A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?>Thread question:If you were the one off character of the week in the anime, what kind of role would you take?>Previous thread:>>58439947
>>58488213>TQI would be a chill guy, taking in Ash and co to sleep in my cabin for the night. And then while they were asleep I would BETRAY them, capturing Pikachu and giving it to Team Rocket. Ash's female party member would be brainwashed by my Malamar to be my loyal servant while Ash and Brock/whatever guy would wake up in the middle of nowhere with their minds erased by my Malamar.Do not Isekai my ass.
>>58488213>If you were the one off character of the week in the anime, what kind of role would you take?Old or new anime? Because the old had shit like time-travelers, ghosts, crazy scientists, ninja, hunters, and such that sounds cool as hell, imagine being a time traveling ninja or a prince or princess.That's talking about the old one, I know nothing about Horizons CoTD
>>58488213Does the League offer protection to high-ranked trainers to prevent them from being molested and harrased?
>>58488224Here I come, Level 5 Pidgey. Do you have enough PP in stock?
>>58488294why would high rank trainers need protection? They got their Pokemon. If anything it's them people need protection from. What's to stop them from threatening you with their Pokemon once all of yours are KOd
Random question, but this isn't the only place where the SM/USUM female protag is called "Chicken-Chan," right? I swear it's relevant to what I'm writing.
>>58488330A gun, no Pokémon is faster than a bullet
>>58488343>it'sSpacebattles loves that name too
Psst. If you need quick and dirty inspiration on locations or technology for your fanfic, go to pkmncards.com's advanced search and look up the Stadium, Item and/or Tool cards from the TCG.https://pkmncards.com/advanced/
>>58488343Definitely not only here. Heard irl friends refer to her as that.
>>58488347A bullet only has a priority of +2 while Protect has a priority of +4 btw
>>58488403That's why you taunt them before shooting.
>>58488354>>58488375Thank you anons, just wanted to be sure.
>>58488428>leaving the house without smoking your Mental Herb first
>>58488343This is the only place I still see it frequently. Granted I don't browse many sites It was widespread upon her design reveal however
I really don't get why some want pokéhumans to be weak as fuck, like us, when they're for all intents and purposes fucking aliens in some alien planet, all the real world stuff was retconned and myths saying humans were the same as Pokémon in the distant past.There's also their diet which includes magical herbs and the world itself has magic energy in the air, sure, they don't need to be Saiyans or stronger than Pokémon but they should still be leaps and bounds above real life humans.
So now that the dust has settled.What do you think of ZA's addition to the story and lore of the Pokemon World?Anything you like?Anything you hate?What will you be using in your fanfics?What will you ignore for your fanfics even if you had a gun pointed at your head telling you to use it?
Every now and then I remember that moment in The New Normal where the MC kissed Karen unprompted and she didn't like it. The cringe still cuts into me like phantom pain.Genuinely insane to write that. I poke fun at pofag for his humiliation ritual but he's got nothing on the Karen incident.
>>58489164>where the MC kissed Karen unprompted and she didn't like itTell me more
>>58489164I long since dropped New Normal, but I remember how extremely cringe all the Karen stuff was.It's hilarious thinking on how Karen fumbled the MC though.What ever happened to her there afterwards?
>>58489220I don't remember the details, but the MC got excited over something he and Karen were working on and he impulsively decided to express his happiness by kissing her. The two of them hadn't gone that far yet in their relationship and Karen did not like it, even distancing herself from him afterwards.The whole fic's tone got really awkward after that as Karen did the whole "I'm not ready, blah blah blah, can we still be friends" thing. And maybe I'm misremembering, but the author really dragged this out for like a couple dozen or more chapters, really driving in the nail of how fucking awkward it all is.And keep in mind this is in what's essentially a power fantasy fic where the MC shocks and awes everyone with his isekaijin knowledge. So to include something so humiliating is nothing short of incredible.>>58489231Don't know, I've long since dropped it too. Last I remember was him fighting team maga or something.
>>58489148The anime solved this a long time ago by making humans tanky but offensively weak, so they can take Pokemon attacks and live but the chances of them defeating a Pokemon in combat is virtually zero. The only reasons people stray from this is to do dumb deathworld edgeslop or to turn their protagonists into Goku for some reason.
>>58489261>but offensively weakUntil they grab a stick, then they can beat Pokémon
>>58488213>orre is gradually civilizing itself>lumiose becomes an urban jungle where wild monsters are trusted not to rip you limb from limb
>>58489325Yet Orre is seen as the lawless land of boorish thugs...
>>58489163Like everything past Gen 7, I will completely ignore its existence and anyone who obnoxiously posts about how my depiction of something from Kalos doesn't line up with ZA is getting launched into the sun.
>>58489338Psst... Galar. Paldea.
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>>58489164Please don’t give me motivation to out-cringe that. If anyone can do it, it’s probably me.
