Stop. Do the Safety Dance!>Friend ID Survey: https://forms.gle/AZyQQ2SfGeCKjXNh9>Friend ID Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGhOfaMX6D_YUR-P39_OJdVmAl0uacohIRstE9oN9SQ/edit?usp=sharing>Tournament results/decklists: https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET>Deck Builder: https://my.limitlesstcg.com/builder>Datamines, etc.: https://ptcgp.raenonx.cc/en>Luck calculator: https://porygonthree.github.io/ptcgp-luck-calculator/>Advanced Card search: https://pocket.limitlesstcg.com/advanced>Deluxe Pack: ex card list: https://www.pokemon-zone.com/sets/a4b//vp/ battle passwords to battle with other Anons (consider writing a post to recruit players)>/vp/‘s own meta (no random effects, no ex): vpnx>meta decks or high level play: vpmeta>/vp/ anything: vp>Previous Thread:>>58358693
Also, someone please trade me that dumb birb. I wanna brew.
One day...
>need just 3 more pokemon to complete my diamond collection>look on apps like pokehub>literally nobody is trading themfugg :DDD
>>58371383PokeTrade has more users
>>58371383What mons do you need?
>>58371480i went and put up all my dupe 3-diamonds for trade and managed to get a hit for unown and used up my last staminathanks though i'll check that out tomorrow if i can't get one of the other two
I love to go ploooos in my total card sum
>>58371001Ima brew something. Anyone with the energy please hit me with a Yellow Oricorio and/or a Resilience Link Raichu please and ty
Should you always thank your opponent?
>>58371787i never thank my opponent unless they're running a meme deck. if you're rolling up to random match with something off the limitless top 10, you don't deserve a thanks.simple as.
Faggot Nigger Bitch Cunt Giratina
My silvally plus [insert pokemon name] deck will be unstoppable
Red card/Mars makes me not want to play
eggs is funeevee eggs is really fun
>>58371881Every time it hits me its an auto loss, the game is just too strict for it, you can't afford losing an evo for 2-3 turns
>>58371897>opening hand is decent, can see the lines of play>opponent is going first>they immediately mars/red card you>hand becomes completely unplayable>concede on the spotFun game
>>58371931Have you tried running 2 of each card?
>>58371947You can do that?
>40 promo packs in>still no pickachu ex promoOkay. Who's cock do i have to suck?
You know what, I'm hoping that when this pack is gone, they keep only the foil cards and shuffle everything else back into their original packs.
>>58372056You mean Raichu ex
>>58372123>You mean Raichu exI DONT GIVE A FUCK AT THIS STAGE
what is the best looking donphan ex card in your opinion?
>>58371931>>58371897>>58371881>use it on opponent>they get the exact cards needed to complete their combos anyway
>>58371001Oricorio? I got one. Whaddya got? Also post FC
>>58372295The FC is my name. I'm looking for the birdie and the Arceus effect Raichu. What are you after?
Would you support Greninja ping being 10 damage instead of 20
>>58372394nerf to only hit active pokemon like crobat and typhlosion
finally a 2 start from this shit set
>>58372394Do yhe same to Darkrai & you've got yourself a deal
>>58372333Sent. I don't have the Raichu, but I have the bird. I'm looking for Secluded Springs Celebi.
>>58372394what if we introduced a poketool that reflected all indirect damage
I dont even wanna grind ultra ball tier this timewhy make us play the same meta for months on end lol
>>58372495I’m f2pDid hit my first god pack this set tho.
>>58372694It would just replace Mars/Red Card with Guzma in all decks.
>>58372808Guzma should already be in every deck
>>58372904But not always as 2 copies.
