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Jessie & James edition

/padt/ is completely dominated by Horizons chat. Talk about the 1,339 original series episodes and associated 23 movies here without butting into and disrupting the discussion of Horizons.

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Rather than getting back into genwars, can we talk about subs again? It seems PM is generally considered the only really good ones, and SOS is apparently trannyslop. I'm old enough to remember P-O, who in a better world would've given us the whole Original Series long before SOS did it.
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>>58280519
Sea of Serenity have almost finished covering the currently unsubbed episodes. They are about half way through proofreading the AG era of the anime with all of the "translation" (and I use that term lightly) already done.

Something I wonder is, when SOS have finished this will any other fansub groups even bother? It seems to me that most likely SOS is going to be the only option. I can't see other groups dedicating the years required to undertake such a massive project that's already been done by others, regardless of the fact that it's low quality trannyslop as you rightly point out.

If there are any millionaires reading, go contact the PocketMonsters group and ask them how much money they would need to agree to do the whole thing. Short of that, or official subs which are probably never going to happen, I don't see any improvement on the horizon.
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>>58276433
>This thread proves that Alain saved the anime because without him there are no discussions
Alain burned this series to the ground with NO CHANCE for a rematch...
Truly the best rival.
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>>58280540
Psh, nothin' personnel Shitoshi
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>>58280537
>They are about half way through proofreading the AG era of the anime with all of the "translation" (and I use that term lightly) already done.
They already published AG last year. I'm pretty sure they only have DP left.
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>>58280561
Yeah you're right anon, I went back in and checked and it is indeed Diamond & Pearl. I was misremembering pic related from the tranny discord.
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>>58280537
>>58280603
"Proofread," eh? I'll bet lol...
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>>58280603
But the latter half of DP has been subbed for nearly 15 years... And that includes this episode >>58280537
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>>58280686
They've address why they're doing the whole of generation 4 in their tranny discord, it's come up a few times before, but I can't for the life of me remember what they said.
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>>58280540
How would you react if Alain returned and he had a Mega Greninja that defeated the evil vines Ash created?
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>>58280746
Underrated pairing. Honestly I used to hate it but it grew on me.
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>>58280746
Meh, Dawn x Kenny is the superior ship. He won her fair and square after defeating Ash plus they're both interested in contests.
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>>58280796
Probably for "consistency" with their theythem pronouns and retard spellings.
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>>58280540
Mega Greninja is so Alain coded. It's like the AG retcon wasn't enough... they just had to do this to give one last middle finger to Ash and HIS Greninja.
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Dawn x Kenny and May x Drew both fucking suck as couples, and you don't have to be a raging Ashfag to know that. They both share the same issue: why would you fall in love with someone who constantly belittles you as a person? That shit isn't respectable or noble.
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>>58281331
>Women like bad boys
>If you can't handle bants then you can't handle being a couple
>Shared passions are stronger passions
and there's no coming back from this emasculation.
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>>58281013
>Probably for "consistency" with their theythem pronouns and retard spellings.
I can't explain how much I hate retarded "gender neutral" translation policies.
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>>58281367
>"you don't have to be a raging Ashfag"
>still posts Ash shit to feel validated
Please read a real romance story.
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>>58281386
Please rewatch the episode where May left to be with Drew.
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>>58281367
>Kenny gets jealous of Ash and Dawn traveling together
>DEMAND that she go with him if he wins a Pokemon Battle
>This makes Dawn so uncomfortable that she writes him a letter instead of saying no to his face
Legendary episode. Ladies, don't let a guy treat you like this.
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>>58281391
Read a real romance story first, then you can talk to me about love in Pokémon.
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>>58281409
>real romance story
White knights don't get the girls, they get the leftovers. Sorry kid but you'll wake up to this reality one day.
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>Shippingshit and obsession with subs (Again)
Jesus Christ, stop beating a dead horse, it's been dead for years. Or did you fags ran out of new fuel to talk about?
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>>58281415
You mean the same reality where bad boys end up either jailed or cancelled because they or the girls did something stupid? I already woke up to it. Contest and Penguin would go on that same direction in real life.
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>>58281434
Reality is May left with Drew. Turns out girls like boys who share their hobbies and treat them as equals rather than fragile dolls
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>treating a girl with disrespect by telling her she sucks at contests is "treating her as equal" now
Good thing May parted ways with Drew and is now with Max and Serena doing game-styled contests. Maybe those two (and Lisia) will be much more positive influences to her.
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>>58281467
>believing a girl can't be insulted because they're a girl is "treating her as equal" now
This is why nice guys finish last and why May left for Drew.
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>"May left for Drew"
>which is why they don't share a single scene together after AG ended
And people here used to complain a lot about Amour vs. whatever other ships back in gen 7.
The verdict? There's only one good romance in Pokémon and that's the Yancy/Curtis sidequest from B2W2. Everything else is shit.
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>>58281420
The craziest thing is that shipping isn't even an aspect of the anime outside of XY so can it even be considered anime discussion? There really is nothing to discuss
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Johto filler is so ass
I'd say it's the series with the most boring filler episodes
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>>58281564
Come to think of it, how many "filler episodes" are actually good?