>>58489338Can’t wait to see you style on GF’s “writers,” IMOanon with whatever’s to come.
>>58489325If you are in the Pokémon World and not training at least one Pokémon to defend your ass from being dismembered, cursed or mauled, you are just fucked. Pokémon are everywhere, in your walls, in your drain, and whether you're attacked or not depends entirely on that Pokémon's whim and temperment.
>>58489148Even then, humans were never built with 1v1 in mind. An MMA fighter would still consistently lose to a tiger or elephant. We're a persistence group hunting species, get a gathering of humans and they would curbstomp mostly everything nature has to throw.It's like that whole 100 humans vs a gorilla that people were discussing about on the interwebs earlier this year.
How do you feel about custom moves? Because I grimace every time I see them in BoC
>>58490754As long as the MC isn't the only one doing them I think they keep things interesting. But there needs to be a coherent basis for the custom move, a somewhat thought out cost/gain, and at least implied training from the MC's side. The last part is especially important because nothing turns me off a story's battles faster than the MC pulling a new technique out of their ass and executing it with ease. Why would I care about any of the battles if at any moment the MC can GoGoGadget UseTheIWinMove?
>>58490754>custom movesCool in theory>existing moves in cool waysBased, leaves no room for people to complain.In Crystal Light, Blastoise's only damagine moves are Hydro Cannon and Skull Bash. This would make you think that Blastoise is a slow powerhouse since it only can attack with two turn moves. And then you would be sent flying before you realized what happened when it uses Hydro Cannon towards you into a rocket powered Skull Bash.Honestly, comboing moves together has a lot of potential that I need to explore more.
>>58488294What exactly do you figure Cynthia's Garchomp would do to you if you bumrushed her during a meet and greet to squeeze her tits? There wouldn't be enough of you left for the event organizers to scoop off the ground.
>>58489881I can at the very least say that what I did with Lysandre isDifferent.
>>58490754It sort of depends, if they're creative enough to have a narrative purpose in learning them they can be pretty cool, but if they're just there for metagaming and trying to give hax powers to the MC I'm a little averse. I prefer just using existing moves creatively to achieve the effect you wanted.
What exactly do you have to do to a trainer before their Pokémon are legally allowed to kill you in self defense? Do you have to order an attack on their person with another Pokémon, come at them with a weapon, or is simply punching them or slapping them enough grounds for their overprotective Tyranitar to take a bite out of your skull?
>>58491538>GarchompWouldn't be fast enough, Cynthia outspeeds it and one shots you.
>>58491984If you were a normal human, you'd probably get your jaw broken by a slap from a pokehuman But pokehuman on pokehuman means it's just a slap
>>58491705Like all self defense laws they differ from region to region based on the culture because there is no objective correct answer. But I feel lax in most places, likely as a cultural understanding that everybody has a gun in their pocket and that gun can fire itself on its own whims. You don't smack a bitch very often in the world of pokemon because there is always a non-zero chance that they have a setient bomb in their pocket with bad self restraint.
>>58492035I don't mean because she's pokehuman. I mean because she is Cynthia. She could solo her whole team if she wantes.
>>58490754BoC at least pulls off the individual move well (usually) and the regularly used custom moves almost always have a lot of narrative build up. This past chapter where the bulbs/seeds on Sceptile’s back can heal its partner in a double battle I thought was clearly just forced in to extend the battle. Unless there was some sort of build up? There’s such a gap in updates with that story I’m forgetting the details as we go along. Also a mid-battle cliffhanger when there was a three month gap in actual chapters is making me about to drop it. Clear Patreon farming. You can have a Patreon and have cliffhangers, but the three month gap is what I take issue with *gets off soapbox*But as for custom moves themselves, it’s a mixed bag. Going too hard could be distancing oneself from the source material. I think the big difference maker for me is it depends on each individual Pokémon. Let’s take Gyarados for example. It’s a physical attacking Water Type. If when the physical/special split in gen 4 happened and there were no physical water type moves for Gyarados to use, I’m sure I’d have wanted to put a custom move in Gyarados’ kit. Let’s use Tyrantrum for example. It has Rock Head and Strong Jaw. It gets Head Smash, which is dope. But I’m not using a T-Rex to just head butt people, I want to have a devastating move involving the iconic part of it, its mouth. Sure it’s got Crunch and Fang moves (Psychic Fangs in SV is nice). But there’s no signature Rock or Dragon move involving its mouth? Okay then, I’m down for a custom move being developed. It’s core to the Pokémon’s identity.
>>58489163Anons here aren't ready to hear this, but ZA has a good story.
>>58492197I believe it, if it was bad people would be memeing it more.
>>58492432People aren't memeing the story because there barely is a story and the game has bigger issues with it. And Pokemon games are expected to have bad stories to the point where it's barely worth commenting on.