Anyone got a GA Jolteon to trade
I just completed the oldd collect 5 Nihilego mission while pulling the ex pack so the other collection missions should work with it too for that one anon who was asking about Gimighoul the other day
I got the Alcremie icon sooner than expected. Having it and Gholdengo, I feel lost. I'll build up my stamina and help my friend list with small trades I guess
>>58373083There are no Gimmighoul in this pack
>>58373085if you need an autistic tradegoal, consider trading to fill out the deluxe setfor the average non-whale that's going to take at least 100 trades if not more
>>583729408192681872403735send anything idc which card its an alt account
>>58373571Cheers lad, sent
might as well use the legendary dogs as draw meatshields in other decks if solgaleo's going to do it
>>58372808I see no problem with this
>>58373507I've been considering that very goal. The issue I see is the expense of ex trades. I don't see a point in spending tons of dust trading for cards I technically already have. If I'm able to get most ex cards from my pulls, then I'll move forward with this goal. Do you think the foil cards will have a trade cost? I am missing 9 ex cards that would complete playsets, most notably stokezard. I can't draw poliwrath from this set, so I will hope I get another copy of those 8 and maybe trade for them next month if I don't. I want to be able to get into 2 star trading immediately and will need the dust to do it
>can't trade in excess copies for store points to get cards I want
>>58373599You might as well just use magby's and crimson storm charizard at this point
>>58373699i plan to do that myself and don't forsee ex trades being much of an issue. i have 200k dust stored up and around another 50k incoming from opening deluxe set packs since they give so much dust. napkin math says i'll be missing 20-25 ex cards from the set, which is 100k-125k, but there's also the matter of the 720 refund for each because they're all dupes so it's actually less than that. more like 85-105k.finding people for all the foil trades is going to be a bigger issue, imo. especially the three-diamonds, since those only have a 20% chance to be foil and a lot of them are actually viable and thus in high demand from people who want to use them, not just collectors.and i'm guessing the foils will cost the same to trade as their regular variants, since they're treated as such by the collection UI.
>>58373699>2-star tradingthey will never do thisthe intended way for whales to get their 2-star chase cards is with pack points as the pityif you make 2-stars tradeable they can just trade one of their ten dupes of mallow or acerola for the new hot waifu card instead of spending hundreds of dollars on the new packit's just bad business
>>58373599it only really works for solgaleo because it can retreat them for free, no? you're super reliant on drawing into leaf here so ideally that would be at 2, and only one copy of the ralts line seems like a terrible idea since you instantly lose if you can't get gardevoir out before the dogs go down and mewtwo has to step up.
This game is so fucking dead.
>>58374206Care, haven't spent a penny on it.
>>58373964Shit, I didn't think about the three diamond foils. Those will be tough to get. Nor did I think about the dust you get back from trading. That will help with trading the ex cards. With nothing better to do until we can trade the upcoming set, I will try to fill out what I can from this one>>58374007>they will never do thisBut they've already promised it? Also, how did you know I'm looking to trade a Mallow and an Acerola?
>>58374524they said "we'll look into it" which is gachaspeak for "this will never happen, or if it does EOS is imminent"i'll eat my dick live on stream if they announce 2-star trading for the anniversary
>get the gold crown>not a single 2*...I'll take it, but I'm not satisfied.
I miss dialga, that card was viable for like 1 set lol. He was supposed to be this support for steel types but it doesn’t really work.
>>58374763you get free stuff too for just nabbing a single 2* card from the ex set
Rocky Helmet is so fucking broken, I could design a better card game than this
>AI puts Memory Light on its Oricoriooh this thing is dumber than a bag of rocks goddamn
>>58374802dialga was always just way too fucking slow. even in dialga/arceus, the absolute best deck the card ever had, you weren't actually getting arceus online any faster by ramping it and dialga was basically just a shitty meatshield that you could retreat for free after doing 30 chip damage.even if darkrai was never a thing, dialga/arceus would've still been completely obsoleted by giratina/arceus the very next set.
>removing long-time friends from my friends list because they're opening old packs and ever so slightly decreasing my chance of being able to WP a 2-star lusaminei'm sorry bros...
