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Reposting because this was posted not long before the last thread died.

PMD Sky: Postgame QoL Edition 1.1 has been released! This update adds 2 brand new optional dungeons, Strange Swamp, and Wither Woods. An explorer in Spinda's Cafe has information about them.

Also, Tatsugiri, Phantump, and Trevenant have been added to the game! They can be found in the new dungeons added this update, and will surely be useful additions to your team. They also have their own exclusive items, the Sushi Scale, and the Stump Hat. (Ditto and Unown have had their exclusive items removed because of this... In the future I would like to add them back in though.)

Lastly, many miscellaneous changes, fixes, and improvements have been made. Check changelog 1.1.txt for a full list of additions.

Download link here: https://mega.nz/folder/ARs2TDaC#ybnFi5D88ZQ6QeEKZNgjQA

The xdelta patch is to be applied to a clean US rom of Explorers of Sky, NOT the Xenophobia rom. The correct rom should be called Pokemon Mystery Dungeon - Explorers of Sky (USA).

Enjoy the hack, and again, feel free to provide feedback in the thread.

>>58354694
I like to consider Kyurem as the final boss. Bittercold's fight is essentially a forced win, I'm genuinely curious if you can even lose it.

>>58354694
>>When playing PMD games do you use the same starters/partners for each game (except GTI) or do you mix it up? Also, what are your picks?
i'm not telling you my picks because it's an autistic ass list
but i do mix it up yes
>>What stories are you sick of seeing in PMD hacks and why?
retellings of the game only slightly tweaked
>>What's the most scary group of enemies you've encountered when spawning into a floor?
anything with earth power tends to scare the fuck out of me so if it's a dungeon with multiple... i'm panicking

can't really answer the last one as there aren't really any standout moments

>>58355452
>retellings of the game only slightly tweaked
Wish that wasn't common in comics too.

>>58355921
For some reason it just became the norm in the PMD community. No fucking clue why. I'm not any other fan communities, but I don't imagine this is something that really happens elsewhere

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I ate the food. Please laugh.

>>58356285
I laughed

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>>58356285

>>58354851
Nice, might check it out.

>>58356247
I think it's because the PMD games have a big focus on self inserting already. Everyone takes the quiz, gets their pokemon, their partner, etc., and their playthrough will feel somewhat personal. So, trying to recreate that personal feel in a comic or story seems natural.
Also, it's not super common but not unheard of in other fandoms too. I've seen some FF7 comics doing something similar, and animations or comics for Pokemon playthroughs/nuzlockes too.

>>58356851
For pokemon playthroughs, I mean mainline pokemon barely has a story. Basing your own story off the game isn't that bizarre. PMD has characters and a plot though. Like, unique things happen in it. If you try to use those as the baseline for your story, it's just gonna come off as a cheap knockoff.

Also FF7? Really? Of all games?

you may not know this, but Clover Guild was actually built on top of an ancient riolu burial ground

>>58354694
I did not care for gates to infinity

Super is great thl

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It's a shame that the artist nuked half of their gallery and bitches about reposts so now some of their stuff is hard to find or just lost.

Also tumblr's design is fucking horrible.

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Speaking of humans, since last thread's interviews confirmed that at least in Explorers era they are still around in the PMD world I wonder what the relations between them and the Pokemon are like.
Do they live together in peace? Or are the humans fighting to survive without pokeballs in a world with magical animals who shoot lazer beams?
If the guild managed to locate a human settlement, would they want to try having a peek/visit?

>>58357991
I still subscribe to

>MANKIND IS DEAD
>BLOOD IS FUEL
>DUNGEON IS FULL

But supposing they did exist, I imagine it would be a small remote settlement, and possibly magically protected a la Hidden Land, with a legendary/mythical watching over it. No pokemon, just humans living a pastoral life.

>If the guild managed to locate a human settlement, would they want to try having a peek/visit?

This is exactly why it should be inaccessible.

>>58357991
There are no human settlements, they live in the wilderness like Bigfoot.
Every now and then you hear rumours of a "true human" sighting going around.

>>58357991
The humans live underground, obviously. Who do you think restocks all those dungeons?

>>58357991
>confirmed
If it’s confined to an interview and never mentioned in the games, then it’s just a concept and not officially canon.
Besides, I prefer the PMD world being exclusively inhabited by Pokemon with zero humans at all.

>>58358034
That’s the only way I can see it happening. Very remote and secretive, potentially with extra barriers to remain hidden. I mean, they’re a complete myth in the PMD world. No Pokemon claim to have interacted with humans or even seen them before. So even if they did exist, they must be extremely hard to find.

>>58357991
Capim town IS a human settlement

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>>58345977
D4Y
888
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>>58358683
Insane dedication

>>58358683
I-IS THAT A TENTACRUEL?

SAVE ME MEOWTH MAN!

Is good. Is that Lovecraft in the corner, lmao.

>>58321595
Something ULTRAKILL-themed. Y'know, like >>58358034

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The Clover Guild's Linoone and Ikarus form a delivery team as they adventure to a frigid, faraway island where they learn what it means to be a badgermon. I hope you enjoy the short story: Badgering Around!

>https://rentry.org/CG-Badgering

>>58354694
What would it feel like to turn into a Pokémon

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>>58358138
>If it’s confined to an interview and never mentioned in the games, then it’s just a concept and not officially canon.
But it is canon in Explorers and Rescue Team that the humans came from those worlds

>>58358683
Maybe the three strangers are actual serial killers

What if...

>You wake up on the beach
>You've been turned into a pokemon, yadda yadda
>You meet your partner, you form a team, we all know how this part goes
>You go on an exploration
>It goes wrong
>You really weren't ready for that level of danger
>You die
>You wake up on the beach
>You meet your partner. He does not recognize you. He asks you to form a team.
>This happens every time.

>>58360934
he's got a bionicle arm for his gauntlet.

>>58361182
You were initially saying that humans are “still around” in PMD. Explorers and RT don’t prove that at all. Explorers just has a single human living in the future, and RT has ancient human ruins suggesting some humans used to be here in the past. Nothing about humans actively living there in the present day.
Now you changed your argument to say humans come from the PMD world, but that also isn’t proven anywhere. For all we know, the future and past humans mentioned in Explorers and RT could have originated in the human world and then gotten isekai’d just like the heroes in the other games.

>>58362213
Pretty sure Anamnesis included a story exactly like that

>>58362656
That's true. Anamnesis version is more of existential horror, though, I was thinking closer to Groundhog Day or maybe In Stars and Time.

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>>58362621
NTA but going through the scripts of the games:
RT
>protag came from "another world", which is explicitly stated by Gardevoir as something separate. Protagonist "returns to his own world" before eventually settling on staying
>friend areas imply long-gone human settlements
>the anomaly in this game isn't from the protag himself, but instead Gengar. The Ninetales legend has him encounter and get cursed by Ninetales, with Gardevoir taking his place, but in order for that encounter to happen, all three need to be in the same world. Gardevoir refers to Gengar as her "Trainer", implying he's a Pokemon Trainer, but the framing doesn't make it explicit if he's like the ones from mainline or if it's a catch-all term for humans with Pokemon allies. Likewise, Ninetales' curse lasts for a thousand years, and Gengar was "reborn" as one, so this could have taken place while humans were still alive or more commonplace in the PMDverse before the current abandoned settlement we see during the game's storyline
Explorers
>Protagonist, explained by Grovyle, comes from the Bad Future timeline and already has a pre-established backstory with him as a team working together to investigate the Planet's Paralysis
>unlike the RT protagonist who disappears by (almost) returning home since he was summoned to the PMD world, Explorers protag has to disappear to save the world due to originating from the Bad Future, a fate shared with Grovyle, Dusknoir and Celebi. No NPCs contradict this fact either or imply the protag was anything but a human from the bad future or that the protag was "isekai'd" in the same vein as the RT one.
It can be implied humans existed in the PMD universe with what the games tell us about Gengar and the Explorers protagonist, but we can't gauge how many or if there's a clear society in the present due to the ambiguity of the narrative presented.