>>58492197A good story for a Pokemon game is such a low fucking bar so they better at least clear that. Haven't played, but I'll eventually check it out and give it a shot.
youtube.com/watch?v=1JtuxmEiYl4&feature=youtu.be
>>58492834>>58492834Nigga...https://youtu.be/1JtuxmEiYl4?si=f_xyw7hMvBBnbJmJ
>>58492834wish more fics were as cute as that short
>>58492911Sorry, the best I can do is edgeslop where every single Pokemon that's ever existed personally wants you dead.
>>58493328"Look at them! Look how cute the Pokémon are!... they hate you so much, you know that? Even the tiny Pokémon babies."
With the debates the recent short has caused, now is a good time to ask: how intelligent do you think Pokemon should be in fics? Fully sapient? Only as intelligent as real animals? If you think it's determined on a case by case basis, what's the limit on how smart a Pokemon can be?
>>58493832>what's the limit on how smart a Pokemon can be?not smarter than humans, except for rare cases like Kadabra or Metagross
>>58493832I tend to depict them as sapient, and generally intelligent, but most species behave instinctively out in the wild and only flex their intelligence around humans or interacting outside their standard habitat. Most humans can communicate with their Pokemon partners after spending time together, and understand what they're "saying", while there's at best a more pet-like level of communication with other Pokemon.
>>58493832Varying but much smarter compared to their animal counterparts, up to normal human intelligence, like Pawniards and Bisharps acting like wolf packs (which contrasts well with their humanoid appearance). Animals IRL lack the FOXP2 gene, which codes for language. Pokemon get the gist of what a trainer is saying but can't communicate to them directly. The funny answer is this:"[Pokemon] are actually really good philosophers and writers, they just think it's funny to pretend to be retardedThey've just realized that the highest form of artistic expression is [beating the shit out of each other while using their trainer-pet relationships to absolve themselves of all responsibilities]." I go with this one because the Pokémon in my setting are getting smarter and more anthropomorphized with each generation, PMD levels of intelligence and conflict from their perspective. The evolution of Tsareena was reportedly met with anger, bafflement, and bemused laughter from anthropologists in the field of Pokemon once they quickly figured out the "joke," as an example.
New PoPT for those who like to make sure their MC never gets anything nice for too long.https://archiveofourown.org/works/66210784/chapters/190349781
>>58493832On average all of them are capable of sapience but just like how a feral human is not as well-adjusted as ones raised in civilization a feral pokémon is significantly less socialized than one raised around or near humans.
Pokétoon just reminded me that the Pokémon world is too safe, no wonder crossovers don't exist
>>58494512but that's the greatest charm Pokemon world has
>>58492851Nice tracking link bozo.
>>58493832In Crystal Light and PokeNormal I write pokemon with anime Pikachu and Meowth levels of intelligence. Full human sentience, non-human perspective and priorities. They are capable of human language but they see pokemon language as so much more efficient and refined than human languages. Words just sound so blunt to pokemon that to wild ones it sounds like humans are just always talking in all caps without punctuation. 'Civilized' pokemon have just been around humans long enough to realize 'wait, these brutes are actually saying meaningful things and aren't just rambling wildly?' This is why pokemon only say their names, its the pokemon equivalent of a white person speaking english louder when talking to somebody foreign. Most see this as sufficient enough and assume humans are just kind of dumb for not understanding them better.
>>58494454God damnit I'm still trying to catch up.
>>58491538Nothing.I throw an ice cube at it and it instantly explodes into viscera and gore and will need to be brought back to a pokemon center to heal.
>>58494700Maybe, but for someone trying to write a story not so much, just look at how much GF struggles just to end up with a literal nothingburger in their plots.No wonder Pokémon fics dried off in general, there are no stakes or consequences compared to Digimon or even YGO, and GF is making sure it stays that way unless they do something crazy for Gen X
>>58495088I don't understand why don't fics follow the anime formula: Main characters meet the character of the week, resolve their conflict or from their Pokemon and move on
>>58495694Because that's boring and doesn't add anything to the story.
>>58495088I feel like Pokemon never meant to be a game series with big stakes before gen 3, more like a nostalgic journey based in childhood experiences with some mooks running around the place
>>58495764Any fics about being those mooks and being stomped by a snot-nosed brat? (CAPTCHA: DNA0SH DNA Ash???)
>>58495764Eh, GSC was a bit more serious than RGB what with Lance beating up grunts and nuking them to the face, I think things went down since the moment the plots were about saving the world instead of dealing with just the local gang/mafia
>>58495764Were there any complaints about SV story? From what I've seen from this general is that the only real complaint is how underwhelmingly weak the trainers in the region are and that's all. Which can be completely fixed by moving some numbers around.
>>58496071Time travel stories and AI as a final boss is a pretty cool idea tho, we do shit on the characters and the child of destiny bullshit they did in the DLC tho
>>58496177>child of destiny bullshit they did in the DLCQRD?