>>58375636dont remove me
will trade 4 milf
>>58375985Anyone want to mirror trade the 3-diamond Mew twice to get the badge mission completed? 9152361928360967
>>58376027would do this if i had any stamina left
>>58376066i'm not in a rush, if you have no other trades pending and wanna do it over the next two days, i'm cool with that
>>58376078well if you're fine waiting then feel free to add mei'll send the trade when i have stamina tomorrow9785326310709687
>>58376112added, just send whenever you have free stamina
Noob here, I recently built a deck and started playing like a week ago, got a question about rotations.I know you can include in your deck variants of certain cards and play them as long as they're called the same and do the same.If a card like this does the same as the current rotation's Professor Research but is from a rotation long gone (this one is D), can you still play them or you should play the ones in rotation G?
>>58376227you're looking for this thread >>58375633
Yes. You can use any Professor's Research, regardless of the regulation mark.But if you are referring to the old Professor Juniper from BW (or Sycamore from XY), then nyo.Also, >>58375633
>>58376513Oops... >>58376227
>>58376452Thanks anon
One day I will have an extremely good pull.One day...
>>58376227They're going to add this card, with the exact untouched wording of its effect, into the next set and it will have the same name so you can't use it together with Oak. They will do this after people have spent money on the new premium shining ballsack oak from this set. How do you react?
>>58376734Same. I have 7500+ cards and still haven't opened a God pack.One day...
oh well, can't win em all
>>58376898
>haven't opened the game all day>missed my second free draw yesterday>haven't bothered to complete the event's missions>have zero desire to even log in for my free packsBros... Is it over for me?
>>58377856Wait until the anniversary at least... maybe you can sell your account or something if you've been playing from the start.
I'm gonna break the game with the most cringe idea ever, just because I'm bored. Enjoy your nightmare!Eject Button - Trainer CardWhen your active Pokémon takes damage from your opponent's active Pokémon, and it is not Knocked Out, you may send this card from your hand to the discard pile. Your opponent's active Pokémon returns to their hand.
>>58377941don't caret. dragonite player
What's a good deck for the Raichu event?
>>58377941No eject button exist in the TCG at all. This is the closest to it
>>58378425rampardos, it's always rampardos
>>58378425I've been using Lucario with Sudowoodo.
>>58378425It just works.
>>58378425i just run donphan and it works
>>58377941If hand traps could single-handedly destroy a franchise as convoluted as YGO, it would annihilate TCGP just as easily.
>>58378425I just run 20 fighting Pokemon with Cliff Cruncher Dugtrio
Is the EXP received after level 50 stored somewhere or is it all going to the Shadow Realm?I still have the Eevee Groove and Secluded Springs solo battles to do but I don't want to waste those precious numbers...
>>58378425Just pack the deck with nothing but low cost fighting mon and Dugtrio. I haven't had auto lose a match with this, it's just so braindead. Every other turn at minimum you're getting a KO from just basic attacks and Raichu takes too long to set up.
>>58378844Feel free to change out Mankey line and someone else for Lucario if you want. I only have 1 normal Lucario and 1 full art so I didn't wanna run it so I could get the stupid ass "beat this deck using only common cards" requirement.
>>58378425its funny
sneed peek is back
>>58378998super excited to not see anything good in my wonder picks for a week
>>58379062not like you were seeing much of anything anyway
I hope we get a Mega Lopunny card very soon, the TCG got one in the latest Japanese set and it's almost making me want to buy physical cards again, that TCG powercreep is fucking insane tho
Rate my EX pack haul 60 packs in.>tfw no Gardevoir
Currently sandbagging a tranny eevee player, yeah he's going to sit there like a good little bitch and wait
>>58378432>>58378458>>58378470>>58378513>>58378595>>58378844>>58378873Thank you friends.
damn there's really just suicune/greniggers at +1700pts what the fuck
Imagine drawing through your entire brain dead meta slave nigger deck and losing to a single bird
>Game freezes as I'm dragging an energy and attaches to a random benched monbased
thank you wonder pick event
>>58378425I use Donphan, but the enemy folds even if you run Tyrogue 18T.