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>>58362767
Guess all the mainline protags are isekai heroes too

>>58362776
>the world inhabited only by pokemon
>the world of pokemon
subtle difference there friend

>>58362776
I'm not talking about the narration addressing you, I'm talking about "world inhabited only by Pokemon".

>>58362767
Now what does the original Japanese script say?

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>>58362801
>>58362822
I see. I don't want to be that guy, but I misremembered that because it seems like a case of localization change, in the original Japanese script, the prompt there says
>ここは ポケモンたちの せかいへ つうじる いりぐちだ!
Which simply translates to "This is the World of Pokemon's Entrance!". The mention of it being exclusively a world where only Pokemon exist is a localization thing, for sure. Nob did a decent enough job translating some aspects, but I feel like there's a lot of jank in the English version of PMD in general ("It's always beneficial")

>>58360305
>Ikarus: the flame alchemist
nice

>>58362837
Well, dammit. I guess that can be tossed out then. It still doesn't look like there's any indication of humans currently living in the PMD world. RT, Gates, and Super protags all come from another world (and in case of Gates, YOU, the person playing the game, is the protag).

>Gengar
Gengar's story has holes no matter what. The curse being a 1000 years doesn't actually matter because he's not cursed, Gardevoir took on the curse. There's a few options there.
1) He, Gardevoir, and Ninetales are all from regular pokemon world, and he was reborn as a Gengar in the pokemon world. But that doesn't explain how Ninetales got there, I'm pretty sure they say it's the same Ninetales.
2) He and Gardevoir are from regular pokemon world and Ninetales is from the MD pokemon world. This would require Gengar and Gardevour to somehow get the Ninetales before he's cursed, which doesn't make sense.
3) It's the same world and all three of them are from a long time ago
So Ninetales has been around since human times? Just chilling in a cave? This is still probably the most fitting explanation, but it also doesn't mean there are living humans in the PMD universe.
4) Ninetales is also a reincarnation, not literally the same pokemon
Then they could all be from the regular pokemon world, or they could all be from the past.

Maybe the Japanese version of the legend could clear something up.

>Explorers protag
We know they're from dark future but there's very little information about them, and when multiple time travellers as well as portals are involved, they might easily come from another time or another world entirely. They disappear when the dark future is averted, which could imply that they've born after the present-time events of Explorers take place, or it could imply that they just didn't get summoned from wherever they live. Can you even be born when the time is frozen? Who are Grovyle's parents?

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>>58363050
JP RT doesn't really offer any new information that contradicts the English release, for the most part, so it's likely 3 from your list to avoid narrative inconsistencies. It is stated though that Ninetales has 神通力 (jintsuuriki, divine powers) rather than simply "psychic powers" which imply more of a supernatural element to the story, but that's mostly irrelevant.
On Explorers, I'd assume the three main time travelers all come from the same world if the rule of PMD's time travel doesn't normally run on multiverse. It's implied that when the past is rewritten, the future before that change ceases to exist, with rare exceptions (Protag being a lone exception in main story, with Dialga being the one to do so, also causing the "space time distortions" Luminous Spring and later both fake and real Cresselia mention, and Arceus being implied to save the entire bad future world, only after almost fading away). If we go by the rule that rewriting timelines means that the old one ceases to exist, then they can only come from that one bad future timeline. It's also worth noting despite the planet being paralyzed, the "time travel" between present and bad future seem to function on consistent time points, since the chronology of the protag, partner and Grovyle being trapped and returning has them being missing during that period of time in the present, with Bidoof/Sunflora's diaries making explicit mention of their absence.
>Can you even be born when the time is frozen?
This one seems odd, but I chalk that up to inconsistent writing. When the Time Gears are stolen and the flow of time is stopped, characters like Mesprit mention that if you're caught in the paralysis, you're also frozen to time, so Pokemon even existing in the bad future becomes an anomaly.

Back on the human topic, I personally think based on the info presented in the games, that they existed at one point, but almost all traces of them barring the Explorers protag become almost nonexistent after RT.

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>>58363050
I subscribe to the theory that PMD world is an offshoot pocket-dimension sort of derivation from the regular world with humans and pokemon. It's probably protected in some manner that doesn't allow human access normally, but only when they are "called" and transformed from their human bodies.

When time and space shat the bed in Explorers future it might have lifted that prohibition hence why the protag could traverse into the world in human self.

If you're gonna ask about modern places like RT power plant friend area... uhhhh... In Gates' introduction Quagsire was talking about Mystery Dungeons "spreading". Maybe areas from the normal world get projected in a mysterious way like the dungeons do? I don't know.

But when it comes to Gengar and Explorers I felt like this gave an accurate picture.

>>58363256
I think another point in favor of humans not existing in the PMD world is the fact that you are summoned in the first place. If there were humans around, why would the summoner need to grab a human from another world?

Another Ninetales option I could think of is that perhaps it can travel between the regular universe and PMD universe. This is completely headcanon, though, there's nothing that would imply that.

>that they existed at one point
I think it's undeniable that they existed at some point

>barring the Explorers protag
This one is a sticking point, though. Unless he's immortal, you can't just have one human being around for so long. You need at least around a 1000 humans realistically, but let's say it's a children's game and they don't think about human genetics, it should still be at least a small village of humans, otherwise who are MC's parents, grandparents, etc?

That's why I think it makes more sense for him to be summoned into the future world. He could be partners with Grovyle in the same way RT's MC is partners with their partner. Alternatively, he's a time traveler from the past where humans existed, that wouldn't require a multiverse. Theoretically, he doesn't need to stop existing to disappear from the present, he just needs to not get summoned or not time travel in the new timeline.

Or perhaps he's also from the past and he was on ice somewhere for 10000 years until Grovyle/Celebi found him.

>>58363329
If it was pocket dimension, why would the pokemon here know about humans at all?

>>58363352
I believe it's passed down knowledge from the remainders of the human civilisation when the split happened.

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>>58349334
dDaaa4yyyy
NiNe

>>58363368
That's just "PMD world is mainline games world in the future" with extra steps.

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>>58363347
I think the case of the Explorers protagonist becomes pretty muddied when it comes to how much of an anomaly it is compared to the other protags and instances of humans existing or the concept of disappearing happens. I do think the evidence stated in the game (protag disappearing due to the changed future is something implied, with Dialga using his powers to bring the player back, with no contradiction on his end is something that's specifically the odd one out vs. all other protags being summoned and explicitly mentioned as such in the game's narrative and not just menus) imply some form of always existing in the future.
If you want to give the gameplay personality quiz menuing credence as something more than just a gameplay element, then that also creates an oddity where the protag is "summoned" into the future rather than the present, with Grovyle being the partner instead of the one you selected. In general, the case with Explorers protag is really strange.
>let's say it's a children's game and they don't think about human genetics, it should still be at least a small village of humans, otherwise who are MC's parents, grandparents, etc?
I'd just assume the lack of other humans in the story element happens due to that aspect not being relevant to the future storyline (in general, the future's "lore" is largely left unknown, with things like the "Planet's Investigation Team" getting namedropped in SE5 as a thing that gives off big worldbuilding implications, only to never be elaborated on again), so it's not really unheard of to just have points that aren't explained too well. We could probably nitpick "Eastern Forest" and the implied volcano Time Gear although this one can easily be handwaved as Partner's hearsay and Darkness('s title screen) being noncanon among other things too. It's honestly a case where fans care a lot more about the nitty gritty than what the writers originally had in mind.