The Regina episode comes to mind, but the more I think about it, the more I feel like most fillers are loved because they have a cute COTD in them. Not that I complain though, cute COTDs are based.
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>>58281614
Surprisingly, a lot of BW's fillers could be pretty good. The Gothitelle episode early on was particularly good, as was the Zoroark episode during the Decolore arc. XY had really solid fillers, too, as everyone knows, with the crossdressing Serena taking on a life of its own with fan art, fanfics, and memes. For AG, I particularly recall the time-travel AG episode with May and Meowth to be so good that they could've done a movie with that plot imo.
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>>58281614
SM's fillers are generally fun
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>>58280953
I remember having a crush on the redheaded tomboy.
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>>58281667
Yep. Adding to >>58281657, that baseball episode was fun. I would've loved to see the other companions through the generations play baseball, too.
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>>58281614
IMO the fillers get better with each season... except Journeys
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>>58281657
BW was just good overall. Self inserters only hate it because the first episode made them mad.
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>>58280953
Rejection in the port felt so hard the dub had to soften the blow
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>episode is a very, very rare instance of Ash having an actual solo adventure with none of his friends involved
>had a time machine
>had a character that travelled back in time
>Ash witnessed it
>he could've used it at any point in time to show others what the future looks like
>heck, he could've used to meet adult versions of his friends
>he just parts ways with the girl he met, returns to his friends and then we all forget about the time machine
This episode has been in my head since I first watched it as a kid, and it I still think about it as an adult. One day someone has to write something with it.
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>>58281700
Nah. BW falls off a cliff the moment Ash wins the 8th badge and it's almost entirely shitters till the end. Iris was definitely overhated, though. People just couldn't handle the bants and the teasing.
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>>58281806
Wasn't that around the time Poseidon pranked Japan?
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People would love BW more if the secondary rivals had more presence. They carried all the tournament arcs.
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>>58281817
You may be onto something there, for all the problems BW had, I remember the side rivals being quite good and entertaining whenever they showed up.
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>>58281420
We are here to torment you.
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>>58281776
Where's that fanfic anon gone to?
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what is there to talk about
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>>58282004
Which one of all? Too many people were posting ideas on what if scenerarios and fic pitches.
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>>58282004
Which one? The only one I know is the Dawnfag years ago who invented a crackship just to write a story.
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>>58282074
>>58282075
The one who came here a few threads ago and said he was going to write something and asked for ideas. He was also asking whether he should wait the time it takes to register an AO3 account.
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>>58281614
>>58281667
My issue with Pokemon the Series as I've grown up is that I just don't like Team Rocket when they're not needed. I know that's haram, but it really is TOO MUCH that they *must* cause or be the fault of most fillers. Like, why is getting to watch movies in a featured PotD need a TRio plot for it in a random AG episode for Camerupt?