>>58496524Just Kieran fans throwing a melty that their hikki didn't get his turn as the hero and instead became a villain that got rightfully slapped down for his hubris
>>58496524Turns out that the world really moves around the PC and after knowing that Kieran got mindbroken so hard he went back to be a cuck that can't even smile because he knows everyone is and always will be inferior to (you)
>>58496587>>58496590That sounds hilarious.
Were there more Harry Potter crossovers with Galar?
ofc not
Are you part of Obsidian Stone Shaun? Can't write the real name without getting banned but I'm sure you know what I mean, what with being one of (them)
>>58498241what's obsidian stone?
>>58497653funny you say that
>>58498322black Stone I get banned everytime I write that name here
>>58498373Huh, really? Weird since Pokemon Oxford or Cambridge would've been an easy thing to make up.
Can forumchapters be good?
>>58499031>an entire forum chapterNo. Could be good for milking patreonbucks tho.
Work got me by the balls so I can't read threadbro's fic. Quite annoying I must say.
>>58499071Just plug it into ChatGPT and have AI summarize it for you bro
>>58499031imageboardchapters are kino however
>>58499031They're a guilty pleasure
Do Pokemon born from Dittos have souls? Should they have souls? Is the inbreeding very strong if it transforms into a copy of the Pokemon or if not, where is the Ditto getting new genes from? If Nidoking mates with a Ditto and it Transforms, is he gay for mating with a Nidoking that happens to have female parts?
>>58499319Ditto is a Pokémon so why not.Pokémon seem weirdly immune to genetic issues not matter how bizarre the pairing is and ditto's whole gimmick is being adaptable, it gets "new genes" by straight up transforming itself.No because the Ditto changes sex during mating to female, now if the ditto assumed a male form like another Nidoking it'd be gay as hell.
>>58499319>Do Pokemon born from Dittos have souls? Should they have souls?are you under the impression that ditto are soulless automatons or something
>>58499319>>58499350>implying Ditto transforms into a member of the opposite sexMale pokemon x Ditto is mpreg. I'll leave it to your imagination who's being mpregg'ed.
>>58499362>mpreg>when all Pokemon lay eggs
>>58499444Yes? Where do you think the eggs come from? Magically from the air?No anon, your Nidoking got mpregged and shat out an egg.
>>58499453>Magically from the air?could be, literally no one knows how eggs are made
>>58499454>anon gets isekai reincarnated>gets told at a young age that human babies are delivered by the Pelipper to mamas and papas>anon whole-heartedly believes it because a game NPC said something similarly bullshit
>>58499468>a game NPCProfessor Elm's word should be reliable
>>58499356Probably not. I should be thinking more about how ditto kids can be distinguished from normal pokemon because I like pointless weirdness and design choices. There were the baby nidoqueen in that mewtwo returns but those were clones. Unnatural but really fucking cute. I like that.
>>58499497Professor Elm was in the presence of a 10 year old child when he spoke those words. Johto's already overshadowed by Kanto enough as is, Elm didn't want to add to the disparity by setting up a controversy with a child.captcha: 4wang
They don't lie to children about pokemon laying eggs to protect their innocence. They do it to prevent and ecological crisis of every young trainer becoming a roving puppy mill.
>>58499319>gayGay is a human thing, for animals and pokemon its just fucking.
>>58499616The real ecological devastation in Paldea was not paradox pokemon, it was kids being able to breed pokemon freely without a daycare license.
>>58499616>The ancient celestican hero was an isekaijin>His knowledge of how eggs are really made lead him to mass-breeding pokemon for perfect IVs and Alpha genes>after nuking all of Celestica to fix that mess, Arceus censored knowledge of procreation from the human mind forever
>>58499616There is a ranger whose job is to go around the routes nearest to towns and cities and snap the necks of the infant Pokemons that get released by trainers. Or catch them in poke balls to turn their meat into feed for carnivores and their souls into fuel for ghosts.
>>58499518>>58499616>Fresh trainer walks into the daycare center as the old breeder VERY LOUDLY complains to his wife how sick he is of having to powerwash ropes of Rhydon semen off the side of the barn.
Does Leon exude an aura of retardation?
>>58500242I didn't play SS but I'm guessing Leon's a talkative enough idiot that you could justify this by saying he distracts and misdirects whoever he's with by constantly chattering and giving his own bad directions to them.
>>58500242Eh, Taxi driver? In my particular experience they tend to do their damn best to take the longest way to charge you more, it wouldn't help that Leon is a chatterbox with no sense of direction so, hey, I'd be taking that extra money too
>>58500242>Leon always wins because his presence actively causes his opponents to lose IQ pointsmy god
>>58499505Tbf Cloning is a thing some earth animals already do to reproduce.