>>58363516
This is a bit of a tangent but does the Japanese version of RT give any indication about whether Ninetales is a male or female? I know that in English it just gets referred as "they" but people usually seem to have the idea that it was a female, I wasn't sure if they were getting it from somewhere.

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>>58363699
Ninetales is a confusing case, I'd say. He refers to himself as わたし (watashi), a gender neutral term (usually in PMD's context when "watashi" is specified as a feminine format, they typically use katakana ワタシ, like with Jumpluff and female partner for characters that show up in the story, or in the case of plot unimportant recruits, reserve わたし for female-exclusive personalities with generic unisex recruits never using pronouns at all). I personally am more inclined to believe he's male due to his speech patterns being a bit harsher (like the use of "omae" and generally talking more like a man-- it's hard to fully explain) compared to the female cast.
On a similar note, you know who IS female? Persian. She refers to herself using アタシ (atashi, almost exclusively used by girls) and has her speech patterns be more feminine, like the use of -wa interjections in certain phrases. This aspect of her character was kept in Super Mystery Dungeon too.

>>58363820
based moon rune reader

>>58363820
Persian is interesting, I didn't know that. It makes me curious to look more into subtleties like that.

About Ninetales being harsh, I thought that was normal for the character, being depicted as a vengeful and prideful kitsune, asserting dominance through speech. Although if the text is being consistent about switching between hiragana and katakana in regard to gender, I guess that would lean towards Ninetales being a male as you said.

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>>58363900
When it comes to the use of swapped kana "watashi", most of the plot females, Super's implied female recruits, Kecleon, Chatot and oddly, Dugtrio use the katakana format. In Chatot and Kecleon's case, even though they are male, I think the use case here is to imply a bit of a flamboyance or fake polite tone, since their dialogue also has them end their sentences with music notes to imply they're raising the pitch of the end of their sentences. For Dugtrio, the usage seems to be emphasized since he refers to himself as ワタシたち (watashitachi, we) to bring focus to the fact that he is multiple beings, since katakana can also be used for emphasis. It's not 100% consistent across the board, but usually for girls that use the hiragana format or for males that use the katakana format, there tend to be pretty clear-cut tells in those exception cases that these characters are meant to be one or the other. To put it simply:
>ワタシ
Used for emphasis, implied feminine or flamboyant tone most of the time. For characters where it's harder to determine the gender based on other speech cues and personality, this tends to be used to bring focus to the fact that they're female (or flamboyant). Dugtrio is an exception case to emphasize "we" in a literal sense, since he is a group of people.
>わたし
Not used for emphasis. Usually used for polite/formal speech males/unisex, females where other aspects immediately confirm their gender (Lopunny from Team Charm, for example), and generic recruit female personalities since generic recruit unisex don't use pronouns and males use non-watashi pronouns.

>>58364020
Good to know. Thanks for the insight anon. If I'm not mistaken kitsune myths that involve/revolve around a human usually tend to have them as females, which could explain why people assume as such in the context of the game's legend as well.

>>58362621
>You were initially saying that humans are “still around” in PMD. Explorers and RT don’t prove that at all
Bro, I am not the nigga you were replying to. I'm saying it's canon because it's in the first two games. You can argue they might come from a different time, but it is undoubtedly the same world. Considering there's no mention of some mass human extinction, I'd say it's more likely that they exist somewhere and the games just never showed it. Then Gates released and retconned all that because fans didn't care for it, and Super doubled down

>>58363329
This doesn't explains how Super's world is separate from the mainline; though that could boiled down to somewhat similar to the Digital World. Hell, it could be said that Arceus came from said world and created the world of humans, and Pokémon freely transverse between the two worlds. Hell, all of the bits and pieces of the human world leaks over to the Pokémon world.

One translated interview gave this thread something new to talk about. Thanks to whoever posted that

>>58361182
True, but as >>58364200 stated, GTI reconned it to be similar to that of the Dreamworld of BW/B2W; though Super tried to fix it with Mew and a Human being the first saviors of that world.

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Super's plot threads honestly bring more questions than they do answers. They have two loredumps, one dumped before the climax of the game (Ch20) and one at the ending, but neither do a good job explaining anything
>protagonist is summoned to the past to partner with Mew to stop DM
>after defeating DM the first time, according to Celebi and later the partner, the protagonist duo is sent to the future (player being "summoned from the human world" a second time, and Mew reincarnating as the partner) to fully stop DM, but willingly lost their memories of the past to forget their mistakes and avoid making "the same mistakes", even though remembering should do the exact opposite
>the protagonist's former human status is important for opening the sealed spring, but nothing about this is ever elaborated and is only used as a red herring. He is completely irrelevant to the rest of the story
>the partner disappears not because "some of Dark Matter came from Mew's negative emotions" and when it disappeared because the partner accepted it, that means he has to too, for some reason?
>completely ignoring that DM is composed of everyone's negativity so by that same logic, everyone should be gone, or that alternatively DM shouldn't disappear if only the partner accepted it
What a mess. Then again, this is the same game that uses half its runtime to set up a cast only to ditch them all for "Sorry I ate all the food haha," so expecting any sort of quality was a mistake.

>>58364577
>Then again, this is the same game that uses half its runtime to set up a cast only to ditch them all for "Sorry I ate all the food haha,"
I am genuinely still mad about this, and I honestly don't think I can trust Chunsoft with another PMD game. Sky, for all the praise it gets, is not a very high bar, but Super's plot is a fucking mess. It feels like two story drafts were slammed together with very little cohesion.

>>58354694
>(DOWN) PMD Catalog (read Branches.txt for MEGA navigation): https://mega.nz/folder/gi5k2DBL#wVscYMtiXMuAeWDvKYyfmw
>(DOWN) Pokemon Mystery Dungeon ROMs and Emulators Catalog: https://mega.nz/folder/ciVjBRoD#5vICIpkn16o-i1co11yFFg
>(DOWN) PMD Fangames Catalog: https://mega.nz/folder/Yyk3gQaI#NNSyFhuoa2Cg5HuL2oEyTg
when will this be fixed

>>58365944
the person in charge of them is erratic at best
no one really knows

>>58365944
They really should be taken out of the OP at this point. Needless clutter

>>58363384
>>58363486
He's 102% Sawsbuck. With a 2% margin of error.

How many Clover Guild stories are there have this point? More than 100? It can be hard to tell which ones are even relevant, and which ones are better skipped. Right now it's done by asking in the thread for recommendations, but I do kind of wish there was some sort of ranking, or determination for what stories are most important plot wise, or which are highest quality.
I have genuinely no idea how this might even be accomplished, so instead of lingering on that, may I simply ask what are your top 5 Clover Guild stories?

>>58366471
Booker's stuff is usually a pretty good beginning spot I feel like

>>58366471
Booker and Toge write pretty well, and they've also featured a good number of guild members in their stories. They are very good starting points

Hacks are also pretty good. They crammed an insane amount of in there, so if any of the characters interest you there, you can find their stories on the reentry. First Team Misfits hack was pretty good, but TWUT has the best story in my opinion, and TVSE is just overall very polished

I'm also personally fond of Team Cozy. They're pretty chill, short, low stakes stories

>>58366471
Personally I think if you approach clover guild stuff looking for what's relevant, you miss the point. Though there are big events that tie several participants together, ultimately everyone is telling their own stories within the shared space. To that end, what is or isn't "worthwhile" will depend entirely on your taste. Also if you're specifically after the big shared events, simply go to the rentry and click on "Collaborative Writing Projects".

