>unnecessarily faster than Ashninja but hits consideribly weaker even without counting held items only Ashninja can useWhat now?
I still use mommynaught
>>58261417>it’s just hisuian sammurott but worselol
Only HE can save the species.
>>58261417source?
>>58261437A mega would always be worse, even TPC knows this, as you wouldn't be able to use mega CHARIZARDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik6IGiCzFzQ
>>58261587Lycanrock mocks Mega Charizard XY
>>58261514>>58251992
>>58261417Ashninja isn't even a thing any more so it's better by default
>>58261633>Strong Jaw for Feraligatr>10 extra special attackLmao, it’s doomed. Great game design, truly equivalent to them not realizing Aegislash would use special attacks.
>>58262132>they removed Ash Greninja because it's the only way anyone would use Mega Greninja That's not a good point for the mega anon
>>58261507So what would the spread be? +210 BST? +110 BST like Ashninja but divided differently?
>>58262496No, because it was stupidly popular despite all the seething about it you see here, kids loved it more than Charizard and everyone knows GF is petty and retarded
Speed will be more important in realtime context
>>58262516What's GF gonna do if Mega Greninja is more popular than Mega Charizard?
>>58263980You already know bro, like I think even Eevee shilling got toned down
>>58262544Will it, really? We have no idea how this shit will be, maybe it gets to a point where you objectively don't need more speed because the button imput reaches the mon fast enough and you simply need no more speed and higher offenses would be better
>>58263980Not gonna happen, Ashninja carried the Ashnime and was the first time people had legit reasons to think Ash would win a league (given he actually fought the fucking champion well), people went crazy with it to the point the backslash from stealing the match made them let Ash win next gen, despite being a more light-hearted and comedic series this time around. Even if everyone likes Mega Greninja look and ends up being more useful than Ashninja was in gen 7 (complicated given it's a ranked reward, while Ashninja was a free demo gift) it's just not the same, the guy isn't even in the anime (and even it is later, it's not gonna be a main character like it was in gen 6)They would need one hell of a campaign for Mega Greninja to reach Ash Greninja levels of popularity, and they clearly don't want that
>>58264330We've had several gameplay demonstrations and know that speed affects cooldown
>>58264362>Not gonna happen, Ashninja carried the Ashnime It didn't carry shit, the ashime was completely bombing by the time Assnigger was a thing.Hence why they tried to shill in the main series games and revamped it to compete with yokai watch.
>>58264370I know anon, that still doesn't mean it's everything, we don't know how the speed -> cooldown conversion is calculated, we don't know how it psynergizes with the order reaching the mon, or the mon executing the attack, we don't know if diminishing returns are a thing or not.It's way too early to know if the default optimal spread includes maxing out speed like in the turn based games
>>58261417I wonder if it will be able to use Battle Bond first then go mega.Also the "leak" indicates that mega gren has Technician, but I heard that it could be a placeholder ability
>>58264374Next time you can just admit you weren't following the anime. Ash's Greninja literally raised the species popularity to the top in twice separate polls, people loved him, Mega Greninja simply can't reach that level of hype without active shilling which they aren't going to do
>>58264392It would explain removing Ash form, that way he can get the Battle Bond boost AND the Mega
>>58261437No? Samurott is mainly there to set up spikes while picking up 1 or 2 KOs. Ninja is a sweeper or a revenge killer.
>>58264490This looks underwhelming for a mon that can’t use items. And Samurott is better for not eating up your megaslot
>>58261417>but hits consideribly weaker They're giving it adaptability in champions though
>>58261507unironically a better design
>>58261417Its probably worse but I wouldn't mind a dressing down for Greninja is was already the most minmaxed starter given huge favoritism and then got that weird pseudo mega form.
>>58261417He will carry on the legacy
>>58264681real?
Okay but which one is cuntiest?
>>58266133Obviously the one in black, since there's only one Ash-Greninja and it's Ash's specific Greninja, which is a male.
>>58266133You just know a furry did this and I hate it because I love the color choices
>>58265971You are getting Technician and you are gonna like it
Ash-Greninja is LITERALLY the only reason why Greninja is the most popular Pokemon ever you stupid braindead pieces of shits
>>58268552Greninja's connection *to* Ash, at least
>>58268552Let's not get carried away. Without Ash Greninja the mon would have NEVER reached top 1, that's true, but claiming it's the literal only reason for its popularity is absurd, Greninja was already liked as soon it was officially seen for its cool design and concept, the way it was busted in competitive made it even more popular and being Ash's non-Pikachu ace (even without the special form) was enough to boost it even more. Hell Sakurai even added it to Smash on his own just because he liked it before the mon was publicy seen by fans, Greninja is just cool as fuck.I would say Ash-Greninja is 50% the reason Greninja became that popular. A huge as fuck amount, not the entire reason, just a very big one.
>>58268552Ash-Greninja came about BECAUSE of Greninja's popularity, not the other way around.
>>58261417>Mega Beedrill but worse They HATE this frog
>>58268861Nigga even base Greninja is better than Mega Beedrill what are you talking about