>>58500242Descended from one of the ancient world's brightest minds btw
>>58499505Actually I like that kind of thing for all pokemon crossbreeds, not just ditto. I love breeding different species together to see what they make, and sadly pokemon has one of the least flexible versions of this compared to most other games. But something like Monster Rancher's fusions where every single monster type has a subbreed species for every other purebred monster type in the game is would be awesome. It kind of has a trade off since MR has a much smaller selection of purebred species, making the majority of its dex retextured mons with different stats. Still, I've always wanted to do something like that for pokemon. Kind of like those design memes that go around with a pokemon drawn with different types of father species.
>>58500242Palkia thought it would be mad funny
>>58501361Yeah, yeah, yeah, I fucking love the crossbreed stuff and fusion works. You get me. Stuff like height and sex to distinguish within a species is fine but more personal characteristics and variants makes the world of Pokemon a little more interesting to me. I hadn't thought about the different types of father species being a factor, so that's news to me; I was planning something with half-brothers in a Pokemon focused side plot and wanted the two mons to share a feature.
Stakes, give me a story with stakes
>>58501635Well done or rare? Nyuk nyuk.
>>58501659Made me chuckle
>>58501659wise guy huh?
>>58501659I like my Pokémon meat (because that's canon) well done
Overly verbose descriptions is a good way to know the story is AI, huh? That shit is getting everywhere nowadays
>>58501796I always worry that I'll get accused of that, but I've just always had way too fucking long of descriptions.
>>58501796and em dashes
>>58501893>I've always done that tooIt's not fucking fair
>>58501901AI have no rights you fucking robot
>>58501924I'm not a fucking clanker, damn it! I'm the template! These goddamn robots took MY flow, made it a slur!
>>58501935I fucking hate your kind, fucking Rotoms taking our jobs, you can't even cuck someone because they're already doing it
>>58501796I’ll actually ask AI to try to describe something, and usually there’ll be one phrasing in the paragraph long BS I’ll use in my actual description. I’m a description minimalist, and AI is so overly verbose that just plopping it into my story would be so jarring and obvious.
>>58501935robots will also take Pokemon jobs
>>58502177I can always just punch harder
>>58501901I've used those all the time too. Stay strong.
>>58502235they all have Filter ability
>>58501603It was an art trend a few years ago where people would design half a dozen or so different crossbreeds per pokemon. With a little searching you could probably find a lot more examples online. Though I have no idea where to look up art these days.
Updated my exteme edge quest. >>>/qst/6323469Contains cute girls who hide pokeballs in special places!
>>58501635Define stakes. Emotional stakes? Physical harm stakes? World-ending stakes? Vampire-ending stakes?
Ask me the dumbest Lore question you can think of.
>>58503146With villains and not retards
Pinnacle Platinum updated.[Happy News] Author seems to have found a job so now that their life has stabilized perhaps chapters will become more frequent again.
>>58500242>Does Leon exude an aura of retardation?Would explain why the M8 made everyone act so out of character and why they kept making so many retarded decisions.Would explain why Rose became so retarded too. Went from taking over a Region by being extremely business savvy to MUH CAN'T WAIT ONE DAY after 20 years of exposure to Leon.
>>58502406>tfw you finally get your totodile starter >it's a deepwater>whatever, a totodile is a totodile>evolve it and deepen your bond>finally achieve mega evolution>it turns into a coin counterhow mad would you be
>>58503819KekHaving a toliet gator spewing cancer fluid would be fucking horrifying. Revenge for all the shit he gets for his design. Forget a trainer battle, you need a fucking plumber to handle that mess.
>>58503154If vore existed as something that humans in the pokemon setting could perform how do you think that would effect society?
Are there any popular Johto fics out there? It feels like a criminally underrepresented region in fanfiction.
>>58504149Sorry, only being Kanto's side-piece is allowed.With the boldest and most of original of plots: Johto is oppressing poor widdle Kanto.And Team Rocket? *gasp* they're actually freedom fighters who want to make Kanto great again!
>>58504149Johto's gonna be the next arc's major focus in my fic after a brief detour to Kanto
>>58504624>Johto is oppressing poor widdle Kanto.Huh? The ones I've seen are always about how Johto are nothing but a bunch of savages and inferior to Kantocock in everything with Lance being the champion of both mostly for political reasons
>>58488213>If you were the one off character of the week in the anime, what kind of role would you take?I'd be that one no-name trainer who beats Ash's rival at the League before they could have their fated showdown, blueballing the audience.