>>58364577
>>completely ignoring that DM is composed of everyone's negativity so by that same logic, everyone should be gone, or that alternatively DM shouldn't disappear if only the partner accepted it
I think it was originally born to house the negativity emitted from all life. Therefore, the mistake is that they seal Dark Matter, as opposed to end its misery by killing it.

>>58364577
>but willingly lost their memories of the past to forget their mistakes and avoid making "the same mistakes", even though remembering should do the exact opposite
Hold up, the main character didn't lose their memories as a part of the transfer. Their memories were erased by Beheeyem by an accident.

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>>58368435
Super's ending reveals this to not be the case. It was a twist for the sake of being a twist, because Super loves doing subversions even if it makes the writing far shittier.
>Partner: Hero, it wasn't the Beheeyem that made you lose all of your memories. It was me. I...or Mew...erased your memories. It was what you agreed to...before you came to this world.
>Hero: (I agreed... to having my memories erased?)
>Partner: We'd made all those plans, like sealing the Luminous Water and all that... But I realized...if we just depended on what we already knew...we'd just repeat the same mistakes. We couldn't win like that.

>>58368610
That seems like a contradiction, because Nuzleaf says you started fighting against them first, and only got tricked by them after your memory got erased.

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>>58368435
You see, this is true, but it is also true that the protag planned to lose his memory. Therefore, him and Mew had the foresight to see that the beheeyem would become followers of Dark Matter. Rather than using this esoteric information to figure out a method to handle them, they decided to use the beheeyem for their genius plan of forgetting their plan and having no clue what either of them were supposed to do, leading to them fucking around with a society of drywall munchers until Dark Matter already caused mass chaos and nearly destroyed the world

God Super is so shit.

>>58368676
I like to assume this means that the protag's plans on having his memory erased was procure on site. So the second he was dropped back in the field, his first task would've been tracking down a psychic type or bashing his head against something solid until some more neurons were fried

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>>58368610
>we'll repeat the same mistakes if we know what our mistakes were

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>>58359901

be sure to use this post for request in this thread!
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>>58368676
I forget the details of Super’s plot
Did the hero already have his memory erased, and he started fighting them because he was either startled or they attacked him first? And then he got memory wiped a second time during the fight? If that’s true, that means there’s no contradiction. Or is it stated that the hero actually still had his memory when he met them, and he fought them because he could tell they were controlled by DM?

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>>58369293
He still had his memories, according to Nuzleaf's recount in the Ch20 loredump.
>The only reason Hero ain't had no memory all this time...is because that Beheeyem right there went and erased it all. Hero... You still knew who you were when you first came along to this here world. Before you lost your memories, you even tried battling me and my pals here. While we were all fighting, though...you got hit with a dose of ol' Beheeyem's psychic power... and plumb forgot who you were. And so that's when we hatched our little plan. That's when we decided to trick Hero.
It contradicts what the partner says in the ending since he says the Beheeyem didn't do it, and that the protag duo willingly lost their memories. You can potentially headcanon a workaround by having his willing memory loss kick in during his fight with the Beheeyem, but that still doesn't change just how awfully written it all is.

>>58369258
The guild discovers a new Mystery Dungeon called "Appalachian"

>>58369258
We as YOU and ME are cracking cindaquill

Or another: SIlvally does not have his own type energy and must replenish it by any means necessary

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Why does the PMD community dickride Super so hard? Like yeah, Explorers is always the top dog, but there's a weird amount of Super fans out there. It's like the Dark Souls 2 of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon where it's awful in every way but everyone loves it for some reason

>>58369510
The first half of Super is really good. It's just the second half where everything good is removed and the plot goes to shit. Plus it still has a lot of really emotional moments.

>>58369526
The first half isn't even that good. It has good moments but a lot of it is spent fucking around in school doing nothing and filling out the connection orb.
>it still has a lot of really emotional moments
Fuck off, that is entirely subjective. For me, all of the "emotional" moments were either too low stakes and unimportant to care about, ruined by a stupid joke, or stuffed full of plot twists, plot holes, and shitty writing

>>58369584
>The first half isn't even that good. It has good moments but a lot of it is spent fucking around in school doing nothing and filling out the connection orb.
That's just, like, your opinion, man. I really liked that part because it actually makes you feel like you're living in a pokemon world.

>>58369510
>giant red herring front and center with "THEY UNDERSTOOD THE ASSIGNMENT" under it
yeah they clearly fuckin didn't considering it was a complete waste of time.

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>>58369584
>ruined by a stupid joke
Dude... Swirlix ate all the food... We are so hungry... haha... You mean your scarves transformed you guys into super forms to fend off Entei? Woah... we'll talk about it later because we're hungry... Dude FOOD lmao Swirlix ate all the food haha!! Munch munch!! The player was actually a human??? Sorry! Too busy eating dinner!! We are SO hungry haha! Rubba dub dub thanks for the grub!

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>>58369621
mindbroken by SUPERIOR japanese humor

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>>58369584
>The first half isn't even that good. It has good moments but a lot of it is spent fucking around in school doing nothing and filling out the connection orb.
I think the first half is hampered by the fact that it's clearly written as an introductory arc, so a lot of time is spent being low stakes establishing the cast and getting to know them and their little mini-arcs. Befriending the other classmates reminded me a bit of how Gates takes a long time to get the ball rolling since it was also busy introducing its own cast. Which would be fine, but the real issue is that the second half throws away all everything set up in the first half in favor of >>58369621 so you're stuck with what amounts to filler.

>>58369258
Sneasel accidentaly squashed Booker (and live other guild members reactions to that)

>>58369584
>The first half isn't even that good.
>Fuck off, that is entirely subjective.
ironic

>>58369258
>There's a sickness spreading around Capim Town!
They learn that Gabite scales are the cure, and Sierra has plenty to share.

>>58369510
>Why does the PMD community dickride Super so hard?
I see plenty of criticism for it

>>58369927
Not ironic. Not much happens in it, and as many have pointed out, it all gets thrown out the window in the second half. It's almost interesting, but given how little happens in it, not much can really be said about it besides "it gave me cozy pmd vibes." You're welcome to like it, but it is not good. Blame the game devs for switching their plans on a dime

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>>58370372
Yeah, I never liked how Serene Village and (almost) its entire cast are ditched in the second half of the game. There's even a painful bait-and-switch when you return to the village, only to get immediately called away to a dungeon before you can walk around or talk to any villagers. Random connection here, but it reminds me of Ace Combat 7, which also had a problem with the plot changing direction and characters being forgotten about.

On the topic of Super, I might as well stop procrastinating and share another update on my replay.

>>58331004
I got through the Voidlands recently. Pretty crazy part of the game. Cool aesthetics and music, but it's also pretty messed up. I mean, it's bad enough that you get petrified, but then your soul gets trapped in a terrifying hell dimension where you're chased by monsters that impersonate your loved ones and consume you? Dark Matter, you scary.

All the talk about hope in this part felt like a forced attempt at including a central theme in the plot. Gates did it better.

The lore that Dark Matter becomes active because of the alignment of celestial bodies feels unnecessary, considering it also becomes active when Pokemon feel too many negative emotions. One of those would be fine, but having both feels odd.