>>58379378stop smoking so much weed and you won't misplay, you fucking dipshit
Wait a minute I just noticed that EX pack has a deadline and ends at the end of october or something...what happens if I don't get the Lillie card from it before it leaves?
>>58379772sounds like you should open more packs :)
Truly I am blessed
>>58376898I wouldn't care. I'm a KANTOOOOOOfag born and bred. I would betray Samuel Oak for this slag.
>>58379978*Would never
>>58379772Its a limited pack which means it wont be available to pull till it reappear at the next celebration whether its Half Anni or the next 2 year Anni.
>>58380373I think next time we're gonna get a new pack with reruns of B series cards instead.
What's even the point of opening the EX pack? Two EX a day is nice but I have all of them already, and so will everyone else by the end of this so no one will be willing to trade old EX for the 4D of the next packs. Even as trade fodder they won't be worth shit.Why should I keep opening until I get my fifth Lugia EX when I could be collecting pack points to pity a rainbow card from an old pack?Everyone is still opening so surely I'm missing something.
>>58380790I want the 2 Star Pikachu...
>>58380790I've never bought anything with pack points, so that never really factors into my consideration
Got the PLANETA Mew ex and a shiny Mew Ex, and now I want to show off.What's a good deck for it? I don't expect it to perform well under the current meta, but I'd be happy with something that gives me a fighting chance.
>i have 12 machamps
>>58380790
https://youtu.be/gNN3EhxKvMY?list=LL
>>58380790You can get these rainbows anytime. The EX pack metal designs will be gone soon.
gib cursola brew
>>58380901Nothing good, Arceus ex is better in every conceivable way. If you had to use it I would use it in an electric deck and just ignore its 1 energy attack. Use electric's energy generation to use the 3 energy move and budding explorer to get out after landing a quick attack or you can just retreat and swap energy to a new mon since it only has a retreat cost of 1 (its only benefit over arceus)
>>58380790i'm of the opposite opinion. what's the point of opening old packs right now? those cards will always be there, i can pull packs for 2* iono whenever i want.but the deluxe packs are limited, this is my only chance to get the cards. the odds of pulling 2* oak are very low, but i did already pull 2* lusamine so i'm extremely happy i didn't just keep pulling SR.
>>58379729what
And when 9 months ago I said that they will introduce limited-time packs for FOMO buyers, because this game is a gacha, you all laughed and said that it will never happen.Who's laughing now?
>>58382869In b4>i-it doesn't count, b-because...!
Still waiting for Dena to PUNISH the godpack abusers from GA and MI
>>58382907Because it says its coming backBecause once a new set comes out you can trade all the commons and ex’s you’re missing if you care enough to, since you don’t actually get anything special for re collecting cards you already have, there’s no reason to spend money on it, and only oinkers suffer.
>>58382933>Because it says its coming backThat's how gacha rateups work. You drop a banner for a short time, then it's gone for a year or longer, and when it comes back even more people want to roll on it, because they heard from others how good/cute the character is.
The Deluxe Pack is "coming back" but next time it will be only set B cards, not set A.
Deluxe Pack helped me get the ex cards I didn't get from the other packs (looking for Lillie had one hell of an opportunity cost), so I'm happy with it.
>>58382869i don't care what they do for fomo fags because i don't impulse buy shitthere are people who will never complete this set despite dropping hundreds and i will complete it f2p
So megas next set. Will that include new megas like skarmory/froslass/drampa etc?
>>58384179i would assume they're going to put in new megascan't wait for some ugly retarded shit like mega victreebel to somehow be meta
>>58384256Could this be how dragons become viable? Mega dragonite? Mega Drampa?
>>58384428Imagine Mega Drampa dominating the meta as a colorless card. Would be funny.
>>58384507Colorless Megas will have Illima as a supporter so there's potential to be broken by default if they don't balance around that.
>>58384587So long it's attack isn't like four energy or more. Else it will sit on the corner with Rayquaza, Snorlax and Blissey.