I think that's why I like early BW so much. TR may be generic, but them not suffocating the show every single episode was such a breath of fresh air.
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Genuine question for the XY fans: Since we never got them, how would you have handled returns for May (to shill ORAS in an alternate universe where her VO didn't lose her voice) and/or Iris (meeting Ash and the gang, not just her Clair special)?
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>>58282144
One positive change BW made that continued into XY, SM, and even JN was that it set the standard that TR didn't need to be in every single episode. They could disappear for several episodes at a time and leave the MCs to their own thing, then reappear later when a particular plot wanted them.
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>>58282159
>it set the standard that TR didn't need to be in every single episode
Wish they did that several gens sooner. TR were easily the weakest part of the anime simply because they made sure almost every episode had a miniature filler arc.
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>>58281564
Midwit's bitching and moaning about "le fillers".
Genius actually understands that self-contained episodes are the actual meat of every long-running anime. This is especially true for very formulaic series like Pokemon where plot-relevant episodes mostly boil down to Ash capturing new Pokemon or fighting another gym leader or vaguely retracing game plot in other ways.
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>>58282147
Considering Tripokalons are based on ORAS contests anyway, the most logical course of action would've been to make her a performer. Fuck, have her replace Nene as Serena's fourth rival, nobody liked Nene anyway.
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>>58280906
Hilarious, but Mega Chesnaught is more likely
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>>58283288
I don't see it, because May would then overshadow Millefeui and Shauna's rival roles.
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For the last month my mind keeo wandering back to the first episodes of S1.
Particularly all the episodes in viridian forest.
I like them a lot.
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>>58282159
>One positive change BW made that continued into XY, SM, and even JN was that it set the standard that TR didn't need to be in every single episode. They could disappear for several episodes at a time and leave the MCs to their own thing, then reappear later when a particular plot wanted them.
Agreed. I like the trio but I don't need to see them all the time. Even your favourite food gets annoying if you eat it too often.
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>>58282147
>Genuine question for the XY fans: Since we never got them, how would you have handled returns for May (to shill ORAS in an alternate universe where her VO didn't lose her voice)
Unironically, after the end of XY have the Kalos gang go to Hoenn so and have Ash challenge to Hoenn Battle Frontier. It would be a nice mirror to Hoenn where they challenged the Kanto Battle Frontier. Gen 6 was a fairly short generation, I might just be getting dementia but as far as I recall it was cut short. No third versions, rushing straight on to gen 7. I would have paired that along with a Z version and extend gen 6 by another year to year and a half.

A Hoenn Battle Frontier final arc of the generation 6 anime would also more easily dovetail with Serena going there after the series. It wouldn't be as out of the blue or random as it was in reality. Have her get to know May while there and near the end come to the decision that she's going to stay in Hoenn for a while rather than return to Kalos just yet.

>and/or Iris (meeting Ash and the gang, not just her Clair special)?
Give more plot and screentime to Goodra and Noivern, and have Ash reach out to Iris about them given that they're dragon types. It would fit with Iris' dragon type focus and I don't imagine it's much of a stretch to imagine she would be up for going to Kalos to see new (to her) dragon types.
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>>58282159
>One positive change BW made that continued into XY, SM, and even JN

Guess what. the quality of Pokemon anime started to going down from those series.
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>>58283102
I like the comfy filler episodes. It can be mind numbing torture at times if you're trying to binge watch through the entire series in chronological order but the anime was not made with that in mind and it's important to keep that in mind. You can spend a few weeks watching Kanto and Johto whereas in real life it took YEARS for the anime to get that far. If you space it out and don't overdo it the filler is really nice, once it's a good episode which most of the early ones are.
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>>58283452
There's a certain special charm to that era. I especially like the S.S. Anne arc, probably one of my favourites.
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>>58281812
No, that was around the 3rd gym, causing the eventual cancellation of Rocket vs Plasma.
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>>58283294
While not as likely as Mega Chesnaught, he could also use a Mega Malamar.
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>>58283856
>the quality of Pokemon anime started to going down from those series.