It was funny how the game temporarily gives you an army of teammates for a couple dungeons, and it was cool to fight alongside the Legendary Beasts... but I still don't get why they acted so mean and claimed they’d sacrifice the hero and partner. In reality, they were planning to sacrifice themselves and save the hero/partner, so how do they benefit from making the duo hate and distrust them? No point in lying and antagonizing them like that. It was just a cheap way to add some drama, I guess.

At least Entrusted Hope is an awesome song (and suspiciously similar to PWT Finals from BW2, which is also an awesome song).

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>>58371159
But wait, there's more!

I liked the scene where the partner nearly breaks down and refuses to enter Serene because she's terrified of seeing her dad turned to stone (well, I didn't like seeing her sad, but it was a well-written scene). Similarly, walking around Lively with the sad music and the petrified NPCs was an effective way to show the stakes.

The Beeheeyem subplot was a little sloppy. He provided no proof of his trustworthiness, so I initially didn't trust him. But then the game began constantly drilling it into my head that he would betray me, so it ironically became hard to believe that, since that would be too obvious. Espurr being a double agent was a more interesting twist, but the concept was introduced suddenly and barely explored, so it didn't have much impact. But at least Ampharos got a sick burn on Nuzleaf.

Continuing on... Random Celebi was a weird addition. I wonder how many Celebi there are, because there are at least two now. Road to Primeval Forest is a cool song, and the Tree of Life has a great motif. It was nice to see the scarves in action again, but it was dumb how the Tree protected the heroes while allowing the friendly Beeheeyem to get petrified. How rude.

I remembered the sequence where the Tree flies into space and the heroes try to reach it. It was almost as stupidly hilarious as I remember--only slightly less goofy since my partner is a Froakie this time, so the insane jumping abilities make more sense now. But I have absolutely no clue how my Turtwig hero was able to catch up with her.

I also don't get why the Tree controls the rotation of the planet, nor why the planet gets pulled into the sun when it stops spinning on its axis. That's not how physics works. Maybe the idea is that Dark Matter is controlling the planet and moving it toward the sun manually?

Anyway, time for the final dungeon. The first part of it has one of my favorite songs in all of PMD, so I'm looking forward to that.

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>>58371224
>I also don't get why the Tree controls the rotation of the planet, nor why the planet gets pulled into the sun when it stops spinning on its axis. That's not how physics works. Maybe the idea is that Dark Matter is controlling the planet and moving it toward the sun manually?
This might be me pulling shit out of FF7's ass, but It may imply that the Tree is the regulator of the Planet's life force; if its dies the planet dies, and its corpse will drifted to the largest celestial object, the sun. So basically Dark Matter, being the commination of all Negativity emitted the lifeforms of that planet, is trying to kill itself by killing the planet so that it can lead to the only thing that it thought to kill it. Remember, the greatest goal of despair is Suicide

>>58365944
>>58365990
If they’re totally dead, I agree we should remove them until they’re fixed

>>58371159
I forgot how fucking stupid these things looked. They really just put some spheres together, tossed some eyes on them, and called it a day. Just have them be a real pokemon species, there are plenty to choose from that would fit the purpose. You could also have more variety than this goofy looking blob

>>58369258
Someone trips and falls into Kiyo's tails
They end up trapped in a never ending, frozen backrooms pocket dimension

>>58354694
Kyurem should've been the final boss, rather than bittercold

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>>58361198
Day 11

>>58375637
Your art is fantastic, but it breaks my heart

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>>58375637
Can't believe Kiyo boned Toge

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>>58375637
somebody has to stop these menaces already!

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>>58371224
>the sequence where the Tree flies into space and the heroes try to reach it. It was almost as stupidly hilarious as I remember

For me it was even more ridiculous because it is straight up a ripoff of this scene from the Final Fantasy VII Advent Children movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRoC_SF7YgE

>>58369258
Crunch the Lycanroc howls at the moon.
He becomes a reverse-werewolf

>>58377445
>dungeonitis

>>58377684
A werehuman?

>10

>>58369469
may i inquire more on the context of the Appalachian part i am not to familiar with it

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Reminder that Super and DX are objectively the best game in the series!

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>>58369469
ignore my other post >>58380762 i found a way

Day 12

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How did the Keckleons monopolize the item market?

>>58383513
They’re strong enough to just kill their competitors

>page 10
Hope this thread survives the leaks and new game

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>>58385725
Hopefully it will. Personally I'm not too interested in the game since Wooper's not in it/they locked shit behind online paywalls.
If my main man ain't there, I ain't buying.

I wonder how many people in this thread even have a switch 2. A new PMD would get me to buy one.

>>58381941
>Mothman in the background
>Not that mothman, the better one
Holee

>>58386622
The only reason i got a switch in the first place was RTDX. There's certainly zero reason to get a switch 2 currently unless a bad mario kart game is your thing.

>>58387563
these designs look really off wtf

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>Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon: Go For It! Novice Investigation Team!
Never heard of it before. Did anyone read it? Is it any good?

>>58379118
extremelly murderable

>>58388269
Please do not harm the cute otter

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>>58388162
>A Great Exploration at CoroCoro Touge!!!! (Rolling Pass)
It's probably an inconsequential one-off, considering the naming convention is tied to CoroCoro Comic and the dungeon they're exploring is a Wonder Mail exclusive one too. A lot of shonen-oriented games tend to collab with CoroCoro with elements from the tie-ins showing up in the games proper, I know Inazuma Eleven and Yo-Kai Watch do this too.

>>58388632
But I genuinely hate the otter, even more those awful Ocs

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>>58388162
You can read it translated here:
https://mangadex.org/title/1a63f658-f075-4783-8a0a-474e6360e6db

The comic is whatever and doesn't really expand on anything from the game.
The only somewhat notable thing about it is that at the end it gives you the password for the dungeon they explore.

I do like seeing these old magazine ads though.

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>>58388800
>>58389106
It's a shame they don't do manga adaptations that go in-depth anymore. During Gen 4 they had the usual Pokespe, another Sinnoh manga in the form of Diamond and Pearl Adventure, and for PMD Hono's Exploration Team, but nowadays you'd be lucky if you got anything that didn't amount to filler.

>>58389166
wtf is that a mega feraligatr

>>58389185
No because then Chimchar would be pissing in it

>>58386622
>>58386753
Same here. I sold my switch a few months after finishing the game, and I'm probably not gonna buy a Switch 2 unless ZA ends up being a 10/10 masterpiece that somehow manages to unite /vp/ and end war in the middle east

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>>58389003
You're a monster, Oshawott is great

>>58389106
Dude that riolu is 50% leg

>>58389467
it will be a 6.5/10 at most and you know it anon

>>58389998
yeah but it'll still sell 30 million copies and get great reviews somehow

>>58390016
pokemon games are immune to flopping (unless theyre spinoffs like pmd or rangers)

>>58390084
We're just bitter that TPC left Spike Chunsoft for Niantic

>>58389487
>great
great disappointment, yes

>>58390084
Because pokemon doesn't make money selling games.
>Moichandaising! Moichandaising! Where the real money is made!

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The Oshawott talk just reminds me of how he's depicted in JP art as a comical ugly bastard since his ears look like balding hair tufts

>>58390084
>pokemon games are immune to flopping (unless theyre spinoffs like pmd
RTDX sold almost 2 million copies, which is pretty impressive for a remake (for comparison, for remakes it outsold Xenoblade, Luigi's Mansion 2, and Metroid Prime, and even outsold new games like Xenoblade 3), so it's not a flop at all. Even without the huge Pokemon bonus, Shiren 6 sold a decent amount for a niche game with 300k thanks to the Japanese following the Mystery Dungeon genre has. I wouldn't put it past SC to make another down the line considering all that.