Alright, boys. I sorted the megas into their most likely types. Mark off which ones you think are gonna be in and which ones definitely aren't.
>>58384719Now include the new ones.
>>58384755if you've got pictures of 'em, sure
>>58383100The Deluxe Pack is "coming back" but next time it will include set B cards in addition to the current ones.
>Have two immersive Arceus So is the Arceus baby deck any good for a retard to play?
>>58384786Check a place called /vp/. They’re all over there
What a funneh froge
>>58385027no fake leaks, moron.Would it be best to not talk about Z-A megas until the official release?Guess not, you sure like to gossip like hags about this right now.
>>58384862it's not very complexall the decision making happens at the deck building screen, like how many babies you bring, how many copies of komala you bring, do you bring snorlax or not, etc
>>58385113Heh>fake
>>58385126>snorlaxwait what I thought it was Arceus, darkrai, komala and some baby pokemon. Do you use Snorlax instead of komala?
>>58385893snorlax ex, to be specificwhen you're running 10+ basics, having arceus as your only nuke is pretty inconsistent so some people (myself included) opt to run some snorlax ex copies to basically be a shitty arceusthere's a lot of variance to the deck list, it's easily the most flexible deck the game has ever hadarceus, darkrai, and two energy babies are mandatory, but then you can add copies of the third energy baby, tyrogue, komala, snorlax ex, etci like komala myself but some people use tyrogue to kill funnybird since it doesn't require any energy investmenteven pokeball is optional because it's not much help when over half your deck is basics anyway, can be better to have room for trainersanyway just look up a deck list online and experiment if it doesn't feel right for you
>>58384719I dont think basic megas are coming this early.First one most likely is going to be a shitty Mega Fug promo
>missing a bunch of 3 diamond cards in several sets>half a month of pack points just for oneAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I had 2 tries. I didn't get Mewtwo.
>>58386379that's what trading is for anon-kun
>>58385113This is nonsensical ESL gibbering.
>put Lillie stuff from the pass in my showcase.>Suddenly get loads of Friend requestsSo this is the power of Lillie.
>>58387398Same. I must have gotten at least 10 friend requests from level 50 guys. All I did was put up Lillie with FA Nebby.
Does anyone have a spare Skull Fossil? I need a good Fighting team for solo missions.
>>58387398>>58387560It is almost as if the most recently released display items are the only ones featured in community showcases, where randoms can add you from without having your friend code
round up darktina players and rape them with hammers.
>collecting feels bad>battling feels badidk bros what’s the appeal?
>>58389385gacha addiction with daily free rolls, that's it
>>58389385Occassionally seeing something in random battles.
>>58388337Never had that happen with the previous paypiggy showcases though.
Pulling a pack for the chance at a 2* card is fucking miserable
>>58390415its crazy they're more rare than 3*
that's a beauty
>>58392124that charmander looks weird
>>58392173It's getting stuffed.
It's nice when Sneak Peek coincides with Wonder Pick EventFree wonder hourglasses
>about to go to bed>check WPfeels good manthanks, random mexican dude on my friends list
>stay up until 3 am for no reason>open game out of sheer boredom>I am free from the pack point grind now
>got double FA Greninja and Gardevoir from WPNow I'm literally only pulling this ex pack for the 2* supporter cards
Nigger devs, nigger game, nigger community. Rigged match making against cheating ai pulling out cards no one seen in 2 months
i don't think i like the new 2 star cards very much. i think they look worse than the planeta cards from the other packs.
>>58371789how do you feel about solgaleo/shiinotic
>>58372056it took me 40 packs to get a single raichu, then i immediately got 4 more right after
>>58378425silvally/zeraora or rampardos or scizor
>2* Palkia in WP yesterday>no sneak peek>miss it>another one in WP today>still no sneak peek>actually get it this timeCool, but not getting it twice for the 2* cards and getting it for the bonus pick is fucking bullshit.