>>58504624>our team motto is that pokemon are tools and belong to us>our anime iteration was founded by a megalomaniac cunt who only cares for wealth and abusing others>our lore is that we take candy from children and are responsible for the sudden eruption of a volcano that killed quadrillions>our leader's son despises him and the organization because of how cruel and cowardly we are>a legendary pokemon directly intervened with the timeline to ensure we did not make a comeback>in the only timeline where we succeed we are tyrannical multiversal empire>but we're totally freedom fighters guys we're down with the lgbt guys yasss #freekanto #justiceforgiovanni #blainedidnothingwrongkantokeks really
>>58504725>>but we're totally freedom fighters guys we're down with the lgbt guys yasss #freekanto #justiceforgiovanni #blainedidnothingwrongContext? Sounds hilarous
>>58504732Nta but I'm thinking it's a Rainbow Rocket joke.
>>58504746freedom fighters is from New Normal and another fic I can't remember, lgbt is cuz rainbow rainbowrocket and jessie x delia.
Festival of Kino updated recently
>>58501635Every pokemon game has hade stakes, just at different intensities. You have the low end, such as Gen 2's "the disbanded crime syndicate that tried to take over the region is attempting to make a comeback", and the high end, such as Gen 4's "depressed sociopath wants to enslave a god so he can rewrite reality". Bringing the stakes back DOWN in Gen 5 was absolutely necessary.
>>58504751>Spoiler mom ntr is such a kino trope
>>58504764>Mom NTRFor me, it's Mr. Mime NTR. As in, Mr. Mime being NTR'd.
>>58504752I hated it because the chapter ended with Clair slander.Being a Clairfag is suffering.
>>58505210>Being a Clairfag is suffering.Holy shit, you guys exist? I thought everyone hated her because she was mean to (You), it's been 25 years when will they let it go?
>>58505223>everyone hated her because she was mean to (You)Am I the only one here who didn't know or care back then? Gym leader dialogue went in one eye and out the other, all text was an obstacle cleared by mashing A.
>>58505223We exist, yes. I have always been a sucker for inferiority complex characters so I find her to be very cute. Plus, she's a raging dork.This https://x.com/wtib_ Japanese person who draws her a lot is my hero>it's been 25 years when will they let it go?Rather pathetic, isn't it? Says all there is to say about the Pokemon fanbase as a whole.
>>58505210Honestly debating having her in my WIP it’s Pofag btw. She’d pop up from an Ultra Wormhole and not remember anything, being a meek and pretty shy woman who’s genuinely scared of her Dragons. This humility would enable her to evolve her Dragonair finally. She might end up dating Guzma of all things, idk yet. Might not include her tho, got a lot going on in that arc.
>>58505288>Only way she could succeed is by losing her memory, getting a new personality and becoming pretty much an entirely different personThat sounds beyond depressing. Just another humiliation ritual.
>>58505315She’d get her memories back at a later point and have the confidence and bond back with her Dragonite to mega evolve it. This is If I end up doing this at all, it’s something I’m interested in but not sure I’ll have time for. I have more characters to humiliate after all.
>>58505288>>58505315I gotta agree with the other guy, that is a bonafide fucking humiliation ritual. Might as well mindwipe Clair and stick another OC in her brain at that point. Fucking retarded Japanese amnesia tropes are too total and perfect in their results. It is a really fun image of a Dragon type user being shy and really meek - big creature and small woman, you know; making it make sense is the tricky part.
>>58505330That's a bit better but the core issue remains. Bias aside, not a fan at all of the idea. Even in general. Wouldn't do something like that to any character.>I have more characters to humiliate after all.Better be someone who really deserves it this time.
Speaking of, what happens to the original character (as in from the world the Faller is now) when their Faller version arrives to the same world?Would they fuse if they ever meet like in that Jet Li movie where they absorb themselves?
>>58505348They just both exist there I guess. Maybe the faller version lives somewhere else and they ignore each other or maybe they stick together and play twins.I've always hated the time/dimension traveler fuses/explodes when meeting themself trope. Aside from not making any sense generally, it also just sort of sucks in terms of writing. There's really interesting stuff to be done with a displaced doppelganger, so why arbitrarily delete them at what should be a major crossroads in the story.
>>58505345>Better be someone who really deserves it this time.Yeah like Mr. Fuji
>>58505348>>58505437Reminder that when it comes to fictional concepts you can do whatever you want and that you don't have to follow pre-conceived rules to appease retards who bitch and moan about internal consistency across a multitude of separate works of literature. Time travel isn't real, dimensional travel isn't real, they do not have actual rational laws you must follow in order to be well-written.
>>58505841instructions unclear, my story's pokemon only know 4 moves because that's what it's like in the games and anime(usually)
>>58505345How far does the humiliation in general go in your stories? I'm interested.
>>58505330>I have more characters to humiliate after all.Based. Make them cry and piss themselves.
>>58501439Leon was BETRAYED and CURSED by both Dialga and Palkia to have no sense of direction and always be late to his destination from birth. This happened because of a prophecy that foretold Leon would be the man to bring Sinnoh to its knees, as well as mercilessly ravage it, which deeply angered its guardians. The 'Sinnoh' in the prophecy however was in reference to its Champion Cynthia, who Leon easily HUMILLIATED in battle and MINDBROKE with his BBC
I fucking KNEW it. This is the Watsonian reason why every single trainer doesn't have a full team in the games. Unless you're a full battle autist, you aren't going to go all out on catching pokemon.