>>58391134
2 million copies is very impressive, yes. In comparison to other pokemon games, however, it is a drop in the water. TPC doesn't care unless it's a smash hit these days

>>58391213
I still wouldn't be so defeatist, Pokopia just got announced and that game's being made by Koei Tecmo, who also worked on DQ Builders. Those games sold less than RTDX and also comparative mainline DQ games. If big sales is the logic, then they wouldn't have even bothered making that to begin with.
There's also that disaster of a game Detective Pikachu 2

>>58391266
We call that DEFECTIVE pikachu, dumbass
because it is a defect in the franchise

>>58391266
Koei Tecmo is a more established studio with a lot of successful franchises and an established relationship with Nintendo through Fire Emblem. Spike Chunsoft currently has Shiren which is extremely niche and Danganronpa which is also extremely niche. Their biggest claim to fame is PMD which, for reasons that continue to elude me, has no appeal to modern pokemon fans outside of retrospectives and famous streamers saying "guys, this was my favorite thing growing up. I loved it so much".

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>>58391134
My boy deserves better than this...

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>>58391458
>has no appeal to modern pokemon fans outside of retrospectives and famous streamers saying "guys, this was my favorite thing growing up. I loved it so much".
There's still a bit of an indie-sized appeal Japan-side, at least, thanks to the Mystery Dungeon genre niche having a following over there. Just two hours ago someone uploaded a video about Female Feraligatr having a stupidly low recruit rate if you answered No to the "Have you played TD?" quiz question due to an oversight so new things keep getting discovered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__FP8tGcCHs
But yeah, I usually don't see much discussion about the franchise in English besides story retrospectives and nostalgia, that is true.

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>>58391494

>>58391728
Is there any benefit if you answer “no” to that question? I think answering “yes” boosts recruitment rates for some Pokemon.

>>58392054
"No" lowers your chances of getting questions weighted towards Sky-exclusive startermons, and that's pretty much it.

>>58390877
PMD merchandising could be insane if it had more popularity with normies
>take any plushie design from the past 10 years
>throw a scarf on it with a guild decal and re-release it
would sell like hotcakes

>>58391458
Danganronpa isn't that niche. It's extremely popular with lonely middle schoolers. 8 million sales overall for the series is not too bad. (~18 mil for PMD tho)
If the numbers a quick Google search gives are real, the first 2 PMDs did about 5-6 mil each, and then each subsequent title did less than 2 mil. The later games probably had higher budgets too. I can see why they'd have cold feet to make another, but I also can't help but feel they lost their sales numbers on those later entries to the 3DS selling like half what the DS sold. Then, the Switch sold DS numbers, but they made a remake instead of a new game. (The GBA version of which is now on NSO anyways)
Could just be cope from me wanting to believe a new game could be successful, but that's my theory.

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>>58369258
Rain planted one of tropius' bananas
It grew another tropius

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>>58369509
dayyyyyy13

>>58391134
i meant that no matter what they do mainline pokemon games CANT flop, but if they want to they can make spinoffs flop, not that all spinoffs flopped

>>58396868
Consent is his biggest turn on, and he is clearly not turned on here

Did a new PMD game get revealed in the teraleak or is there fucking nothing? (Yes i know it’s chunsoft and not Gamefreak that make the games but please let me hope ;-;)

>>58398336
As far as I know nothing MD related at all showed up.

>>58398425
Thanks for the reply, I really hope that someday they’ll make a new game.

>>58399201
These are the scariest items in PMD

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>>58399216
We need more of these 3d animations

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I hate leak season.

>>58400206
I hate forcefully shilling this thread to keep it alive but I also don't want it to die

>>58397440
This would've been a better ending to Super than the one we got

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>>58397440
>summer vacation
Bitch you dropped out of school to work for a bumbling idiot

>>58402495
She's so cool

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>>58403533
He's a very talented, well trained, and highly professional leader of the Expedition Society

>>58403928
because she is ice type right? cool, heh.

Does anyone have an image of a Pokemon (I think it was a Marowak) cheerily dragging a Pupitar along by a rope? I can't remember if this is the thread I originally saw it in or not but it seems likely that it was and MD image.

>>58405503
Minecraft block

>>58405503
That's a very solid mattress they got themselves. Where'd they find it?

>>58406984
Very solid mattress store

>>58405503
>Realizes he left the oven on before getting isakei'd
rookie mistake

>>58404932
Doesn’t ring a bell

>>58409584
>piplup
>flying
thats just dumb

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>>58410186
bet you feel stupid now, huh?

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>>58369880
day


14

>>58411260
Holy shit is that Team Charm?

>>58411260
I really like chespin's face lmao
why is your name getting so spooky?????

>>58411260
this is so peak for so many reasons, but my favorite is Elms expression

>>58411260
meanwhile cyndaquil be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpKc8N3FJsQ

>>58412349
Kek

>>58411260
Is the name thing connected to the rentry link?

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Vote for a background for the next drawingboard!

https://strawpoll.com/eJnvV5VlWnv

Reminder:
image size doesn't matter, it will be upscaled with AI
right click, open image in new tab to see it bigger
you have 3 votes, but plz only use them all if you are very undecided. Try to choose your single favourite!

>>58413610
>please choose at least three options

FUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

ok I guess chose three

worst case, we do another vote with the top three

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>>58411387
Are you talking about the Charmander? Her name is Charm but her team name is Oracle.
I liked them. Too bad the anon hasn't been around for a long time.

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>>58414025
I am retarded and got their name mixed up with the actual Team Charm

>>58414025
Surely they'll come back, right? They were only supposed to go out to get milk.

>>58401265
I like seeing old clover guild art being posted again

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I haven't made anything new in a while since I've been busy obsessively playing cobblemon and I feel bad about it.
On that note, it's been officially one year since I put out my magnum opus, the Team Petal-Purr Summer Festival AMV.

https://cloverguild.com/booru/post/2310

I was a content creating machine back then...

>>58369258
"ASGORE runs over Dess in a truck" but with guildmons

>>58411260
did he died?

>>58416831
I still watch that video. It's so good.

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>>58370131
DaY 11111151111115


>>58413599
WDYM nothing is wrong with my name ? :>

>>58418762
>Macom gets his wool sheared
>everybody finds out what truly lies beneath the wool

>>58418762
Damn, the stairs snatched him

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Are Chansey eggs fair game in pmdland?

>>58421589
If Chansey gives you one, yeah

>>58416831
You put your characters on artfight? I considered doing it for my OCs but was turned away by all the cringe on the site. How have you been feeling about it?

>>58424086
Natives KNEEL to superior humon combat strategies.

>>58418762
>"CIDER DID YOU PUT THAT HAY INTO TEAM COZY'S BEDROOM?!"
>Toge said calmly

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>>58423452
I wouldn't say I actually participated in artfight, I just put the characters up with a blurb that basically said "they are a PMD team and are nice girls."
I literally ignored everything until the last day. There was like 100k characters on there so it's literally impossible to sift through the trash of it all.
I only drew one thing, something for the person that drew that picture. I got 3 pictures unprompted, including this kino drawing of Shelby drawn by a literal child. I cherish it.

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Thoughts on this comic?

