in the modern world, being able to mentally detect and filter out poison.

On the topic of Bible translations into English the best 2 that I would recommend are the Douay-Rheims translation and the Knox translation, in that order. The DR is a bit old fashioned in its language but unless the reader has an IQ below room temperature then they should be able to understand what it's talking about. The footnotes are handly to help explain terminology too. The Knox is a lot more modern and reads perfectly fine and clearly.

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>>58273151
Nigger this isn't the Horizons thread. I don't know if you're the same cunt who keeps posting about Horizons but newsflash we don't care faggot so fuck off to /padt/ if you want to talk about that slop.

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>>58270598
I never said my post was about shipping Ash x Pikachu, all I said was the only one Ash "ends up with" at the end of each season has always been Pikachu.

>>58273151
Nigger this is the Horizons thread. I don't know if you're the same cunt who keeps posting about Ashime but newsflash we do care faggot so stay here in /ptsd/ if you want to talk about this slop.

>>58273166
My African-American brethren with the Vulgate translations! Good taste. Love my DR and Knox Bibles and love the Latin Mass. Knox is a better Bible for reading to kids in my opinion than supposed "Kids Bibles." If they can understand Tolkien or Lewis, then they can appreciate and understand Knox.

But yeah, it really sucks that far-left trannies inject their bullshit into things meant for everyone, like anime subs. Even worse if a translator is probably worse than just using ChatGPT.

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>>58273205
Based. It's a pleasant surprise to run into another trad here of all places. I'm Latin Mass all the way and pretty much only use the Douay-Rheims and Latin Vulgate. And I agree re: the Knox and children. Modern parents treat their children as if they're terminally retarded and wonder why they turn out so poorly 18 years later. They must not remember being children themselves, who are far more intelligent than modern adults give them credit for. Too busy infantilising them. In case you're unfamiliar, the Latin Mass Directory and the SSPX's Mass map are must haves whenever travelling:
https://www.latinmassdir.org/
https://fsspx.org/en/mass-centers

>But yeah, it really sucks that far-left trannies inject their bullshit into things meant for everyone, like anime subs.
Yep. It brings to mind pic related.

>>58273005
Jesus. I got 3.

>>58273073
>I can't speak for anything after generation 7 since those are the most recent games I've played but before then at least what I'm saying holds true.
They're still excellent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vclKjpof9Q

>>58273117
It's similar to those Serena memes except where those where just unfunny "this happened because my drawing says so lol" spam, the Pikachu thing very quickly went from "ha ha this screencap looks kinda dirty" to the biggest fucking autists imaginable sitting there for literal hours insisting the writers wrote "then Ash has sex with Pikachu" into the script because they finally found "evidence" that Serena "canonically lost" and are not going to let that go.
It's somewhat died down now, but holy shit that stuff got driven so hard into the ground it makes any other forced meme pale in comparison.

The Pikachu meme is good because it makes shipperfags mad

>>58273655
>finally found "evidence" that Serena "canonically lost"
But she did lose. She's the only girl who officially lost.

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>>58273659
It's mostly only Amourshippers getting mad. They're so insecure after all the L's Serena's gotten over their years that even a little meme is enough to send them full tilt posting entire paragraphs how "forced" it is all while still insisting Ash x Serena is canon.

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How accurate is this

Welp, here we go again

Still pissed they didn't give him a fairy type

>58273659
>58273663
>58273685
Holy meds

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>his creator hated him
>he was constantly yanked like a dog by his "surrogate father" until Game Freak had to put a stop to that
>his final series was a mess because of course Yuyama had to have that last fuck you
>his VA had bad blood with the production team
>his presence constantly erased
>his legacy is divisive
>you can't say anything about him here because some retard is gonna screech "self-inserter" at you like a monkey
>the only people who still care for him are bunch of fanfic writers and a yume

If Ash were a real person, he'd probably have crippling depression with the amount of shit he's been through.

>>58273828
>>his presence constantly erased
The Greninja shit?

>58273776
shipper tears are delicious

>>58273828
>and a yume
Context?

Ashfags are such victimists faggots

>>58273830
Not just Greninja, but in general. Remember the when he showed up in Masters with a hyped-up event and stuff? Well, he's now unobtainable and erased from the game's history.

>>58273843
That's not erasure the crossover ran its course and stopped getting dev time.

>>58273723
You'll get Mr Mime and you'll like it

>>58273840
I'd normally agree, but the fact that he isn't even mentioned in books whereas every other character is makes it feel more like a deliberate erasure. Or who knows, it might be something involving OLM and ShoPro, given that even the anime's distribution has been (and it still is) a gigantic mess, but I'm just rambling.

>>58273887
Meant for >>58273851
I shouldn't be posting while drowsy.

>>58273843
>Well, he's now unobtainable and erased from the game's history.
That's more of a loicense stuff tho, the same happened with Miku in Blue Archive

>>58273841
Back to your thread, Likofag

>>58273900
Lol, dont you say this wasnt a hugbox?

>>58273828
The ultimate underdog

>>58273659
Nobody's mad about it, not even Amourshippers.