>>58506953>catch ground pokemon, feed it dirt>catch electric pokemon, leech someone else's power>catch ghost pokemon, have it steal small amounts of lifeforce from passing pedestrians in a big city>catch fairy pokemon, provide sustenance with your BHC>catch flying pokemon, feed it airit's so easy
>>58506070>Piss themselvesOh yeah, literally did that for Hyde>>58505978I don’t intentionally humiliate my characters, but I do push them, and being humbled is a part of the process of how I write character arcs. Someone a couple threads back made a point of saying “character development isn’t just ‘a character’s stats go up’” and that’s a good way of putting it. But another thing I’ll do is I’ll take a core aspect of a character, and then just put them under pressure a shit ton BECAUSE of that specific thing. Take Hyde for example. He hates Unovans because he blames them for his brother’s death. From his PoV, some random stranger with a Unovan accent shows up and starts making friends with his squad, everyone seems to like him. But then this stranger gets a Sawsbuck blessed by Tapu Bulu and saves the town from starvation. Hyde still hates the stranger cuz he’s Unovan though, right? Hyde’s stubborn hatred of the guy gets himself hurt, and subsequently saved by the Unovan accented stranger. Does he still hate the stranger?
>>58505579You're a monster...
>>58506953So professional trainers are rich as fuck?
>>58506999To continue on with this, Ian’s identity and loyalty to Po Town is probably my best example of this though.So MC, you think Team Skull taking in Fallers is a just enough cause for you to stick around even though you’re often mistreated? Okay then. You’re going to meet the leader of a faction who’s smart, hot, wants your dick, and everyone will hold you in high regard if you join them. Still loyal to Po Town? Oh, you meet some scientist/trainer of questionable morality but he’ll also make you one of the strongest trainers on the planet in record time. Still loyal to Po Town? Oh wait, your boss basically forces you to admit something highly sensitive to you and is now actively starting shit with you because of that while this is all going down. Still loyal to Po Town? Oh, you meet a group that sees you’re on track to be the next Kahuna and is very well run. Even the mysterious group that’s been helping you out along the way wants you to join this specific group since it’ll be better for your overall growth. You still loyal to Po Town? Okay, you patched things up with Plumeria and have firmly committed to being in Po Town long term. You’ll then run into someone who was basically in your exact situation but is stupid strong already and is damn near treated like a princess because of it. Still loyal to Po Town? This is just where we’re at in the dtory so far. I’m not done testing my MC.
>>58506953just let your Pokemon rot in PC boxes dude
>>58507026Ackshually you shouldn't do that because they shrink instead of turning into data
>>58507015I ignored any time the text would go into more in depth (something about Clair?) Well shit, I can't read all of that for I do plan to read your story as blind as possible (Crazedfag here), but from what little I could, I suppose it's dragging their core character/strength/wound through intentionally rough arcs and see if the character in question will break or not. The racism and the loyalty thing seems like an interesting thing to do.I guess this Hyde will see a Unovan just being a good person and seeth trying to fit that image in his prejudiced head?Ian (I think mc? Prince?) and his loyalty towards Po Town is also a cool aspect, though I doubt could truly inflict tension itself, for the title alone makes it clear he'll stick with Po Town long term, although, since he (probably) becomes a big shot in that Town, it's his ties and the many characters that will be brought strain from his loyalty wavering. I think you're already doing that, sorry if that sounded partonizing.I also put my character through "humilation rituals" so to speak, so far this has been presented as him being a legitimate schizophrenic aside from the souls, being genuinely incompetent and even dying a few times (and painfully coming back).I can't exactly do what you're doing right now, (the core being put under pressure), because my mc himself has a supressed personality (which will unfortunately rear its ugly head as time goes on) and has six souls/voices rampaging in his head and even partially controlling him at times.Little bro just learns to cope with the suffering.
Suffering builds character
>>58506999>>58507015That's a fun way to do it. Humbling the proud and really dragging someone through the dirt to test their commitment can get brutal, so I get why people call your fic a humiliation ritual at times. I'm only on the second chapter right now, but I definitely want to see how high Ian can climb from how low he starts. It's not a hard rule or anything but a little guideline I try to give myself for character arcs is to gain something they need, they'll lose something they already had. The severity of that changes depending on the story or the character, but that can often mean a character of mine goes through a LOT of loss to become the person that can make it to the end of the story. And Kuzey has got a lot of growing to do...
>>58506984This is so retarded it might work.>>58507009Honestly. What are some ways a Trainer could make money besides battling?