>>58425144
That's the one where the Raboot is actually a Mew and adopted by Mewtwo right? I had found the side fluff comics cute but I haven't read the main one yet. The Riolu fatigue is real and it makes me throw those at the least priority part of my reading list, but if it doesn't devolve into another gay BS I might give it a shot in the future.

>>58425144
It has potential to be pretty good if the author leans more into making an interesting story, doing a deeper exploration of the characters and their dynamic, and not having the riolu be untouchable.

At the moment it's firmly headed into "here's my cool edgy mary sue OC number one that can beat anyone, and he's the best flirt in the world when he's not being cool and mysterious, here's my cool non-edgy mary sue OC number two that has secret mythical powers and a cool dad, I'm shipping them (or will in the future, I guess, we didn't get there yet in the actual comic)" territory.

It's not the worst comic out there, but it reads heavily like a self-insert wish fulfillment.

>>58426804
Are the wannabe shonen power trips not the most entertaining to read though? Watching some autist pour his passion into something that is 6/10 at best but full of love

Bonk

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>>58372859
day 6+10
more cynda torture this halloween :]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

>>58429983
It's things like this that inspire me to write, so there can be more stories out there that don't have pointless 2edgy4u garbage.

>>58429983
Is there a Clover Guild member stronger than Rampardos?

And I'm referring to Special Episode 0/Seven Symphonies Rampardos with Sheer Force and Mold Breaker (with immunity to previously-experienced move effects) equipped with his Head Smash and control of an army of Sableye, a complete murder fetish, with creepypasta zoom-ins implemented into the cutscenes so he can fight his way out of Hell and kill off every single side character as well as having space left for dessert.

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>>58430501
Depends. How messy is the storeroom today?

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>>58430501
SE0 Rampardos is pretty strong.
But is there a pokémon that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Drifblim? Let alone defeat him? And I’m not talking about Aftermath Drifblim. I’m not talking item holding Drifblim either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Ominous Wind Drifblim. I'm not even talking about Drifblim at max stats. I'm talking about PMD Drifblim with the Minimize buffs and Unburden (with no held item and being capable of both Gust and Shadow Ball), at quadruple speed from Unburden Ominous Wind, equipped with his Breeze Scarf, a Draft Ring, control of the IQ Skills and Quick Striker for a quad hitting normal attack, with stat drinks and Life Seeds implanted in him so he has 999 HP and 255 in all stats and can perform Ominous Wind spam while being an expert in shrinking and evading attacks, while also having an immunity to Electric and Ghost attacks from the Sky and Nether Globes, and also being permanently at double speed due to the Sky Gem, and having every beneficial swap item in the Treasure Bag for a grand stat total of 275 Attack, 269 Defense, 295 Special Attack, and 281 Special Defense, after using Ominous Wind enough to hit +10 to Attack, Defense, Special Attack, and Special Defense.

>>58427535
Sure. There's audience that enjoys OP self-inserts, and there's audience that enjoys OP self-inserts as comedy. I'm just saying it could have been good without those caveats, but it probably won't be.

I do have respect for people who make what they enjoy without giving a fuck about what others think, though.

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>>58430028
these sorts of things make me want to not even bother

nobody cares about quality
nobody cares about passion
nobody cares about heart

they just care if something they can identify from pre-existing media is in the story

jjk music i heckin love anime best hack ever
grovyle and dusknoir i fap to that best hack ever

look guys look it's my greatest achievement wario land 4 for the gba type shit. gorging on member berries in all the worst ways because they can't even member how to fucking write these characters.

sped 0 and 6 7 shit phonies has no purpose behind it, no meaning, no nothing. literally ESL anime schizobabble that exists to take up space. but it has grovyle and dusknoir in it and it has a long playtime so i guess it's literally the best hack ever made

these people will never wake up and see the light. and the people who have already seen it don't need convincing

what is even the point of trying to do better if nobody REALLY cares, if something we pour our soul into can't influence the way people act or think.

extremely demotivating. what a waste of time it's all been. what a waste of time it's been for the actually talented romhackers. i hope these faggots rot with the shitty culture they've developed for themselves. enjoy bubsy mystery dungeon you fucking triple faggots

>>58431344
Getting blackpilled over retards being retards isn't going to help anything.

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Congratulations on completing the 57th drawing board!!!

VERY spooky board so I have to spoiler it... This one is very sketchy, lots of cute characters. I love the insane sencha and toge one in the corner.

Amazing job everyone!

and now, after the vote we are onto a background drawingboard!! Join in!

https://magma.com/d/thxyThqmKR
https://magma.com/d/thxyThqmKR
https://magma.com/d/thxyThqmKR

mobile: https://magma.com/d/Nk55diUjiV

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>>58432225
Wrong links, sorry. use the ones below

Drawingboard: https://magma.com/d/vE8xMGVGRh

mobile: https://magma.com/d/VKX3y9Ud61

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>>58431922
sorry let me just smilefag through it all and pretend i dont have any negative feelings about this shit my bad bro

>>58432643
Finally!! I feel the same way. Its either I shit up the thread for the millionth time or I have to smilefag my way through existence, those are the only two options I have

>>58432643
Everybody knows people in Skytemple are drooling retards that'd make even the shittiest countries in Africa look like scholars, but that doesn't mean we should give up writing or trying to make hacks that are good.
If any of them are reading this thread, stop rehashing EoS you uncreative tards.

>/pmdg/: bittercold edition
>anons losing hope
kino

>>58432643
I mean seriously though, these people can't be convinced. You say you make art, stories, and hacks because you "enjoy making them" and "because you want to make something good." If that's actually true, why do their opinions matter so much to you? It sounds more like you make hacks to try and educate and enlighten d*scord trannies and youtube shills when you post this shit

>>58431344
Look up Sturgeon's Law; it has always been there when it comes to fiction in general.
Yes, most of the works are shit, but it didn't stop others, nor should it stop you from making quality work that stands the test of time.
The silver lining is that the good stuff are the ones who tend to stick out. Yes, there is still crap that leaks out through the cracks, but it'd be much less when compared to shaking a full bag and picking one at random. Also, filter what you're consuming. The number of anons who willingly endure slop they knew was slop is surprising to me. If you're having a content drought, ask for the recommendation of others you trust whose taste. And if you happened to consume something bad anyway, make it a learning experience by not repeating their flaws in your own work.
There is enough good content out there, but if you focus on the bad ones and blackpill yourself, you won't be enjoying any medium.

>>58429231
KINOOOOO

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>>58433951
>the good stuff are the ones who tend to stick out

Safety bump

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Oh boy, they're self aware!
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>>58437115
she just like me fr

>>58431344
>these sorts of things make me want to not even bother
>nobody cares about quality
>nobody cares about passion
>nobody cares about heart

Post Town's #1 resident

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>>58437293
"Smile, faggot"
-Gigachad Gates Partner

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>>58377684
today's number day i guess

>>58437377
jesus christ how horrifying

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I’ve yet to read any Petal Purr stories yet, but I can’t get this cute idiot’s stupid grin out of my head.
I’d like to draw more random guild members I know nothing about so fire away if you want

>>58437670
>stupid grin
In that case I'll be selfish and request one of Pirth.

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>>58437837
Now they’re teethbros

>>58437670
How about a Toge?

>>58438161
You got Pirth's smile perfectly and the two look great together, thank you!
Are there any stories you've not yet read? I'd be happy to recommend some characters from those.

>>58437377
Crunch would be so confused by all this

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>>58438747
A Toge!

>>58438897
I’ve only so far read the federation arc and Percival’s chapter of the festival. So there’s a vast number of members I’ve not met yet! I’d be chill with drawing mons I do know too though!
Side note, I love Percival. He’s so retarded in the best way. He gave me the giggles.