Agreed with the exception of XY. The generation 6 anime is a dead cat bounce, and what a beautiful bounce it was.
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>>58283873
Mega Starmie should look like those compass roses
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>>58283856
>Positive change
>Going down
Jesus Christ, based BW mindbroke you
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>>58283882
>Agreed with the exception of XY.
XY series got mogged by Youkai watch/
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>>58280537
If it took this long for such a well-known anime from the '90s and '00s with no official subs to get fansubs at all for every episode, then chances feel slim to hopeless. While I'm sure that we're not the only ones dissatisfied with quality of SOSSubs, the amount of episodes that need to be redone could deter other groups from taking it on the first place.
Possible solutions:
>Official subs pipe dream
>Have multiple fansub groups who each take on a specific series
>Have one fansub group that can give out better results do it, even it takes another 6 years
>Vigilante editor that can fix the names and terms, even if that doesn't fix the other translation issues
>Keep warning viewers, maybe even tell them to watch dub to fill in the gaps left by fansubs that aren't SOSSubs
>AI-translated subs
>Making our own fansub group with blackjack and waifus
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>>58284074
All pokemon series got mogged by Youkai Watch because Youkai Watch was better than the Ashime.
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>>58281331
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>>58284799
>Girl x Not Ash is a bad ship actually, you don't have to be a raging Ashfag to know that.
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>poké mon anime thread is dominated by pokémon anime discussion
>self-inserting ESL's seethe because people want to talk about the anime, rather than their self-insert
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>>58283873
>>58283890
This map is from the 1998 Pokémon calendar. The artist is Mitsuhiro Arita.

https://hirespokemon.tumblr.com/post/188232745246/possibly-late-1997-awesome-ancient-looking-kanto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXmDsWHZh-A
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>>58284318

>Needorino
>Gänger
>Iwake
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>>58284318
Why bother with subs for the pokemon anime in the first place? The dub VA's are good and the localized jokes are often funnier than the japanese ones.
All you miss out on is shit like Starmie being hermaphrodites.
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Trainers, we are so back
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For any who watched season 1 in jp, was Ash’s personality still somewhat snarky? Like the remarks Ash uses in those videos where Ash roasts people type of snarky, or was that a collective memory from watching the dub?
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>>58284318
PM Subs
>Woah, Nidorino's using Horn Attack.
>But Gangar dodged all of them.
>And there it is! It's Gangar's Hypnosis!
>It seems like Nidorino was a bad choice...
>It fell asleep!
>Well...
>Nidorino's getting switched out. What now?
>It's an Iwark!
>Come on Iwark, use your bulk!
>A Tackle attack! How do you like that?
>Gangar dodged it!
>Gangar's been active today. It's really well-raised!

SOS Subs
>Oh my! It's Needorino's HORN STRIKE attack!
>But Gänger dodged brilliantly!
>Here it is! Gänger's HYPNOSIS.
>This is not good for Needorino!
>They've fallen asleep.
>Just like this, Needorino has been withdrawn!
>What will be brought out next?
>This is Iwake!
>Now Iwake...
>They take advantage of their huge bodies for their TACKLE attacks. How's that?!
>They dodged it. This Gänger's got moves!
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>>58280454
> Giovanni has been an villain for 26 years.
> We know nothing about his character or his motivation
> It as if the anime done absolutely nothing with him for 26 years
HZfags claim there's nothing left for Ash in the anime, but many unresolved plots from past series were ignored. They had Ash win a village league and defeat a champion in a poorly executed, poorly animated Master Tournament, then declared his story over..

I prefer an arc where Ash reunites with Greninja and, with AZ and Emma's help, eliminates the dark vines endangering Kalos, rather than RVT spending 68 episodes searching for a way to stop Spinel.