>>58389385it's the only game i can play to connect with my autistic son
>>58393591i missed a bunch of 2 star cards about 5 times in a row and almost quit the game
>>58393591>>58393607It's one in five chance, anons. One in four after a sneak peekGetting it in your second attempt is pretty lucky either way
>>58393306This happened to me yesterday, I was thinking to myself "ok as long as he doesn't have a Giovanni, I won, good thing no one runs that shit anymore" and low and behold he played a Giovanni that turn
>>58393607>>58393617The only saving grace of sorts is that these 2* don't look great for the most part. If I had missed a supporter card instead I'd be mad.
>ash, pick one and only one
>>58393714Misty. Always.
>>58393553i have to wonder why they're not running solgaleo/johto beastseither they really just like shiinotic or they're slow on the uptakeregardless that's a thanks from me
>>58393553>>58394831If you face oricorio it's a default loss if you have only ex DMG dealersBut I don't care and I run solgaleo and Sylveon ex for extra draw
>>58394996that deck runs magearna for bird though
So what really is the best deck right now? Suicune Greninja or Darkrai girstina Seems like every deck has a 50% winrate but the ones above slightly more however it all depends on the draw anyway. Nothing is opThoughts
>>58395011suicune greninja, and by a lotthe only reason it doesn't have a higher winrate is because its own popularity normalizes it towards 50/50 and it has a negative matchup into darktina (and this matchup is exaggerated because it doesn't take the recent oricorio developments into account)against virtually all other decks it has a favored to highly favored winrate
>>58395011do you prefer aids or cholera
>Turn 1 Red Card
Greninja fuckin op desu, nerf the ability to 10
>kill suicune>But Greninja is also heavyweight Rough
>>58395204greninja would be fine if it could only ping the activeit's the bench pinging into cyrus that really makes it bullshit since you can completely circumvent the other person's strategy
>>58393714>The illusion of choice
finally, a use for my third copy of this dumbass card
>>58395318>play stage 2 deck>lose games to draw variance>complain???that's the tradeoff for having giga fuckoff stats bro, you don't always get the cards you want
I've missed five 2* cards from the current set so far. On the other hand I got my second WP Rainbow Flareon. Too bad I have no special Eevees to go with them.
>>58395377it's such a shame that the beautiful full art collect eevee from EG immediately got powercrept by the find a friend eevee with no variants one set later.
>>58393674Nothing worse than having the board state pretty much locked in your favor and then your opponent plays the one card/combination of cards that just flips everything in their favor and wins them the game.
>>58395417>okay, i win as long as he doesn't have the second rare candy and the second stage 2>let me just mars him to 1 card to ensure that doesn't happen>it happens
>>58384719Bro you forgot Blaziken. But for the next set it'll probably have one of each for the solo battles so I'll guess>Fire: Blaziken>Water: Gyarados>Grass: Beedrill>Fighting: Lucario>Lightning: Ampharos>Psychic: Altaria>Metal: Mawile>Darkness: Absol>Colorless: Kangaskhan>Dragon: Garchomp
>>58395436i would be very surprised if the metal mega wasn't scizor, given its popularity and the conspicuous lack of a scizor ex in the two johto sets
>>58395436No way they don't do the Kanto starters as bait. It's going to be 3 boosters like Genepex so there's space.
Crazy that the devs thought 2 months of the same meta would be in anyway acceptable.
>>58395436I think you're bugging if you think they're not gonna shove two Mega Mewtwos down our throats.
So now that rare candy is a thing, what's stopping spoiler from coming back exactly?
>>58395999nobody wants to play the coinflip gamealso 130hp is within revenge kill range
>>58395999the fact that celebi flat out sucks even with serperior support.2 energy on celebi, doubled to 4 by serperior? still just 100 average damage, the same as silvally gets all by itself.3 energy, doubled to 6? 150 average damage, while dragonite does 180 for that much.4+ energy? the game is decided before you can reach this point, and even then stormzard does 200 for 4 and i'd rather have that guaranteed 200 than risk getting 2-3 heads and failing to KO.