>>58439987
Well you're definitely right doing the big collabs; it's what Clover's all about, after all. It's great since you can get so many different styles of storytelling all in one shared universe, but I would say that once you finish the summer festival you can always go back and check out Booker and Toge's stories which are a great place to start (especially with the Gathering!). They're sorta interlinked so checking out the homepages (I think Booker has a recommended reading order) is an option.

As for other mons to draw, since there's no other request queued I'll suggest a mon from one of my favorite authors (who I wish was still around): Noodle the Floragato!

>>58439824
What is the context to this image?

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>>58441732
It's from the Spirit-like hack called PMD: Dummies on an adventure. It was made by a retarded ESL. The hack seems like a shit post but the faggot creator expects you to take it seriously for some reason.

They spend about 20% of the time on crying about the guild tax and another 20% on team skull being mean. I can't possibly convey to you how retarded this hack is in words.

I haven't touched a game in this series since Blue Rescue Team first came out and I was thinking of picking up DX
Is there any reason not to

>>58442405
What's stopping you from playing the others?
Also DX has QoL stuff that might hurt your opinions of the games that don't have them.

>>58442405
Unless you ride or die for sprites vs models it's a perfectly serviceable remake, adds enough QoL changes that you can forgive it for being babby mode (not that these games are ever hard outside the bullshit)

>>58442585
Gates isn't a good choice to get back into the series with, Super has most of the same QoL and Explorers DX is right around the corner

>>58442619
>Explorers DX is right around the corner
Highly unlikely, and even if it was you'd still be better off emulating Sky with some QoL patches+custom starters.

>>58442405
If you want to revisit the gameplay, all I heard were positives when compared to the original. Go for it.

If for story, I'd top it off with Explorers after DX, and not look back for the others. There are better games, or hell, fanfiction, worth your time than playing those two.

>>58442723
rt has by far the weakest story in the series outside a single plot thread that doesn't get picked back up until the obtusely-accessed postgame story segment

>>58442723
Gates has a good story, it just takes a while to get going. The gameplay is not worth it though. Just watch a playthrough, honestly.
Super's story drops the ball 1/3rd of the way in. A complete waste of a plot.

>>58442798
But enough about Super

>>58442799
Gates has good side characters, but the story as a whole is poor. Super literally repeats the same premise, has a discount Wigglytuff's guild that wasn't fleshed enough, and the actual likeable characters gets dropped as you pointed out.
>>58442798
Personally, I found RT to be more consistent overall, even though it might not particularly excel in one way. But I agree to that plot thread not being done enough justice.

Explorers has the most overrated story in the series. It is carried solely by the characters who constantly make retard decisions and weird, inconsistent time travel rules

>The entire town decides that you and your partner need to die for a stupid reason
>5000 IQ Alakazam also decides that you need to die
>Actually he's going to let you run away first. He thinks you're a threat to the world and you need to be killed or else THE ENTIRE WORLD WILL BE DESTROYED but he lets you escape
>And THEN he chases you to the other side of the continent, all without losing your track somehow
>By PURE FUCKING HAPPENSTANCE, just as he catches up to you, you run into the only pokemon in existence that could prove your innocence
>Everyone goes back to normal and acts like they didn't try to murder you for incredibly flimsy reasons

RT's plot makes zero fucking sense if you think about it for more than five minutes. And of course, don't forget: nothing you do during the game actually matters for the ending. None of it. The only things that needed to be done to save the world is 1) Xatu seeing the meteorite coming and 2) Someone going to the Sky Tower to kick Rayquaza in the nuts and tell him to look up. 1 happens without your intervention and 2 could have been done by anyone. Even if it had to have been a human, the only reason for the rest of the game to exist is for your team to get levels. You could have been transported to the pokemon world and spent 6 months jerking off every day, then eaten 50 joy seeds and cleared the Sky Tower. The end result would be the same.

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>>58444258
It was your role anon, that is why only you could accomplish it.

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>>58440715
I have never drawn this Pokèmon before so this was fun
Will check out the reccomended reading order as well, thank you!

>>58444449
This might be quite a difficult request for you to draw and I apologise for it if it is, but could you perhaps find in yourself the strength to attempt drawing Adelaid?

>>58444258
>Entire town has been ravaged by an untold number of natural disasters
>An ancient legend said that a human will be reborn as a pokemon and the world will go out of balance
>Xatu, someone known by reputable rescue teams as being able to see the future, says that the player is human and that the unthinkable might happen soon
>Gets repeated to the town by a rescue team leader (Who does NOT have a criminal reputation by the way. Just a dick who steals rescue jobs)
>An experienced rescue team with a duty to protect people hears this news
>Knows that the player and partner aren't bad people, and has some doubt that Gengar's story is 100% accurate and not missing details
>Gives the player a chance to flee and try to prove their innocence
>Still has to hunt them down as part of his duty as a rescue team

>And they run into Ninetales at the perfect time because it's a fucking story and it's allowed to have unlikely events happen for narrative reasons

I still don't get why people think the fugitive arc is so badly written. It's literally only if you take everything characters tell you at face value and believe everyone is completely flat and don't have conflicting interests in a really tense, high stakes situation

>>58444942
I can buy the townies believing it.
I can not buy Zam simultaneously believing it enough to murder you but also not believing it enough that he lets you go for a day.
>Knows that the player and partner aren't bad people, and has some doubt that Gengar's story is 100% accurate and not missing details
You're giving it waaaaaay too much credit. If he had doubts about it he could, I don't know, look into it, investigate it, go ask Xatu, question Gengar some more, anything that would make sense. Nope, an ancient legend and the words of a local dickhead is all proof I need to off a fellow rescue team member, chop chop, get a move on. No doubts. I have 5000 IQ.

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>>58445096
Pokemon IQ is divided by 1000 anon
He's a retard

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Day age of consent
btw can someone take the communication orb call on the magma for me, the orb ringing is annoying....

>>58445096 (Me)
Here's how I'd fix it, by the way:
>The legend mentions where Ninetales is supposed to be
>When you hear about it and Gengar accuses you, some townies get mad and chase you away
>You hunker down in your house for a bit, then decide to go find the Ninetales
>You leave, and Zam's team shows up because they heard someone found the cause of natural disasters. They investigate and figure out where you're headed. They follow you.
>When they catch up, they just ask you questions instead of trying to murder you, and then you go and find Ninetales together

And if you still want the thrill of a chase, you can have the main characters BELIEVE that ACT is coming to kill them, or have them just be chased by townies (though some of them chasing you through multiple dungeons is still stupid), and then it turns out they're more reasonable than that, and you're being silly, partner, that'd be ridiculous. And then townies could be like "yeah sorry I got caught up in it when everyone started yelling about killing you, I don't know what came over me, I'd never do that" and have it be a comment on how people can get riled up in a crowd instead of "woopsie daisy turns out you're innocent, we'd still lynch you on a street if you weren't tho, but we can be friends again right?".

>>58446643
Oh no he's banana-on-head retarded...

page 10

>>58447005
I'm sorry, but this is boring as shit. You completely removed the stakes of the fugitive arc. You ruined it

There is more evidence that the legend is true than not. It's actually more retarded to believe it isn't. The natural disasters are going on around people, and Xatu said it. There's a time skip in the fugitive arc of the player and partner traveling around, so who's to say Alakazam didn't question Xatu already? Assuming they didn't just communicate with that psychic power that Xatu demonstrates later in the game. And again, it's not like Xatu knew much more about your situation

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