Let's be honest, as long as Serena reappears with a stunning redesign surpassing all lead girls, XY fans and Amourshippers will go wild over this arc.
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>>58285327
Can you go one thread without crying about Horizons, Alain, or Serena?
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>>58285327
>ash won a league and become in the world champion
>still not enough for this fucker
gtfo fagmon
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this singer sure liked to make sad EDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hCvgio2y5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL3TpX0R9cg
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>>58284815
>didn't say a single positive thing about Ash or his ships
>you still made it about Ash anyway
You Contestfags are just as insecure as actual Ash shippers, goodness' sake. No wonder why some anons here hate shipping discussion in general, y'all don't have real arguments.
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>>58285600
Curtis x Rosa fucking suck as couples. Ash x Rosa is better and you don't have to be a raging Ashfag to know that.
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>>58284318
Some subs, even with problems, are better than no subs but the line has to be drawn at AI slop. Worse than having none at all. Have you seen the state of AI slop subs? They are horrifically bad.
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>>58284318
>spoiler
a /vp/ fansub group would be S tier
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>>58284815
Ash needs better posture
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>>58284967
>Why bother with subs for the pokemon anime in the first place? The dub VA's are good and the localized jokes are often funnier than the japanese ones.
I agree, I really like the dub and it's peak comfy.

However, consider this. The dub is good yes, but the original in Japanese is different from the dub, tonally and otherwise, that it feels like an entirely different show. So why not have the best of both worlds? Having both the dub and subtitles gives you 2 good shows. Going back and watching the sub after having seen the dub, it feels completely new.
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>>58285600
Nate and Yancy are the superior, thinking man's ship
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>>58285638
I'd watch an abridged version but not a mildly different sub or dub.
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>>58285609
I like Blake (Nate) x Whitley (Rosa) from Pokémon Special
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>>58285065
Fucking hell this is unreadable.
>They take advantage of their huge bodies
"They" is singular here, so why the fuck is "bodies" in plural? These faggots can't even keep their trannyglish consistent.