>>58395999Unironically powercrept. Best Pokemon in the meta have way more health and can do more damage with way less setup.
>>58396046>Celebi EX is no longer oversaturated meta>No longer have to put shitvine in deck>Will exists for a little extra stabilityAt the very least I have enough slots to go for it at least for a day
>>58396084That's a very sick go-first setup if you get it. The dilemma is what is your answer for going second?
>>58395999celebi died when they released tsareena. why assemble serperior and use celebi ex to attack when you could use a non-ex that does the same 50 damage coinflip thing all by itself for just 1 energy?
>>58395906I think that would be the next 2 pack set. Perfect a X pack and Y pack then a Z pack for the mini set
>>58396146wrong reply?
>>58396180>Another stage 2 mon>Gets outclassed by Celebi for the cost of holding one more energy
>>58396199Getting Serperior on turn 3 with a god-hand is a fairly strong start, then you can run that coin cheat supporter if you're not feeling confident.
>>58395999130hp is a bad number, and celebi requires 2 energy to attack along with grass having no energy support.
>>58396216the only turns that matter are the first fourif you go first with celebi you lose immediately, if you go first with tsareena you can just win outright on turn three
>>58396216You forgot the part where Tsareena has the single best heal in the game, only gives 1 point when it dies, occupies less deck space than Celebi + Serp and all while having the same hp and dealing the same average as Celebi but 1 turn earlier, for less energy, independently and more consistently. By the time Celebi outpaces Tsareena it's getting killed or countered. Oh and Tsareena doesn't care about Oricorio.
>>58396238at absolute best, you can do 100 damage on turn 3 going first with celebi and the megafuck godhand of celebi/snivy/serperior/rarecandy, and even then you have only a 25% chance to do so unless you also draw will in which case it's 50% to do that 100 damagemeanwhile you can do 100 damage guaranteed on turn 3 with pichu/null/silvallyit's just not good anon
>You finished the National Dex, Ash! Now you get your prize. Go on, pick one, I won't judge
>>58396304also, tsareena not being vulnerable to red means there's a good amount of decks that simply can't oneshot it since guzma is becoming less and less popular and 160 damage in one turn without red is a tall ask. a deck like darkrai arceus will never be able to take down tsareena in one go since it caps out at 150 damage and doesn't run guzma, but it can kill celebi since it runs red.this is not to say that tsareena is good (it's not) but it certainly outclasses celebi.
>>58396424I'll take pink hair.
>>58396424can i get uhhhh ultra beast lusamine instead
>>58396610Sorry, Oak doesn't carry damaged goods.
>>58396284>the only turns that matter are the first four>you can just win outright on turn threeIt’s pretty fucked that this is just what the game is
>>58396671Anon, you have been able to win from turn 1 since the beginning with Misty-centered decks, they just made it a lot more straightforward now with Pokemon that can be oppressive with just two energy, or with babies pumping energy into ones that demand more.
>>58396671that's just what happens when you accelerate the game every setthere's only a handful of decks in the entire game where you can't tell if you're going to win or lose solely based on the opening hand you get
>>58396691Oh I’m under no impression the game wasn’t bullshit from the start. I just thought maybe it would evolve beyond that eventually.>>58396709This exactly. Not much to even play out when you can see who already has the commanding lead on turns 1-2.
>>58396752>I just thought maybe it would evolve beyond that eventually.You can't ever really decelerate the game. Not unless you take cards out of circulation, and even then it's a doomed effort.
>people are running double oricorio in all sorts of decks without any electric energy >you can get got by two dudes on the bench hitting you for 20 forever but if you build up your own bench get fucked how does anyone take ranked seriously again and why do these creatures infest unranked mode with their bullshit
>miss 2-stars Ho-Oh in wonder pick>get 2-star Mewtwo in a pack right after thisAlright I forgive you this time.
>>58396916Oricorio's immunity should've come with the condition that it has a lightning energy attached
>EX players