>>58506984>every trainer has 6 pokemon via this method>population all soulless husks because so many ghost pokemon to feed>power shortges because so many electric pokemon to feed>birthrates plummet from feeding fairy types>left floating in space from using all the dirt to feed ground types>planets oxygen depleted from feeding flying typesIf you would just THINK for one goddamn minute
>>58507001mfw somebody suffers the consequences of being a fucking idiot
>>58507571This is all fixed by making a dedicated slave class of pokemon (and select humans) that serves both as an energy source via manual labor and a food source for people and pokemon
>>58507015Stopped reading partway through since I am only at the deser part of the story, but I am actually doing something pretty similar in Crystal Light.You refuse to kill, even as a knight who has a duty to protect the innocent? Oh, you think you just need to be train enough to subdue an opponent through non lethal means? You can rely on others to pick up the slack when you come up short? Would you let yourself be beaten and stabbed? Would you leave the fate of a villain in the hands of those they have wronged? Would you let an innocent die? Haw much are you willing to sacrifice for your ideals? At what point does mercy become negligence? How much blood are your ideals worth?
>>58507219>though I doubt could truly inflict tension itself, for the title alone makes it clear he'll stick with Po Town long term,Unless being loyal and respectful to Po Town/ Team Skull means leaving at some point... The story's built in the mold of Legends Arceus, so make of that what you will.>>58507522>gain something they need, they'll lose something they already hadThat's a great guideline. Looking back on how things have gone with PoPT so far, there's something that's spiritually adjacent in that every moment of accomplishment has a drawback. You caught a powerful alpha Pokemon? Great. She's going to try to murder you for weeks. Inversely, every terrible thing that happens comes with a hidden benefit. Also can't wait to read Kuzey hearing Aunt Vi's words echoing in his mind for his future battles, IMOanon.
>>58507230Haha, it sure does.
>>58507551Pimping their pokemon. Actually, I just realized this already exists in Galar's job system. I completely forgot that was a thing, but you pretty much rent your pokemon out for labor.
>>58507685The no-kill rule is such a mess in Pokémon, on one side you have retards that want to destroy the world over stupid reasons or because they didn't think things through, on the other trainers that will attack you directly with lethal force without a care if needed
>>58507686I suppose I presumed much regarding the title, perhaps a wandering 'Prince'? I like the premise.
>>58507769The MC is the only person in my story with a no kill rule, and every villain he has fought so far has mocked him for it while pointing out that they do not have a no kill rule. It's a personal thing for the MC. Part of why he is so respected among his fellow knights is that when he is around nobody every dies, though he is sort of oblivious to this since it's a 'chart of bullet holes on returning planes' situation to him. He never sees anybody die around his fellow knights without realizing that is because of the effort he puts in, though it does inspire those around him to work harder from his example. This is all never stated in the actual story though. Just a fun fact behind the scenes thing. I worry sometimes about readers thinking 'why is this self doubting weiner seen as the greatest knight in the land'. But his own internal struggles are invisible to those around him so all they see is a stoic knight show up, kick bandit and wild pokemon ass, and humbly leave without any fanfare. Now that I think about it it's hilariously similar to Komi can't Communicate.
>>58507769Reminder that the original plot of Ruby and Sapphire was to improve the coexistence of both humans and Pokemon>While in the original versions of Ruby and Sapphire Team Aqua saw a world with more seas as ideal for both Pokémon and humans, in Alpha Sapphire Team Aqua wishes to expand the sea to wipe out human civilization and return the world to its beginnings, so that Pokémon can live untainted by humanity's progress. This puts them in direct opposition to Team Magma, who in this version of the story wishes to put an end to the misguided ideal of coexistence and expand the land to give humanity more space on which to build and develop civilizations.
>>58507899Honestly makes it interesting that the well intentioned extremist versions of Archie and Maxie from gen 3 are the ones that are a part of Rainbow Rocket instead of the 'fuck it, genocide' remake versions.
>>58508067>well intentioned extremistAnd retarded
>>58508824No need to be redundant.
>>58507899>expand the land to give humanity more spaceI honest to God don't believe it. There's so much fucking land everywhere. Pallet town has like a population in the triple digits and is literally nothing but rural land large enough to comfortably house a Tauros herd.Slap down some roads and a couple commie blocks. You can comfortably house the 8 billion people on Earth in the deserted areas of Galar and Paldea.
>>58500242That's why Galar is Galar, yes.
>>58508932I honestly headcanon that their planet is way bigger than ours, like the One Piece or HxH world
>>58508975Tfw isekai'd too late to explore the unexplored wilds because the Pokemon world has already used planes and satellites to map everywhere.
>>58508975I'd believe it, there's a lot of intact wilderness despite the tech level, the culture around training and Pokémon helps preserve a lot of land and well, the wild Pokémon can make too much forceful expansion at once costly.
Do any violent/gory Gardevoir or Gallade artworks or fic exist? Trying to find some but coming short