I also like how SOS Subs completely skipped that final line about Gengar being well raised because it wasn't in the captions.
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>>58280454
James was the king of the English dub
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>>58285025
Holy based
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>>58280454
the Japanese soundtrack sounds cooler prove me wrong
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>>58285629
One translated the first two episodes of DP. They're in the /dg/ OP.
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>>58285327
Ashtards cannot comprehend how people can like and get attached to characters and ships that don't involve Ash, meanwhile I still get to enjoy new MayxDrew fanarts every week.
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It sucks knowing Beauty and the Beach will never get an official release.
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I'm starting to think Ash has a curse of some kind. There's no way a fictional 10-year-old with the IQ of an ant can derail both fans *and* haters into making it all about him even when you explicitly tell them it's not about him. Either that or Drewfags are just as retarded as Ashfags. I don't know, fuck this shipping shit.
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>>58285065
Wew... this is actually even funnier once you see the above Discord shit about "proofreading." Like, who the fuck "proofread" and said this was okay? Even if you didn't know a lick of Japanese, you could read those "English" sentences and know something's wrong with the translation.
>>58285527
AG ED 1 is absolute top-tier kino. Probably one of my favorite Pokémon themes, period.
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>>58280454
In the first couple of episodes, they seemed like they could have been legitimate threats. It didn't take long for them to become the relatable comic relief we all love today.
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>>58283831
In Master Journeys, they could even appear two or three times in an episode!
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>>58285963
That wasn't a team. It was one guy. Nobody really knows the quality of those subs because nobody really paid attention to him, so he quit after doing the 2. Picrel is the only frame from them that ever gets posted in /dg/ anyway, and it's to troll.
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>>58285028
I, too, would like to know.
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>>58286040
They genuinely can't fathom rivals to lovers or anything that doesn't involve Ash. And it's so sad.
Sad because even with canon telling them otherwise they still can't accept it.
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>>58284318
SOS is so aggressively unwatchable I can see others resubbing the show at some point down the line.
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>>58285028
>>58286126
All those "le ebin roasts" are just the dub making shit up, at least.
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>>58285945
why would anybody disagree with this
it's one of the major criticisms of the modern dub
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>>58286409
because japanese pop vocals are cringe inducing
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>>58284318
Subs are for queers. The dub is an objective improvement for any episode that was localized up through Hoenn, and if you disagree but need subs (because you're too retarded to learn Japanese) you're just a pathetic nip worshiping subhuman.
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>>58281733
I was there
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>>58281806
The issue I had with Iris is the same I had with early Misty - she didn't even seem to like Ash. And I mean as friends. Ash had a banther with May (and later Misty after she chill down) and it felt they were friends even while bickering. Iris seemed like she wasn't particularly close to Ash.
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>>58281806
>Iris was definitely overhated, though. People just couldn't handle the bants and the teasing.
It was never about bants and the teasing since Misty and Dawn did the same. It was always & always about that Dragonite.
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>>58286988
Shut the fuck up Famon, the adults are speaking and not asshurt morons getting jealous over someone else having a Pokemon first.
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If Iris was a champion and mentored Ash to become Kanto Champion then self inserters would have loved Iris and BW
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>if something was completely different from what it actually was then people would have had a different opinion on it
Yes
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>>58287039
I think Iris could be a kickass rival
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https://x.com/HurricaneKishor/status/1968470270953521244
geg
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>>58287169
>ESL
>Constantly moans about Horizons in a Thread not intended for it while starting shit with shippingturds for attention across the board
>Doxxed himself by showing his own IP address.
>It's a mobile IP range from Bangladesh
The mods did nothing wrong.
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>>58286087
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm a Drewfag now because I enjoy the romantic aspect that the anime itself create with his and May relationship? Is wonderful how much you can enjoy a show when you are not self inserting in the main character. Ashtards spends years reeeeeing about Drew, Iris, Alan, Goh, etc because they "took" something they through Ash was entitled too.
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>>58287039
Iris has always been stronger than Ash, she even won the Club Battle tournament against him. She has been a trainer since she was a little kid, way before Ash got Pikachu
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https://x.com/SerebiiOTD/status/1970443274382151724
Remember when /a/ FREAKED cause black character as MC?
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>>58287222
Shippertards are so obsessed with "defending" their headcanon ship against others' headcanon ships they can't wrap their heads around the fact that sometimes romantic pairings actually exist in the show itself, complete with romance moments viewers enjoy for what they are. This happened with both Haruka/Shuu and Satoshi/Serena .
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>>58287319
I remember being hyped, especially after how good DP was, but then the first episode mentioned that Ash was still 10 and Pikachu lost to a level 5 Snivy
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>>58286103
>AG ED 1 is absolute top-tier kino. Probably one of my favorite Pokémon themes, period.
I'm old enough to remember when AG actually premiered, and recall a lot of people were commenting that the show "felt like a real anime now" because of the ending theme and the eyecatches.
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>58287222
Of course you had to be an ESL. First tell me a single good thing about Contest that doesn't involve you reeeing about Ash or Ashtards, maybe then I'll approach your statements with any nuance. Ash is not even a good character, he's an idiot who shouldn't be attracting female characters because of how stupid he is, so I don't know why you think seething about him will convince me that Drew or his romance are good.
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>>58284318
For literally what reason should it be iwake instead of at least iwaku?
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>>58287476
>Ash is not even a good character, he's an idiot
Here's how I know you have poor standards.
I bet you only see protagonists like Jin-woo and Sesshomaru, with personalities like brick walls, as good because they're stronger than everybody in the story—characters NEETs self-insert into.

If you opened your eyes, you'd notice 80% of popular, good protagonists are idiots like Ash.
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>>58284956
>>58287532
From the translator notes:
>95. Onix // Iwake
>From "iwa" 岩 (rock) [Japanese] and "snake" [English].
In short, they rewrote the Japanese (イワーク) in light of the English word "snake" (スネーク).

Additionally:
>33. Nidorino // Needorino
>From "needle" [English] and "ni" 二 (two) or "nido" 二度 (twice) [Japanese], and -ino, a masculine
name ending.
>94. Gengar // Gänger
>From doppelgänger.
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>>58287476
If you don't understand the appeal of Contest then you obviously don't interact with women(who are not trannies)
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>>58287574
Nidorino's name is spelled ニドリーノ while needle is ニードル. It's not literally the "need" from "needle", it shortens the vowel sound - that's why it's spelled "nid" instead of "need".

These people are retarded.
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>THIS IS ASH'S ULTIMATE TEAM
>Krookodile
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>>58287754
>THIS IS ASH'S ULTIMATE TEAM
>includes any of his pokemon who couldn't win a real league
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>>58287754
GODkodile was the strongest Unovamon Ash got
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>THIS IS ASH'S ULTIMATE TEAM
>They put Lycanroc in it

I feel like most people didn't get the idea behind Ash and Gladion's final battle.

It's a subversion, the strongest pokémon are defeated early, leaving only the trainer's weakest pokémon.

Lycanroc didn't beat Gladion's ace, it beat his weakest mon.
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>>58287778
>the strongest Unovamon Ash got
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>>58287574
I think it's completely retarded to use the Japanese names when the English names are official and widely known. It says a lot of the mentality of these people.
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>>58287574
So they are literally just making up altered names then.
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>>58287855
I think it's completely retarded to make up new names when the original names are official and original.
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>>58287932
Literally yes. They wrote pages of TN explanation to rationalize their retardation.
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All japanese names have official romanizations used in merchandise, there's no reason to change their names
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>>58287855
I think it's correct to use the Pokémon original japanese names, but ngl I cringe a little when I read some attack names. I think PM use official english names, for example U-turn, but other groups make a literal translation and call it Dragonfly Turnaround or some shit like that
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>>58286103
>Wew... this is actually even funnier once you see the above Discord shit about "proofreading." Like, who the fuck "proofread" and said this was okay? Even if you didn't know a lick of Japanese, you could read those "English" sentences and know something's wrong with the translation.

No idea who the supposed proofreaders are but they're probably mentally ill trannies like the rest of the population in their little discord.
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>>58286389
>SOS is so aggressively unwatchable I can see others resubbing the show at some point down the line.
Let us hope that you're correct, anon
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>>58286564
The later dub is utterly cringe inducing. Compare the dub and the original for XY.

And this is coming from someone who not only likes the dub of the earlier seasons, but actually prefers it.
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>>58287219
This is too funny kek
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>>58287476
>Yancy and Nate
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>>58287932
>>58287959

This shit is even worse than I realised. Imagine spending SIX YEARS of your life pulling late nights translating and subtitling a chinese cartoon after you come home from your full time job, and THIS is what you have to show for it...
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>>58287786
>the strongest pokémon are defeated early
So Melmetal is stronger than Pikachu?
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>>58287476
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>>58287169
so is this famon?
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This retarded old woman has become annoying after getting old, what has she done now? no wonder they removed her
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SOS are our SAVIORS
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>>58289003
Okay but what's the original image they posted say? We already know Japan don't like Rica anymore after it was revealed she bullied her coworkers and used Ash's voice to be mean to people.
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>>58289082
>used Ash's voice to be mean to people.
That's fucking hilarious
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>>58289082 (me)
I looked into it and apparently she's been tweeting racist stuff about foreigners in Japan. Pretty based honestly, if she's going to be belligerent it may as well go to a good cause rather than to innocent coworkers.
>>58289161
Agreed.
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>>58289082
That japan has too many signs in foreign languages and it doesn't feel like Japan anymore
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>>58289168
That wasn't Rica, that was Musashi(Jessie) VA
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>>58289232
They're both doing it? Lol based.
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>>58289168
>>58289175
>>58289232
>>58289242
Everything Rica did is forgiven, then. Ash being a nationalist who hates the jeets and niggers would be based.



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